Link.

Okay.....but why does this mean petrol prices go up?  Are they the only two tankers in the Universe?  What has happened to the oil in them?  They seem to be still floating?  What?

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:26pm:

Link. Okay.....but why does this mean petrol prices go up?  Are they the only two tankers in the Universe?  What has happened to the oil in them?  They seem to be still floating?  What?

All the other fuel tankers are to frightened to sail through, supply and demand.

They build the tankers a lot better these days, they are all sectioned off so they can be blown in half, still float and not
and not loose to much oil. The torpedo was a warning shot, like one over the bow.

we are all dependent on OIL....someone said the price will double....maybe we will buy all those electric cars after all.

You would think that with all this talk and reality of electric cars and green energy the oil moguls would try and keep petrol prices as low as possible, saying to the world fossil fuels are cheap as chips.

But nup there in on it too, that is the golden goose on wall street where nations pay for the free air above their country.

As for those cowboys they need another OK Corral (ala Thatcher and Falkland islands) to try and save Fanta pants, but Russia and Iran are allies so it might not be a cake walk after all, maybe WW3.

Who knows maybe Fanta pants unzipped himself in front of Sarah Sanders.

It's time Australia had its own oil and gas industry.

Plus, people get spooked. They might try to increase stockpiles in case this escalates.

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:26pm:

Link. Okay.....but why does this mean petrol prices go up?  Are they the only two tankers in the Universe?  What has happened to the oil in them?  They seem to be still floating?  What?

One has been rescued ... the other that was on fire & loaded was adrift.

One was loaded the other not.

Stupid idiots that targeted them should realise that if that tanker explodes & sends it's cargo into the sea ... their coastlines & fisheries will be stuffed .... as well as other countries.

Trouble is those responsible don't has the nous for constructive thought processes regarding action & responsibility & consequence.

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:37am:

Plus, people get spooked. They might try to increase stockpiles in case this escalates.

Australia's stockpile is very, very low at the moment.

Much less than the required 90 days.

Johnnie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 6:26pm: Link. Okay.....but why does this mean petrol prices go up?  Are they the only two tankers in the Universe?  What has happened to the oil in them?  They seem to be still floating?  What? All the other fuel tankers are to frightened to sail through, supply and demand. They build the tankers a lot better these days, they are all sectioned off so they can be blown in half, still float and not and not loose to much oil. The torpedo was a warning shot, like one over the bow.

I hate that excuse .... it's used to justify profiteering at someone elses expense or misery.

Ajax wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:35am:

You would think that with all this talk and reality of electric cars and green energy the oil moguls would try and keep petrol prices as low as possible, saying to the world fossil fuels are cheap as chips. But nup there in on it too, that is the golden goose on wall street where nations pay for the free air above their country. As for those cowboys they need another OK Corral (ala Thatcher and Falkland islands) to try and save Fanta pants, but Russia and Iran are allies so it might not be a cake walk after all, maybe WW3. Who knows maybe Fanta pants unzipped himself in front of Sarah Sanders. It's time Australia had its own oil and gas industry.

when you think where most of the OIL is situated and how  those main countries live....and its all they have....to export......imagine the crisis ahead for those countries.....not in our lifetime maybe.. but it is there

then ask yourselves what the hell are they doing NOW to make their countries sustainable in the future?...seems to me  exporting tall building wont replace oil...

you never know ajax   maybe the West can see whats ahead for oil reliant countries.....

and are just marking time.

Not 100% convinced about Iran being the culprit.... too convenient for my liking.... and definitely not when based on those kinds of extrapolations on the data available... stay within the Stargate, people.... talk of proxies can be very misleading without any evidence....

Ladies, Gentlemen - my intention is to bring the tankers home... what are your intentions?

cods wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:45am:

when you think where most of the OIL is situated and how  those main countries live....and its all they have....to export......imagine the crisis ahead for those countries.....not in our lifetime maybe.. but it is there then ask yourselves what the hell are they doing NOW to make their countries sustainable in the future?...seems to me  exporting tall building wont replace oil... you never know ajax   maybe the West can see whats ahead for oil reliant countries..... and are just marking time.

The globalists the oligarchy the 1% they are the ones that run most of the oil in the middle east except for Iran of course.

That and the fact that they haven't been able to place one of their central banks in Iran is why they always have their cross hairs pointed at them.

Terrorism is a way to control all people even innocent ones, as for terrorists they have always been on their pay role.

The oligarchy make plans for themselves for the next 50 to 100 years.

cods wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:35am: You would think that with all this talk and reality of electric cars and green energy the oil moguls would try and keep petrol prices as low as possible, saying to the world fossil fuels are cheap as chips. But nup there in on it too, that is the golden goose on wall street where nations pay for the free air above their country. As for those cowboys they need another OK Corral (ala Thatcher and Falkland islands) to try and save Fanta pants, but Russia and Iran are allies so it might not be a cake walk after all, maybe WW3. Who knows maybe Fanta pants unzipped himself in front of Sarah Sanders. It's time Australia had its own oil and gas industry. when you think where most of the OIL is situated and how  those main countries live....and its all they have....to export......imagine the crisis ahead for those countries.....not in our lifetime maybe.. but it is there then ask yourselves what the hell are they doing NOW to make their countries sustainable in the future?...seems to me  exporting tall building wont replace oil... you never know ajax   maybe the West can see whats ahead for oil reliant countries..... and are just marking time.

The massive social and economic divides remain in the oil-rich nations... as a footnote, the Sultan of Brunei, formerly considered somewhat 'moderate' and Western etc, has decreed that women 'guilty' of adultery will be publicly stoned.

Interestinger and interestinger.....

Gnads wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:42am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 6:44pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 6:26pm: Link. Okay.....but why does this mean petrol prices go up?  Are they the only two tankers in the Universe?  What has happened to the oil in them?  They seem to be still floating?  What? All the other fuel tankers are to frightened to sail through, supply and demand. They build the tankers a lot better these days, they are all sectioned off so they can be blown in half, still float and not and not loose to much oil. The torpedo was a warning shot, like one over the bow. I hate that excuse .... it's used to justify profiteering at someone elses expense or misery.

No it isn't. It needs no excuse at all. It is a good thing. It delivers goods to those who value them most. It means if not enough is being produced, there is an immediate incentive to increase production, without the need to invoke the wheels of bureaucracy.

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:26pm:

Link. Okay.....but why does this mean petrol prices go up?  Are they the only two tankers in the Universe?  What has happened to the oil in them?  They seem to be still floating?  What?

Can't help but ask why somebody of your age would ask the above questions.........

Doesn't it occur to you (Mr Ex Lawyer?) that if this is Iran's doing (which it most likely is), the chance of an all out war with the US occurs exponentially thus causing the price of oil to skyrocket.........and the 'whereabouts' of two or three tanker loads of crude oil is really not the point, what will happen to the billion and billions of barrels of crude oil if there is a war....... ::)

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:41am:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:37am: Plus, people get spooked. They might try to increase stockpiles in case this escalates. Australia's stockpile is very, very low at the moment. Much less than the required 90 days.

Hmm - we might have to attack Pearl Harbour and hope to remove the entire Pacific Fleet from the chessboard at one stroke..... ummm ... might not work, though...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:59am:

Not 100% convinced about Iran being the culprit.... too convenient for my liking.... and definitely not when based on those kinds of extrapolations on the data available... stay within the Stargate, people.... talk of proxies can be very misleading without any evidence.... Ladies, Gentlemen - my intention is to bring the tankers home... what are your intentions?

I say lets kick all these f@rkers out exxon mobil BP etc etc.

Our government takes over expands and secures energy for Australia and the Australian people.

Australian Petroleum (AP) sounds good to me.

Has Alex Jones declared the attack at "false flag" yet?

Ajax wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:59am: Not 100% convinced about Iran being the culprit.... too convenient for my liking.... and definitely not when based on those kinds of extrapolations on the data available... stay within the Stargate, people.... talk of proxies can be very misleading without any evidence.... Ladies, Gentlemen - my intention is to bring the tankers home... what are your intentions? I say lets kick all these f@rkers out exxon mobil BP etc etc. Our government takes over expands and secures energy for Australia and the Australian people. Australian Petroleum (AP) sounds good to me.

We had our own petroleum and gas industries - our politicians sold them off into slavery into the global market for thirty pieces of silverside to feed the nation with..... they're that good!

If you were growing corn, would you willingly sell it to Regional Investment and Production of Foreign Facilities (RIPOFF) for $0.01 an ear and then buy it back to eat at $1.80?  That's the kind of 'business sense' I'm talking about.... like Freediver buying a $10,000 boat and equipment to catch a fish, selling it for a dollar, and then buying back fish cakes for lunch at $1 each .....

Ajax wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:00am:

cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:45am: when you think where most of the OIL is situated and how  those main countries live....and its all they have....to export......imagine the crisis ahead for those countries.....not in our lifetime maybe.. but it is there then ask yourselves what the hell are they doing NOW to make their countries sustainable in the future?...seems to me  exporting tall building wont replace oil... you never know ajax   maybe the West can see whats ahead for oil reliant countries..... and are just marking time. The globalists the oligarchy the 1% they are the ones that run most of the oil in the middle east except for Iran of course. That and the fact that they haven't been able to place one of their central banks in Iran is why they always have their cross hairs pointed at them. Terrorism is a way to control all people even innocent ones, as for terrorists they have always been on their pay role. The oligarchy make plans for themselves for the next 50 to 100 years.

but they have masses of people who will not have been protected    WHAT THEN?...

look at Hong Kong right now....happy to become part of Chine.. well they are Chinese to start with.... ::).. and for some unknown reason they thought they would still be in control...

not so says China...

now they see the dawning of reality....BUT is the Hong kong govt listening to the masses???

didnt look like it to me...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:05am: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:59am: Not 100% convinced about Iran being the culprit.... too convenient for my liking.... and definitely not when based on those kinds of extrapolations on the data available... stay within the Stargate, people.... talk of proxies can be very misleading without any evidence.... Ladies, Gentlemen - my intention is to bring the tankers home... what are your intentions? I say lets kick all these f@rkers out exxon mobil BP etc etc. Our government takes over expands and secures energy for Australia and the Australian people. Australian Petroleum (AP) sounds good to me. We had our own petroleum and gas industries - our politicians sold them off into slavery into the global market for thirty pieces of silverside to feed the nation with..... they're that good! If you were growing corn, would you willingly sell it to Regional Investment and Production of Foreign Facilities (RIPOFF) for $0.01 an ear and then buy it back to eat at $1.80?  That's the kind of 'business sense' I'm talking about.... like Freediver buying a $10,000 boat and equipment to catch a fish, selling it for a dollar, and then buying back fish cakes for lunch at $1 each .....

LOL.............x2............ 8-)

cods wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:12am:

Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:00am: cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:45am: when you think where most of the OIL is situated and how  those main countries live....and its all they have....to export......imagine the crisis ahead for those countries.....not in our lifetime maybe.. but it is there then ask yourselves what the hell are they doing NOW to make their countries sustainable in the future?...seems to me  exporting tall building wont replace oil... you never know ajax   maybe the West can see whats ahead for oil reliant countries..... and are just marking time. The globalists the oligarchy the 1% they are the ones that run most of the oil in the middle east except for Iran of course. That and the fact that they haven't been able to place one of their central banks in Iran is why they always have their cross hairs pointed at them. Terrorism is a way to control all people even innocent ones, as for terrorists they have always been on their pay role. The oligarchy make plans for themselves for the next 50 to 100 years. but they have masses of people who will not have been protected    WHAT THEN?... look at Hong Kong right now....happy to become part of Chine.. well they are Chinese to start with.... ::).. and for some unknown reason they thought they would still be in control... not so says China... now they see the dawning of reality....BUT is the Hong kong govt listening to the masses??? didnt look like it to me...

Its happening now cods all over the world.

Look at Nigeria 8th biggest exporter of oil.

They have installed a dictator who lives like a king and the people live in poverty and squalor.

As for communism most of the these globalist want a communist state for the plebs a one world government must be easier to control the masses with this system but of course it wont apply to them.

Global warming is the start of a one world government.

Hong Kong if the Chinese government throws enough money at the Hong Kong authorities anything is possible as for the people and their demands do they really care....?

It's a worry:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/us-drone-tracked-iranian-boats/index.html


Trump says Iran 'did do it'

The United Kingdom released a statement Friday saying it is "almost certain" that a branch of the Iranian military -- the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) -- attacked two tankers.
The IRGC is an elite wing of the Iranian military that was established in the aftermath of the country's revolution in 1979. In April 2019, the US officially designated it as a foreign terrorist organization, a move which was rejected by authorities in Tehran.
No other state or non-state actor "could plausibly have been responsible," the statement added.
But Iran does not appear to be backing off and continues to engage in provocative behavior, according to a US official who told CNN on Friday that Iranian small boats are preventing tug boats from towing away one of the damaged tankers.

President Donald Trump seems convinced that Tehran was responsible.
With Iran, sometimes the logical explanation is the correct one

"Iran did do it and you know they did it because you saw the boat," he said,
appearing to refer to the images and video released by the Pentagon late Thursday.


In the video, a smaller boat is shown coming up to the side of the Japanese-owned tanker. An individual stands up on the bow of the boat and can be seen removing an object from the tanker's hull. The US says that object is likely an unexploded mine.
A senior diplomatic source of a US ally told CNN Friday, "It is a virtual certainty Iran was behind this latest attack. The video now nails it."
The source added that the goal of the response from the US government thus far is all about publicly exposing Iranian actions and intensifying maximum pressure.

Ajax wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:23am:

cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:12am: Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:00am: cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:45am: when you think where most of the OIL is situated and how  those main countries live....and its all they have....to export......imagine the crisis ahead for those countries.....not in our lifetime maybe.. but it is there then ask yourselves what the hell are they doing NOW to make their countries sustainable in the future?...seems to me  exporting tall building wont replace oil... you never know ajax   maybe the West can see whats ahead for oil reliant countries..... and are just marking time. The globalists the oligarchy the 1% they are the ones that run most of the oil in the middle east except for Iran of course. That and the fact that they haven't been able to place one of their central banks in Iran is why they always have their cross hairs pointed at them. Terrorism is a way to control all people even innocent ones, as for terrorists they have always been on their pay role. The oligarchy make plans for themselves for the next 50 to 100 years. but they have masses of people who will not have been protected    WHAT THEN?... look at Hong Kong right now....happy to become part of Chine.. well they are Chinese to start with.... ::).. and for some unknown reason they thought they would still be in control... not so says China... now they see the dawning of reality....BUT is the Hong kong govt listening to the masses??? didnt look like it to me... Its happening now cods all over the world. Look at Nigeria 8th biggest exporter of oil. They have installed a dictator who lives like a king and the people live in poverty and squalor. As for communism most of the these globalist want a communist state for the plebs a one world government must be easier to control the masses with this system but of course it wont apply to them. Global warming is the start of a one world government. Hong Kong if the Chinese government throws enough money at the Hong Kong authorities anything is possible as for the people and their demands do they really care....?

The Mini Ice Age is the second step to explain away why the world hasn't warmed up..... ;)

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 11:14am:

It's a worry: https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/us-drone-tracked-iranian-boats/index.html Trump says Iran 'did do it' The United Kingdom released a statement Friday saying it is "almost certain" that a branch of the Iranian military -- the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) -- attacked two tankers. The IRGC is an elite wing of the Iranian military that was established in the aftermath of the country's revolution in 1979. In April 2019, the US officially designated it as a foreign terrorist organization, a move which was rejected by authorities in Tehran. No other state or non-state actor "could plausibly have been responsible," the statement added. But Iran does not appear to be backing off and continues to engage in provocative behavior, according to a US official who told CNN on Friday that Iranian small boats are preventing tug boats from towing away one of the damaged tankers. President Donald Trump seems convinced that Tehran was responsible. With Iran, sometimes the logical explanation is the correct one "Iran did do it and you know they did it because you saw the boat," he said, appearing to refer to the images and video released by the Pentagon late Thursday. In the video, a smaller boat is shown coming up to the side of the Japanese-owned tanker. An individual stands up on the bow of the boat and can be seen removing an object from the tanker's hull. The US says that object is likely an unexploded mine. A senior diplomatic source of a US ally told CNN Friday, "It is a virtual certainty Iran was behind this latest attack. The video now nails it." The source added that the goal of the response from the US government thus far is all about publicly exposing Iranian actions and intensifying maximum pressure.

Last time I looked a ship mine was as big as a car and floated just under the surface of the water.

How did this mine that can be removed by one man become attached to the hull of the tanker.

Can something that fits in mans hand really put a hole in the tankers hull.....???

The American government and all those agencies it has commissioned are the real cancer on this Earth, if we have WW3 they are the f@rkers that will be responsible.

And in a way we're all guilty, why don't people stand up and say PROVE IT MOTHERF@RKER....???

Then and only then can any action be taken.

Funny the Iranians rescued the crew who went over board.

Yes Ajax,
And how do we know that the little boat
was Iranian?
Why wasn't it intercepted and the
people on board captured?

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:01am:

Gnads wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:42am: Johnnie wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 6:44pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 6:26pm: Link. Okay.....but why does this mean petrol prices go up?  Are they the only two tankers in the Universe?  What has happened to the oil in them?  They seem to be still floating?  What? All the other fuel tankers are to frightened to sail through, supply and demand. They build the tankers a lot better these days, they are all sectioned off so they can be blown in half, still float and not and not loose to much oil. The torpedo was a warning shot, like one over the bow. I hate that excuse .... it's used to justify profiteering at someone elses expense or misery. No it isn't. It needs no excuse at all. It is a good thing. It delivers goods to those who value them most. It means if not enough is being produced, there is an immediate incentive to increase production, without the need to invoke the wheels of bureaucracy.

I knew you'd claim it's not profiteering ... but it is ... and it only takes the slightest excuse.

2 tankers are fargall .... slack can easily be taken up.

It's like the way the price of fuel at the bowser changes hourly ... when some arab farts on an oil rig in Saudi Arabia a barrel of oil goes up a dollar and the price of fuel rises straight away ..... when the price of a barrel drops ... it takes days to be reflected at the bowser if at all.

Gnads wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 11:47am:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:01am: Gnads wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:42am: Johnnie wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 6:44pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 14th, 2019 at 6:26pm: Link. Okay.....but why does this mean petrol prices go up?  Are they the only two tankers in the Universe?  What has happened to the oil in them?  They seem to be still floating?  What? All the other fuel tankers are to frightened to sail through, supply and demand. They build the tankers a lot better these days, they are all sectioned off so they can be blown in half, still float and not and not loose to much oil. The torpedo was a warning shot, like one over the bow. I hate that excuse .... it's used to justify profiteering at someone elses expense or misery. No it isn't. It needs no excuse at all. It is a good thing. It delivers goods to those who value them most. It means if not enough is being produced, there is an immediate incentive to increase production, without the need to invoke the wheels of bureaucracy. I knew you'd claim it's not profiteering ... but it is ... and it only takes the slightest excuse. 2 tankers are fargall .... slack can easily be taken up. It's like the way the price of fuel at the bowser changes hourly ... when some arab farts on an oil rig in Saudi Arabia a barrel of oil goes up a dollar and the price of fuel rises straight away ..... when the price of a barrel drops ... it takes days to be reflected at the bowser if at all.

The increase in price is the mechanism by which the slack is taken up.

Ajax wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:23am:

cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:12am: Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:00am: cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:45am: when you think where most of the OIL is situated and how  those main countries live....and its all they have....to export......imagine the crisis ahead for those countries.....not in our lifetime maybe.. but it is there then ask yourselves what the hell are they doing NOW to make their countries sustainable in the future?...seems to me  exporting tall building wont replace oil... you never know ajax   maybe the West can see whats ahead for oil reliant countries..... and are just marking time. The globalists the oligarchy the 1% they are the ones that run most of the oil in the middle east except for Iran of course. That and the fact that they haven't been able to place one of their central banks in Iran is why they always have their cross hairs pointed at them. Terrorism is a way to control all people even innocent ones, as for terrorists they have always been on their pay role. The oligarchy make plans for themselves for the next 50 to 100 years. but they have masses of people who will not have been protected    WHAT THEN?... look at Hong Kong right now....happy to become part of Chine.. well they are Chinese to start with.... ::).. and for some unknown reason they thought they would still be in control... not so says China... now they see the dawning of reality....BUT is the Hong kong govt listening to the masses??? didnt look like it to me... Its happening now cods all over the world. Look at Nigeria 8th biggest exporter of oil. They have installed a dictator who lives like a king and the people live in poverty and squalor. As for communism most of the these globalist want a communist state for the plebs a one world government must be easier to control the masses with this system but of course it wont apply to them. Global warming is the start of a one world government. Hong Kong if the Chinese government throws enough money at the Hong Kong authorities anything is possible as for the people and their demands do they really care....?

ajax since the beginning of time its never been any different..


but dont you see how this AGGRESSION  is getting bigger and worse.......are the French still burning down their city???

its like a pending eruption it just bubbles away for many many years   until the smallest trigger sets it off and there is no stopping it..like an avalanche

if there was a way we would have found it by now...

even if they manage to stop the discontent...its only a temporary  bandaid at best....

if you have ever felt resentment....you will know it never really goes away completely..

cods wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 12:02pm:

Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:23am: cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:12am: Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 10:00am: cods wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:45am: when you think where most of the OIL is situated and how  those main countries live....and its all they have....to export......imagine the crisis ahead for those countries.....not in our lifetime maybe.. but it is there then ask yourselves what the hell are they doing NOW to make their countries sustainable in the future?...seems to me  exporting tall building wont replace oil... you never know ajax   maybe the West can see whats ahead for oil reliant countries..... and are just marking time. The globalists the oligarchy the 1% they are the ones that run most of the oil in the middle east except for Iran of course. That and the fact that they haven't been able to place one of their central banks in Iran is why they always have their cross hairs pointed at them. Terrorism is a way to control all people even innocent ones, as for terrorists they have always been on their pay role. The oligarchy make plans for themselves for the next 50 to 100 years. but they have masses of people who will not have been protected    WHAT THEN?... look at Hong Kong right now....happy to become part of Chine.. well they are Chinese to start with.... ::).. and for some unknown reason they thought they would still be in control... not so says China... now they see the dawning of reality....BUT is the Hong kong govt listening to the masses??? didnt look like it to me... Its happening now cods all over the world. Look at Nigeria 8th biggest exporter of oil. They have installed a dictator who lives like a king and the people live in poverty and squalor. As for communism most of the these globalist want a communist state for the plebs a one world government must be easier to control the masses with this system but of course it wont apply to them. Global warming is the start of a one world government. Hong Kong if the Chinese government throws enough money at the Hong Kong authorities anything is possible as for the people and their demands do they really care....? ajax since the beginning of time its never been any different.. but dont you see how this AGGRESSION  is getting bigger and worse.......are the French still burning down their city??? its like a pending eruption it just bubbles away for many many years   until the smallest trigger sets it off and there is no stopping it..like an avalanche if there was a way we would have found it by now... even if they manage to stop the discontent...its only a temporary  bandaid at best.... if you have ever felt resentment....you will know it never really goes away completely..

Yes I agree with you cods, man is his own worst enemy, never trusting each other wanting to dominate each other wanting to screw each other over.

As long as we live in a society where money is the master rather than a servant this will always be the case and this has always been the case through the ages, wealth, accumulation, hoarding etc.

Maybe it’s our destiny to wipe humanity from the face of this Earth, one thing for sure the Earth and all its creatures would be better off imo.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 11:46am:

Yes Ajax, And how do we know that the little boat was Iranian? Why wasn't it intercepted and the people on board captured?

They (someone within the USA government or agenices) had to knock down the twin towers to get into Afghanistan and Iraq.

Cant just march your army into another country.

Hitler was a good lecturer / blue print.

Showcase a false flag operation and march right on in.

Ajax wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 12:26pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:46am: Yes Ajax, And how do we know that the little boat was Iranian? Why wasn't it intercepted and the people on board captured? They (someone within the USA government or agenices) had to knock down the twin towers to get into Afghanistan and Iraq. Cant just march your army into another country. Hitler was a good lecturer / blue print. Showcase a false flag operation and march right on in.

So Trump is telling us that the little boat removing a mine was Iranian -
but at the same time the most powerful navy in the world
in the area with a whole aircraft carrier fleet -
was unable to intercept that little boat
& do anything about it -

all they could do was provide some grainy pictures
that are not evidence of anything?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 12:26pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:46am: Yes Ajax, And how do we know that the little boat was Iranian? Why wasn't it intercepted and the people on board captured? They (someone within the USA government or agenices) had to knock down the twin towers to get into Afghanistan and Iraq. Cant just march your army into another country. Hitler was a good lecturer / blue print. Showcase a false flag operation and march right on in. So Trump is telling us that the little boat removing a mine was Iranian - but at the same time the most powerful navy in the world in the area with a whole aircraft carrier fleet - was unable to intercept that little boat & do anything about it - all they could do was provide some grainy pictures that are not evidence of anything?

That's what I'm talking about.............. 8-)

The 5th fleet is in that area, were they all asleep at the wheel...?!?!?

Ajax wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 12:43pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 12:35pm: Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 12:26pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:46am: Yes Ajax, And how do we know that the little boat was Iranian? Why wasn't it intercepted and the people on board captured? They (someone within the USA government or agenices) had to knock down the twin towers to get into Afghanistan and Iraq. Cant just march your army into another country. Hitler was a good lecturer / blue print. Showcase a false flag operation and march right on in. So Trump is telling us that the little boat removing a mine was Iranian - but at the same time the most powerful navy in the world in the area with a whole aircraft carrier fleet - was unable to intercept that little boat & do anything about it - all they could do was provide some grainy pictures that are not evidence of anything? That's what I'm talking about.............. 8-) The 5th fleet is in that area, were they all asleep at the wheel...?!?!?

The captain of the Abraham Lincoln should be court-martialed.

The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln

https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/T1rD0bJ01oKtkoeOV4j_YBwnhXw=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/JM3RF6F4SNCHXD35SKGDPGIWNU.jpg

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 12:49pm:

Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 12:43pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 12:35pm: Ajax wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 12:26pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:46am: Yes Ajax, And how do we know that the little boat was Iranian? Why wasn't it intercepted and the people on board captured? They (someone within the USA government or agenices) had to knock down the twin towers to get into Afghanistan and Iraq. Cant just march your army into another country. Hitler was a good lecturer / blue print. Showcase a false flag operation and march right on in. So Trump is telling us that the little boat removing a mine was Iranian - but at the same time the most powerful navy in the world in the area with a whole aircraft carrier fleet - was unable to intercept that little boat & do anything about it - all they could do was provide some grainy pictures that are not evidence of anything? That's what I'm talking about.............. 8-) The 5th fleet is in that area, were they all asleep at the wheel...?!?!? The captain of the Abraham Lincoln should be court-martialed. The Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln https://www.armytimes.com/resizer/T1rD0bJ01oKtkoeOV4j_YBwnhXw=/1200x0/filters:quality(100)/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-mco.s3.amazonaws.com/public/JM3RF6F4SNCHXD35SKGDPGIWNU.jpg

LOL....Bobby they probably deployed them......!?

Think about it, how long would it take that little tug boat to go from one tanker to another in the same vicinity.

And who the heck filmed that alleged Iranian tug boat taking the mines off....?

Ajax wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 12:53pm:

LOL....Bobby they probably deployed them......!? Think about it, how long would it take that little tug boat to go from one tanker to another in the same vicinity. And who the heck filmed that alleged Iranian tug boat taking the mines off....?

I believe the Yanks filmed that little boat with a drone aircraft.
proof:
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/us-drone-tracked-iranian-boats/index.html

So the Yanks knew what was going on & did nothing about it.
It's not adding up.
This needs to go to the United Nations for an emergency meeting.
The Captain of the Abraham Lincoln needs to explain it before the whole world.

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:26pm:

Link. Okay.....but why does this mean petrol prices go up?  Are they the only two tankers in the Universe?  What has happened to the oil in them?  They seem to be still floating?  What?

Any excuse for service stations to raise petrol prices 10c/L, they will take it. It takes forever for the price of petrol to fall to a reasonable level when the oil prices drop.

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

we are all dependent on OIL....someone said the price will double....maybe we will buy all those electric cars after all.

Iran and Saudi Arabia are very dependent on oil.... exports. Though both countries are diversifying their industries, a large shift away from countries buying their oil will hurt their economy. It would hurt countries like Australia, the USA, Russia, and Norway, too. But, atleast our economies are not strongly reliant on oil exports.

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 11:48am:

The increase in price is the mechanism by which the slack is taken up.

when was the last time you or anyone you know didn't fill up your tank because petrol went from $1.40 to $1.45?

I agree with Gnads on this, it's an excuse used to profiteer.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 3:23pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 11:48am: The increase in price is the mechanism by which the slack is taken up. when was the last time you or anyone you know didn't fill up your tank because petrol went from $1.40 to $1.45? I agree with Gnads on this, it's an excuse used to profiteer.

There is a global market for oil. My friends and I are hardly representative of it. But I would buy from the place charging $1.40 rather than the place charging $1.45.

Also, you are leaving out the entire supply side from your equation.

You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it.

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 4:25pm:

You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it.

no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer.

tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering.

its counteracted when the price drops....not often we know but it does go down...and their margin is less...

cods wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. its counteracted when the price drops....not often we know but it does go down...and their margin is less...

Nope...their margin stays the same because they bought it for less.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering.

I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40.

With the possibility of a huge Middle East war breaking out and
all you posters are worried about is a 5 cent increase in petrol.

If this goes bad we'll have petrol rationing & it will cost $5 a litre.

cods wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 5:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. its counteracted when the price drops....not often we know but it does go down...and their margin is less...

that's the excuse they give cods ... i just don't buy it. They're profiteering. I don't agree with gnads often but on this he is correct

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:00pm:

With the possibility of a huge Middle east war breaking out and all you posters are worried about is a 5 cent increase in petrol. If this goes bad we'll have petrol rationing & it will cost $5 a litre.

.05c is an example you idiot.

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40.

Okay....so what price will you guarantee they bought it for and explain why ought anyone take any notice of your guarantee?

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: With the possibility of a huge Middle east war breaking out and all you posters are worried about is a 5 cent increase in petrol. If this goes bad we'll have petrol rationing & it will cost $5 a litre. .05c is an example you idiot.

Stop calling me an idiot on every post - you troll.
You should be banned.

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40.

It was an example fd, not scripture.

Average margins on petrol these days is about .10c a litre.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:01pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: With the possibility of a huge Middle east war breaking out and all you posters are worried about is a 5 cent increase in petrol. If this goes bad we'll have petrol rationing & it will cost $5 a litre. .05c is an example you idiot. Stop calling me an idiot on every post - you troll. You should be banned.

only an idiot would claim the debate is 'about .5c a litre in petrol' ...

you know what they say goober, 'if the shoe fits......'  :D :D

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:03pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40. Okay....so what price will you guarantee they bought it for and explain why ought anyone take any notice of your guarantee?

not one of his brightest moments  ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40. It was an example fd, not scripture. Average margins on petrol these days is about .10c a litre.

Crap.

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:05pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40. It was an example fd, not scripture. Average margins on petrol these days is about .10c a litre. Crap.

you always accuse people of lying when you don't like the numbers FD?

:D :D

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-01/retailers-reaping-record-margins-at-the-fuel-pump/8862268

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freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:05pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40. It was an example fd, not scripture. Average margins on petrol these days is about .10c a litre. Crap.

So you claim.  Got anything to back that up?

double post

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:19pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:05pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40. It was an example fd, not scripture. Average margins on petrol these days is about .10c a litre. Crap. you always accuse people of lying when you don't like the numbers FD? :D :D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-01/retailers-reaping-record-margins-at-the-fuel-pump/8862268

That's 10c, not 0.1c

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:19pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:05pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40. It was an example fd, not scripture. Average margins on petrol these days is about .10c a litre. Crap. you always accuse people of lying when you don't like the numbers FD? :D :D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-01/retailers-reaping-record-margins-at-the-fuel-pump/8862268 That's 10c, not 0.1c

you've just put up the same number, you've just expressed it differently ;D ;D ;D

ten cents is .10c, one cent is .01c

you claim to have a uni degree right?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:43pm:

you've just put up the same number, you've just expressed it differently ;D ;D ;D ten cents is .10c, one cent is 0.01c you claim to have a uni degree right?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

0.10 cents is 1/10 of a cent.

John - you just called me an idiot when you're clearly an idiot.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:43pm: you've just put up the same number, you've just expressed it differently ;D ;D ;D ten cents is .10c, one cent is 0.01c you claim to have a uni degree right?  ;D ;D ;D ;D 0.10 cents is 1/10 of a cent. John - you just called me an idiot when you're clearly an idiot.

you sure about that goober? you idiot  ;D ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:43pm: you've just put up the same number, you've just expressed it differently ;D ;D ;D ten cents is .10c, one cent is 0.01c you claim to have a uni degree right?  ;D ;D ;D ;D 0.10 cents is 1/10 of a cent. John - you just called me an idiot when you're clearly an idiot. you sure about that goober? you idiot  ;D ;D ;D ;D

If you can't even do 8 year old level arithmetic then you're retarded.
You should be banned.

Ferfuxsake...he means....ten cents.  Give over with the smart arse crap, peasants.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:48pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:46pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:43pm: you've just put up the same number, you've just expressed it differently ;D ;D ;D ten cents is .10c, one cent is 0.01c you claim to have a uni degree right?  ;D ;D ;D ;D 0.10 cents is 1/10 of a cent. John - you just called me an idiot when you're clearly an idiot. you sure about that goober? you idiot  ;D ;D ;D ;D If you can't even do 8 year old level arithmetic then you're retarded. You should be banned.

Why? Because you're an idiot?

Tell me, are you sticking to this claim goober?


0.10 cents is 1/10 of a cent.


;D ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:43pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:35pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:19pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:05pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40. It was an example fd, not scripture. Average margins on petrol these days is about .10c a litre. Crap. you always accuse people of lying when you don't like the numbers FD? :D :D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-01/retailers-reaping-record-margins-at-the-fuel-pump/8862268 That's 10c, not 0.1c you've just put up the same number, you've just expressed it differently ;D ;D ;D ten cents is .10c, one cent is .01c you claim to have a uni degree right?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

So you think 10c = 0.1c?

0.1 dollars is 10 cents.

Am I in a forum full of retarded people?

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:43pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:35pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:19pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:05pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40. It was an example fd, not scripture. Average margins on petrol these days is about .10c a litre. Crap. you always accuse people of lying when you don't like the numbers FD? :D :D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-01/retailers-reaping-record-margins-at-the-fuel-pump/8862268 That's 10c, not 0.1c you've just put up the same number, you've just expressed it differently ;D ;D ;D ten cents is .10c, one cent is .01c you claim to have a uni degree right?  ;D ;D ;D ;D So you think 10c = 0.1c?

WTF does it matter.  Clearly...he is referring to ..... wait for it........ ten cents.

You know....I can buy my 30 cans of VB at the corner outlet at $66.00...or I can buy the same at Dan Murphy's for $52.00...a difference of $14.00.  Is that clear Effendi?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

0.1 dollars is 10 cents. Am I in a forum full of retarded people?

Yes....but not here.

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:00pm:

WTF does it matter.  Clearly...he is referring to ..... wait for it........ ten cents.

ten cents is .10c ... one cent is .01c

there was nothing wrong with what I wrote. 

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm: 0.1 dollars is 10 cents. Am I in a forum full of retarded people? Yes....but not here.

Smith is clearly retarded -
he's no smarter than an 8 year old.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:01pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm: 0.1 dollars is 10 cents. Am I in a forum full of retarded people? Yes....but not here. Smith is clearly retarded - he's no smarter than an 8 year old.

You'd maybe know, I guess.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

0.1 dollars is 10 cents. Am I in a forum full of retarded people?

only the ones in your room right now ..

how many places after the decimal is my 1 goober? how many places after the decimal point is yours?

:D :D :D :D

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm: 0.1 dollars is 10 cents. Am I in a forum full of retarded people? only the ones in your room right now .. how many places after the decimal is my 1 goober? how many places after the decimal point is yours? :D :D :D :D

Smith,

1/10th of a dollar is 0.1 dollars =  10 cents.

1/10 of a cent is 0.1 cents.

Now - admit that you're a retard & ban yourself.

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:43pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:35pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:19pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:05pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:00pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 5:09pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 4:25pm: You are basically arguing that it doesn't exist because you cannot see it. no, i am arguing that petrol stations use the excuse to profiteer. tell me, why does the local servo, who bought the petrol in their holding tanks last week at $1.40, suddenly put up the price on that petrol by .05 or .10c because the hong kong price went up today? Did they have to pay any extra for the petrol already in their tanks, the petrol they are selling you? NO ... they just put it up because they can ... it's pure profiteering. I guarantee you that your local servo did not buy the petrol for $1.40. It was an example fd, not scripture. Average margins on petrol these days is about .10c a litre. Crap. you always accuse people of lying when you don't like the numbers FD? :D :D https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-09-01/retailers-reaping-record-margins-at-the-fuel-pump/8862268 That's 10c, not 0.1c you've just put up the same number, you've just expressed it differently ;D ;D ;D ten cents is .10c, one cent is .01c you claim to have a uni degree right?  ;D ;D ;D ;D So you think 10c = 0.1c?

yes, i think .10c is the same as .1c fd. In both cases the ones are immediately after the decimal point. To be one cent it has to be two places after the decimal point ... or .01c

did you and bobby go to the same uni?

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:09pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm: 0.1 dollars is 10 cents. Am I in a forum full of retarded people? only the ones in your room right now .. how many places after the decimal is my 1 goober? how many places after the decimal point is yours? :D :D :D :D Smith, 1/10th of a dollar is 0.1 dollars =  10 cents. 1/10 of a cent is 0.1 cents. .. Now - admit that you're a retard & ban yourself.

see the graph below you idiot ... pay particular attention to the coloumn 'view as a decimal'

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John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:12pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:09pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm: 0.1 dollars is 10 cents. Am I in a forum full of retarded people? only the ones in your room right now .. how many places after the decimal is my 1 goober? how many places after the decimal point is yours? :D :D :D :D Smith, 1/10th of a dollar is 0.1 dollars =  10 cents. 1/10 of a cent is 0.1 cents. .. Now - admit that you're a retard & ban yourself. see the graph below you idiot ... pay particular attention to the coloumn 'view as a decimal'

Smith,
Notice the units on the right hand side are in dollars not cents?
You're so retarded.

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:18pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:12pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:09pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 6:57pm: 0.1 dollars is 10 cents. Am I in a forum full of retarded people? only the ones in your room right now .. how many places after the decimal is my 1 goober? how many places after the decimal point is yours? :D :D :D :D Smith, 1/10th of a dollar is 0.1 dollars =  10 cents. 1/10 of a cent is 0.1 cents. .. Now - admit that you're a retard & ban yourself. see the graph below you idiot ... pay particular attention to the coloumn 'view as a decimal' Smith, Notice the units on the right hand side are in dollars not cents? You're so retarded.

;D ;D ;D ;D

just admit you're an idiot goober. I even put up the evidence for you and still you're grasping

Who cares

My new car get 7.2 o 7.5 l/ 100 klm

My wife's ad car gets 5.1 to 5.5 l/100k

Much better than our old cars.

We estimated saving of around $600 to $1000 a year.

So a few cents here or there don't matter a frig.

Suffer peasants.

Ignoring John's bellyflop and his desperate efforts to dig his way out of that hole, this pretty much proves that it is not a case of profiteering. The markup is less than 10%. Typical retail markups start at 100%.

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:38pm:

Ignoring John's bellyflop and his desperate efforts to dig his way out of that hole, this pretty much proves that it is not a case of profiteering. The markup is less than 10%. Typical retail markups start at 100%.

So, you accept he is right that the markup per litre is ten cents?  Yes/no Effendi.

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:48pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:38pm: Ignoring John's bellyflop and his desperate efforts to dig his way out of that hole, this pretty much proves that it is not a case of profiteering. The markup is less than 10%. Typical retail markups start at 100%. So, you accept he is right that the markup per litre is ten cents?  Yes/no Effendi.

Over the last few pages you have gone to some lengths to defend the indefensible. Smith is wrong. If he had used .10$ instead of .10c or even how we actually write it 10c, he would be right, even his own pic torpedoed him yet you cling on to defend the dimwit. At the same time he has called anyone who disagreed with him an idiot or some other derogatory name. There are only two idiots here it seems, you and Smith. Peas in a pod or is it pea brains in a pod?

Why is it of any importance? If you can't do primary school math, if you get something so simple wrong, why should we take anything else you have to say seriously?

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:48pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:38pm: Ignoring John's bellyflop and his desperate efforts to dig his way out of that hole, this pretty much proves that it is not a case of profiteering. The markup is less than 10%. Typical retail markups start at 100%. So, you accept he is right that the markup per litre is ten cents?  Yes/no Effendi. Over the last few pages you have gone to some lengths to defend the indefensible. Smith is wrong. If he had used .10$ instead of .10c or even how we actually write it 10c, he would be right, even his own pic torpedoed him yet you cling on to defend the dimwit. At the same time he has called anyone who disagreed with him an idiot or some other derogatory name. There are only two idiots here it seems, you and Smith. Peas in a pod or is it pea brains in a pod? Why is it of any importance? If you can't do primary school math, if you get something so simple wrong, why should we take anything else you have to say seriously?

Woopdedoo.  Let's see when you do something similar and I'll toss that right back in your face.  You have some questions to answer in Relationships.

Did he not post 0.10c......????

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:48pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:38pm: Ignoring John's bellyflop and his desperate efforts to dig his way out of that hole, this pretty much proves that it is not a case of profiteering. The markup is less than 10%. Typical retail markups start at 100%. So, you accept he is right that the markup per litre is ten cents?  Yes/no Effendi. Over the last few pages you have gone to some lengths to defend the indefensible. Smith is wrong. If he had used .10$ instead of .10c or even how we actually write it 10c, he would be right, even his own pic torpedoed him yet you cling on to defend the dimwit. At the same time he has called anyone who disagreed with him an idiot or some other derogatory name. There are only two idiots here it seems, you and Smith. Peas in a pod or is it pea brains in a pod? Why is it of any importance? If you can't do primary school math, if you get something so simple wrong, why should we take anything else you have to say seriously?

so one cent is one decimal point right choo choo?  ;D ;D ;D

Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre?

freediver wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 7:38pm:

Ignoring John's bellyflop and his desperate efforts to dig his way out of that hole, this pretty much proves that it is not a case of profiteering. The markup is less than 10%. Typical retail markups start at 100%.

it proves no such thing.

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:02pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:48pm: freediver wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 7:38pm: Ignoring John's bellyflop and his desperate efforts to dig his way out of that hole, this pretty much proves that it is not a case of profiteering. The markup is less than 10%. Typical retail markups start at 100%. So, you accept he is right that the markup per litre is ten cents?  Yes/no Effendi. Over the last few pages you have gone to some lengths to defend the indefensible. Smith is wrong. If he had used .10$ instead of .10c or even how we actually write it 10c, he would be right, even his own pic torpedoed him yet you cling on to defend the dimwit. At the same time he has called anyone who disagreed with him an idiot or some other derogatory name. There are only two idiots here it seems, you and Smith. Peas in a pod or is it pea brains in a pod? Why is it of any importance? If you can't do primary school math, if you get something so simple wrong, why should we take anything else you have to say seriously? Woopdedoo.  Let's see when you do something similar and I'll toss that right back in your face.  You have some questions to answer in Relationships. Did he not post 0.10c......????

I have no probs with that.

Yes he did post 0.10c which is one tenth of a cent. Are you still clinging to it being 10c? As JS would say, idiot. You deserve each other.

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:18pm:

Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre?

He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that.

i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:28pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic

0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c.

Down your way tomorrow spying out the lay of the land for a February gathering of the ex's clan... up Bexhill way, though, and not coming into Lismore.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:32pm:

Down your way tomorrow spying out the lay of the land for a February gathering of the ex's clan... up Bexhill way, though, and not coming into Lismore.

Party at the open air cathedral?

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c.

no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c.

https://i.imgflip.com/33ixw9.jpg

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead

Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker.

an unemployed bum you can't afford it choo choo

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:38pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker. an unemployed bum you can't afford it choo choo

Not taking me up on the offer? Why not? If I have nothing to pay for it with you don't lose. ;)

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker. an unemployed bum you can't afford it choo choo Not taking me up on the offer? Why not? If I have nothing to pay for it with you don't lose. ;)

even if i was to concede your point (and I'm not) you still couldn't afford it choo choo.

Besides, you've proven just how corrupt and untrustworthy you are. I never make any deals with people I don't trust.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:43pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:41pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker. an unemployed bum you can't afford it choo choo Not taking me up on the offer? Why not? If I have nothing to pay for it with you don't lose. ;) even if i was to concede your point (and I'm not) you still couldn't afford it choo choo. Besides, you've proven just how corrupt and untrustworthy you are. I never make any deals with people I don't trust.

Easy to make claims Mimo, put your money where your mouth is. We could use Aussie as the broker. I'll buy everything you have for 1c in the dollar.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:46pm:

Easy to make claims Mimo

lucky for you ehh dopey.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:54pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: Easy to make claims Mimo lucky for you ehh dopey.

What was my claim? 0.1c != 10c? You were out by a factor of 100. Why am I lucky? It's general primary school math, nothing to do with luck, I just learned what was being taught, pity you didn't. Or were you just unlucky to miss school enough you didn't. I thought the decimal system was supposed to make it easy.

Far better to admit that you just made a mistake, but you can't do that, after all you've just called everyone that pointed out your error idiots. Hard to come back from that without loss of credibility and you don't have much of that.

I must admit watching you squirm is fun though. You and Aussie are like bloodworms in a bucket, just waiting for the hook to feed you to the fish.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:54pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: Easy to make claims Mimo lucky for you ehh dopey. What was my claim? 0.1c != 10c? You were out by a factor of 100. Why am I lucky? It's general primary school math, nothing to do with luck, I just learned what was being taught, pity you didn't. Or were you just unlucky to miss school enough you didn't. I thought the decimal system was supposed to make it easy. Far better to admit that you just made a mistake, but you can't do that, after all you've just called everyone that pointed out your error idiots. Hard to come back from that without loss of credibility and you don't have much of that. I must admit watching you squirm is fun though. You and Aussie are like bloodworms in a bucket, just waiting for the hook to feed you to the fish.

Hi Set,
Smith likes to argue with people like me who have been to university
& solved solved differential equations with Laplace transforms
amongst many other mathematical topics
over long years of hard study & exams.

The worst thing about ignorant people is that they
don't know how stupid they really are.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

What was my claim?

who the farq knows. You don't think I actually pay attention to anything you say, do you?  ;D ;D

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:09pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:54pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: Easy to make claims Mimo lucky for you ehh dopey. What was my claim? 0.1c != 10c? You were out by a factor of 100. Why am I lucky? It's general primary school math, nothing to do with luck, I just learned what was being taught, pity you didn't. Or were you just unlucky to miss school enough you didn't. I thought the decimal system was supposed to make it easy. Far better to admit that you just made a mistake, but you can't do that, after all you've just called everyone that pointed out your error idiots. Hard to come back from that without loss of credibility and you don't have much of that. I must admit watching you squirm is fun though. You and Aussie are like bloodworms in a bucket, just waiting for the hook to feed you to the fish. Hi Set, Smith likes to argue with people like me who have been to university & solved solved differential equations with Laplace transforms amongst many other mathematical topics over long years of hard study & exams. The worst thing about ignorant people is that they don't know how stupid they really are.

at least you've finally acknowledged your problem  ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:10pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:02pm: What was my claim? who the farq knows. You don't think I actually pay attention to anything you say, do you?  ;D ;D

You don't know but you claimed I made a claim, no hope for you window licker.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:43pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:41pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker. an unemployed bum you can't afford it choo choo Not taking me up on the offer? Why not? If I have nothing to pay for it with you don't lose. ;) even if i was to concede your point (and I'm not) you still couldn't afford it choo choo. Besides, you've proven just how corrupt and untrustworthy you are. I never make any deals with people I don't trust. Easy to make claims Mimo, put your money where your mouth is. We could use Aussie as the broker. I'll buy everything you have for 1c in the dollar.

Okay...if you are buying it would be my responsibility (as the broker) to ensure you have the cash...even at that rate.

Or...some sense will prevail, and you will get over this crap.  Fancy making an existence out of a decimal point etc. Just so desperate.

Mr Smith's grammar is on the piss weak side...so what?  Can you speak Italian?

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:09pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:54pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: Easy to make claims Mimo lucky for you ehh dopey. What was my claim? 0.1c != 10c? You were out by a factor of 100. Why am I lucky? It's general primary school math, nothing to do with luck, I just learned what was being taught, pity you didn't. Or were you just unlucky to miss school enough you didn't. I thought the decimal system was supposed to make it easy. Far better to admit that you just made a mistake, but you can't do that, after all you've just called everyone that pointed out your error idiots. Hard to come back from that without loss of credibility and you don't have much of that. I must admit watching you squirm is fun though. You and Aussie are like bloodworms in a bucket, just waiting for the hook to feed you to the fish. Hi Set, Smith likes to argue with people like me who have been to university & solved solved differential equations with Laplace transforms amongst many other mathematical topics over long years of hard study & exams. The worst thing about ignorant people is that they don't know how stupid they really are. at least you've finally acknowledged your problem  ;D ;D

Squirmy wormy.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:12pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:09pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:54pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: Easy to make claims Mimo lucky for you ehh dopey. What was my claim? 0.1c != 10c? You were out by a factor of 100. Why am I lucky? It's general primary school math, nothing to do with luck, I just learned what was being taught, pity you didn't. Or were you just unlucky to miss school enough you didn't. I thought the decimal system was supposed to make it easy. Far better to admit that you just made a mistake, but you can't do that, after all you've just called everyone that pointed out your error idiots. Hard to come back from that without loss of credibility and you don't have much of that. I must admit watching you squirm is fun though. You and Aussie are like bloodworms in a bucket, just waiting for the hook to feed you to the fish. Hi Set, Smith likes to argue with people like me who have been to university & solved solved differential equations with Laplace transforms amongst many other mathematical topics over long years of hard study & exams. The worst thing about ignorant people is that they don't know how stupid they really are. at least you've finally acknowledged your problem  ;D ;D Squirmy wormy.

not sure its appropriate for a mod to call goober a squirmy wormy ... but otherwise I agree, he is a bit of a worm, isn't he.

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:43pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:41pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker. an unemployed bum you can't afford it choo choo Not taking me up on the offer? Why not? If I have nothing to pay for it with you don't lose. ;) even if i was to concede your point (and I'm not) you still couldn't afford it choo choo. Besides, you've proven just how corrupt and untrustworthy you are. I never make any deals with people I don't trust. Easy to make claims Mimo, put your money where your mouth is. We could use Aussie as the broker. I'll buy everything you have for 1c in the dollar. Okay...if you are buying it would be my responsibility (as the broker) to ensure you have the cash...even at that rate. Or...some sense will prevail, and you will get over this crap.  Fancy making an existence out of a decimal point etc. Just so desperate. Mr Smith's grammar is on the piss weak side...so what?  Can you speak Italian?

You claimed he was right and defended him, you're no better, we better have an accountant in on it too. I have money but at the rate of 1c in the dollar I'd be a fool not to borrow. I could easily take 5 million worth of his property tomorrow, another 5 million in a week and another 5 million in a month.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:13pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:10pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:02pm: What was my claim? who the farq knows. You don't think I actually pay attention to anything you say, do you?  ;D ;D You don't know but you claimed I made a claim, no hope for you window licker.

that's because the claim I refer to was before I realised what a lying cheating turd you have become  ... only after incident did I relegate you to the trash bin. Any claims since then carry the word of a lying cheating turd, so not very attention worthy.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:12pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:09pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:54pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: Easy to make claims Mimo lucky for you ehh dopey. What was my claim? 0.1c != 10c? You were out by a factor of 100. Why am I lucky? It's general primary school math, nothing to do with luck, I just learned what was being taught, pity you didn't. Or were you just unlucky to miss school enough you didn't. I thought the decimal system was supposed to make it easy. Far better to admit that you just made a mistake, but you can't do that, after all you've just called everyone that pointed out your error idiots. Hard to come back from that without loss of credibility and you don't have much of that. I must admit watching you squirm is fun though. You and Aussie are like bloodworms in a bucket, just waiting for the hook to feed you to the fish. Hi Set, Smith likes to argue with people like me who have been to university & solved solved differential equations with Laplace transforms amongst many other mathematical topics over long years of hard study & exams. The worst thing about ignorant people is that they don't know how stupid they really are. at least you've finally acknowledged your problem  ;D ;D Squirmy wormy. not sure its appropriate for a mod to call goober a squirmy wormy ... but otherwise I agree, he is a bit of a worm, isn't he.

You also have problems with English and quoting. Not going well for you.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

I'd be a fool not to borrow

banks don't lend money to bums

https://i.imgflip.com/33ixw9.jpg

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:19pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:10pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:02pm: What was my claim? who the farq knows. You don't think I actually pay attention to anything you say, do you?  ;D ;D You don't know but you claimed I made a claim, no hope for you window licker. that's because the claim I refer to was before I realised what a lying cheating turd you have become  ... only after incident did I relegate you to the trash bin. Any claims since then carry the word of a lying cheating turd, so not very attention worthy.

Now you are claiming to know when you didn't before? Squirmy much?

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:16pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:12pm: Bobby. wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:09pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:02pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:54pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: Easy to make claims Mimo lucky for you ehh dopey. What was my claim? 0.1c != 10c? You were out by a factor of 100. Why am I lucky? It's general primary school math, nothing to do with luck, I just learned what was being taught, pity you didn't. Or were you just unlucky to miss school enough you didn't. I thought the decimal system was supposed to make it easy. Far better to admit that you just made a mistake, but you can't do that, after all you've just called everyone that pointed out your error idiots. Hard to come back from that without loss of credibility and you don't have much of that. I must admit watching you squirm is fun though. You and Aussie are like bloodworms in a bucket, just waiting for the hook to feed you to the fish. Hi Set, Smith likes to argue with people like me who have been to university & solved solved differential equations with Laplace transforms amongst many other mathematical topics over long years of hard study & exams. The worst thing about ignorant people is that they don't know how stupid they really are. at least you've finally acknowledged your problem  ;D ;D Squirmy wormy. not sure its appropriate for a mod to call goober a squirmy wormy ... but otherwise I agree, he is a bit of a worm, isn't he. You also have problems with English and quoting. Not going well for you.

and yet you were the one who left the statement open like that.  ;D ;D ;D

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:21pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:19pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:10pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:02pm: What was my claim? who the farq knows. You don't think I actually pay attention to anything you say, do you?  ;D ;D You don't know but you claimed I made a claim, no hope for you window licker. that's because the claim I refer to was before I realised what a lying cheating turd you have become  ... only after incident did I relegate you to the trash bin. Any claims since then carry the word of a lying cheating turd, so not very attention worthy. Now you are claiming to know when you didn't before? Squirmy much?

no, i am claiming that I used to pay attention to your claims, but since you've proven yourself a lying deceitful prick, I no longer do

You criticise my English but you seem incapable of struggling to understand the basics.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:18pm: I'd be a fool not to borrow banks don't lend money to bums

That would be my problem, not yours. Your's would be your assets gone for 1/100th their value. You up for it big mouth?

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:23pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:20pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:18pm: I'd be a fool not to borrow banks don't lend money to bums That would be my problem, not yours. Your's would be your assets gone for 1/100th their value. You up for it big mouth?

It's certainly not my problem. I told you ages ago, i don't make deals with people i can't trust.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:23pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:20pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:18pm: I'd be a fool not to borrow banks don't lend money to bums That would be my problem, not yours. Your's would be your assets gone for 1/100th their value. You up for it big mouth? It's certainly not my problem. I told you ages ago, i don't make deals with people i can't trust.

Just can't admit how wrong you were. No need to trust me, trust your math and the middle men.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:28pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:25pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:23pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:20pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:18pm: I'd be a fool not to borrow banks don't lend money to bums That would be my problem, not yours. Your's would be your assets gone for 1/100th their value. You up for it big mouth? It's certainly not my problem. I told you ages ago, i don't make deals with people i can't trust. Just can't admit how wrong you were. No need to trust me, trust your math and the middle men.

Not sure why someone who is such a master of the English language struggles with such a simple statement. I told you a dozen times, I don't do deals with people I can't trust.

Perhaps you need someone to translate that to idiot so you'll be better able to understand it?

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:43pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:41pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker. an unemployed bum you can't afford it choo choo Not taking me up on the offer? Why not? If I have nothing to pay for it with you don't lose. ;) even if i was to concede your point (and I'm not) you still couldn't afford it choo choo. Besides, you've proven just how corrupt and untrustworthy you are. I never make any deals with people I don't trust. Easy to make claims Mimo, put your money where your mouth is. We could use Aussie as the broker. I'll buy everything you have for 1c in the dollar. Okay...if you are buying it would be my responsibility (as the broker) to ensure you have the cash...even at that rate. Or...some sense will prevail, and you will get over this crap.  Fancy making an existence out of a decimal point etc. Just so desperate. Mr Smith's grammar is on the piss weak side...so what?  Can you speak Italian? You claimed he was right and defended him, you're no better, we better have an accountant in on it too. I have money but at the rate of 1c in the dollar I'd be a fool not to borrow. I could easily take 5 million worth of his property tomorrow, another 5 million in a week and another 5 million in a month.

Gee...great!  Your fortunes have ....... Oops hang on Aussie...that would be revealing stuff from somewhere.

See, we can both play that game Setanta.  It ain't hard.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:28pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:25pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:23pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:20pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:18pm: I'd be a fool not to borrow banks don't lend money to bums That would be my problem, not yours. Your's would be your assets gone for 1/100th their value. You up for it big mouth? It's certainly not my problem. I told you ages ago, i don't make deals with people i can't trust. Just can't admit how wrong you were. No need to trust me, trust your math and the middle men. Not sure why someone who is such a master of the English language struggles with such a simple statement. I told you a dozen times, I don't do deals with people I can't trust. Perhaps you need someone to translate that to idiot so you'll be better able to understand it?

I see you finally admit to yourself you made a bad call with your 0.1c crap, now apologise to the people you called idiots for calling you on it. I'm done with rubbing your nose in your shit. Bad worm.

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

I see you finally admit to yourself you made a bad call with your 0.1c crap, now apologise to the people you called idiots for calling you on it

really? you see that? can you highlight where you see such an admission? I suspect you're delusional but I'm willing to give you a chance


Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

I'm done with rubbing your nose in your poo. Bad worm.

is that what you were doing? ;D ;D ;D Word of advice, you need to up your game. That was pathetic, even by your standards.

Aussie wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:18pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:43pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:41pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker. an unemployed bum you can't afford it choo choo Not taking me up on the offer? Why not? If I have nothing to pay for it with you don't lose. ;) even if i was to concede your point (and I'm not) you still couldn't afford it choo choo. Besides, you've proven just how corrupt and untrustworthy you are. I never make any deals with people I don't trust. Easy to make claims Mimo, put your money where your mouth is. We could use Aussie as the broker. I'll buy everything you have for 1c in the dollar. Okay...if you are buying it would be my responsibility (as the broker) to ensure you have the cash...even at that rate. Or...some sense will prevail, and you will get over this crap.  Fancy making an existence out of a decimal point etc. Just so desperate. Mr Smith's grammar is on the piss weak side...so what?  Can you speak Italian? You claimed he was right and defended him, you're no better, we better have an accountant in on it too. I have money but at the rate of 1c in the dollar I'd be a fool not to borrow. I could easily take 5 million worth of his property tomorrow, another 5 million in a week and another 5 million in a month. Gee...great!  Your fortunes have ....... Oops hang on Aussie...that would be revealing stuff from somewhere. See, we can both play that game Setanta.  It ain't hard.

Not playing your game, you know having and accessing are different things. It's easy enough to prove otherwise of course, JS can take me up on my offer of 0.1c for every 10c.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:35pm: I see you finally admit to yourself you made a bad call with your 0.1c crap, now apologise to the people you called idiots for calling you on it really? you see that? can you highlight where you see such an admission? I suspect you're delusional but I'm willing to give you a chance Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:35pm: I'm done with rubbing your nose in your poo. Bad worm. is that what you were doing? ;D ;D ;D Word of advice, you need to up your game. That was pathetic, even by your standards.

There's no other way to see it Mimo. You are not defending it anymore, you are attacking me. Do you want to say right now you still think you were correct? No skin off my arse.

John Smith wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

really? you see that? can you highlight where you see such an admission? I suspect you're delusional but I'm willing to give you a chance

struggling to find it choo choo? ;D ;D

Setanta wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:32pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:18pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 9:13pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:46pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:43pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:41pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:38pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:37pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:33pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:29pm: John Smith wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:28pm: Setanta wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:25pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 15th, 2019 at 8:18pm: Effendi....do you agree that Mr Smith has established that the mark up is ten cents per litre? He claimed it was one tenth of a cent and hasn't backed off from that. i did not claim it was one tenth of a cent you lying turd. You did, i claimed it was ten cents. It's not my problem you're dyslexic 0.10c is one tenth of a cent you math illiterate arsewipe not 10c. no need to put your stupidity beyond a doubt choo choo, leave some people hoping you have a chance ... you dickhead Tell you what math wizard, I'll buy every thing you own with 0.10c per 10c value, you up for that? I'll have everything you own for 1/100th it's value window licker. an unemployed bum you can't afford it choo choo Not taking me up on the offer? Why not? If I have nothing to pay for it with you don't lose. ;) even if i was to concede your point (and I'm not) you still couldn't afford it choo choo. Besides, you've proven just how corrupt and untrustworthy you are. I never make any deals with people I don't trust. Easy to make claims Mimo, put your money where your mouth is. We could use Aussie as the broker. I'll buy everything you have for 1c in the dollar. Okay...if you are buying it would be my responsibility (as the broker) to ensure you have the cash...even at that rate. Or...some sense will prevail, and you will get over this crap.  Fancy making an existence out of a decimal point etc. Just so desperate. Mr Smith's grammar is on the piss weak side...so what?  Can you speak Italian? You claimed he was right and defended him, you're no better, we better have an accountant in on it too. I have money but at the rate of 1c in the dollar I'd be a fool not to borrow. I could easily take 5 million worth of his property tomorrow, another 5 million in a week and another 5 million in a month. Gee...great!  Your fortunes have ....... Oops hang on Aussie...that would be revealing stuff from somewhere. See, we can both play that game Setanta.  It ain't hard. Not playing your game, you know having and accessing are different things. It's easy enough to prove otherwise of course, JS can take me up on my offer of 0.1c for every 10c.

Good luck.