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Title: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by Laugh till you cry on May 7th, 2019 at 5:47pm
It's already too late. The tipping point is passed.
The punters have accepted they are domed and are disguising their angst with diversions to homosexuality and fornication. It is arguable that Donald Trump was manufactured by the 'deep state' to divert the attention of the public from the end of days. Perhaps Trump will push the button and end it all. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/nov/14/earth-death-spiral-radical-action-climate-breakdown Quote:
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Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by Ajax on May 7th, 2019 at 6:01pm
In accordance with the IPCC and associates computer models that in 1990 predicted we would reach a warming by the end of this century of 2.7°C, we should be at a certain plateau by now 28 years later.
Guess what we have not reached the heights that the computer models back in 1990 predicted. Therefore if the theory doesn't match the observations in nature, then the theory is wrong. It doesn't matter who made the guess/ theory if it doesn't match observations in nature its WRONG.......!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5v8habYTfHU Empirical data observed in the last 28 since 1990 predicts a warming of 1°C by end of this century. So there is nothing to worry about, we don't have to send billions of tax payers money to the UN and the stock market. The temperature increase will only be 1°C by end of this century as observations tell us. Now how about arcing up about the destruction of our rainforests something real.............. :P |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 7th, 2019 at 6:46pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 5:47pm:
Did she give a time frame on this extinction? What was the source? Vanity Fair? Gamers Monthly? Ocasio-Cortez? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Laugh till you cry wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 5:47pm:
or not. ;) Laugh till you cry wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 5:47pm:
But we just had someone tell us that this So now,according to some, about 1C of warming in 150 odd years is now faster than 10C in 10 years? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 7th, 2019 at 7:16pm
But perhaps it is true.
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https://babylonbee.com/news/update-we-now-have-only-12-seconds-left-until-climate-change-destroys-the-planet?fbclid=IwAR21qm7Jd3GIUgVjDdBF4OKsXgmgQNsd3hMXG2qb6Ey6eRe1buImFqh_bNo |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by Pho Huc on May 16th, 2019 at 5:11pm lee wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 6:46pm:
Sigh. The ten degree warming event was geographically limited(greenland and some parts of europe) Other parts of the world recorded large temperature drops at the same time. That's why you can't point at a geographically isolated event and draw conclusions about GLOBAL temperatures. Apples with Apples please. The global temperatures have never increased at anything like the speed we are currently observing. How many times do I have to explain this to you? |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 16th, 2019 at 5:16pm Pho Huc wrote on May 16th, 2019 at 5:11pm:
Maybe when you can explain gloal temperatures back ore than 1950. |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by Frank on May 16th, 2019 at 7:14pm
Despite hundreds of billions of dollars of expenditure during the past few decades, it still has not been shown that human emissions of carbon dioxide drive global warming. Yet wind and solar industrial complexes pepper the landscape allegedly to reduce carbon dioxide emissions.
They run on subsidies, not the wind or the sun. Wind and solar are transfering money from the poor to the rich, not saving the environment. These subsidies, paid by the long-suffering consumer and employer, add to emissions because coal-fired electricity needs to be on standby for when there is no wind or sunshine. The amount of energy used to construct solar and wind facilities is greater than they produce in their working lives. The amount of carbon dioxide released during construction and maintenance is far more than is saved. Renewables such as wind turbines are environmentally disastrous because they pollute a huge land area, slice and dice birds and bats, kill insects that are bird food, create health problems for humans who live within kilometres of them, leave toxins around the turbine site and despoil the landscape. Union superannuation funds have invested massively in renewable energy. Labor’s promise of 50 per cent renewables will cost electricity consumers hundreds of billions but will benefit the unions. As soon as renewables were introduced into the grid, electricity prices increased and delivery became unreliable. Increased electricity costs have created unemployment, and many pensioners and the poor cannot afford electricity. An increase in renewables will make matters worse. Does Shorten’s energy policy consider those who lose jobs and have the power cut off in his race to achieve 50 per cent renewables to fill the pockets of Labor union mates? And what about the scams siphoning off tens of billions that slosh around the world as carbon credits, carbon trading and renewable energy certificates? Rather than take this money from the poor via higher electricity prices, it would be better spent at home. To smugly claim that valid questions about energy costs are dumb or deceitful is a loud warning bell. Shorten refuses to tell us how he will spend our money or to give any detail on energy systems that are proven failures. It is our money and, if he will not give us the financial details, we should be very scared of his shiftiness. I have never written a blank cheque for a used car. Why should I now? https://www.theaustralian.com.au/commentary/the-truth-of-climate-change-is-revealed-at-school/news-story/31d9ab27de3ec577217a590476bf16c1 |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 17th, 2019 at 7:30am Frank wrote on May 16th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
just thinking of weather or not carbon is changing the climate ignores the biggest problem of Fossil Fuels and that is they poison us and where we live... renewable energy definitely stops fossil fuels from being burnt and their poisons being put in the air and land. If you need proof just look at the air quality in any big city...... ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 17th, 2019 at 12:29pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 17th, 2019 at 7:30am:
So they don't burn fossil fuels when the sun don't shine and the wind don't blow? You mean they don't run those generators as backup even when the sun do shine and the wind do blow? |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by Laugh till you cry on May 17th, 2019 at 1:29pm lee wrote on May 17th, 2019 at 12:29pm:
lee evidently hasn't heard of batteries. lee has earned another shilling fee from his masters. |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by Bobby. on May 17th, 2019 at 1:40pm
Don't worry people.
Thorium power will be here soon and will be a revolution. We may have so much cheap energy that we can reverse any climate change. At least we can stop burning stinking coal. |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 17th, 2019 at 1:47pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 17th, 2019 at 1:29pm:
You mean like that SA battery that in case of catastrophic collapse would power SA for about 3 minutes? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by Frank on May 17th, 2019 at 7:32pm Laugh till you cry wrote on May 17th, 2019 at 1:29pm:
How much energy does it take to make batteries and where does that energy come from? In any case, CO2 is the gas that made life possible on Earth and is the gas, with oxygen and hydrogen, that maintains life on Earth. No plant life without CO2. The 'war' on CoE to is like the war on air and water. Idiotic. In the 70s it was all about global cooling. Now it's global warming and then simply climate change - whatever happens is 'bad'. And its the eyewash from the the people who want to change EVERYTHING about human societies - as long us the one dynamic thing in the world can be arrested and kept is aspic. You see and hear someone utter the words 'climate action' you see and hear a complete idiot. An heir to the various failed 'progressive' hurrah henries over the last 200 years.i |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 18th, 2019 at 6:41am Frank wrote on May 17th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
Well more and more of the energy for making batteries is from renewable power... but is you think CO2 is a good thing what does it matter ? What about all the other toxins that come from burning fossil fuels, plus the left overs like ash.... fair enough CO2 might be good but you cant ignore the other poisons . Or is smog, black lung ,Asthma just good for us as well ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 18th, 2019 at 12:58pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 18th, 2019 at 6:41am:
You mean like refining cobalt, lithium. the plastic case? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D DonDeeHippy wrote on May 18th, 2019 at 6:41am:
You mean the ash they use in making aerated concrete? ;) DonDeeHippy wrote on May 18th, 2019 at 6:41am:
You do realise that people are bipedal. They can move? They have free will. They can choose not to work in mines. |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by Frank on May 18th, 2019 at 5:10pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 18th, 2019 at 6:41am:
When did you last see smog in Australia or Europe or North America? 1964? China, India, Egypt, Indonesia? Last week? |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 19th, 2019 at 7:16am Frank wrote on May 18th, 2019 at 5:10pm:
why does it matter where the poisoning is happening, I know for my health I would rather live in the bush than in the middle of a city and especially if I have respiratory problems.... Fossil Fuels being burnt poison us and our land it has to stop. Global warming and CO2 is just a distraction. ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 19th, 2019 at 1:04pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 19th, 2019 at 7:16am:
Does burning pre-fossil fuel poison us and our land? |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 19th, 2019 at 1:11pm lee wrote on May 19th, 2019 at 1:04pm:
if you mean burning wood... well yes and it's a major health hazard in developing countries when used in enclosed spaces for cooking and heating... i'm not really sure what your asking . Still asking that question does distract from the original statement ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 19th, 2019 at 2:35pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 19th, 2019 at 1:11pm:
Yes burning wood, even in some unenlightened place like Australia. ;) DonDeeHippy wrote on May 19th, 2019 at 1:11pm:
Actually in poor countries, except tropical forest areas because it grow back so quickly, they use dung fires, usually because the wood is already gone. And that is really deadly. |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 20th, 2019 at 7:44am lee wrote on May 19th, 2019 at 2:35pm:
In Kenya they are giving the poorer people solar panels and LED lights for the same daily price as they used to pay for a pint of Kerosene for light for the night. There is a lot happening in Africa where people are getting power from solar panels off the grid. AS panels get cheaper and peoples lives get better they can add more power. All his still doesn't change the fact that when you burn Fossil fuels you poison us and our land though, weather of not it changes the climate doesn't really matter. ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 20th, 2019 at 3:09pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 20th, 2019 at 7:44am:
Does it provide enough electricity to cook their tea? You don't seem to mention that. Or do they still use dung fires for their food and warmth? |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 21st, 2019 at 7:00am lee wrote on May 20th, 2019 at 3:09pm:
Well as you know heating takes a lot of energy so i doubt it, isn't there a Australian made invention for cooking they are distributing around Africa to help clean up the air when cooking ? Then there are the solar convection stoves, only good during the day and sunny but very cheep. Like with everything life goes on till a better way comes along...… it's a shame you seem so worried and focused on the old ways. As renewable energy gets better it will help more people... All his still doesn't change the fact that when you burn Fossil fuels you poison us and our land though, weather of not it changes the climate doesn't really matter. ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 21st, 2019 at 9:12pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 7:00am:
I have read about them. Good for cooking tea it says. To DRINK. "“Fluctuations in sunshine can hinder cooking using the solar (system) but with the basket we nowadays prepare tea during the day and can drink it after sunset,” said Peter Wanga, whose family has been using a solar cooking system since last year." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kenya-solar-cooking/kenya-learns-to-cook-with-solar-power-even-when-the-sun-doesnt-shine-idUSKBN17C2KG DonDeeHippy wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 7:00am:
How do fossil fuels poison us and the land? Aren't those poisons in the fossil fuel to start with? In the very earth? |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by UnSubRocky on May 25th, 2019 at 2:48am
Invest in televisions for the third world. Whilst they are still hungry and poor, they will at least be distracted by tv shows. Then they won't breed as much.
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Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 25th, 2019 at 8:23am lee wrote on May 21st, 2019 at 9:12pm:
yes we dig up Fossil Fuels from the earth then burn them and they poison us and our land, just look at any big city and the air quality.... Leave them in the ground or at least don't just burn them for heat, they are very good building blocks for many products and should be managed as such... ;) Do you think Uranium ore is perfectly safe to put everywhere because it's from the ground...... How about Asbestos, it's just from the ground. So is Lead Every pollutant in the world has to have a natural source Lee, so your saying because of that we should just keep using them in our everyday life ? ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 25th, 2019 at 8:31am UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 2:48am:
What if they only watch porn ? ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 25th, 2019 at 2:01pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 8:23am:
I guess Sydney is not big. When I have been there I have seen the "pollution" of the Blue Mountains. DonDeeHippy wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 8:23am:
Nothing is perfectly safe petal. You can drown in a few teaspoons of water. It is certainly safe. Provided you don't use the International Atomic Energy Agency figures because they are modelled, not actual deaths. DonDeeHippy wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 8:23am:
Jumping the shark again. Poor petal. ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by UnSubRocky on May 25th, 2019 at 2:36pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 8:31am:
They will probably masturbate more often and breed less. |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 25th, 2019 at 5:27pm lee wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_proper_by_population no by worlds standards Sydney isn't big and you live in WA don't you, have you lived in Sydney ? Ohh that's right you love using the blue mountains as a reason why we shouldn't care about pollution from burning Fossil fuels.....;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 25th, 2019 at 5:30pm UnSubRocky wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 2:36pm:
Hehe every time I've watched porn with my partner we did more than masturbate. ;D |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 25th, 2019 at 8:03pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 5:27pm:
So then no pollution in Australian cities. got it. ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 26th, 2019 at 7:45am lee wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 8:03pm:
If you need to believe that to go to bed at night Lee I wont stop you ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by PZ547 on May 26th, 2019 at 8:13am
Earth in death spiral
give money immediately and lots of it, because a select few will halt the death spiral if you pay and pay and pay meanwhile, fill it to the hilt with a few billion more pointless meat on the hoofers. That's what a deathly spiralling world needs -- more useless eaters to pay more and more and more |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by DonDeeHippy on May 26th, 2019 at 8:23am PZ547 wrote on May 26th, 2019 at 8:13am:
ok, then what is your solution ? ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by lee on May 26th, 2019 at 12:44pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 26th, 2019 at 7:45am:
You are the one said it was in BIG cities and that Sydney wasn't a BIG city. ;) |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by UnSubRocky on May 26th, 2019 at 3:19pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 25th, 2019 at 5:30pm:
Anyway, why would they show porn on television? |
Title: Re: Climate change: The Earth is in a death spiral Post by Frank on May 26th, 2019 at 4:11pm DonDeeHippy wrote on May 26th, 2019 at 8:23am:
What is the problem to which you are seeking a solution? |
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