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Title: The crucial difference in Left vs Right thinking Post by Auggie on Aug 11th, 2019 at 2:49pm
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Here is an interesting debate between a Progressive Michael Brooks vs a Conservative Sargon of Akkad. I found it yesterday and I feel it really outlines the crucial difference in how the Left aims to tackle political and social issues vs how the Right aims to tackle politics and social issues. First of all, Michael Brooks is correct in asserting that the Conservative's sole focus on 'ideas' is ahistorical and exists outside of any policy or historical considerations. Michael Brooks is also correct in suggesting that American foreign policy within specific historical contexts has contributed in part to a proliferation of extremism and massive wealth inequality in certain areas of the world. This is something which we have control over. He believes that if the West stopped supporting Saudi Arabia, this would delegitimise and reduce the spread of Wahhabhist ideology throughout the world, which is the driving factor behind much of the extremism and poverty in many parts of the world. The issue I have with Michael Brooks is that he was/is unwilling to discuss political and social issues outside of policy and historical considerations. In the view of the leftist, extrinsic factors such as policy and institutions affect human behaviour and shape economic and social conditions. It doesn't take into consideration individual agency or personal responsibility. However, Brooks does explain that focusing on policy and historical considerations is the best way to bring people together to deal with social and political issues, since a focus on individual agency and personal responsibility would alienate potential allies. Also, we have no control over individual agency or the personal choices that people make. |
Title: Re: The crucial difference in Left vs Right thinking Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 11th, 2019 at 10:45pm
No such thing - everyone is a mix of left and right thinking....
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Title: Re: The crucial difference in Left vs Right thinking Post by Setanta on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:13pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 10:45pm:
Don't you go doing that. Caesar Augustus is always right. He can modify our political system to make it all good. He is an angel sent by god to set us straight. |
Title: Re: The crucial difference in Left vs Right thinking Post by The_Barnacle on Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:58am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 10:45pm:
True, it's more of a spectrum. But you have to admit that many people cluster on the right and left ends of the spectrum. Especially in these days of social media alogarithms which report only the news that you want to see. |
Title: Re: The crucial difference in Left vs Right thinking Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 12th, 2019 at 12:23pm The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:58am:
True - I'm somewhere in the middle with variations - sometimes I support right ideas, sometimes left.... and often not absolutely - that's a spectrum. I think most are like that.. not fixed to one side or the other. |
Title: Re: The crucial difference in Left vs Right thinking Post by Auggie on Aug 12th, 2019 at 9:27pm Setanta wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 11:13pm:
Then, you should shut the bugger up and listen to what I say. |
Title: Re: The crucial difference in Left vs Right thinking Post by Setanta on Aug 13th, 2019 at 2:10pm Auggie wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 9:27pm:
:'( |
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