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Message started by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2019 at 7:57am

Title: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2019 at 7:57am

Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela.





Quote:

Venezuelan Expat On How Socialism Destroyed His Country, And How It Could Ruin The U.S.

By Frank Camp
August 15, 2019

In February, 20-year-old Venezuelan expat Daniel Di Martino penned an op-ed for USA Today, titled:

"Venezuela was my home, and socialism destroyed it. Slowly, it will destroy America, too."

On Wednesday, I spoke with Daniel about his experience living in socialist Venezuela, the corruption he witnessed, and the parallels he sees between his home country and progressive political ideology in the United States.....



DW: What was life in Venezuela like prior to leaving?

DI MARTINO: You don't see how different it is until you actually get out of the country.

I couldn't really lead what would be considered in the United States a normal life, especially because of crime and shortages.

I could not, for example, walk alone in the street without fear of being kidnapped, robbed, or murdered.

Caracas, where I lived, is actually the city with the highest murder rate in the world, and kidnappings were very common.

My aunt had been kidnapped already – and the worst part about the crime in Venezuela is that the police are actually a number one perpetrator of it.

They are criminals in the day or criminals at night, and then police the other times of the day.

My aunt had been kidnapped, and then when she was released and went to report it at the police station, one of the police officers that she saw in the station was one of the kidnappers.....


https://www.dailywire.com/news/50694/interview-venezuelan-expat-how-socialism-destroyed-frank-camp



Socialism is brilliant, and laudable, in theory.

But human nature ['the human condition'] always defeats it, in practice.




laudable = = deserving praise and commendation.



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Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.
- Winston Churchill


"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."
- Margaret Thatcher


"Socialism only works
In two places:
Heaven where they don't
Need it and hell where they already have it."
-Ronald Reagan


If you want more of something, subsidize it; if you want less of something, tax it.
- Ronald Reagan


'The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.'
-Ronald Reagan


'The taxpayer:
That's someone who works
For the federal government
But doesn't have to take the
Civil service examination.'
- Ronald Reagan


'Government is like a baby:
An alimentary canal with a
Big appetite at one end and
No sense of responsibility
At the other'
- Ronald Reagan


'The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a government program.'
- Ronald Reagan


'It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession.
I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first'
- Ronald Reagan




Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2019 at 8:06am


God is a capitalist.

I would argue, that proof of that fact is 'littered' throughout the OT bible, and is revealed even in many of the parables of Jesus.


n.b.
Jesus DID NOT say;

"Steal from the wealthy, and give to the poor."


Matthew 19:21
Jesus said........go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.




The God of scripture, does encourage us all, to be kind to the poor,         and to be generous to those who are worse off than ourselves.


But the Matthew 25:14 - 30 parable suggests, very directly, that God is not a socialist.

And the parables which Jesus told, suggest, that God does not hold with socialist ideals [which is in fact thievery, as a means 'to help the poor'].




Is God a capitalist ?

Matthew 25:24
......he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:



Do Jesus parables suggest that God is a capitalist ?

Matthew 21:33
Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
34  And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it......



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Proverbs 1:10
My son, if sinners entice thee, consent thou not.
11  If they say, Come with us, let us lay wait for blood, let us lurk privily for the innocent without cause:
12  Let us swallow them up alive as the grave; and whole, as those that go down into the pit:
13  We shall find all precious substance, we shall fill our houses with spoil:
14  Cast in thy lot among us; let us all have one purse:
15  My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path:
16  For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood.
17  Surely in vain the net is spread in the sight of any bird.
18  And they lay wait for their own blood; they lurk privily for their own lives.
19  So are the ways of every one that is greedy of gain; which taketh away the life of the owners thereof.



Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 16th, 2019 at 9:25am
Ignoring the Bible bashing BS, the problem in Venezuela isn't so much the actual socialism part its the fact that the people in power were incompetent idiots.


Incompetent idiotic capitalists will bring a country to its knees as quickly and effectively as incompetent idiotic socialists.

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by aquascoot on Aug 16th, 2019 at 10:47am

Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Ignoring the Bible bashing BS, the problem in Venezuela isn't so much the actual socialism part its the fact that the people in power were incompetent idiots.


Incompetent idiotic capitalists will bring a country to its knees as quickly and effectively as incompetent idiotic socialists.


Untrue.

Say even for something like a simple trade
Say being a plumber

A socialist country says all plumbers are equal

A capitalist country says some plumbers construct pipes that don't leak and those plumbers rise to the top of the plumbers hierarchy and they make more money and they live in a better house and they employ more apprentices.
These alpha plumbers have status in the community because they have shown that they are more competent

And that is the secret of the capitalist system

Let people go into whatever business they want
Whatever they are passionate about
And then let the community judge them on their competence
And let the community arrange them into a hierarchy

And that works for everyone in all Fields and allows the society to be as productive and to produce as much wealth as a society can produce

And then you can redistribute some of this if you wish

But the basic premise of a socialist society the we are all equal brothers in some constructed utopia is a load of rubbish
It has been tried many times
It produces no wealth
It is always a catastrophe

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Marla on Aug 16th, 2019 at 11:08am
Daily Wire

Where dipshit bigots go when they can't afford to watch Fox News

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2019 at 11:15am


I can't afford to watch Fox News.

I have to live within my means.

:)




Yadda,       ....the content, and happy.





Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Marla on Aug 16th, 2019 at 11:17am

Yadda wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 11:15am:


I can't afford to watch Fox News.

I have to live within my means.


That's what living on (socialist) welfare does to a person.

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2019 at 11:21am

aquascoot wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 10:47am:

Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Ignoring the Bible bashing BS, the problem in Venezuela isn't so much the actual socialism part its the fact that the people in power were incompetent idiots.


Incompetent idiotic capitalists will bring a country to its knees as quickly and effectively as incompetent idiotic socialists.


Untrue.

Say even for something like a simple trade
Say being a plumber

A socialist country says all plumbers are equal

A capitalist country says some plumbers construct pipes that don't leak and those plumbers rise to the top of the plumbers hierarchy and they make more money and they live in a better house and they employ more apprentices.
These alpha plumbers have status in the community because they have shown that they are more competent

And that is the secret of the capitalist system

Let people go into whatever business they want

Whatever they are passionate about.....



Passion.    ....aaaaah!




Yadda has a passion.

Yadda,     ...the passionate.      [wink]






Psalms 1:1
Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
2  But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.


....aaaaah!





Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Marla on Aug 16th, 2019 at 11:27am

Yadda wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 11:21am:
Psalms 1:1
Ignorant is the bigot that not readeth past the headline of a troll right-wing website nor looketh for a job, nor wipeeth the F A T ass in seat of the Trumptardful.
2  But his delight is in the trolling under the BRIDGE; and in his parent's basement he shitpost day and night.



True.

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2019 at 11:35am


".....there is no fear of God before his eyes...."



Psalms 36:1
<<To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David the servant of the LORD.>> The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.
2  For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.
3  The words of his mouth are iniquity and deceit: he hath left off to be wise, and to do good.
4  He deviseth mischief upon his bed; he setteth himself in a way that is not good; he abhorreth not evil.



True.




Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 16th, 2019 at 2:22pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 10:47am:

Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Ignoring the Bible bashing BS, the problem in Venezuela isn't so much the actual socialism part its the fact that the people in power were incompetent idiots.


Incompetent idiotic capitalists will bring a country to its knees as quickly and effectively as incompetent idiotic socialists.


Untrue.




Given your history. I therefore feel that you saying its untrue, means its actually true.

I.e. if you were to say to me the sun rises in the east, I'd ask for a 2nd opinion.

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by longweekend58 on Aug 16th, 2019 at 4:39pm
So basically there is just uber-capitalism and communism and nothing in between.

What are morons like Yadda unaware there are more colours than black and white?

Also, the idea that God is a capitalist is as offensive as it is astonishingly stupid.

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Yadda on Aug 16th, 2019 at 5:44pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 4:39pm:

So basically there is just uber-capitalism and communism and nothing in between.

What are morons like Yadda unaware there are more colours than black and white?

Also, the idea that God is a capitalist is as offensive as it is astonishingly stupid.





Andy Williams Sings "The Exodus Song (This Land Is Mine)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEYmomUuveU




Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Frank on Aug 16th, 2019 at 6:12pm
Socialists in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryJteQTPBlU

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D



Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 16th, 2019 at 6:13pm

Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 10:47am:

Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Ignoring the Bible bashing BS, the problem in Venezuela isn't so much the actual socialism part its the fact that the people in power were incompetent idiots.


Incompetent idiotic capitalists will bring a country to its knees as quickly and effectively as incompetent idiotic socialists.


Untrue.




Given your history. I therefore feel that you saying its untrue, means its actually true.

I.e. if you were to say to me the sun rises in the east, I'd ask for a 2nd opinion.


;D

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Marla on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:06am
Too many people driving in America on socialist tax paid roads.



Looks like America will be another Venezuela any day now.

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Frank on Aug 19th, 2019 at 6:19pm

aquascoot wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 10:47am:

Bojack Horseman wrote on Aug 16th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Ignoring the Bible bashing BS, the problem in Venezuela isn't so much the actual socialism part its the fact that the people in power were incompetent idiots.


Incompetent idiotic capitalists will bring a country to its knees as quickly and effectively as incompetent idiotic socialists.


Untrue.

Say even for something like a simple trade
Say being a plumber

A socialist country says all plumbers are equal

A capitalist country says some plumbers construct pipes that don't leak and those plumbers rise to the top of the plumbers hierarchy and they make more money and they live in a better house and they employ more apprentices.
These alpha plumbers have status in the community because they have shown that they are more competent

And that is the secret of the capitalist system

Let people go into whatever business they want
Whatever they are passionate about
And then let the community judge them on their competence
And let the community arrange them into a hierarchy

And that works for everyone in all Fields and allows the society to be as productive and to produce as much wealth as a society can produce

And then you can redistribute some of this if you wish

But the basic premise of a socialist society the we are all equal brothers in some constructed utopia is a load of rubbish
It has been tried many times
It produces no wealth
It is always a catastrophe



Just so.

Adam Smith called it the invisible hand that arranges private free enterprise into a great common wealth.

Socialism kills the individual (a reality) for an abstraction and ruins everything in the process.




Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Yadda on Sep 20th, 2019 at 10:14pm



Quote:

PRAGER: The Equation That Explains Evil

By Dennis Prager
September 14, 2019


GI - W = E

Good Intentions (GI) minus Wisdom (W) leads to Evil (E).




......Communism, the greatest mass murder ideology in history, was for almost all its rank-and-file supporters rooted in their desire to do good.
(This was rarely true for its leaders, whose greatest desire was power.)

The many millions of people all over the world who supported communism did not think they were supporting unprecedented levels of mass murder and torture or an equally unprecedented deprivation of the most fundamental human rights of a substantial percentage of humanity.

They thought they were moral, building a beautiful future for humanity — eliminating inequality, enabling people to work as hard or as little as they wanted, providing their fellow citizens "free" education and "free" health care.


......That's why leftists have such moral contempt for those who differ with them.

Because those on the Left are so good, only bad human beings could possibly oppose them.



https://www.dailywire.com/news/51764/prager-equation-explains-evil-dennis-prager



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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1565906239/0#0

Quote:

Socialism is brilliant, and laudable, in theory.

But human nature ['the human condition'] always defeats it, in practice.




laudable = = deserving praise and commendation.




PURE EVIL.



Political LEFTISTS = = almost always are people who act with good intentions.


Political LEFTISTS = = almost always are, conformists/popularists/social 'groupies'.
....they are never happier, than when they are at a protest,      ...all together.


populist = =
1 a member or adherent of a political party seeking to represent the interests of ordinary people.
2 a person who supports or seeks to appeal to the interests of ordinary people.



Conformists = = always refuse to take moral responsibility for the [bad] consequences of their choices.


Conformists = = persons who always exhibit little or no respect, for reason[ing] and truth.



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Jesus Christ, as a man, was a hated non-conformist of his day.

The people loved the healing, but they hated the rebukes, and they hated the truth about themselves.

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, which killest the prophets, and stonest them that are sent unto thee...."

And it was the conformists of his day, who called for his death, and who, in fact, caused Jesus to be murdered.


Mark 15:12
And Pilate answered and said again unto them, What will ye then that I shall do unto him whom ye call the King of the Jews?
13  And they cried out again, Crucify him.
14  Then Pilate said unto them, Why, what evil hath he done? And they cried out the more exceedingly, Crucify him.



The society of his day, sought to murder Jesus Christ, because, he was a social non-conformist.

If you are a person who hates truth [being spoken],      ...you hate God, the God of truth. [Deuteronomy 32:4   Psalms 31:5   Isaiah 65:16]

If you hate God, you are lost.


Revelation 22:11
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.


Psalms 31:5
Into thine hand I commit my spirit: thou hast redeemed me, O LORD God of truth.



It is all connected.


Truth, and the lies.


Isaiah 30:9
That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:
10  Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:




Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by longweekend58 on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:28pm

Marla wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:06am:
Too many people driving in America on socialist tax paid roads.



Looks like America will be another Venezuela any day now.


and let's not forget those SOCIALIST farmers who are subsidised up the wazoo.

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Abu on Sep 22nd, 2019 at 3:18am

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 21st, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Marla wrote on Aug 19th, 2019 at 3:06am:
Too many people driving in America on socialist tax paid roads.



Looks like America will be another Venezuela any day now.


and let's not forget those SOCIALIST farmers who are subsidised up the wazoo.


WE WILL MAKE AMERIKA GREAT AGAIN.

Title: Re: Expat, on how socialism destroyed Venezuela
Post by Marla on Sep 25th, 2019 at 7:29am

Yadda wrote on Sep 20th, 2019 at 10:14pm:
PURE EVIL.



You dumbass bigot

https://youtu.be/lN0HkA6APKk

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