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Message started by whiteknight on Jun 11th, 2019 at 1:50pm

Title: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by whiteknight on Jun 11th, 2019 at 1:50pm
Refugee on Manus Island sets himself on fire   :(

A refugee on Manus Island has set himself on fire in the latest self-harm attempt at the former site of the Australian-run detention centre.

News.com.au June 10, 2019


A refugee on Manus Island has set himself on fire, marking the latest in a rapidly rising number of suicide and self-harm attempts at the former site of the Australian-run detention centre.

The Somalian man, aged about 30, set himself on fire while in the East Lorengau camp on Monday, sources on Manus Island say.

The blaze was quickly extinguished.

Images posted to social media by another refugee show the “highly depressed” man, with burns to his upper body, lying on the floor coated in white fire-fighting chemical powder.

“Men on Manus are completely depressed and mentally unwell - the physical and mental conditions are deteriorating day after day,” refugee Shamindan Kanapadhi wrote on Facebook following the incident.


An image shows the man covered in white fire-fighting chemical powder.

The man was briefly hospitalised at a nearby clinic and treated for the burns before being discharged, fellow refugee Benham Satah said.

There have been more than 70 suicide or self-harm incidents by about 50 refugees or asylum seekers on Manus Island since the Australian federal election, the refugee added.

“It’s truly hard to explain it but I am sure it’s more contagious than salmonella or typhoid,” Mr Satah told AAP on Monday.

“Many are thinking about death every second.” “Even religious people are ignoring God nowadays.” The Somali refugee remains under guard by Paladin private security officers but is not receiving doctor’s visits despite his fragile physical and mental condition, Mr Satah said.

“We have no hope or reason to go through another day,” he said, trying to explain the rapid increase in acute mental health incidents. “Everyone is mentally unwell. We have been treated worse than criminals while we didn’t commit any (crimes).” The incident comes one week after another Somali refugee tried to hang himself and a 31-year-old Iranian refugee self-harmed, according to Refugee Action Coalition.   :(

Those two events prompted RAC’s spokesman Ian Rintoul to call for an urgent medical transfer of all at-risk individuals in the former camps. “The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,” Mr Rintoul said in a statement on June 3. The former detention centre was the site of a suspected typhoid outbreak in April.

Outspoken Anglican preacher Father Rod Bower, at the time, said the outbreak showed the federal government had failed to care for the ex-detainees. “All of the deaths on Manus have been preventable from the beginning,” Fr Bower told AAP in April.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:02pm

“The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,”

Morrison and Dutton should be in prison.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,”

Morrison and Dutton should be in prison.



Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:20pm

He he, I got it right again   ;D

I predicted that Fuzzball would be the first one to show support for the government's illegal and inhumane treatment of fellow human beings.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by lee on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
I predicted that Fuzzball would be the first one to show support for the government's illegal and inhumane treatment of fellow human beings.


Where?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:26pm

"Outspoken Anglican preacher Father Rod Bower, at the time, said the outbreak showed the federal government had failed to care for the ex-detainees. “All of the deaths on Manus have been preventable from the beginning,” Fr Bower told AAP in April."



Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by lee on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:26pm:
"Outspoken Anglican preacher Father Rod Bower, at the time, said the outbreak showed the federal government had failed to care for the ex-detainees. “All of the deaths on Manus have been preventable from the beginning,” Fr Bower told AAP in April."


So unless you are Father Rod Bower, the answer is you didn't. Ho Hum.

And even that doesn't address the Fuzzball claim. ;)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
He he, I got it right again   ;D

I predicted that Fuzzball would be the first one to show support for the government's illegal and inhumane treatment of fellow human beings.


He he, you predicted Donald Trump would lose the election, in fact didn't you make a promise that if he did you'd fuqoff from this forum for good?  He he........ ::)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by lee on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:33pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:31pm:
He he, you predicted Donald Trump would lose the election, in fact didn't you make a promise that if he did you'd fuqoff from this forum for good? 


Only when he can no longer use a keyboard or mouse, apparently.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:34pm

“The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,”



Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:31pm
Morrison is Australia's current Hitler.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:34pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:31pm:
Morrison is Australia's current Hitler.


Sieg heil mein fuhrer!


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gordon on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:35pm
A little OT but I have a nice piece of lamb that needs cooking and this unseasonably warm weather makes me feel like a BBQ.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:40pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
A little OT but I have a nice piece of lamb that needs cooking and this unseasonably warm weather makes me feel like a BBQ.


At Haji Gordon's age, the Haji Gordon "nice piece" would more likely be mutton than lamb.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:42pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:40pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
A little OT but I have a nice piece of lamb that needs cooking and this unseasonably warm weather makes me feel like a BBQ.


At Haji Gordon's age, the Haji Gordon "nice piece" would more likely be mutton than lamb.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmgwG4SWa9o

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by PZ547 on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
“The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,”

Morrison and Dutton should be in prison.



you claim to be resident in New Zealand

so what's it got to do with you?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:45pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
“The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,”

Morrison and Dutton should be in prison.



you claim to be resident in New Zealand

so what's it got to do with you?


I'm concerned for those people being abused, no matter where I am.

Moreover, I don't like criminals, no matter where they are.

I'm not surprised to see you supporting the illegal & inhumane treatment of people in need though.






Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by PZ547 on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:48pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:45pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
“The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,”

Morrison and Dutton should be in prison.



you claim to be resident in New Zealand

so what's it got to do with you?


I'm concerned for those people being abused, no matter where I am.

I'm not surprised to see you supporting the illegal & inhumane treatment of people in need though.

I'm confident a poll would agree you should volunteer to go to Manus and help make their lives happier

failing that, seeing you reside in an upmarket region in NZ, no doubt you'd be willing to cash in your assets to buy a rundown place in NZ with your offer to take in at least half a dozen Manus residents, so you can provide for them materially

you've got it in you, so why don't you?



Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by FRED. on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:50pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
“The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,”

Morrison and Dutton should be in prison.



you claim to be resident in New Zealand

so what's it got to do with you?


;) Is the wanker even on the planet?   ;D

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:54pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:45pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
“The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,”

Morrison and Dutton should be in prison.



you claim to be resident in New Zealand

so what's it got to do with you?


I'm concerned for those people being abused, no matter where I am.

I'm not surprised to see you supporting the illegal & inhumane treatment of people in need though.

I'm confident a poll would agree you should volunteer to go to Manus and help make their lives happier

failing that, seeing you reside in an upmarket region in NZ, no doubt you'd be willing to cash in your assets to buy a rundown place in NZ with your offer to take in at least half a dozen Manus residents, so you can provide for them materially

you've got it in you, so why don't you?


The same reason you don't take in any homeless, sick, or elderly people.

;)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by PZ547 on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm
Why are they on Manus, greg?

Don't tell me they're illegals?

How did they get to Manus -- from where?  did they fly straight over from their homeland?  Or did they get to some other place but had no time for that?  Just wanted to get to the Land of Plenty with the free housing, medicals, money, vehicles, jobs taken from Aussies, etc?

He was released a few hours after 'setting himself on fire' wasn't he?

couple of hours?

a blister, perhaps?

He abused himself, greg.  But go on, you little kiwi beauty -- get yourself over there to minister to them and let them know you'll put all you have on the line in order to get them free so they can come to live with you in NZ

surely by now Adern has learned of your undying admiration and affection for her?  So she'll help you get those guys out of Manus and into NZ, surely?


and if they kill you as you sleep, despite your wonderful intentions on their behalf

well, we'll grant you a sainthood -- Saint Peccary, deceased, of Oz Pol


win win


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?

They're asylum seekers, not criminals.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by PZ547 on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?



Who knows, Greg

but there's a saying about biting the hand that feeds you

so there's a basis for it going way back in time

More recently than ancient adages (which have stood the test of time, obviously, seeing they're still in use) psychiatrist and psychologists and others claim now and have done for some time, that 'we tend to hate those upon whom we're dependent'


so we'll leave you to ponder

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:07pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?



Who knows, Greg

but there's a saying about biting the hand that feeds you

so there's a basis for it going way back in time

More recently than ancient adages (which have stood the test of time, obviously, seeing they're still in use) psychiatrist and psychologists and others claim now and have done for some time, that 'we tend to hate those upon whom we're dependent'


so we'll leave you to ponder


So, why don't you take in any homeless people?

What about kids living rough on the street - why don't you put some up in your house?

Abandoned babies - have you provided food & shelter for them recently?

The elderly living in squalid conditions without power and/or water - are you taking some in?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by PZ547 on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?



Who knows, Greg

but there's a saying about biting the hand that feeds you

so there's a basis for it going way back in time

More recently than ancient adages (which have stood the test of time, obviously, seeing they're still in use) psychiatrist and psychologists and others claim now and have done for some time, that 'we tend to hate those upon whom we're dependent'


so we'll leave you to ponder


So, why don't you take in any homeless people?

What about kids living rough on the street - why don't you put some up in your house?

Abandoned babies - have you provided food & shelter for them recently?

The elderly living in squalid conditions without power and/or water - are you taking some in?

I'm curious.




I'm not flapping my gob and posting pics of Morrison

I'm not declaring Morrison and Dutton belong in prison


that's all you, greg


Now you're trying to weasel your way out




Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:13pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?



Who knows, Greg

but there's a saying about biting the hand that feeds you

so there's a basis for it going way back in time

More recently than ancient adages (which have stood the test of time, obviously, seeing they're still in use) psychiatrist and psychologists and others claim now and have done for some time, that 'we tend to hate those upon whom we're dependent'


so we'll leave you to ponder


So, why don't you take in any homeless people?

What about kids living rough on the street - why don't you put some up in your house?

Abandoned babies - have you provided food & shelter for them recently?

The elderly living in squalid conditions without power and/or water - are you taking some in?

I'm curious.




I'm not flapping my gob and posting pics of Morrison

I'm not declaring Morrison and Dutton belong in prison


that's all you, greg


Now you're trying to weasel your way out


Question too hard?

Why don't you take in any homeless people?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by PZ547 on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:13pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?



Who knows, Greg

but there's a saying about biting the hand that feeds you

so there's a basis for it going way back in time

More recently than ancient adages (which have stood the test of time, obviously, seeing they're still in use) psychiatrist and psychologists and others claim now and have done for some time, that 'we tend to hate those upon whom we're dependent'


so we'll leave you to ponder


So, why don't you take in any homeless people?

What about kids living rough on the street - why don't you put some up in your house?

Abandoned babies - have you provided food & shelter for them recently?

The elderly living in squalid conditions without power and/or water - are you taking some in?

I'm curious.




I'm not flapping my gob and posting pics of Morrison

I'm not declaring Morrison and Dutton belong in prison


that's all you, greg


Now you're trying to weasel your way out


Question too hard?

Why don't you take in any homeless people?



Why are you trying to weasel out, greg?

read your own posts

everyone else has

so stop being a chicken and put your money/time/energy where your mouth is

you're the one who believes Morrison and Dutton should be imprisoned


then answer my questions about the origin and stopping off points of these guys and the one with a blister on Manus

why were they sent to Manus?


are they illegals?


why didn't they stay put at their first landing point in their flight as they're required to do?

and why aren't you cashing in your assets so you can provide for them, instead of losing the arguments here?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
He he, I got it right again   ;D

I predicted that Fuzzball would be the first one to show support for the government's illegal and inhumane treatment of fellow human beings.


Greg, you would be the first person to propose Australia doing away with borders and just let anyone come that arrives by any means to be allowed to stay in this country.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 5:16pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
He he, I got it right again   ;D

I predicted that Fuzzball would be the first one to show support for the government's illegal and inhumane treatment of fellow human beings.


Greg, you would be the first person to propose Australia doing away with borders and just let anyone come that arrives by any means to be allowed to stay in this country.


Incorrect.

All claims must be processed.

Those who aren't refugees, should be sent home.

Perhaps you have mistaken me for someone else, because I have never suggested anything even remotely like that.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 5:18pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
are they illegals?

No.

They're either asylum seekers or refugees, neither of which are illegal.


PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
why didn't they stay put at their first landing point in their flight as they're required to do?

There is no law that requires them to stay put at their first landing point.

You have been misinformed.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 5:16pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:20pm:
He he, I got it right again   ;D

I predicted that Fuzzball would be the first one to show support for the government's illegal and inhumane treatment of fellow human beings.


Greg, you would be the first person to propose Australia doing away with borders and just let anyone come that arrives by any means to be allowed to stay in this country.


Incorrect.

All claims must be processed.

Those who aren't refugees, should be sent home.

Perhaps you have mistaken me for someone else, because I have never suggested anything even remotely like that.


I was probably comparing you to Brian.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
are they illegals?

No.

They're either asylum seekers or refugees, neither of which are illegal.


PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
why didn't they stay put at their first landing point in their flight as they're required to do?

There is no law that requires them to stay put at their first landing point.

You have been misinformed.


You might be the one that needs to read up on the rights and responsibilities of asylum seekers. Asylum seekers need to present themselves at the first opportunity to authorities to be able to claim asylum.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:34pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
are they illegals?

No.

They're either asylum seekers or refugees, neither of which are illegal.


PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
why didn't they stay put at their first landing point in their flight as they're required to do?

There is no law that requires them to stay put at their first landing point.

You have been misinformed.


You might be the one that needs to read up on the rights and responsibilities of asylum seekers. Asylum seekers need to present themselves at the first opportunity to authorities to be able to claim asylum.


Yes.

But not at the first country they reach.

If you believe otherwise, cite your reference.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:38pm
"There is no requirement in international law for refugees to seek asylum in the first country they come to.

"Some developed countries have made this an additional requirement in order to avoid processing claims, leaving the large numbers of asylum seekers in camps in Third World countries.

"International law requires that asylum seekers should not be penalised according to the way in which they enter a country.

"Australia’s current policy does not accord with this requirement."


Myths About Asylum Seekers

In case you missed it:

"There is no requirement in international law for refugees to seek asylum in the first country they come to."

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm
Do we honestly need these mentally ill country shoppers?

They get here after doing all manner of stupid things and expect to be given everything.

Send him home
If he wants to die, his own country will do that for him.

There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from
There are so many of them that revert back to these practices when they get here.

Next time, don't put him out
He did it, let it finish

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
are they illegals?

No.

They're either asylum seekers or refugees, neither of which are illegal.


PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
why didn't they stay put at their first landing point in their flight as they're required to do?

There is no law that requires them to stay put at their first landing point.

You have been misinformed.


You might be the one that needs to read up on the rights and responsibilities of asylum seekers. Asylum seekers need to present themselves at the first opportunity to authorities to be able to claim asylum.


Yes.

But not at the first country they reach.

If you believe otherwise, cite your reference.


You cite yours. Then, when I get around to reviewing this topic, I can post the like I have been using since the year 2003.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:09pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Do we honestly need these mentally ill country shoppers?

They get here after doing all manner of stupid things and expect to be given everything.

Send him home
If he wants to die, his own country will do that for him.


The idea to claim to have been persecuted for some reason in your country of origin. But, once inside a safe haven, it defies common sense to go about self-harming or putting at risk harm to other people. Are these people really oblivious to how Australians view violence? Perhaps the asylum seekers were the threat to authorities in their home countries of origin. The asylum seekers got out of their countries because the asylum seekers were not getting their own way. Now they pull this schitt here.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


Judging by the actions of asylum seekers who self harm, it would be a reasonable surmise to say that they would not be good citizens in Australia.

Had you a reason to claim Valkie was a pervert, rapist or paedophile, you could have asked him in a private message if he was of such character.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gordon on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:23pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
are they illegals?

No.

They're either asylum seekers or refugees, neither of which are illegal.


PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
why didn't they stay put at their first landing point in their flight as they're required to do?

There is no law that requires them to stay put at their first landing point.

You have been misinformed.


You might be the one that needs to read up on the rights and responsibilities of asylum seekers. Asylum seekers need to present themselves at the first opportunity to authorities to be able to claim asylum.


Yes.

But not at the first country they reach.

If you believe otherwise, cite your reference.


You cite yours.



Scroll back a few posts, Stevie.

Your turn.

Or, are you a gutless POS?


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:25pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


You are clearly a racist bigot disguised as a human.

Nobody needs to take a look at you.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:31pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


The fatty in budgie smugglers is quite the dobber tonight:

Last PM: Today at 6:55pm


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:32pm
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Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jun 11th, 2019 at 10:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:23pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:34pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 5:18pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
are they illegals?

No.

They're either asylum seekers or refugees, neither of which are illegal.


PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:25pm:
why didn't they stay put at their first landing point in their flight as they're required to do?

There is no law that requires them to stay put at their first landing point.

You have been misinformed.


You might be the one that needs to read up on the rights and responsibilities of asylum seekers. Asylum seekers need to present themselves at the first opportunity to authorities to be able to claim asylum.


Yes.

But not at the first country they reach.

If you believe otherwise, cite your reference.


You cite yours.



Scroll back a few posts, Stevie.

Your turn.

Or, are you a gutless POS?


I think time management is more the issue. And it is not like I did not reply before you made your second reply and hit post after you had posted.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by DonDeeHippy on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gordon on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:12am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


It was an accusation and a smear thinly disguised as a question and Greg has lots of past form in this regard.

Valikies comment was not aimed at a forum member so your point has no relevance

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:14am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


Exactly.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:48am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


Moreover, the original quote from Valkie IS an accusation, and yet nobody seems to have an issue with it.

Why is that?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gordon on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:59am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


And you're ignoring the past form of Greg making these kinds of accusations against forum members.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by DonDeeHippy on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:08am

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:12am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


It was an accusation and a smear thinly disguised as a question and Greg has lots of past form in this regard.

Valikies comment was not aimed at a forum member so your point has no relevance

Didn't he just reverse the posters own words on him ?
Did the original accusation have any fact ?
The man was in such a terrible state of mind he set himself on fire and some guy here accuses the man of being a pedo and says we should of let him burn and you don't think he should be taken to task for this ?
Your hatred for Greggy is blinding you to the horrible thing that was said Gordon.... ;)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gordon on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:13am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:08am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:12am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


It was an accusation and a smear thinly disguised as a question and Greg has lots of past form in this regard.

Valikies comment was not aimed at a forum member so your point has no relevance

Didn't he just reverse the posters own words on him ?
Did the original accusation have any fact ?
The man was in such a terrible state of mind he set himself on fire and some guy here accuses the man of being a pedo and says we should of reignited him and you don't think he should be taken to task for this ?
Your hatred for Greggy is blinding you to the horrible thing that was said Gordon.... ;)


Was the refuge a forum member?

These kind of slurs are Greg's tools od trade. Why are you denying that?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:17am

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:59am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


And you're ignoring the past form of Greg making these kinds of accusations against forum members.


Accusation:

Valkie is unfairly attacking someone who deserves our sympathy & help.

Question:

"Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?"

Everyone else knows the difference, except you.

Perhaps this would be of some benefit: https://blogs.transparent.com/english/statements-and-questions/

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by DonDeeHippy on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:20am

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:13am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:08am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:12am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


It was an accusation and a smear thinly disguised as a question and Greg has lots of past form in this regard.

Valikies comment was not aimed at a forum member so your point has no relevance

Didn't he just reverse the posters own words on him ?
Did the original accusation have any fact ?
The man was in such a terrible state of mind he set himself on fire and some guy here accuses the man of being a pedo and says we should of reignited him and you don't think he should be taken to task for this ?
Your hatred for Greggy is blinding you to the horrible thing that was said Gordon.... ;)


Was the refuge a forum member?

These kind of slurs are Greg's tools od trade. Why are you denying that?

Well do you think his statement
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from
There are so many of them that revert back to these practices when they get here.

Next time, don't put him out
He did it, let it finish



Should just be ignored ,

The MAN is in such a mental state that he lit himself on fire...…….


Here you spend so much energy about a poster here chastising a teen that attacked him or doing his job as a lawyer….. Literally new post after new post..

Then someone here accuses a man of being a pedo and we should let him die and you attack Greggy for taking him to task..

Maybe you need to look at yourself and see if you have any compassion or are you just here to get "one" up on other posters.... ;)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:28am

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:12am:
It was an accusation and a smear thinly disguised as a question and Greg has lots of past form in this regard.

Valikies comment was not aimed at a forum member so your point has no relevance


!00% correct.

Miss Pessary is a devious snake masking insults and accusations as so-called questions.

He should undoubtably be banned for his insulting post on this thread.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:29am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:08am:
Didn't he just reverse the posters own words on him ?

Yep.


DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:08am:
Did the original accusation have any fact ?

Nope.


DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:08am:
The man was in such a terrible state of mind he set himself on fire and some guy here accuses the man of being a pedo and says we should of let him burn and you don't think he should be taken to task for this ?

One of the most disgusting posts I've seen on here for a while.


DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:08am:
Your hatred for Greggy is blinding you to the horrible thing that was said Gordon....

Yep.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by mothra on Jun 12th, 2019 at 10:17am

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:59am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


And you're ignoring the past form of Greg making these kinds of accusations against forum members.


And you dont? You start whole threads on what you've been able to glean out of other posters to trash and ridicule them ... in numbers of course, because you're a bully.

Greg did nothing wrong here. This is just the chip on your shoulder speaking.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gordon on Jun 12th, 2019 at 12:23pm

mothra wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 10:17am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:59am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


And you're ignoring the past form of Greg making these kinds of accusations against forum members.


And you dont? You start whole threads on what you've been able to glean out of other posters to trash and ridicule them ... in numbers of course, because you're a bully.

Greg did nothing wrong here. This is just the chip on your shoulder speaking.


Yup, I play hard but my nearly 2 year ban free status is proof I play clean.
I DON'T accuse people of rape and pedophilia.

As you must be well aware, false and frivolous rape allegations are one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims, but you not only stand back and clap when others do it, you are not above partaking yourself, eh Everglade?

More proof you're a fake and a fraud.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12th, 2019 at 12:25pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

As you must be well aware, false and frivolous rape allegations are one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims, but you not only stand back and clap when others do it ...


You took Valkie to task, did you?

Valkie: "There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by juliar on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:09pm
The illegal invaders wlll try anything to come to Australia and go onto WELFARE for LIFE just as they did when Labor was stuffing up Australia.

Is Greggy going to be suspended again ?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:24pm

juliar wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:09pm:
The illegal invaders wlll try anything to come to Australia and go onto WELFARE for LIFE just as they did when Labor was stuffing up Australia.


Indeed.

And they keep flying in, every single day.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:56pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:28am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:12am:
It was an accusation and a smear thinly disguised as a question and Greg has lots of past form in this regard.

Valikies comment was not aimed at a forum member so your point has no relevance


!00% correct.

Miss Pessary is a devious snake masking insults and accusations as so-called questions.

He should undoubtably be banned for his insulting post on this thread.


What the heck. Seriously why are you even on a forum if you don't understand plain English? In context that wasn't an accusation and out of context it wasn't either since it was a question. It is obvious that greggary was just turning the guys bile back on him so he could think about what he said

Spot

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:58pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 10:17am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:59am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


And you're ignoring the past form of Greg making these kinds of accusations against forum members.


And you dont? You start whole threads on what you've been able to glean out of other posters to trash and ridicule them ... in numbers of course, because you're a bully.

Greg did nothing wrong here. This is just the chip on your shoulder speaking.


Yup, I play hard but my nearly 2 year ban free status is proof I play clean.
I DON'T accuse people of rape and pedophilia.

As you must be well aware, false and frivolous rape allegations are one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims, but you not only stand back and clap when others do it, you are not above partaking yourself, eh Everglade?

More proof you're a fake and a fraud.


Nobody accused you either

Spot

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by mothra on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:00pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 10:17am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:59am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


And you're ignoring the past form of Greg making these kinds of accusations against forum members.


And you dont? You start whole threads on what you've been able to glean out of other posters to trash and ridicule them ... in numbers of course, because you're a bully.

Greg did nothing wrong here. This is just the chip on your shoulder speaking.


Yup, I play hard but my nearly 2 year ban free status is proof I play clean.
I DON'T accuse people of rape and pedophilia.

As you must be well aware, false and frivolous rape allegations are one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims, but you not only stand back and clap when others do it, you are not above partaking yourself, eh Everglade?

More proof you're a fake and a fraud.


I have done no such thing.

Link?



Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by mothra on Jun 12th, 2019 at 2:08pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 12:23pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 10:17am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:59am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


And you're ignoring the past form of Greg making these kinds of accusations against forum members.


And you dont? You start whole threads on what you've been able to glean out of other posters to trash and ridicule them ... in numbers of course, because you're a bully.

Greg did nothing wrong here. This is just the chip on your shoulder speaking.


Yup, I play hard but my nearly 2 year ban free status is proof I play clean.
I DON'T accuse people of rape and pedophilia.

As you must be well aware, false and frivolous rape allegations are one of the most harmful things for genuine rape victims, but you not only stand back and clap when others do it, you are not above partaking yourself, eh Everglade?

More proof you're a fake and a fraud.


Nobody accused you either

Spot


Indeed. Gordy thinks that me re-posting this:


AiA wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 5:14pm:

rhino wrote on Jun 2nd, 2019 at 2:46pm:
And yet she didnt complain of rape, she texted "he F..d me" , not "he raped me". Pretty obvious she was a willing participant.


That caught my eye as well. When I was a uni student I was either party to or had intimate knowledge of ... situations ... that today would very likely get me in trouble.




... means i was calling AiA a rapist. He reported me. The Gmods clearly didn't agree. Sensibly.

It begs the question though; what does Gordy think AiA meant for him to conclude that from me re-posting it?



Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 12th, 2019 at 3:21pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


its ok ,

groggy is leaving .. he / she said so ..



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Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 12th, 2019 at 3:25pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:28am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:12am:
It was an accusation and a smear thinly disguised as a question and Greg has lots of past form in this regard.

Valikies comment was not aimed at a forum member so your point has no relevance


!00% correct.

Miss Pessary is a devious snake masking insults and accusations as so-called questions.

He should undoubtably be banned for his insulting post on this thread.


What the heck. Seriously why are you even on a forum if you don't understand plain English? In context that wasn't an accusation and out of context it wasn't either since it was a question. It is obvious that greggary was just turning the guys bile back on him so he could think about what he said

Spot


I see you like to "think about" what Miss Pessary says...blott..(on the Landscape).....(not that there's anything....)



;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 12th, 2019 at 3:27pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


its ok ,

groggy is leaving .. he / she said so ..


There's so much bullschit in Pessary......if you pulled his "nose".......he'd flush himself......

I doubt he's even flew over NZ.....

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jun 12th, 2019 at 4:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:14am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


Exactly.


So......is there a good chance that turd mc turdface is a pervert, rapist and pedophile?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by DonDeeHippy on Jun 12th, 2019 at 4:35pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 4:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:14am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


Exactly.


So......is there a good chance that turd mc turdface is a pervert, rapist and pedophile?

that would assume the question had been asked....had it ? ;)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jun 12th, 2019 at 4:48pm

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 4:35pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 4:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:14am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


Exactly.


So......is there a good chance that turd mc turdface is a pervert, rapist and pedophile?

that would assume the question had been asked....had it ? ;)


Just asking the same question.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:16pm

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 4:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:14am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


Exactly.


So......is there a good chance that turd mc turdface is a pervert, rapist and pedophile?


Well you can stop the accusations now can't you since you did it

Spot

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jun 12th, 2019 at 6:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?

They're asylum seekers, not criminals.


How would you know that?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jun 12th, 2019 at 6:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:13pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?



Who knows, Greg

but there's a saying about biting the hand that feeds you

so there's a basis for it going way back in time

More recently than ancient adages (which have stood the test of time, obviously, seeing they're still in use) psychiatrist and psychologists and others claim now and have done for some time, that 'we tend to hate those upon whom we're dependent'


so we'll leave you to ponder


So, why don't you take in any homeless people?

What about kids living rough on the street - why don't you put some up in your house?

Abandoned babies - have you provided food & shelter for them recently?

The elderly living in squalid conditions without power and/or water - are you taking some in?

I'm curious.




I'm not flapping my gob and posting pics of Morrison

I'm not declaring Morrison and Dutton belong in prison


that's all you, greg


Now you're trying to weasel your way out


Question too hard?

Why don't you take in any homeless people?


Why don't you?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jun 12th, 2019 at 6:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


The fatty in budgie smugglers is quite the dobber tonight:

Last PM: Today at 6:55pm


Upset he's encroaching on your turf?

Don't worry you're still ahead in the dobbing dept.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


Moreover, the original quote from Valkie IS an accusation, and yet nobody seems to have an issue with it.

Why is that?

I'm curious.


If it's an accusation it wasn't made about anyone here.

Your thinly veiled question was....

Cease being a twisty hypocrite.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:05pm

Gnads wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:48am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:39am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Only when taken out if context like you did

Spot


Moreover, the original quote from Valkie IS an accusation, and yet nobody seems to have an issue with it.

Why is that?

I'm curious.


If it's an accusation it wasn't made about anyone here.


How does that excuse Valkie's actions?

Are you suggesting it's perfectly okay to wrongfully accuse someone (in this case, someone in need of help and compassion) of being a "pervert, rapist or pedophile" as long as they aren't a member of OzPol?


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:46am

Gnads wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 6:42pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?

They're asylum seekers, not criminals.


How would you know that?


Quite a few of these CRIMINAL country shoppers have been caught in any number of criminal activities.
A far higher rate than most other demographics in fact.

Perverts
Rapists
Pedophiles
All have re- offended when they have managed to sneak into Australia.
The throw away their passports and papers.
Why?

I put this to you
They throw them away, because they are fleeing criminal charges in their own country.
We have seen these illegal immigrants.
Rape
Murder
Sexually molest disabled persons
Marry children in pedophile marriages.
The list goes on.

I stand by my statement.
We allow criminals and the worst of the worst to come here.
And the apologist, sychophant, islamophiles want more of this trash.

So they attack anyone who speaks out against these animals.
Always personal attacks
Always bordering on accusations, so as to remain active.

Percentage wise, the demographic of illegal immigrants are far more predisposed to illegal, criminal and terrorist related activities than any other demographic.
This is fact, well doctored, deliberately hidden as much as possible, but still fact.

Attack the truth, never, apologist, sychophant islamophiles always attack the posters.
It's their modus operandi
Always has been, shows just how pathetic they really are.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:37am

Valkie wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:46am:
Percentage wise, the demographic of illegal immigrants are far more predisposed to illegal, criminal and terrorist related activities than any other demographic.
This is fact, well doctored, deliberately hidden as much as possible, but still fact.


Lol    ;D

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by DonDeeHippy on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:37am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:46am:
Percentage wise, the demographic of illegal immigrants are far more predisposed to illegal, criminal and terrorist related activities than any other demographic.
This is fact, well doctored, deliberately hidden as much as possible, but still fact.


Lol    ;D

time to put on our foil hats so the government don't control us again  :D :D

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:49am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 7:37am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 13th, 2019 at 5:46am:
Percentage wise, the demographic of illegal immigrants are far more predisposed to illegal, criminal and terrorist related activities than any other demographic.
This is fact, well doctored, deliberately hidden as much as possible, but still fact.


Lol    ;D

time to put on our foil hats so the government don't control us again  :D :D


Is Valkie just one tinfoil hat away from a rubber room?


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jun 13th, 2019 at 8:20pm
Looks like someone has some new socks

Can someone be really that retarded tgat they honestly think we don't know that they are socks ?

Who else would agree and always be on that individuals side, even with some of the most idiotic statements said individual comes up with.

Must be getting crowded in that tiny collection of twisted synapse.

Go for it, get all your socks to back you up

We will all just sit here and laugh at your stupidity.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Frank on Jul 6th, 2019 at 6:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:31pm:
Morrison is Australia's current Hitler.


Sieg heil mein fuhrer!


Turd's Little Golden Book:


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by rhino on Jul 6th, 2019 at 7:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.
So, this person is now an alleged pervert, rapist or pedophile. Do you agree?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jul 7th, 2019 at 8:40am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 4:01pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
and if they kill you as you sleep ...


Why would they do that?

They're asylum seekers, not criminals.


;D ;D Like you would know

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jul 7th, 2019 at 8:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
"There is no requirement in international law for refugees to seek asylum in the first country they come to.

"Some developed countries have made this an additional requirement in order to avoid processing claims, leaving the large numbers of asylum seekers in camps in Third World countries.

"International law requires that asylum seekers should not be penalised according to the way in which they enter a country.

"Australia’s current policy does not accord with this requirement."


Myths About Asylum Seekers

In case you missed it:

"There is no requirement in international law for refugees to seek asylum in the first country they come to."


Stuff "international law".

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jul 7th, 2019 at 8:46am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:31pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


The fatty in budgie smugglers is quite the dobber tonight:

Last PM: Today at 6:55pm


Oh perlease .... fancy you worrying about dobbers? It's been a forte of yours as long as I've been on this forum.

Bit of your own back ey?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jul 7th, 2019 at 8:48am
Back on topic

Perhaps we should encourage these retarded country shoppers to set themselves on fire......and let them burn.

Save us all a fortune

Perhaps we could convince some of the socks on this forum to do the same.

what would that be sockicide?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jul 7th, 2019 at 8:52am
interesting information in the paper

over 200 country shoppers have been sent back to their countries because they failed the character test.

Pedophoiles 99of them, rapists, murderers etc have all been sent back.

And these are just the ones they have been able to find out about.

How many others of these creatures are criminals who have ditched their identity to come here and do it all again?

Many of these creatures have been caught doing disgusting things.
Many are and will continue to be criminals.

We dont need this shite.

No papers, no history, no entry.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jul 7th, 2019 at 8:54am

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:20am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:13am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 9:08am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 8:12am:

DonDeeHippy wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 7:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.

Yes I'm with Greggy on this one, if someone makes a accusation he should be questioned on it, and using a posters own words on them is a good way to let them reflect on what they say...
I don't understand how it can even be considered a ban able offence,,, anyone ?;)


It was an accusation and a smear thinly disguised as a question and Greg has lots of past form in this regard.

Valikies comment was not aimed at a forum member so your point has no relevance

Didn't he just reverse the posters own words on him ?
Did the original accusation have any fact ?
The man was in such a terrible state of mind he set himself on fire and some guy here accuses the man of being a pedo and says we should of reignited him and you don't think he should be taken to task for this ?
Your hatred for Greggy is blinding you to the horrible thing that was said Gordon.... ;)


Was the refuge a forum member?

These kind of slurs are Greg's tools od trade. Why are you denying that?

Well do you think his statement
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from
There are so many of them that revert back to these practices when they get here.

Next time, don't put him out
He did it, let it finish



Should just be ignored ,

The MAN is in such a mental state that he lit himself on fire...…….


Here you spend so much energy about a poster here chastising a teen that attacked him or doing his job as a lawyer….. Literally new post after new post..

Then someone here accuses a man of being a pedo and we should let him die and you attack Greggy for taking him to task..

Maybe you need to look at yourself and see if you have any compassion or are you just here to get "one" up on other posters.... ;)


So he is in a mental state why?

He's not being persecuted, he's safe, he's fed, he's sheltered.

It's because he's not getting what he wants & that's unfettered entry to Australia.

Tell me if he was in that sort of situation in his home country ... why wouldn't his mental state have been just as bad that he didn't self immolate back there?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jul 7th, 2019 at 3:39pm
OVER 200 SENT BACK

OVER 200 THAT FAILED AN EXTREMELY LIBERAL CHARACTER TEST.

WHAT SORT HAVE WE GOT WHO JUST PASSED?

WHAT SORT HAVE WE GOT WHO HID THEIR IDENTITIES?

WHY DID THEY HIDE THEIR IDENTITIES?

I put this to you.
Because in the country they fled from
They are criminals of the worst sort.
Why hide your identity if you are a genuine refugee?

And why, once they get here, do they get involved in disgusting perverted behaviour.
Percentage wise, these country shopping illegals are involved in some pretty disgusting activities.

But the apologist, sychophant islamophile morons prefer to attack anyone who brings these facts to the table.
Trying to shut down either discussion or the poster.
Not arguing against fact, but attacking the poster and using socks in an attempt to elicit responses to have that poster shut down.

Yes, turd mc turdface, I am referring to you and your socks.

Too scared to take on fact
Too immature to argue with logic or debate.
Just insults, slights, innuendo and thinly veiled accusations.

You are nothing more than a pathetic troll.
Do your worst.
Insult me, gutless trolls bother me as much as cockroaches.
One on one, you woukd be a total coward
Have you ever even had a fight in real life, IN YOUR LIFE?

Hiding behind your computer you feel safe.
But it's a hollow life you live.
Too afraid to take on real people you troll looking for targets.
You invent friends, because in real life you have none.

I have ignored you before
I will now ignore you and your socks again.
Please, get a life
Get out into the world and make some real live friends.
GET away from the computer and get some damn exercise.

It might just help you to live past 40.
And it will most certainly have a better life.

You sad poor troll.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 7th, 2019 at 4:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 2:02pm:
“The Australian government continues to persecute people that have been found to be owed international protection,”

Morrison and Dutton should be in prison.


Morrison and Dutton did not set the idiot asylum seeker on fire. Asylum seeker should have lost his right to refugee protection.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Frank on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 7:38pm:
"There is no requirement in international law for refugees to seek asylum in the first country they come to.

"Some developed countries have made this an additional requirement in order to avoid processing claims, leaving the large numbers of asylum seekers in camps in Third World countries.

"International law requires that asylum seekers should not be penalised according to the way in which they enter a country.

"Australia’s current policy does not accord with this requirement."


Myths About Asylum Seekers

In case you missed it:

"There is no requirement in international law for refugees to seek asylum in the first country they come to."

There is no obligation to give asylum to people who come to you from safe countries.


Elsewhere in the news on refugees:


A Syrian refugee living in Germany complained on social media about not being able to go on holiday to Syria because he had “something important” to do.
Syrian asylum seeker Aras Bacho, who has previously written for several publications including HuffPost, said he knew at least six Syrians who had travelled from Germany to Syria on holiday.

“Two weeks ago, six Syrians I know went on holiday to Syria to visit their family members and have some peace, especially from Germany. You miss your homeland and it is now everyday life that Syrians do this!” he wrote.
https://twitter.com/ArasBacho/status/1146503410973368320

The international refugee system is completely corrupted and is a rotten system, exploited system.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Secret Wars on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:12pm
Also no obligation to resettle them.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:26pm
Seeing a reffo running around on fire screaming would sure brighten up a dull day in the camps.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:08pm

Valkie wrote on Jul 7th, 2019 at 3:39pm:
Why hide your identity if you are a genuine refugee?


Quite possibly the most ridiculous question that has ever been asked on this forum.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Frank on Jul 11th, 2019 at 10:44pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:08pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 7th, 2019 at 3:39pm:
Why hide your identity if you are a genuine refugee?


Quite possibly the most ridiculous question that has ever been asked on this forum.

Not at all, Turd.


What do genuine refugees have to fear from countries whose protection they seek?


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by rhino on Jul 11th, 2019 at 11:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 8:08pm:

Valkie wrote on Jul 7th, 2019 at 3:39pm:
Why hide your identity if you are a genuine refugee?


Quite possibly the most ridiculous question that has ever been asked on this forum.
What would your answer be?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by rhino on Jul 11th, 2019 at 11:05pm

rhino wrote on Jul 6th, 2019 at 7:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:43am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 12th, 2019 at 5:35am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 9:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Valkie wrote on Jun 11th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from


Is there a good chance that you're a pervert, rapist or pedophile?


This is clearly an accusation disguised as a question.

Vic needs a bit of a look at this.


Yes
It clear that turd mc turdface is due for another holiday.

Accusations of this kind are not tolerable.

Please remove him from the forum......again.


It's a question, dear, not an accusation.

However, yours WAS an accusation:

"There is a good chance he was a pervert, rapist or pedophile where he comes from".

Accusations of this sort are not tolerable, surely.
So, this person is now an alleged pervert, rapist or pedophile. Do you agree?
looks like pecca too scared to answer this.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 12th, 2019 at 2:09am

Valkie wrote on Jul 7th, 2019 at 8:48am:
Back on topic

Perhaps we should encourage these retarded country shoppers to set themselves on fire......and let them burn.

Save us all a fortune

Perhaps we could convince some of the socks on this forum to do the same.

what would that be sockicide?


Perhaps you should be concerned that you could be up on charges for inciting people to commit suicide. And I don't care that you are on a forum that these asylum seekers are unlikely to see.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 12th, 2019 at 2:15am

Frank wrote on Jul 11th, 2019 at 7:07pm:
The international refugee system is completely corrupted and is a rotten system, exploited system.


People who seek and are granted asylum should have their refugee status revoked if they go back to the country they fled. People who reach a country of safe haven, signatory to the refugee convention or not, and then continue on to another country of safe haven, they should also lose their refugee status revoked.

Refugee conventions seem to be nothing more than a way to mitigate the stigma of people smuggling. When people claim to be from half-way around the world and they want to settle in a generous country in terms of welfare, you really can't sympathise with their claims that they are being persecuted by their home country.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 12th, 2019 at 2:16am
For that matter, someone just has to say that they are gay, and they are granted asylum.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jul 12th, 2019 at 5:08am
Alleged asylum seekers have been found, in the majority of cases, to be nothing short of country shoppers.
Looking for the best deals they can get where they do nothing but create unrest and suck on the welfare tit.

Aided by sychophants or persons looking to cash in on them, they infect countries, gradually turning those once civilized and wonderful countries into despite of unrest and internal strife.

Grubberments, intent on obtaining total control of their people, welcome this desease into their country, knowing that they can use this desease to implement draconian policies that at first appear to be for the good of the people and to protect them from the menace they themselves introduced.

But the people, far too late, recognise that they have been had.
Handing over their freedom and control of their own destiny to grubberments dedicated to absolute control.

Illegal, country shopping refugees are destroying CIVILIZATION exactly as aids destroys the body.
Infecting and appearing to lie dormant, until there are enough of them, then they take over.
Destroying the host, destroying free will and handing it over to animals who worship a sociopath, self confessed pedophile nutcase coward prophet.

Are we beyond redemption?
Can we escape from the inevitable destruction of civilization as it is destroyed by a CULT of DEATH?

Quite possibly yes.

Sychophants, cowards who think placating the tiger will stop it from eating them.
Fools thinking tgat their COMPASSION for the CULT will change a millennia of indoctrination of an entire CULT of DEATH to be human.

The civilized world, as we know it, is being destroyed by fools and mentally ill.
3% of the population, the mentally ill, have begun to force normal healthy people to keep silent about this illness and even embrace it.
The CULT of DEATH is spreading throughout the civilized world, murder, rape and innumerable other acts ignored.
But take arms against this CULT, and you find yourself and your entire culture ostracized.

I am thankful that I am too old to see the final destruction of civilization
Too old to be tainted by the mentally ill and CULT takeover.
But I fear for my grandchildren.
All because the grubberments of the world crave more and more power.

MAY THEY ROT IN TGE DEEPEST HELL FOR ETERNITY.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 7:28am

Valkie wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 5:08am:
Alleged asylum seekers have been found, in the majority of cases, to be nothing short of country shoppers.


1. There's no such thing as an 'alleged asylum seeker'.  You really should learn the difference between 'asylum seekers' and 'refugees'.

2. The vast majority (81%) of asylum seekers have been found to be refugees.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:11am
Yes ... economic refugees.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:40am

Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:11am:
Yes ... economic refugees.


Incorrect, yet again.

There is no such thing as an "economic refugee".

There are 'economic migrants', and there are 'refugees'.

81% of asylum seekers who come by boat, to Australia, are found to be refugees.


Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by PZ547 on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:57am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:40am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:11am:
Yes ... economic refugees.


Incorrect, yet again.

There is no such thing as an "economic refugee".

There are 'economic migrants', and there are 'refugees'.

81% of asylum seekers who come by boat, to Australia, are found to be refugees.



You're so full of it

no wonder you can't stand yourself

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Gnads on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:58am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:40am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:11am:
Yes ... economic refugees.


Incorrect, yet again.

There is no such thing as an "economic refugee".

There are 'economic migrants', and there are 'refugees'.

81% of asylum seekers who come by boat, to Australia, are found to be refugees.


OK then ... economic migrants posing as refugees.  ::)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am

PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:40am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:11am:
Yes ... economic refugees.


Incorrect, yet again.

There is no such thing as an "economic refugee".

There are 'economic migrants', and there are 'refugees'.

81% of asylum seekers who come by boat, to Australia, are found to be refugees.



You're so full of it


It's a fact.

There is no such thing as an "economic refugee".

There are 'economic migrants', and there are 'refugees'.

And, 81% of asylum seekers who come by boat to Australia are found to be refugees.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by PZ547 on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am
.
Within civilised societies

it's considered polite to wait until you're invited



Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:01am

PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am:
.
Within civilised societies

it's considered polite to wait until you're invited


Nobody invited you to speak.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jul 12th, 2019 at 5:33pm

PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am:
.
Within civilised societies

it's considered polite to wait until you're invited


Yes, but these country shopping illegals are not civilized, and never will be.

Barbaric, primitive, violent and retarded, they simply want their deseased CULT to take over the world.

Mostly men, with mental illness, they self harm and demand rights they do not have.
Cowards who leave their families to fend for themselves in an attempt to illegally enter countries so they can sponge off that country, defraud the welfare system, Commit crimes and generally be what they all are.......filthy criminals.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Frank on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am:

PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:40am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:11am:
Yes ... economic refugees.


Incorrect, yet again.

There is no such thing as an "economic refugee".

There are 'economic migrants', and there are 'refugees'.

81% of asylum seekers who come by boat, to Australia, are found to be refugees.



You're so full of it


It's a fact.

There is no such thing as an "economic refugee".

There are 'economic migrants', and there are 'refugees'.

And, 81% of asylum seekers who come by boat to Australia are found to be refugees.

Well, not quite.  Since most of them destroy their IDs, as you acknowledged, they are given the benefit of doubt. They are not found to be refugees, rather, no ground is found to reject their claims because they are unprovable at the time of processing them.  And that's why so many are found, subsequently, to be fakes, criminals, liars.






Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:25pm

Frank wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 6:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am:

PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:40am:

Gnads wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:11am:
Yes ... economic refugees.


Incorrect, yet again.

There is no such thing as an "economic refugee".

There are 'economic migrants', and there are 'refugees'.

81% of asylum seekers who come by boat, to Australia, are found to be refugees.



You're so full of it


It's a fact.

There is no such thing as an "economic refugee".

There are 'economic migrants', and there are 'refugees'.

And, 81% of asylum seekers who come by boat to Australia are found to be refugees.


Well, not quite. 



Yes, quite.

You just can't handle the truth.

Tough.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:32pm
Why is it that reffos who set themselves alight or  starve themselves ever die? They just aren't trying hard enough in my opinion. ::)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
Why is it that reffos who set themselves alight or  starve themselves ever die? They just aren't trying hard enough in my opinion. ::)


Your opinion is worthless, though.

So, not really sure why you even brought it up.

;)

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
Why is it that reffos who set themselves alight or  starve themselves ever die? They just aren't trying hard enough in my opinion. ::)


Your opinion is worthless, though.

So, not really sure why you even brought it up.

;)

Just trying to get their case looked at so they burn a few holes in their clothes or skip a few meals. And dopes like you swallow it hook line and sinker.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:53pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
Why is it that reffos who set themselves alight or  starve themselves ever die? They just aren't trying hard enough in my opinion. ::)


Your opinion is worthless, though.

So, not really sure why you even brought it up.

;)

Just trying to get their case looked at so they burn a few holes in their clothes or skip a few meals. And dopes like you swallow it hook line and sinker.


Refugees don't need to have their cases heard.

Asylum seekers do.

You still don't know the difference, do you?

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
Why is it that reffos who set themselves alight or  starve themselves ever die? They just aren't trying hard enough in my opinion. ::)


Your opinion is worthless, though.

So, not really sure why you even brought it up.

;)

Just trying to get their case looked at so they burn a few holes in their clothes or skip a few meals. And dopes like you swallow it hook line and sinker.


Refugees don't need to have their cases heard.

Asylum seekers do.

You still don't know the difference, do you?

When you know a way to prove their claims of persecution I'll agree.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:01pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
Why is it that reffos who set themselves alight or  starve themselves ever die? They just aren't trying hard enough in my opinion. ::)


Your opinion is worthless, though.

So, not really sure why you even brought it up.

;)

Just trying to get their case looked at so they burn a few holes in their clothes or skip a few meals. And dopes like you swallow it hook line and sinker.


Refugees don't need to have their cases heard.

Asylum seekers do.

You still don't know the difference, do you?

When you know a way to prove their claims of persecution I'll agree.


No need to - they're refugees.

It's already been proven.

As I said, you still don't know the difference between an asylum seeker and a refugee.

I suspect you never will.

You just lack the mental capability.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Mr Hammer on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:33pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
Why is it that reffos who set themselves alight or  starve themselves ever die? They just aren't trying hard enough in my opinion. ::)


Your opinion is worthless, though.

So, not really sure why you even brought it up.

;)

Just trying to get their case looked at so they burn a few holes in their clothes or skip a few meals. And dopes like you swallow it hook line and sinker.


Refugees don't need to have their cases heard.

Asylum seekers do.

You still don't know the difference, do you?

When you know a way to prove their claims of persecution I'll agree.


No need to - they're refugees.

It's already been proven.

As I said, you still don't know the difference between an asylum seeker and a refugee.

I suspect you never will.

You just lack the mental capability.

Proven? How? Do ISIS give interviews with Australian immigration officials discussing how they are trying to kill so and so reffo? Nothing is proven. That's all bulls hit. Anybody from a Fed up country can say somebody is out to get them.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:01am:

PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am:
.
Within civilised societies

it's considered polite to wait until you're invited
Nobody invited you to speak.


A public forum implicitly invites forum members to speak on topics posed.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 7:00am

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:01am:

PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am:
.
Within civilised societies

it's considered polite to wait until you're invited
Nobody invited you to speak.


A public forum implicitly invites forum members to speak on topics posed.


The 1951 UN Refugee Convention implicitly invites refugees to seek asylum in signatory countries.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 13th, 2019 at 2:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 7:00am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:01am:

PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am:
.
Within civilised societies

it's considered polite to wait until you're invited
Nobody invited you to speak.


A public forum implicitly invites forum members to speak on topics posed.


The 1951 UN Refugee Convention implicitly invites refugees to seek asylum in signatory countries.


Perhaps you should read the whole UNRC thing yourself before you are invited to comment.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by greggerypeccary on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:29pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 2:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 7:00am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 11:29pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:01am:

PZ547 wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 10:00am:
.
Within civilised societies

it's considered polite to wait until you're invited
Nobody invited you to speak.


A public forum implicitly invites forum members to speak on topics posed.


The 1951 UN Refugee Convention implicitly invites refugees to seek asylum in signatory countries.


Perhaps you should read the whole UNRC thing yourself before you are invited to comment.


I have.

What part in particular interests you?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Valkie on Jul 14th, 2019 at 4:08pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jul 12th, 2019 at 8:32pm:
Why is it that reffos who set themselves alight or  starve themselves ever die? They just aren't trying hard enough in my opinion. ::)


Nowhere near hard enough.

Perhaps we need to give them a hand

Place a few containers of fuel around the centres and the retards can sole quite a few problems.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by Holdfast on Jul 14th, 2019 at 5:08pm
Seems a lot of people are bending over backwards to justify why we should keep people in such deplorable conditions they resort to self immolation.

Here's one you blokes haven't tried,

WE DON'T WANT ARSONISTS.

Title: Re: Refugee On Manus Island Sets Himself On Fire
Post by UnSubRocky on Jul 15th, 2019 at 12:19am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jul 13th, 2019 at 3:29pm:
I have.

What part in particular interests you?

I'm curious.



Quote:
C. This Convention shall cease to apply to any person falling under the
terms of section A if:
(1) He has voluntarily re-availed himself of the protection of the country
of his nationality;


Those going back to their country of origin "for a holiday", as an example, lose their refugee status.


Quote:
E. This Convention shall not apply to a person who is recognized by the
competent authorities of the country in which he has taken residence as
having the rights and obligations which are attached to the possession of the
nationality of that country.


They step into a country of safe haven and take residence there, being recognised by the authorities, they lose their refugee status. Take note of boat arrivals who have disembarked from Indonesia. It becomes Indonesia's problem to look after asylum seekers. At the very least, Indonesia should process them for the possible relocation to Australia, through proper refugee channels. Not house them as slaves to earn up enough money to travel by boat as an unauthorised arrival.


Quote:
F. The provisions of this Convention shall not apply to any person with
respect to whom there are serious reasons for considering that:
(a) he has committed a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against
humanity, as defined in the international instruments drawn up to
make provision in respect of such crimes;
(b) he has committed a serious non-political crime outside the country of
refuge prior to his admission to that country as a refugee;


Unauthorised arrival to any place before travelling on to Australia for the purpose of claiming refugee status is considered a breach of the laws. We don't know the identity of the asylum seekers. Have they committed serious crimes in their home country? Is their escape motivated by evading the law?


Quote:
Article 27
identity papers
The Contracting States shall issue identity papers to any refugee in their territory who does not possess a valid travel document.


How do we know? Someone escaping persecution will not want authorities to contact authorities in the country of origin to find out the identity of the fleeing asylum seeker.  There may be a remote possibility that the asylum seeker could be hunted down by fanatical lunatics harbouring such a hatred. And if authorities of the country of origin do say that the asylum seeker is a wanted criminal, can that claim be trusted as genuine enough to extradite the accused back to their country for prosecution?

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