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Title: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by juliar on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:48pm

Are they after some of the Lefty plants put there by Gillard ?

Australia: Police raid ABC headquarters over Afghanistan stories
4 minutes ago

Police search the corporation's offices in Sydney in second high-profile probe into news outlets in 24 hours.

Police entering the offices of the national public broadcaster in Sydney, Australia [Australian Broadcasting Corporation via AP]

Police in Australia raided the headquarters of national broadcaster ABC in connection with a series of stories it ran in 2017 on accusations of unlawful killings committed by Australian special forces in Afghanistan.

The operation on Wednesday came just a day after police raided the Canberra home of News Corp Australia journalist Annika Smethurst about a report that detailed the authorities' bid to gain powers to spy on citizens' communications at home.

ABC executives said police searched the corporation's offices in Sydney, targeting three journalists involved in the broadcaster's two-year-old investigative report, known as The Afghan Files.

In 2017, ABC obtained government documents showing Australian special forces had killed innocent men and children in Afghanistan.

The Australian Federal Police said the search was "in relation to allegations of publishing classified material, contrary to provisions of the Crimes Act 1914".

ABC Executive Editor John Lyons said the search warrant demanded access to reporters' handwritten notes, emails, story drafts, footage and passwords, among other things.

Read the intrusive rest here

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/06/australia-police-raid-abc-headquarters-afghanistan-stories-190605052649208.html

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by cods on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

it will give the dweeb something more to whine about . he is such an ugly toad... where ever did they find him?..under a rock?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by juliar on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 6:12pm

Is this McBride a closet Lefty ? Was he put there by Gillard ?

Whistleblower behind ABC raid stands by Afghan leaks
Samantha Maiden 5:35pm, Jun 5, 2019 Updated: 10m ago

Mr McBride says he faces an effective life sentence if found guilty. Photo: ABC

A former Australian military lawyer charged with leaking classified documents at the centre of police raids at the ABC on Wednesday says he is facing life imprisonment but maintains he was acting in the public interest.

Due to appear in the ACT Supreme Court on June 13, David William McBride, 55, is charged over leaks to ABC journalists Dan Oakes, Sam Clark and Chris Masters and has pleaded not guilty in the ACT Magistrates Court.

Mr McBride is charged with theft and three counts of breaching the Defence Act, for being a person who is a member of the defence force and communicating a plan, document or information.

He is also charged under the Crimes Act, which make it an offence for a Commonwealth official to disclose information without authorisation.

The charges relate to an ABC investigation published in 2017 and based on leaked documents called The Afghan Files, which included allegations of unlawful killings by Australian troops.

The lawyer admitted providing all of the documents in question to the ABC, but has pleaded not guilty.

He said he was compelled to act as a whistleblower over Australia waging an “Instagram war” after his attempts to complain to the Department of Defence and police did not result in changes.

“The Defence Force was being misused to carry out operations that were counter productive and costing lives. We were fighting an Instagram war,” he told The New Daily.

Read the rest here

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2019/06/05/abc-raid-david-mcbride/

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 6:18pm

cods wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:57pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

it will give the dweeb something more to whine about . he is such an ugly toad... where ever did they find him?..under a rock?

God only knows Cods. I like to see him try to talk for a couple of seconds after his head had been freshly decapitated by a guillotine.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 7:25pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

What lies do you speak of?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by juliar on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 7:38pm

Greggy has recovered from his sulking session. But he is still not making any sense - then he never does.

Greggy are you going to chuck one of your big mentals and get suspended again ?

Greggy why don't you ask for a special concession to use profanity so you can fully express yourself ?

Greggy still has not recovered from the shock of ITA being put in charge of the former ABC Socialist Propaganda Station.

The ABC Women's Weekly is now part of the Libs media system. Just look how effectively that dismembered hopeless Shorty and got him dumped into the garbage bin.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 7:58pm

It was a raid by the Ministry of Truth.

David Bowie.

"Beware the savage jaw of 1984."

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Dnarever on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:03pm

With the secret police out and about you can tell that the Liberals won the election.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by John Smith on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:03pm

Not just ABC ... they yesterday raided a newscorp journo's house as well as someone affiliated with 2GB .

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by John Smith on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:04pm

cods wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:57pm:

he is such an ugly toad..

what the faq is wrong with you? ::)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:06pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:04pm:

cods wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:57pm:

he is such an ugly toad..

what the faq is wrong with you? ::)

cods is the poster girl for hypocrites all over the world.

I've never come across anyone quite like her.

Everything she hates others for, she does herself ... ten times worse.

The funny (sad) thing is, she doesn't realise she's doing it.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:24pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

Not just ABC ... they yesterday raided a newscorp journo's house as well as someone affiliated with 2GB .

Yeah and newscorp is supposed to be in bed with the Coalition. Bizarre eh? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by John Smith on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:26pm

lee wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

Not just ABC ... they yesterday raided a newscorp journo's house as well as someone affiliated with 2GB .

Yeah and newscorp is supposed to be in bed with the Coalition. Bizarre eh? ;D ;D ;D ;D

but they didn't raid newscorp, did they Lee :D :D :D

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by John Smith on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:06pm:

and she does it all the time ...

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:46pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:26pm:

but they didn't raid newscorp, did they Lee

So a newscorp journo is not an extension of newscorp? Thanks for clearing that up. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by juliar on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:53pm

Gosh the lefties seem a bit scared that the AFP will come after them.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by John Smith on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 9:14pm

lee wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:46pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:26pm:

but they didn't raid newscorp, did they Lee

So a newscorp journo is not an extension of newscorp? Thanks for clearing that up. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure she doesn't feel her home is an extension of newscorps offices. ::)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 9:43pm

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 9:14pm:

I'm sure she doesn't feel her home is an extension of newscorps offices.

Which if course is NOT what I said.

Now imagine that this raid on the ABC also covered her home. It would be considered an extension of the ABC to all the lefties here. ;)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by The_Barnacle on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 10:17pm

Why the raids on Australian media present a clear threat to democracy

The Australian Federal Police has this week conducted two high-profile raids on journalists who have exposed government secrets and their sources.

On Tuesday, seven AFP officers spent several hours searching News Corp journalist Annika Smethurst's Canberra home, her mobile phone and computer.

Soon after, 2GB Radio Presenter Ben Fordham revealed he had been notified by the Department of Home Affairs that he was the subject of a similar investigation, aimed at identifying the source of classified information he had reported regarding intercepted boat arrivals.

And then on Wednesday, the AFP raided the ABC's Sydney headquarters.

The reaction to the raids was immediate and widespread.

The New York Times quoted News Corp's description of the Smethurst raid as "a dangerous act of intimidation towards those committed to telling uncomfortable truths".

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-05/why-raids-on-australian-media-present-clear-threat-to-democracy/11183396

Are we heading down the path of a police state?
And why are the right so silent on this FREEDOM OF SPEECH issue?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 10:27pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

And why are the right so silent on this FREEDOM OF SPEECH issue?

Oh Not an unauthorised release of classified information? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by cods on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 8:04am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:04pm:

cods wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:57pm:

he is such an ugly toad..

what the faq is wrong with you? ::)

and none of you monks mongs do....lolol

you need to take a good look at yourselves.....you come out like cockroaches to attack members here.....crawling over every thread not to to talk about the topic.. but to goad the members.....you have done well I admit so many have been driven away.... >:(

wont be long before another forum has only 4 members...... ;D ;D ;D...

why dont you stay at monks misery where you are all so happy with each other..??????ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

I am curious!

tell me pet why is calling an ABC announcer ugly ?
a reason for you bully boys to ATTACK ME PERSONALLY>>

I am curious!

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by PZ547 on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 8:13am

Quote:

and none of you monks mongs do....lolol

you need to take a good look at yourselves.....you come out like cockroaches to attack members here.....crawling over every thread not to to talk about the topic.. but to goad the members.....you have done well I admit so many have been driven away....

wont be long before another forum has only 4 members...... ...

why dont you stay at monks misery where you are all so happy with each other..??????ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

I am curious!

tell me pet why is calling an ABC announcer ugly ?
a reason for you bully boys to ATTACK ME PERSONALLY>>

I am curious!

[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by cods on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 8:15am

The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 10:17pm:

tell me barnacle ... would you be happy if the ABC published your business details to the world?...

the govt would have secret information that isnt for everybody to know.....

the same as you and I barnacle and I believe the govt of the day does have a right to keep some things secret......and it isnt for any media to take it upon themselves to released said infor.....

there is no such thing as FREEDOM OF SPEECH....lets get that clear....

names get withheld and if the media releases the names they end up in jail....ask HINCH..

they also pixilate out faces.....it happens all the time....

a public servant no matter how high up they are are sworn to secrecy... in this case it looks like someone is leaking classified info.....do you not think its the govts duty to find that person????..

wouldnt you look for the person that was leaking your secret/private info to the world at large on facebook?????? ::) ::)..

how else will they catch someone offside before they shred everything unless they make what we call a raid..... ::) ::)... no doors smashed in.. that I noticed... :)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by cods on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 8:18am

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 8:13am:

Quote:

and none of you monks mongs do....lolol

you need to take a good look at yourselves.....you come out like cockroaches to attack members here.....crawling over every thread not to to talk about the topic.. but to goad the members.....you have done well I admit so many have been driven away....

wont be long before another forum has only 4 members...... ...

why dont you stay at monks misery where you are all so happy with each other..??????ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm....

I am curious!

tell me pet why is calling an ABC announcer ugly ?
a reason for you bully boys to ATTACK ME PERSONALLY>>

I am curious!

[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

thanks pz..... ironic eh!

calling me out .... yet doing the same as they are calling me out on..

makes sense to them.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D..

you should see what they! both of them have said about me at monks misery......they can never claim I have sunk to that level...

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by macman on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 8:42am

See scummo trying to distance the government from the raids, claiming it was carried out by an 'independant' department. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Believable in the case of newscorp, they are in bed with them, but in the case of the ABC.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Just one more attack of the many and still they can't destroy them. Rupert won't be happy.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 8:47am

macman wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 8:42am:

See scummo trying to distance the government from the raids, claiming it was carried out by an 'independant' department.

Looks like he's taking lessons from Trump on how to lie with a straight face.

A very evil man, that happy clapping Morrison.

Let's hope he eventually gets what he deserves.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by philperth2010 on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:11am

Someone must have referred these allegations to the AFP....We condemn other nations for this heavy handed behavior!!!

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:14am

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:11am:

Someone must have referred these allegations to the AFP....We condemn other nations for this heavy handed behavior!!!

Australians were warned about Morrison, but they didn't listen.

Now they'll all pay the price.

Things are only gonna get worse under this criminal government.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:20am

Lying bastard:

"Prime Minister Scott Morrison insists his Government is committed to press freedom ..."

"My government is absolutely committed to freedom of the press," Mr Morrison told journalists.

"These are matters that were being pursued by the AFP operationally, at complete arm's length from the Government, not with the knowledge of the Government, not at the instigation of government ministers.

"These were matters that had been referred to the federal police sometime ago, last year, preceding even my time as coming to be Prime Minister."

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:22am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

I asked him that yesterday, and he wouldn't answer.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:23am

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:41am

Dnarever wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 8:03pm:

With the secret police out and about you can tell that the Liberals won the election.

Ahhh Jim_Puddle-Duck, you should be able to tell they won the election because of the result you plonker.......in your case its no doubt just clicked..... :-/

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:42am

juliar wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:48pm:

How come they didn't do all of this before the election ? What did scumo have to hide ?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:43am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:23am:

"Lying Bastard".............I suppose you'd be an authority on lying bastards Miss Pessary; in fact you could probably give lessons on how to be a lying bastard.......... ;D

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:49am

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:43am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:23am:

~~"Lying Bastard".............I suppose you'd be an authority on lying bastards Miss Pessary; in fact you could probably give lessons on how to be a lying bastard..........~~

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:00am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

He's had to apologise a load of times. He gets it wrong all of the time. Watch his stupid show. I don't mind the mistakes and lies so much. It's the bias I don't like. Very left orientated. I don't care that much about him actually. I was just mucking around.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:01am

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:06am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

So lets get it right is it mistakes or lies. Mistakes are an accidental thing. Lies are deliberate.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:08am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

So lets get it right is it mistakes or lies. Mistakes are an accidental thing. Lies are deliberate.

Critics on national television shouldn't be making mistakes. It affects their credibility.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:12am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

So lets get it right is it mistakes or lies. Mistakes are an accidental thing. Lies are deliberate.

Critics on national television shouldn't be making mistakes. It affects their credibility.

They appear to be honest mistakes that anyone could make, and they are very up front about making corrections.

Not that many of them either.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/corrections/

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:15am

Imagine if Donald Trump's Twitter account had a 'Corrections' page on it.

There wouldn't be enough room on the internet to host it.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:21am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:12am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

So lets get it right is it mistakes or lies. Mistakes are an accidental thing. Lies are deliberate.

Critics on national television shouldn't be making mistakes. It affects their credibility.

They appear to be honest mistakes that anyone could make, and they are very up front about making corrections.

Not that many of them either.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/corrections/

If you say so. There's a fine line between mistakes and lies pecca.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:22am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:12am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

So lets get it right is it mistakes or lies. Mistakes are an accidental thing. Lies are deliberate.

Critics on national television shouldn't be making mistakes. It affects their credibility.

They appear to be honest mistakes that anyone could make, and they are very up front about making corrections.

Not that many of them either.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/corrections/

If you say so. There's a fine line between mistakes and lies pecca.

So, you were mistaken about him telling lies? :-/

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:22am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:12am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

So lets get it right is it mistakes or lies. Mistakes are an accidental thing. Lies are deliberate.

Critics on national television shouldn't be making mistakes. It affects their credibility.

They appear to be honest mistakes that anyone could make, and they are very up front about making corrections.

Not that many of them either.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/corrections/

If you say so. There's a fine line between mistakes and lies pecca.

Indeed, so can you prove they are lies and not mistakes?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:27pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:22am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:12am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

So lets get it right is it mistakes or lies. Mistakes are an accidental thing. Lies are deliberate.

Critics on national television shouldn't be making mistakes. It affects their credibility.

They appear to be honest mistakes that anyone could make, and they are very up front about making corrections.

Not that many of them either.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/corrections/

If you say so. There's a fine line between mistakes and lies pecca.

Indeed, so can you prove they are lies and not mistakes?

can you?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:22am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:21am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:12am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:08am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:06am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:53am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 10:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 5^th, 2019 at 5:53pm:

I hope that pommy guy with the stupid pinhead that does Media Watch gets roasted. He's a bloody lying disgrace.

Which lies are those?

Mr Hammer: the floor is yours ...

So lets get it right is it mistakes or lies. Mistakes are an accidental thing. Lies are deliberate.

Critics on national television shouldn't be making mistakes. It affects their credibility.

They appear to be honest mistakes that anyone could make, and they are very up front about making corrections.

Not that many of them either.

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/corrections/

If you say so. There's a fine line between mistakes and lies pecca.

Indeed, so can you prove they are lies and not mistakes?

can you?

He doesn't think they're lies, Jocko.

Moreover, you're the one who made the initial claim that they were lies, so the onus is now on you to provide the proof.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:37pm

So he gives views that are "~~factually~~ conjecturally enhanced"?

He doesn't check his references?

What?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:41pm

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

So he gives views that are "~~factually~~ conjecturally enhanced"?

He doesn't check his references?

What?

Follow the link I provided, and see for yourself.

Explanations are given for each mistake.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by it_is_the_Roo on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:48pm

The accusation of lies on fact check services are always done by those who get exposed by said fact check services. The same people who support an immeasurable volume of lies that they want to be true.

It's not lies that's the problem, but the truth.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:49pm

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

He doesn't check his references?

That would be the job of the journalists who work on the show.

Paul Barry is the presenter on Media Watch.

Sally Virgoe and Loni Cooper are the journalists.

Jason Whittaker is the editor, and Tim Latham is the producer.

Your beef is probably with one of those people.

Just in case you didn't know, Paul Barry doesn't do his own makeup for TV either, nor does he do the lighting, camera work, or sound.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 1:53pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:49pm:

That would be the job of the journalists who work on the show.

Paul Barry is the presenter on Media Watch.

"Paul Barry is one of Australia's most respected journalists. He joined the ABC's Four Corners in 1987 as an investigative reporter and made his name with an expose of Alan Bond."

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/paul-barry/9835572

;)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:06pm

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 1:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 12:49pm:

That would be the job of the journalists who work on the show.

Paul Barry is the presenter on Media Watch.

Yes, he's a journalist.

On Media Watch though, he's employed as the presenter.

See for yourself:

https://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/about/

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by philperth2010 on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:14pm

Who referred this to the AFP....Who stands to gain from this intimidation against our media and the silencing of dissenters???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:06pm:

Yes, he's a journalist.

And as a journalist he should check his facts.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:18pm

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:06pm:

Yes, he's a journalist.

And as a journalist he should check his facts.

I'm sure he does, when he's working as a journalist.

On Media Watch though, he's working as the presenter.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:34pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

I'm sure he does, when he's working as a journalist.

On Media Watch though, he's working as the presenter.

So your argument is that one necessarily obviates the other. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

He doesn't have any input at all? Oh dear.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:43pm

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:34pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

I'm sure he does, when he's working as a journalist.

On Media Watch though, he's working as the presenter.

So your argument is that one necessarily obviates the other.

He doesn't have any input at all? Oh dear.

My argument is that he is employed as the presenter on that particular show.

There are two journalists employed to do the research and check the facts.

If Paul Barry was also a qualified plumber, would you expect him to fix the leaky taps in the ABC building?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

If Paul Barry was also a qualified plumber, would you expect him to fix the leaky taps in the ABC building?

So a doctor, who was also President of his Lions Club, would not look at an ill member. Because that was not the reason he was elected President. R-i-g-h-t.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:01pm

philperth2010 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 2:14pm:

Who referred this to the AFP....Who stands to gain from this intimidation against our media and the silencing of dissenters???

:-? :-? :-?

Criminals withing the coalition government?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Raven on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:04pm

This should concern people, the AFP raiding journalists who published stories that were clearly in the public interest.

Annika Smethurst of NewsCorp published a story revealing a plan for the Australian Signals Directorate to spy on Australian citizens directly by hacking into critical infrastructure without a warrant. The ASD denied the story at the time and it is now the subject of a raid.

As was the ABC's raid after it revealed how Australian special forces in Afghanistan allegedly killed civilians and covered it up.

All under the guise of 'National Security.'

We are not told how it compromises national security to learn of such things.

It's interesting though that these stories are more then a year old and these raids occurred in the immediate aftermath of an election when the cost of a political scandal is pretty low.

It's concerning that this country has come to the conclusion that scrutinising things done in the name of national security means you are opposed to national security. We even tout out lines like "if you've done nothing wrong you have nothing to fear."

We should all be concerned by this.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:13pm

Raven wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:04pm:

Correct.

This has nothing to do with national security.

"The Telegraph newspaper in the United Kingdom reported the actions had “led opposition MPs and media figures to query whether the recently re-elected centre-right Liberal Party was engaging in a campaign to muzzle press freedom”.

"The global condemnation comes as a leading human rights barrister said the acting AFP Commissioner should explain himself, and if he can’t, then he should be dismissed.

“He should be called before parliament to explain and, if necessary, sacked,” Geoffrey Robertson QC told ABC Radio.

“Either for the delay (in executing the raids) or for, more importantly, undermining Australian democracy by authorising these raids.”

World’s media condemns police raids of the ABC and Annika Smethurst’s home as ‘attack on press freedom’

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:56pm

The so called journalists and their informants et al who have divulged classified operational information about Australian troops in Afghanistan and possibly other theatres of conflict where they serve.

This in NOT freedom of the press, it is treason.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Raven on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:00pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

So you think the public doesn't have the right to know if troops serving our country are engaging in atrocious acts?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:02pm

Raven wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:00pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

So you think the public doesn't have the right to know if troops serving our country are engaging in atrocious acts?

No, they don't have a right, unless they want to get off their fat arse and go take their place......

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:07pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Lol ;D

And what about the children that were murdered by our troops?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:07pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Lol ;D

And what about the children that were murdered by our troops?

when was that?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Lol ;D

And what about the children that were murdered by our troops?

when was that?

Between 2009-2013, during which special forces troops shot dead insurgents along with unarmed men and children.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:20pm

Read summaries of 10 cases between 2009-2013 in which special forces troops shot dead insurgents, but also unarmed men and children.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:20pm:

Read summaries of 10 cases between 2009-2013 in which special forces troops shot dead insurgents, but also unarmed men and children.

Date: 26/9/2013

Location: Spin Kecha village, north west Uruzgan Province

Description: While searching a compound as part of an operation targeting a high value Taliban target, special forces soldiers saw a man, later named as Bismillah Azadi, allegedly pointing a pistol at them. Bismillah was shot and killed by two special forces soldiers, but they were unaware of a child hidden in blankets near him. The child was later discovered with a single gunshot wound to the abdomen and within five minutes was pronounced dead. A payment to the child’s family of $US1,500 was made.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:40pm

A child, hidden in blankets, in a fire fight, dies from a stray bullet and it is murder?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by juliar on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:49pm

The Lefties as usual haven't got a clue and are just making up fairy tails.

What this is about is purging the ABC of Gillard's Lefty Plants.

Ita is there to purify the ABC of the Lefty disease.

This is all part of ScoMo's gathering up the media so he can effortlessly slaughter Labor at any time.

Recall how effective 2GB + Murdoch + the ABC Women's Weekly was in stuffing Shorty into the waste paper basket.

On 2GB the legendary Alan Jones did a stupendous job of alerting the apathetic voters to the EXTREME DANGER to AUSTRALIA that Shorten's vile "Govt" really was.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:08pm

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:40pm:

A child, hidden in blankets, in a fire fight, dies from a stray bullet and it is murder?

If it was your child, what would you call it?

Date: 27/3/2011

Location: Sah Zafar, Chora Valley

Description: Australian and Afghan troops conducting a ‘cordon and callout operation’ were sent to a location where it was hoped they would capture a high-value Taliban target. As they moved along a road they were shot at from a concealed area. The Australians returned fire and immediately moved up to the location from where the shots originated. There they found a dead man and a fatally injured child.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:09pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:40pm:

A child, hidden in blankets, in a fire fight, dies from a stray bullet and it is murder?

More for the apologists:

Date: 28/2/2013

Location: Char Chineh District, Uruzgan Province

Description: Australian and Afghan troops were conducting a sweep through a remote region. The Australians reportedly picked up radio chatter from insurgents indicating an “imminent threat”, and pinpointed two insurgents 1.3 kilometres away from a checkpoint they had set up. They called in a helicopter strike, but then saw the helicopter’s fire hit an area a few hundred metres from where they believed the insurgents were. They halted the air strike and went to where the shots had hit, finding two dead Afghan boys and three dead donkeys.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

If it was your child, what would you call it?

It doesn't matter what I would call it. Murder is premeditated.

"Unlawful killing of a human with malice aforethought"

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:30pm

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:28pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:08pm:

If it was your child, what would you call it?

It doesn't matter what I would call it. Murder is premeditated.

So, capital punishment is murder.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

So, capital punishment is murder.

If you want.

It saves the government heaps.

Although of course that ignores -

"Unlawful killing of a human with malice aforethought"
;)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:42pm

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:35pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:30pm:

So, capital punishment is murder.

If you want.

It saves the government heaps.

Nope.

I've read several reports on the subject.

Most, if not all, say that the death penalty costs more.

"Consequently, while cost is not the only factor to be considered, when it comes down to an argument regarding the benefits of the death penalty to society, the argument that it is cheaper to execute someone than keep them alive in prison for the rest of their lives is utterly wrong."

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:42pm:

"Consequently, while cost is not the only factor to be considered, when it comes down to an argument regarding the benefits of the death penalty to society, the argument that it is cheaper to execute someone than keep them alive in prison for the rest of their lives is utterly wrong."

Please give the cost breakdown of how it is cheaper. One off execution v lifelong incarceration costs. Meals, Accommodation, Medical.

But you are getting further away from your "murder of children".

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:55pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:07pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

Lol ;D

And what about the children that were murdered by our troops?

when was that?

Between 2009-2013, during which special forces troops shot dead insurgents along with unarmed men and children.

Blame the people in the Liberal party and Labor Party who sent them there. I wouldn't of sent them. I have never given a farc about Afghanistan.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 3:35am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:20pm:

Read summaries of 10 cases between 2009-2013 in which special forces troops shot dead insurgents, but also unarmed men and children.

Manslaughter - no intent.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 7:22am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 3:35am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 4:20pm:

Read summaries of 10 cases between 2009-2013 in which special forces troops shot dead insurgents, but also unarmed men and children.

Manslaughter - no intent.

The child's family will be so relieved to hear that.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 7:30am

lee wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 6^th, 2019 at 5:42pm:

Please give the cost breakdown of how it is cheaper. One off execution v lifelong incarceration costs. Meals, Accommodation, Medical.

Financial Facts About the Death Penalty

Reviewing 15 state studies of death penalty costs conducted between 2000 and 2016, the study found that, across the country, seeking the death penalty imposes an average of approximately $700,000 more in case-level costs than not seeking death. The researchers wrote that "all of these studies have found ... that seeking and imposing the death penalty is more expensive than not seeking it." The Oklahoma study reviewed 184 first-degree murder cases from Oklahoma and Tulsa counties in the years 2004-2010 and analyzed costs incurred at the pre-trial, trial, sentencing, and post-sentencing (appeals and incarceration) stages. Capital prosecutions, it found, cost the counties more than 1½ times the amount of incarceration costs than did non-capital trials because capital defendants spent an average of 324 more days in jail prior to and during death penalty trials.

Death penalty vs. life in prison: The costs

The comptroller's report cited the greater expense on the increased complexity of the case, the increased number of agencies in people involved in the case, more time spent by both the prosecution and defense for preparation and more steps in the appellate process.

DEATH PENALTY COST

The greatest costs associated with the death penalty occur prior to and during trial, not in post-conviction proceedings. Even if all post-conviction proceedings (appeals) were abolished, the death penalty would still be more expensive than alternative sentences.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 11:49am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 7:30am:

The Oklahoma study reviewed 184 first-degree murder cases from Oklahoma and Tulsa counties in the years 2004-2010 and analyzed costs incurred at the pre-trial, trial, sentencing, and post-sentencing (appeals and incarceration) stages. Capital prosecutions, it found, cost the counties more than 1½ times the amount of incarceration costs than did non-capital trials because capital defendants spent an average of 324 more days in jail prior to and during death penalty trials.

Oh referencing the States with their interminable appeals process proves so much for Australia. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by macman on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 12:26pm

So, Ita has accused the AFP of intimidation eh righties. Even the right wing plant reckons it was over the top. And in not so many words she pointed the finger as to who is behind it. What now Liar, lets hear your spin.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 12:27pm

lee wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 11:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 7:30am:

Oh referencing the States with their interminable appeals process proves so much for Australia. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

My god, you struggle.

We don't have capital punishment in Australia.

::)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by mothra on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 12:32pm

lee wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 11:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 7:30am:

Oh referencing the States with their interminable appeals process proves so much for Australia. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Are you saying we wouldn't have an exhaustive appeals process for the death penalty?

Just a finding of guilty and out the back with a AR-15 like China?

Always interesting to see what Ozpol members really desire for our country.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 12:40pm

mothra wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 12:32pm:

lee wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 11:49am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 7:30am:

Oh referencing the States with their interminable appeals process proves so much for Australia. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they want.

Another thing people like lee don't understand, is that it takes on average about 11 to 12 years to find out if people on death row have been wrongfully convicted.

So, carrying out the barbaric execution immediately after trial would (and has) result in the murder of many innocent people.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by juliar on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 12:53pm

Geez the old Greggy has fallen out of his tree into the loony bin raving and ranting without a clue what he is on about.

Classic Labor voter.

This is about cleansing the ABC of the remnants of the Lefty Plants put there by Gillard.

And Ita is overseeing this purge of the anti-Australian enemies seeking to commit acts of treasonous infamy.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 1:07pm

Who are they after in ABC ?

Gotta be B1 or B2 ... those two look pretty darn dodgy to me.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 1:21pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 1:07pm:

Who are they after in ABC ?

Gotta be B1 or B2 ... those two look pretty darn dodgy to me.

How do we know who's hiding under those costumes?

They could be anybody - white supremacist terrorists, for example.

Ban the Banana!

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 2:11pm

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by polite_gandalf on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 2:41pm

So to summarise the events of the last week or so...

- news outlet reports on alleged government plan to increase surveilance on its own citizens and gets raided
- same news outlet reports on several boats from Sri Lanka attempting to reach Australia and gets raided again
- Public broadcaster reports on alleged war crimes by Australia military in Afghanistan and gets raided

*ALL* 3 stories are absolutely in the public interest, but embarassing for the government.

All raids occur pretty much the exact moment the ministries of the newly elected government are sworn in - this despite 2 of the stories being reported around 2 years ago.

I'm not really sure what you guys have been talking about in this thread, but I hope the fact that our democracy is being eroded before our very eyes in the most brazen and shocking attack on our press freedom has got at least some mention.

To me, the only thing more shocking than this abuse of police power for blatant political ends, is the fact that very few people in the public seem to actually care.

Wake up people - tomorrow we may not have a free and democratic society.

IT REALLY CAN HAPPEN!!

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 2:47pm

You're forgetting the Internet address "header" record keeping that now takes place on all Australian residents. ;)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Brian Ross on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 3:54pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 2:47pm:

You're forgetting the Internet address "header" record keeping that now takes place on all Australian residents. ;)

Nothing new on that. Ever since email was first invented, headers have existed. They help sysadmins sort out email addressing and sources.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by macman on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:22pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 2:41pm:

As I posted earlier alf even Ita, the libs plant in the ABC, is concerned over these raids.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by juliar on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:32pm

By the time ScoMo has finished the ABC will be as pure as the driven snow - just like 2GB.

All those nasty Lefty Plants put there by Gillard are being rooted out just like weeds.

The ABC is being restored to its Charter but with Ita there the ABC Women's Weekly will become part of ScoMo's media arsenal along with 2GB and Murdoch that will keep Labor+Greenies in OPPOSITION for the next 20 years.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:33pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 2:41pm:

Just face the facts -
we are all being watched all the time.
The Govt. knows your real name & every site you go to and what you've read
& every email, every forum post & every skype message you ever made and
it's all recorded forever.
Even George Orwell could never have imagined what would really happen.

David Bowie,
Beware the savage jaw of 1984.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by juliar on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:39pm

Releasing military operations in time of WAR is TREASON!!!!

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:42pm

juliar wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:39pm:

Releasing military operations in time of WAR is TREASON!!!!

Not if soldiers have committed war crimes.
Covering up war crimes is also an offence.

The Nuremberg trials set a precedent.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:42pm:

Not if soldiers have committed war crimes.
Covering up war crimes is also an offence.

Now all you have to do is show them as "war crimes".

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:50pm

lee wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:42pm:

Not if soldiers have committed war crimes.
Covering up war crimes is also an offence.

Now all you have to do is show them as "war crimes".

Apparently they shot and killed innocent women and children.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:53pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:50pm:

Apparently they shot and killed innocent women and children.

From the excerpts greggy quoted there was no intent. They were accidental shootings. People die in wars. Sad fact. Not all of them the target.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:54pm

lee wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:53pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:50pm:

Apparently they shot and killed innocent women and children.

From the excerpts greggy quoted there was no intent. They were accidental shootings. People die in wars. Sad fact. Not all of them the target.

It's up to the media to investigate if the Govt. won't.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:54pm:

It's up to the media to investigate if the Govt. won't.

From the summaries greggy quoted they were investigated.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by juliar on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 5:00pm

In war time there are many people killed as that is war which doesn't follow Lefties Political Correctness rubbish.

It is easy to sit here in your arm chair and wave your arms around but it is a vastly different thing to be over there with bullets whistling past your ears and bombs exploding near you.

And it is MOST CERTAINLY TREASON to reveal military operations in time of war as that can place our troops in deadly danger.

The time for recriminations is WHEN THE WAR IS OVER.

So the people who revealed military secrets have committed TREASON and will face a very severe sentence for their transgressions.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by macman on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 6:42pm

juliar wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 12:53pm:

This is for Liar who obviously is so slow it cannot comprehend. ITA IS NOT ONE BIT HAPPY WITH YOUR GESTAPO GOVERNMENT LIAR AND SHE INTENDS TO STAND UP FOR THE ABC AND THE FREEDOM OF THE PRESS. I know I'm wasting my time but somebody has to try to help the poor thing to keep up.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 6:51pm

macman wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 6:42pm:

juliar wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 12:53pm:

This is for Liar who obviously is so slow ...

Suggesting that our failed pizza delivery guy is slow, is like suggesting that water is moist.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by macman on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 6:56pm

It's terrible isn't it. Surely there must be a mercy rule we can enforce? Put it out of it's misery? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 7:08pm

macman wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 6:56pm:

It's terrible isn't it. Surely there must be a mercy rule we can enforce? Put it out of it's misery? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Let it suffer, I say.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 9:35pm

juliar wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 5:00pm:

I'm sure the Nazis said the same thing.
You need to study the Nuremberg trials.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by lee on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 10:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

I'm sure the Nazis said the same thing.

Reference?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by polite_gandalf on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 11:03pm

juliar wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 5:00pm:

Whats this got to do with the raid on the ABC?

No one is being charged with treason for exposing allegations of war crimes. In fact no one will be charged with anything - the AFP have already confirmed that.

There is only one purpose to this raid - intimidate the media against embarassing the government. Lets not forget also that one of the soldiers accused of war crimes is now a sitting member of the liberal party - the party of government.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 2:21am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 11:03pm:

juliar wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 5:00pm:

That soldier wasn't accused - his men were - and he failed to back them ...

That is a far bigger crime. He broke the code.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 2:22am

lee wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 10:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

I'm sure the Nazis said the same thing.

Reference?

WW II ..........................

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 2:23am

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:50pm:

lee wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:42pm:

Not if soldiers have committed war crimes.
Covering up war crimes is also an offence.

Now all you have to do is show them as "war crimes".

Apparently they shot and killed innocent women and children.

Aye - but was it deliberate?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Bobby. on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 8:36am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 2:23am:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:50pm:

lee wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 4:42pm:

Not if soldiers have committed war crimes.
Covering up war crimes is also an offence.

Now all you have to do is show them as "war crimes".

Apparently they shot and killed innocent women and children.

Aye - but was it deliberate?

Hopefully the truth will come out now
that the journalists have the information -

that's if they're not put in jail with Gaffer tape over their mouths.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 10:10am

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Aussie on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 11:20am

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 11:03pm:

juliar wrote on Jun 7^th, 2019 at 5:00pm:

Hastie was the very first thing which crossed my mind as well.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 12:35pm

What are they after - installing a Reign of Terror across the board. We've had vilification and personal attack through 'tribunals' and 'commissions' for several decades now - all to support specific social groups - and this has lead to the near collapse of any meaningful discussion and opposition to any silly idea that is added, one on top of the other, in every one of those groups once they are handed some privilege for whining enough.

At least with no Labor we don't have to put up with Apartheid and Aboriginal 'rights' taking control of things and prime land they have their eyes on, and never-ending demands from the whining sheilas of the 'feminist' group for more and more and more no matter the cost.

What a sorry state my country has fallen into since the feminist days began ..... now everyone is on the band wagon - jump up and down, demand, whine, threaten, play the victim while you beat up or rob of a livelihood someone else, intimidate, find fault, vilify opposition - and the world is your oyster.

Now the boot-heel becomes more blatant - the use of police and courts to intimidate and terrorise any opponents rises to the fore - and who can stop it?

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 2:26pm

As Effie would say ...

"Aww .. How embarrassment!" ;D

Correspondence shows Labor demanded an investigation into classified Annika Smethurst leak

By Bevan Shields
June 8, 2019 — 10.49 am

Labor demanded an investigation into the leaking of "highly classified national security information" to the journalist whose home was this week raided by the Australian Federal Police, in a revelation that could blunt the opposition's assault on the government over press freedom.

Correspondence obtained by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age shows shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus wrote to Malcolm Turnbull in 2018 to urge the then prime minister to convene an investigation into how secret government documents were leaked to senior News Corp reporter Annika Smethurst.

Labor has argued the Coalition government is responsible for the raid on Smethurst's Canberra home because the secretary of the Department of Defence referred the leak to the Australian Federal Police.

Smethurst reported on confidential correspondence between the heads of the Department of Home Affairs and Defence Department about how some of the spy powers of the Australian Signals Directorate could be expanded to home soil.

While Mr Dreyfus did not specifically request a federal police probe, he said the "damaging leak" risked undermining Australia's national security and asked Mr Turnbull to order an investigation.

"I am sure I do not need to emphasise with you the gravity of such a security breach," Mr Dreyfus wrote.

"The documents described in the media appear to be extremely sensitive and divulge information about one of Australia’s key security agencies.

"It is therefore incumbent on you to establish an investigation into how such sensitive information held by members of your government was able to find its way into the public domain.

"Ensuring this sort of breach cannot occur again is vital for securing the trust that Australians place in governments on matters of national security."

Mr Dreyfus has since argued that Smethurst's reporting was in the national interest, as has Labor leader Anthony Albanese.

"I think it is a good thing that that was reported, frankly," Mr Albanese said this week. "Australians do have a right to know what is going on in a democracy."

While Mr Dreyfus argued in his letter that the leak was a national security matter, he this week said Smethurst's April 2018 report did not threaten national security.

On Thursday, he told ABC radio: "What is it about Australia’s national security – this is the question the government has to answer – what is it about Australia’s national security that is so threatened by a public discussion of a proposal to allow the Australian Signals Directorate for the first time to spy on Australians?"

In a separate interview on the same day, he said: "I don’t accept that there is some national security reason there for not discussing it."

If found and convicted, the source of the leak faces a jail sentence of up to two years.

In a statement on Saturday, Mr Dreyfus said: "I have never disputed that this leak was of a very serious nature, nor that it should have been looked into. My concern has entirely centred around the raiding of a journalists’ home and the government’s abdication of its responsibility to uphold the principle of press freedom.

"My concern at the time was that the internal chaos of the Turnbull government could compromise the proper functioning of government, as expressed in the letter."

Mr Dreyfus' letter suggested tensions inside the government over Peter Dutton's newly created Home Affairs super portfolio may have been behind the leak to Smethurst.

"The chaos inside government cannot be allowed to interfere with the vital work of our security agencies, or indeed any other arm of the public service engaged with national security," Mr Dreyfus wrote.

"As the government of the day you are the custodian of our nation’s safety. At present your ability to carry out that duty is in question."

In a meeting of the national security committee of cabinet in the days after Smethurt's story, Mr Turnbull swiftly put to bed any thoughts of using the international spy agency to monitor Australians.

Government officials have long been adamant there was never a plan to spy on Australians. Rather, the potential expansion of the ASD's role involved using the agency's capabilities to disrupt in the systems of cyber-enabled criminals such as paedophile rings and organised crime gangs in Australia.

But the change would nonetheless have meant the ASD was carrying out domestic activities in ways it had not been previously.

Home Affairs secretary Michael Pezzullo has previously said that department heads "are obliged" to refer unauthorised disclosures of classified advice to the police investigation.

The AFP is also examining the disclosure of highly classified material to the ABC, which it raided this week in addition to Smethurst's home. The ABC's stories used leaked Defence information to accuse Australia's elite special forces in Afghanistan of killing unarmed men and children.

...

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/correspondence-shows-labor-demanded-an-investigation-into-classified-annika-smethurst-leak-20190608-p51vrs.html

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by polite_gandalf on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 3:50pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

As Effie would say ...

"Aww .. How embarrassment!" ;D

Labor are beyond pathetic on this issue.

I think they would happily rubber stamp the introduction of a full-blown fascist dictatorship if it meant the libs could not wedge them on that terrifying area called "national security".

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 8^th, 2019 at 4:06pm

Agreed.

Same on off-shore detention and boat turn-backs.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 9^th, 2019 at 11:50am

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 9:16am

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 9:42am

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Raven on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:23pm

The really terrifying thing about the AFP raid was how all encompassing the warrant was.

The warrant gave the AFP the power to delete ABC documents if they so chose.

Or to add to them.

Or to alter them.

The warrant also allowed them to look a correspondence that had nothing to do with the story the ABC broke.

This was not about national security. The AFP would not allow a national security threat to continue without any action for two years.

This is about certain Departments of the government not liking what was printed about them.

It's no coincidence that these raids happened straight after the election. A time when political scandals are unlikely to do much damage.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:26pm

Raven wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

This was not about national security. The AFP would not allow a national security threat to continue without any action for two years.

This is about certain Departments of the government not liking what was printed about them.

It's no coincidence that these raids happened straight after the election. A time when political scandals are unlikely to do much damage.

Correct.

It had absolutely nothing to do with national security, and even the most rusted on coalition supporters realise that.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:38pm

Raven wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:23pm:

Yes, well ... I think the technical basis of that is because the file "metadata" is altered even by accessing / copying the file ... ;)

However, the wording is rather startling! :o

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by aquascoot on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. When you are a failure you tend to be bitter resentful and nihilistic. You tend to try to drag down the successful. Thus it is no surprise that failed journalists who hate themselves and their failure would try to drag down our Noble prime minister.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Redmond Neck on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

That is the greatest load of horseshit I have ever heard in my life.

Look up Walkley Awards for journalism you will see the ABC is well represented and not only that the winners currently from the other networks are often ex ABC

Even made look more ridiculous by the Chief Sky News Political Reporter Kieran Gilbert being lured to host ABC's Insiders at the end of the year.

You are a dill!

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:17pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

That is the greatest load of horseshit I have ever heard in my life.

Indeed.

Rest assured though, he'll out do himself tomorrow.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by aquascoot on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:35pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

unrepresentative SWILL

The ABC has not admitted to a lack of political diversity in its staff profile or systemic political bias in its programming. Yet the largest survey in 20 years of political attitudes among journalists found that 73.6 per cent of ABC journalists support Labor or the Greens. The Sunshine Coast University research also found that 41.2 per cent of ABC staff surveyed voted for the Greens. As Chris Kenny wrote in The Weekend Australian, the “federal vote ceiling” for the Greens is just over 10 per cent. On those figures, the ABC’s staff profile is highly unrepresentative of the Australian general public.

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:39pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

aqua's idea of good journalism is Facebook posts and Twitter feeds.

;)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by aquascoot on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

aqua's idea of good journalism is Facebook posts and Twitter feeds.

;)

Aqua understands that the superior man is a man of action and purpose.
Not a naval gazing , self loathing , armchair critic, "stuck in his head" stifled, out of touch leftie bed wetting pussy ;)

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Redmond Neck on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:43pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:35pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

Forgot this bit dope!

But experts told Fact Check that the ABC sub-sample was too small and the rate of undecided and non-response too high to be able to draw accurate conclusions from the survey on ABC journalist voting intention, let alone voting intention of all ABC employees.

Upon releasing the findings in 2013, the author of the study himself, Folker Hanusch, inserted numerous caveats about using sub-samples of the survey, including that the margins of error would be larger than those for the total sample. Professor Davidson neglected to include any of these important caveats in making his claim.

Experts contacted by Fact Check, including Professor Hanusch, also took issue with comparing the results of the survey with larger, more stable studies of the voting intention of the general population, such as Newspoll.

Whilst the survey found that Australian journalists in general tend to skew left, it showed no evidence that ABC journalists were five times more likely to vote for the Greens than the general public, and experts contacted by Fact Check said they did not know of any other recent studies which canvass the voting intentions of ABC journalists.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-13/fact-check3a-abc-greens-voters/9931782

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:54pm

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

aqua's idea of good journalism is Facebook posts and Twitter feeds.

;)

Aqua understands that the superior man is a man of action and purpose.
Not a naval gazing , self loathing , armchair critic, "stuck in his head" stifled, out of touch leftie bed wetting pussy ;)

aqua's motto:

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Redmond Neck on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 3:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:39pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

aqua's idea of good journalism is Facebook posts and Twitter feeds.

;)

And old 2017 discredited articles from Rupert Murdochs Australian

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/jennifer-oriel/diversity-of-thought-practically-whitewashed-by-pc-ideology/news-story/9d16179ec45fe24f6b05072f64540ec7

Or even worse Pickerings Post

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by aquascoot on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 4:40pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:35pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

may i suggest you google professor hanusch.
his articles are of the mothra and gweg ilk

Title: Re: Who are they after in ABC ?
Post by Violet Crumble on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 4:51pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jun 11^th, 2019 at 1:51pm:

Working at the ABC is the consolation prize for being a failure as a journalist. .

Incorrect.

DAVID SPEERS to take over as Insiders host in 2020, ABC confirms.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-05/david-speers-to-take-over-as-insiders-host-in-2020/11183510