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Message started by Yadda on Jul 21st, 2019 at 12:36pm

Title: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Yadda on Jul 21st, 2019 at 12:36pm

Australians are going to experience 70C summers, DRUM guest.




I didn't catch this episode of the DRUM, but apparently, a guest on ABC, DRUM, said she is expecting Australians are going to experience 70C summers.
....or is that just for remote farmers ?


That's global warming!



WWW search....
australia will be "70 degree" de-stocking,  DRUM, ABC



https://mobile.twitter.com/ABCthedrum/status/1152147697815568384/photo/1

Quote:

Barbara Masel
@BarbaraMasel
     Jul 19

Replying to @ABCthedrum @ellenmfanning @AnikaMolesworth

@AnikaMolesworth had a refreshing perspective.

We need more like her to speak up about what the #ClimateEmergency is doing to our agricultural sector.

View conversation




???




Elon, any room on your colony expedition to Mars ?



Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:38pm
Actually -

"Jackie
@jaquix173
·
19 Jul
Replying to
@ABCthedrum
and
@AnikaMolesworth
Has had 70 degree temps and is de-stocking remaining small flock of African sheep and goats,  because of the conditions.  Didn't seem to have any anger towards inert Coalition govt.  Can't work that out."

And yet according to BoM Australia's hottest temperature is Oodnadatta at 50.7C or 51.1C if you want to believe ACORN2.

Has had - past tense.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Bobby. on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:50pm
The only time it will get to 70C is inside a car on a hot day.

Global warming alarmists continue their nonsense.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by .JaSin. on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:30pm
Stephen Donaldson brought it up in the 70s to 80s via his 'Thomas Covenant' novels...

Extreme erratic weather of far hotter seasons and days and far colder seasons and days too. One day it can be 55C hot and the next a cold front comes in to make it -10C in London. Winds will increase in speed, quantity and reach. More Cyclones and Hurricanes to the point that with so many Tornado's being consistent - nobody lives in tornado alley, USA.

The Biorythms of the World are like that of a person about to die: erratic and extreme.
Like a world whose heart is racing in Fear.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Bobby. on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:40pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:30pm:
Stephen Donaldson brought it up in the 70s to 80s via his 'Thomas Covenant' novels...

Extreme erratic weather of far hotter seasons and days and far colder seasons and days too. One day it can be 55C hot and the next a cold front comes in to make it -10C in London. Winds will increase in speed, quantity and reach. More Cyclones and Hurricanes to the point that with so many Tornado's being consistent - nobody lives in tornado alley, USA.

The Biorythms of the World are like that of a person about to die: erratic and extreme.
Like a world whose heart is racing in Fear.





Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by xeej on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:30pm:
Stephen Donaldson brought it up in the 70s to 80s via his 'Thomas Covenant' novels...

Extreme erratic weather of far hotter seasons and days and far colder seasons and days too. One day it can be 55C hot and the next a cold front comes in to make it -10C in London. Winds will increase in speed, quantity and reach. More Cyclones and Hurricanes to the point that with so many Tornado's being consistent - nobody lives in tornado alley, USA.

The Biorythms of the World are like that of a person about to die: erratic and extreme.
Like a world whose heart is racing in Fear.

We have a tiny window, I fear we are done for.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:49pm

Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm:
We have a tiny window, I fear we are done for.


I am glad you only have a small window.

I'm not sure on JaSin's mental peregrinations, but suspect he is describing the novels.

According to CO2 theory the differences between day and night temperatures will reduce. This will have the effect of reducing wind speeds. This will cause less cyclones.

But I am sure you can find a paper to confirm your theory.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by .JaSin. on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:10pm
The first sentence referring to the novels was only about the novels.

There will be no 'lop-sided' colder OR warmer - we are passing through the 'eye of the needle' and where the sands of an hourglass pass through the narrowest of passages... like a 'birth canal'.

The planet of Prehistoric Earth had an atmosphere x3 as thick with oxygen that could both support the huge growths of the Dinosaurs and their weight. The sky was always 'hazy' in the atmosphere and the Equator had a constant temperature of 30C and the poles had 10C (hence the fossil forests in Antarctica). Since then, our atmosphere has moved away, down through time, from that 'Stability' of constant perfect. To the now very 'fragile' weather patterns of extreme and erratic behaviours of today.

...the World is dying and Humanity is this World's last chance to send 'Life' (it's DNA) out into Space to 'fertilise' other worlds. If we fail. Life on this planet has only 1.3 million years to 'evolve' a species that can. For the Star Gleise will side-swipe into our Solar System as near as the Kuiper Belt inside the Orrt Cloud region and its immense GRAVITATIONAL pull will disrupt the Solar System to disastrous effect. Earth will be thrown from its current orbit.
Life will die here.


Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Holdfast on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:38pm
Cool  :(

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Baronvonrort on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:50pm:
The only time it will get to 70C is inside a car on a hot day.

Global warming alarmists continue their nonsense.


Where does the global warming religion get this nonsense from the temperature has only increased by 0.4 deg C with their data.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:42pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:10pm:
Since then, our atmosphere has moved away, down through time, from that 'Stability' of constant perfect.


A stable climate? ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by xeej on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:44pm

lee wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:49pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm:
We have a tiny window, I fear we are done for.


I am glad you only have a small window.

I'm not sure on JaSin's mental peregrinations, but suspect he is describing the novels.

According to CO2 theory the differences between day and night temperatures will reduce. This will have the effect of reducing wind speeds. This will cause less cyclones.

But I am sure you can find a paper to confirm your theory.

Wouldn't that create catastrophes in their own right?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:53pm

Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:44pm:
Wouldn't that create catastrophes in their own right?



Which ones would they be? A climate stasis?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Yadda on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:54pm



WWW search....
does the Earth have a self-correcting environment


Gaia hypothesis.



Edge of Darkness (TV Mini-Series 1985) - IMDb


e.g.
If the atmosphere warms, could the Earths environment, in response, produce more white clouds in the skies above the earth,
which could reflect the sun's heat back into space ?




My theory; There are way too many pesky humans on this planet.     +7 billion.

Maybe Gaia will facilitate a reduction in the human population ?

The bible [God] suggests lots [many millions] of people will die, in the end time.

Maybe God is in league with Gaia proponents ?          :)









bobby said it first.       :)




Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Bobby. on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:02pm

Quote:
e.g.
If the atmosphere warms, could the Earths environment, in response, produce more white clouds in the skies above the earth,
which could reflect the sun's heat back into space ?



There are many closed loop feedback systems
in our climate.
New ones are being discovered all the time.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:04pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:10pm:
The planet of Prehistoric Earth had an atmosphere x3 as thick with oxygen that could both support the huge growths of the Dinosaurs and their weight.



And 5 times the CO2 and no runaway global warming.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by xeej on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:08pm

lee wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:53pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:44pm:
Wouldn't that create catastrophes in their own right?



Which ones would they be? A climate stasis?

If we upset the equilibrium sh1t will happen, we are doomed.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:14pm

Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:08pm:
If we upset the equilibrium sh1t will happen, we are doomed.



Is that the equilibrium from when dinosaurs roamed the earth, the equilibrium of the Roman Warm Period, the equilibrium of the Medieval Warm Period, the equilibrium of the LIA, or the current equilibrium?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by xeej on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:30pm

lee wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:14pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:08pm:
If we upset the equilibrium sh1t will happen, we are doomed.



Is that the equilibrium from when dinosaurs roamed the earth, the equilibrium of the Roman Warm Period, the equilibrium of the Medieval Warm Period, the equilibrium of the LIA, or the current equilibrium?

The equilibrium since the beginning of the industrial age.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:08am
Oh, I see. Australia is going to be the place to set a world record for daytime temperature.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 11:04am

Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:30pm:
The equilibrium since the beginning of the industrial age.


Given all those other "equilibria", what makes you think the climate was in a state of equilibrium before the industrial age? The end of the LIA was just before the industrial age.

And that's without the true Ice Ages. ;)

Can you define the sh1t that will happen?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 11:22am
1 person writes 70C on twitter, and now its the whole GW community thinking we'll get 70 degree summers?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by xeej on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:37pm

lee wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 11:04am:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:30pm:
The equilibrium since the beginning of the industrial age.


Given all those other "equilibria", what makes you think the climate was in a state of equilibrium before the industrial age? The end of the LIA was just before the industrial age.

And that's without the true Ice Ages. ;)

Can you define the sh1t that will happen?

Even if you don't believe the industrial era has upset the finely balanced equilibria the mass extinction of all species from insects to everything and the killing of our oceans will cause runaway effects from all angles.

The sh!t that will happen is the human race will either choke to death or we will cook.
1374251891649.jpg (64 KB | 14 )

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:47pm
Lovely graph. From where does it come?

Ice core data? The ice core data doesn't have the required resolution.Now plant stmata does and contradicts the ice core data. ;)


Johnnie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:37pm:
Even if you don't believe the industrial era has upset the finely balanced equilibria the mass extinction of all species from insects to everything and the killing of our oceans will cause runaway effects from all angles.



Oh dear. Another believer in the 6th Mass Extinction Event. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Have a look at the ie ages. And tell us all how you came to the conclusion that the earth is or ever was in "equilibrium". That is earth has a steady state climate. ;D ;D ;D ;D


Johnnie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 2:37pm:
The sh!t that will happen is the human race will either choke to death or we will cook.


Seeing as the humans have not really progressed evolutionary wise, it seems more likely they will simply die out.

But please show us any evidence of your statement.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 3:44pm
And tell us all how you came to the conclusion that the earth is or ever was in "equilibrium". That is earth has a steady state climate. Grin Grin Grin Grin





Never studied chemical equilibria then?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 3:53pm
According to the World Meteorological Organization (WMO), the highest registered air temperature on Earth was 56.7 °C (134.1 °F) in Furnace Creek Ranch, California, located in the Death Valley desert in the United States, on July 10, 1913.

Lying tart!

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 3:55pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 3:44pm:
Never studied chemical equilibria then?


A vastly different proposition. This is climate. Replete with Ice Ages and Warm periods. And everything in between.

But if you can show a nexus between chemical equilibria and climate equilibria - go for it.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:00pm

lee wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 3:55pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 3:44pm:
Never studied chemical equilibria then?


A vastly different proposition. This is climate. Replete with Ice Ages and Warm periods. And everything in between.

But if you can show a nexus between chemical equilibria and climate equilibria - go for it.



If you view the climate as a buffer system, it works. The system adjusts to small changes. Thereby accounting for warming and cooling phases, an input changes the climate changes.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by BigP on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:07pm

lee wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:10pm:
The planet of Prehistoric Earth had an atmosphere x3 as thick with oxygen that could both support the huge growths of the Dinosaurs and their weight.



And 5 times the CO2 and no runaway global warming.



And because of   the co2, vegetation was more prolific, this is what allowed the Dino's to grow. not the oxy ..

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by xeej on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:15pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 3:44pm:
And tell us all how you came to the conclusion that the earth is or ever was in "equilibrium". That is earth has a steady state climate. Grin Grin Grin Grin





Never studied chemical equilibria then?

Chemical equilibria can only be achieved with diversity of species, wiping out species by the thousands every year can only be detrimental.

The Earth can cope and keep equilibrium over long time periods, my V8 is helping to kill this planet.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:21pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:00pm:
The system adjusts to small changes. Thereby accounting for warming and cooling phases, an input changes the climate changes.


So you think Ice Ages are only "small changes"? ::)

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by xeej on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:35pm

lee wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:21pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:00pm:
The system adjusts to small changes. Thereby accounting for warming and cooling phases, an input changes the climate changes.


So you think Ice Ages are only "small changes"? ::)

They were over thousands of years.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:36pm

Johnnie wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 4:35pm:
They were over thousands of years.



Link?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 7:13pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 11:22am:
1 person writes 70C on twitter, and now its the whole GW community thinking we'll get 70 degree summers?


I could believe 53C summer record temperatures. I could even believe the possibility that my town could get to 47C. But there is no way that I could see any place in Australia that could get 55C or more. So, you would not see 70C in Australia, or anywhere on the planet.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by xeej on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:15pm
Its already near 70° out there in the blistering sun, the temperature is taken in the shade, white man cannot survive out there, unless he knows a few tricks.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by John Smith on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:19pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 7:13pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 11:22am:
1 person writes 70C on twitter, and now its the whole GW community thinking we'll get 70 degree summers?


I could believe 53C summer record temperatures. I could even believe the possibility that my town could get to 47C. But there is no way that I could see any place in Australia that could get 55C or more. So, you would not see 70C in Australia, or anywhere on the planet.




https://www.pedestrian.tv/sport/australian-open-court-temperature-69-degrees/


Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:49pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/sport/australian-open-court-temperature-69-degrees/



You do understand the difference between temperature readings taken in Stevenson Screens, how it's done for official temperatures and those taken in direct sun; don't you? You don"t? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by John Smith on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:56pm

lee wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/sport/australian-open-court-temperature-69-degrees/



You do understand the difference between temperature readings taken in Stevenson Screens, how it's done for official temperatures and those taken in direct sun; don't you? You don"t? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


are you saying the temps in the link i provided didn't reach 69?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 9:16pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:56pm:
are you saying the temps in the link i provided didn't reach 69?


no petal. I am saying they were taken in direct sunlight. Your story tells how it was scheduled to reach 39.

"The mercury in the city at the time of writing is sitting at an eye-watering 39.0 degrees, with the forecast calling for a testicle-stewing 42 on Friday."

;)

edit: "The hottest days were on the 6th, 18th and 19th, with Laverton RAAF recording Greater Melbourne's hottest temperature for the month of 43.1 °C on the 6th"

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/vic/archive/201801.melbourne.shtml

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 23rd, 2019 at 9:24am
Hahaha.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 23rd, 2019 at 12:45pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:56pm:

lee wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/sport/australian-open-court-temperature-69-degrees/



You do understand the difference between temperature readings taken in Stevenson Screens, how it's done for official temperatures and those taken in direct sun; don't you? You don"t? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


are you saying the temps in the link i provided didn't reach 69?


The court might well have reached 69 degrees. But the temperature in the shade reached 39 degree, according to the article. No player should have played in those temperatures. They should have cranked the air conditioning, open air or not.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by The_Barnacle on Jul 24th, 2019 at 11:46am

lee wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:49pm:
[
According to CO2 theory the differences between day and night temperatures will reduce. This will have the effect of reducing wind speeds. This will cause less cyclones.

But I am sure you can find a paper to confirm your theory.


I'm more interested in whether you can find a paper linking day/night temperature differences to frequency of cyclones.
That's quite a bizarre link you are trying to make  ;D

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 24th, 2019 at 1:08pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 24th, 2019 at 11:46am:
I'm more interested in whether you can find a paper linking day/night temperature differences to frequency of cyclones.


Poorly written.

All separate sentences ducky. Try thinking about it as a whole. The differences between cooler temperatures and warmer temperatures overall.

"Climate change is likely to affect tropical cyclone behaviour in two ways. First, the formation of tropical cyclones most readily occurs when there are very warm conditions at the ocean surface and when the vertical temperature gradient through the atmosphere is strong. As the climate continues to warm, the difference between the temperature near the surface of the Earth and the temperature higher up in the atmosphere, is likely to decrease as the atmosphere continues to warm. As this vertical gradient weakens, it is likely that fewer tropical cyclones will form (DeMaria et al. 2001; IPCC 2012). "

https://www.climatecouncil.org.au/uploads/3cf983377b8043ff1ecf15709eebf298.pdf

That I agree with. The second part -

"Second, the increasing temperature of the surface ocean affects the intensity of cyclones (along with changes in upper atmosphere conditions), both in terms of maximum wind speeds and in the intensity of rainfall that occurs in association with the cyclone. This is because the storms draw energy from the surface waters of the ocean, and as more heat (energy) is stored in these upper waters, the cyclones have a larger source of energy on which to draw (Emanuel 2000; Wing et al. 2007). In summary, it is likely that fewer tropical cyclones will form as the climate warms, but a higher fraction of those that do will be intense, more damaging cyclones."

- Not so much.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by The_Barnacle on Jul 24th, 2019 at 10:09pm

lee wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:49pm:
According to CO2 theory the differences between day and night temperatures will reduce. This will have the effect of reducing wind speeds. This will cause less cyclones.



lee wrote on Jul 24th, 2019 at 1:08pm:
Poorly written.

All separate sentences ducky. Try thinking about it as a whole. The differences between cooler temperatures and warmer temperatures overall.


Nice try lee but you can't weasel your way out of this one
You linked all the sentences
You've been caught once again posting BS

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 24th, 2019 at 11:25pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 24th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
You've been caught once again posting BS


perhaps you can point out where less wind will cause more cyclones.

Anything? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by .JaSin. on Jul 24th, 2019 at 11:53pm
Most of Winter in my region has been very cold when dark but 80% of the days have been like Spring.

PNG is going to charge the U.N. $$$ for Providing Fresh Air under the 'Air Conditioning' Act. Western Scientists think they can come up with a better solution than Forests and Trees.  ;D

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by John Smith on Jul 25th, 2019 at 6:41pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 23rd, 2019 at 12:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:56pm:

lee wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
https://www.pedestrian.tv/sport/australian-open-court-temperature-69-degrees/



You do understand the difference between temperature readings taken in Stevenson Screens, how it's done for official temperatures and those taken in direct sun; don't you? You don"t? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


are you saying the temps in the link i provided didn't reach 69?


The court might well have reached 69 degrees. But the temperature in the shade reached 39 degree, according to the article. No player should have played in those temperatures. They should have cranked the air conditioning, open air or not.



Irrelevant. i was just proving this statement wrong ....

'But there is no way that I could see any place in Australia that could get 55C or more'.


Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Frank on Jul 25th, 2019 at 7:10pm

Yadda wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 12:36pm:

Australians are going to experience 70C summers, DRUM guest.



I heard 75C. Anyone heard 80C?

75C once.....

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 25th, 2019 at 7:14pm

John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 6:41pm:
Irrelevant. i was just proving this statement wrong ....

'But there is no way that I could see any place in Australia that could get 55C or more'.



You mean you think people are as obtuse as you and don't know direct sunlight is hotter than shaded temperature? ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by The_Barnacle on Jul 26th, 2019 at 3:42pm

lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 7:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 6:41pm:
Irrelevant. i was just proving this statement wrong ....

'But there is no way that I could see any place in Australia that could get 55C or more'.



You mean you think people are as obtuse as you and don't know direct sunlight is hotter than shaded temperature? ;D ;D ;D


It would seem that lee just got a taste of his own medicine  ;D ;D ;D

love it

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 26th, 2019 at 5:15pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 3:42pm:
It would seem that lee just got a taste of his own medicine 


Poor poor Barney. One of those, apparently, that doesn't know about direct sunlight and how and why official temperatures are taken. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

But nice of you to show my response to JS. It makes it seem as if you misinterpreted who was posting. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by .JaSin. on Jul 26th, 2019 at 9:23pm
Lake Eyre gets to 55C easy.
Iran has reached 75C.


Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 26th, 2019 at 9:53pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 9:23pm:
Lake Eyre gets to 55C easy.



Is there a Stevenson Screen there?


Jasin wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 9:23pm:
Iran has reached 75C.


Strange that.

I see one reference for 129F or about 54C


And one from 2 years before claiming to be the record at 165F or 74C.

Wiki records it at the former.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Jul 27th, 2019 at 12:21pm
BTW - had a look at that 74C claim. it seems it was a composite temperature.

"Bandar Mahshahr clocked an air temperature of 46°C (115°F) and a dewpoint temperature of 32°C (90°F), creating a heat index of 165°F. A dewpoint temperature is an indication of the level of humidity."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/destinations/middle-east/iran/articles/Bandar-Mahshahr-in-Iran-experiences-second-hottest-temperature-ever/

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by chimera on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:55am
When it all melts the water will increase its area . This reflects sunlight and raises water vapour in the atmosphere, lowering the heating rates. Australia's population on the Alpine islands  (previously kown as "ski resorts") will watch the surf height dropping as the Andes mountains , the only block in the southern ocean, emerge in the global cooling. Soon they will plough the rich soils in Sydney Harbour and Port Phillip as Antarctica reaches 15km thick ice.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:35am

Jasin wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 9:23pm:
Lake Eyre gets to 55C easy.
Iran has reached 75C.


I think something like 57 or 58C is the highest temperature ever recorded on this planet.

Do you have a reference for the 75C?


Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by chimera on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:45am
Seems about right.
Enrichment processes require uranium to be in a gaseous form at relatively low temperature, hence uranium oxide from the mine is converted to uranium hexafluoride in a preliminary process, at a separate conversion plant.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Ajax on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:19pm
Worried about manmade CO2....!!

What about CERN and HARP....??

Should we be worried about them...!?!?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1563081274

Do I hear 81°C going once going twice

somebody give me 81°C

one degree now just one degree more

You folks are slower than Keating peaking at Stott Despojia open blouse...!

One degree now...come on...!


Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by chimera on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:30pm
HAARP could have major and even disastrous consequences. Concerned HAARP researchers present evidence suggesting that these disturbances can even cause tsunamis and earthquakes. Climbers at Uluru are especially at risk .

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by AaronCRescue on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:31pm
Winter is COLD
Summer is HOT
Autumn is clean up leaves time
Spring is flowers

ENJOY LIFE while you have it.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by John Smith on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:36pm

lee wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 7:14pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 25th, 2019 at 6:41pm:
Irrelevant. i was just proving this statement wrong ....

'But there is no way that I could see any place in Australia that could get 55C or more'.



You mean you think people are as obtuse as you and don't know direct sunlight is hotter than shaded temperature? ;D ;D ;D



so now you're saying that there is a way? ::)

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Aug 7th, 2019 at 6:23pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 5:36pm:
so now you're saying that there is a way?



To tell the difference between shaded and direct sun temperatures; yes petal, you use thermometers. Marvellous things thermometers. But unshaded ones are only used for unofficial temperatures. And no one uses them for proof of climate or hot temperatures. ;)

Did it really take two weeks to think that up? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by John Smith on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:32pm

lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 6:23pm:
yes petal,



so you lied when you said there was no way. Turns out there is a way :D :D

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by John Smith on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:33pm

lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 6:23pm:
Did it really take two weeks to think that up?



only saw your comment today dopey

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:38pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
so you lied when you said there was no way.


John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
lee wrote Today at 4:23pm:
yes petal,

ooh truncated sentence. That's a no no petal. ;)


When I said there was "no way"? Do you have a link or were you referring to UnSubRocky's post? ;)

And you don't understand official temperature records? I would keep that quiet if I sere you. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Bobby. on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:41pm

Jasin wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 9:23pm:
Lake Eyre gets to 55C easy.
Iran has reached 75C.



75C - is fake news.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:43pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:33pm:
only saw your comment today dopey



Slow internet? Slow intellect? Slow something else?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Aussie Battler on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:43pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 9:23pm:
Lake Eyre gets to 55C easy.
Iran has reached 75C.



75C - is fake news.


Did Dubyne tell you that, Bobby?

Jayzus!

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by Bobby. on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:45pm

Aussie Battler wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 9:23pm:
Lake Eyre gets to 55C easy.
Iran has reached 75C.



75C - is fake news.


Did Dubyne tell you that, Bobby?

Jayzus!



Who are you? - is it Monk or Aussie?

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:45pm:
Who are you? - is it Monk or Aussie?


I think someone with less of a clue than either put together. Maybe a John Smith sock. ;)

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by chimera on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:30pm
The principle of cooking meals from the sun was developed in the French Foreign Legion, in the 1870s.

Solar cooking products are typically designed to achieve temperatures of 65 °C  to 400 °C on a sunny day, slightly less at night.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by John Smith on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:58pm

lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
That's a no no petal



no it's not. If you don't like it, you can keep crying


lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
When I said there was "no way"?


I didn't say you said it ... you did however defend the claim. Did you really defend it because you thought it was false?


lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
And you don't understand official temperature records?


what part of 'no way' do you struggle with?


lee wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 7:43pm:
Slow internet? Slow intellect? Slow something else?


you're just not that interesting.  I'll get to you when i get to you.

Title: Re: Australians are going to experience 70C summers
Post by lee on Aug 7th, 2019 at 9:46pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
no it's not. If you don't like it, you can keep crying



yes it is petal.


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John Smith wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
what part of 'no way' do you struggle with?



What part of OFFICIAL temperatures do you struggle with? ;)

You are just a numpty with delusions of adequacy.

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