I wonder what would happen if we tried to ban aborigines from Bondi.

High Court to determine Aboriginal right to exclude public from popular camping beaches

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-27/legal-fight-for-beaches-in-high-court/11245540

Many Australians regard the beach as a place that belongs to everyone, where no-one can be excluded. But the truth of that notion is on its way to be tested by the High Court.

But that decision is being appealed in the High Court by the Federal and WA Governments, and the outcome will be the final word on whether native title can trump public access on an Australian beach.

The High Court is expected to hear the appeal later this year.

Time for change

CEO of the Kimberley Land Council (KLC) Nolan Hunter said the idea that the beach belongs to no-one was a hangover from terra nullius and our colonial history of not recognising Aboriginal ownership of land.

"This is about how the people should not take it for granted that Aboriginal people are just here to be abused, or taken advantage of, or dispossessed," Mr Hunter said.

"It doesn't make it right that people's access to beaches are far greater than people's access to be recognised as the people for the land that they've been connected to for thousands of years."

Mr Hunter hoped a growing understanding of Indigenous connection to country would help avoid this issue becoming an ugly fight between Aboriginal people and the general public.

"The whole point of recognising native title is that people have the ability to make decisions for their land," he said.

"You can't on the one hand say yes we recognise that you have exclusive possession native title, but it doesn't mean anything because anybody should be able to go there."

Preserving public access

The Federal Court finally determined exclusive possession last year over a 40-kilometre stretch of coast from Willie Creek, north of Broome, to Coulomb Point, 26 years after the first claim was made.

The initial determination also included public access rights to the beaches alongside the traditional owners' exclusive possession.

But the legal basis for this public access was appealed by the Bindunbur and Jabirr Jabirr/Ngumbarl traditional owners, and in December 2018 the Full Federal Court upheld that appeal and removed the right of public access to beaches, waterways, marshes, and riverbanks.

Although this stretch of coast is a popular camping and fishing destination used by Broome locals and squadrons of visiting caravaners and four-wheel drivers, this access had no legal basis such as being gazetted for recreational or conservation purposes.

Last week the High Court granted leave to the Federal and WA Governments to appeal the Federal Court's decision to remove public access rights to this area.

The Attorney-General's office declined to be interviewed about this appeal, but provided a statement to the ABC.

"We are arguing in support of the access clause being consistent with provisions in the Native Title Act which allows governments to confirm existing ability of the public to access and enjoy waterways and coastal areas," the statement read in part.

The WA Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Lands, Ben Wyatt, also declined to be interviewed on this issue, but also provided a statement.

"The state always seeks to maintain public access rights to beaches and waterways as a part of determinations of native title," the statement read in part.

"We also need to ensure that Aboriginal interest holders who are not native title holders also have their rights of access to these public places protected."

Is existing beach access a legal right?

The High Court's decision about the public's right to access the beach will come down to one section of the Native Title Act, and what is meant by public access, according to president of the WA Law Society and native title expert Greg McIntyre.

"It says a law of the Commonwealth, a state or a territory can confirm any existing public access to and enjoyment of waterways, coastal waters, beaches," Mr McIntyre said.

"Public access is not a very often used legal term, and whether it overcomes the right of exclusive possession is, I think, what they're wanting to test in this appeal."

He doubts that public access will trump exclusive possession in this case because of the lack of a legal basis.

Mr McIntyre said the idea that this could set a precedent for widespread banning of the public from beaches was not likely.

"Theoretically it's possible for native title to exist on beaches because they aren't generally privately owned," he said.

But the requirement of the Native Title Act to demonstrate ongoing connection of a continuous cultural tradition often prevents native title being granted in the first place.

Even if the High Court upholds the exclusive possession in the case of the beaches north of Broome, it remains to be seen how traditional owners may use that right.

"It depends upon the attitude of the title holders as to whether they're going to exercise those rights," Mr McIntyre said.

Mr Hunter said it remained to be seen how traditional owners will use their right to exclude the public from the beaches north of Broome, should the High Court find in their favour.

The KLC website suggests the implementation of visitor permits and the establishment of Indigenous ranger groups are possible outcomes.

This is about how the people should not take it for granted that Aboriginal people are just here to be abused, or taken advantage of, or dispossessed.

So it's all right for an Aboriginal grievance group to dispossess or take advantage or abuse... but not right for anyone else?  Could that be because they have been granted Accredited Victim Status and thus derive 'rights' held by nobody else??

Time to say no - buggar off and share you greedy children... talk about bringing your own group into disrepute...

"Mr Hunter hoped a growing understanding of Indigenous connection to country would help avoid this issue becoming an ugly fight between Aboriginal people and the general public."

Bit late there, isn't he?  His lot have already started the fight... now they may reap the whirlwind...

Give the Abbos an inch and they take a mile.

Abbos are racist but they don't mind collecting all the social security money from white fellas.

How can anybody own a beach? Most of a beach is  inter tidal zone which belongs to the sea. The abo stuff is starting to get ridiculous.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:02am:

Give the Abbos an inch and they take a mile. Abbos are racist but they don't mind collecting all the social security money from white fellas.

That diff'runt, Bro - dey got dat  'ditional raght over dat rent money dere.... monetary secred saght .... pay dat rent an' be 'appy we only take what we want from you, Honkey .... one way or d'udda...

Ah git da gu'ment t' declare 'im a secred saght... Dead Falcon Easy!!

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

How can anybody own a beach? Most of a beach is  inter tidal zone which belongs to the sea. The abo stuff is starting to get ridiculous.

What are they going to do there that anybody else doesn't do?  Camp and fish?  Attract salties who want brekkie off their kids?  Will they use wharte man's tinnies to fish - or traditional spears?  Humpy in the dunes or a nice tent?  'Ey, Errol - you bring some han' bags an' a woman - we have a party!

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

How can anybody own a beach? Most of a beach is  inter tidal zone which belongs to the sea. The abo stuff is starting to get ridiculous.

The Maoris did the same shite in New Zealand.

Mt Eden in Auckland was a major tourist destination.
It provides magnificent views all over Auckland & the harbor.
You used to be allowed to drive to the top
where there is a large car park.

Then the Maoris decided it was a sacred site and now you have to park
your car below the peak and do an agonising walk to the top
which anyone older than 35 would find very difficult to do.
I'm surprised that older people haven't had heart attacks trying.
Maybe they have and it's all been hushed up?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:12am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 30th, 2019 at 11:05am: How can anybody own a beach? Most of a beach is  inter tidal zone which belongs to the sea. The abo stuff is starting to get ridiculous. What are they going to do there that anybody else doesn't do?  Camp and fish?  Attract salties who want brekkie off their kids?  Will they use wharte man's tinnies to fish - or traditional spears?  Humpy in the dunes or a nice tent?  'Ey, Errol - you bring some han' bags an' a woman - we have a party!

They don't want  whitey hanging around. That's what I think it's all about. apartheid.

Just the parasites trying, yet again, to make justification for the 30 billion dollars we throw at the worthless creatures every year.

An abbo went into centafink one day
He said "I'm looking for a job"
The centafink worker scanned the area looking for cameras.
"What skills do you have" She asks.
"I can drive, says the abbo"

The centafink worker scanned the papers on her desk, she said
" I have one here for a driver, $100.000.00 a year 3 days a week with free accomodation"
The abbos eyes light up.
"Your kidding" he says

"Well you started it" Said the centalink worker.

Isn't Africa for Black people 'only'?

I accepted Goodsey into  my mob and tribal lands (NoBo) so why can't that mob allow a few whites on their beach,

plenty of racist bitches beaches here

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:18pm:

plenty of racist bitches beaches here

... and all on the side of the perceived wisdom on any issue....  and no way inclusive of any other position ...

Be nice to have an open forum where all views are valued equally..... not just feminist, Aboriginal, ethnic, certain religious, gay alphabet etc .....

Be nice to have a differing view treated as an equal, don' cha think?  You first ......

Yeah, mate - Koons, Mussos, Feminos, Woggos - they're all racist, mate.... difference between an advanced culture and their way of seeing things is ..... they don't even see it...

None so blind... like any seriously mentally ill person, they have no concept of anything or anyone else....

How about we give the entire coastline to the Koons on demand - including your house etc... mate???

Betchas the NT Niqqers grab the land and then demand a payment for anyone else to use it... while they go for free...  Christ, you're dumb ....

John Smith wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 8:18pm:

plenty of racist bitches beaches here

Where is here and who are you calling a bitch?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 10:39pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2019 at 8:18pm: plenty of racist bitches beaches here ... and all on the side of the perceived wisdom on any issue....  and no way inclusive of any other position ... Be nice to have an open forum where all views are valued equally..... not just feminist, Aboriginal, ethnic, certain religious, gay alphabet etc ..... Be nice to have a differing view treated as an equal, don' cha think?  You first ......

Smith is a waste of skin. Ignore the fool.


This aboriginal stuff is getting out of control.

If they close the beach....white man close the bank that feeds them. They either work or go and live on the beach they so dearly want us to stay away from. TBH I am sick to death of abos claiming this claiming that etc etc. It is a free country that costs a fortune to live in. I can see this going the way most areas I  Australia are going. Pay the abo for the privilege to see it. Well screw them. Vote with your wallets and stay away from abo land. But I do believe if it goes down that road then abo stay in abo reserve and white man continue living.

Should never have said sorry to these c#$ts. Fkkk you k'rudd

Captain Caveman wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 4:35am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 30th, 2019 at 10:39pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 30th, 2019 at 8:18pm: plenty of racist bitches beaches here ... and all on the side of the perceived wisdom on any issue....  and no way inclusive of any other position ... Be nice to have an open forum where all views are valued equally..... not just feminist, Aboriginal, ethnic, certain religious, gay alphabet etc ..... Be nice to have a differing view treated as an equal, don' cha think?  You first ...... Smith is a waste of skin. Ignore the fool. This aboriginal stuff is getting out of control. If they close the beach....white man close the bank that feeds them. They either work or go and live on the beach they so dearly want us to stay away from. TBH I am sick to death of abos claiming this claiming that etc etc. It is a free country that costs a fortune to live in. I can see this going the way most areas I  Australia are going. Pay the abo for the privilege to see it. Well screw them. Vote with your wallets and stay away from abo land. But I do believe if it goes down that road then abo stay in abo reserve and white man continue living. Should never have said sorry to these c#$ts. Fkkk you k'rudd

Being an abbo is akin to a free ride on the public purse for life.
6% of abbos work,
That's quite an achievement for a collection of parasites.

It's time to get them to stand on their own two feet..
Cut off the tit, and let them succeed or fail as a race, by their own volition.
We are in the 21st century, how about  after 200 years, they learn to be a contributing group.

Spoiling a retarded child only gets you one thing
A spoilt retarded child

[OP]

They only see [appreciate] their own interests and their own rights.

They are the REAL racists.




Merit [regardless of race or culture],      doesn't get a 'place', or 'a look in', in any of their racist and culturally exclusive 'OUR rights' considerations, of the many indigenous political activists in this country.

exclusive = = excluding or not admitting other things.



ARGUMENT;
We ['white fellas'], are obligated, in the law of this land to treat all Australians equally before the law.


But many members of their race [which they will almost 'militantly' identify with],
will often view ALL white MEN and all WHITE AUTHORITY [i.e. the law of the land], as an enemy, to be fought against and defeated.

Is that a harsh assessment ?




IMAGE.....
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/01/29/01/48B001A000000578-5323383-image-a-11_1517188160550.jpg

"The 24-year-old - who has been criticised for working for government-funded organisations - said she hoped Australia 'f***ing burns to the ground' "


There, is      a racist beach      [above] !!!


Yadda said...
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1556974952/49#49

do we know who exactly has dreamed this one up?..


I would like to see their faces... ::) ::)

we [whites] appear to be the enemy...


they are biting the hand that feeds them. :(

what next! I wonder?

"What has WHITE Australia ever done for us!"
02 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvPbj9NX0zc

The Aboriginal right to beaches is historic and precedes the existence of white governments in Australia.

The Supreme court will find in favor of the Aboriginals as the lower court has done.

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 11:05am:

How can anybody own a beach? Most of a beach is  inter tidal zone which belongs to the sea. The abo stuff is starting to get ridiculous.

Please look up the Blue Mud Bay decision.
https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/land/blue-mud-bay-high-court-decision

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/IndigLawB/2008/27.html

http://www.hcourt.gov.au/assets/publications/judgment-summaries/2008/hca29-2008-07-30.pdf

I was emailing a bloke I know who used to work in Customs Patrols in the NT & WA ... having been based in Perth, Broome & Darwin in his career.

We were speaking of access to remote Aboriginal communities and policing ... and in the conversation it turned to a barge landing for the community of Wadeye via Sandfly Creek.

I said it looked as if access would only be made at high tide ... to which he replied that they would anchor downstream and come up in a 14ft tender .... and at low tide all he could see in the mud were old outboard motors.


Quote:

His quote: We used to anchor up the creek and go into the landing by 14 foot tender. I never saw any barges there and all I saw at low tide were many outboards laying in the mud where they had knocked a prop off and they just dumped the motor and were given new ones. I cant remember the barges but they must have gone in.

Looking after the inter tidal zone land too ey?  ;D

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 12:09pm:

The Aboriginal right to beaches is historic and precedes the existence of white governments in Australia. The Supreme court will find in favor of the Aboriginals as the lower court has done.

Yeah but not with whitemans guns, aluminium spears, boats, outboards & mono nets.

How about that use be removed?  ::)

Valkie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 5:17am:

6% of abbos work,

Not only is this a complete lie, not one person challenged you on it.

Prepared to believe it or let it slip through for lack of caring?

Or just nobody reads your posts?

I know, right. No way is it that high.

In fact only 4% work fulltime and only during non-walkabout season.

People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time.

While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups.

https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:01pm:

People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument

They are not good statistics, walkabouts should be banned.

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 6:58pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 5:17am: 6% of abbos work, Not only is this a complete lie, not one person challenged you on it. Prepared to believe it or let it slip through for lack of caring? Or just nobody reads your posts?

I just assumed everyone knew that if Valkie posted it, it was a load of crap.

Johnnie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:05pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:01pm: People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument They are not good statistics, walkabouts should be banned.

What the statistics show is that less than half have jobs. Many of those jobs are "quota" jobs where they are not expected to perform very well but look good for the stats.

Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ......

Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else.

"Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-)

rhino wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:36pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:05pm: mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:01pm: People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument They are not good statistics, walkabouts should be banned. What the statistics show is that less than half have jobs. Many of those jobs are "quota" jobs where they are not expected to perform very well but look good for the stats.

Valkie is closer to the mark in real terms than the statistics show, lazy bums.

rhino wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:36pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:05pm: mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:01pm: People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument They are not good statistics, walkabouts should be banned. What the statistics show is that less than half have jobs. Many of those jobs are "quota" jobs where they are not expected to perform very well but look good for the stats.

What the statistics show is that the full time employment rate isn't 5%.

A fact you didn't jump on, of course. Because it nastily feeds your racist rhetoric.

Johnnie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:44pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:36pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:05pm: mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:01pm: People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument They are not good statistics, walkabouts should be banned. What the statistics show is that less than half have jobs. Many of those jobs are "quota" jobs where they are not expected to perform very well but look good for the stats. Valkie is closer to the mark in real terms than the statistics show, lazy bums.

Maths not your strong suit?

Do you even have a strong suit?

rhino wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:36pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:05pm: mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:01pm: People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument They are not good statistics, walkabouts should be banned. What the statistics show is that less than half have jobs. Many of those jobs are "quota" jobs where they are not expected to perform very well but look good for the stats.

Got a really nice young Aboriginal bloke working in the deli at the local supermarket... he's a lovely guy and employed full-time.....

Many of these 'jobs' (unlike his) are made-up Aboriginal specific budget fillers - like that 'burn the joint down' chick had in Melbadishu .... not a 'job' at all - just another way of giving a hand-out ... you know... kind of 'paying the rent'....

Public service and quasi public service jobs have long ago become job placement sites for women, Aboriginals and ethnics .... all in the interests of equality, of course....   ::)  ::)  ::)

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:43pm:

Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation,

nah ... the courts need to throw this case out.

Are you from the "where the FUKAMI" tribe?

John Smith wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, nah ... the courts need to throw this case out.

They do - but will they?  I can see the wailing and rending of hair and ash on their robes when they consider how poor and downtrodden the applicants are - and thus there will be no need to find on facts.... just on emotion and not wanting to 'look bad' by putting the Schwarzeren in their place... saying NO to a special interest group with accredited victimhood status is a no-no these days...

They've already got native title to that coastline - they just want to exclude everyone else.... just like Ayers Rock, soon Mount Warning, and so forth... so instead of the odd tourist pissing in the water hole, they can piss in the waterhole in their traditional way......

The ex said today - fine - give it to 'em - but they are also banned from all Whartey things... they can hunt and fish with their spears and their dugout canoes as much as they like.... no shops, no roads, no money, no cars, no plane flights, no healthcare  .......

Then the UN could get stuck into 'racist Australia' for allowing their huge infant mortality rate and huge rate of early death, and vastly lower life expectancy, rate of relationship violence (at least they'll be free of drugs and booze!!) etc... for 'abandoning' them ... as they themselves demand ...

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:47pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:44pm: rhino wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:36pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:05pm: mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:01pm: People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument They are not good statistics, walkabouts should be banned. What the statistics show is that less than half have jobs. Many of those jobs are "quota" jobs where they are not expected to perform very well but look good for the stats. Valkie is closer to the mark in real terms than the statistics show, lazy bums. Maths not your strong suit? Do you even have a strong suit?

The statistics you posted are appalling, wouldn't you agree?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:57pm:

but will they?

yes


Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:57pm:

soon Mount Warning, and so forth.

bullshit


stick to the topic and leave the hysteria for your anti women threads

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:43pm:

Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-)

The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong.

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:01pm:

People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument

Mothra why are you trying to blame aborigines?

mothra wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:45pm:

rhino wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:36pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:05pm: mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:01pm: People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument They are not good statistics, walkabouts should be banned. What the statistics show is that less than half have jobs. Many of those jobs are "quota" jobs where they are not expected to perform very well but look good for the stats. What the statistics show is that the full time employment rate isn't 5%. A fact you didn't jump on, of course. Because it nastily feeds your racist rhetoric.

the facts speak for themselves sweetheart, and i never indulge in racist rhetoric. Good on you for making that up though in lieu of any valid argument..

John Smith wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 8:59pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:57pm: but will they? yes Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:57pm: soon Mount Warning, and so forth. bullshit stick to the topic and leave the hysteria for your anti women threads

Fixed for ya.....

rhino wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:57pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:45pm: rhino wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:36pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:05pm: mothra wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:01pm: People who usually work 35 hours or more per week are considered to be working full-time. In 2016, a quarter (25%) of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people aged 15 years and over were working full-time, and a further 14 per cent were working part-time. While Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander males (44%) were only slightly more likely than females (41%) to be employed, females were much more likely to be in part-time work across all age groups. https://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/Abs@.Nsf/7d12b0f6763c78caca257061001cc588/5f17e6c26744e1d1ca25823800728282!OpenDocument They are not good statistics, walkabouts should be banned. What the statistics show is that less than half have jobs. Many of those jobs are "quota" jobs where they are not expected to perform very well but look good for the stats. What the statistics show is that the full time employment rate isn't 5%. A fact you didn't jump on, of course. Because it nastily feeds your racist rhetoric. the facts speak for themselves sweetheart, and i never indulge in racist rhetoric. Good on you for making that up though in lieu of any valid argument..

It's 'unconscious racism' like when you cheer an Aboriginal football player for scoring a try or kicking a goal .... you only do so to cover over your deeply-held hatred of and contempt for Aboriginals and to try to look like a decent human being....

That's the latest reasoning from the human rights commission - another one of those overpaid and unwarranted government welfare expenditures ... plenty of cash to throw at that kind of sh1t and then ignore the dire poverty of the unemployed....

Talk about elitism in a so-called egalitarian society...   ;D  8-)

freediver wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 9:54pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong.

That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling....

At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much.....

I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ...

The Boongs own the beaches,, they had better be prepared to defend them.

Johnnie wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 11:48pm:

The Boongs own the beaches,, they had better be prepared to defend them.

Any good breaks in the surf up that way?  Look, son - you either surf - or you fight!

But that's Ngunnawalla's point....

Hell - why didn't you say so?  We'll go in and clear 'em out for ya ....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqtehtSB0LI

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 12:08am:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:48pm: The Boongs own the beaches,, they had better be prepared to defend them. Any good breaks in the surf up that way?  Look, son - you either surf - or you fight! But that's Ngunnawalla's point.... Hell - why didn't you say so?  We'll go in and clear 'em out for ya .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqtehtSB0LI

Settle down son, this is not a war zone.

Aboriginal employment figures are all bull shite.

Much like the unemployment stats, they are all fiddled.

But with abbos, it's all about hiding the fact that they are lazy and useless.

How many of you actually WORK with an abbo?
How many of you have seen more than one or perhaps two actually working a normal job?

Much of the "work" they have is token work.
Like the guy on the central coast who's "job" is to watch over a rock to make sure it's not damaged because some abbo scratched it a few years ago.
Or the ones who are cultural guides, that "work" only when someone wants to build something.

In Forster, on the north coast, there are several communities of aboriginals.
They live in free housing not 2 minutes walk from the shopping centres.
In 20 years of going there for holidays, I have never seen even one aboriginal warning there.

The same goes in Tarde and Kempsey
Lots of abbos, in free housing, a stones throw from shopping and industrial areas.
But never an abbo working in any of them.

The honest figures I have seen
Full time normal employment was less than 6% of aboriginals.
And that is probably inflated.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1^st, 2019 at 11:33pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ...

It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them.

The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet.

We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo.

freediver wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 6:20am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo.

Oh good. Gulags in this thread.

It's all happening on Ozpol.

mothra wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 6:25am:

freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol.

Flippant no good 'do-gooder' bint.

mothra wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 6:25am:

Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol.

You seriously miss the point about there being zero difference between imposed gulags and self-imposed gulags, and about imposed Apartheid and self-imposed Apartheid?

Grasshopper - I sometimes despair of you... broaden your education and reasoning.... I retain hope for you yet...

Welcome to Noweto - North West Territory of The Originals ...... all Kaffirs welcome.... but no Wharte influence including money and shopping and grog.. they might go clear if they get their own stretch of land removed from drugs, alcohol and MacFoods ....instead of a stretch inside....

Johnnie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 12:25am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 12:08am: Johnnie wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:48pm: The Boongs own the beaches,, they had better be prepared to defend them. Any good breaks in the surf up that way?  Look, son - you either surf - or you fight! But that's Ngunnawalla's point.... Hell - why didn't you say so?  We'll go in and clear 'em out for ya .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqtehtSB0LI Settle down son, this is not a war zone.

Not yet.... soon someone will be Whistling Dixie....  8-)

mothra wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 6:25am:

freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol.

Do you disagree with what I said Mothra?

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:42am:

mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:25am: freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol. Do you disagree with what I said Mothra?

Why do you allow doxxers to thrive under your protection on your forum?

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:59am:

freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:42am: mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:25am: freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol. Do you disagree with what I said Mothra? Why do you allow doxxers to thrive under your protection on your forum?

Do you think Aussie's ineffective attempts at doxxing people is more important than mistreatment of children in remote communities?

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:02am:

mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:59am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:42am: mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:25am: freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol. Do you disagree with what I said Mothra? Why do you allow doxxers to thrive under your protection on your forum? Do you think Aussie's ineffective attempts at doxxing people is more important than mistreatment of children in remote communities?

Ahh, victim blaming.

I think that answers all your questions, no?

You are confused Mothra. Do you see children with venereal diseases as some kind of pawn in your petty games?

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:05am:

You are confused Mothra. Do you see children with venereal diseases as some kind of pawn in your petty games?

No. That's you. You've built two unsafe forums with cultures of bullying  around it.

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:07am:

freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:05am: You are confused Mothra. Do you see children with venereal diseases as some kind of pawn in your petty games? No. That's you. You've built two unsafe forums with cultures of bullying  around it.

And this is more important to you than children being raped?

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:09am:

mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:07am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:05am: You are confused Mothra. Do you see children with venereal diseases as some kind of pawn in your petty games? No. That's you. You've built two unsafe forums with cultures of bullying  around it. And this is more important to you than children being raped?

You're the one using a case of land rights to demonise the Aboriginal people, not me.

I'm not playing. I find you particularly useless to converse with.

I would like to know why you encourage a culture of bullying and support, nurture and protect doxxers on your forum though.

And while i'm at it, why do you ban people for talking back, then carry on conversations with them in which they can't answer? Is it so you look like you've made an unassailable point?

I think it is.

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:13am:

freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:09am: mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:07am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:05am: You are confused Mothra. Do you see children with venereal diseases as some kind of pawn in your petty games? No. That's you. You've built two unsafe forums with cultures of bullying  around it. And this is more important to you than children being raped? You're the one using a case of land rights to demonise the Aboriginal people, not me. I'm not playing. I find you particularly useless to converse with. I would like to know why you encourage a culture of bullying and support, nurture and protect doxxers on your forum though. And while i'm at it, why do you ban people for talking back, then carry on conversations with them in which they can't answer? Is it so you look like you've made an unassailable point? I think it is.

I am not demonising aboriginal people. I am demonising mini communist dictatorships that result in children being raped in remote communities. But you seem to think that your petty games are so much more important than the plight of those children that you mock their plight and use them as pawns. Do you actually care about them Mothra, or do you only care about virtue signalling?

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:13am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:09am: mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:07am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:05am: You are confused Mothra. Do you see children with venereal diseases as some kind of pawn in your petty games? No. That's you. You've built two unsafe forums with cultures of bullying  around it. And this is more important to you than children being raped? You're the one using a case of land rights to demonise the Aboriginal people, not me. I'm not playing. I find you particularly useless to converse with. I would like to know why you encourage a culture of bullying and support, nurture and protect doxxers on your forum though. And while i'm at it, why do you ban people for talking back, then carry on conversations with them in which they can't answer? Is it so you look like you've made an unassailable point? I think it is. I am not demonising aboriginal people. I am demonising mini communist dictatorships that result in children being raped in remote communities. But you seem to think that your petty games are so much more important than the plight of those children that you mock their plight and use them as pawns. Do you actually care about them Mothra, or do you only care about virtue signalling?

Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags.

Builr by communists now, i see.

You are totally the one using abused children as pawns. As is the custom on your forum.

Speaking of your forum, why do you allow, nurture and protect doxxing on your forums?

Why do you allow and encourage a culture of bullying?

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:26am:

freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:22am: mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:13am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:09am: mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:07am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:05am: You are confused Mothra. Do you see children with venereal diseases as some kind of pawn in your petty games? No. That's you. You've built two unsafe forums with cultures of bullying  around it. And this is more important to you than children being raped? You're the one using a case of land rights to demonise the Aboriginal people, not me. I'm not playing. I find you particularly useless to converse with. I would like to know why you encourage a culture of bullying and support, nurture and protect doxxers on your forum though. And while i'm at it, why do you ban people for talking back, then carry on conversations with them in which they can't answer? Is it so you look like you've made an unassailable point? I think it is. I am not demonising aboriginal people. I am demonising mini communist dictatorships that result in children being raped in remote communities. But you seem to think that your petty games are so much more important than the plight of those children that you mock their plight and use them as pawns. Do you actually care about them Mothra, or do you only care about virtue signalling? Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. You are totally the one using abused children as pawns. As is the custom on your forum. Speaking of your forum, why do you allow, nurture and protect doxxing on your forums? Why do you allow and encourage a culture of bullying?

I have done none of those things Mothra. You are hysterically claiming victimhood on behalf of aboriginal people to create a smokescreen for your ongoing support for child rape.

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:45am:

mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:26am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:22am: mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:13am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:09am: mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:07am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:05am: You are confused Mothra. Do you see children with venereal diseases as some kind of pawn in your petty games? No. That's you. You've built two unsafe forums with cultures of bullying  around it. And this is more important to you than children being raped? You're the one using a case of land rights to demonise the Aboriginal people, not me. I'm not playing. I find you particularly useless to converse with. I would like to know why you encourage a culture of bullying and support, nurture and protect doxxers on your forum though. And while i'm at it, why do you ban people for talking back, then carry on conversations with them in which they can't answer? Is it so you look like you've made an unassailable point? I think it is. I am not demonising aboriginal people. I am demonising mini communist dictatorships that result in children being raped in remote communities. But you seem to think that your petty games are so much more important than the plight of those children that you mock their plight and use them as pawns. Do you actually care about them Mothra, or do you only care about virtue signalling? Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. You are totally the one using abused children as pawns. As is the custom on your forum. Speaking of your forum, why do you allow, nurture and protect doxxing on your forums? Why do you allow and encourage a culture of bullying? I have done none of those things Mothra. You are hysterically claiming victimhood on behalf of aboriginal people to create a smokescreen for your ongoing support for child rape.

You do all of those things repeatedly.

And claiming i support child rape because i've got you in a corner is a perfect illustration of the kind of form you allow, nurture, encourage and partake in on your forums.

Perhaps you could demonstrate that your concern for these children extends beyond using them as pawns in your virtue signalling antics by giving a straight answer.


mothra wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2019 at 6:25am:

freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol.

Do you disagree with what I said Mothra?

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:50am:

Perhaps you could demonstrate that your concern for these children extends beyond using them as pawns in your virtue signalling antics by giving a straight answer. mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:25am: freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol. Do you disagree with what I said Mothra?

I'm not playing. I find you particularly useless to converse with.

I would like to know why you encourage a culture of bullying and support, nurture and protect doxxers on your forum though.

And while i'm at it, why do you ban people for talking back, then carry on conversations with them in which they can't answer? Is it so you look like you've made an unassailable point?

I think it is.               c

So I was right? You don't actually care about these children being raped? At least, not enough to put honesty before virtue signalling?

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:56am:

So I was right? You don't actually care about these children being raped? At least, not enough to put honesty before virtue signalling?

I've not seen you be right about anything. I know you're encouraged by the mouth breathers that agree with you but the rest of us take it as confirmation.

Is that why you've deliberately dumbed down this forum? To make yourself feel bright?

Anyway, i would like to know why you encourage a culture of bullying and support, nurture and protect doxxers on your forum though.

And while i'm at it, why do you ban people for talking back, then carry on conversations with them in which they can't answer? Is it so you look like you've made an unassailable point?

I think it is.     

Piss off Mothra, you fraud.

You stand by and cheer when your team pulls out the pedo accusations and even create a sock to join in.

You're a fake and a fraud.

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:06am:

Piss off Mothra, you fraud. You stand by and cheer when your team pulls out the pedo accusations and even create a sock to join in. You're a fake and a fraud.

Speaking of dumb bullies.

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I've not seen you be right about anything

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Let's give this another go then Mothra. You've leveled all sorts of accusations against me, none of which have anything to do with what I actually said.


freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:50am:

Perhaps you could demonstrate that your concern for these children extends beyond using them as pawns in your virtue signalling antics by giving a straight answer. mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:25am: freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol. Do you disagree with what I said Mothra?

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:06am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:06am: Piss off Mothra, you fraud. You stand by and cheer when your team pulls out the pedo accusations and even create a sock to join in. You're a fake and a fraud. Speaking of dumb bullies.

Yet I don't dox and I don't accuse people of being rapists or pedos like you do.

You're a fake and a fraud and scum.

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 9:54am:

freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 9:50am: Perhaps you could demonstrate that your concern for these children extends beyond using them as pawns in your virtue signalling antics by giving a straight answer. mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:25am: freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol. Do you disagree with what I said Mothra? I'm not playing. I find you particularly useless to converse with. I would like to know why you encourage a culture of bullying and support, nurture and protect doxxers on your forum though. And while i'm at it, why do you ban people for talking back, then carry on conversations with them in which they can't answer? Is it so you look like you've made an unassailable point? I think it is.               c

Why do you create socks while you're banned and accuse people of rape, Mothra?

Shoo Gordy. Don;t you an an Indian or Muslim behaving badly to dog whistle about?

Or perhaps you'd like to join in while a rape victim is taunted? That always gives you a smile. You seem to be rather unsettled today.

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:12am:

Why do you create socks while you're banned and accuse people of rape, Mothra?

I don't. Why do you, Ramp7?

But you are playing Mothra. For example:


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Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see.

Now, instead of making stuff up, can you demonstrate that you actually care about children being raped by being honest about whether you disagree with anything I actually said?

You're really ethical Mothra, defending a kid pinner and a clit wonderer, and accusing people of rape.

Fake and a fraud.

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

But you are playing Mothra. For example: Quote: Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. Now, instead of making stuff up, can you demonstrate that you actually care about children being raped by being honest about whether you disagree with anything I actually said?

Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags.

Builr by communists now, i see.

You are totally the one using abused children as pawns. As is the custom on your forum.

Speaking of your forum, why do you allow, nurture and protect doxxing on your forums?

Why do you allow and encourage a culture of bullying?

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

But you are playing Mothra. For example: Quote: Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. Now, instead of making stuff up, can you demonstrate that you actually care about children being raped by being honest about whether you disagree with anything I actually said?

Anyone who makes a sock to accuse people of rape and paedophilia couldn't possibly give a toss about kids.

Ignore the fake.

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:14am:

You're really ethical Mothra, defending a kid pinner and a clit wonderer, and accusing people of rape. Fake and a fraud.

All you actually do with your life is use the abuse of women and children to push your grubby agenda.

You're several feet beneath contempt.

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:16am:

freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:14am: But you are playing Mothra. For example: Quote: Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. Now, instead of making stuff up, can you demonstrate that you actually care about children being raped by being honest about whether you disagree with anything I actually said? Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. You are totally the one using abused children as pawns. As is the custom on your forum. Speaking of your forum, why do you allow, nurture and protect doxxing on your forums? Why do you allow and encourage a culture of bullying? E

Why do you create socks to accuse people of rape and paedophilia?

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:17am:

freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:14am: But you are playing Mothra. For example: Quote: Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. Now, instead of making stuff up, can you demonstrate that you actually care about children being raped by being honest about whether you disagree with anything I actually said? Anyone who makes a sock to accuse people of rape and paedophilia couldn't possibly give a toss about kids. Ignore the fake.

All you;ve ever had on me is lies.

Not a single thing else.

Maybe that's why you get so cross?

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:18am:

mothra wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:16am: freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:14am: But you are playing Mothra. For example: Quote: Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. Now, instead of making stuff up, can you demonstrate that you actually care about children being raped by being honest about whether you disagree with anything I actually said? Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. You are totally the one using abused children as pawns. As is the custom on your forum. Speaking of your forum, why do you allow, nurture and protect doxxing on your forums? Why do you allow and encourage a culture of bullying? E Why do you create socks to accuse people of rape and paedophilia?

Liar.

It's all you've got.

Sucksht Mothra, I've outed you as a fake and a fraud here and your rep is dead.

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:20am:

Sucksht Mothra, I've outed you as a fake and a fraud here and your rep is dead.

LOL. Nop you haven't. You've just had a ridiculous little tantrum.

You're pathetic. And a liar.

Gordon seems pleased with himself:


https://media1.tenor.com/images/457249be2eec9dba5c9af1b3f7ebd43b/tenor.gif


Not sure why, though.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:24am:

Gordon seems pleased with himself: https://media1.tenor.com/images/457249be2eec9dba5c9af1b3f7ebd43b/tenor.gif Not sure why, though.

Low bar.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:24am:

Gordon seems pleased with himself: https://media1.tenor.com/images/457249be2eec9dba5c9af1b3f7ebd43b/tenor.gif Not sure why, though.

Is that all you have, a pic of a fat guy dancing?
Must be time for some pedo accusations from you too.

You've got nothing :)

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 8:59am:

freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 8:42am: mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:25am: freediver wrote on Jul 2nd, 2019 at 6:20am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 11:33pm: freediver wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 9:54pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 1st, 2019 at 8:43pm: Give 'em their 40 km coastline reservation, and ship the bloody lot there and anyone else who is a problem... they can pursue their traditional lifestyle there without interference from Whartey... one day we'll see how many are left ...... Funny how the Originals argued against their former reservations as some kind of gulags - now they demand them ....Apartheidists were never known for their intellect and understanding of reality... just their lack of solid reasoning.. but if our own Schwarzeren want their own gulags without any of the trimmings of Wharte society - give it to 'em and cut the strings on everything else. "Schwarzer!  Raus... RAUS!  On der trains or ve send in der dogs ... you vill be given re-settlement in der Vestland in der Aporiginal Vrei Schaat! .... now RAUS!"   8-) The irony is, gulags is exactly what they turn into. They are, by mandate, collectively owned. Which means they inevitably turn into mini communist dictatorships, with just enough government money flowing in to stop them moving to the city. And in 20 years time we will look at the kids living in filth, drunk parents beating each other, and wonder where it all went wrong. That was the result from a very nicely placed Aboriginal settlement on the Far South Coast (where I came from before up here) - ended up requiring massive intervention to control crime, violence, abuse of children, neglect, substance abuse and domestic violence.  Young kids were being passed around for sex in exchange for drugs .... appalling.... At the same time there were some who worked in clubs and such around the place - and they were first class... but they were Town Aboriginals and not Reservation Aboriginals.... and were accepted as part of the towns..... ONLY those from the reservation, those who demanded the 'separate life' and 'their way' had all those problems - apart from the drunkard's corner in one local park every 'pay day'..... and that was temporary and just part of the scenery and was kind of set aside for them - they never really did much..... I knew some really beaut elders who had the right ideas and had some serious worries about the young ones ... It's called learned helplessness. The people pushing this nonsense are doing the same thing as the stolen wages and stolen children. They are making the same mistake. They are giving aborigines a different legal status based on their race and the assumption that they cannot function in our society as citizens with equal legal status, so white people have to micromanage their lives for them. The aborigines in these gulags have no future. They cannot own the land individually, so none of them have the incentive to do something with it other than go fishing and drink beer. A committee of 150 drunk aborigines on handouts is never going to make a viable living, even if they own a piece of paradise and we spend millions helping them set up a tourism business. It will be another generation lost to alcoholism, abuse, sloth etc, and in 20 years time we will dream up some other scheme to get them out of intergenerational hopelessness by not expecting them to make it in our society, as an equal, on their own two feet. We are putting them in a zoo and wondering why they end up flinging poo. Oh good. Gulags in this thread. It's all happening on Ozpol. Do you disagree with what I said Mothra? Why do you allow doxxers to thrive under your protection on your forum?

Quick! Look over there.  :)

That’s some segue Mothra.  Surely there is a thread in turd sifters where you can demonstrate your solidarity and remain on subject.  ;D

mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:16am:

freediver wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:14am: But you are playing Mothra. For example: Quote: Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. Now, instead of making stuff up, can you demonstrate that you actually care about children being raped by being honest about whether you disagree with anything I actually said? Nope. you're twisting a case of land rights into a full frontal attack on Aboriginal people, who you claim do nothing buut driink beer all day and live in gulags. Builr by communists now, i see. You are totally the one using abused children as pawns. As is the custom on your forum. Speaking of your forum, why do you allow, nurture and protect doxxing on your forums? Why do you allow and encourage a culture of bullying?

Mothra it does not take much twisting to link the land rights issue with alcoholism and abuse.

Do you agree that honesty is a pre-requisite for stamping out child sexual abuse? Or do you think we can solve the problem with virtue signalling and hysterical victimhood mongering?

Noweto - to match the Whartey Proof Fence around Ayers Rock....

Here's a piccie of Noweto's sister city in Zud Afrique ..

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mothra wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:17am:

Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:14am: You're really ethical Mothra, defending a kid pinner and a clit wonderer, and accusing people of rape. Fake and a fraud. All you actually do with your life is use the abuse of women and children to push your grubby agenda. You're several feet beneath contempt.

I sense a two-edged sword in The Force..... sees it this one does not....

Jesus - nobody claimed they all lived in gulags - just that previous attempts at Reservations in the Soweto style became gulags...

Do try to keep up...

As for all of them guzzling beer and all the other problems - each of those specific problem is worse in those communities than in the general community............. along with child abuse, sexual and otherwise, neglect, and venereal disease in children....

Reaching always for the extreme in interpreting what is put before you will not help your case... as for these 'land claims' - what about Whitey's land claims?  You know - the bits bought and paid for and the simple right to enjoy unpurchased land at the beach etc?

Should every national treasure such as Ayers Rock be handed over for the exclusive use of Aboriginals?

Time to call a halt to all this nonsense.... every time their group's population expands under the white man's protection, health services etc - they expect more to cater for their numbers... and the demands never cease....

Right, Jacky-Jacky - you've got 'til the end of the year 2019 to put in a claim which we'll have adjudicated on the basis of all facts and with representation of all interest groups, and that's it!  You wanna sunbake by the sea, so does Whartey... same-same - all citizen equal now, OK?

Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff.

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 3:00pm:

Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff.

I spoke to a Gmod about it at the time.
Now piss off turdo.

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 3:00pm:

Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff.

Lol    ;D

Gordon gets owned, once again.

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:00pm: Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff. I spoke to a Gmod about it at the time. Now piss off turdo.

I don't give a flying fuq who you spoke to.  Put up the name of this sock you allege is Mothra's...or apologise for making false accusations.

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:00pm: Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff. I spoke to a Gmod about it at the time. Now piss off turdo.

and they most likely told you to fuq off ... so fuq off.

freediver wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

Mothra it does not take much twisting to link the land rights issue with alcoholism and abuse.

not in your world anyway. ::)

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 3:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:00pm: Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff. I spoke to a Gmod about it at the time. Now piss off turdo. I don't give a flying fuq who you spoke to.  Put up the name of this sock you allege is Mothra's...or apologise for making false accusations.

Nah, you bleat like a bitch over doxxing but stand by and clap while your turd friends make serious criminal accusations. You're a hypocritical prick of the highest order.

My accusation was confirmed so get fdd you pinner of children.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:00pm: Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff. Lol    ;D Gordon gets owned, once again.

Come on, call me fat, or fat and gay, or a fat gay pedo.
That's your standard.

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:42pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:00pm: Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff. I spoke to a Gmod about it at the time. Now piss off turdo. I don't give a flying fuq who you spoke to.  Put up the name of this sock you allege is Mothra's...or apologise for making false accusations. Nah, you bleat like a bitch over doxxing but stand by and clap while your turd friends make serious criminal accusations. You're a hypocritical prick of the highest order. My accusation was confirmed so get fdd you pinner of children.

1.  Show what serious criminal accusations you are referring to.  Links.  I want to see the actual words.

2.  "Your accusation was confirmed," you say.

Okay.  That means that not only did FD or a GMod disclose private information to you via PM you are NOW disclosing the content of that PM.  I don't believe you.  No GMod (or FD) would trust you and you have just provided proof of exactly why they would not. 

Name the person who did that, or allow them all to be smeared with your revelation.  You do understand that don't you Gordon.  If you fail to name this person whom you say IN PUBLIC gave you this confirmation, the integrity of each of FD and all the GMods is under a cloud of your making.

Ans.......Name this sock you say was Mothra's or be a man and apologise for making the false allegation.

Another thing which is emerging here is that Gordon IS the Hall Monitor of whom Bobby (another Hall Monitor) speaks.

Ok
Virtue signallers.

Go to an aboriginal settlement, I dare you.
Go without a guard or protection, I dare you.

The fact is that aboriginals in Australia have THE HIGHEST RATE OF CHILD RAPE of any demographic in the world.

They have highest unemployment figures in Australia, and that's saying something with muzzos around.

They have the highest substance abuse of any demographic, both drugs and grog.

They destroy housing given to them FOR FREE and then demand more.

They are lazy, greedy, unable to support themselves just like retarded children.

They demand constantly, everything.
Abbo football, paid for by us
Abbo housing, paid for by us
Abbo holidays, paid for by us.
Everything they do, or want to do costs us, because they live off us.

And they are growing in numbers every day.
Eventually, there will be too many to support, then What?

Aussie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 4:32pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 4:17pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:42pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:00pm: Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff. I spoke to a Gmod about it at the time. Now piss off turdo. I don't give a flying fuq who you spoke to.  Put up the name of this sock you allege is Mothra's...or apologise for making false accusations. Nah, you bleat like a bitch over doxxing but stand by and clap while your turd friends make serious criminal accusations. You're a hypocritical prick of the highest order. My accusation was confirmed so get fdd you pinner of children. 1.  Show what serious criminal accusations you are referring to.  Links.  I want to see the actual words. 2.  "Your accusation was confirmed," you say. Okay.  That means that not only did FD or a GMod disclose private information to you via PM you are NOW disclosing the content of that PM.  I don't believe you.  No GMod (or FD) would trust you and you have just provided proof of exactly why they would not.  Name the person who did that, or allow them all to be smeared with your revelation.  You do understand that don't you Gordon.  If you fail to name this person whom you say IN PUBLIC gave you this confirmation, the integrity of each of FD and all the GMods is under a cloud of your making. Ans.......Name this sock you say was Mothra's or be a man and apologise for making the false allegation.

TL DR

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 4:32pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 4:17pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:42pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:00pm: Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff. I spoke to a Gmod about it at the time. Now piss off turdo. I don't give a flying fuq who you spoke to.  Put up the name of this sock you allege is Mothra's...or apologise for making false accusations. Nah, you bleat like a bitch over doxxing but stand by and clap while your turd friends make serious criminal accusations. You're a hypocritical prick of the highest order. My accusation was confirmed so get fdd you pinner of children. 1.  Show what serious criminal accusations you are referring to.  Links.  I want to see the actual words. 2.  "Your accusation was confirmed," you say. Okay.  That means that not only did FD or a GMod disclose private information to you via PM you are NOW disclosing the content of that PM.  I don't believe you.  No GMod (or FD) would trust you and you have just provided proof of exactly why they would not.  Name the person who did that, or allow them all to be smeared with your revelation.  You do understand that don't you Gordon.  If you fail to name this person whom you say IN PUBLIC gave you this confirmation, the integrity of each of FD and all the GMods is under a cloud of your making. Ans.......Name this sock you say was Mothra's or be a man and apologise for making the false allegation. TL DR

Name names Gordon.  Be a man or be known yet again as a big mouthed liar who makes false allegations concerning Mothra, FD/Gmods and some people you reckon have posted allegations of serious criminal misconduct on your part.

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:42pm: Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:30pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:00pm: Gordon...name this sock you allege Mothra created, so I and the GMods and FD can point and laff. I spoke to a Gmod about it at the time. Now piss off turdo. I don't give a flying fuq who you spoke to.  Put up the name of this sock you allege is Mothra's...or apologise for making false accusations. Nah, you bleat like a bitch over doxxing but stand by and clap while your turd friends make serious criminal accusations. You're a hypocritical prick of the highest order. My accusation was confirmed so get fdd you pinner of children.

confirmed by whom?  ;D ;D ;D If it was confimed by a mod it would result in a pemranent ban  ... yet mothras still here. I suspect you're full of poo.

Gordon wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:37am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:24am: Gordon seems pleased with himself: https://media1.tenor.com/images/457249be2eec9dba5c9af1b3f7ebd43b/tenor.gif Not sure why, though. Is that all you have, a pic of a fat guy dancing? Must be time for some pedo accusations from you too. You've got nothing :)

who called you a pedo dopey?

has dopey run away? Poor didums.

freediver wrote on Jun 30^th, 2019 at 9:45am:

I wonder what would happen if we tried to ban aborigines from Bondi.

Maybe the choice should be given to Aborigines: be a fully integrated member of Australian society or be confined to a reservation with no post-1788 instruments of evil invasion.

John Smith wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 5:44pm:

Gordon wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:37am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 10:24am: Gordon seems pleased with himself: https://media1.tenor.com/images/457249be2eec9dba5c9af1b3f7ebd43b/tenor.gif Not sure why, though. Is that all you have, a pic of a fat guy dancing? Must be time for some pedo accusations from you too. You've got nothing :) who called you a pedo dopey?

Nobody.

Paranoid?

Valkie wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 4:47pm:

Ok Virtue signallers. Go to an aboriginal settlement, I dare you. Go without a guard or protection, I dare you. The fact is that aboriginals in Australia have THE HIGHEST RATE OF CHILD RAPE of any demographic in the world. They have highest unemployment figures in Australia, and that's saying something with muzzos around. They have the highest substance abuse of any demographic, both drugs and grog. They destroy housing given to them FOR FREE and then demand more. They are lazy, greedy, unable to support themselves just like retarded children. They demand constantly, everything. Abbo football, paid for by us Abbo housing, paid for by us Abbo holidays, paid for by us. Everything they do, or want to do costs us, because they live off us. And they are growing in numbers every day. Eventually, there will be too many to support, then What?

That's true, Matty, but it might turn out to be a good thing.

After all, would you want to share a beach with them?

Frank wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 6:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 30th, 2019 at 9:45am: I wonder what would happen if we tried to ban aborigines from Bondi. Maybe the choice should be given to Aborigines: be a fully integrated member of Australian society or be confined to a reservation with no post-1788 instruments of evil invasion.

Exactly. And we all know what a fully-integrated member of Australian society is, don't we?

You have to like Danish, no?

What is it that drives some to imagine that a 'land claim' is automatically just, proper, and somehow sacred, and must be granted without question?

Just trying to get back to the issue here...

Might put in a land claim for meself... see how that goes....

And what is wrong about allowing free access to open and unsettled land for all to enjoy equally?  Nobody is stopping the Noweto kaffirs from doing their thing on that 40km of oceanfront near Broome - why should anyone else be prevented from doing their thing there?  Apparently all people do there is camp, caravan and fish etc, and their colour is irrelevant..... and there are no permanent settlements of ANY kind...

How about, just for once in these 'land claims' - we look at it from an absolutely even point of view.. you know - equal for all Australians and a few visitors?

What harm is being done by a few people visiting, camping and fishing etc, same as the Kaffirs would do?  Nobody is harming them - why harm others to make them happy?

Equality sucks, neh??

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 4:47pm: Ok Virtue signallers. Go to an aboriginal settlement, I dare you. Go without a guard or protection, I dare you. The fact is that aboriginals in Australia have THE HIGHEST RATE OF CHILD RAPE of any demographic in the world. They have highest unemployment figures in Australia, and that's saying something with muzzos around. They have the highest substance abuse of any demographic, both drugs and grog. They destroy housing given to them FOR FREE and then demand more. They are lazy, greedy, unable to support themselves just like retarded children. They demand constantly, everything. Abbo football, paid for by us Abbo housing, paid for by us Abbo holidays, paid for by us. Everything they do, or want to do costs us, because they live off us. And they are growing in numbers every day. Eventually, there will be too many to support, then What? That's true, Matty, but it might turn out to be a good thing. After all, would you want to share a beach with them?

NO!  Bastards might catch MY fish............  ;)

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:03pm:

Frank wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 6:25pm: freediver wrote on Jun 30th, 2019 at 9:45am: I wonder what would happen if we tried to ban aborigines from Bondi. Maybe the choice should be given to Aborigines: be a fully integrated member of Australian society or be confined to a reservation with no post-1788 instruments of evil invasion. Exactly. And we all know what a fully-integrated member of Australian society is, don't we? You have to like Danish, no?

Australian citizens are a wide church - we have a near endless variety of differences, but all CO-OPERATE and try not to exclude certain groups because we feel like it.....

I blame Islam... you?   ;)

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 4:47pm: Ok Virtue signallers. Go to an aboriginal settlement, I dare you. Go without a guard or protection, I dare you. The fact is that aboriginals in Australia have THE HIGHEST RATE OF CHILD RAPE of any demographic in the world. They have highest unemployment figures in Australia, and that's saying something with muzzos around. They have the highest substance abuse of any demographic, both drugs and grog. They destroy housing given to them FOR FREE and then demand more. They are lazy, greedy, unable to support themselves just like retarded children. They demand constantly, everything. Abbo football, paid for by us Abbo housing, paid for by us Abbo holidays, paid for by us. Everything they do, or want to do costs us, because they live off us. And they are growing in numbers every day. Eventually, there will be too many to support, then What? That's true, Matty, but it might turn out to be a good thing. After all, would you want to share a beach with them?

I have, and more.
I have no problem sharing with anyone.
Except muzzos, who are a PLAGUE.

But to share involves more than just handing over everything to one party.
The receiving party should be grateful and at least have some sense of sharing in return.

Many of our aboriginal brethren, predominantly the white abbos, 1/4 cast or less, want no part in sharing anything.
They simply want, and demand and threaten.

Every person in Australia has the same opportunity to succeed.
Aboriginals have more, they get free education and benefits we white workers can only dream about.
They throw this in our faces, ignoring the opportunities in favor of demands for everything and giving nothing in return.

I am willing to share my food, my wife and I do this several times a week, making meals for those less fortunate or unable to help themselves.
We share our time, as well as working, we do volunteer work and help our elderly neighbours, getting them to medical appointments, hospital or even repairing their homes.

We ask for nothing for this, it's not our way, I have enough, so giving to those who do not is only the right thing to do.
Just last night, I had to take the elderly lady up the street to hospital after she had a nasty fall, badly cutting her arm. After mandating the arm I put her in my car and drove her to hospital, waited around until she was all fixed up and then made sure she was safe home again.
My wife, stayed with her elderly friend who was in a panic from all the blood and frightened (she has dementia)
While there my wife cooked them dinner so they would have nothing to do when we got back.

We ask for nothing, expect nothing
Karma, will one day pay us back.

Now, tell me.
How many aboriginals have you seen working as volunteers or simply helping people?
How many muzzos?

I give, and I'm happy to share
But don't demand for I will tell you to shove it up your anal canal.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 4:47pm: Ok Virtue signallers. Go to an aboriginal settlement, I dare you. Go without a guard or protection, I dare you. The fact is that aboriginals in Australia have THE HIGHEST RATE OF CHILD RAPE of any demographic in the world. They have highest unemployment figures in Australia, and that's saying something with muzzos around. They have the highest substance abuse of any demographic, both drugs and grog. They destroy housing given to them FOR FREE and then demand more. They are lazy, greedy, unable to support themselves just like retarded children. They demand constantly, everything. Abbo football, paid for by us Abbo housing, paid for by us Abbo holidays, paid for by us. Everything they do, or want to do costs us, because they live off us. And they are growing in numbers every day. Eventually, there will be too many to support, then What? That's true, Matty, but it might turn out to be a good thing. After all, would you want to share a beach with them?

I have, and more.
I have no problem sharing with anyone.
Except muzzos, who are a PLAGUE.

But to share involves more than just handing over everything to one party.
The receiving party should be grateful and at least have some sense of sharing in return.

Many of our aboriginal brethren, predominantly the white abbos, 1/4 cast or less, want no part in sharing anything.
They simply want, and demand and threaten.

Every person in Australia has the same opportunity to succeed.
Aboriginals have more, they get free education and benefits we white workers can only dream about.
They throw this in our faces, ignoring the opportunities in favor of demands for everything and giving nothing in return.

I am willing to share my food, my wife and I do this several times a week, making meals for those less fortunate or unable to help themselves.
We share our time, as well as working, we do volunteer work and help our elderly neighbours, getting them to medical appointments, hospital or even repairing their homes.

We ask for nothing for this, it's not our way, I have enough, so giving to those who do not is only the right thing to do.
Just last night, I had to take the elderly lady up the street to hospital after she had a nasty fall, badly cutting her arm. After mandating the arm I put her in my car and drove her to hospital, waited around until she was all fixed up and then made sure she was safe home again.
My wife, stayed with her elderly friend who was in a panic from all the blood and frightened (she has dementia)
While there my wife cooked them dinner so they would have nothing to do when we got back.

We ask for nothing, expect nothing
Karma, will one day pay us back.

Now, tell me.
How many aboriginals have you seen working as volunteers or simply helping people?
How many muzzos?

I give, and I'm happy to share
But don't demand for I will tell you to shove it up your anal canal.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 12:51am:

Australian citizens are a wide church - we have a near endless variety of differences, but all CO-OPERATE and try not to exclude certain groups because we feel like it.....

yet you spend all your time here whinging about feminists, abo, gays and every other minority group under the sun :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 4:58pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 12:51am: Australian citizens are a wide church - we have a near endless variety of differences, but all CO-OPERATE and try not to exclude certain groups because we feel like it..... yet you spend all your time here whinging about feminists, abo, gays and every other minority group under the sun :D :D

You miss the point by a country mile, as usual, Smith - it is THOSE groups who will not co-operate and who constantly seek preferential treatment... the Silenced Majority simply wait for the next whine and the next and the next .... and are excluded from even discussing issues, and are then verbally violated when doing so.

But we don't expect too much in the way of brain cells from you - just more of the same old nonsense ... why are you still here?

A few KM of coastline? Is that all?

Holdfast wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 5:12pm:

A few KM of coastline? Is that all?

Where other people like to go to camp and fish etc... how does that interfere with the Booris and their 'traditional' pursuits?

How would the Booris like it if Whartey said 'no more Koons in Broome town'..... or excluded them from Alice Springs?

Would it be:-  "Broome/Alice Springs? Is that all?"?

What if they were excluded from everything Wharte - how would that go?  Equal treatment, innit?

The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB.

---

White people (Eastern Europeans/slavics) should f*uck off to the deep of the Oceans.
Black people should do such and stick to farming the lands - at   least they are so much better than other races, they can do so by dealing with the existence of 'Wild' country-lands and its fauna as well.
Red Rangas p'is's right off to the Air with their planes, airports and ass-tronomy.
Olive skinned 'Greenies' can take their Military 'bases' and shove up their arses.
Blues, Browns, Greys and Yellows can stick to their own worlds.


...the aboriginals have every right to claim the beaches. Black people own all the lands of the whole world. Aboriginals have already laid claim to North America which is peeved all those 'sub-yellow' Asian 'indians'.
White (blonde hair, white skin) people own the depths of the oceans (not the surface) - because white people are evil and racist and deserve to live in the 'Abyss'.
Blue Brunettes live in Hospitals.
Grey Ravens live on Island Resorts. (yeah - go figure  ::))
Red Rangas live in Airports.


Blacks own all the lands of the World.
Like Whites own Politics (and the 'abyss').
;)

Gutless white Surfers won't punch on with Abos over their beaches. Whites are 'Gay'. Whites belt themselves up when the Police took on the Cronulla Rioters. Police V Sharks over Moslems.  ::)

I dunno. I've deflowered the odd Moslem virgin over the years. Being a 'Shark' does have its benefits. in Australia we don't have 'War' - where 'lovers', not fighters. The Cops stay paid and we (Sharks) get laid.  Cops are 'pimps'  ;)

Johnnie wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB.

yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::)

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::)

The Aboriginals never considered them as 'deserts'.
How 'ignorant' of you as always 'Boofhead'. Even though you try to pass yourself as a leftie aboriginal 'bum chum'. Kissing arse will never get you far.
I'm respected more, because I dont' kiss their arse and thus we 'both' come to a higher understanding of one another.

You're a turd polisher John Smith and GreggaryPeccary is your Turd.

Jasin wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

The Aboriginals never considered them as 'deserts'.

no one said they did dopey. My comment was about it's value to white man you farkin more on.

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:06pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:03pm: The Aboriginals never considered them as 'deserts'. no one said they did dopey. My comment was about it's value to white man you farkin more on.

Ok. Now you're being an over-achiever. Quit while you're ahead John Smith. That's a good fellow. Wouldn't want you to get shot now. ;)

AboBusinesses?

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:06pm:

Jasin wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:03pm: The Aboriginals never considered them as 'deserts'. no one said they did dopey. My comment was about it's value to white man you farkin more on.

So if it has value to the Black Man it's fair game?

Seems from their numbers they've already got enough...

Black people own all the lands of the whole world.
Because white men don't know how to farm them properly without destroying them long term and yellow men keep building cities on them and eat cement.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

So if it has value to the Black Man it's fair game?

WTF are you rambling on about now?

I can't see hundreds of thousands of blonde haired, blue eyed 'surfer' type 'White' boys standing up for 'their' beaches against Aboriginal control and ownership (they get 'free' white pussy). No matter how many 'Beach Boy' music and Blue Lagoon movies they play - it ain't gonna help them much. Abos are kicking sand in the Whitey's face.

Remember, ALL Raven-haired/pale skinned and Brunette-haired/light skinned Males consider the 'Blonde' Male as 'Gay', which is ironic since they consider themselves as 'White' - which they are not. They are Grey and Blue.

Bahahaha.  ;D

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::)

No value? Except for all of the natural resources contained in it??? These same natural resources aborigines have a habit of selling to mining companies.

:D

:D

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::) No value? Except for all of the natural resources contained in it??? These same natural resources aborigines have a habit of selling to mining companies.

was that land declared aboriginal before or after the minerals were discovered?  :D :D

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:30pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::) No value? Except for all of the natural resources contained in it??? These same natural resources aborigines have a habit of selling to mining companies.

And Hammer throws John Smith a curve ball as well.  ;D

John Smith swings and misses.
Strike!

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::) No value? Except for all of the natural resources contained in it??? These same natural resources aborigines have a habit of selling to mining companies. was that land declared aboriginal before or after the minerals were discovered?  :D :D

Some before and some after. You know why it's called the red centre? Because the ground is full of iron ore.

Jasin wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::) No value? Except for all of the natural resources contained in it??? These same natural resources aborigines have a habit of selling to mining companies. And Hammer throws John Smith a curve ball as well.  ;D

cheers jasin. :)

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

cheers jasin.

you realise he would cheer for anyone who disagreed with me, no matter how stupid their comment, right?  ;D ;D ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:40pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::) No value? Except for all of the natural resources contained in it??? These same natural resources aborigines have a habit of selling to mining companies. was that land declared aboriginal before or after the minerals were discovered?  :D :D Some before and some after. You know why it's called the red centre? Because the ground is full of iron ore.

and with the land where minerals were discovered prior to the aborigines being given their land rights, the rights of the miner were protected over and above all else.

Don't kid yourself, they only pay the aborigines now because they have no choice. That horse has already bolted.

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:27pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:23pm: So if it has value to the Black Man it's fair game? WTF are you rambling on about now?

Trying to teach you both sides of every question you struggle to respond to sensibly....

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:40pm: cheers jasin. you realise he would cheer for anyone who disagreed with me, no matter how stupid their comment, right?  ;D ;D ;D

You brought that on yourself ........

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:40pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::) No value? Except for all of the natural resources contained in it??? These same natural resources aborigines have a habit of selling to mining companies. was that land declared aboriginal before or after the minerals were discovered?  :D :D Some before and some after. You know why it's called the red centre? Because the ground is full of iron ore. and with the land where minerals were discovered prior to the aborigines being given their land rights, the rights of the miner were protected over and above all else. Don't kid yourself, they only pay the aborigines now because they have no choice. That horse has already bolted.

Pay them for what?

John Smith wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:40pm: cheers jasin. you realise he would cheer for anyone who disagreed with me, no matter how stupid their comment, right?  ;D ;D ;D

You realise that Hammer & I grew up in the same area and naturally cheer each other on regardless.
You're just got tickets on yourself as usual Boofhead.
Your head is so boofed up that its larger than LTYC's Afro-Electro.
*flicks Boofhead on the forehead with a tea-spoon.

I have the perfect idea.

All land given to aboriginals now becomes their land.
To be controlled by them and as their only income genetation.
No more hand outs, no more dole, no more benifits.
They now have their land, let them work it and live off it.

It will save us 35billion dollars a year.

Valkie wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 7:54am:

I have the perfect idea. All land given to aboriginals now becomes their land. To be controlled by them and as their only income genetation. No more hand outs, no more dole, no more benifits. They now have their land, let them work it and live off it. It will save us 35billion dollars a year.

Was thinking along those lines myself..... you want exclusivity by race, you want to BE a separate 'race', you reckon you've got rights - then go your own way with what you've got and in peace.  If you hate whitey so much, do without his benefits.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 11:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:44pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:40pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::) No value? Except for all of the natural resources contained in it??? These same natural resources aborigines have a habit of selling to mining companies. was that land declared aboriginal before or after the minerals were discovered?  :D :D Some before and some after. You know why it's called the red centre? Because the ground is full of iron ore. and with the land where minerals were discovered prior to the aborigines being given their land rights, the rights of the miner were protected over and above all else. Don't kid yourself, they only pay the aborigines now because they have no choice. That horse has already bolted. Pay them for what?

royalties

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14^th, 2019 at 11:11pm:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:27pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:23pm: So if it has value to the Black Man it's fair game? WTF are you rambling on about now? Trying to teach you both sides of every question you struggle to respond to sensibly....

so instead of explaining what you were rambling about, you continue with more rambling?  :D

Ohh, I get it .............you don't know what you were going on about either.

Jasin wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 4:54am:

John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:40pm: cheers jasin. you realise he would cheer for anyone who disagreed with me, no matter how stupid their comment, right?  ;D ;D ;D You realise that Hammer & I grew up in the same area and naturally cheer each other on regardless. You're just got tickets on yourself as usual Boofhead. Your head is so boofed up that its larger than LTYC's Afro-Electro. *flicks Boofhead on the forehead with a tea-spoon.

so you actually agree that you would cheer no matter what was said?  :D :D :D

god you're an idiot

John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 5:44pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 11:12pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:44pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:40pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:30pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 7:59pm: Johnnie wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 6:07pm: The Abbos already own nearly half of OZ including a fair whack coastline, that's half of OZ that I can't get into or have to pay to get into, easy money for them, I hope they spend it wisely and not on VB. yeah ... almost all of it desert that has no value. How generous of the white man ::) ::) ::) No value? Except for all of the natural resources contained in it??? These same natural resources aborigines have a habit of selling to mining companies. was that land declared aboriginal before or after the minerals were discovered?  :D :D Some before and some after. You know why it's called the red centre? Because the ground is full of iron ore. and with the land where minerals were discovered prior to the aborigines being given their land rights, the rights of the miner were protected over and above all else. Don't kid yourself, they only pay the aborigines now because they have no choice. That horse has already bolted. Pay them for what? royalties

Aha!  I knew all along they had a deep spiritual connection with the land, such that it should not be defaced by Whitey walking across it....

John Smith wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 5:46pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 11:11pm: John Smith wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:27pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 14th, 2019 at 8:23pm: So if it has value to the Black Man it's fair game? WTF are you rambling on about now? Trying to teach you both sides of every question you struggle to respond to sensibly.... so instead of explaining what you were rambling about, you continue with more rambling?  :D Ohh, I get it .............you don't know what you were going on about either.

You certainly don't understand that a sword has two edges.. especially those you try to wield....

You cant make toffee out of dogsh!t Grappler, in John Smiths case expecting him to make an intelligent argument is exactly that.

rhino wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:29pm:

You cant make toffee out of dogsh!t Grappler, in John Smiths case expecting him to make an intelligent argument is exactly that.

Kind of leaves a bad taste in the mouth.....

Let's hear it from the Irish - and remember I'm somewhere in line for High King of Ulster at Tara....

http://www.concernedaustralians.com.au/media/distinguished-lecture-paper-2017.pdf

"Mining royalty payments and the governance of Aboriginal Australia

Introduction:-
To say that Indigenous policy is challenging and complex is an obvious understatement. Governments and policy makersin Australia have struggled for decades to address Indigenous social and economic disadvantage,while at the same time maintaining Indigenous cultural identity.In this situation you would expect that if there was one policy response whose effectiveness was established beyond doubt, governments would grasp it with enthusiasm and relief, and then turn their minds to finding other and complementary policy solutions. I want to argue this evening that there is such a policy response, which involves the fostering and encouragement of Indigenous autonomy and Indigenous self-government. By ‘autonomy’ I mean the capacity to set your own goals and the means by which you pursue them. By self-government I mean a particular form of autonomy which involves a negotiated, permanent transfer of governance powers, and of the resources required to exercise those powers, to Indigenous institutions.  I am not saying that Indigenous autonomy is a ‘silver bullet’ that would resolve all issues facing Australia’s Indigenous peoples. But I will show that there is overwhelming empirical evidence to suggest that it can make a major contribution. I will argue that despite this evidence Australian governments have, especially in the last decade, not only failed to embrace Indigenous autonomy, but have consistently rejected and undermined it. This rejection constitutes a huge problem in terms of addressing Indigenous disadvantage and promoting Indigenous cultural vitality. It is important to explain the reluctance of Australian governments to recognise the value of Indigenous autonomy, let alone embrace it. I will attempt to do this, arguing that key factors include non-Indigenous institutional interests associated with existing patterns of governance and service delivery; the paternalism and racism that is still a powerful influence on Australia’s approach to its Indigenous peoples; and, linked to this second factor, Australia’s failure to fully address the history of its relations with its First Nations. l will conclude the Lecture by considering what academic researchers can do to help address government reluctance to embrace Indigenous autonomy and the factors that underpin that reluctance. "

Just trying to return this strand to some level of intellectual discourse... this speech gives not only some food for thought, but also an insight into the Fenian nature of the Irish speaker... not saying I disagree with any of that, just saying, OK?

Clearly an Irishman has a lot to say about autonomy and self-rule..... and clearly he seems to be advocating a separate but equal state .... Noweto as I've said... and his fervent hope seems to be that mining royalties will fund the New Aboriginal Nation (NABON).

Just as clearly it is simply not possible to have self-autonomy and an autonomous state and self-governance under their own rules among those who currently constitute part of the overall Australian community - so is he advocating deportation to Noweto?  Is he then advocating Aboriginality as another 'state without borders' the same as IS?

As he said - the issue is complex - but I'm not persuaded that he has anything like the answer.

**cue philperth to call me a racist tosser, and John Smith to call me anything he can get his two tongues around**  (I need a laugh).....

*blip

Hmm... his idea sounds sound - but there is only one example of how Indigenous autonomic governance over royalty money (one limited aspect, BTW - not TOTAL self-governance) has been a success.

Interesting that he cites both Indigenous and non-Indigenous officers and employees who have ripped them off.  Trouble is that it is well-nigh impossible to guarantee the same will not occur and that the same level of shareholder/stakeholder oversight will actually apply.

On another vein - governments in the past have played somewhat fast and loose with Indigenous earnings from other avenues of 'work' or garnering of income than royalties paid by mining companies, as a recent court decision and payouts just proved.

Also of interest is the (most likely fair) comment that simultaneous withdrawal of government taxpayer-funded inputs will, at best, generate a net balance outcome, and not actually and materially enhance the position of the stakeholders, given that there are reasons royalties are being paid - i.e. damage etc to the landscape and ecology, and, once again, companies do not have a good track record of restoring and re-generating land wrecked.

In another vein, reduction of government benefits would be difficult to oversee and implement due to the difficulty of actually allocating direct income to stakeholders - and especially when much is/should be going into infrastructure and funding for future income (where Howard failed most).

Lots of thought there.... and let's keep that discussion away from total self-governance and self-determination - i.e. Apartheid.  That is a separate issue from controlling distribution of earned income.

blip*

*blip

Only winners are breweries

and bottle shops

PZ547 wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 9:24am:

Only winners are breweries and bottle shops

Sadly - unless there is infrastructure that provides better, that will be the case.  I can't seriously envisage a group of people knowledgeable enough to even lodge such a claim as '40km of coastline' sitting around with a fishing rod or tracking a 'roo for breakfast, and living 'traditionally' in a humpy.

Without massive 'intervention' from the White Man's Way, that 'traditional' way will not exist and , as you say, is most likely, in an order of 95%, to lapse into just another vicious cycle of poverty, violence and despair fueled by booze and sustained by White Man's rent money .....

Valkie wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 7:54am:

I have the perfect idea. All land given to aboriginals now becomes their land. To be controlled by them and as their only income genetation. No more hand outs, no more dole, no more benifits. They now have their land, let them work it and live off it. It will save us 35billion dollars a year.

Ee-gad, the mining industry would have a right kerfuffle.

Imagine the Boongs having the power to veto mines. No native title, no joint ownership or mere consultation, but full freehold title with no restrictions.

One Nation would come to power in both Queensland and WA. Who knows? Clive Palmer might even win a seat. One thing we do know:

FD would not be amused.

And as for saving a few fortnightly Newstart payments, the loss of royalties would break the bank in 2 states and a territory. The mining industry would blitz the airwaves with negative ads and, as they did to Kevin Rudd, hold the government to ransom. "Sovereign risk" would re-enter our vernacular. The mere threat of Australia losing its AAA credit rating would mean Australia would lose its AAA credit rating.

Boongs owning land outright?

Dream on.

Aren't state royalties separate from Aboriginal royalties?

Genuine question.... on the rest, Abu, you are pretty right.... all I can foresee from all this kerfuffle about 'Aboriginal rights' is endless strife that costs the taxpayer a heap of money one way or the other.

Better to set a deadline (I thought there had been one!!  Years ago after Mabo!!), and that's it - No More Claims!

https://sydney.edu.au/news-opinion/news/2017/06/02/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-mabo-decision.html

"5. Recognition of land ownership today

Today, native title has been recognised over more than one million square kilometres of Australian land and water (approximately 15% of Australian territorial land and waters). There are currently 629 registered Indigenous Land Use Agreements – a voluntary agreement between a native title group and others about the use of land and waters – in place."

Hmm - 3% of the population now hold 15% of the land rights.... hmmm and still whining...

The local coons in our area fought hard and dirty for years to own a very nice piece of land.

Once given it, and before the ink was dry, they sold their land (Vitally important to them for tribal and cultural reasons) to a developer for many millions of dollars.

Within 5 years the administrators had to come in and take over, more than 2/3 of the money was gone, with absolutely nothing to show for it.
Wasted, thrown away on worthless trinkets and toys for the few who were in control.
These abbos were one tribe among several in the area, not one cent went to any of the other tribes, that's not how it works apparently.
They don't mix well together when there is money to be had.

Now they are going for some more land they want, and will probably get it, and sell it off to another developer.

Greedy, wasteful, lying people.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 11:47am:

Valkie wrote on Jul 15th, 2019 at 7:54am: I have the perfect idea. All land given to aboriginals now becomes their land. To be controlled by them and as their only income genetation. No more hand outs, no more dole, no more benifits. They now have their land, let them work it and live off it. It will save us 35billion dollars a year. Ee-gad, the mining industry would have a right kerfuffle. Imagine the Boongs having the power to veto mines. No native title, no joint ownership or mere consultation, but full freehold title with no restrictions. One Nation would come to power in both Queensland and WA. Who knows? Clive Palmer might even win a seat. One thing we do know: FD would not be amused. And as for saving a few fortnightly Newstart payments, the loss of royalties would break the bank in 2 states and a territory. The mining industry would blitz the airwaves with negative ads and, as they did to Kevin Rudd, hold the government to ransom. "Sovereign risk" would re-enter our vernacular. The mere threat of Australia losing its AAA credit rating would mean Australia would lose its AAA credit rating. Boongs owning land outright? Dream on.

Well it worked for Mabo didn't it?