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General Discussion >> Chat >> Go Fund me ~ Folau http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1561091809 Message started by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 2:36pm |
Title: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 2:36pm
Izzy wants us to give him $M3 so he can fight for his religious freedom. "Get fuqqed. Have my thoughts and prayers instead, Izzy."
Please help Izzy. Send thoughts and prayers. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Valkie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:06pm
Made my donation
We need to fight these pooftahs that re trying to rule what you can and can't say because they have money. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:07pm Valkie wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:06pm:
Folau has signed many multimillion dollar contracts |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Valkie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:22pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:07pm:
Who cares If he is fighting the pooftah cause I'll all for it Put the poofs back in the cupboard where they belong |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:41pm Valkie wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:22pm:
No he ain't. He wants to get his snout back in the "pooftah" sponsored trough. Nothing about 'religious freedom' at all. Ye'd feckon such a fervent and avid God botherer would rather have thoughts and prayers and not grubby cash, yes? What he needs is thoughts and prayers, so best to send them, ey? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 7:43pm
Poor Old Izzy is copping an absolute hiding on social media. Good.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Wally Raffles on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:04pm
I'm wiv You there Mate.
It be Different if He was Muslim or Hindu. As a Diverse Cabby driver who Plays Golf in my Spare time and Have a Lovely Pakistani Wife wiv a Daughter who Pierced her Clit and Nipples I am Accepting of Other Cultures. I draw The Line at Christian Bigotry though. Bajayzus! :o |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:27pm Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 7:43pm:
Yet he's raised about $250k in 12 hours. He must be gutted about your Facebook post about him. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:30pm Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:27pm:
Huh???? What Facebook post are you referring to? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:33pm Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:30pm:
Your post where he said he as coping a hiding on social media. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:35pm Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:33pm:
How stupid. You said that I had made some post on Facebook. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:38pm Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:35pm:
No, I said your Facebook post, not your post on Facebook. In future, try to read what I write, not what you THINK I write. That's all for now. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:38pm Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:38pm:
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:39pm
Yuck.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:39pm
What Facebook post? I never mentioned Facebook. I said 'social media.'
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:41pm Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 8:39pm:
Is Facebook considered social media? Is a clitoral piercing considered FGM? So many things to wonder about. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:02pm
It is now at $420,000.00. Where are the priorities of Australians? This bloke has made millions out of Sport, spent all of $100,000.00 on Lawyers so far. What has he done with that money?
Gawd.....$420,000.00 for a lippy idiot, yet nothing for a starving kid somewhere. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:05pm Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:02pm:
Maybe you should make some more facebook posts about him? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:07pm Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:05pm:
Have you donated to his cause Gordon? How much did you put in? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:12pm Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:07pm:
Im a pro ssm atheist, Turdo. You? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:21pm Gordon wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:12pm:
Remind me Gordon....what is this Thread about? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:28pm Aussie wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 9:21pm:
Prayers? Maybe his god is working wonders in mysterious ways? ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Valkie on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 8:20am
People just want this Qantas poof put on his arse.
I've put in Might add to it. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 8:49am Valkie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 8:20am:
Alan Joyce? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 9:30am
the news today Folau has $7mil in assets...
poor dear.... for a good Christian standing up for his beliefs...[the right to condemn others] .. there is something NOT RIGHT about him doing this... :( :( :( for the life of me I cannot see any members on here standing up for HIS RELIGIOUS BELIEFS if he happened to be a Muslim.... >:( >:( now tell me this... is every sportsman/women going to be able to preach his her doctrine in the open market place... because if you say NO... .. then you will lose.... because what he is doing will in fact affect every religion on the country..... their right to speak out no matter what... the man is a professional in the world of sport... he has an obligation when he signs contracts to follow the rules and expectations of that code.... a lot of people he thinks he is fit to challenge also play sport and are role models for millions of young kids.... yet he thinks his religious beliefs let him off being accountable.... shut up Folau....if you want to play footy.....to beg for money when you have $7m stashed away is kind of greedy in my book...... not sure what Jesus would say!I cant see him being happy though |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Ajax on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 12:01pm
I don't really care what he believes in, what I do care about is that he cannot voice his opinion.
Poofters reign supreme we say anything against them and heaven help you. Is this right..........................??? 3% of the population muzzling the rest.....!!! |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 1:13pm Ajax wrote on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 12:01pm:
Only 3% ? there are poofters everywhere. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Ajax on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 1:17pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 1:13pm:
They have infiltrated high places and the United Nations gives them a back bone to be heard. No body should lose his or her job because he or she has an opinion. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 1:28pm Ajax wrote on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 1:17pm:
We now have thought crimes - this was predicted by George Orwell. David Bowie, beware the savage jaw of 1984. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Ajax on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 2:02pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG7DGMgfOb8
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 2:22pm Ajax wrote on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 1:17pm:
Are you being obtuse deliberately? He was not booted for having an opinion. He can share it......but.......it is the expectation that he NOT do so on social schmedia. Them's the Rules under which he took the Union's money. Tough titties Izzy but I am happy to give you my thoughts and prayers. I'll keep my money for a far worthy deserving cause. Yer a grub. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 2:35pm
Israel Folau committed a thought crime.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 4:52pm
The Though Police got Israel Folau.
David Bowie - 1984. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EU845qmA0fk [Verse 1] Someday they won't let you Now you must agree The times they are a-telling Changing isn't free You've read it in the papers, tracks are on TV Beware the savage jaw of 1984 They'll split your pretty cranium, fill it full of air Tell that you're eighty, brother, you won't care You'll be shooting up on anything, tomorrow's never there Beware the savage jaw of 1984 [Chorus] Come see, come see, remember me? We played out an all night movie role You said it would last, but I guess we enrolled In 1984 (who could ask for more) 1984 (who could ask for mor-or-or-or-ore) (Mor-or-or-or-ore) [Verse 2] I'm looking for a vehicle,looking for a ride Looking for a party, looking for a side Looking for the reason that I knew in '65 Beware the savage jaw of 1984 |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:02pm One day we will all learn to love Big Brother. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:20pm Aussie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 2:22pm:
Never far from your mind, eh Aussie? Aussie wrote on Jun 17th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1560737366/48#48 |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:20pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:02pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3eC35LoF4U |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:49pm
As posted in another thread.
The absolute nerve of this bloke. The bloke has been earning a million bucks a year for quite a few years and is now asking strangers to pay for his legal fees. Unreal. He's trying to frame this as a great fight for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. But it's not. He's fighting a breach of contract. Oh but he was happy to throw his religious beliefs out the window a few years ago when, in an effort to gain lucrative sponsorships, expand his fan base and boost his profile he appeared on the front page of a gay newspaper! This isn't about freedom of speech or freedom of religion. It's about money. That is all he cares about. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:51pm Raven wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:49pm:
Never heard of this loser before all this hit the media. We don't follow his sport in WA. Anyway, he's a total prick. I hope he goes bankrupt and never gets work again. Fricken happy clapping God nuts. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:54pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:51pm:
Would you say the same about Muslims? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 9:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:51pm:
You mean New Zealand? Are you sure? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 9:09pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 8:54pm:
Hell no! His neighbours may have him beheaded. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 9:47pm Setanta wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 9:09pm:
Greggy went offline when I asked him that. He's now got a headache. ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:02pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 9:47pm:
I have no time for any god bothering ideas but I'm a bigot because I lump Islam in with the rest, well maybe at the top of the list. Gregg is not a bigot when he chooses to pay out on some happy clapping god botherers and supports others. Gregg has a bad case of cognitive dissonance. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:21pm Setanta wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:02pm:
Religion actually annoys me quite a bit, however I like using it to win arguments. LOL |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:28pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:21pm:
Religion never wins arguments Bobby, it creates them. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:30pm Setanta wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:28pm:
But I like to say that - well God said it so it must be right. ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:32pm Setanta wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:02pm:
As an atheist it's my opinion that a religion is no more than a codified set of ideas, beliefs and customs. Do you agree with that? |
Title: Folau asks for $3 mill despite $7 mill properties Post by Raven on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 6:15pm
Sacked rugby star Israel Folau has been called out for asking for $3m in donations from the public despite holding a property portfolio worth an estimated $7 million dollars.
The former Waratahs and Wallabies fullback owns six homes, as well as three blocks of land in both NSW and QLD, including a house in Kenthurst, Sydney worth over $2m and a house in Stanhope Gardens, Sydney worth over $1m. Despite these impressive holdings, Folau has reached out for donations from all Australians, starting up a GoFundMe page and saying “I have the fight of my life on my hands and every little bit will help.” Folau, who claims he’s already spent $100,000 in legal fees to fight his contract termination, also recently sold a Lamborghini, worth $500,000. Now, the 30-year-old has been called out for his act of greed – as his GoFundMe earnings surpass $500,000. Macquarie Radio’s Chris Smith hammered Folau on Weekend Sunrise saying he has “no respect for him at all”. “You know what GoFundMe’s for? GoFundMe is for kids who need operations on their brain and their kids can’t afford the money,” Smith said. “Maybe he could sell a property or two or three or four or five or six or seven and then he could fund the legal action himself.” Link The absolute nerve of this bloke. The bloke has been earning a million bucks a year for quite a few years and is now asking strangers to pay for his legal fees. Unreal. He's trying to frame this as a great fight for freedom of speech and freedom of religion. But it's not. He's fighting a breach of contract. Oh but he was happy to throw his religious beliefs out the window a few years ago when, in an effort to gain lucrative sponsorships, expand his fan base and boost his profile he appeared on the front page of a gay newspaper! This isn't about freedom of speech or freedom of religion. It's about money. That is all he cares about. |
Title: Re: Folau asks for $3 mill despite $7 mill properties Post by Setanta on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 9:29pm
Do you mind if I merge this with the existing thread Raven?
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Title: Re: Folau asks for $3 mill despite $7 mill properties Post by Raven on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:36pm
That is fine, Raven did not realise there was another thread when he posted this.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:42pm
Religion in a nutshell....
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ge45R9qoW_Y |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:44pm Gordon wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:32pm:
If you add fossilised in there somewhere. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:51pm Setanta wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:44pm:
Rigidly codified. If religion is just a set of ideas, they should be judged on both it's content and the outcomes for its adherents. If the Mayan religion persisted today to the extent that it practiced ritual sacrifice, would it's opponents be slandered as Mayanophobes? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:55pm Gordon wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:51pm:
Aztecs were better at it. Go to war, capture unbelievers, cut their beating hearts out, roll their heartless bleeding bodies down the pyramid. Much like Islam except for the pyramid and the head instead of the heart. However you want to label "religion", it's a pox, a blight on mankind and it's sad to see it rearing it's ugly head again in this day and age with the knowledge we have. It's sad that the world still gives it credence and bows to it as something to be venerated. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Abu on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:30am Gordon wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:51pm:
So unfair, Gordon, so slanderous. The Mayan religion is not a race either. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Abu on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:32am Setanta wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:55pm:
Hang on, did you just say Islam? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:49am Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:32am:
Sorry K, if I did you know I meant Bhuddism, slip of the |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:13am Setanta wrote on Jun 23rd, 2019 at 10:55pm:
Well said. https://youtu.be/GdkSnT12F0g |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by buzzanddidj on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:47am Folau GoFundMe appeal shut down by crowdfunding site Tom Decent June 24, 2019 — 10.32am Israel Folau's controversial appeal for financial assistance for his legal fight against Rugby Australia has been shut down by GoFundMe Australia, with more than $650,000 in funds donated to the ex-rugby star expected to be refunded. GoFundMe Australia released a statement to the Herald on Monday saying the Folau appeal breached the organisation's terms and conditions "Today we will be closing Israel Folau’s campaign and issuing full refunds to all donors. After a routine period of evaluation, we have concluded that this campaign violates our terms of service," GoFundMe Australia regional manager Nicola Britton said. "As a company, we are absolutely committed to the fight for equality for LGBTIQ+ people and fostering an environment of inclusivity. While we welcome GoFundMes engaging in diverse civil debate, we do not tolerate the promotion of discrimination or exclusion. https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/folau-gofundme-appeal-shut-down-by-crowdfunding-site-20190624-p520nh.html . |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:58am buzzanddidj wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:47am:
;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 11:08am
Greggy,
you've been sucked in by political correctness. See my thread in Environment. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:01pm "Sacked Wallaby Israel Folau's attempt to crowdfund for his legal action against Rugby Australia has been shut down by GoFundMe, which will refund all money raised to donors." |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:01pm:
Why did they do that pecca? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:13pm
Does this mean that I'll get my $50 back?
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:17pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:12pm:
It violates their terms of service. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:18pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:13pm:
Yes. That's what 'refund' means, Bobby. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:22pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:13pm:
.....and when you get it back, use the same $50.00 to gofundme a genuinely worthy cause. Someone actually in the fight of their life. Be nice to see a screen shot confirming you did that Bobby. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:25pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:22pm:
You wish. Political correctness is soft censorship. It is intolerance disguised as tolerance. As George Carlin said, it is fascism pretending to be manners. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm "Maybe Israel Folau could try God Fund Me" ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:42pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 2:35pm:
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by buzzanddidj on Jun 24th, 2019 at 1:06pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:22pm:
Supporting Gay Youth - in Response to Israel Folau https://www.gofundme.com/supporting-lgbt-youth-in-response-to-israel-folau Quote:
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 1:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:42pm:
Bobby????? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 1:11pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 12:42pm:
But a tattoo is not a sin punishable by eternal hellfire and damnation as are the sins on Folau's list. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 1:16pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 1:11pm:
What IS the punishment for your poster boy's tattoos? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 1:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 1:16pm:
Ask master Light or Yadda or Moses. Sprint might know. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 1:25pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 1:21pm:
Maybe getting the sack and being publicly humiliated is his punishment. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:02pm
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To me, it looks as if Go Fund Me has been leaned on Go Fund Me has been put between the rock and the hard place The very fact that so many Aussies contributed so much in so little time, spells out very clearly how Aussies feel about LGBTXXXXX Bad decision --- going in the face of majority feels Aussies now know their beliefs, mores, values, opinions, etc. have been discounted Stupid to rile the anger of so many and obvious panic on the part of those who throttled Falau's supporters Not going to foster tolerance for LGBTIXXXX one bit LGBTIXXX pushers have been given the message lound and clear by the majority maybe advertisers & media & government might start to take note of where the public stands on this issue |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:04pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
yes, that'ld be nice |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:06pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
How many Aussies, exactly? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:13pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
Really? Are you suggesting that 12.4 million people donated money to his GoFundMe campaign? Nobody's buying that. What's the real figure? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:25pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
I agree. It does seem that way. Funny times we live in.... |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:26pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:13pm:
Not only did the amount raised in a very short space of time scare the pants of those pushing the LGBTIXXXX it was the fear of just how much was going to be raised which of course would put paid to the BS about how the vast majority feel about LGBTIXXX all proof positive that the gender bender BS is on the nose and the overwhelming majority have no time for it |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:30pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:26pm:
How many people donated? You didn't say. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:32pm
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Proof is in the pudding Public response scared the crap out of those who thought they had the game won so they ripped the pudding out of the oven when it was still only batter because they were terrified of how pleasing the taste of the fully baked pudding would be to those they imagined they'd brainwashed but they've got the message, they've had a taste and it is nothing like what they wanted or expected Falau has been provided all the evidence he needs to show him he's on the right track and the world has seen that |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:36pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:32pm:
How many members of the public? You didn't say. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:40pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:26pm:
Correct. We don't watch normal tv. Yesterday we turned it on for the footy. Well...one channel had the "inclusion" add. A red haired bloke, dressed in women's neglage....WTAF? Turn tv off. I can't believe this is on prime time tv. How disgusting and offensive. These people are psychologically disturbed. They need help. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:42pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
How many Aussies, roughly? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:42pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:32pm:
You still have not answered Greg's questions. BTW...the proof of the pudding is in the eating. Get that right. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:43pm
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All those five dollar donations quickly amounted to hundreds of thousands of dollars Cop that, globalists and you showed you lack the courage of your convictions despite your indoctrination of little kids Falau revealed the alleged 'acceptance' of LGBTIxxxxx was a lie People spoke with their pockets hundreds of thousands of them No wonder Falau's fundraiser was pulled in it's infancy the globalist perverts were terrified of just how high the amount would reach if allowed to continue for even another week Donors showed what they think of the nonsense that is LGBTIxxxx and did it immediately, right from the start Here we are in a recession. Money is verrrry tight. Yet they sacrificed to donate it wasn't so much a testament to Falau as to the contempt people feel for the LGBTIxxx movement/propaganda people via their donations, gave the big finger to LGBTIxxxxx Cop that, globalists, you lying cowards you're back where you began --- with a trifling 1.5% at best and it would be the same with donations from those who give the big finger to the lie that is global warming climate change as well plus, Go Fund Me itself is on the nose now for pulling Falau's fundraiser which will cost Go Fund Me massively in popularity and donations |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:45pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
Really? Can you provide evidence to support your claim please? Thank you. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:48pm
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TWO MASSIVE WINS IN THE PAST FEW DAYS HONG KONG AND THE DESTRUCTION OF LGBTIXXX PROPAGANDA Back to the drawing board, globalists and by the way, globalists, Eternity is calling you and soon you will be no more |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:50pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:45pm:
Even if it was 900,000 people, that's still not a majority. So, how many people was it, and where is your evidence? Each time you avoid the question, it just gets worse for you. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 3:43pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
When the total was at $688,270, the total number of donors was 9,042 (this is a known fact). So, the average up until then was just over $76 per person. The final total was about $760,000 I believe. So, if we divide that figure by 76 we get 10,000. Not quite hundreds of thousands, is it now? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 3:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 3:43pm:
Alphabet Numbers?????????? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:00pm
Alphabet Numbers:
LINK. Here is a legitimate 'tens of thousands.' Quote:
8-) |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:01pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 3:47pm:
You're losing it big-time, greg Now you have to drag your sock Aussie in, immediately behind you both of you nonexistent idiots trying to put the focus on the 'number' of donors when the number of donors is IRRELEVANT what really sticks in your craw and the craws of your employers is the fact Falau supporters put their money where their opinions lie FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE and kicked it out of the park in just a couple of days down in LGBTIxxxx headquarters, they are in shock they'd managed to kid themselves they were the new sliced bread now they're forced to accept they are merely the crumbs they always were and that's backed by the massive support for Falau suck it up |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:08pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:01pm:
You changed your mind pretty quick. The amount of people was all that was relevant to you half an hour ago, before I proved you wrong. Only 10,000 people participated in the Folau Fleece. Out of 24 million people, that's hardly a drop in the ocean. The overwhelming, vast majority of Australians couldn't give a flying bugger about this happy clapping, homophobic, amateur sportsman. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:10pm
Dear oh dear Alphabet Numbers....it was you rabbitting on about the vast number of people you claimed supported the idiot. You were wrong. It looks like it was about 10,000 "Hillsong" wankers.
95,000 signed a Petition to being the gofundme thing down. So sad too bad Israel. There you were with your hand around $700,000.00 and it was snatched from you. Have another thought and prayer to make up for it. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by FRED. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:12pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:08pm:
;) ;) ;) Hows ya mum's teat going dryed up yet super sucker ? hey movie star! |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:13pm
Thanks for proving 'greg' (creator of dozens of socks) is able to read people's posts as they type them
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:16pm FRED. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:12pm:
Bye bye Fred. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:20pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:00pm:
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but 95,000 is more than 10,000 isn't it? I mean, a lot more. :-/ |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by FRED. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:21pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:16pm:
;) whats your problem rickshaw boy ? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 6:54pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 4:10pm:
Hi Aussie, does this mean that you support poofter sodomites? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 6:57pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 6:54pm:
Yes....as do the vast majority of Australians who voted on SSM. It is you who is out of step. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:04pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 6:57pm:
But Aussie - you know what they do don't you? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:18pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:04pm:
Tell me Bobby. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:20pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:04pm:
Laugh at Goober behind his back? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:32pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:18pm:
No - I won't. If you don't know now you'll never know. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:34pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
I'll know if you tell me Bobby. Go right ahead. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:36pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:34pm:
Ask Greggy - he knows and would be glad to tell you. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:39pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:36pm:
Indeed. They do exactly the same as opposite sex couples. Nothing more, nothing less. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:53pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:39pm:
Are you sure? I pork a vagina, I don't think SS men can do that. My wife takes the pork, not sure lesbians have pork. So not exactly the same, eh? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:00pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 7:53pm:
100% positive. I'll bet my life on it. I've put the challenge out many times, and nobody has been able to prove me wrong (as usual). There is nothing that gays do that straights don't also do. Anal, vaginal, oral, water sports, scat, kissing, cuddling, holding hands, sex toys, S&M, B&D, picnics, movies, work, watching TV, eating dinner, washing the car, walking the dog, etc. etc. etc. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:07pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:00pm:
Marking your own homework again? Gregg I have proven you wrong everytime you back yourself into this corner, you just fail to see it. You claim is that "They do exactly the same as opposite sex couples", it's easy to prove wrong. They don't have sex or fiddle with or kiss or tongue each others genitals with the opposite gender. You see it's not exactly the same or men would have vaginas and women would be carrying pork. You may claim they do some things the same, like kiss or touch but it's not "exactly" the same things SS people get up to. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:12pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:07pm:
Kissing and touching is kissing and touching. As I said, nobody has proven me wrong on this point yet. And, nobody will (it's impossible). |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:12pm:
Posting gifs gets no points. Stop marking your own homework. Ah, so all same sex and opposite sex couples get up to is kissing and touching? You do know there is even a difference in there, same sex/opposite sex... You have a very loose(I'll refrain from "yo momma" jokes) definition of "exactly". Should we drag out the dictionary and explore that? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:19pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:15pm:
You should have quit while you were behind, so to speak. Greg = 1 Ignorant homophobes = nil |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:19pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:15pm:
And you call me a pedant. You know exactly what he means. You are trying to be a smart arse. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:21pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:19pm:
And he's 50% successful. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:24pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:19pm:
Is this the same guy who not long ago picked me up on "ruling" over "verdict"? There is a definition of "exactly". You know it as well as I do. Nothing smartarse about it, there is no "exactly" the same as opposite sex couples beyond kissing and touching. It's not being pedantic at all. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:29pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
I'm 100% right. I don't give a toss what other adults do, not my concern but saying gay men sleep with their "wife" and poke vagina is not "exactly" correct. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:29pm
SS couple do exactly the same with each other as heteros do with each other.
Argue with that. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:32pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:29pm:
Why did you say it then? Nobody else did. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:34pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:29pm:
Not at the moment, I'm arguing Gregg's definition of "exactly", stop trying to muddy the waters, you know as well as he does he is wrong but I'm willing to take you on with your argument too when you two concede what "exactly" means. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:35pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
Dancing knee deep in mud are you? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:35pm Set is acting exactly how I'd expect someone to act after they've had their arse handed to them. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:43pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
I thought you said they did "exactly" the same things... Backing away from that now? Backpeddling? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:45pm |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:46pm
So, all you are doing is trolling, looking for a schit fight. Way to go GMod.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:53pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:46pm:
That's all you have left? I know I've won then. I'm not the one that said SS couples did "exactly" the same things as opposite sex couples. You don't even have the balls to admit he was wrong and I'm trolling? He made a claim, I'm disputing it, there is no trolling in that. Your grasp of reality is slipping, or is it that you are running out of supporters and will even lower yourself to this level to keep what you have? Use a dictionary, support his claim without ad homs. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:01pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:53pm:
And on and on and on and on it goes.....just like with PMs. You never just take the point and leave it. Nah, not you. You have to be a half smart arse. Congratulations you are right. SS do not do exactly the same as HS.......they each do the same acts....the only perfectly obvious distinction is that they confine those same acts within SS or HS. Happy now? I'll bet not. You will not let it rest there. Go for it Big Boy, strut your stupidity, again. Why you bother is way beyond me. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:03pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Thank you. Wasn't so hard was it? Aussie says you lost Gregg. Show us that knee deep mud dance again. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:07pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 8:29pm:
With hetero couples, one of them usually has a clitoris which may or may not be pierced. SS couples would usually have 2 clits or no clits at all. Hope this helps. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:11pm Gordon wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
I'm starting to wonder about Gregg, it seems he would feel "exactly" the same rubbing genitals with a man. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:12pm Gordon wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:07pm:
So don't debate, a player straight You know he really doesn't get it anyway He's gonna play the field, and keep it real For you no way, for you no way So if you don't rate, just overcompensate At least you'll know you can always go on Ricki Lake The world needs wannabe's The world loves wannabe's So let's get some more wannabe's And do that brand new thing |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:19pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:11pm:
And if he does? Who cares? You? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:22pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:19pm:
Not me. Go for it Gregg, I'm assured it's "exactly" the same as pussy but I don't trust the source. Ever given it a go Aussie? Can you speak from experience? A little mutual foreskin fucking? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by freediver on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:41pm
Has folau lined up another agency for people to donate through?
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:46pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:22pm:
No...why would you even ask? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:46pm freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
Probably his local church and it's affiliates. I couldn't care really, it's two ideologically opposed groups I don't have any interest in fighting it out. Religion and the perpetually offended. They have more in common than they would like to admit. I wonder why the other list of people he said were going to hell haven't taken him to task. Atheists apparently are going to hell but I'm not offended, I just think he's a fool, I'm not going to bother about what he thinks of me. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:47pm freediver wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
Very likely. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:53pm Aussie wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:46pm:
Just "wondering" if it was the same as rubbing genitals with females. Gregg assured us it was "exactly" the same so I thought I'd ask seeing as you defended his position for so long. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:05pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:46pm:
But Setanta - you still have time to repent. Sorry for the edit Bobby. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:10pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:05pm:
Oooh, if I was to believe Aussie I meet 4 of the list, half of them! Why aren't I outraged?! |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:13pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 9:53pm:
Aussie never saw this movie I guess. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3wcxHiorJ4 |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:19pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:10pm:
Repent now for the end is nigh. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:22pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:19pm:
I'll get right on that when I finish my with atheism, adultery, drunkeness and lying. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:23pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:10pm:
Does sex with a married woman when you're single make you an adulterer, or just a fornicator? On behalf of all the fornicators out there, I'd like to denounce his fornophobic post. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Setanta on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:27pm Gordon wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:23pm:
I'm suspecting both you hell bound sinner. I hope there are no more sins you carry on your shoulders you have not mentioned. Might help if you say four "Our Fathers" and 30 "Hail Marys", now go and sin in peace my son. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:32pm Setanta wrote on Jun 24th, 2019 at 10:27pm:
I'm an atheists of course. I've never been a drinker but back in the party days I put some drugs away but I suspect Izzy would approve of my clean status these days. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:13am Fleecing Folau Foul The people have spoken, and now Folau should listen "Late in the eighth round, just as both sides in Israel Folau & co v The Bulk of the Australian People were wearying, suddenly a cry from the referee goes up! "Technical foul! Low blow from Folau!" |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:14am All you happy clappers, don't despair. The Australia Christian Lobby are now assisting with the Folau Fleecing Fiasco. Get your credit cards out again suckers. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:54am
If people want to give him money, that's their business
their business Go Fund Me are on the nose they'll pay the price lots of other go fund me type orgs around Don't know why greg's so bent out of shape about it people do what they want with their own money unless greg's jealous of Folau and the support he's been given? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:25am PZ547 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:54am:
That's right. That's why I gave all you happy clappers the heads up on the ACL. Get your credit cards out and start donating to this poor misunderstood young man. He needs all the help he can get. Let's face it, his God let him down pretty badly. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:30am PZ547 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:54am:
Greg doesn't like it when people stand up to lgbti. No yes voter does. My sister inlaw is dead to us now. Why? At the time of referendum she posted up on my wife's facebook that if you don't agree with us, you're against us, you're no friend of ours! Catch ya c#$t. It was posted so everyone could see it. Well, a lot of us dropped off and do not talk to her anymore. Extremism at its finest....and the funny thing is...my brother HATES it all too....but his balls are in her purse and will not speak up. ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:36am Captain Caveman wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:30am:
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:37am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:25am:
Good morning greg people don't need your permission or approval, by the way As to Folau and his tatts and crustaceans, I'm sure he's been reminded of those transgressions against his god the tatts look as if they're tribal/traditional etc. and he might not have known about the prohibition against crustaceans at the time who knows why he's adopted his recent stance. Maybe he's begun to take his religion more seriously of late and nothing like the zeal of the new convert as they say the tatts might not -- in his mind -- fall into the same category as the non-traditional skin art he sees around him -- who knows maybe he plans to have his extensive tatts deleted at some point, when he has the recovery time to do so, or when he has the money or when he feels he must make a choice between tribal/traditional and his god's admonition Personally, it would be impossible for me to preach on one hand yet be visibly contravening that which I preached. It would take a personal blind spot or a lot of nerve or the belief that regardless of my own transgressions I felt it imperative that I speak God's word despite it appearing I were an hypocrite maybe Folau has reconciled these matters and God's word won, who knows Who knows why people support him financially? Maybe people are up to here with overbearing others dictating to rank and file? Maybe they send money as a spit in the eye to PC? Maybe they feel sporting bodies exert way too much influence when all they are, at best, is entertainment which appeals to a fraction of the population? Maybe they admire Folau? who knows it's a storm in a tea cup. just more bread and circuses but those who chose to donate to his Go Fund Me fundraiser were obviously motivated to do so, for a variety of reasons. And Go Fund Me is now the bad guy and is regarded as compromised and leaned-upon I haven't donated. I don't give a rat's for football or most other sport but I support those who supported Folau because it's their right and prerogative to do so without cocked-up interference |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:43am PZ547 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:37am:
Really? I've seen nothing but widespread praise for them. The Fleecing Folau Fella barely had 10,000 supporters. GoFundMe have in excess of 95,000 people publicly supporting them on this issue. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:52am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:43am:
You continually cite numbers Seems to me in this instance, 'numbers' are the last refuge of ... and seems to me also, correct me if I'm wrong, that your entire thrust in this issue has nothing to do with Folau or his religion but instead is the LGBTIxxxx slap in the face aspect which is too bad because it's something you must experience daily if not hourly The fact remains, the overwhelming majority (in the region of 98 to 97.5%) are heterosexual and have no intention of changing Soros and his ilk most likely have to use extra strength Viagra simply in order to masturbate they're rotting in their own skins whilst trying to give the impression they're living beings they're going into the Afterlife sewage pits, as they know and they are using their stolen money, their true god, in an attempt to drag as many humans down with them not going to work the odd bod 1.5-2% must make the best of their existence. Heterosexuals do not envy them their lot, believe me LGBTIzzzzz will remain a depressed minority with the highest rates of suicide. I do sympathise with them. It's not a condition I'd choose. Some are born that way and I'm sure God doesn't judge them for it. Others choose to be that way and that's what Folau is talking about If nothing else, Folau has put the matter before the people, brought God's warnings to public attention in a way no cleric has for many a year and there are no doubt people dabbling in the LGBTIzzzz lifestyle who were unaware that God condemns it so Folau has won he may lose the battle, but he's already won the war |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by xeej on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:58am
Oh diddums the precious homos are all in a fluster because someone told them they are going to hell, hehehe.
I am not seeing the other groups he condemned to go to hell kicking up much of a fuss. Our fags are very very special in this the most PC country in the world, God bless them, kisses and hugs. I have some special band aids here to help heal the deep wounds. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:07am Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:58am:
Atheists too. But as has been stated this is a breach of contract issue, not a freedom of speech issue. Coupled with that the sheer dickheadedness of Folau doing this. 1) The Australian reported his legal fees would cost 500K max, so why is he asking for $3M 2) He has a multimillion dollar property portfolio which could be easily used to fund the 500,000 3) The fine print on his GoFundMe page clearly stated that there was to be no return of the money and that there was no guarantee the money would be used in his legal campaign, so why are people donating? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:11am
Homofascism: the belief that people should lose their jobs because of their religious beliefs in the name of inclusiveness.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:13am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:07am:
Yet the news reported yesterday that Go Fund Me was going to return all monies to those who'd donated |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:13am freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:11am:
Again, thats not what happened here. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:14am Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:58am:
I don't see the homosexuals kicking up much of a fuss. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:14am PZ547 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:13am:
Only because GoFundMe shut the donation down. If it wasn't shut down, there would be no return of the money |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by xeej on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:14am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:07am:
People are donating because it IS suppressing freedom of speech and perhaps there are more people of Christian values out there than was expected. The new fund site has now raised $204,500 and it only opened at midnight. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:15am Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:14am:
But siunce it isn't about freedom of speech, people are stupid. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by xeej on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:16am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:14am:
Really!!! |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:19am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:13am:
That seems to be the real reason, if not the justification given. Alternatively, if you want to stick to the official excuse, it fails the reciprocity test. If we lived in a more conservative and reactionary religious society, would the people defending Israel's sacking also defend someone getting fired for claiming gays don't go to hell? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:23am Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:16am:
Yes, really. Do you have some examples? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:25am Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:14am:
Less than 10,000 happy clappers gave Fleecing Folau money. More than 95,000 people asked GoFundMe to close his appeal. He has very little support, as far as I can see. Even his God has abandoned him. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:28am freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:19am:
Well it wouldnt break the ARUs social media policy for one. So your hypothetical situation wouldn't exist. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:34am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:25am:
Why shut him down? Just because they don't like his religious beliefs? That's bordering on fascism. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:35am Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:34am:
That's not why he was shut down. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by xeej on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:37am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:25am:
The 95,000 are the PC mob, they come out at every opportunity like last year when they gave the school money that encouraged boys to wear skirts, they are living in an alternate universe. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:38am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:35am:
why then? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:42am Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:38am:
Breach of contract. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:42am Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:38am:
I told you yesterday: he violated their Terms & Conditions. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:44am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:42am:
please explain? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:47am GoFundMe Terms & Conditions "you agree not to use the Services to ... ... raise funds or establish or contribute to any Campaign with the implicit or explicit purpose of or involving ... ... campaigns we deem, in our sole discretion, to be in support of, or for the legal defense of alleged crimes associated with hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender or gender identity, or serious disabilities or diseases ..." They had every right to shut him down. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:48am
Social media policy within his contract.
Let me describe an analogy. As a university lecturer, I signed a contract stating I would not have a relationship with a student I teach. Now assuming legal age and consent, if I was to do so I would not be breaking any laws, but I would be breaking the contract I signed. Folau signed a contract in which he agreed to get paid to play rugby and appear for sponsors and live up to the culture of the ARU. By posting he broke that contract. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:53am
Folau GoFundMe appeal shut down by crowdfunding site
By Tom Decent Updated June 24, 2019 — 2.05pmfirst published at 10.32am Share on Facebook Israel Folau's controversial appeal for financial assistance for his legal fight against Rugby Australia has been shut down by GoFundMe Australia, with more than $650,000 in funds donated to the sacked rugby star expected to be refunded. Rugby Australia terminated Folau's multimillion-dollar contract last month after he posted a photo to Instagram in April that said homosexuals were destined for hell unless they repented of their sins. olau, 30, launched legal proceedings with the Fair Work Commission and said that, if a deal is not struck with RA, he would take the matter to the High Court. He set up the GoFundMe page in the hope of receiving $3 million in donations. But GoFundMe Australia released a statement to the Herald on Monday saying the Folau appeal breached the organisation's terms and conditions. "Today we will be closing Israel Folau’s campaign and issuing full refunds to all donors. After a routine period of evaluation, we have concluded that this campaign violates our terms of service," GoFundMe Australia regional manager Nicola Britton said. "As a company, we are absolutely committed to the fight for equality for LGBTIQ+ people and fostering an environment of inclusivity. "While we welcome GoFundMes engaging in diverse civil debate, we do not tolerate the promotion of discrimination or exclusion. "In the days since Mr Folau's campaign launched, more than one million dollars have been donated to hundreds of other campaigns, large and small, across Australia. Those acts of kindness are the heart of GoFundMe. "Our platform exists to help people help others. Australians have shown themselves to be among the most kind and generous people in the world. We look forward to helping more Australians fundraise for causes they care about in the coming months and years." GoFundMe's fine print says the crowdfunding site cannot be used for "campaigns we deem, in our sole discretion, to be in support of, or for the legal defense of alleged crimes associated with hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation or sex." While Folau's GoFundMe page soared past the $580,000 mark on Saturday, there were growing calls for the "hypocritical" website, which proudly displays a gay pride flag on its social media accounts, to shut down the fundraising exercise. In an Instagram post on Saturday evening, Folau, a multimillionaire, recognised those who had parted with their hard-earned cash for what he has described as "the fight of my life". |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:53am
:D
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:53am |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:55am Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:53am:
Just like I said. So long, Fleecing Folau. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:56am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:47am:
In their sole discretion? What a pack of fascists. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:57am Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:56am:
At least 95,000 people agreed with them. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by barryfromthebush on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:58am
Bum chum
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by xeej on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:06am barryfromthebush wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:58am:
Bum buddy. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:38am He's a bit of a whiny bitch, this Folau the Fleecer fella. "I breached my contract and Rugby Australia sacked me. It's so unfair". "I breached the terms & conditions of GoFundMe and they gave me the flick. It's so unfair". |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by xeej on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:52am
Oops, the new Folau fund nears $500k, bit of a backlash one would have to say is going on here.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by FRED. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:56am Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:52am:
were do you find the new fund? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:58am Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:52am:
Why did his God let him: a) get sacked? b) get booted form GoFundMe? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by xeej on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:00am FRED. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:56am:
It was launched by the Australian Christian Lobby. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by xeej on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:02am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:58am:
God works in mysterious ways. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:10am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:28am:
Why not? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:11am freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:10am:
Why would it? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17am Johnnie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:02am:
Well, at least he's working. Has he kicked in some money for this dole bludger's appeal? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by FRED. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:20am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:17am:
Do you needs some cash ? :D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:21am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:11am:
Because it would be an unpopular statement that the public would react negatively to and harm the business of the advertisers. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:21am FRED. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:20am:
No. Folau the Fleecer does. Haven't you been paying attention? I hope he declares the money to Centrelink. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:23am freediver wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:21am:
You're suggesting a pro-inclusivity statement would harm sponsors? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by FRED. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:26am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:21am:
No. Folau the Fleecer does. Haven't you been paying attention? I hope he declares the money to Centrelink. He doesn't have to he's not on the dole like you wanker! ;) ;) Little colored thing ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:27am
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The good old Aussie Tall Poppy Syndrome plays a role in this as well Yes, he has a lot of money, reportedly he has multiple investment properties, reportedly get im get im cries the mob |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:28am PZ547 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:27am:
No-one is suggesting that he can't appeal the ARUs decision, but does it strike you as hypocritical to have that much money yet cry poor about your legal costs? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:34am FRED. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:26am:
How is he affording to live then? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by FRED. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:34am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:28am:
Maybe people are sick to death of you self rightous c *** and want to throw in a couple of $$ to blow your wee minds ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:36am PZ547 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:27am:
Not with me. I've never heard of this clown before. All I see is some amateur footballer who broke the rules, twice, and now he wants everyone else to take the blame and foot the bill. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:38am FRED. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:34am:
So enabling fraud essentially. Cool. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by FRED. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:41am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:36am:
Well your just a d ickhead amateur footballer on a 4 millon $ contract that you poofters dont like ! :D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by FRED. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:43am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:38am:
What fraud d ickhead! |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:44am FRED. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:41am:
So, he's not on the dole because he's worth millions of dollars? Tell me again why he's fleecing money from happy clappers through GoFundMe and the Australian Christian Lobby. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by FRED. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:50am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:44am:
No ones being fleeced, normal people are sick to death of you self rightous c unts and donating their hard earned to blow you poofter out of the closet ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:57am FRED. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:41am:
How does this guy not get holidays? Spot |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by freediver on Jun 25th, 2019 at 12:09pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:23am:
Read it again. It is a hypothetical, which you claimed would not exist. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Valkie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 5:48pm
I like the fact that every time they try to shut him down
His support gets stronger. Poofters days are numbered.....yay Put them all in the silly house where they belong. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 5:49pm Valkie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 5:48pm:
Explain to me how this is a Folau v Poofter matter? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 25th, 2019 at 5:59pm
Never try to gag Australians. We'll just do the opposite.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:31pm Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 5:59pm:
no ones trying to gag him. He's free to say whatever he wants. Just as Rugby Australia is free set it's own social media policies and 'gofundme' is free to set up their own terms of use. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Frank on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:34pm Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
Isn't this really about Falau versus Pooftahs who believe in Hell? If you don't believe in hell you couldn't possibly be worried about his tweets or about the Bible. But of course it's about the 'diversity-mongers" who cannot stand different views to their own. Imagine if Falau had tweeted that the Tooth Fairy is awaiting all those sinners at the bottom of the garden. Or that Hell awaits those who do not accept anthropogenic global warming. He would be a hero. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:35pm Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
no, it's about Falau breaching his employment contract |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Frank on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:37pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:31pm:
And for religious schools not to hire atheists, drunks, fornicators, homosexuals, etc and demand that employees conform to their ethos. Yes? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:37pm PZ547 wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:27am:
so you dont mind someone with a $7mil investment... begging for money when all he had to do was stop posting his... HATE... comments on instagram.... like it or not if a muslim had posted to same thing it would be called HATE...by the same people lording over Israel...... give money to him by all means....he will take it mark my word...he is after all a good Christian.... a baby who needs medical attention only available in America... is also really worthy of your donation I am wondering how much Israel donated to this babies parents... ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:31pm:
I'm talking about the bigger picture. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Frank on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:35pm:
Is a contract demanding that you do not profess your own views in your own private capacity, in your own private life lawful? Instinctively NO - and we will see it legally clarified at the end of the law case for which he is receiving financial support. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:42pm Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
that ridiculous....what right does Israel have to tell who will or will not go to HELL>. who doesnt happen to meet with his approval... >:( did you notice no mention of trans sexuals...oooops that would be on dodgy ground.. homosexuals are after all open GAME for pulling down... |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:44pm Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
Of course it is. Businesses have been doing it for years. It's not the first time someone has tried to claim wrongful dismissal because of it. I'm not aware of any case where the employee ever won after being made aware that it was against company policy. If you represent them, you abide their rules. Otherwise stop taking their money and post away whatever you like on facebook. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:47pm
What does the dick hope to achieve? Does he really hope to get back to being in the Team? He is no chance. He will be shunned...he has 'lost the dressing room.'
Or is it dollars? Or is it martyrdom? In 400 years, will he be regarded as the Second Coming? Bobby? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:52pm Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:39pm:
Raven would argue that a business or organisation has a right to expect it's employees do not bring the business into disrepute. Almost every company has policies it expects it's employees to abide by. A lot of them around social media. Had Falau expressed his views in a more private fashion we would not have this conversation. This is not the first time he has made comments that concerned Rugby Australia. They asked him not to do it again and when he did they took action. This is not about freedom of speech or freedom of religion. He was perfectly free to say whatever he liked — but not be free from consequences. The fact of the matter is Folau signed a contract with his employer, for which he was paid handsomely, and made a series of commitments to not bring the sport into disrepute, not to distract from his on-field activities, and not to target specific groups in a hateful or offensive way. He breached the terms of that contract and Rugby Australia responded. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:00pm Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:47pm:
It's the money. Falau was happy to ignore his religious beliefs when, in an effort to boost his profile and secure lucrative sponsorships, he appeared on the front page of gay magazine the Star Observer under the headline "Big Boys and their Balls" |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:01pm
falau on the cover of a gay magazine ... guess he wasn't worried about sinners while they were paying him :D :D
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/4b4033376744109ac6fa2f4afcf0083e?width=650 |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:05pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:01pm:
Another hypochristian. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Frank on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:17pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:44pm:
And to think that for all those years I thought you were some lefty proto-socialist and here you are, a complete and abject advocate for corporatism and business supremacy even in the spheres of conscience and public discourse. So when your boss says no union on my shop floor, no gay propaganda, no trannie propaganda - you are cool with that. Of course not. This case brings out all the schizophrenics and the two-faced and thee yea-but-no-but shill like you. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:23pm Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:17pm:
With the exception of the first*...yes I am okay with that. If I don't like his Rules, I don't work for or get paid by him. *I suspect it is illegal to ban Unions from the workplace. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Frank on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:25pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:01pm:
Do you have the article that went with that cover? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Frank on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:27pm Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:23pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Brave Arse - happy to be anti-union but will never say no to bending over. KARNAAAAL!!!!! |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:27pm
For all you Ozpolitic sinners -
repent now for the end is nigh. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:28pm Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:25pm:
Here is some insight. Link. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:42pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:27pm:
I'm an atheist and used to be a fornicator. When the time comes, can I repent on my death bed? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:45pm
$1.2m now.
Rugby Australia should have just tweeted "Yeah, Izzy is a dickhead but we love the way he plays footy. Ignore the rubbish he writes but enjoy his skills." |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:49pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:42pm:
It has to be now because the signs of the End Times are everywhere. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:50pm
If I lie to the priest when I'm repenting, will god know?
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:51pm Frank wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:17pm:
I'm not advocating anything, I'm just telling you how it is right now. You can pretend it's about freedom of speech if you like, but you'd just be bullshitting to yourself like you normally do. Of course, a case like this always bring out the schizophrenics and the two-faced and thee yea-but-no-but shill like you who advocate for free speech, but not if it in any way hinders your own agenda. :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:59pm
Good, us Christians are starting to be heard.
We have had enough of being ridiculed. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:02pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:50pm:
God knows when you lie. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:03pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:59pm:
Stuffed if I have heard whatever message you 'Christians' have sent. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:04pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:02pm:
how do you know? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:04pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:02pm:
Did he know that Izzy's Contract was gonna be shredded? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:05pm Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 6:47pm:
He just seems to be an attention whore. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:06pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:59pm:
what makes you believe that crap? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:06pm Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:04pm:
Yes and already Izzy has raised over $1 million on another website with God's help. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:07pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
I hope he declares it to Centrelink next week. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:09pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
Really? How much did God chip in Bobby? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:09pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 7:59pm:
Starting to be heard? You've been heard for close to 2000 years. Virtually all of which you've gotten a free ride. Now you get super sad because the last 40 odd years sees people change their attitude to your religion. It must be terrible living in and era where people don't just accept the 'word' |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:11pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
Why didn't God help him keep his job? Why did God let him get booted from GoFundMe? Why does God let him eat prawns and cover his body in tattoos? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:12pm Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
The hand of God guided those who gave money. I suppose you'd call it divine intervention. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:13pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
the churches have more money behind them than almost any other organisation ...what's surprising is not that he has $1m, but that he doesn't have the full $3m he is seeking yet. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:13pm Raven wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:09pm:
What ^^^^^^^ he said. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:23pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:12pm:
Why was there no divine intervention earlier? You know, like before he got sacked? Was God on a smoko break? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:24pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:13pm:
It's only been one day . :D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:25pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Because God works in mysterious ways. Translation: "I literally have no answer to that one." |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:27pm Raven wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:25pm:
Exactly. They never do. Good things happen = "God did it!" Bad things happen = "Ooh, look over there!" |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:33pm
This has really blown up in Rugby Australias face.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:33pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:24pm:
so? $3m is chump change to them. The catholic church alone is estimated to be worth $30B. Plus you have all the other christian churches on top of that. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:34pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
why would they even give a crap about the fund raising dramas? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:37pm
Did Folau actuall say something hateful?
I haven't seen anything actually hateful. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:38pm Valkie wrote on Jun 22nd, 2019 at 8:20am:
That's right, folks. Valkie, the ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:43pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:33pm:
and in 'gofundme' and lgbqit whatever |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:45pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:43pm:
Rugby Australia have handled it terribly. They could have just said ignore his religious views, enjoy his footy. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:49pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:37pm:
Yes. How come you don't know what he said? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:49pm Rugby Australia must be devastated. They got rid of a second rate, amateur (at best) footballer, and saved a heap of dough. ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:51pm Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:49pm:
Oh, did he wish harm on his list of offenders? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:52pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:45pm:
But Alan Joyce had something to say about it: |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:52pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:49pm:
Incorrect. He was probably one of the best Union players World wide. Not an amateur. A very highly paid professional. Then he schat in his own nest. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:53pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:51pm:
In his terms...absolutely. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:55pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:37pm:
not really It was not 'inclusive' though. Taken in context, Israel also confessed he was a sinner during those postigs. He was not being abusive or hateful in himself. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:57pm |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:57pm Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:52pm:
Bullshit. Never heard of this little crybaby bitch before he started attacking homosexuals. He's just a boring little attention whore who blames everyone else for his own stupid mistakes, and expects everyone else to clean up his mess afterwards. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:59pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:55pm:
it's irrelevant if it was 'abusive' or 'hateful'. He was previously warned not to post anything on social media that didn't meet 'rugby australias' own charter of inclusiveness. He thought he was untouchable and ignored that warning and is now paying the price. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:59pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:57pm:
I just donated -$1M, but I did add thought and prayer. ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:59pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:57pm:
is going viral |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:00pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:57pm:
Will do. https://www.gofundme.com/f/forlove-aus I gave $20. Will kick in some more on the weekend. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:01pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:57pm:
;D ;D ;D Sorry Greg, but I'm not sure if you're a good barometer on famous rugby players ... :D :D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:02pm Aussie wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 8:53pm:
He was only warning them of the fait which will befall them, according to his belief. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:03pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
No such thing in WA. This guy is a famous attention whore (and whiny little bitch). Nothing more. Don't forget to donate: https://www.gofundme.com/f/forlove-aus |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:03pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:02pm:
and in doing so breached his employment contract ::) |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:05pm Quote:
https://www.acl.org.au/donate_izzy |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:05pm |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:08pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:00pm:
Greggy donated money to poofs. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:10pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:08pm:
greg is a proven liar. I disbelieve anything he says |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:12pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:08pm:
how much did he give you? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:12pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:10pm:
Of course he's a liar. Give money for the legal case - give till it hurts then give more. https://www.acl.org.au/donate_izzy |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:13pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
I asked if he wished the people on his list harm. Was it hate speech? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:14pm
RA should have just stuck to rugby.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:16pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:13pm:
your question is irrelevant either way. He breached his contract. That's all this is about. Everything else is fodder used to get the christian right and other like minded idiots into a lather. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Abu on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:23pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:10pm:
CESTERETE THEM. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:27pm
https://youtu.be/bNpXwQzDwxQ
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by xeej on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:32pm Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:23pm:
Why don't you just CASTERETE everybody Abu? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:40pm John Smith wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:16pm:
It will be very relevant when Izzy sues RA. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:41pm
The pink mafia are even gunning for his wife to end her netball career.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:13pm
Why should you get a free ride just because you hear voices and believe in an invisible man in the sky?
Falau signed a contract and was paid handsomely. All Rugby Australia asked was he abide by their code of conduct. The code of conduct imposes obligations which are quite typical of many employers these days, including not engaging in behaviour that is disrespectful or reflects badly on the employer. The code also talks about not being offensive in the way you engage in public debate. Let's look at a few of the conditions Falau agreed to abide by when he signed his contract. "Treat everyone equally, fairly and with dignity regardless of gender or gender identity, sexual orientation, ethnicity, cultural or religious background, age or disability. Any form of bullying, harassment or discrimination has no place in rugby.” "Use social media appropriately. By all means share your positive experiences of rugby but do not use social media as a means to breach any of the expectations or requirements of you as a player contained in this code.” "Do not otherwise act in a way that may adversely affect or reflect on, or bring you, your team, club, rugby body or rugby into disrepute or discredit.” He thinks he lost his job because he believes in God? Boo f.ucking hoo. People have lost their lives because they don't believe in God. All he lost was money. But as Falau has shown in the past, money can move him more than God. But what does Jesus say about homosexuality? Nothing. If the "son of god" doesn't think it's important then why should you? More importantly why should the general public have to be exposed to and accept the religious obsession with sex. And they are obsessed with it. Whose having it, how their having it and who they are having it with. At the end of the day Falau made a promise to Rugby Australia, a promise he broke more than once. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:12pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
It's unlikely anything will come of that. The Silver Ferns will understand a wife defending her husband. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:26pm Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
Jesus god - is there no class left in society? Politicians screech about not involving their families, but it's fair game for the poof spin doctors, funded BY government? Go Israel! Stick it to 'em ..... |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:31pm Raven wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 10:13pm:
Where did it say he could not make a personal statement of personal religious belief? Countless mullahs and even local Indigenes do that all the time.... and nobody says 'boo'.... it's a secred site, bro... you carn challenge dat... it's our heritage, ya know an' we knew it 'fore da Wahrte man come along, so he ain't got no say... we wan' it NOW! Dis len' was alwus Aboriginal len ..... it is the holy duty of all Muslims to behead and slaughter the Infidel and as a superior and more worthy person all Muslims must obey the law of Allah... Any of them pricks get their contract terminated and their life and wife attacked? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:32pm Raven wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:12pm:
Good thing she's not on the pistol shooting team... This one's for |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:35pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 11:31pm:
Any of those pricks got a contract? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:38am |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 6:25am Bobby. wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:08pm:
Valkie donated money to lawyers ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:55am Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
pink mafia rubbish...a sponsor has every right to make their position clear... she commented in the open public arena and thats all either of them have been asked not to do... I do not see anything intimidating about that at all.. if Folau was a Muslim you would all be up in arms...screaming for his blood... TOLERANCE is that what Christianity is all about... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ok gordy back to the PINK MAFIA>.. >:( >:( pink bashing |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:57am Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:38am:
gosh hes black to boot.. >:( >:( I guess begging for money when you are a millionaire isnt the same as robbing someone when you havent the money to feed yourself..... a top QC so you can keep earning more millions is the way to go.... maybe we should all try it. >:( |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:05am Gordon wrote on Jun 25th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
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hahhaha |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:27am
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gotta say this is interesting The Aussies are riled about bloody time they got riled and good on them |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:29am cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:57am:
Pathetic, isn't it? How stupid are the happy clappers donating, though? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:33am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:29am:
Expected better from you greggery good morning by the way |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:34am PZ547 wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:33am:
Which part offended you? Good morning. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:41am PZ547 wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:27am:
Good work from people who stand up for the right of free speech. There is such a thing as an illegal contract. It's amazing that our resident lawyer didn't point that out. Examples: To pay a penalty for breaking a contract by having a pound of flesh cut off from your body. For a husband to cut his wife out of a Will and give everything to the dogs home. The court may decide that to remove someone's free speech is also illegal. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:42am Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:41am:
Don't hold your breath, Bobby. Actually ... |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:55am Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:41am:
The Australian Constitution does not explicitly protect freedom of expression. However, the High Court has held that an implied freedom of political communication exists as an indispensible part of the system of representative and responsible government created by the Constitution. It operates as a freedom from government restraint, rather than a right conferred directly on individuals. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:58am
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governments are owned they mouth scripts written by others and they must obey, must, or they know they'll be removed, replaced, defamed, destroyed that being the case as we all know is the case this latest development will have thrown our puppet politicians into a tizzy no doubt they are awaiting their next raft of directions from their overseas masters after which they will read the scripts Be interesting to hear what they have to say Meanwhile, Aussies are writing the script for a change and doing so loud and clear As did Hong Kongians |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:02am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:29am:
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:08am Raven wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:55am:
so are you in favor of say a very religious Muslim telling infidels to go to HELL in the open market place?... ::) ::) ::) because when it some to FOS....its cannot stipulate only this religion or that religion can speak at will in the open public arena... it doesnt work like that.. the constitution has nothing to do with this... this is about a man made law...and deep down we all know there is no such thing as FOS> |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:10am cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:08am:
Cods, i imagine any particularly outspoken Muslim would have similar contract stipulations as Folau. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:11am Raven wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:55am:
This case may end up in the High Court. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:16am Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:41am:
Interesting observation. Employment contract lawyers are now saying that code of conduct clauses are becoming too all encompassing and going into areas they have no right. If you don't like the contract a burger chain offers you can go to another burger chain. If you're a top rugby union player there are no other choices. Rugby Australia is going to be shredded in court. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:18am Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:11am:
Is that what the High Court should be used for? Ignorant has-been footballers who breach employment contracts (and website terms & conditions) who then blame everyone else for their mistakes and demand that others pay for those mistakes? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:33am
quote Cods:
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You're sounding more retarded by the day, Cods why don't you acquaint yourself with what Folau said before you start your faux 'rage' At no point did Folau tell anyone to 'go to hell' …. 'open marketplace' or elsewhere. And what do you mean by 'open marketplace' --- are you trying to sound like something? what 'open marketplace' are you referring to? Do you even know? So back to Folau Maybe this will be the very first time you'll actually read what he actually said. Thank me later: Quote:
Folau says suggestions he is "homophobic and bigoted" could "not be further from the truth". He also wrote that some of the criticism he's faced since making the comment has been "pretty heavy". So, what did Israel Folau say? In a post to Instagram, his image read: “Warning: Drunks. Homosexuals. Adulterers. Liars. Fornicators. Thieves. Atheists. Idolaters. Hell awaits you.”[/quote] Quote:
Will go to hell --- unless they repent of their sins and turn to God and that included adulterers, liars, thieves, drunks, fornicators, adolaters, etc. The salient part being 'repent' and 'turn to God' in other words, they will be saved if they repent and bend their stiff necks and turn to God If they don't want to repent -- if they don't want God's forgiveness which leads them to Heaven then it's their choice to go to Hell simple Too hard, after stealing, lying, worshipping false gods, denying God, drunkeness and all it leads to, etc. to simply say 'sorry' and turn to their enternal salvation? Too hard to admit they did wrong? Do they believe they can deny God, live a dissolute life, spit in God's face and STILL get to Heaven? What are they WHINING about? Repent and go to Heaven Refuse to repent and go to Hell Their choice. And they'll have to live with it Instead they demand all their own way and blame the messenger, who in this case is Folau entitlement |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:33am Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:16am:
Other than France, the UK, Japan, NZ |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:38am Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:16am:
Thanks Gordon, All companies are putting far more fine print into contracts these days. They want to own your soul. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:40am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:33am:
He wants to play international rugby for the country he was born in. Is there another Australia? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:41am Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:38am:
As far as I know, no companies are holding a gun to people's heads in order to make them sign, or stay. Don't like the contract? Walk away. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:42am
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Folau said --- and it's on record that if thieves, liars, fornicators, adolaters, drunks, etc. do not repent and turn to God they will go to Hell which they will, according to the Bible which in turn is based in much older beliefs this is not a gay issue anymore than it's a drunk issue an adulterer issue an idolator issue a liar issue etc. Appears those who're donating to Folau are the only ones aware of what he said -- from where he drew it -- and what it means Folau is being defamed yet he's merely the messenger |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:43am
For Cods.
Right when the story first broke the pink mafia were gunning for his wife but her team mates and other NZ netballers straight and gay all backed her and said she's never shown discrimination to any player. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:44am Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:43am:
correct |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:46am Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:40am:
So why is he suing for money then, not the chance to play international rugby again. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:50am
Plus as well this ios a guy so desperately keen to play international rugby union for his country, that he played rugby league til he was 21, then was so desperate to play international rugby union at 21, that he signed a 4 year contract to play AFL, then turned out to be so bad at that that he went to the only sport capable of paying him big money at the time, that being union.
Spare me, this has zero to do with the honour of playing for the Wallabies and all about the multimillion dollar contracts he's on. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:52am
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To be suspected is that mainstream media and what it represents is attempting to mislead idolatry, for example that was mentioned by Folau as reason to repent and turn to God Idolatry was covered extensively in the Bible 'golden calf' for example worship of many gods, leading the people astray Idolatry exists today in the form of 'celebrities', of 'influencers', pop stars, movies stars, billionaires and a raft of others, all of whom are promoted and in fact created by the mainstream media Folau, as a messenger of his beliefs was warning idolators to turn to the true God and repent their worship/obsession with false gods Political parties could be described as false gods -- the slavish support and defence in which many engage, as they do with sports stars and teams Folau said to keep your eye on the ball -- you might have fallen by the wayside but God will forgive and accept if you repent and turn your face to Him Folau said nothing different to what most clergy preach and have preached to congregations Don't lie Don't steal Don't bear false witness etc good advice for anyone hoping to tread their path through this life and plane with teh least damage to themselves and their eternal soul |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:53am PZ547 wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:52am:
Really, I thought just don't be arseholes to others would be fine enough. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:59am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:46am:
Because the coach said they wouldn't play him regardless of his contract and we sue for money in lieu of many kinds of loss. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:03am Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:59am:
I'm guessing the other strong Christian in the team wouldn't exactly get along with him. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:03am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:53am:
That would be open to interpretation Everyone might decide to jettison this part and include something else In any case, it's covered under: 'Do unto othes are you would have others do unto you' A drunk for example, might choose to decide that his drinking to excess 'isn't hurting anyone' oh no? And when he drives into that happy family returning from a family party and kills them all --- what then for his interpretation of what the Bible says God means? The druggie might decide his drugs are his business and everyone else should butt out. So when he goes mental, breaks into a home and kills in order to get money for 'his own business' drug habit --- what then? He's made others pay for his addiction in the same way the drunk did How about when people beg the judge to take into account that they were under the influence of drugs/drink when they stabbed a stranger who was simply on his way to work? Who paid for the druggie-drunkard's addiction and why should anyone have to pay for his addiction, let alone pay with their life? That's why -- when people are dicing with their eternal soul -- they wish they'd considered others, followed the few rules. Yet even when they've stuffed up badly, they're still offered a hand by God, who simply needs for them to truly repent and accept they were wrong they might have believed they were 'not being arseholes to others' -- but they were and others paid for the fact they were arseholes and if they want to remain arseholes and go to hell when their body quits on them --- fine. Let 'em |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:04am
drunk for example, might choose to decide that his drinking to excess 'isn't hurting anyone'
oh no? And when he drives into that happy family returning from a family party and kills them all --- what then for his interpretation of what the Bible says God means? You do realise that means he is hurting someone. If he drinks at home, never leaves home, never drink drives, never bashes anyone, is he hurting anyone? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:15am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:04am:
Who are we talking about --- the responsible drinker who knows when he's had enough? Or the habitual drunk who drinks to excess at every opportunity, drinks on the job, does a bad job, blames someone else, skates by until finally he's sacked and then the house is in arrears and his family have to leave and live a life of uncertainty and poverty, shame etc. while the drunk somehow manages to steal or withhold some welfare money in order to slurp some more on his alcohol-god/ If you object to drinking as an example, we could instead discuss the habitual, compulsive gambler who keeps his family/himself in poverty because he can't cast off his gambling-god no matter how low that gambling-god drags him down the sewer via theft, embezzlement, etc The shoplifting-god, the gluttony-god, the spite-god, the god-of-lies, the god-of-boasting, the god-of-maliciousness, etc. false gods there to destroy not only the life of the fallen but also those with whom they're associated the false-gods are there to destroy and keep the fallen away from God and eternal salvation false-gods are everywhere mobile phones are false gods porn is a false god Self-love is a false god false gods everywhere, to distract until it's too late pride -- a big false god. And it's pride which caused the demonisation of Folau --- all those who believe they or their family member is too important to repent to save themselves Why should we repent, they ask. We make up our own minds about what is right and wrong. No one tells us what to do ok. let them have it their way. Only God actually cares what happens to them -- and of course, so does Folau in this instance |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:16am
r the habitual drunk who drinks to excess at every opportunity, drinks on the job, does a bad job, blames someone else, skates by until finally he's sacked and then the house is in arrears and his family have to leave and live a life of uncertainty and poverty, shame etc. while the drunk somehow manages to steal or withhold some welfare money in order to slurp some more on his alcohol-god/
That harms people, that fits my definition. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:21am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:41am:
Great idea - then try and get a few pennies from Centerlink? Employers have people over a barrel. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by PZ547 on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:22am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:16am:
It does and many of us have suffered the drunks' fallout (or the gambler's fallout or the adulterer's etc. fallout) many of us have spent the best part of our lives either suffering the fallout or trying to dodge it or trying to help |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:49am cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:08am:
Everyone is free to say what they want. However in every democracy on the planet freedom of speech does not mean freedom from consequence. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. Yes you can say what you want but be prepared for the consequences of what you say. Yes a Muslim Cleric can preach hate in a market place. As can a Christian Minister. Freedom of speech means the government can not stop you from saying something. It does not mean you can not be held accountable for what you say. Now if this Muslim Cleric or Christian Minister moonlights for an organisation that thinks that what the Muslim or Christian has said impacts negatively on their business then they reserve the right to discipline their employee, be it a warning or dismissal. Falau can say what he wants, he is still free to say what he wants. But he needs to be prepared to stand accountable for what he says and not hide behind his religion. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:51am Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:21am:
Thats the nature of private organisations. You don't like your workplaces culture, you don't have to work for them. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:00am Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:43am:
well the first I have seen is the ANZ Banks comments to the Silver Ferns... I havent seen his wife attacked at all.... |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:06am Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:21am:
Well, yes. Welcome to capitalism, Bobby. Exploitation is the name of the game. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:33am Raven wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 10:49am:
of course its the consequences that count......he lost his job his well paying job....why doesnt he go out and become a real estate agent.. or a garbo or a postman.... whats stopping him getting another job... oh thats right could be the money he was paid... ::) ::) and yet those paying him huge sums to chase a ball... have basically no right to ask him not to make statements in the public arena that could hurt their image turn fans against the code that pays him mightily well..... too well as far as i am concerned.. its biting the hand that feeds you...imo....no one is stopping him standing in the pulpit just dont post it thats all they asked... |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:41am cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:00am:
Do a news search a week or two after the story broke. They've been gunning for her from the beginning. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:43am greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:06am:
Greggy, communism is not the answer - laws to protect free speech are. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:51am Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:43am:
Nobody mentioned communism, Bobby. And, freedom of speech is the right to express your opinions. It's not freedom from consequences. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:51am Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:41am:
had she posted any support for her husband??.. she too is in the public eye...she too earned her keep playing sport....she too has obligations to her team to her country to her sponsors.... its the way of the world for professional sportsmen and women..... it is a fact of life they all SIGN CONTRACTS... I do not believe in the attacks by any means and those who do it should be ashamed of themselves.... I consider ozpol to be a private forum and nothing like instagram or twitter.... where most of it is down right violent....but we should also accept that each of us has to be accountable to someone... those who live by the sword!!!!!!.. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:53am
bobby
do you think Israel is also a sinner for his obvious GREED. or do you think God will see this as need not greed..? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:17pm cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:51am:
They went after her before she said a thing, just for being his wife. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:25pm cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:00am:
She hasn't been attacked. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:25pm:
Funny how hyper-vigilant and hypersensitive Gordy is in relation to Folau's wife yet fails to understand the concept or consequence of hate speech. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:51am:
Greggy, You posted a gif of Karl Marx. I know of people who had to sign work contracts that stated that if they invented any new device while the company employed them that the company would own the rights to it - even if it had nothing to do with the companies present business. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:29pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
Was what Izzy said hate speech? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:30pm cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:53am:
Jews are the chosen ones so they're allowed. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:34pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:29pm:
Has his wife been attacked? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:44pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:34pm:
Maria Folau slapped down by ANZ Bank over link to Izzy’s fund-raiser on social media https://www.foxsports.com.au/rugby/maria-folau-slapped-down-by-anz-bank-over-link-to-izzys-fundraiser-on-social-media/news-story/185f7e0350f90836444fbce9adf657ba |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:49pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:44pm:
Jesus. You're absolutely pathetic. If that constitutes an attack, what does condemning people to hell for being sinful constitute? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:08pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:49pm:
Other sponsors are lining up against her too. That's an attack. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:09pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
Yes. Nobody mentioned communism, though. I was talking about exploitation, and Karl Marx is considered the most classical and influential theorist of exploitation. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:10pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:08pm:
No it's not. It's their right to distance themselves from her ideological stance. Or known association with such. Sponsors never endorse players whose conduct is questionable. You clearly disagree but most people understand how offensive Folau is. Just because you agree with him doesn't make him not highly dangerous. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:14pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:10pm:
I'm an athiest so how could I agree that Im going to hell? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:14pm
Yet i see the finer point continues to be lost on you. If what has 'happened' to her constitutes an "attack" ... what does telling people they are going to hell for being sinful constitute?
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:17pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:14pm:
Oh you agree. Maybe not in the hell bit but you agree with the demonisation of that community. At the very least, and i only offer this as a counter to your "I even worked with gays" story line, you refuse to see the damage. Mostly, like all of your kind, because it's not about you and that they try to make you feel bad sometimes. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:18pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:14pm:
It's love speech. He loves them so much he wants to save them from themselves. Not my logic it his. Do you agree? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:19pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:18pm:
No. You idiot. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:19pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:17pm:
In dont believe gays will go to hell either and I harbor no illfeeling towards them. Zero. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:21pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:19pm:
Yeah i know. Just like you're not a racist. You just resent them being uppity and don;t think they should have any particular consideration. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:22pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:19pm:
Neither you or I believe it but fundy Christians do. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:24pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:19pm:
Yes you fool. Unless Izzy saves them they'll burn forever in hellfire and damnation. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:24pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:22pm:
If you think that's their motivation you understand absolutely nothing. Think of it more as akin to your sense of supremacy. You know how i bristle at that? Are you with me here? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:28pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:24pm:
And you have such a proven sense of supremacy you think you have the right to take someone's actual life. Not to mention you are perpetually forgiving people and offering them salvation .. as though you can. Who the hell do you people think you are? Not a charitable bone in your bodies. All judgment. All supremacy. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:31pm
Don't believe me, read up on former Westboro member Megan Phelps. She said they believe so firmly that siners area headed for hell their motivation is to save all sinners.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:32pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:31pm:
I've looked extensively into them, thanks. They exemplify my point. Supremacy. At it's very root. Supremacy. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:34pm
What about Peter Singer?
I assume that is what Folau believes he is doing. He even tells homosexuals that Jesus loves them, and calls on them to repent so that they can avoid burning in hell for eternity. That doesn’t sound like hate speech.. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:35pm
Is peter Singer an idiot too?
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:35pm
WTF has Peter Singer got to do with this, Folau fan-boy?
edit ... reading his article |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:38pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:35pm:
He made the exact point I did. EXACTLY. Is peter Singer an idiot too? https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/rugby-australia-israel-folau-firing-free-speech-by-peter-singer-2019-06 |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by mothra on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:40pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:38pm:
I would say he would completely agree with what i am saying, owing to his having the mental agility to recognise the point. You don't go telling other people how to live unless you think you are better than them. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:46pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:34pm:
yes. It is not hate speech. It is Love Speech |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:46pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:40pm:
He also said Izzy is motivated by saving people, not hate, which is exactly my point. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:51pm
Peter Singer nails it here.
But the post no more expresses hatred toward homosexuals than cigarette warnings express hatred toward smokers. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:51pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:46pm:
It's a straw-man, Sprinty. Folau the Fleecer wasn't sacked for hate speech. He was sacked for a high-level breach of RA’s code of conduct. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:00pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:28pm:
Mothra, Jesus saves not me. Now - repent for the end is nigh. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:15pm
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:18pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:00pm:
It seems that he can't save people's jobs though, or save them from having their GoFundMe pages shut down. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:23pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:35pm:
Still reading? Now, can you please show your working on how your determined that I'm an Izzy fan-boy? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:31pm
Greggy needs to repent more than most people.
Izzy's words will help him avoid damnation. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:38pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:31pm:
Maybe some cash would help me. Can you set up a GoFundMe I'll give you 10%. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:15pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:38pm:
No, because you're a communist. You posted this picture: |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:36pm
i see the idiots are still pretending it's about freedom of speech and hate speech :D :D :D
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:44pm John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:36pm:
Is Peter Singer an idiot? I assume that is what Folau believes he is doing. He even tells homosexuals that Jesus loves them, and calls on them to repent so that they can avoid burning in hell for eternity. That doesn’t sound like hate speech. https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/rugby-australia-israel-folau-firing-free-speech-by-peter-singer-2019-06 |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:45pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 2:31pm:
' for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 and all are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus. ' Romans 3:23 All have fallen short of the Glory of God. It matters not whether you have sinned a little or a lot. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:45pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 1:46pm:
Using threats to get people to do what you want is not love. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:47pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:44pm:
yes |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:48pm Raven wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:45pm:
According to what he believes it's not a threat, it's a warning of an outcome which can't be avoided unless they change their lifestyle. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:49pm John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:47pm:
Really, you're qualified to call a Professor of Bioethics at Princeton University, and a Laureate Professor at the Centre for Applied Philosophy and Public Ethics at the University of Melbourne, an idiot? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:51pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:44pm:
Doesn't sound like love either. Religion and God are a lot like an abusive spouse. Plays tricks to "test" the relationship. Claims they hurt you because they love you. Demands you do as they say without question. If you behave or think in a way in which they disapprove, they threaten you with harm. Isolate you from anyone who disagrees. Tells you this is what true love is. Blames you for their shortcomings. How can anybody think that using threats to get people to do what you want is love? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:03pm
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:06pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
Then Folau is like the brainwashed cult member employing the threats of his master to gain new followers. "You will burn for eternity if you do not do what we say. If you like to know more come to our church on sunday. Bring cash!" |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:07pm Raven wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:51pm:
I'm an atheist and I don't agree with his screwy point of view, but after research I understand it. Also Folau's words. Those that are living in Sin will end up in Hell unless you repent. Jesus Christ loves you and is giving you time to turn away from your sin and come to him.” |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:22pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:07pm:
That is not love "I love you but if you don't love me back and do what I want I will I will make sure you suffer forever." You'd raise an eyebrow if your sister's partner said that to her. It's a lot like the volunteer firefighter who comits arson just so he can be the hero. God is here to save us from the sin he gave us in the first place. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:25pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:49pm:
if he thinks the issue is that the statement is in any way 'hate speech', then yes, he is an idiot. I don't care what title he has before his name. Falaou was sacked because he was asked not to post anything that might be seen as controversial on social media. No one has ever said the comment was hate speech. Why you or any other idiot out there persist with the argument that it isn't hate speech, when no one said it was, is beyond me. Actually, scrub that, I know why you do it, it's to deflect from the real issue. He breached his work place contract. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:40pm John Smith wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
Peter Singer is one of the great thinkers of our time. You? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:43pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:40pm:
did you struggle with my comment perhaps? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:45pm Raven wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:22pm:
Your misunderstanding this, which is easy to do from the point of view of an atheist, which I assume you are. To you or I it's twisted logic but it's not hate. He believes to the very core of his being with 110% certainty that hell awaits the people on his list and the only way for them to avoid eternal damnation is for them to change. It's a bit like someone having a relative heavily addicted to ice or being anorexic. The outcome is very clear if they don't change. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:03pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:45pm:
Raven hasn't said it's hate. It's just not love. Most abusers don't hate the one they are abusing. And many abused think it's love. A battered wife syndrome. "He does it because he loves me." "It's my fault, I need to change." |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:21pm mothra wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 12:28pm:
Folau is entitled to his opinion and his reading and perception of what exactly is meant in the BIBLE.... it isnt what he said as much as he was asked NOT TO DO IT IN PUBLIC....he signed a contract to that affect.. if he is allowed to spout his" CHristian " fears.... who will be next to thumb their noses at rules and contracts??? does anyone have any idea what can of worms this will open in the future?????.. why bother with contracts if someone can pick out the bits they dont want to obey........and do it anyway... ::) ::) ::) good grief... its a huge can of worms... |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:25pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 3:48pm:
he didnt mention the GREEDY did he?.. I wonder what hell awaits the GREEDY.. seems to me gordy he was very selective in his.....well selection... thats all... he who is without SIN may cast the first stone... me thinks Folau hasnt got to that section yet.. ::) ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:32pm cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:25pm:
Here ya go cods. Something about Seven Deadly Sins. Link. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:32pm Gordon wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 4:45pm:
HELL is that so gordy?........looks like an awful lot of us will go to HELL.....so God has no mercy its all about revenge... ::) ::) I do believe in....... something more powerful than us..so I call him GOD.... when I feel I need something to happen need a bit of help.... say for the sake of one of my family... yeah I do ask GOD in my way.. is that bad I dont know?.. and as an atheist do you not ever seek any intervention ever at all?..... |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:05pm
I wonder if Israel will donate any of his Go Fund Me money to the family who lost 3 of their beautiful children today in a fire in Singleton.....
we seem to have strange ideas of priority these days... Israel raised almost half a million in two hours this family $14.000....... :'( :'( I know where my money is going. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:31pm cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:05pm:
In Folau's case.....not a chance in Hell. I wonder if the ACL will start a 'gofundme' for that Family and start it off with $100,000.00? Not a chance in Hell. Priorities are fuqqed. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by barryfromthebush on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:44pm Aussie wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:32pm:
Do you wonder about clit piercings Aussie? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Gordon on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:49pm cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 5:32pm:
Can you tidy that up a bit, I really don't understand :) |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:21pm cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 7:05pm:
He won't donate a cent to anyone. He's a very greedy, very immoral, little man. By the way, another good post from cods. That's about 10 today. Who are you, and what have you done with our cods? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by John Smith on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:22pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Raven on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:08pm
“The Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission has been asked to investigate the Australian Christian Lobby over its role in helping Israel Folau raise more than a million dollars for his legal fight against Rugby Australia (RA).
Folau raked in more than $1.5 million in donations on Tuesday through a relaunched ACL fundraising platform, despite having a GoFundMe page banned on Monday due to a breach of the website’s terms and conditions. It was also revealed on Tuesday that Australia’s largest crowdfunding platform, MyCause, also knocked back an initial request from Folau’s camp to relaunch his fighting fund… … In a statement, the commission said it "expected all registered charities to meet their obligations under the ACNC Act and the Governance Standards". “The ACNC can investigate concerns that a charity has breached the ACNC Act or the Governance Standards," the statement said. "This may include not pursuing its charitable purpose, not operating in a not-for-profit manner, or providing private benefits to members." According to the ACNC, a charity must be able to show that the use of its funds furthers the charitable purpose in which it is registered, meaning the ACL would need to prove it is “advancing religion”, for example, by agreeing to help raise money for Folau’s individual purposes… … Meanwhile, Folau may be able to claim some of the legal expenses used to fight his wrongful dismissal action as a tax deduction, while keeping the donations. Industry body Tax and Super Australia's tax counsel John Jeffreys said legal expenses were not generally tax deductible in unfair dismissal cases because the person was no longer earning income and therefore the costs were treated as being of a capital nature. “However, there are situations in which legal expenses can be tax deductible,” Mr Jeffreys said. “If you get an amount that’s in compensation for lost wages then that itself is income and therefore it makes the expenses tax deductible.” Folau is suing for $5 million in lost salary in addition to the loss of commercial opportunities such as future contracts and sponsorship deals, as well as the cost of missing out on the Rugby World Cup and the chance to become the greatest Wallaby try-scorer. Mr Jeffreys said in such cases compensation would usually be awarded in a lump sum and the tax office would then treat the cost of his legal action as a capital expense, which would not be tax-deductible. But if he was claiming that he had been wronged in the termination of his employment, any compensation he received would not be subject to capital gains tax." Link |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Aussie on Jun 26th, 2019 at 9:28pm
I have not digested all of that Raven. But it did occur to me that this ACL fund goes outside a 'charitable' purpose and there may be some illegality. But, I am no expert on that.
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Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by cods on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:01pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 8:21pm:
its the same old me...you happen to agree with me which tells me you for once are reading my posts as I write them and not what you think I am writing.... ;) ;)... aussie says i write crap.... and gordy says he doesnt understand when I tell him i believe in a stronger power "who or what" I dont really know.. but I call him God.... I asked gordy what an atheist does when he is in need of help from a divine place...dont tell me you have never had your back up against the wall with your heart in your mouth gordy ? I have never met an atheist your the first.. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Secret Wars on Jun 27th, 2019 at 11:08am
Israel on his home page stated some not so controversial aspects of his religion, well not controversial if you accept that they are well established tenets of his religion and he can point to scripture with impunity to justify himself.
People forget it was not only gays that were included but the gays are organised to take offence and from the left he never had a chance. Being tinted carried some privilege points but unfortunately he also has the whiff of bogan, and more unforgivably a rich bogan, worse yet, rich from rugby, and to condemn completely he is a proudly Christian. A perfect storm for the left. I notice some of the forum luvvies are now holding sacrosanct contract law, these geniuses of course would not be so dogmatic if they could actually muster a thoughtful position instead of a partisan one, especially those union hacks. Sally McManus stated a more considered opinion, as does Justice Kirby though I disagree with his personally integrity of breaking laws whilst tasked with enforcing them. Laws can obviously be tested and should be tested. Me I would like to this tested, there has to be some restraint on how much an employer can control an employees personal life and social accounts, I am not suprised forum bedwetters for the unions oppose this in view of Israel’s lack of privilege points. If it is hateful speech that can be tested as well and it’s relationship to religion, is behead all those that insult the prophet allowed a religious exemption. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27th, 2019 at 11:59am |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 27th, 2019 at 11:59am
The Govt. has a choice -
either ban religion or allow people to quote from religious text. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:02pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 11:59am:
What the hell are you on about? The government isn't stopping anyone from quoting religious text, Bobby. In fact, nobody is stopping people from quoting religious text. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:21pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:02pm:
Yet you can lose your job for quoting the Bible. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:22pm cods wrote on Jun 26th, 2019 at 11:01pm:
When my back is against the wall I look for a weapon not a god Spot |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:26pm |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:31pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:21pm:
Who lost their job for quoting the Bible, and what role did the government play in the sacking? |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by Bobby. on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:33pm greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:31pm:
His name is Israel Folau. |
Title: Re: Go Fund me ~ Folau Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:37pm Bobby. wrote on Jun 27th, 2019 at 12:33pm:
1. He didn't lose his job for quoting the Bible. 2. The government played no role in his sacking. 3. He wasn't stopped from quoting religious text. |
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