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Message started by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 2:29pm

Title: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 2:29pm
Rising sea levels is irrefutable evidence of climate change and warming. There is just no escaping it as these islanders found out the hard way :(

This will be the LNP and Scumos legacy along with the deadbeats from Queensland that helped vote him back him just so they could score jobs digging polluting sh.t out of the ground and contribute to wrecking the planet :( Well done the brains trust at LNP headquarters ! You've done us all proud :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1cdCUZNh04

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by PZ547 on May 21st, 2019 at 2:35pm
Islands appear and disappear all the time


Quote:
Former Prime Minister Julia Gillard buys $2m beachside house in her home town of Adelaide


Julia's not worried

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by PZ547 on May 21st, 2019 at 2:37pm
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Quote:
Malcolm Turnbull's Point Piper waterfront home


Malcolm's not worried

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 2:41pm

PZ547 wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:35pm:
Islands appear and disappear all the time


Quote:
Former Prime Minister Julia Gillard buys $2m beachside house in her home town of Adelaide


Julia's not worried


They are disappearing because sea level is rising which is verifiable and beyond refute. Why are LNP supporters as thick as two planks ?



Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by PZ547 on May 21st, 2019 at 2:42pm
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Quote:
The long time Morrison family home is in Dolans Bay, a sleepy suburb that is home to only 350 residences according to the 2016 Census.

In 2009, the couple paid $900,000 for the three-bedroom house which is on 696sq m, with a pool and is about 500m from the waterfront



Morrison's not worried.

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by PZ547 on May 21st, 2019 at 2:43pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:41pm:

PZ547 wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:35pm:
Islands appear and disappear all the time


Quote:
Former Prime Minister Julia Gillard buys $2m beachside house in her home town of Adelaide


Julia's not worried


They are disappearing because sea level is rising which is verifiable and beyond refute. Why are LNP supporters as thick as two planks ?



Don't know.  I'm not an LNP supporter

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by PZ547 on May 21st, 2019 at 2:47pm
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Quote:
The Member for Dickson and Home Affairs Minister for the Morrison Government has investments in Townsville (QLD), Moreton Is (QLD), Palm Beach (QLD), Spring Hill (QLD) and Kingston (ACT)



Dutton's not worried

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by PZ547 on May 21st, 2019 at 2:51pm
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Quote:
The purchase price of the four-level mansion from Hawke and his wife Blanche d’Alpuget remains undisclosed, but sources say it exchanged for about $14.5 million on Tuesday. It was hoped to sell for $15 million.

It’s an impressive windfall for Hawke, who bought the waterfront property in 1991 for $1.23 million six months before he lost the country’s top job in a leadership ballot to Paul Keating
.

Hawke wasn't worried

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 3:08pm
who cares about those deadbeat politicians. they live their lives in denial for as long as we pay them to.

Of course you probably wouldn't be worried if the tax payer was paying you to live comfortably for the rest of your life !!


Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 4:30pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:29pm:
Rising sea levels is irrefutable evidence of climate change and warming. There is just no escaping it as these islanders found out the hard way



You mean the Solomon Islands. What do you understand about trade winds? Are they related to climate change?



What about the subduction of the Solomon Plate? How is that related to climate?

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 4:40pm
I hope Scumo has got enough room for all of these climate change refugees that he has helped create. Maybe they can get mortgages and help feed his fake services and consumption based economy with yet more debt. Hope his lump of coal that he brought into parliament was worth it :(

Increased sea level predictions could result in displacement of 187m people, study finds

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/112893031/increased-sea-level-predictions-could-result-in-displacement-of-187m-people-study-finds

https://youtu.be/VYnReLNLAZ0



Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 4:52pm

lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:30pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:29pm:
Rising sea levels is irrefutable evidence of climate change and warming. There is just no escaping it as these islanders found out the hard way



You mean the Solomon Islands. What do you understand about trade winds? Are they related to climate change?



What about the subduction of the Solomon Plate? How is that related to climate?


yes all related to climate change. The melting greenland ice has got to go somewhere or maybe you believe that ice never melts :D LOL

https://youtu.be/VYnReLNLAZ0

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 5:03pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:40pm:
I hope Scumo has got enough room for all of these climate change refugees that he has help created.


Don't forget Julia, Kevin, Bill. ;)


Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 4:40pm:
Increased sea level predictions could result in displacement of 187m people, study finds


from your reference -

"Previous predictions for rising sea levels might be incorrect, according to a new study.

The study - published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences - found sea levels may rise by 2 metres by 2100."

So these predictions could also be wrong. ;)

Any chance that they used the discredited RCP8.5?

I will have a look.


Winner. ;D

They consistently use RCP8.5. Which is the worst case scenario. Not business as usual.

And then at the end "We find it plausible that SLR could exceed 2 m by 2100 for our high-temperature scenario, roughly equivalent to business as usual. "


https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2019/05/14/1817205116

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 5:06pm
The melted ice goes where ? Down a drain into the ocean ? :D LOL

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 5:08pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 5:06pm:
The melted ice goes where ? Down a drain into the ocean ? :D LOL



Oh dear. Where did I say melted ice went anywhere other than the ocean?  The question is how much ice will melt. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And of course whether the interglacial ends.

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 5:14pm

lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 5:08pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 5:06pm:
The melted ice goes where ? Down a drain into the ocean ? :D LOL



Oh dear. Where did I say melted ice went anywhere other than the ocean?  The question is how much ice will melt. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

And of course whether the interglacial ends.


don't you ever get sick of your own bullshit ? You're like the rest of them always justifying criminal behaviour :(

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 5:29pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 5:14pm:
don't you ever get sick of your own bullshit ? Y



Perhaps you can point out where I was in error?

You don't seem to have a grasp of much.

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Bam on May 21st, 2019 at 5:39pm
https://xkcd.com/1732/

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 5:56pm
ooh bammy showing his scientific credentials. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by red baron on May 21st, 2019 at 6:29pm
Is this Forum destined to turn into a wankfest from the disgruntled beaten?

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by scurt on May 21st, 2019 at 7:19pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:29pm:
Rising sea levels is irrefutable evidence of climate change and warming. There is just no escaping it as these islanders found out the hard way :(

This will be the LNP and Scumos legacy along with the deadbeats from Queensland that helped vote him back him just so they could score jobs digging polluting sh.t out of the ground and contribute to wrecking the planet :( Well done the brains trust at LNP headquarters ! You've done us all proud :(


Wow, what a drama Queen. You need therapy.

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Armchair_Politician on May 21st, 2019 at 8:22pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:29pm:
Rising sea levels is irrefutable evidence of climate change and warming. There is just no escaping it as these islanders found out the hard way :(

This will be the LNP and Scumos legacy along with the deadbeats from Queensland that helped vote him back him just so they could score jobs digging polluting sh.t out of the ground and contribute to wrecking the planet :( Well done the brains trust at LNP headquarters ! You've done us all proud :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1cdCUZNh04


You DO realise that Australia's contribution to global Co2 levels is less than a half of one percent, right? If we're capable of sinking an island based on that output, then the entire world is buggered based on what even the UK alone emits!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 8:31pm
As Australia is a net carbon (sic) sink our emissions are less than zero. So according to lefty logic we must be lifting them out of the water. ;)

Carbon (sic) is actually CO2 sink. Or CO2 sink if you prefer

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 9:21pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:29pm:
Rising sea levels is irrefutable evidence of climate change and warming. There is just no escaping it as these islanders found out the hard way :(

This will be the LNP and Scumos legacy along with the deadbeats from Queensland that helped vote him back him just so they could score jobs digging polluting sh.t out of the ground and contribute to wrecking the planet :( Well done the brains trust at LNP headquarters ! You've done us all proud :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1cdCUZNh04


You DO realise that Australia's contribution to global Co2 levels is less than a half of one percent, right? If we're capable of sinking an island based on that output, then the entire world is buggered based on what even the UK alone emits!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


what about the crap we export or don't you think we are responsible for any of that ?

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 9:22pm

lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 8:31pm:
As Australia is a net carbon (sic) sink our emissions are less than zero. So according to lefty logic we must be lifting them out of the water. ;)

Carbon (sic) is actually CO2 sink. Or CO2 sink if you prefer


you really believe that crap ? :D ;D LOL We have the highest per head of capita GHG emissions in the world.



Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 9:30pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:22pm:
We have the highest per head of capita GHG emissions in the world.



Yes petal and Australia sinks far more than it emits. That makes it a net sink.

It is part of the reason why per capita emissions are a crock of bovine scat.

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 9:34pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:21pm:
what about the crap we export or don't you think we are responsible for any of that ?


So let's see we export to China. China increases its emissions because they actually have energy starvation from renewables. And they should get a clean bill of health even though are by far the worst emitters on the planet. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 10:01pm

lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:22pm:
We have the highest per head of capita GHG emissions in the world.



Yes petal and Australia sinks far more than it emits. That makes it a net sink.

It is part of the reason why per capita emissions are a crock of bovine scat.


where do you get this sh.t from ? You come right out of a comic strip mate :D :D LOL

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 10:22pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 10:01pm:
where do you get this sh.t from ?


The Chief Scientist of Australia do you?

"Australia has 149 million hectares of forest.  Of this, 147 million hectares is native forest, dominated by eucalypt (79%) and acacia (7%), and 1.82 million hectares is in plantations[i]. Grassland covers around 440 million hectares of land in Australia"

"The amount of carbon taken up every year by dry forests in Australia depends on the weather conditions and age of the trees.  Science tells us that the range for forests with continuous canopies is about 0.5-2 tonnes of carbon per year for each hectare. "

"In other words, over the long haul, more carbon stays in the tree sink than in the grass sink.  Some Australian native eucalyptus forests store up to ten times more carbon per hectare than Australian native and introduced grasslands – both above and below ground."

"Using data from a study of semi-arid Australian grasslands by the Queensland Department of Primary Industry[iv] that accounted for the amount of live grass above ground found that about 5 tonnes of carbon could be stored per hectare of perennial grass year, assuming little grazing.  This compares to carbon stocks of mature dry sclerophyll forest that contain about 100 tonnes of carbon per hectare (with wide variability)."

https://www.chiefscientist.gov.au/2009/12/which-plants-store-more-carbon-in-australia-forests-or-grasses/

So we have 589 million hectares of trees and grasses. If we assume a conservative 1.0 tonne per hectare we have sequestered more than Australia's 556.4M tons CO2e (2017 figures).


Or perhaps you would like satellite confirmation? From the Japanese IBUKI satellite -



Enjoy.

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 11:01pm

red baron wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 6:29pm:
Is this Forum destined to turn into a wankfest from the disgruntled beaten?


No it's a wankfest about all of the losers in Queensland who can't get any other job than screwing up the planet. And then to make themselves feel better they spend all of their times convincing each other how they are doing no wrong :(

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 21st, 2019 at 11:08pm

lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 10:22pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 10:01pm:
where do you get this sh.t from ?


The Chief Scientist of Australia do you?

"Australia has 149 million hectares of forest.  Of this, 147 million hectares is native forest, dominated by eucalypt (79%) and acacia (7%), and 1.82 million hectares is in plantations[i]. Grassland covers around 440 million hectares of land in Australia"

"The amount of carbon taken up every year by dry forests in Australia depends on the weather conditions and age of the trees.  Science tells us that the range for forests with continuous canopies is about 0.5-2 tonnes of carbon per year for each hectare. "

"In other words, over the long haul, more carbon stays in the tree sink than in the grass sink.  Some Australian native eucalyptus forests store up to ten times more carbon per hectare than Australian native and introduced grasslands – both above and below ground."

"Using data from a study of semi-arid Australian grasslands by the Queensland Department of Primary Industry[iv] that accounted for the amount of live grass above ground found that about 5 tonnes of carbon could be stored per hectare of perennial grass year, assuming little grazing.  This compares to carbon stocks of mature dry sclerophyll forest that contain about 100 tonnes of carbon per hectare (with wide variability)."

https://www.chiefscientist.gov.au/2009/12/which-plants-store-more-carbon-in-australia-forests-or-grasses/

So we have 589 million hectares of trees and grasses. If we assume a conservative 1.0 tonne per hectare we have sequestered more than Australia's 556.4M tons CO2e (2017 figures).


Or perhaps you would like satellite confirmation? From the Japanese IBUKI satellite -



Enjoy.


So alleged zero net emissions justifies sending our pollution off shore does it ?

And how does that help the people who live on those islands - who by the way are blaming us for our coal exports ?

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 22nd, 2019 at 4:21pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 11:08pm:
So alleged zero net emissions justifies sending our pollution off shore does it ?


You are changing the argument again. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 11:08pm:
And how does that help the people who live on those islands - who by the way are blaming us for our coal exports ?


Because they want the money from climate reparations. Further proof the cargo cult mentality still exists. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Maqqa on May 22nd, 2019 at 5:48pm

PZ547 wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:35pm:
Islands appear and disappear all the time


Quote:
Former Prime Minister Julia Gillard buys $2m beachside house in her home town of Adelaide


Julia's not worried



Al Gore did the same in Florida LOL  ;D ;D :D :D

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 22nd, 2019 at 11:55pm

lee wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 4:21pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 11:08pm:
So alleged zero net emissions justifies sending our pollution off shore does it ?


You are changing the argument again. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 11:08pm:
And how does that help the people who live on those islands - who by the way are blaming us for our coal exports ?


Because they want the money from climate reparations. Further proof the cargo cult mentality still exists. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


I'll ask you again. What difference does it make to rising see level whether we set fire to the coal in australia or send it overseas to set fire to it ?

And this argument about carbon neutrality is just a red herring that you like to continuously parrot so you can sleep well at night.


Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:29pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 11:55pm:
I'll ask you again. What difference does it make to rising see level whether we set fire to the coal in australia or send it overseas to set fire to it ?


You mean scientifically proven? By how much has it risen? Not modelled, measured. And please differentiate between normal warming SLR and the wicked AGW SLR. ;)


Sir lastnail wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 11:55pm:
And this argument about carbon neutrality is just a red herring that you like to continuously parrot so you can sleep well at night.



Who said anything about carbon (sic) neutrality? I said Australia is a carbon sink. That is our net emissions are blow zero. ::)

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:41pm

lee wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:29pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 11:55pm:
I'll ask you again. What difference does it make to rising see level whether we set fire to the coal in australia or send it overseas to set fire to it ?


You mean scientifically proven? By how much has it risen? Not modelled, measured. And please differentiate between normal warming SLR and the wicked AGW SLR. ;)


Sir lastnail wrote on May 22nd, 2019 at 11:55pm:
And this argument about carbon neutrality is just a red herring that you like to continuously parrot so you can sleep well at night.



Who said anything about carbon (sic) neutrality? I said Australia is a carbon sink. That is our net emissions are blow zero. ::)


Why don't you ask those people if they can still live where they have been living for decades instead of trying to obfuscate it in some excel spreadsheet. Ask them if they even have a place to live now ?

Or perhaps you think it is caused by Aliens focusing some sort of undetectable invisible ray beam on the planet :D LOL

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:46pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:41pm:
Why don't you ask those people if they can still live where they have been living for decades instead of trying to obfuscate it in some excel spreadsheet. Ask them if they even have a place to live now ?


Very good. So YOU have the numbers of climate refugees. Good. Put it out there. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Sir lastnail wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:41pm:
Or perhaps you think it is caused by Aliens focusing some sort of undetectable invisible ray beam on the planet


see above

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:48pm

lee wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:46pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:41pm:
Why don't you ask those people if they can still live where they have been living for decades instead of trying to obfuscate it in some excel spreadsheet. Ask them if they even have a place to live now ?


Very good. So YOU have the numbers of climate refugees. Good. Put it out there. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Sir lastnail wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:41pm:
Or perhaps you think it is caused by Aliens focusing some sort of undetectable invisible ray beam on the planet


see above


Are you going to pay or compensate those climate refugees or are you going to keep denying that you had anything to do with it as usual ? Maybe it's cheaper to lock them up on Manus island and throw away the key :(

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Sir lastnail on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:52pm
Here you go. You might need to reduce your profit forecasts on your dirty coal exports after all of the payouts :(

https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/climate-news/112893031/increased-sea-level-predictions-could-result-in-displacement-of-187m-people-study-finds


Quote:
Increased sea level predictions could result in displacement of 187m people, study finds

Previous predictions for rising sea levels might be incorrect, according to a new study.

The study - published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences - found sea levels may rise by 2 metres by 2100.

These findings contradict the original prediction by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's Fifth Assessment Report in 2013, which suggested there will be a rise of just under a metre by the year 2100.

"For 2100, the ice sheet contribution is very likely in the range of 7-178cm but once you add in the glaciers and ice caps outside the ice sheets and thermal expansion of the seas, you tip well over two metres," lead author Professor Jonathan Bamber told the BBC.

READ MORE:
* Greenland's ice is melting even faster than scientists thought
* Hothouse Earth, here we come
* An alarming 10 per cent of Antarctica's coastal glaciers are in retreat, scientists find
* Biblical flood could be 'more than just a fairy tale'. Is another coming?
* Sea level rise could swamp some New Zealand cities

Researchers found these increased levels could result in the loss of 1.79 million squared km of land, and amass to 187 million people displaced.

To put those figures into perspective, the land mass is larger than Libya, which covers 1.76m squared km, and those displaced would be equivalent to entire populations of New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the United Kingdom and Kenya.

Authors of the study explained a sea level rise of this magnitude "would clearly have profound consequences for humanity".

Using a structured expert judgement (SEJ) model, 22 scientists from the US and UK collated their expert knowledge to estimate various uncertainties surrounding sea level rise.

They measured accumulation, surface run off and discharge from the Greenland, West Antarctic and East Antarctic ice sheets to estimate the new figures.

Researchers estimated, if temperatures were to increase only by 2 degrees Celsius, there would be a 26cm sea level rise by 2100 and a maximum of 81cm. However, if temperatures were to rise by 5C and emissions were to go unchecked, could rise by 51cm with a maximum of 178cm.

"We find it plausible that SLR [sea level rise] could exceed 2m by 2100 for our high-temperature scenario," the authors wrote.

Looking further into the future, they also predicted the maximum rise in 2200 with a 5C temperature increase could be 7.5m due to the "instabilities coming into play in both West and East Antarctica".

The study's authors explained that since the 2013 predictions were released, "opinion has shifted toward a stronger ice sheet response and a larger credible range, for a given temperature change, than was considered plausible by the experts 6 years ago".




Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by April_Flowers on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:54pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:48pm:

lee wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:46pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:41pm:
Why don't you ask those people if they can still live where they have been living for decades instead of trying to obfuscate it in some excel spreadsheet. Ask them if they even have a place to live now ?


Very good. So YOU have the numbers of climate refugees. Good. Put it out there. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Sir lastnail wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:41pm:
Or perhaps you think it is caused by Aliens focusing some sort of undetectable invisible ray beam on the planet


see above


Are you going to pay or compensate those climate refugees or are you going to keep denying that you had anything to do with it as usual ? Maybe it's cheaper to lock them up on Manus island and throw away the key :(


Have you been there, Nail?  Perhaps you should volunteer to do whatever there, you could earn more than the Dole.  ;)

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:58pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:52pm:
Researchers found these increased levels could result in the loss of 1.79 million squared km of land, and amass to 187 million people displaced.



oh yes. COULD. So no climate refugees yet. Got it.

And all this on the back of that RCP8.5 worst case scenario that they spout as "business as usual". ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by lee on May 23rd, 2019 at 5:01pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 23rd, 2019 at 4:48pm:


Which climate refugee is that? Not the ones from Tuvalu. NZ said there is no evidence.

"Two families from Tuvalu have had their cases to be recognised as climate change refugees rejected."

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/342280/climate-change-refugee-cases-rejected

But perhaps you have more up to date figures. ;)

Title: Re: LNP Climate change causes Islands to disappear
Post by Frank on May 23rd, 2019 at 6:24pm

Sir lastnail wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 2:41pm:
They are disappearing because sea level is rising which is verifiable and beyond refute. Why are LNP supporters as thick as two planks ?

You guys are mindless idiots.



Sea levels rose and made Tasmania an island. Made Australia an island, for that matter. Thousands of years before the Industrial Revolution.


Bloody LNP / ScoMo climate denial, no doubt.



You bloody idiots.


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