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Title: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gordon on Jul 10th, 2019 at 4:26pm
Two brothers, mother arrested over allegedly keeping woman in slavery
Australian Federal Police have arrested two brothers and their mother for their alleged role in keeping an Afghani woman, who was married to one of the men, as a slave in Sydney's west. A 39-year-old man, his 28-year-old brother and their 58-year-old mother were arrested at a home in Merrylands on Wednesday. It is alleged the trio played a role in forcing the woman into domestic servitude. The investigation prompted authorities to reopen another referral relating to historic allegations of slavery against the 39-year-old man, who was married to the Afghani woman, and his previous wife about six years ago. Wednesday's arrests are the culmination of an investigation launched in March last year, after the Afghani woman contacted authorities in February. Advertisement Police will allege the woman was deceived by her husband and his family into travelling to Afghanistan on a one-way ticket in January last year, while her husband allegedly returned to Australia a few days later without her. She had recently returned to Sydney after travelling to Afghanistan with her husband . After the woman contacted police, Australian Federal Police and Australian Border Force officers conducted a search on a property in Merrylands, where they seizing personal items belonging to the woman and almost $89,000 in cash. The 39-year-old man and his mother have both been charged with possessing a slave and maintaining excessive powers of ownership over a slave. The 28-year-old man has been charged with exercising powers of ownership over a slave. While the charges laid on Wednesday relate to the 39-year-old's current wife, it is understood the investigation into the man resulted in the reopening of a 2013 referral relating to allegations of domestic servitude involving the 39-year-old man’s first wife. All three are scheduled to appear before Sydney Central Local Court on Wednesday. Federal police acting Commander of National Response Operations Chris Goldsmid said the investigation was a reminder that "modern slavery exists in Australia". He said law enforcement continued to work to protect victims of slavery, adding that both alleged female victims linked to Wednesday's arrest have been supported under the Australian government’s Support for Trafficked People Program. https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/two-brothers-mother-arrested-over-allegedly-keeping-woman-in-slavery-20190710-p525wm.html |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gordon on Jul 10th, 2019 at 4:28pm
I wonder which mosque they went to?
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Valkie on Jul 10th, 2019 at 5:51pm
It's their kultcha it are.
I'll put pennies to pounds that not one women's group, feminazi or feminist organisation even so much as look at this. Just a bunch of cherry picking cowards. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 10th, 2019 at 7:40pm
Imported slave owners.
Bet there is plenty more too. Pandora's box with this lot. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:47am
$89,00 in cash?
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:49am Valkie wrote on Jul 10th, 2019 at 5:51pm:
True - wait for the apologists to come in with the "Islamophobe" line.... |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:39am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:49am:
There's no mention of religion in the article, dear. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:30am
Anyone willing to clarify this tale?
An afghani male Wife One. Enslaved six years or more ago. But where was she enslaved, in Afghan or Australia? Is she still in Australia? Wife Two. Enslaved by same guy plus his mother and brother So what happened? She travelled to Afghan with the husband but he returned to Oz and she was left in Afghan? She made it back to Oz on her own and informed police? $89,000 belonging to one of the wives but not in her possession. Instead, thieved by the husband his mother brother gang Is the Afghan slave-master married to both slave wives still? and they're goign to have to change dear old Merrylands' name. That name, so filled with optimism and once bestowed on its clean and orderly streets, has been trashed by globalist product edit: yes, first wife/slave is still alive. Both slave-wives are being supported by our taxpayer funded authorities |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:33am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:39am:
oh, as you know, it's more than a fair bet that the latest criminal migrants to be exposed ARE muslim looky Quote:
99% close enough for you, sweetie ? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:51am
I've googled around. Seems non of the media sources have too great a handle on it
The husband had done it before, apparently. In this latest incident, he travelled to Afghanistan with Wife Two and dumped her there. It needs to be explained about the $89,000 and WE need to be informed if those monies were paid to Wife Two (and maybe the same with Wife One) from OUR taxes in the form of welfare … at the same time she was working as a slave for ugly momma and the other brother/s. Maybe he had Wife Three lined up .. same story followed by another one dumped in Afghanistan while he roped in Wife Four and what was the younger brother doing to help swell the family coffers? Is he a half wit unable to get a wife, leaving big brother to do all the work? anyway, it's a 25 year maximum sentence for slave ownership in Australia. They've been refused bail. if that mysterious stash of $89,000 from Wife Two alone is taxpayers' money, we should be demanding it be handed over in full. Then find out how much Wife One was worth monetarily and where that went then deport the thieving, stinking sub human bunch of them |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:33pm PZ547 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:33am:
Like I said: no mention of religion in the article. Moreover, it's completely irrelevant. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:38pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
gee greg, you're so jewway like those who're claiming … all of a sudden … that Epstein's being jew is 'irrelevant' Do you jerks all get the same instruction memo at the same time? 99% muslims in Afghanistan so very sure bet the slave keepers are muslim they bring their crap culture to the host nation and dump amongst the host population yes, it's relevant which is why details are scant to emerge from our traitor government where did Wife Two get $89,000 if she came here as a 'refugee'/asylum seeker ????? so where did she get $89,000 if she was a full time slave for three adults ??????? was she working ??? does ATO have records of her employment ?????? so yes, it's damn relevant |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Yadda on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:46pm Completely lawful in ISLAM. And we will suffer this type of incident being discovered, again, and again, so long as our lawmakers choose to 'accommodate' a moslem community in Australia. Followers of ISLAM. As the husband is obedient to Allah, wives [and children] must be obedient to their husbands/fathers. And in ISLAMIC law, those individuals who are disobedient lose Allah's protection. In that event, they may be lawfully treated as In effect, such persons 'acquire' the legal status of cattle [just as is the case for other disbelievers]. Such persons may be lawfully mistreated or killed [as an apostate/disbeliever]. Yadda said.... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1559641082/8#8 Quote:
WWW search.... Hijrah, emigrate in the cause of Allah, jihad . In ISLAM, in ISLAMIC law, it is lawful for a parent, to kill a child. 100% true Disobedient wives would be in the same situ. WWW search.... "British girl kidnapped by Saudi father: "I told [the Saudi police] he was keeping me there against my will and all they said was, 'He's your father, if he wants he can kill you'." marriage http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338868086/4#4 Quote:
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:49pm
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Things are looking promising Yadda Remember --- BOTH slave wives dobbed in their slavemaster husband and his pig mother and most likely retarded brother so they GOT him using AUSSIE law ;D Now we Aussies want our money back, pronto and for the three jail birds to be deported the minute they're released from the clink after serving their sentences |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:51pm PZ547 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Their religion - which was never mentioned - is completely irrelevant. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:01pm
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Did this work for you when you were a kid, greg ... repeating the same thing with a donkey brained stubbornness until someone (obviously a very weak someone) caved well, you're no kid any longer and those tactics don't work Yes, in this thread, amongst these posters and no doubt to the vast majority of taxpaying Aussies AND observing world their religion IS relevant because their religion, like that other, closely related one, is a culture, a lifestyle and is inextricably involved in all they do So yes, they are muslims they came here under some weepy whiny excuse if they'd had a cent to bless themselves with, they wouldn't have been eligible to get into Oz, OR they would not have been entitled to taxpayers' money Yet the slave masters had $89,000 of Wife Two's money So where did Wife Two get that money? She claims to have been enslaved by three muslims Now we need to know if she was engaged in paid employment at the same time and the ATO would have that info at their fingertips So --- if she was not engaged in paid employment, the $89,000 was derived from taxpayers while she was engaged in UNpaid employment as a slave Clearly, she hadn't needed to spend any of that taxpayers' money on roof or food and that's what taxpayers' money is supposed to be used for and NOT to build up a bundle of cash to be grabbed by slavemaster spouses Now we also need to know how much taxpayers have been forcibly forking out for the mother slavemaster and the brother slavemaster AND the husband slavemaster Will we learn that ALL of them ... all FOUR of them, were creaming it in from Aussie taxpayers? Aussie taxpayers are ENTITLED to know and when the slavemasters have served their sentence DEPORTATION THANK YOU MORRISON back to 99% muslim Afghanistan because we do NOT want the slavemaster husband conning another slave-wife so he can grab MORE taxpayers' hard earned money now go try to divert the subject in some other thread greg and consider retiring soon because you're not up to it |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:02pm PZ547 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:01pm:
Nah. Completely irrelevant. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:09pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:39am:
I'll give you three guesses Greg. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:12pm freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:09pm:
Why would anyone want to know their religion? It's completely irrelevant. Are they left-handed, or right-handed? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gordon on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:17pm
Religion. Islam is the official religion of Afghanistan and the majority of the population is Muslim (approximately 99.7%).
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:12pm:
It's relevant to me, matey and no doubt relevant to all those several million other aussies who pay for this crap we want to know what's going on with our money and we want to know which begging-bowl nationality/religions are most inclined to abuse our misplaced generosity so maybe not relevant to you but relevant to others So let's hope the punishment is severe, followed by deportation and let that be a lesson to the rest |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:35pm PZ547 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:21pm:
Are they left-handed, or right-handed? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:35pm Gordon wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:17pm:
How is that at all relevant? Are they left-handed, or right-handed? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:35pm:
It's relevant to me, matey and no doubt relevant to all those several million other aussies who pay for this crap we want to know what's going on with our money and we want to know which begging-bowl nationality/religions are most inclined to abuse our misplaced generosity so maybe not relevant to you but relevant to others So let's hope the punishment is severe, followed by deportation and let that be a lesson to the rest wish you'd find yourself a real job greg, maybe as a groundsman or something then this forum would get a break from your continually trying to divert and derail |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:42pm PZ547 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:41pm:
Are they left-handed, or right-handed? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:49pm
Where's Albo and his crew in all this?
Why isn't Albo holding LNP to account for slipping Afghani muslim slave-keepers into Oz? Why isn't Albo in the media demanding to know the facts of this $89,000 cash ? Why isn't Albo protecting the monies of Aussie taxpayers by demanding the LNP get that $89,000 back, first off followed by lengthy imprisonment followed by deportation for the entire ugly gang of them 25 years maximum sentence for slave keeping in Australia deprivation of liberty and welfare fraud if applicable Get onto it Albo … then deal with Setka and be the feminist you could be |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:29pm PZ547 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:49pm:
I've read the story again, and I can't find anything that says the alleged offenders are immigrants. So, no mention of religion, and no mention of immigration. Are you perhaps reading a different story to me? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:49pm
Afghanistan is not a race.
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:53pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:49pm:
And as far as I know, Merrylands is not a foreign country. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Fuzzball on Jul 11th, 2019 at 3:52pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:12pm:
YES Miss Pessary, you undoubtably are....... |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 11th, 2019 at 4:02pm
What sort of immigration policy picks people who are capable of committing slavery? ::)
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 11th, 2019 at 4:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:53pm:
Yes, but these people are Afghanis. They have different laws about keeping slaves, no? WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 4:07pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
What immigrants are you talking about? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 11th, 2019 at 4:13pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 4:02pm:
Exactly. Ayrabs, Gyppos, Thugees, pirates, the lot. And then there's those of an Afghani persuasion (not a race). All perfectly capable of capturing and selling slaves. You could say it's in their biological makeup - their levels of pigmentation. You certainly wouldn't see Whitey doing it. Tinted, innit. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 4:16pm |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Secret Wars on Jul 11th, 2019 at 4:17pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 4:13pm:
::) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 11th, 2019 at 11:30pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:35pm:
Some are good Mussos - they teach girls at school - others are bad Mussos - they chop heads of those who teach girls at school... |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 11th, 2019 at 11:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 2:53pm:
Tell that to the 17 yo stabbed multiple times in his own home today in Granville - just across the road ... if it's not a New Territory foreign country, I don't know what is.... |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 11th, 2019 at 11:35pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:39am:
True - they're Afghani Mennonites... who somehow escaped the Holocaust in Afghanistan on all Infidels... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 12th, 2019 at 2:07am
Wait for all the virtue signalling morons out there that will say that we should be culturally sensitive to Muslims keeping slaves. And that we should not be so racist for impeding their religious freedoms to keep slaves.
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Valkie on Jul 12th, 2019 at 5:28am UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 2:07am:
It's just another nail in the coffin of civilization. FGM is rife, even in Australia Pedophile marriage is also practiced by these barbarians. They make their women totally subservient breeding machines, beating them into submission and hiding the bruises with tents. Crime, of every persuasion, is so ingrained into these creatures that entire police tactical squads have to be formed. But the sychophant, apologist islamophiles tell us they are a peaceful people. A lie they repeat every single day. This is NOT THE TRUTH. Any country where Islam rules is hell. Daily murder, fear, rape the list goes on. And yet the sychophant, apologist islamophiles ignore these facts. They are traitors to civilization They are traitors to the human race They are traitors to their own country They are traitors to their own children. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:42am
I think we should be culturally sensitive to these sorts of practices. It takes all kinds, no?
Rich tapestry, innit. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:46am Valkie wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 5:28am:
Now now, Matty, there's no need to be racist. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:47am UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 2:07am:
There is no mention of Muslims in the article. No mention of immigrants, either. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:59am
Remember about 20 years ago some aussies got done for slavery? Who was it? Some guy in sydney and a woman in darwin and a guy in perth? A slavery ring?
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:06am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:47am:
why you keep flogging your dead-horse comments greg? it's established that 99.7% of Afghanis are muslim and it's obvious they're migrants under one or another of the globalist terminologies or by now they'd be fully versed in what constitutes appropriate and lawful behaviours under Australian law So quit arguing for the sake of it in your usual gleeful 'stirring to frustrate and make people enjoy their day less than before they read your posts' personal agenda of spite and self-dissatisfaction you're only happy when you're pizzing people off Yes, they are muslim immigrants they have trashed the values and laws of the host nation and host population they're being criticised for doing so they've been apprehended they will be punished and there's the not unsubstantial matter of $89,000 which is rightly suspected of being taxpayers' money Islam is not a mere religion. It's a culture, a way of life for its followers The traitorous Australian government lifted bigamy laws to accommodate muslims, although an Australian/white bigamist will feel the hand of law on his collar The traitorous Australian government changed the terminology re: bigamy but only as it applied to muslims. The traitorous Australian government deems bigamous muslim marriages to be 'religious marriages' thereby relieving itself of having to prosecute the flood of mulim immigrants so, muslims but not Australians are permitted to have four 'religious marriages' and each of those 'religious multiple wives and their offspring' are entitled to receive free money from the taxpayers plus free housing The media has gone very quiet about the slave keeping husband of to date, two muslim wives because questions hover over the $89,000 reportedly belonging to Wife Two whom the muslim slave keeper husband dumped in Afghanistan Naturally, Australian taxpayers are curious to learn how the slave wife Number Two managed to accumulate $89,000 despite reportedly being a full-time slave to her muslim husband, his mother and brother If Wife Two or the slavekeeping muslim husband try to claim she earned it whilst simultaneously performing as a full time slave, then naturally, the ATO would have records of when, where and in what capacity that money was earned If the ATO does not have record of that money, then slave Wife Two and her muslim spouse will be required to explain how she came into possession of the money and if it's discovered the money was provided her by the Australian taxpayer, then the muslim slave keeping husband and Wife Two will find themselves subject to further charges -- or at least the taxpayer would expect that to be the case and will want to know why not, if not the slave keeping muslim husband, in my opinion, was running a scam. And he was brought undone thanks to Australian law and Wife Two who dobbed on him it's a good start and hopefully other women will gain confidence in the fact that they too can gain justice from a civilized host nation How much has that family, with its two slave wives and including the slave keeping husband, his mother and brother, cost this nation in real terms is the question. And what is this government going to do about it and also to make sure it is rooted out and expelled with amendments to immigration as pertains to certain ethnicities and yes, religions? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:19am PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:06am:
What you said [smiley=thumbup.gif] |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Captain Caveman on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:24am Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:19am:
Yep. 👏👏 👏 👏 👏👏 It is great that Muslim women are coming forward. Exposing these mongrel Muslim men is great to see. May wake a few dolts up as well. 👍 |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:29am PZ547 wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Yes they were trafficking slaves long before the British & French & Southern Yanks. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:32am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:51pm:
No it's not ... it's part of their culture ...their way of life ... so it's completely relevant when that sort of cultural/religious activity is carried out in Australia. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:33am Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:32am:
Can you show me where it says in the article that the alleged perpetrators are: a) Muslims, and b) immigrants. Thank you. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:38am PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:06am:
Can you show me where it says in the article that the alleged perpetrators are: a) Afghans, b) immigrants, and/or c) Muslims Thank you. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:38am
It's not necessary ..... it is only for you.
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:42am Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:38am:
White flag accepted. Maybe you'll read news articles more carefully in the future. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:49am
You're contributing nothing, greg
you're running on empty you're so desperate that now you're trying to position 'the article' as the authority Well, too bad for you that the vast majority can read between the lines and work it out for themselves but you'll keep up your nonsense because your empty posts are what keep you alive, literally and you hang out in here, far away from the voice of the people where you'd be demolished in seconds What I've posted is what the real, living, functioning, taxpaying host population is thinking and saying |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:58am PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:49am:
The article is the focus of this thread. Nowhere does the article state the alleged perpetrators' religion or nationality. Not one mention of them being Afghans, Muslims, or even immigrants. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:04am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:58am:
Wrong again the media's job and bread and butter is to raise matters to public attention which is precisely what the article did and a dearth of further reports suggest the govt. doesn't want this matter drawn to public attention thereby forcing/encouraging the public to work it out for themselves and draw their own conclusions but you, greg, seem to believe you're a gatekeeper in this tiny forum and seem to believe you can divert and derail all attempts by other posters to draw their own conclusions and form their own opinions |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:05am PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:04am:
No. I'm 100% correct. Not one mention of the alleged perpetrators being Afghans, Muslims, or even immigrants. You might want to get your eyes checked, old boy. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:05am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:42am:
I read it ... what's irrelevant is your questions. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:07am Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:05am:
Good. So now you know there's not one mention of the alleged perpetrators being Afghans, Muslims, or even immigrants. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:08am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:58am:
Yeah ... just flew over to Afghanistan to dump his wife. ::) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:10am Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:08am:
Yes. That's what the article says. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:39am Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:32am:
Let me explain it another way for you. We can all agree that the perpetrators (if guilty) are complete & utter arseholes who deserve to be in prison. Yeah - we all agree? Of course we do. Now, if the perps turn out to be white Canadian Christians, are they still complete & utter arseholes who deserve to be in prison? Of course. What if they turn out to be Buddhists from Switzerland - still complete & utter arseholes who deserve to be in prison? Of course. Why? Because they're complete & utter arseholes who deserve to be in prison - their religion and nationality is completely irrelevant. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:32am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:39am:
Their religion and nationality isn't irrelevant. Perhaps their culture and religion plays a big part in their thinking. In the Koran it states that it is permissible to take slaves. That's why ISIS took Yazidi women as slaves. And we all know some of the dodgy views they have on women in that part of the world Pecca. They have the dowry system. They have arranged marriages. She might have wanted to piss off back home because she couldn't stand him and he wouldn't let her. It happens a lot when complete strangers marry. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:34am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:32am:
It talks in the xtian bible how to treat your slaves . . . . Spot |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:36am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:32am:
The good thing is, white Christians have never been involved in slavery. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:42am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:36am:
They have. But you were saying culture and religion doesn't play a part in this when I'd put money on it that it has to do with culture. A load of sub continental women have been bumped off in Australia or abused because of the dowry system. They are forced to marry some bloke and end up disliking him. She wants to leave but he bumps her off. Or she meets a bloke she loves and he bumps her off in a fit of jealous rage. Or she wants to leave but the family won't let her. Stop apologising for migrants Pecca. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:44am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:42am:
The only migrant mentioned in the OP is the victim, Jocko. Don't you have compassion for the victim? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:08pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:44am:
Stay on topic Pecca. You know why some migrant groups get their wives from overseas? They get a big slab of money! She gets out here and then sends money back to the family. It's like taking one for the team. Fundamentally it's a immigration scam. A Cambodian bloke at the place I used to work offered me $60,000 to marry his sister. He gave me this photo of her with all this psychedelic poo whirling around her face. She was an absolute arm biter. I knocked it back. You need to get out of Victoria Park and experience the real Australian multicultural experience. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:15pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:08pm:
You don't expect me to believe that, do you? You never used to work. Moreover, Victoria Park is one of the most multicultural suburbs in the entire country. Fairly multicultural here in Blenheim too. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:23pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:15pm:
Why was the mother and brother involved then muppet? Read the article. A 39-year-old man, his 28-year-old brother and their 58-year-old mother were arrested at a home in Merrylands on Wednesday. Ah you inner city types. You know nothing. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:29pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:23pm:
I know for a fact that the article doesn't mention the alleged perpetrators' religion or nationality. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:46pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:29pm:
Well that's just a given. If they've gone to Afghanistan to get a wife they obviously are of Afghan descent. And seeing that Afghanistan is 99% Islamic they are obviously Muslims. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gordon on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:47pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:46pm:
99.7 |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:49pm Gordon wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:47pm:
It's amazing to me that Pecca argues when he knows he is wrong. He must have some mental condition Gordy. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:58pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:46pm:
So you have to be on afghan descent to marry an afghani? Spot |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:05pm Gordon wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:47pm:
Concentrate, for just one minute. The victim is an Afghan. So, there's a good chance she's a Muslim. There is, however, no mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion or nationality. What part of that does your tiny, racist pea-brain fail to understand? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:06pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:58pm:
Must be a new law we haven't heard about, Spot. Perhaps the pea-brain racists could provide a link to the actual piece of legislation. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:11pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 12:46pm:
I'm convinced now that you pea-brains are reading a different article to the one in the OP. Nowhere does it say that they went to Afghanistan to get a wife. You all need to go to Specsavers™. No mention of the alleged perpetrators' nationality. No mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion. No mention of the alleged perpetrators being immigrants. No mention of the alleged perpetrators going to Afghanistan to get a wife. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:10am:
Why would he pick Afghanistan .... not really a tourist location anymore. Want to get rid of the wife yeah just flit over to Afghanistan ... it's a great wife dumping location. ::) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:34pm Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:32pm:
That's where she's from. Didn't you read the article? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:39am:
Do any of those others you mention indulge in polygamy & child marriage in Australia? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:36pm Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:34pm:
Why have you changed the subject? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Holdfast on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:42pm
So this thread is essentially a big racist dog whistle?
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:49pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:36am:
They don't today as far as I'm aware. We are talking about slavery today aren't we? That one group has continued it on through the centuries whilst others have dropped it completely wouldn't be relevant either according to you I take it? https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/worst-countries-for-child-labor.html https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_21st_century#/media/File%3AModern_incidence_of_slavery.png  Modern_incidence_of_slavery.png (53 KB | 11
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:58pm Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:49pm:
Irrelevant. We're discussing the alleged perpetrators in the OP. Their religion and nationality - which is not mentioned anywhere in the news article - is completely irrelevant. It looks to me like people are trying to make excuses for them. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:58pm Holdfast wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:42pm:
It was started by Gordon, so yes. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:49pm:
I suggest you do a little more research. "Where is slavery most prevalent? "Slavery exists in every country—no country is immune. "However, the highest concentrations of people in slavery are found in the Asia & Pacific region and in sub-Saharan Africa." "In what industries is slavery most prevalent? "About 50 percent of slavery is forced labor in agriculture, manufacturing, construction, fishing, mining and other physical-labor industries; about 12.5 percent is sex slavery in forced prostitution; about 37.5 percent is forced marriage." "What are the causes of slavery? "In a word, slavery is due to vulnerability. "Poverty alone does not explain slavery. "Most slavery victims are poor, but not all poor people are in slavery. "Rather there are special vulnerabilities that make some poor people susceptible to becoming enslaved". Keep reading, and let me know when you find something about 'religion'. https://www.freetheslaves.net/our-model-for-freedom/faqs-glossary/ |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 12th, 2019 at 3:44pm PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:06am:
Excuse me, are you suggesting that Islam is a race? You do realise that's racist, yes? You do understand that some members here will get most offended by your remarks, given they see Islam as a religious conquest for world domination? Culture, innit. Backward, inbred, performative. Stupid and mendacious. Correlation not causation. It is a jolly world, no? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:36pm:
You did. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:30pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:58pm:
No you twisty shyte you're just riding the beaten favourite while the suppression order is on the case. Will you honour your previous bet about Trump winning when their identities & information about their backgrounds is disclosed & points to them being Afghanis, migrants & deliberately choosing to return to Afghanistan to hide the crime? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:32pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 1:34pm:
;D ;D You dick ::) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:35pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:
The highest incidences are all in known majority if not 100% Islamic states. So stop being a dropkick. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Frank on Jul 12th, 2019 at 7:06pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:
And in countries where those people are allowed to migrate to.... They are wolves to each other in their own countries - hence the observable shitehole effect in those places - and remain wolves to their compatriots when they migrate to new countries, reproducing the shitehole effect as best they can there. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:27pm Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
So, where did you read the bit about 'religion'? You didn't say. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:29pm Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
You didn't read the article, did you? She's an Afghan. Afghans are from Afghanistan. That's why he picked Afghanistan. What part of this don't you understand? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:31pm Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:30pm:
The perpetrators' religion (if they have one) and nationality is not mentioned anywhere in the article. Do you agree? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:35pm
If these slave masters aren't Afghans then how did they know the afghan language to line up a phony marriage?
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:51pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:35pm:
Who says they know the Afghan language? And, how is the marriage phony? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:56pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:51pm:
So did they line up this marriage using hand signals pecca? Of course these marriages are phony. All arranged marriages where some ethnic travels back to their homeland to shop for a wife are. They get a lump sum in the process. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:58pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:56pm:
The article makes no mention of the alleged perpetrators' ethnicity. Nor does it make any mention of them travelling to a foreign country to shop for a wife. What part of that don't you understand? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
They dropped her back there on a one way ticket. That's a refund. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:07am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:29pm:
What part of pedant & being obtuse in your responses don't you understand? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:11am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
When the suppression order is lifted will you honour your previous bet about Trump winning when their identities & information about their backgrounds is disclosed & points to them being Afghanis, migrants & deliberately choosing to return to Afghanistan to hide the crime? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:28am Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:20pm:
Yes. She's from Afghanistan. It says so in the article. However, there is no mention of where the alleged perpetrators are from. No mention of their nationality, or religion. Also, there is no mention of how the woman came to be in Sydney. Capiche? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:30am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:12pm:
What if their religious doctrine contributed to them owning a slave? Would you care then, or is spinelessly apologising for Islam more important than the truth? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by mothra on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:31am Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Completely untrue. Do you willfully lie are you willfully that ignorant? Modern slavery occurred in every region of the world. Modern slavery was most prevalent in Africa (7.6 per 1,000 people), followed by Asia and the Pacific (6.1 per 1,000) then Europe and Central Asia (3.9 per 1,000). These results should be interpreted cautiously due to lack of available data in some regions, notably the Arab States and the Americas. For forced labour specifically, the prevalence is highest in Asia and the Pacific, where four out of every 1,000 people were victims, followed by Europe and Central Asia (3.6 per 1,000), Africa (2.8 per 1,000), the Arab States (2.2 per 1,000) and the Americas (1.3 per 1,000). While noting limits of the data in key regions, particularly the Arab States, the data suggests prevalence of forced marriage is highest in Africa (4.8 per 1,000), followed by Asia and the Pacific (2.0 per 1,000). https://cdn.minderoo.com.au/content/uploads/2019/05/16124123/global-estimates-of-modern-slavery_executive-summary.pdf |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:32am Gnads wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:07am:
I'm not sure what you're getting at here. You asked a question, and I answered it honestly. He took her to Afghanistan because she's an Afghani. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:33am freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:30am:
Are they religious, FD? How do you know they're not atheists? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:35am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:33am:
You didn't answer the question Greg. What if their religious doctrine contributed to them owning a slave? Would you care then, or is spinelessly apologising for Islam more important than the truth? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:38am freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:35am:
What's their religious doctrine, FD? It's not mentioned in the article. In fact, it doesn't even say that they're religious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:44am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:38am:
I am not asking you what their religion is. I am asking you to explain why you insist it is irrelevant. What if their religious doctrine contributed to them owning a slave? Would you care then, or is spinelessly apologising for Islam more important than the truth? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:48am freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:44am:
Do they have a religious doctrine? I didn't see that mentioned in the article. And why do you keep mentioning Islam? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:50am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:48am:
Is the concept of a hypothetical too much for you Greg? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:59am freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Ah. So the thread title is a hypothetical? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:03am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:59am:
My question is hypothetical. Are you having trouble understanding it? Is this the level of confusion required to be an Islamic apologist? What if their religious doctrine contributed to them owning a slave? Would you care then, or is spinelessly apologising for Islam more important than the truth? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:06am freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:03am:
Is the thread title a hypothetical? You didn't say. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:10am
Do you understand what a hypothetical question is Greg?
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:12am freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:10am:
Indeed. Does this thread have a hypothetical title? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:49am
So why all the stupid questions?
This is what you said: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 1:12pm:
What if their religious doctrine contributed to them owning a slave? Would you care then, or is spinelessly apologising for Islam more important than the truth? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:21am freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:49am:
What religious doctrine? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:28am Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
No, dear, the highest instances are in African and Asian countries and totally unrelated to religion. Thai fishing businesses, for example, enslve a huge number of Rohinga, who are made to work the trawlers. Nepalese prostitutes are being kept in India. Child soldiers in Africa have been taken in a range of wars. And in Amerika? A large number of "illegals" are being kept on slave wages and threatened with jail. This too is classed as slavery. St stop talking crap. You're wrong. I mean this in the nicest possible way, dear. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:33am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:21am:
What sound does a jellyfish make? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 11:02am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:21am:
It's a hypothetical Greg. Do you still not know how they work? Or does your answer depend on which religious doctrine? Would you say for example that religion is irrelevant if Islam contributed to them owning a slave, but it suddenly becomes relevant if it is some other religion? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 13th, 2019 at 11:33am mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:31am:
Instead of posting links similar to what I have posted in the vain attempt of oneupmanship.... Why don't you look at the map I posted & tell me the areas of the highest levels of modern slavery(which has several classifications) and check the majority religious demographic of those countries. You sanctimonious apologist. ::) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Sir lastnail on Jul 13th, 2019 at 1:30pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 12:51pm:
No it's not. It's written in their old book full of riddles. Expect more of this sh.t as they promote more religious freedoms :( |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 1:39pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 1:30pm:
Whose book? There is no mention of religion in the article, so how do you know the alleged perpetrators are religious at all? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 13th, 2019 at 1:58pm
Maybe they don't want to be racist, Greggery. After all, Islam is not a race.
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:20pm
Greg how do you know their religion is irrelevant?
And have you figured out what a hypothetical question is yet? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:27pm freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:20pm:
FD, how do you know they have a religion? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 7:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:27pm:
I didn't say they do. You did however say their religion is irrelevant. Why were you so eager to dismiss the role of religion? And why have you been tapdancing ever since? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 7:48pm freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 7:45pm:
So, why do you keep mentioning religion and Islam? And, why is 'Muslims' in the thread title. We're all curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 7:49pm Quote:
It was an attempt to get a straight answer from you. Why were you so eager to dismiss the role of religion? And why have you been tapdancing ever since? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 7:56pm freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 7:49pm:
There's no mention of it in the article. I'm surprised you missed that. Why are you so eager to dismiss the role of hair colour? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:05pm
I have not dismissed anything Greg. One more time for the dimwitted. You said this:
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Why? Do you have any reason to think religion had nothing to do with it? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:10pm freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:05pm:
What religion do they subscribe to, FD? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:02pm Quote:
all very islamic |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:20am Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:02pm:
That's the victim, Sprint. It appears that the victim is a Muslim. However, there is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion, or nationality. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:51am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:10pm:
Like I said, I'll give you three guesses. Are you tapdancing around your "religion is irrelevant claim" because you have already guessed Islam so you want to spinelessly apologise just in case? Or have you changed your mind? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:56am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:51am:
Who said they're religious, FD? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:56am
Well the govt. lets them have four 'religious' wives
maybe if they use them as welfare bait then dump them back in Afghan, the govt. lets them keep on updating to five, six, twenty religious wives and we pay for all of it as usual as for greg, he's just racking up posts for noodles as usual and I guess we pay for that as well |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:57am PZ547 wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:56am:
Who said the alleged perpetrators are religious? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:56am:
You asked about their religion Greg. I answered. Feel free to claim they are atheists, given your willingness to make poo up. Are you tapdancing around your "religion is irrelevant" claim because you have already guessed Islam so you want to spinelessly apologise just in case? Or have you changed your mind? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:01am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59am:
I'm not claiming that they're atheists. I'm merely stating a fact: there is no mention of their religion (if they have one) or nationality in the article. So the question remains: why is the word 'Muslims' in the thread title? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:04am
When narcissists have had their backsides kicked
(in other words, have been sussed, have been ejected, have failed to get their own way) they transfer their rage onto random others Narcissists are they who tail-gate, who shine high-beams into the eyes of the drivers in front and into the eyes of oncoming traffic, for example narcissists are they who tell defamatory lies about their selected target narcissists are the cause of at least 50% of all the troubles and strife worldwide Narcissists are possessed by demons who use the narcissist as a tool and toy and the dumb narcissist is helpless in the demons' hands Other forms of transference of their narcissist rage is repeating the same thing repeatedly, just to irk .... but mostly to grab any bit of attention available like Vikki Polock, 'yeah but, no but, yeah' simpletons furious about their sad lives determined to inject as much as possible of their inner rage and self hatred on disinterested others best thing to do with a narcissist is to ignore it after all, everyone knows the narcissist is rancid trash best avoided yeah but, no but, yeah |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:05am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:01am:
One more time for the dimwitted. You said this: Quote:
Why? Do you have any reason to think religion had nothing to do with it? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:07am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:05am:
Why? Do you have any reason to think religion had nothing to do with it?[/quote] Do you have any reason to think eye colour had nothing to do with it? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:09am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:07am:
Do you have any reason to think eye colour had nothing to do with it? [/quote] I am not the one telling everyone what is relevant and what isn't. You are. One more time for the dimwitted. You said this: Quote:
Why? Do you have any reason to think religion had nothing to do with it? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:09am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:09am:
I am not the one telling everyone what is relevant and what isn't. You are. One more time for the dimwitted. You said this: Quote:
Why? Do you have any reason to think religion had nothing to do with it?[/quote] Do you have any reason to think hair colour had nothing to do with it? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:13am
Greg, if you are trying to make a point, why not just make it, rather than bleating on with this moronic tapdancing?
Are you afraid to say what you are thinking? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:16am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:13am:
I've made the (factual) point several times. There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion (if they have one) or nationality in the article. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:17am
Are you denying that you said this:
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:23am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Not at all. I can say it again if you like. Their religion - which was never mentioned - is completely irrelevant. Which makes one wonder, why does the word 'Muslims' appear in the thread title? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:38am
How do you know that religion is irrelevant?
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:42am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:38am:
How do you know that eye colour is irrelevant? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:44am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:42am:
I don't. They could be Afghan Nazis after all. How do you know that religion is irrelevant Greg? And why the three pages of your moronic tapdancing on this question? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:49am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:44am:
1. No mention of religion in the article. 2. Religion usually has nothing to do with slavery. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:55am Quote:
Wow. Only 3 pages of Greg's moronic tapdancing to get a straight answer. That might be a record. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_slavery The sharīʿah (divine law) regarded as legal slaves only those non-Muslims who were imprisoned or bought beyond the borders of Islamic rule, or the sons and daughters of slaves already in captivity.[4] In later classical Islamic law, the topic of slavery is covered at great length. The Arab slave trade was most active in West Asia, North Africa, and Southeast Africa. Muslim traders exported as many as 17 million slaves to the coast of the Indian Ocean, the Middle East, and North Africa.[12] In the early 20th century (post World War I), slavery was gradually outlawed and suppressed in Muslim lands, largely due to pressure exerted by Western nations such as Britain and France.[5] For example, Saudi Arabia and Yemen only abolished slavery in 1962 under pressure from Britain; Oman followed suit in 1970, and Mauritania in 1905, 1981, and again in August 2007.[13] However, slavery claiming the sanction of Islam is documented presently in the predominantly Islamic countries of Chad, Mauritania, Niger, Mali, and Sudan. Are you saying you know that these people were not Muslims, or do you include Islam when you say that religion usually has nothing to do with slavery? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:01am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:55am:
Do you know what the word "usually" means, FD? I'm curious. Religion usually has nothing to do with slavery. Sometimes it does, on rare occasions. However, it usually has nothing to do with slavery. Moreover, there is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion in the article. So, it makes one wonder why you keep mentioning Islam, and why the word 'Muslims' appears in the thread title. Any clues as to why? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:11am
One more time for the dimwitted. You said this:
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Are you now backpedaling on this claim? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:18am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:11am:
Not at all. Here it is again: Their religion - which was never mentioned - is completely irrelevant. So, any idea why the word 'Muslims' appears in the thread title? I'm still curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Valkie on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:50am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:13am:
Couple of oxymoron there freediver. Turd mc turdface can't make a point, simply because it is pointless. Turd mc turdface can't think, thinking requires some degree of intelligence, and as we all know, t docent think, it simply baits and insults. Like all sychophant, apologist, virtue signaling islamophiles they ignore the brutality and primitive violence of the CULT of DEATH. Like all sychophant, apologist, virtue signalling islamophiles they try to promote false and impossible positives of the CULT of DEATH while being surrounded by so many examples of the exact opposite. They stand in a burning building while saying "Nice and cool in here, isn't it?" It will send socks to attack any who question it. Far too cowardly to attack under it's true avatar, sad in itself when you think about it. But, when they are a total failure in every thing in life. I guess they have to find something to base themselves |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:55am Valkie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:50am:
Where does the article mention the alleged perpetrators' religion, or nationality? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm
Kulchurul diff'runces, innit?
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by PZ547 on Jul 14th, 2019 at 12:54pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 12:35pm:
Why don't we just tell it as it is they're inbred, ignorant, violent, atavistic throwbacks who deserve to be purged a civilized world cannot afford to harbour them any longer we don't have the time or patience to civilize them and even if we were so inclined, our efforts would not be able to prevent our own, advanced civilised cultures from damage in the process the UK national health has been decimated, impoverished and broken under the strain of catering to the massive numbers of outright spastics to emerge from muslim inbreeding when google was half fit for purpose at best, you could go into images and see hundreds of photos of muslim inbreeds totally lacking a prefrontal cortex ! Main UK media showed photos of them too and revealed the massive social and financial cost imposed by what are idiots in the true sense of the word but being a superior, civilised nation as it was then, the UK … which should have given the literal idiots choking its shores the death-injection, undertook to sustain and maintain those muslim idiots for life !! For life !!! They lack a prefrontal cortex !!! They sit and chit and play with themselves all day long, every damned day for decades while the muslim parents … with four wives per man … were busy breeding more of them damn the eyes and all other parts of the zio demons who devised multiculturalism as a way of driving white civilisations to the wall and beyond damn them to hell |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 14th, 2019 at 12:55pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:20am:
;D ;D Gawd you're pathetic. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 14th, 2019 at 1:59pm
Like this?
https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2018/02/muslim-inbreeding-dragging-britain-back-to-the-19th-century/ https://www.intellectualtakeout.org/article/muslim-inbreeding-huge-problem-and-people-dont-want-talk-about-it "Recently I was discussing culture with an educated person whom I respect. Over bourbon, we talked about various matters, including religion. The conversation was interesting but uneventful until he dropped this line. “You do know half of the Arab world is inbred, right?” It was a jarring line. It sounded both coarse and false. I politely answered that, no, I was not aware of this particular fact. I must have been smirking, because he persisted. “It’s true. Look it up.” It was at this point I expressed skepticism. Perhaps he meant some villages in the Arab or Muslim world? Nope, he said. I said I’d look into the matter, something I did several weeks later. To my surprise, I found an abundance of information on the subject. To my embarrassment, I found that my friend was pretty much right. Reliable research suggests consanguineous marriage rates in many Arab nations are as high as 50 percent. How did I not know this? I decided to keep investigating. A Google search of “Islam Inbreeding” will lead one to the case of Salha al-Hefthi, a 17-year-old Saudi girl who was profiled by the New York Times in 2003. Ms. Hefthi’s parents told her how lucky she was to be marrying someone from her own tribe, her paternal uncle’s son—her first cousin. The couple had two healthy boys but their third child, a girl, was diagnosed with spinal muscular atrophy, a genetic disorder that usually is fatal. The couple would have three more children born with the disease. Ms. Hefthi told the Times she had no idea inbreeding often leads to genetic defects. This is not uncommon in Saudi Arabia, which is why genetic disorders are so rampant. “Saudi Arabia is a living genetics laboratory,” Dr. Stephen R. Schroeder, executive director of the Prince Salman Center for Disability Research, told the Times. “Here you can study 10 families to study genetic disorders, where you would need 10,000 families to study genetic disorders in the United States.” But it’s not just Saudi Arabia, or the Middle East for that matter. Inbreeding is surprisingly common in many Muslim nations and communities, evidence shows. About 40 percent of the population marries a cousin in Egypt, according to a 2016 report in The Economist, while the percentage in Jordan is 32 percent. “Rates are thought to be even higher in tribal countries such as Iraq and the Gulf states of Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Kuwait,” says the Economist. A 2005 BBC survey found that 55 percent of Britain’s huge Pakistani population was married to a first cousin. There are at least two reasons inbreeding is so common in parts of the Muslim world (in addition to ignorance of its link to genetic defects): tradition and religion. In many parts of the Islamic world, it’s considered unusual if not offensive to marry someone outside of one’s family or tribe. The pressure to marry a family member can be intense. A 38-year-old Egyptian woman with two sons suffering from micro-syndrome, for example, explained to the Economist how she was criticized by relatives for allowing her teenage daughter to marry “a stranger” instead of a family member. But the pressure can go beyond mere criticism. In recent years, European nations have seen young Muslim women killed for refusing to marry a family member. Honor killings, such as this 21-year-old Kurdish woman in Germany who was gunned down at a wedding after declining an arranged marriage with her cousin, are rare. But they demonstrate the emphasis Islamic culture places on “keeping it in the family.” The precedent for consanguineous marriage comes from the Qur'an itself. Following his military conquests, the prophet Muhammad famously married his cherished daughter Fatimah to his cousin Ali, an act that was shown to be a great honor. “I have married you to the dearest of my family to me,” Muhammed told Ali. In fact, cousins are not even considered blood relatives in the Islamic tradition because the Qur'an does not forbid or condemn marriage between cousins. Here is what is said in chapter 4, verse 23 of the religious text: “Prohibited to you (For marriage) are:- Your mothers, daughters, sisters; father's sisters, Mother's sisters; brother's daughters, sister's daughters; foster-mothers (Who gave you suck), foster-sisters; your wives' mothers; your step-daughters under your guardianship, born of your wives to whom ye have gone in,- no prohibition if ye have not gone in;- (Those who have been) wives of your sons proceeding from your loins; and two sisters in wedlock at one and the same time, except for what is past; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” As a result of this long religious tradition, convincing Muslims to stop the practice of inbreeding has proven difficult. “My dad would not accept that being married to his cousin could have affected his children,” said Aisha Khan, a 36-year-old Pakistani woman who lives in the UK and lost two siblings to genetic diseases. “He’d say, ‘The doctors are wrong. It’s in the hands of God.’” But inbreeding is an issue that needs to be addressed, some European leaders say. The problem is that genetic deficiencies from consanguineous marriages is taxing European healthcare systems." (ain't it a)... Cont ... |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 14th, 2019 at 2:01pm
(ain't it a).. Cont ......
"The BBC’s research, for example, found that that while British Pakistanis accounted for roughly 3.4% of all births, “they had 30% of all British children with recessive disorders and a higher rate of infant mortality.” One study found that each year 700 babies in the UK are born with genetic disabilities as a result of consanguineous marriage. Despite this epidemic of genetic defects in babies born from consanguineous marriages, there remains a reluctance in many Islamic leaders to acknowledge the full ramifications of marriage between cousins (see below). However, it should be noted that one of the impediments to addressing the issue of consanguineous marriage and its side-effects has nothing to do with Muslims. A serious problem, some critics say, is the inability of Western thought leaders to give the issue sufficient attention. Many, it seems, are hesitant to broach the subject, perhaps out of fear they’ll be mocked as xenophobic or portrayed as an Islamophobe. That won’t do, critics say. “It's a public health issue and we deal with public health issues by raising awareness, by talking about subjects such as obesity, such as drug addiction, such as alcohol,” Ann Cryer, a former British Labour Party politician, told The Telegraph. “But for some reason we're told that we mustn't talk about cousin marriages because this is a sensitive issue.” The dialogue raises an important question: If we can’t talk about sensitive cultural issues, how are people of diverse backgrounds, faiths, and ethnicities ever going to live together peacefully?" |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 2:02pm Gnads wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 12:55pm:
Why - because I stated a fact? There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' religion, or nationality. Not one word. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Valkie on Jul 14th, 2019 at 3:45pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
Explains a lot. No wonder they are so primitive, so insane, so terminally stupid. This is probably the only way they can get people to become and stay muzzo. They need absolutely insane, stupid people to worship a sociopath, cowardly, insane, self confessed pedophile, nutcase retard Muhammid the mad. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:37pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:18am:
So how can you insist their religion was irrelevant at the same time as acknowledging that religion sometimes does have something to do with slavery? Do you know something in particular about this case on which you can exclude the role of religion? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:10pm freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
Are they religious, FD? I didn't see that in the article. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by John Smith on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:13pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:10pm:
Perhaps that's because the article never mentioned religion Greg! |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:42pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:10pm:
How do you know that religion is irrelevant? Is the mere mention of Islam all it takes for you to lose the ability to hold a coherent thought? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:44pm freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:42pm:
Why are you mentioning Islam? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
I am asking whether Islam is the cause of your loss of spine. I don't see you turning into a blubbering imbecile for any other religion. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:48pm freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:45pm:
Why are you asking about Islam? I'm curious. The thread is about slavery. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
Like I said, you seem to be blaming the mention of Muslims in the thread title for you turning into a blubbering imbecile. Is that why you insisted religion is irrelevant? Because someone mentioned Islam? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:28pm freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
I doubt it's irrelevant to Pecca when a Catholic priest rapes a kid. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:14am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:01am:
Greg is your logic here inspired by Islam? How do you get from religion "usually" has nothing to do with slavery to telling everyone that religion is irrelevant in this particular case? Are you lying, or just confused? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:33am freediver wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
Why did someone mention Islam? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am
Can we find out if these afghanis were Muslim or not, poor old Gregg is getting exhausted with his tap dancing on the uncertainty that they are. ;D ;D ;D :D
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:52am Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
Do you want to find out if all those American employers blackmailing Mexicans to work for next to nothing are Muslim too, Secret? We're curious. If people of certain ethnic backgrounds can be defined Muslims, ee-gad - that destroys FD's claim that Islam is not a race. Miam miam, eh? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:05am Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:52am:
*waves Aussie salute at forum blowfly buzzing diversion*🦟 |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:10am Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:05am:
No no, I'm curious. What religion are the Americans who blackmail illegals into working for next to nothing? What religion are the Thai fishermen who chain their Rohinga slaves up when they're in port? Please explain? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:12am Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:50am:
There is no mention of the alleged perpetrators' nationality. So, what Afghanis are you talking about SW? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:13am Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:05am:
Are you suggesting this is a ridiculous question, dear? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:20am Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:13am:
I am suggesting it has nothing to do with what I posted, morevover I have no idea what you are blathering about. If you and the voices in your head, the collective “we” are curious then I suggest you start a thread or at least something other than the cryptic blather you just posted. Otherwise continue your impressions of the forum blowfly, buzzing into threads and dropping turds where ever you feel there is need for distraction. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:22am
So employing wetbacks in UncleSamland is now an Australian problem?
Cultural assimilation much...... |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:23am Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:10am:
I blame Islam.. you? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:23am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:12am:
Fair cop, court case is next week. I’m curious to see how your tap dancing pans out. ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:31am
"Police will allege the woman was deceived by her husband and his family into travelling to Afghanistan on a one-way ticket in January last year, while her husband allegedly returned to Australia a few days later without her."
Every white non-Muslim Aussie books a ticket to Afghanistan at the drop of a hat, and just to ensure that their personal slave, who is a fellow non-Muslim Aussie, is properly in line with the slave trade belief system..... it's a rite of passage for any Australian wife to be sent to Afghanistan, and then brought back home to serve ... Besides - unless she is a cousin of her husband, there'd be no marriage.... so by reasoning, if she's Afghani... he is, too.... and thus all his family are (cousins).... Bloody Pakis and that porous non-border... Talibistan since the border is an arbitrary line drawn by the colonialists... Balochistan, not Pakistan or Afghanistan..... so the Pakis don't actually 'cross the border' to engage in jihad - they ARE part of the border and they don't see the difference..... not 'foreign fighters' at all... |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:34am Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:23am:
Tap dancing? :-/ |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Secret Wars on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:47am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:34am:
Not at all, from the report on the balance of probability I am willing to accept that the perp is a Muslim afghani. I deal with grey all the time, nor do I believe that one is equal to many or that outrage is conditional on side. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 10:02am Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:47am:
And? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:25am greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 10:02am:
Guilty in a civil court, yer 'onnah.... and the court of public opinion is always civil... isn't it? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:28am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:25am:
Let's, for the sake of the argument, say that Secret Wars is right - the alleged perps are Muslims. How is that relevant? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:00pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 11:28am:
.. because they think that form of cultural activity is 'normal' and 'legal' ... same as marrying first cousins is considered 'normal'..... The New White Man's Burden is to socialise and civilise them..... in spite of themselves....... Funny how that works.... and funny how things go round and round..... good to see some girls in Britain etc refusing to be transported for the term of their natural life 'back' to the 'old country' for marriage to a cousin at age 14 .... the change is slow.. but it is working..... civilisation is creeping in slowly to the lesser ethnicities .... and they are slowly adopting The White Man's Way.... Now we need to stop them holding slaves.... 8-) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
Does there have to be? 99.7% of Afghans are Muslim. Indians living abroad go home to India for a bride Chinese go home to China for a bride. So it's reasonable to deduct that the perpetrator was going home to Afghanistan to return the bride he didn't want (dump) and then return to Australia where he had a new one in the wings. You never get sick of being a pedant. ::) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by capitosinora on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:11pm
Are there any Yobbos left in Merrylands?
Maybe they would prevent this to happen. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:13pm Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:11pm:
We don't know the alleged perpetrators' nationality. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:15pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:00pm:
Pure nonsense. "All Muslims are terrorists" has now turned into "All Muslims keep slaves". What next? ::) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:15pm:
Nobody said 'all'..... until you did..... however, the vast majority of Pakistani women, when asked, had never heard of any dangers in marrying first cousins and thought it 'normal', the basis of it being that all outsiders were potentially dangerous in some way ... and yet it is the West that is most often accused of xenophobia.* Work that one out... just read the article I posted last night.... Anyway - it is not then unreasonable to accept that a significant number of Muslims think it is reasonable to hold slaves ... and don't know that there is any problem associated with doing so.... kulchural, innit? * perhaps half of the fighting in Afghanistan is by locals resenting the intrusion of 'outsiders' on their turf and sometimes their drug territory ... not 'Taliban' based at all.... |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:31pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
You forgot to cite your references. I'm sure it was an honest oversight. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 15th, 2019 at 2:45pm Secret Wars wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 9:20am:
Then you haven't read the thread, dear, but no worries, I'll help you out. The world's biggest source of slavery is indentured workers - illegal migrants who are blackmailed to work for a pittance. One of the biggest markets for this form of human trafficking is the good old US of A. I have also identified Nepalese sex workers in India and Rohinga fishermen in Thailand as other similarly exploited people who work as slaves. Indeed, they have uncovered mass graves in Southern Thailand of Rohinga refugees - the ones, mainly older people, women and children, who couldn't be put to work. I hope that explains that, dear. If you don't want to explain what religion has to do with this, no worries. You're free to pick any of the tinted races you want, identify them as Muslim, and tell us all what rotters they are. You can then say that such hypothetical Muslims were just obeying their sinister prophet, thus pretending that all Muslims are at risk of doing the same as them. Then, you can say, you see? Aren't these tinted races terrible? WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE. If we say, but hang on, who said they're Muslims? You say, well, they're tinted, aren't they? And we say ah. Cunning, no? It's worked for you for many years, and if anyone asks any pesky questions, you brush them aside as apologetic blowflies. You'd pass them off as Islamic blowflies if you could, but the only Muslim on this site is smarter, fairer, nicer and far more articulate than you. FD keeps asking him really dumb questions to catch him out, and in the process, proves what a silly old sausage FD is. Also, the Muslim's not tinted, which disqualifies him from being the Ooga-booga you're really out to get. So unfair, no? You'd think they'd at least play by the rules and be tinted. FD would be happy if they just confessed to being Muslim. Hypothetically, I mean. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:11pm
You forget the Thais, Indian & Filipinos that go to the UAE & Saudi Arabia to work .... that are not paid & locked up as sex slaves.
Oh .... & the European women who are lured there for the same to happen to them. Not indentured at all..... slaves period. Nothing to do with Islam of course. ::) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:14pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
Ouch! :) |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:22pm Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:11pm:
Ah yes, "lured" over there on work visas with employment contracts. The only good thing about the Saudis: they pay up. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:36pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:22pm:
You don't know what motivated these people karnal. Neither do I. Islam dictates how a Muslim person conducts their life. And these people are Muslims so it's logical to assume it played a part in their actions. Personally I believe it's more a cultural thing with the problem of Afghan slavery in Australia. Indians are over represented also so I believe it's to do with the dowry system and arranged marriage. This is my take- they arranged a marriage with relos in Afghanistan and the son didn't like her so they tried to piss her back off there. But she came back. Because she was so desperate to stay in Australia they used that and turned her into a slave. They thought "well, let's turn a bad situation into a good one. She won't dob or we'll threaten to ring the immigration department". |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:39pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:36pm:
Where does the article say that, Jocko? I'm curious. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:45pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:39pm:
Not that article. The one I just looked at showing the tinted sons and the mother in a burqa. Daily Mail Australia-AFP claim Afghan migrant was kept as Sydney family's slave, then stranded her in Afghanistan . Look it up yourself. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:47pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:45pm:
That's the victim, dear. Where does it say that the alleged perpetrators are Muslims? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:55pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:47pm:
Post the article up. I dare you!! Here's another thing- I bet these Afghans came out here as reffos saying they were in danger. Yet they were safe enough to travel back to Afghanistan to arrange a marriage. I hope I am wrong. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:58pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:55pm:
You're wrong most times, Jocko. Now, where does it say that the alleged perpetrators are Muslims? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:00pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
I thought you wouldn't. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:02pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:00pm:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7239395/AFP-claim-Afghan-migrant-kept-Sydney-familys-slave-stranded-Afghanistan.html Now, where does it say that the alleged perpetrators are Muslims? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:03pm
BEAUTY. THANKS PECCA. HOW GUYS, CHECK OUT THE BURQA!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:06pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:03pm:
The alleged perpetrators are wearing burkas? Are you sure, Jocko? Now, where does it say that the alleged perpetrators are Muslims? I've asked you nicely. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:06pm:
The mother is. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:09pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:07pm:
I've read the story, and it doesn't say that anywhere. However, for the sake of the argument, let's say that they're all fully paid-up, card-carrying Muslims. And? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:09pm:
Well it may be a motivation for their actions because passages of the Koran allow for slavery. Just like how some skinheads are motivated by Mein Kampf ?? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:17pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:15pm:
And? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
I've finished. That's it. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:24pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:20pm:
Oh. Well, that was quick, and not very satisfying. Then again, I suppose you hear that a lot. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:30pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:24pm:
bringing sex into the discussion with a male. that's a bit gay. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 15th, 2019 at 4:51pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:36pm:
And you, I think, would be right - a patriarchal system engrained in the culture of the Middle East and Central Asia - a traditional cultural system that predates religion, one that traverses Buddhists in Mongolia and Nepal, Hindus in India and Muslims (hypothetically) in Afghanistan. It's not Islamic. Amongst Muslims, you see a diversity of attitudes towards women, from Turks and Kurds to Saudis and Pashtuns. Some tribes have such fixed beliefs about gender, they will happily kill their daughters and sisters to save what they see as their honour. This happens in India and Nepal just as it does in Pakistan. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:14pm
Muhammad created an oppressive monoculture out of what was previously a multicultural society. I can't see the Arab pagans treating women worse than under Muhammad. Even Muhammad's favourite child bride complained that Muslim women suffer the most.
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by freediver on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 8:33am:
Why don't you ask them instead of me Greg, and speak for yourself instead of slithering away every time. greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 9:01am:
Greg is your logic here inspired by Islam? How do you get from religion "usually" has nothing to do with slavery to telling everyone that religion is irrelevant in this particular case? Are you lying, or just confused? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:17pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 3:22pm:
Really? Quote:
Pay up?... bs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_Saudi_Arabia |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Abu on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:24pm Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:17pm:
Good point, Gonads. You proved me wrong. Never trust a Saudi. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by capitosinora on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:51am
Hm don't understand the problem? I've thought that Yobbos convicts and Muslims are perfect match.
;D |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:55am capitosinora wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:51am:
What has that comment got to do with 2 men and a woman keeping a slave? |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:47pm
Every true believer should have a keffir as slave..... it is written!!
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:49pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:55am:
Two and a Half Men And a Slave? Is this an offshoot of that dreary, endless Charlie Sheen thing? Carlos Estevez - Sheen - get it - a slick.. a greaser.. like his dad Martino Estevez....Martin Sheen the slick greaser... Sad, innit, the way Hollywood can be nasty underneath. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 17th, 2019 at 10:50pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 5:24pm:
Feminist religion of peace, innit? And nowhere more evident than is Saudi Arabia, where the heads roll free... |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by capitosinora on Jul 18th, 2019 at 1:55pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 17th, 2019 at 11:55am:
They both came in Aussieland as slaves. |
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Title: Re: Muslims keeping a slave in Western Sydney Post by Gnads on Jul 19th, 2019 at 2:46pm capitosinora wrote on Jul 18th, 2019 at 1:55pm:
You're talking through your southern gate again. ::) |
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