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Title: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 17th, 2019 at 2:01pm
I refuse to contribute to the incipient delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens.
I have been beseeched, yes darlings, beseeched by an Ozpolitic denizen, who shall remain nameless, to publish the anti-Muslim hate manifesto of Brenton Tarrant. This poor chap is too frightened to Google it himself in case he gets caught in the anti-terror nets. I have probably saved many lives. Please don't thank me. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 17th, 2019 at 9:49pm
Don't be ridiculous - adults can make up their own minds - some users here though... hmmm ...
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Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by .JaSin. on Mar 17th, 2019 at 9:53pm
Has LTYC taken the Venomous Snake Quiz lately?
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Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by issuevoter on Mar 17th, 2019 at 9:54pm
Laughing Boy doesn't hate anyone. In fact, he's a regular flower-child.
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Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 17th, 2019 at 11:39pm
I have to confess the Ozpolitic extremist delinquent beseeching me to post the Tarrant manifesto was AiA.
The blighter was teetering on the edge of the abyss and all he needed was a nudge. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by minarchist on Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:20am
https://nex24.news/2019/03/the-great-replacement-by-brenton-tarrant/
If you can't be bothered reading any part of his Manifesto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_FSZYTGyBE |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:24am
Well - like that Muslims 'retired' jihadi on Q & A - I advocated then that his views should be permitted a public airing and the people make up their own minds rather than he be silenced - same applies here.
Let the people see and read what that clown said, and let them decide for themselves. I'll guarantee a survey would show overwhelmingly that the Australian people reject that kind of insanity. Let's air the full thing on public TV, and run a scratch poll..... |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:30am Oh really? |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:53am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:24am:
Grappler doesn't like competition from other clowns. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 18th, 2019 at 2:33pm
BTW - a million Australians signed a petition against Fraser Anning's comments..... just goes to show, regardless of the factual content of his statements and the emotive nature of the response - that Australians are very much NOT 'Islamophobes'... and certainly do not support violence against innocents.
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Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 18th, 2019 at 2:34pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:53am:
Ridiculous and personal comment struck through by OVC. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 18th, 2019 at 4:23pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 2:33pm:
You mean 4% of Australians are not Islamophobes excluding Grappler and his Ozpolitic right-wing extremist ilk. Islamophobes number far more than 4% of the Australian population and far outnumber those who are not Islamophobes. The government, the police, the military all demonize Muslims. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by John Smith on Mar 18th, 2019 at 4:31pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 2:33pm:
who ever said they were? Most aussies are pretty decent folks. It's just a few on here and out in the real world that struggle to get past their hatred. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Valkie on Mar 18th, 2019 at 4:38pm John Smith wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 4:31pm:
That's right And the number of radicalized Australians is microscopic compared to the 25% of muzzos. And the number of Aussies who woukd follow the nutcase in NZ is infinitely smaller than the 25% of muzzos who would kill at the first opportunity. Aussies have always openly spoken their minds Now with all the PC gone mad, they have to just shut up and let the more vocal muzzos , apologists, sycophant and islamophiles have their way screaming from the rooftops. Behead, they scream Murder, they advise. Destroy, they proclaim And these are the moderate ones. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Aussie on Mar 18th, 2019 at 4:49pm Valkie wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 4:38pm:
Which Muslim Members here at OzPol do that? |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by John Smith on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:21pm Valkie wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 4:38pm:
you should hit yourself over the head with that staff of yours .... |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:29pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 4:23pm:
Ridiculous and personal comment struck through by OVC ... perhaps it is time for Freediver to Ethically Cleanse the board here of those who perpetually attack others and offers insults to others as a substitute for effective argument and discussion |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:30pm John Smith wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:21pm:
Barf Til You Die doesn't have a staff... can't get it up... |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:41pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:29pm:
Those are exactly the tactics Freediver uses in his posts. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by John Smith on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:45pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:30pm:
that probably explains why i didn't suggest it to LTYC ::) |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 18th, 2019 at 6:34pm
Does this mean I can't put you and Herr Schmidt down for a little Ethic Cleansing?
You're not the half-Italian Smith I know on the Gold Coast are you, Smith? Jeez - I hope not... if so - is yer missus still giving you curry - I back you up, you know... |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by mothra on Mar 18th, 2019 at 6:37pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:30pm:
Struckthrough for we must practice what we preach. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 18th, 2019 at 6:37pm John Smith wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:45pm:
The order of your post suggested you did.... how could I resist? LTYC The Great Slagger deserves everything he gets... even Ethic Cleansing when Freediver begins the jihad.... there must be no Ethic Cleansing but for the keffir.... they are fair game... This is a great opportunity to rid the board of the losers who constantly hate on others and slag others relentlessly... and then whine when they cop it back. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 18th, 2019 at 6:39pm mothra wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
A fair decree absolute from the Commission must not be struck through.... are you interviewing for recruitment to 'Safe Spaces OzPolitics' - a brave new world free from gad-flies who insist on slagging?? :o |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Karnal on Mar 18th, 2019 at 6:47pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
FD has restricted himself to 3 tactics, Laugh. Porkies, tap dancing and spineless evasion. Freeeeedom, innit. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by .JaSin. on Mar 18th, 2019 at 6:54pm Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 6:47pm:
You're just not quick enough to catch him Karnal. Spatchcock did on her first go. She has her sights in over-taking Gandalf soon. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Karnal on Mar 18th, 2019 at 8:01pm
Spatchcock's the Mechanic, JaSin.
If the Mechanic seems quick, it's only because flares have accidentally come back into fashion. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Chester on Mar 18th, 2019 at 8:06pm Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 8:01pm:
Ohhh did somebody say cock? |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 18th, 2019 at 8:07pm Chester wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
Probably Bobby. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by John Smith on Mar 18th, 2019 at 8:09pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 6:37pm:
and yet the name of the poster I replied to suggests I didn't :D :D |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 19th, 2019 at 11:54am |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 19th, 2019 at 11:57am John Smith wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:21pm:
Valkie can break concrete slabs with his head. If Valkie fell out of his tree onto his head the only damage Valkie would suffer would be to his pride, while planet earth would suffer from a conical and comical indentation. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Karnal on Mar 19th, 2019 at 12:18pm Chester wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 8:06pm:
Miam miam. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 19th, 2019 at 4:18pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 11:57am:
OVC strikes again |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 19th, 2019 at 4:19pm Mattyfisk wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 12:18pm:
No - he said 'coke soaker'... not the real thing... |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Laugh till you cry on Mar 19th, 2019 at 4:27pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 4:18pm:
OVC = granny banger? |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 1:43pm
What an excellent piece this is:
Toxic tribalism and the sad, broken state of Australian conversation By Matthew Knott March 22, 2019 — 11.30 am Last August, at a Donald Trump rally, I got talking to a man named Fred. It was still a few hours until the President was due to appear on stage and we were queuing for hot dogs. Fred was the archetypal Trump voter: a white, middle-aged, blue collar worker who had voted Democratic his whole life. But he felt the party had taken voters like him for granted. As we spoke in rural Pennsylvania, other people joined the conversation. The Australian conversation is breaking down and could have dangerous consequences. CREDIT:MATT DAVIDSON As we continued talking, the temperature of the discussion grew increasingly heated. What struck me most wasn't how much Fred and the others admired Trump but how much they hated Democrats. The conversation ended with one man saying he wished California, a Democratic-voting state of 40 million residents, would break away and fall into the sea. Fred countered that he looked forward to the day a massive earthquake hit the state. I've often reflected on the conversation in the months since, stunned by how someone could so blithely wish death upon millions of his fellow citizens. And I've marvelled at how the discussion veered so quickly from the unremarkable to the extreme. There's no reason to believe things are as bad in Australia. We are not as fundamentally divided on issues such as abortion or gun ownership. Our big cities are more politically diverse. Compulsory voting nudges our politics to the centre, and we have well-funded public broadcasters that are required to strive for impartiality. But it would be naive to believe that we are inoculated from the polarisation that defines modern day America. Last Friday, when the news broke that a gunman had killed dozens of people praying in mosques in New Zealand, ABC presenter Patricia Karvelas logged on to Twitter. In one of her tweets, she praised Scott Morrison for making an "incredibly strong" statement at a press conference after the massacre. "He rightly described it as a right-wing terror attack," she wrote. "That is what this is." Karvelas was impressed Morrison had highlighted the ideological nature of the attack. His response was altogether different from Trump's insistance, following the deadly 2017 white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, that there "were very fine people on both sides" of the protest. She was instantly hit by a deluge of criticism. "It was just one tweet about a press conference, not a dissertation about everything the Prime Minister has said about Muslims in his career. Yet it became this pile on," Karvelas says. "People were accusing me of excusing his alleged past Islamophobia. A former ABC employee told me I should get out of journalism." Ian Mannix, the former manager of ABC local radio Victoria, tweeted: "She fails to put it in context the years of hatred and racism against other people. If you can’t get this right, get out of the media." Karvelas' conclusion: "We have lost the ability to be civil." Craig Emerson, a senior cabinet minister in the Rudd-Gillard years, also praised Morrison's response - as well as the statements by Jacinda Ardern and Bill Shorten. At an intensely upsetting and anxious moment for the Muslim community, Emerson believed all three leaders provided the strength and reassurance the moment demanded. "I was just giving credit where it was due," he says. "I copped an avalanche of criticism." The fact Emerson himself had taken a strong stand against white supremacy didn't matter. (Emerson quit as a Sky News commentator last year when the network hosted a soft interview with far-right leader Blair Cottrell.) Like Karvelas, Emerson isn't precious and doesn't want pity. He doesn't even believe tribalism is inherently wrong or dangerous - political parties, after all, are tribes and so are our favourite sporting teams. What concerns him is "mindless tribalism", the notion that you should never break with orthodoxy or give credit to a political opponent. "This was just one isolated incident, but I do think it shows how hyper-partisan and tribal we have become," Karvelas says. "I think most people, who are busy getting on with their lives, still value civility. But there is a noisy minority that floods the internet and skews the debate." A similar point was made by Morrison in a speech this week when he said he was worried Australians are demonstrating "less understanding and grace towards others that we do not even know, making the worst possible assumptions about them and their motives, simply because we disagree with them". "If we allow a culture of 'us and them', of tribalism, to take hold ... we will lose what makes diversity work in Australia," he said. The extreme responses following Christchurch were not limited to anonymous trolls with a handful of followers. "Twitter, all too often, rewards the snarky putdown, the dogmatic over-reach, the bad-faith misinterpretation of someone's argument. Empathy won't get you much traction, and neither will nuance." Only hours after the attack, former independent MP Tony Windsor said Morrison's "dog-whistling" had "borne fruit ... not here but on a softer target". continued ... |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Captain Nemo on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 1:43pm
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Marcia Langton, the chairwoman of Australian Indigenous Studies at the University of Melbourne, went further, saying the Prime Minister and most of his government were "complicit in mass murder". Across the Atlantic, it wasn't only Trump, who famously called for a complete and total ban on Muslims entering the US, facing similar claims. At a vigil in New York, Chelsea Clinton was confronted by activists who said she had helped cause the massacre. "The 49 people died because of the rhetoric you put out there," one protester told her. How so? Clinton had recently criticised Muslim congresswoman Ilhan Omar for remarks that she, and many others, believe perpetuated anti-Semitic tropes. Meanwhile, Osman Faruqi, an ABC editor and former Greens staffer, was targeted for tweeting that Christchurch was "one of the worst massacres ever to occur in the west, and one of the worst massacres targeting a minority group since WW2". Among those criticising him were prominent News Corporation columnists such as Rita Panahi. This came just weeks after the ABC aired a radio documentary detailing how Faruqi had been trolled relentlessly by right-wing Twitter users and had his phone number published online. Faruqi has now deactivated his Twitter account. Each social media platform incentivises certain behaviours, often those we would not want to encourage. Selfies tend to receive more love on Instagram than any other posts. YouTube's algorithms have pushed users towards increasingly extreme content: you start on a straightforward documentary about September 11 and, a few videos later, you're mired in conspiracy theories. Twitter, all too often, rewards the snarky putdown, the dogmatic over-reach, the bad-faith misinterpretation of someone's argument. Empathy won't get you much traction, and neither will nuance. It's common to see Twitter users delight in seeing others get "ratioed" - that is, when someone's post attracts more negative comments than it does likes or retweets. The desire for outrage can lead people to attack those who, in fact, they agree with. Journalist Annabel Crabb experienced this when Twitter users mistakenly believed she had criticised the 16-year old who threw an egg at Fraser Anning. Twitter is the natural home of "cancel culture", which describes the modern trend to try to extinguish people or cultural products we disagree with. It's not only notorious sexual abusers such as Michael Jackson or Harvey Weinstein who get caught in the net. Last month US author Kosoko Jackson, who is black and gay, withdrew his forthcoming novel, A Place for Wolves, from publication. Before his book had even hit shelves, Jackson had attracted a backlash for making two non-Muslim Americans the main characters in a story about the Kosovo War. New York Times columnist Jennifer Senior argued that Jackson's book "should have failed or succeeded in the marketplace of ideas. But it was never given the chance. The mob got to it first." After the Christchurch attacks, comedian Adam Hills was pilloried when he tweeted that he was "not OK" with Anning being egged as it would embolden his supporters. One user's succinct response: "Adam Hills is cancelled." It's all too easy for members of the mainstream media to focus solely on social media's role promoting division. We know that the stories that perform best online are often those that confirm readers' prejudices rather than challenge them. In an age of fierce competition for reader attention, it's tempting to inflame rather than inform. The future to fear, again, is in the US. Fox News, playing to its conservative audience, acts as a mouthpiece for the Trump administration while progressive MSNBC suggests the country is constantly on the verge of crisis. The consequence is that political debate gets pushed to the outermost fringes, reducing the chance of consensus and compromise. A common finding of psychological research is that, when we surround ourselves with like-minded people, our existing beliefs aren't simply reinforced. Our views actually become more extreme - as I saw with Fred and his fellow Trump supporters at the rally in Pennsylvania. It helps explain why, according to a study published this year, 20 per cent of Democrats (12.6 million people) and 16 per cent of Republicans believe the US would be better off if large numbers of the opposition party died. Unlike the US, Australia's political discourse hasn't yet been carried away on a wave of toxic tribalism. But we're swimming in the same waters and it's worth thinking whether we want to venture any further from the shore. www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/toxic-tribalism-and-the-sad-broken-state-of-australian-conversation-20190321-p5160h.html#comments |
Title: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Laugh till you cry on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:49am
Where is the love?
Is the Ozpolitic love exemplified by the two Ozpolitic granny-bangers? Could these granny-bangers be converted to conversion units for the Ozpolitic hate propagators? |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by JollyGreenGiant on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:55am Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:49am:
You are looking for love in all the wrong place Laughboy. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Laugh till you cry on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:57am JollyGreenGiant wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:55am:
Your trousers? |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by JollyGreenGiant on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:58am Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:57am:
Stay out of my trousers and get thee back on your knees in the public toilet. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Karnal on Apr 14th, 2019 at 12:07pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:49am:
Re-education, Laugh, it's the only way. They need to be locked into a thread with FD. That could work. What sound does a jellyfish make? |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Karnal on Apr 14th, 2019 at 12:09pm JollyGreenGiant wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:58am:
Now now, Jolly, we all make use of the amenities here, dear. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Karnal on Apr 14th, 2019 at 12:10pm
For a good time call Jolly...
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Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Gnads on Apr 14th, 2019 at 12:12pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 2:01pm:
Please feel free to take a hike ... at your earliest convenience. |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 14th, 2019 at 2:06pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:57am:
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the OzPol water....... ::) |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 14th, 2019 at 2:10pm Gnads wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 12:12pm:
Freedom of speech, innit? Any idiot is entitled to absolute freedom of speech, but Israel must remain silent lest he be censured... anyone with a differing view from the loud-mouthed and violently stated minority groups must suffer censure so as to create 'equality' ........ What the hell is wrong with our governments these days? Too much smoking that social science wacky weed..... Word for today:- 'censoured' (adv) - the fact of having been censured by lemon-sucking parasites with no sense of humour or intellect |
Title: Re: Hate propaganda: Delinquency of Ozpolitic denizens Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 14th, 2019 at 2:12pm
Methinks some here are mistaken... a person doesn't need to hate the enemies of his blood in order to destroy them... any more than one hates vermin.......
Inevitable, innit? (that'll give 'em something to chew on, Igor)... |
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