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Title: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Gordon on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 7:01pm

Wow!

A powerful union figure says Labor leader Anthony Albanese should consider resigning for accepting "false allegations" against controversial construction union leader John Setka.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-12/union-boss-says-labor-leader-anthony-albanese-should-resign/11203312

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Gordon on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 7:02pm

Will the union roll Albo before the next election.

What's Shorten up to these days?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 7:04pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 7:02pm:

Will the union roll Albo before the next election.

Unions, plural, yes: most certainly.

I said from the very start that the Unions wouldn't accept Albo.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 3:14pm

Out of touch past it Greggy trots out Labor slogans from 50 years ago.

Now there is a pitch battle between Union GOD Person Setka and that Commo Socialist Extremist Feminazi Sheila.

Will Albo be a battle casuality struck by a stray bullet ?

Is Shorty waiting in the wings in one of his scungy daggy crumpled blue soots that look like he sleeps in them ?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 5:30pm

wow the shortest leadership since.......................

well that went well didnt it???

will the UNIONS lose this round...

I cant see it myself.....

will albo have shortarse in his corner..

I cant see it myself..

he looks very lonely all by himself in front of the mike..... doesnt he have any supporters in the party?..

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 6:09pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 12^th, 2019 at 7:01pm:

Quote:

A powerful union figure says Labor leader Anthony Albanese should consider resigning for accepting "false allegations" against controversial construction union leader John Setka.

Mr Cain said: "Why didn't Mr Albanese pick the phone up and talk to John Setka direct"
Christy Cain, the national president of the Maritime Union, told the ABC suggestions Mr Setka had denigrated anti-domestic violence campaigner Rosie Batty at a meeting of CFMEU officials last Wednesday were false.

Mr Cain, who is also WA secretary of the CFMEU, was one of 40-plus union officials who attended the meeting in Melbourne.

He said Mr Setka had used the private meeting to open up about his own "private affairs" and the well-publicised breakdown last year of his marriage with lawyer Emma Walters, with whom Mr Setka has since reconciled.

Mr Albanese has recommended the ALP national executive expel Mr Setka from the party for "unacceptable" comments.

But Mr Cain said the Labor leader should instead consider his own position.

"It is just rubbish what is being said in the press. I think that Mr Albanese should take a good look at himself," Mr Cain said.

"Why didn't Mr Albanese pick the phone up and talk to John Setka direct about what happened? Why didn't he talk to me, who was about five feet from John Setka and who was in the room? Ask Mr Albanese that.

"No, Mr Albanese's run-off false allegations. He has misconstrued what has gone in that room and he should apologise.

"Maybe Mr Albanese should resign, I don't know. He should take a good look at himself.

"Maybe he should get all the facts. He's jumped the gun and as far as I'm concerned, he hasn't got all the facts rights, in this case — especially in this case."

labor trying early hari kari

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 6:22pm

What horrific punishment has Setka planned for Albo ?

Will Mr Bean appear to save the day ?

ScoMo will have to tell GOD to lay off a bit as all that is left of the once insignificant Labor Party is a few smoldering smelly fragments on the bottom of the Labor bird cage.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:15pm

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

I don't think they'll bring Shorten back.

Jason Clare and Brendan O'Connor are probably the Unions' first choice.

Albo won't last.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:16pm

Quote:

Albo won't last.

Just because he takes on a thug? A grub? An arsehole? Nah.

Albo is the Labor 'PM' who has to wear what these pricks get up to. Setka has to go. I would never want that prick anywhere in my 'world.' He can fuq off and not one thing will change...except there will be a new Secretary.

Frankly, I am tired of having to defend the close association between Unions and Labor while turds like Sekta have a say.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:21pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Quote:

Albo won't last.

Just because he takes on a thug? A grub? An arsehole? Nah.

Albo is the PM who has to wear what these pricks get up to. Setka has to go. I would never want that prick anywhere in my 'world.' He can fuq off and not one thing will change.

Setka's an arrogant arsehole, and Albo is a thoroughly decent & capable bloke.

However, the unions run the ALP.

Albo won't last.

I wouldn't be surprised to see O'Connor's name put forward in the not too distant future.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Quote:

Albo won't last.

If that is true...it is time they ran a Union and not a Government. Fuq them. I am over Unions going beyond doing their very best for their Members.....................LEGALLY.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:33pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Quote:

Albo won't last.

If that is true...it is time they ran a Union and not a Government. Fuq them. I am over Unions going beyond doing their very best for their Members.....................LEGALLY.

You're starting to sound like cods.

The ALP was created by the Unions, for the Unions.

Today, they still finance & control most of what goes on.

Without them, the ALP wouldn't exist.

Similarly, without big business and organised crime, the Liberal Party wouldn't exist.

It's just the way it is.

I think the Unions have too much control too, but it's never gonna change.

Albo has never been pro-Union, and the Unions have never been pro-Albo.

He was never gonna last as leader (I like him, though).

I'm not sure if the ALP has the balls to put O'Connor up, but I think they should.

If not him, then Jason Clare.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Aussie on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 9:07pm

I don't need a history lesson Mr Peccerry.

I also have had enough of CMFEU thugs. They can fuq off. They are dragging Labor down, and more power to Albo's elbow.

Come on....Setka or Labor politically? Setka is not bigger than the wider ALP which includes people like me....never been a Union Member ever.

He can't win this fight. How can he? Albo is the Head of the ALP. Setka is a thug.

Join the dots.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 10:16pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 9:07pm:

Lol ;D

Albo isn't the head of the ALP.

He's just a puppet.

The Unions pull all the strings.

Albo will lose.

Nothing surer.

Albo won't be leader at the next election.

I predict the Unions will bring in O'Connor.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 11:14pm

Quote:

On Friday, The Age newspaper reported that Mr Setka had told a recent meeting of the union's national executive that the work of Ms Batty had led to men having few rights.

Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-10/rosie-batty-slams-john-setka-domestic-violence-comments/11195146

It has taken me until today to figure out what the story was with this man's comments. Setka seems to not be denying the allegations. But rather claiming that the comments were taken out of context.

Perhaps it will always be "too soon" for some men to comment on their rights.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 12:46am

Setka has form

Quote:

John Setka's "denigrating" of domestic violence campaigner Rosie Batty and his alleged harassment of a woman is just the latest in a long history of controversial behaviour engaged in by the militant union leader.

The head of the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union in Victoria has an extensive record that includes intimidation, threats and a month in Pentridge Prison in 1990 for breaching a court order telling him to stay away from a building site.

He has told reporters his troubles date back to his youth in Footscray where a policeman would pull him over and tell him “don’t call me a c--t" to instigate a confrontation and lay charges against him.

Mr Setka has allegedly told a meeting of the CFMEU national executive that Ms Batty's actions campaigning against domestic violence had led to men having fewer rights. Peter Nicholson

At aged 19, in the 1980s, he would join the militant Builders Labourers Federation under the mentorship of John Cummins, a legend in the labour movement who was arrested dozens of times for going on building sites.

Mr Setka's own industrial conduct was manifest at the infamous Grocon picket in 2012, where he was fined for punching the windscreen of a van driven by a Grocon manager and telling him he hoped he would "die of your cancer" and threatening to "come after [him]".

A decade earlier, in 2003, he had been fined for threatening another Grocon manager by telling him “You just f---ing watch, I’ll get you. I’ve got a 12-year-old son and I swear on his f---ing life, I swear on my son’s life, you watch, I’ll fix you up."

His intimidation continued into 2017 when he issued a "dire warning" to Australian Building and Construction Commission inspectors by saying he would reveal their home addresses and harass them where they lived.

"They will not be able to show their faces anywhere," Mr Setka told a union rally. "Their kids will be ashamed of who their parents are when we expose all these ABCC inspectors."

Mr Setka would later apologise for the comments. But the next year he would tweet a picture of his children holding up a Father's Day message to ABCC head Stephen McBurney that said "Go Get F---d".

He later deleted the tweet and admitted he was emotional on Father's Day and had had a "tough year".

That tough year has only continued.

At the end of 2018, he would launch an offensive outburst against Kevin Rudd at Labor's national conference during Labor leader Bill Shorten's peace overtures to the former prime minister.

After raising his fist at Mr Rudd, Mr Setka called him a "f---ing dog" and "a maggot" over his failure to scrap the building industry watchdog after he was elected in 2007.

The comments enraged senior members of the Labor national executive but Mr Setka maintained his party membership.

Weeks later, police would charge him with the alleged harassment of a woman and allegedly recklessly causing her injury.

His lawyers have indicated he will plead guilty to two charges of harassment, including by carriage service, such as texts and phone calls, while police withdrew dozens of other charges.

Reports in the Herald Sun say Mr Setka sent some 45 text messages to the woman including calling her a "c--t", "drunken moron" and a "weak f---n piece of s--t".

Now, just a few months later, Mr Setka has allegedly told a meeting of the CFMEU national executive that Ms Batty's actions campaigning against domestic violence had led to men having fewer rights.

The union leader has said the comments were taken out of context.

https://www.afr.com/leadership/workplace/the-life-and-crimes-of-john-setka-20190611-p51wj8

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 1:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:16pm:

Quote:

Albo won't last.

:o

Okay, I didn't realise that Albo had removed Brendan O'Connor from Industrial Relations (not sure how I missed that).

Setka's refusal to leave is making a lot more sense now.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

I don't think they'll bring Shorten back.

Jason Clare and Brendan O'Connor are probably the Unions' first choice.

Albo won't last.

why wouldnt he get the backing from those who elected him... well they gave him a free kick everybody else dropped out... ::) ::) ::)

in the mean time I can see SETKA becoming the new leader ;D ;D ;D ;D

why not ? hes the big boy isnt he?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Aussie on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:48pm

The new Leader of what cods...the sewer?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:51pm

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

I don't think they'll bring Shorten back.

Jason Clare and Brendan O'Connor are probably the Unions' first choice.

Albo won't last.

Setka is being kicked out of the Labor Party, so he has no chance of leading it.

I found out today that Albo has removed Brendan O'Connor (my choice for leader) from Industrial Relations.

Interesting.

In case you didn't know, Brendan's brother is Michael O'Connor - the National Secretary of the CFMMEU.

Albo is picking a fight he won't win.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

I don't think they'll bring Shorten back.

Jason Clare and Brendan O'Connor are probably the Unions' first choice.

Albo won't last.

thats what I mean SETKA WONT GO EITHER.... he has the POWER didnt you read sprints link hes gotten away with murder for years hes one of the untouchables... he and his henchmen will burn the place down if they try to get rid of him..

it wont happen...

dunno anyone called oconnor...so doesnt interest me..

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....sounds more like a dictatorship than ever...

get rid of your opponents... ::) ::) ::)

~~we will all look the other way while you do it..~~

charming..

and all the rusted on on here believe they will be voting for the LABOR PARTY ::) when in fact they are voting for the CFMEU. &Co....

strange us libs have been trying to tell them that for years.. ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by PZ547 on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:31pm

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Looks as if Setka is desperate to stay

Quote:

His union colleagues are demanding an audit of the phone records of those involved in the meeting to discover how it was leaked

can you believe that?

Everyone's known a liar, a thief or other lowlife screech when they're caught, 'Who told you? Who said that?'. It's the response of the guilty who're (1) trying to cast the finger at someone else rather than admit and (2) stand-over tactics -- threat in fact, to 'get' whomever exposed them

it's a lowlife's habitual response to being caught

and here we have union members trying the same intimidatory tactics in order to save the neck of their lowlife comrade, Setka

Then look at photos of the thug who's got away with miles too much

a big mouth bully

psychotic

probably gay

He doesn't realise Time has pulled the rug from under him

there he is, sucking in his gut and it's not working. he's lardy. He got old. And it's his turn to be lying toothless in a gutter somewhere, victim of a thug just like himself only younger

time gets them all

then they expect sympathy

he's in the transition phase at the moment, caught between his big mouth bullying of old and his soon to become facade of 'grand old man'. Sort of what happened to Hawke and thousands of others who've had the rug pulled from under them by Time

bullet through the head in the news wouldn't surprise me

he knows too much, has done too much and now his power has been wrenched from him, he's a danger and dispensable

Have a look at it. Photo

Herald

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:01pm

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

I don't think they'll bring Shorten back.

Jason Clare and Brendan O'Connor are probably the Unions' first choice.

Albo won't last.

Where to start? ::)

Yes, Setka won't go - I'm agreeing with you.

Albo will lose this fight, not Setka.

O'Connor?

Okay, I'll explain it ... slowly.

Brendan O'Connor is a Labor politician.

He was the Minister for Employment in the Rudd Government.

A very decent chap, and would make a good opposition leader (i.e. replace Albo).

Will the Unions like him?, I hear you say.

Yes, they sure will - his brother is the National Secretary of the CFMMEU - Michael O'Connor.

And no, you haven't been trying to tell us for years - I've been trying to explain it to you: the Labor Party was created by the Unions, and is run by the Unions.

That's the way it's been since the very beginning.

Just as the Liberal Party are controlled by big business and organised crime, the Labor Party is controlled by the Unions.

You still seem to be the only person in the world who doesn't understand that.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by PZ547 on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:15pm

Don't know why they imagine Aussies have amnesia when they go to the polls

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by matty on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:32pm

No way should Albo resign. He is the best asset for the Liberal Party. No way are swing-voters going to vote for someone so of the left. It’s bewildering that Labor made him leader but then again stupidity is their middle name.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by goldkam on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

I wouldn't call the party corrupt and inept...thats hardly a fair statement. We could go into the corruption of the Labor Party and their affiliations with Unions.

Being a politician is like any other form of employment. Turnbull and Abbott were overthrown because they weren't doing their job properly, whether that be on an ideological, policy or leadership basis. Yes, I acknowledge the reform Scott Morrison is bringing in to limit leadership changes which I think provides more sustainable and stability in the politics.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

I WAS HORRIFIED... AND DIDNT VOTE LIBERAL AGAIN UNTIL THIS YEAR

tell us were you horrified when shortarse assassinated TWO LABOR PMS..

I dont recall you being upset and YOUR party machine gave him the leadership AS A REWARD.. ::) ::)

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:51pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 2:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

cods wrote on Jun 13^th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

I don't think they'll bring Shorten back.

Jason Clare and Brendan O'Connor are probably the Unions' first choice.

Albo won't last.

Where to start? ::)

Yes, Setka won't go - I'm agreeing with you. TICK

Albo will lose this fight, not Setka. ??

O'Connor?

Okay, I'll explain it ... slowly.

Brendan O'Connor is a Labor politician.

He was the Minister for Employment in the Rudd Government.

A very decent chap, and would make a good ::) ::)opposition leader (i.e. replace Albo).

Will the Unions like him?, I hear you say. of course.. brother micky will make sure of that

Yes, they sure will - his brother is the National Secretary of the CFMMEU - Michael O'Connor.

And no, you haven't been trying to tell us for years - I've been trying to explain it to you: the Labor Party was created by the Unions, and is run by the Unions.
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
That's the way it's been since the very beginning.

~~Just as the Liberal Party are controlled by big business and organised crime, the Labor Party is controlled by the Unions.~~

You still seem to be the only person in the world who doesn't understand that.REALLY!

ok my love we are finished... ::)you sound just like mothra and aussie always coming in with the put down..

enough is enough...I am over the lot of you please all migrate back to monks pils.. thank you over and out.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:20pm

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

No, I wasn't horrified at all.

The parties choose their leaders, not the general voting public.

They could change PM (and opposition leader) every six months and it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:22pm

goldkam wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

I wouldn't call the party corrupt and inept...thats hardly a fair statement. We could go into the corruption of the Labor Party and their affiliations with Unions.

It wouldn't be the Labor Party if it wasn't affiliated with the Unions.

::)

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Aussie on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:37pm

Mr Peccerry.....Hawke famously de-registered the BLF. It would not surprise me if Albo moved with Morrison to deregister the CFMMEU. It has become a rogue albatross Union the ALP does not need around its neck.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:42pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Wouldn't surprise me either.

And I'd like to see it happen.

It depends on what the SDA, AWU, and United Voice think about it.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Aussie on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Wouldn't surprise me either.

And I'd like to see it happen.

It depends on what the SDA, AWU, and United Voice think about it.

All Unions (and the ALP) are suffering in terms of public image because of Setka and the CFMMEU. I have had enough of them. Stuffed if I will apologise for that Union at all. I hope Albo does it. Morrison will assist.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:54pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Wouldn't surprise me either.

And I'd like to see it happen.

It depends on what the SDA, AWU, and United Voice think about it.

I'm with ya, 100%.

However, the CFMMEU injects a lot of cash into the ALP, and they have a lot of members.

The ALP needs them, and the other Unions do too.

If the CFMMEU disappear, the SDA, AWU, and United Voice will have to come up with more money.

That ain't gonna happen, because they're all struggling financially.

Albo has taken on more than he can handle, and it's gonna bite him in the arse ... hard!

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

goldkam wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

I wouldn't call the party corrupt and inept...thats hardly a fair statement. We could go into the corruption of the Labor Party and their affiliations with Unions.

It wouldn't be the Labor Party if it wasn't affiliated with the Unions.

::)

you are not talking about AFFILIATION greg your talking ownership

and now you have put it in black and white.

it IS the UNIONS that are in charge ..and they go from one control thug to the next,,,,

I think I said right at the beginning

WATCH YOUR BACK ALBO..

I am thinking he should also get a bullet proof vest and armed guards... and make sure his car is under lock and key.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Aussie on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Wouldn't surprise me either.

And I'd like to see it happen.

It depends on what the SDA, AWU, and United Voice think about it.

Those CFMMEU Members will move to other Unions transporting that money with them. They will not just vanish as people seeking Union representation. Those other Unions of which you speak ought to be gearing up to attract the existing CFMMEU Membership on the basis that Setka, that Union and its thuggery is gawn......or soon will be unless it dramatically gets its act together, and that is unlikely. It is fundamentally corrupt and well past its use by date.

It is time, Albo. Take the far cars on...head on.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:08pm

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

goldkam wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

I wouldn't call the party corrupt and inept...thats hardly a fair statement. We could go into the corruption of the Labor Party and their affiliations with Unions.

It wouldn't be the Labor Party if it wasn't affiliated with the Unions.

::)

I said right at the beginning that it wouldn't work out with Albo.

I honestly don't know what they were thinking.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Wouldn't surprise me either.

And I'd like to see it happen.

It depends on what the SDA, AWU, and United Voice think about it.

The CFMMEU isn't going anywhere.

Albo, unfortunately, is.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:10pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:08pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

goldkam wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

I wouldn't call the party corrupt and inept...thats hardly a fair statement. We could go into the corruption of the Labor Party and their affiliations with Unions.

It wouldn't be the Labor Party if it wasn't affiliated with the Unions.

::)

I said right at the beginning that it wouldn't work out with Albo.

I honestly don't know what they were thinking.

you didnt notice he was the only one who threw his hat in the ring..

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:13pm

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:08pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

goldkam wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

I wouldn't call the party corrupt and inept...thats hardly a fair statement. We could go into the corruption of the Labor Party and their affiliations with Unions.

It wouldn't be the Labor Party if it wasn't affiliated with the Unions.

::)

I said right at the beginning that it wouldn't work out with Albo.

I honestly don't know what they were thinking.

you didnt notice he was the only one who threw his hat in the ring..

Of course I did.

The others were all told to butt out.

From the moment Plibersek said "it's not my time", I knew exactly what was going on.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Dnarever on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 8:01pm

goldkam wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

Quote:

I wouldn't call the party corrupt and inept.

We can agree then Corrupt and incompetent it is.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 12:01am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:13pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:10pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:08pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 7:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

goldkam wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 5:55pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 4:11pm:

cods wrote on Jun 14^th, 2019 at 3:18pm:

I am shocked albo has no support from your mongrel party....

Were you shocked when Turnbull had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

Were you shocked when Abbott had no support from your corrupt & inept party?

FFS ::)

I wouldn't call the party corrupt and inept...thats hardly a fair statement. We could go into the corruption of the Labor Party and their affiliations with Unions.

It wouldn't be the Labor Party if it wasn't affiliated with the Unions.

::)

I said right at the beginning that it wouldn't work out with Albo.

I honestly don't know what they were thinking.

you didnt notice he was the only one who threw his hat in the ring..

Of course I did.

The others were all told to butt out.

From the moment Plibersek said "it's not my time", I knew exactly what was going on.

I meant make a fuss on here....

she blamed her family... yet being deputy didnt impinge on her family.. ::) ::)

cowards what?...maybe the cfmeu thought albo would be a pushover?????????.....

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:34am

It's an interesting thread. On one hand, you have those who would support the ALP over the Libs telling it how it is, the Lib supporters scared of Albo and trying to paint the picture that his leadership is over already, and the dunce in the corner just attacking everyone.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:34am:

we must be reading different threads... ;D ;D ;D

its greg a rusted on lefty who tells us albo is gone hes history....

the few righties are horrified Setka has such massive power...

anyone see what sad kangaroo sees??????? ::)

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:25am

cods wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:34am:

Yes.

The Lib supporters are scared of Albo.

And, juliar is the dunce in the corner attacking everyone (just like it always does).

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 11:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:25am:

cods wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:34am:

Yes.

The Lib supporters are scared of Albo.

And, juliar is the dunce in the corner attacking everyone (just like it always does).

ahhh like sad you only read juliar and judge us all the same.....

huhumm whos afraid of ALBO?...got a couple of names...

;D ;D ;D

we see him as an asset.. :) :)

lets wait for the FIRST POLL... ;D ;D

that will dictate the next 6 years at least..

I recall shortarse never won most popular PM poll yet there was no move to get rid of him... ::) ::)

dont tell us because the pref party was labor.... ::) ::)

because that isnt what the election RESULT tells us..

dont go into denial the result is pretty outstanding.....

and to my knowledge I havent seen any [on here] laborite blame shortarse....

one or two did mumble well he wasnt popular... ::) ::)

he still has a whole lot of clout within the party..

if we are scared of anyone its the cfmeu....it seems to be a little empire built by heavies for heavies....

they are not good people...I do believe albo is a good person......but he has to watch his back.... :( :(

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 11:51am

cods wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 15^th, 2019 at 8:34am:

It's all the usual suspects coming out and attacking albo. We know why.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Captain Nemo on Jul 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm

Meanwhile ... the saga continues:

:D

Judge puts brakes on Labor's plans to kick John Setka out of party

By Noel Towell
July 11, 2019 — 11.50 am

Labor Leader Anthony Albanese might have to go all the way to the High Court in his fight to expel controversial building union leader John Setka from the party.

A hearing in Victoria’s Supreme Court on Thursday morning heard the dispute between the union leader and the party looks set to be put on hold in the short term while the case is decided.

John Setka with his wife Emma Walters outside court last monthCREDIT:JASON SOUTH

Mr Setka is challenging the legal basis of the request for expulsion.

Labor’s National Executive was due to meet on Monday to decide on Mr Setka’s future with the party but Supreme Court Justice Peter Riordan told lawyers for Mr Setka and for the ALP on Thursday that the case was unlikely to be decided before that meeting.

Mr Albanese wants the union leader out of the party, arguing that Mr Setka has repeatedly embarrassed the ALP over the years, most recently with reported comments, that Mr Setka denies, denigrating the work of domestic violence campaigner Rosie Batty.

But the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union’s Victorian construction branch secretary argues that Labor’s Executive Committee does not have the power to expel him and that power lies with the party’s Victorian branch.

In court on Thursday, Michael Borsky, QC, appearing for Labor’s National Secretary Noah Carroll said Mr Setka’s legal argument was ‘‘nonsensical’’ and that it was ‘‘unworkable for a national political party’’ to have to make its decisions according to the differing rules of its various state and territory branches.

Geoffrey Kennett, SC, for Mr Setka, wants an undertaking from Labor that it will not push ahead with Monday’s planned meeting or an injunction from the court to stop the ALP’s ruling body from holding the expulsion vote until the case has been decided.

Mr Borsky argued that the expulsion could go ahead and then be reversed if the court decided that it was indeed unlawful.

Justice Riordan did not rule on the timing of the meeting but indicated that the ‘‘balance of convenience’’ was in Mr Setka’s favour and that the union leader would face ‘‘some prejudice’’ of being kicked out of the party and then reinstated.

The judge said the complexity of the materials put before him by the contending legal teams meant that would have to reserve judgement after hearing the evidence and there would be no decision before Monday.

Justice Riordan also note that the parties to the case were ‘‘at least considering the possibility’’ that the dispute might end up in the High Court.

The case continues.

www.theage.com.au/national/judge-puts-brakes-on-labor-s-plans-to-kick-john-setka-out-of-the-party-20190711-p5268c.html

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 12^th, 2019 at 11:39am

Is Shorty behind all this as he tries to retake the leadership and keep Labor in OPPOSITION for the next 30 years ?

Albo is throwing his weight around hoping he doesn't overbalance.

Wonder what the unions who control Labor reckon about this ?

The unions never had this sort of trouble when Shorty was there.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 13^th, 2019 at 1:06am

The best thing the Union movement could do for its members and the working public is separate itself entirely from Labor as it is now constituted, as the uni quadrangle sidewalk cafe latte` consuming bunch of know-all elitists that it is, and that includes tossing all the feminists out of the ACTU sweet jobs... and then the Union need to go their own way and re-earn respect from the working public as a truly independent organisation dedicated to helping and supporting those who work for a living, and not just as some adjunct to the social revolution designed by the half-educated elitists in Labor these days...

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:18am

what happened to Albo sacking Setka from the ALP by July 5th.??

the silence is deafening

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am

Haven't seen you around the traps for a while, Cods. Is everything O.K?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:28am

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:18am:

what happened to Albo sacking Setka from the ALP by July 5th.??

the silence is deafening

You were missed, cods: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1562488673/

Moves to expel John Setka from the ALP have been put on hold, whilst awaiting a court injunction decision.

This could drag on for months.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:36am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Haven't seen you around the traps for a while, Cods. Is everything O.K?

I have been sick...I am getting better though so watch out...lol..

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:41am

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Haven't seen you around the traps for a while, Cods. Is everything O.K?

I have been sick...I am getting better though so watch out...lol..

Nothing serious, I hope.

Welcome back.

"Federal Opposition Leader Anthony Albanese's plan to expel controversial construction union boss John Setka from the Australian Labor Party next week has been thwarted in the Victorian Supreme Court.

"The battle, which has been described by national branch as "disruptive and detrimental" to the Labor party, could drag on for months, and the matter may end up in the High Court.

"This afternoon the ALP agreed to delay its plans while the Supreme Court considered an injunction request from Mr Setka, the CFMEU construction division secretary, to prevent his expulsion".

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:28am:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:18am:

what happened to Albo sacking Setka from the ALP by July 5th.??

the silence is deafening

who would have guessed I nice relief for a change I would think...I ruffle many feathers .. ::) ::)

so John hasnt gone anywhere.... must make albo look a bit of a dill....I bet shorten is behind setka....what do you think???..

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Haven't seen you around the traps for a while, Cods. Is everything O.K?

I have been sick...I am getting better though so watch out...lol..

I am still being checked over to see what it wasnt or isnt....I think it was an infection just knocked me off my feet..I am a tough old biddy they know they are going to have to kill me with an axe...lol....

I cant see albo winning this round can you???..

he now has the back of the Unions up....how will he look if the court finds in favour of setka?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:54am

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Haven't seen you around the traps for a while, Cods. Is everything O.K?

I have been sick...I am getting better though so watch out...lol..

As long as it wasn't that killer flu.

It's claimed a few lives in WA.

And no, I can't see Albo winning.

At the very worst, Setka might agree to leave the ALP for two years and then come back when Albo is busy pulling the knife out of his back.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Redmond Neck on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:58am

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Haven't seen you around the traps for a while, Cods. Is everything O.K?

I have been sick...I am getting better though so watch out...lol..

Damn!

No more rest for the wicked eh?

And I thought Aussie had beaten you to a pulp and had you banned for life!

;)

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 11:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:54am:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Haven't seen you around the traps for a while, Cods. Is everything O.K?

I have been sick...I am getting better though so watch out...lol..

lol sounds like hes in charge all right.... ::) ::)

he must be so smug. I cant see albo getting over this that and the tax backdown.. hes backed himself into a corner... I can see another spill coming on....and the union will win the next round...thats for sure....

omg shortarse could make a come back...

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 12:34pm

It is definitely Shorty behind all this as he tries to get back the leadership and keep Labor in OPPOSITION for the next 30 years.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 12:43pm

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:54am:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:46am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Haven't seen you around the traps for a while, Cods. Is everything O.K?

I have been sick...I am getting better though so watch out...lol..

You're probably right, unfortunately.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:34pm

It is good to see Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA out and about and trying to sound normal and intelligent.

Won't last though.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:36pm

He should leave now.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:42pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:36pm:

He should leave now.

Who?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 4:12pm

You. Achieved a state of grace with your concern for Cods. You've cleaned your face ; now leave.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 4:13pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 4:12pm:

You. Achieved a state of grace with your concern for Cods. You've cleaned your face ; now leave.

Do you want Albo to resign?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 4:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 4:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 4:12pm:

You. Achieved a state of grace with your concern for Cods. You've cleaned your face ; now leave.

Do you want Albo to resign?

If I was in your position (not literally, I've got a bad back at the moment and can't bend over that far) I'd want Albo to stay exactly where he is.

He doesn't have much chance of leading the ALP to a win at the next election, so I would have thought he's exactly the sort of person you conservatives want as opposition leader.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 6:05pm

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

It is good to see Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA out and about and trying to sound normal and intelligent.

Won't last though.

hes being realistic any right thinking lefty would have to be after the thrashing they just got.. he knows they cant afford to put a foot wrong and yet albo has managed to do just that in the first few minutes...

I think its nice to see a lefty own it for a change, he hasnt pretended its a good look at all so well done greg makes a nice change from the usual stuff we get...

if greg is correct and this takes months to be dealt with then it makes matters even worse...who the hell can have faith in albo while he is tied up in court by his own side... ::) ::)

I dont see Albo resigning hes waited too long for this job

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 7:21pm

Greggy hasn't got a clue what he is talking about. Why it was only the other day he finally realized that Labor had lost the election!!!!!

Hey Greggy how about some of your famous OFF TOPIC SPAM????

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Dnarever on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 7:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:36pm:

He should leave now.

Who?

SoLow he is a disgrace.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 7:33pm

DNA is confused, as surely it is Albo who is the disgrace after Shorty of course.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 7:50pm

Dnarever wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:42pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:36pm:

He should leave now.

Who?

SoLow he is a disgrace.

Now that's an understatement.

The happy clapper will go down in history as our second worst PM (right behind the basher).

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 8:18pm

Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA is trying to appear normal and sound intelligent. Won't last long though.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 8:28pm

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 8:18pm:

~~Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA is trying to appear normal and sound intelligent. Won't last long though.~~

Poor little juliar.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 8:52pm

Greggy is starting to go on a bender. when will Greggy get suspended again ? Greggy, how about some of your famous OFF TOPIC SPAM ?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:00pm

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 8:52pm:

~~Greggy is starting to go on a bender. when will Greggy get suspended again ? Greggy, how about some of your famous OFF TOPIC SPAM ?~~

Poor little juliar.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:05pm

Greggy is coming apart at the seams.

Greggy how about some of your famous OFF TOPIC SPAM ? That stain one was a beauty.

How long before you get suspended again ?

You can let steam off on Munky's GetUp! Propaganda Site as you can use profanity there.

Greggy, were you ever normal ?

Greggy everyone knows you secretly believe Labor won.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Dnarever on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:11pm

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:05pm:

How do you connect this abusive rant to the topic ?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:25pm

DNA, perhaps you should ask Greggy who specializes in this OFF TOPIC SPAM stuff.

I think Albo is trying to do what Kruddy tried - to weaken the connexion between the Unions and the Labor Party.

But with Shorty standing behind him and the unions' hostility focused on him one doesn't like his chances of survival.

But then Albo was always just a temp stand in until Shorty was ready to take over and keep Labor in OPPOSITION for the next 30 years.

But maybe Mr Bean might step up or Eddie Obeid's girl!!!!!

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:49pm

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

I think Albo is trying to do what Kruddy tried - to weaken the connexion between the Unions and the Labor Party.

Oh gee, ya think?

We have ourselves a genius here folks.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:54pm

Oh Goody, crazy Greggy is off on a bender again with his famous OFF TOPIC SPAM.

Greggy I loved that one with the stain - it was SO YOU.

There DNA, I told you Greggy is the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from the backward bankrupt WA state of depression.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:03pm

We have a political analyst genius among us, people.

juliar: "I think Albo is trying to do what Kruddy tried - to weaken the connexion between the Unions and the Labor Party."

Brilliant!

Where does he get his insight from?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Dnarever on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 10:48pm

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

I would think you would do better to focus on the miserable low life Liberals that you supports problems instead of speculating about things you know nothing about and in reality are only stirring up imagined discontent.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 1:23pm

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

It is good to see Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA out and about and trying to sound normal and intelligent.

Won't last though.

You'll be pleased to know that Albo is giving a press conference in Perth right this minute.

He's out in the Hay St Mall, mingling with the shoppers.

I'll pass on your best wishes to him, cods.

;)

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

It is good to see Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA out and about and trying to sound normal and intelligent.

Won't last though.

You'll be pleased to know that Albo is giving a press conference in Perth right this minute.

He's out in the Hay St Mall, mingling with the shoppers.

I'll pass on your best wishes to him, cods.

;)

oh is this his LISTENING tour...... ;D ;D

any idea what they are telling him?... looks like he may be trying to get as far away from Vic as he can,.,...

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 3:57pm

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

It is good to see Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA out and about and trying to sound normal and intelligent.

Won't last though.

You'll be pleased to know that Albo is giving a press conference in Perth right this minute.

He's out in the Hay St Mall, mingling with the shoppers.

I'll pass on your best wishes to him, cods.

;)

oh is this his LISTENING tour...... ;D ;D

any idea what they are telling him?... looks like he may be trying to get as far away from Vic as he can,.,...

Meth and store closures.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/politics/albo-weighs-in-on-perth-meth-zombie-tiff-ng-s-1955821

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 4:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

It is good to see Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA out and about and trying to sound normal and intelligent.

Won't last though.

You'll be pleased to know that Albo is giving a press conference in Perth right this minute.

He's out in the Hay St Mall, mingling with the shoppers.

I'll pass on your best wishes to him, cods.

;)

oh is this his LISTENING tour...... ;D ;D

any idea what they are telling him?... looks like he may be trying to get as far away from Vic as he can,.,...

Meth and store closures.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/politics/albo-weighs-in-on-perth-meth-zombie-tiff-ng-s-1955821

I'm with the Libs on this one.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/opinion/jenna-clarke/liberal-leader-liza-harvey-slams-city-of-perth-council-says-meth-zombies-are-driving-away-families-ng-b881261110z

The meth zombies are everywhere in the Perth CBD.

And, every 5th or 6th shop is closed, and homeless people (who need help) are living in the doorways.

Retail is dying, druggies are everywhere, and homeless people are spread throughout the CBD.

Hmm, remind me not to apply for a job at Tourism WA :)

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 4:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 4:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

It is good to see Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA out and about and trying to sound normal and intelligent.

Won't last though.

You'll be pleased to know that Albo is giving a press conference in Perth right this minute.

He's out in the Hay St Mall, mingling with the shoppers.

I'll pass on your best wishes to him, cods.

;)

oh is this his LISTENING tour...... ;D ;D

any idea what they are telling him?... looks like he may be trying to get as far away from Vic as he can,.,...

Meth and store closures.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/politics/albo-weighs-in-on-perth-meth-zombie-tiff-ng-s-1955821

oh its been many years since i was in Perth I remember the place jumping you had cute shops underground it was a pleasure to go there....it must be so sad to see it like that and yes the bad types move in .. it doesnt sound as is Albo is listening does it???...I was in Sydney a few weeks back and its been a few years and I too was saddened to see it so sad run down just wall to wall traffic....

maybe you need to get down there greg and have a word in Albos ear he needs to face the truth and it isnt always what you want to hear.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 4:23pm

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 4:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 3:57pm:

cods wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 16^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

cods wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

juliar wrote on Jul 15^th, 2019 at 1:34pm:

It is good to see Greggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA out and about and trying to sound normal and intelligent.

Won't last though.

You'll be pleased to know that Albo is giving a press conference in Perth right this minute.

He's out in the Hay St Mall, mingling with the shoppers.

I'll pass on your best wishes to him, cods.

;)

oh is this his LISTENING tour...... ;D ;D

any idea what they are telling him?... looks like he may be trying to get as far away from Vic as he can,.,...

Meth and store closures.

https://www.perthnow.com.au/politics/albo-weighs-in-on-perth-meth-zombie-tiff-ng-s-1955821

I was down there when he was giving the press conference, but I couldn't be bothered talking to him.

Where he was standing is one of the worst spots in the city.

If he was there 4 hours earlier he would have seen homeless people everywhere, and cigarette butts and coffee cups all over the place (and the smell of urine in every doorway).

However, I noticed that the police had moved along all of the homeless people before he arrived.

They do that all the time.

They round them up and shift them all to a different area until the politicians have left the scene.

Disgusting.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 17^th, 2019 at 11:57am

Greggy the OF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA is rattling the remains of his strained brain trying to act normal and trying to appear intelligent - didn't work.

But something to cheer the Lefties up no end. Greggy won't be able to understand a word of this of course.

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 18^th, 2019 at 1:16pm

It is amusing raking over the now cold coals of Labor's abortive puerile attempt at fooling the voters into voting for these fools.

Labor pains: They couldn’t have possibly united such a divided left
JACOB LYNAGH MAY 26, 2019

Yes, Labor lost the election, but much of the blame should go to their divided and delusional voter base.

It’s pretty clear to all at this point that if you’re talking about Australian politics online, nothing that you say is worth anything, because we’re all so foul-minded.

We’re being eaten from the inside as we blame those on the outside. The right is killing itself, the left is killing itself. We’re all responsible for our own destruction.

Every major election in any western country brings with it a sludge, a sludge that marks all who touch it and drags most to the great below. I’m not your father, I’m not here to say, “Let’s all play nice,” but surely you can admit that things have gotten pretty out of hand.

Immediately after the elections came the deluge of “she’s stupid”, “he’s a fascist”, “we’re all doomed and everyone who isn’t me is either dull or they’re immoral”.

We hear that the idiots are the reason why the ALP lost the election. We hear the meme-addicted friendlyjordies types telling us it’s the idiot poor people, or the idiot manual labourers; if you’re not like me, you’re as dumb as a plank of wood; that’s the only reason the ALP lost, you’re all racist idiots.

Read the rest of the dismal failure of Shorty and Labor here

https://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2019/05/26/labor-pains-they-couldnt-have-possibly-united-such-a-divided-left/

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by Sprintcyclist on Jul 18^th, 2019 at 1:22pm

The 'rank and file' should vote Anthony Albanese, John Setka, Bill Shorten and Penny Wong out of the party.

That is the only answer

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 18^th, 2019 at 1:27pm

But SC Albo Sneezy is Labor's great white HOPE!!!!

But can Albo survive the unions and bitter and twisted Shorty ?

Only policies (not posturing) will save Albo’s Labor Party
PROF JOHN WANNA MAY 31, 2019

The Labor Party under Anthony Albanese needs to focus on one thing, and one thing only: robust, logical policy. Everything else is the sea.

Labor has taken a major gamble by appointing Anthony Albanese unopposed as party leader. His speedy elevation came because he was not tarred with the Bill Shorten-Chris Bowen brush that failed so spectacularly on May 18. So a cross-factional deal for a unity ticket held sway.

“Albo” has carefully crafted his image as a knockabout but likeable scallywag. He mixes easily with ordinary folks, “does” the local pubs and community centres, volunteers his services as an occasional DJ. He is a rugby league fanatic who regularly marches in the Sydney Mardi Gras and has a beer named in his honour. He’s an impish politician with a nose for a pithy or humorous riposte; an iconoclastic puncturer of hyperbole and bunkum (remember his throwaway dismissal of the “convoy of no consequence” when a pitiful truck convoy descended on Canberra).

Albanese was also Labor’s smartest parliamentary tactician as the Leader of the House in the Gillard government. He sees himself as a “commonsense guy” who is prepared to “stand up for what (he thinks) is commonsense propositions”.

He also has the distinction of remaining loyal to both former Labor PMs Kevin Rudd and then Julia Gillard, and has earned respect for this among his colleagues, unlike Shorten.

Of more significance, he is from the left wing of the party, which could be a political millstone around his neck as leader.

He regards high office not simply as a vocation but as a messianic obligation. Given his advocacy of radical policies in his recent past, including death duties and redistributive taxes, his promotion to the leadership provides him with ample opportunities to shape the party’s policy agendas. He is, in reality, only the second left-wing leader of the ALP after the troubled H.V. “Doc” Evatt in the 1950s (Julia Gillard was nominally from the left, but more conservative than most of her party colleagues).

Has Albo got a swelled head and gotten too big for his boots ? Read on to discover

https://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2019/05/31/only-policies-not-posturing-will-save-albos-labor-party/

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 18^th, 2019 at 1:28pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2019 at 1:22pm:

The 'rank and file' should vote Anthony Albanese, John Setka, Bill Shorten and Penny Wong out of the party.

That is the only answer

Why would you want Albanese out?

Do you think he has a real chance of leading the ALP to a win at the next election?

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 18^th, 2019 at 1:35pm

Gweggy the OFF TOPIC SPAM VIRUS from WA is trying to act normal and appear intelligent - didn't work.

Labor failed on so many fronts it never had any hope of winning the election. Especially with the hated and despised Shorty up there making voters feel ill.

Labor had an opportunity to exhibit empathy and sense – It failed
MATTHEW REDDIN JULY 3, 2019

Despite positioning themselves as the party of empathy, and despite having nothing to lose, Labor has failed to stay true to their morals and decided to let the innocent suffer.

This family is led by Priya and Nades, who were living quiet, productive lives in the Queensland town of Biloela, a town like so many others which requires people, families, in order that their local services are kept running. Nades was a valued employee at the local meatworks, his wife Priya gave birth to two little girls while living here. In Australia.

The day after Priya’s visa expired in March 2018, Border Force took the entire family from their home, 1,800km away to a Melbourne detention centre. In what may be one of history’s greatest understatements, the town of Biloela wants this family back.

The Labor party has been silent on this, and yet have all but nothing to lose if they actually do the right thing and take a stand against the inhumane treatment of humans under our care. They literally have nothing to lose. They’re in opposition for up-to-the next three years.

A lot can happen in that time, and so there’s no reason not to get on the right side of history. But here we are.

Traditional political understandings have taken something of a beating the last couple of years. Numerous times recently we found ourselves in the wake of big-ticket items up for debate (Trump, Brexit) and the commentary from those you’d think have an understanding of issues such as these would be along the lines of “surely, common sense will prevail.”

And then it doesn’t, and then you’re left scratching your head that even people with the most astute understanding of political science end up being as insightful as those who prognosticate the weather or the results of the Spring Racing Carnival.

The screenwriter William Goldman once said when it comes to the business of films and winning awards, “nobody knows anything,” which it seems is true in politics as it is in the arts. But the show goes on, and those of us who presume to know one thing or another will continue to speculate and get it wrong.

Conventional wisdom has the result in a federal election being decided in western Sydney. As goes them western suburbs, so goes the nation. That’s conventional wisdom. Conventional wisdom also has the new leader of the opposition stepping into the place of a fallen leader not winning the next election. Having said that, the notion of three Prime Ministers inside of six years because of intra-party squabbling would suggest a monumental routing at the polls. And, conventional political wisdom would suggest that an opposition taking tax reform to said poll because a current system (with your franking credits and whatnot) is, by no measure of any strain of economic thought on the planet, a sustainable tax policy. But then, the voters made their choice and they’re said to never get it wrong.

Labor's failures would fill an encyclopedia. Read on.

https://www.thebigsmoke.com.au/2019/07/03/labor-had-opportunity-exhibit-empathy-sense-it-failed-labor-labor-failed-alp/

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by cods on Jul 20^th, 2019 at 10:32am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 18^th, 2019 at 1:28pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 18^th, 2019 at 1:22pm:

The 'rank and file' should vote Anthony Albanese, John Setka, Bill Shorten and Penny Wong out of the party.

That is the only answer

Why would you want Albanese out?

Do you think he has a real chance of leading the ALP to a win at the next election?

well having had the unwinnerable election win...anything is possible but Albo hasnt got that extra bit a PM needs....hes another Beazley a nice guy but soft...we cant have that as PM....

he is marking time as leader even you agree to that..I would even bet they are already checking the numbers.... :(

Title: Re: Union boss - Albo should resign
Post by juliar on Jul 21^st, 2019 at 6:32pm

But can bitter and twisted Shorty stage a comeback and keep Labor in OPPOSITION for the next 30 years ?