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Title: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:05am
Soon the 'Ban' of climbing Uluru and camping 'anywhere' around the Rock will come into place.
Aboriginals are fed up with campers leaving rubbish around (just like around Everest) and climbing Uluru to justify a pleasant experience in their boring white lives. Let alone pay for another boring Australian Tourism experience that is usually over-priced. Aboriginals Win. No more 'walkies' for the Whiteys. Uluru |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:55am
Not worth the climb imo. Boring as batshyte.
The whole "outback" scenery does my head in. Maybe worked out there to much. Happily hand it back to Mabo. Notice they didn't close off the day trippers at Ayers rock. I know.....To much money made from them hey? I'll have the ocean any day. Black fella never good a swimming......a lot better at drowning. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Valkie on Jul 15th, 2019 at 7:50am
Its a rock.
Not somewhere I would spend good money to have a look at if I couldn't climb it to have a look around. Looks like the money that the abbos make from all the tourist will start to dry up, and then they will simply beg for more. Next they wil tell us that the great barrier reef is a sacred spot, used for a mellinia for fishing and gathering tribal food. Too bad they have never had the ability to ever actually get to it. Turds |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:53am Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:05am:
Where do the Aboriginals p1ss and sh1t when they spend a few hours climbing Ayers Rock - the 5-6 a year who actually do climb The Rock every year, of course... one of their whines was a classic inversion - they reckoned that tourists pissed in the water holes on the rock, just like farmers used to complain about Koons pissing in the creeks ::) ::) - I ask again - where do the Koons piss on the Rock? Time for a total moratorium on all claims. They've had decades to make claims - now it's becoming an accelerating thing as they realise that they only have to demand and threaten and scream 'racism' and some idiot will hand it to them without a moment's thought for anyone else. Lock the Gates! Tell 'em to go to buggary... As for your above:- a. Where do the Koons leave their rubbish on the rock? Where do THEY sh1t and p1ss on the day long walk? b. What are the Koons doing climbing OUR rock unless it is to have a pleasant experience in their otherwise boring lives? They've never held a single 'religious' experience there... and just because it's there and a great sight to see doesn't make is particularly 'religious' in context or content. c. Who is receiving all this lovely money for the tourists climbing OUR Rock, and for now being restricted to visiting the bottom of it and offering a kid to the dingoes? What utter nonsense. What idiot came up with the idea of handing it over totally to the Koons? Or any other national treasure for that matter? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:09am Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:55am:
They attract a lot of crocs on their Indeed - no way they'd cut off the cash flow from running trips... just another Abobusiness on taxpayer funds and most will still pull their 'rent money' .... BTW - what are they going to do with the rubbish then? I reckon tourists should just black-ban the place and let 'em starve.. better to fly over anyway... a flyover company would make a fortune... |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Captain Nemo on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:51am
People are also banned from climbing the Pyramids aren't they?
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:54am Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:51am:
Never heard of that....... maybe so..... have no desire to climb them or visit their country... the pyramids are man-made structures so some 'ownership' could be attributed - a Rock is a natural object and a national - repeat .. NATIONAL treasure.... not someone's personal backyard on land not purchased ..... |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:30pm Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:05am:
That's the biggest contradiction of the lot. Here's how they treat their own communities. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:34pm
No rubbish to be seen here.
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:35pm
House wrecked and all the beds & furniture outside
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 15th, 2019 at 1:37pm Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:51am:
Do you find people stop talking and stare at you when you make comments like that in public? 🤯 Freak!!! |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Captain Nemo on Jul 15th, 2019 at 1:43pm Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 1:37pm:
Both made of stone. Both sacred sites. [media width=640]https://youtu.be/QYHxGBH6o4M[/media] :D |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by PZ547 on Jul 15th, 2019 at 1:49pm
If the Chinese had moved in instead of whites, there wouldn't be an aboriginal left
and there'd be glass walkways up and down Ayre's Rock in addition to glass lifts running up and down and within it |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 1:54pm Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:51am:
Mount Rushmore too. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 2:01pm Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:35pm:
Just doing things their way - sleeping under the stars..... |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by PZ547 on Jul 15th, 2019 at 2:09pm
it all went completely to pot when they lifted the prohibition on serving alcohol to indigenous
which was the intention, maybe |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 2:11pm There are koalas on The Rock. Who knew? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by barryfromthebush on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:23pm Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:05am:
HAHA is this a joke? the boongs leave more poo lying around than your average curry in an Indian city. Go and look at any of the crappy little communities and you will change your tune about these degenerates quick smart. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by barryfromthebush on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:24pm Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:35pm:
This is normal behavior from these primates. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by barryfromthebush on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:25pm
Is Jasin a boong?
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:26pm
The abos will soon be whinging when the tourist dollar dries up. Then they'll backtrack.
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:02pm
Arrrr - Pauline is on the case:-
https://au.news.yahoo.com/pauline-hanson-slams-impending-uluru-closure-023711901.html?utm_source=Campaign_Monitor&utm_medium=Edm&utm_campaign=DailySnap_Newsletter&utm_term=DailySnap_Newsletter&ncid=dailysnapshotau_dailysnaps_yaptekbs7gs "Senator Pauline Hanson has continued her campaign against the closure of Uluru to the public, claiming imminent restrictions to the tourist spot similar to shutting down Bondi Beach. Appearing on Nine’s The Today Show on Monday morning, the One Nation leader told host Deb Knight the upcoming closure of Uluru, formerly known as Ayers Rock, will prove devastating for the Indigenous area’s economy. “The fact is, it’s money-making. It’s giving jobs to indigenous communities, and you’ve got thousands of tourists who go there every year and want to climb the rock,” she said. “It employs over 400 people there, 38 per cent are Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders.” Uluru, considered a sacred and holy place by traditional landowners, will close permanently to the public in October. The impending closure has sparked a wave of tourists to the site, desperate to climb the rock before it gets shut off. But Ms Hanson argued Uluru should be enjoyed by all, whether it be Australians or tourists visiting form overseas, allowing the area to capitalise on its popularity and repay the taxpayer for the government’s investment in the area in recent years. “It is an iconic site for all Australians,” she said. “I can’t see the cultural sensitivity when people have been climbing the rock for all these years, and all of a sudden they want to shut it down? “I don’t get it, I really don’t get it.” Ms Hanson has previously called on Minister for Indigenous Australians Ken Wyatt to reconsider the closure, suggesting it will “cripple” tourist areas such as Alice Springs. And the politician was particularly vocal over the contribution fears for climbers’ safety at the site made towards the decision to restrict access. “It’s no different to coming out and saying, ‘We’re going to close down Bondi Beach because there are some people that have drowned’. How ridiculous is that?” There have been 35 recorded deaths at Uluru, while many others have been injured while embarking on the climb. Radio personality Steve Price, who also appeared on the Today Show agreed with Ms Hanson, saying the Indigenous population need to understand utilising the rock would bring much needed finances to the area. “If it’s well managed... I don’t have an issue with it. We need to sit down with them and explain this could be a positive for them,” he said. Backlash over lack of Indigenous voice Following the debate, there was significant backlash online about The Today Show’s choice of guests to discuss the matter, with a lack of an Indigenous voice concerning to many. “How about you get an Indigenous persons perspective on this?” one person asked on Twitter. “This show should get a gold Logie for ‘whitesplaining’” another said." 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) Apres nous la deluge! |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by freediver on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:54pm
Come to think of it, I have not seen a single aboriginal explain the need for the closure. But I have seen plenty of non-Aboriginals explain the need to respect their religious beliefs by banning white people.
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Valkie on Jul 15th, 2019 at 6:21pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:54am:
Actually, I think I heard something about that. But it wasn't for religious or cultural reasons, it was because people were falling off the damn things and hurting themselves. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Valkie on Jul 15th, 2019 at 6:36pm Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
Ya beat me to it. Every aboriginal settlement or aboriginal house I have seen (except for a few exceptions, very few exceptions) look like dumps. They are in fact generally filthily creatures. Many years ago in Sydney, the house next door to my parents came up for rent. A couple of abbos moved in, and at first were nice and quiet, even quite easy to speak to. Then the extended family arrived. over the next week, Fights broke out, doors were ripped off the fittings, windows broken. Dad called the fire brigade when they set the lounge room on fire (Dads house was a semi detached cottage next door) When the fire brigade arrived they tried to put out the open fire in the middle of the lounge room floor (a wooden floor mind you) But they were set upon by several drunk abbos. Then the cops arrived, and so did I when dad rang me and told me about the problem. A 78 year old man and his wife should not be subjected to that shite. When the cops arrived the abbos jumped the fence and tried to escape through dads house, pushing him out of the way and causing him to fall, lucky for them with no injury to him. Then they spotted me standing in the doorway with my Sai, they did a quick about turn and ran back into the cops arms. Fire out the house was deserted with all the abbos carted away. The next day, the lovely Greek gentleman who owned the house came to survey the damage. He was dreadfully upset, he worked hard to make it a nice house and the rent was his pension. He repaired the house, but he wanted no more abbos. But its illegal to stipulate that in a rental situation, so he only rented privately. Abbos respect nothing, because they get everything for nothing. If you don't work for something, you don't value it as much. If Ayres rock could have been burned, it would no longer be. If they could have destroyed it, it would be destroyed. They committed Genocide to the first Australians, but this is not mentioned. We need to cut the apron strings. Get them off the tit Kick them out of the nest so that they either survive or fade into insignificance to where they belong. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:05pm Valkie wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 6:21pm:
Slippery slope these pyramid schemes........ 8-) On news tonight they repeated the '35 people have died climbing Ayers Rock' - which figure I've debunked previously as being a single digit percentage of the annual rate of death... if 'tourists pissing in the water holes' was as well founded as that one, along with 'leaving rubbish'....... nothing happened. Extremism demands that you always look at an extreme - for example, if one wishes to discuss domestic violence and the reality that countless people can be 'legally' sanctioned by a court for doing no wrong - the extremist will point to the one broken arm and black eye as the norm, and the shorten logic will be applied, in that it if one broken arm or black eye can be prevented, it is better to persecute 10,000 innocents under a false application of law. Same here - in the sense that exaggeration of small issues is carried out as a matter of course.... and a couple of chocolate wrappers becomes a pile of rubbish.... the water holes are polluted but only by visitors etc, and the 'spiritual' aspect of it is held only by a tiny group of the self-interested, and has nothing to do with the uplifting experience of any who walk The Rock. I say tell 'em to go to buggary. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:12pm freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:54pm:
What would QANTAS think if Israel Folau said that? 8-) (a simple 'touche`, sir' would be nice....) |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Captain Nemo on Jul 19th, 2019 at 10:03am
[media width=640]https://youtu.be/6gi1q_gUPwc[/media]
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 19th, 2019 at 10:20am freediver wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:54pm:
I did a quick Google search, and this came up straight away: "The traditional owners of Uluru ask you to respect our law and culture by not climbing Uluru. "We Anangu have a responsibility to teach and safeguard visitors to our land. The climb can be dangerous. Too many people have died while attempting to climb Uluru. Many others have been injured while climbing. "We feel great sadness when a person dies or is hurt on our land. We worry about you and we worry about your family. Our traditional law teaches us the proper way to behave." |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 19th, 2019 at 10:30am Ayers Rock, if you don't mind. Call it by the proper name. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 19th, 2019 at 10:32am Captain Nemo wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 10:03am:
That's very good :) Love Sammy. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:25pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 10:20am:
Well written by a white person ... an arse covering exercise for WH&S so they can't be sued. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:36pm Gnads wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:25pm:
No. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:41pm
Ignoring everything else whats the actual point of climbing it versus say walking up stairs.
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:42pm
How do you know?
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:46pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:41pm:
I would say that the only reason people are climbing it now, is to deliberately upset people. Pretty sad. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:46pm:
Apparently less than 20 per cent of visitors to Uluru actually do it. And they have had incidents of people playing golf, doing it nude etc. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:25pm
Yes. Why climb it?
I climbed the Himalaya's (6800m) and I was embarressed by all the 'rubbish' in the Everest valley and around Everest Base Camp (lots more around the bases of many Mountains). Did you see that clip a few months back of how 12 climbers died in one period where there was a few hundred metres of a line-up near the summit packed with climbers waiting for their 15mins of sumit fame? Pretty sad really. With people dying and freaks doing nude climbs - I kinda don't blame the 'Protectors of the Land' (cuz Whitey don't) wanting to stop the stupidity. From above. Uluru (not that boring Christianised name) is shaped like a human heart and now it has an ugly trodden path 'scar' upon it. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 19th, 2019 at 7:36pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:48pm:
Wow - that's some serious sh1t..... |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 19th, 2019 at 7:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 10:20am:
A far lower rate than in the general community.... |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 19th, 2019 at 7:48pm
Uluru is the upturned tip of a 26km long underground former 'river' that became hard over time with its sediment.
The Olga's are the same. It's the Head of the Snake (Rainbow Serpent). ;) ;D ...maybe its a fossilised head of a giant Sand Worm from the Dune novels. We could do with a 'House Atreides' to rid us of these USA Harkonnens and British 'Imperials' along with the International C.H.O.A.M corporations who now own most of our best Beers for starters. ::) |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Murry Cuncher on Jul 20th, 2019 at 8:22pm Jasin wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 7:48pm:
Cool book is Dune. I wants me one of those suits you can pee and poop in which turns it into drinking water. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 20th, 2019 at 8:26pm
They are making the Remake of Dune.
But this time they are taking it book by book for each movie rather than try and cram it all in with just one movie. Apparently they are aiming it as something that takes the next step after where Game of Thrones finished. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Murry Cuncher on Jul 20th, 2019 at 8:31pm Jasin wrote on Jul 20th, 2019 at 8:26pm:
The original was a pretty good stoner movie though. After wandering around Video Easy for an hour and not finding anything, I'd just grab Dune, again, then grab a kebab and go rub one out on my extra large bean bag. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 20th, 2019 at 11:16pm
Strong opener, Murry. I'll be keeping my eye on you.
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:48am Jasin wrote on Jul 19th, 2019 at 6:25pm:
Shaped like a diseased heart more like it. You're probably a Hindmarsh Island believer that it looks like a womens pubic area from the air(which it does not) .... secret womens business ey? As if they would have known way back what it looked like from the air. ::) And Ayres Rock has more natural lines across it than scars from walking tracks. ::) |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:54am Murry Cuncher wrote on Jul 20th, 2019 at 8:31pm:
Jerking off to Dune ey? You should eat cheesels instead of kebab ..... puts a different colour on things ;D :P |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by mothra on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:28am Gnads wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:48am:
That's not what the secret women's business is about. I'm not in the least surprised that you are sadly misinformed. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Holdfast on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:26pm
Uluru, Ayres Rock, call it what you will, is just big protrusion of sandstone.
The rock and the universe is utterly indifferent about which animal species climb it, or doesn't climb it. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:33pm mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:28am:
Wasn't that found to be a big load of crap Mothra? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:39pm
Gnads is exactly right-
wiki- That the island was regarded as a fertility site, as its shape and that of the surrounding wetlands resembled female reproductive anatomy when viewed from the air. It was also suggested that the Ngarrindjeri name for the island, Kumarangk, was similar to the word for pregnancy, or woman.[16] Like Gnads was eluding to- I didn't know abos could fly. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by mothra on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:48pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:33pm:
Ultimately no. But they still built the bridge. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:52pm mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:48pm:
Yes it was. Even many of the local aboriginal women backed away from the claims. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by mothra on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:52pm:
No Hammer. Upon a second trial, the story was deemed not to be fabricated And not many, a few. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:00pm mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm:
So explain to me how aboriginal women said the island looks like a pussy from the air? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by mothra on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:05pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:00pm:
That wasn't cited as the reason it was of significance, more confirmation to the Ngarrindjeri that indeed the island represents what they believed it did. You are aware that land formations hold specific mythology? Well, in this case, the fact that they felt the island looked like a women's reproductive parts just confirmed what they felt it was all about. It wasn't a reason ... it was corroboration. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:09pm mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:05pm:
rubbish. look it up. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by mothra on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:10pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:09pm:
i was there. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Valkie on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:13pm
What a crock of shite.
It's a damn rock. But the primitives see an opportunity to be both assholes and get some extra cash, so they will kick up a stink about everything and anything to get noticed. Simply put They are predominantly lazy, worthless bludgers. Predisposed to addiction Lost and pathetic, they see no future for their race and culture because they have nothing to give. But take.....this is their forte. Hands out begging and demanding every opportunity They see the land as a commodity to be sold for drugs and alcohol so they can immerse themselves in a world where the truth can be forgotten The truth.....they have no relevance, are worthless and are doomed to fade into insignificance. Just like the Tasmanian abbos, what is left of them? Nothing, they are gone and have left nothing behind. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Aussie on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:25pm Valkie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:13pm:
It matters not to me whatever you toss at the indigenous mob. One thing you cannot avoid.....we invaded their Land, and destroyed their culture (almost.) |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by mothra on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:28pm Valkie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:13pm:
Just the other day you said you were Gypsy. I wonder if you're as comfortable with the stereotypes they suffer persecution from as you are with negative stereotypes for other people. Because i really could say something like ... well, begging has more class than stealing ... but i'm not an arsehole. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:35pm mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:10pm:
I believe that. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Valkie on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:36pm mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:28pm:
I am a Gypsy It's part of what I am, who I am. But I do not let this define me. I am an Australian first I work in an honest job and have been honest all my life. I have never begged, and I give of myself to others who need it willingly. Everyone has the opportunity to be more than what they are borne onto. But some are simply lazy, pathetic dead beats. My family were poor, but honest. I worked hard and succeeded in life. Too bad our aboriginal friends can't be bothered to get use the opportunities afforded them. I wish I had had as many. They are defined by what the do, or don't do. Not by the colour of their skin or the place they were born. And what they do is beg, steal, waste and demand. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by mothra on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:40pm Valkie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:36pm:
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 21st, 2019 at 4:38pm mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:10pm:
Crock..... |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Aussie on Jul 21st, 2019 at 5:56pm
Were you there Grappler? If so, can you exclude Mothra being there?
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm
Sadly Gnads you are a tad lacking in knowing that a lot of Aboriginal Art was done from the viewpoint of 'the sky' looking down as many works were 'Maps' and as they were 'artistic' they were not exacted as if illustrated by a survey team from the current era. In fact, with all their FARMING areas of fertile abundance (even areas where Whiteys considered them 'deserts' long ago - but the Colonialists got a lot of things 'wrong' for centuries) - they made the entire continent a living 'Artwork'.
...whitey can only come up with an Bridge and Opera house thanks to foreigners mostly in high positions. One doesn't need to be Aboriginal to consider Uluru (a far unique sounding name unlike Ayers Rock ::)) something sacred or of importance for those 'born' here. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm:
::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm:
You're just ignorant Grapps. Go read the book Dark Emu. Or are you scared that Aboriginals are going to steal your soul and you'll become less Australian? ;D |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm Aussie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 5:56pm:
Nah - no need to be there to see it's a crock.. and I never said Mothra wasn't there... Secret Women's Business entered the Australian lexicion almost as much as 'Not Happy, Jan!' did... A very nice little advertising line, but hardly factual... As for Ayers Rock - one off, all off! Can't have even a few locals making tracks on OUR rock and pissing in the waterholes and leaving rubbish and dying there, can we? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:45pm Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Is there a Light Emu to balance it - or is it just another spun propaganda line? 'fertile land farmed that the white men saw as deserts' - come on Jas - you can do better than that.... ::) "One doesn't need to be Aboriginal to consider Uluru (a far unique sounding name unlike Ayers Rock ::)) something sacred or of importance for those 'born' here." You got that right.... I'm certain those who claimed it found it to be an uplifting, even 'religious' experience... same as Mount Warning... it's just the way of things.... and colour of skin makes no difference ... |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Aussie on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:03pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Then Brendon Nelson and everyone better get out of the inner parts of the Canberra War Memorial to which the plebs have no access. One out, all out. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:18pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:45pm:
The 'Dark' Emu is in referrence to the 'dark' regions of the Milky Way galaxy that appears like that of an out-stretched Emu, much in the exactness of Stars and their 'images'. I think you need to read the Book Graps before you go further. If not, you will be shot as a Heretic ;D Considering the Whiteys had to 'steal' their food from Aboriginal Grain 'Mounds' (tons!) as 'Explorers'... ...now you know how the original Europeans (NEANDERTHALS) were out-done by the 'darky' Sapiens from way down from the 'dark' Continent. :D |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:34pm
https://streamable.com/sx7bo
That Dark Emu sounds like fun to read.... I am by profession a heretic and an iconoclast... my job, as a famous artist once said to me about art, is to make people think... sort of the Court Jester.... Hey, hey - my my Rock and LOL will never die..... |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 21st, 2019 at 10:48pm |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 9:12am mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 9:28am:
That was one of the reasons given when the initial complaints went in to stop a bridge being built. And if you're such a knowall how about you extrapolate or provide a link to show my misinformation? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 9:14am mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 2:53pm:
It was.... it was schemed up by white SJWs. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 9:17am mothra wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:10pm:
Figures ... you helped the fabrication.... after the fact. I've looked .... it doesn't look anything like what has been suggested. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 9:23am Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:24pm:
I was born here Noddy. And Aboriginals didn't make maps. they drew story lines. And using the sky/stars has nothing to do with being able to see what something looks like from an aerial perspective. Don't tell me.... Aboriginals flew on giant flying marsupials? ;D And I didn't say they couldn't or don't consider a geographical location sacred. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 9:30am Jasin wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 8:44pm:
That book(re: the milkyway) doesn't make Aboriginals aerial cartographers. It's making up convenient history ... every day. ::) And Bruce Pascoe the author.... ;D ;D the King of making it up. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Valkie on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 5:45pm Aussie wrote on Jul 21st, 2019 at 3:25pm:
Like it or not Only the strong survive, the most advanced will always win. The fact that they were too primitive to fight effectively to hold their land, does not give them any rights to that land. It's the way of the world Every race on the planet has been "invaded" at some stage in their history. Your race will only survive by one of three ways 1) Strong and advanced enough to fight off invaders 2) Intellegent enough to assimilate and become part of the superior culture 3) strong enough genes to take over your invaders genes and out breed them. Abbos were too primitive to fight off an advanced race Abbos are too stupid to assimilate and benefit from being part of an advanced race. Abbo genes are recessive, that means that in time they will cease to be as they all mix and die out. They are a defeated, dying and obsolete race. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 6:52pm Gnads wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 9:23am:
Ok. Now you're lacking a substantial 'viewpoint'. Read the Book and then come back to me. ::) |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 7:01pm Gnads wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 9:30am:
Bruce Pascoe didn't make it up. He has just correlated into Book - what was already provided by Settlers and Explorers way back in the day via documentation and drawings that were swept under the carpet and 'changed' by the Media like a USSR propaganda (1984 'word crime') machine of lies. Thankfully many examples of the true history and examples of the 'changed' history still survive and provide a basis for both the Book Dark Emu and the Gammage Book 'Greatest Real Estate on Earth'. I feel 'enriched' that my fellow 'Black' Australians - were more than just primitive monkeys who could only bang two sticks together. Just like I'm proud of my Yellow Australians who are far different to the Asian ones and our Red Rangas who are also different to the North American ones. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 8:48pm Jasin wrote on Jul 22nd, 2019 at 7:01pm:
It's called 'spin' - and as any writer knows (surely) the epitome of fiction is to take a small reality and turn it into a big story... so:- - a fish trap become 'fish farming and harvesting' - a small plot of spuds becomes 'agriculture' - an exhilarating experience climbing Ayers Rock becomes 'a religious observance' - a 'feeling' that it might well be, and washing down the creek during period times or having babies near a water course becomes 'secret women's business'.... .. and so on forever, according to feeling and sudden realisation.. As Bill Guarnere from Band of Brothers said to a Dutchman - Freedom is something you don't know until you lose it... .. similarly, feeling an affinity with the lend is something you don't realise until you lose it... and then it becomes a universal truth somehow... The list is endless - but is long outdated by reality... HELLO! |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 26th, 2019 at 6:28pm
Here's a good link.
"Time they see how we see it." https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-22/uluru-climb-closure-chance-to-learn-rom-traditional-owners/11335086 True. If Uluru was in Africa - the 'whiteys' would have to just tough it. But in Australia - its like Whiteys can shove anything black aside. If it wasn't for Aboriginals - many early whites would have starved to death, for starters. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Valkie on Jul 27th, 2019 at 7:58am Jasin wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 6:28pm:
Yeah, mainly because the abbos were so primitive, there was no crops to steal, no cattle to take and no stores to rob. Besides, they soon stopped eating abbos, they were too tough and gristly. And.....I might add The abbos were too stupid to let them starve. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 27th, 2019 at 8:22am Jasin wrote on Jul 26th, 2019 at 6:28pm:
That's rubbish & you know it ... and over $33 billion dollars a year says otherwise. Everything touristy today has an Aboriginal/ local first peoples slant ... regarding recognition .... even if it's bullshyte. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 27th, 2019 at 8:29am Valkie wrote on Jul 27th, 2019 at 7:58am:
As I have stated before I watched a documentary filmed & narrated by Broken Hill artist Jack Absolom .... he was talking to an Aboriginal elder about his ancestors/connection to country & what it was like for him when young .... one of the statements was how good they had it way back then -(quote) "white man came and took all our 'orses an cattle". ;D ;D ;D First off the elder wasn't old enough to remember pre-white man days ......... so 2. where did the horses and cattle come from? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 27th, 2019 at 2:11pm
Terra Nullius, innit.... vacant of all climbing....
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 27th, 2019 at 6:01pm
When you deride a fellow Australian as a 'dero' - you deride yourself. It's a double-edged sword, it always cuts both ways.
And like I said. They had crops, tons of stores and they didn't have to make fences, spray chemicals, dig the soil up to keep it airated and more. Looks like you guys are falling behind the times. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by xeej on Jul 27th, 2019 at 6:42pm
The Abbos certainly had it easy, why would they have wanted to change anything, they had no entertainment though, nothing, they all went to sleep at sunset.
They needed alcohol and other drugs 50,000yrs ago to push some limits. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Trashy_Pierre on Jul 28th, 2019 at 9:12am Johnnie wrote on Jul 27th, 2019 at 6:42pm:
They ate bugs live, inhaled smoke, set everything they could on fire, painted themselves, and threw bent sticks at each other for entertainment. What else could you want? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Valkie on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:21am Jasin wrote on Jul 27th, 2019 at 6:01pm:
Crops? Of what pray tell. They were nomadic, wandering pre-stoneage primitives. They had no idea how to farm or maintain crops. Absolutely ZERO evidence of this at all. Were not even advanced enough to lash a rock to a stick. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Abu on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:50am Valkie wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:21am:
Ah yes, but they invented a stick, Matty. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by capitosinora on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:51am Jasin wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:05am:
It is disgusting to watch how uncivilised British Yobo convict invaders treat Aussie Aboriginal people. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by capitosinora on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:54am Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:50am:
Better to invent a stick then British genocide. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:55am capitosinora wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:51am:
Don't watch it then. Sit on your big fat black ass chewing down greasy cheese burgers while getting brainwashed by CNN like you usually do? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Abu on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:58am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:55am:
Exactly. Don't watch your country diluting its pure blood with the inferior subspecies. Just open wide and say ah. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 28th, 2019 at 12:03pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:58am:
Africa doesn't do it. have a go at them princess? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by capitosinora on Jul 28th, 2019 at 12:10pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:55am:
Your yobo convict British racism and antisemitism won't help you to become civilised. :D ;D 8-) |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 28th, 2019 at 12:11pm capitosinora wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 12:10pm:
Did a British person bugger your wife or something? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Valkie on Jul 28th, 2019 at 1:06pm capitosinora wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:54am:
Abbos committed genocide well before the British arrived. Perhaps it's just karma catching up. The Australian abbos are the single most primitive race on earth. Can't even lash a stick to a rock. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 28th, 2019 at 2:43pm capitosinora wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:54am:
Ahh - but most of the 'slavery', genocide acts were mostly done in Queensland. The state that mostly reflects 'North American' ways, more than British. As for 'evidence' that the Aboriginals were more than just Hunters/Gatherers/Nomads. Well its all coming out now thanks to 'Colonial' White Documentations. ;D They only went 'Walkabout' when looking for a 'mate' to keep the gene-pool variation ticking along. In reality - they stuck to their territories which all worked together in one of the best examples of Democracy. Afterall - they never went 'Nomad' around the world, but stayed here on their Island Continent. The 'old myths' are dying and the Truth is emerging. Can see how 'threatened' Westerners are here - because it will show that their 'Political' existence here is nothing more than the ability to make Babies like Barnaby Joyce does, while the Aboriginal gets the Gold Dollar $ for spotting the White Whale first. ;D |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by rhino on Jul 28th, 2019 at 4:14pm capitosinora wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 12:10pm:
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 30th, 2019 at 9:51am
Rock of Rages......
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Abu on Jul 30th, 2019 at 11:33am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 12:03pm:
Good point, Homo. They only get Ayrabs and Curries - even more useless than the Jiggaboos. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 30th, 2019 at 6:06pm capitosinora wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 11:54am:
Is that the same sort of genocide that white so called Americans used on the native Indian tribes all over their entire country? You really should STFU you hypocrite. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 30th, 2019 at 6:08pm Jasin wrote on Jul 27th, 2019 at 6:01pm:
You really are deluded. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 30th, 2019 at 6:11pm Jasin wrote on Jul 28th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
You're a tosser. That's complete bs. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 30th, 2019 at 8:31pm Gnads wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 6:08pm:
Don't shoot the messenger. It's all there in Colonial Reports from Settlers and Explorers. ;D ;D ;D You really are ignorant. ;) |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 30th, 2019 at 8:33pm Gnads wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 6:11pm:
Nope. It was actually highlight on this Forum ages ago. All the 'Stats' and even a graph. You're being an ignorant over-achiever again. ;D |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 30th, 2019 at 10:20pm
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https://starwarsintrocreator.kassellabs.io/#!/BLl1noE8_9h89S7VD089 |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by rhino on Jul 30th, 2019 at 10:25pm Jasin wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by xeej on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:26am
I can't stand Ayers rock, the flies are insane there, the little black bastards get up your nose and in your ears, and I don't like the dingoes and other black mongrel dogs walking around camp with blood dripping from their jaws.
I prefer wave rock but there are a lot black bastards and mongrel dogs around there as well. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:38am
Ayers rock?
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by xeej on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:41am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:38am:
Yes that in Aboriginal language means 'many little black bastards' |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Bojack Horseman on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:44am Johnnie wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:41am:
Charming. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by xeej on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:48am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:44am:
I hate flies. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2019 at 8:32am Jasin wrote on Jul 30th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
Yeah well I suggest you practise what you preach .. this link shows that massacres occurred all over the country .... and it doesn't indicate QLD led the way. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_of_Indigenous_Australians Included in that are Aboriginal on Aboriginal massacres. On the map below if it is to be believed it clearly indicates that the most massacres occurred in the southern states of NSW, Victoria & Tasmania. NSW has about the same number of sites as QLD. ::) |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Gnads on Jul 31st, 2019 at 8:36am
The map above also didn't list any massacres that occurred in Western Australia .....
and there were some. https://www.australianfrontierconflicts.com.au/some-known-frontier-conflicts-in-western-australia/ |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Abu on Jul 31st, 2019 at 11:01am Johnnie wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:26am:
Any Whites? |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 31st, 2019 at 2:33pm
They've been using Ayers Rock to massacre people now?
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Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Laugh till you cry on Jul 31st, 2019 at 2:36pm Johnnie wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 7:26am:
The best rock for xeej is a box of rocks to match xeej's intellect. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Fuzzball on Jul 31st, 2019 at 3:53pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 2:36pm:
Which would still far outmatch yours Sammy-bo...... |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Laugh till you cry on Jul 31st, 2019 at 3:58pm Fuzzball wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 3:53pm:
xeej has called on Fuzzball to the rescue. I concur that xeej's box of rocks is unmatched. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by xeej on Jul 31st, 2019 at 4:26pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 2:36pm:
If you were smart you would keep your nose clean son. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by .JaSin. on Jul 31st, 2019 at 5:38pm
That's the one Gnad's and I think you may have been the original Poster. The comment of QLD being the 'most' was brought up (by you back then? :-? ironically).
Mind you - the early Penal Colony was a harmonious affair for ages. It wasn't until some Free Settler Greenkeeper (Americanised Colonialist? Because they could do it to the Indians in Namerica) shot some Aboriginal that things just went stupid everywhere. Until then - the British/Aboriginal relationship was a good one. QLD is much like USA, like California is full of Aussies. Regardless. I think you should go do some updated research. The truth is out there. But it's easy to degrade a people as 'barbarians, savages, nomads, etc' (like even the Romans did and lots of others) because it devoids a people's right of existence and its easy to take lands off people and call it VACANT LAND. The Americans did it and I'm sure the Americanised Australians did it too. Rhodes did it in Zimbabwe and the British (not Boers) tried to do it in South Africa - but like in other parts of Africa, it those efforts kind of fell away due mainly to a 'numbers' thing. |
Title: Re: Uluru - the Rock Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 1st, 2019 at 12:00pm Jasin wrote on Jul 31st, 2019 at 5:38pm:
Yeah - those Zimbabweans have made such a civilised job of it once they got rid of the Kaffir-Haters..... the Oppressors.... place is roaring with trade and a-flood with cash and the good life for all.... Zud Afrique is going the same way... never been so profitable since they got rid of the Apartheidist government ... crime is down, everyone is richer.... |
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