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Message started by issuevoter on Mar 15th, 2019 at 10:09am

Title: The Timber Creek Decision.
Post by issuevoter on Mar 15th, 2019 at 10:09am
I am surprised that such a wide-ranging High Court decision has not created any interest on Ozpol. Here is a very concise article on the decision, which will raise more questions than it answers. The article is well written reporting, but as usual, the journalist cannot resist inserting his personal opinion.
The article cites confidential agreements between native title holders and mining companies. That much is clear, but he has to interpret this a a matter of hiding the facts from the public. Its a loaded statement to imply deception on the part of the miners or the natives. As he is a Guardian journalist, we know which one he believes is doing the deception.

His concluding paragraph is typical of the Left Wing/ Progressive assurance that attendant social problems (true, respectful and final settlement) will now come to pass. Dream on.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/14/let-timber-creek-be-a-step-towards-true-and-respectful-reconciliation

Title: Re: The Timber Creek Decision.
Post by xeej on Mar 15th, 2019 at 10:42am

issuevoter wrote on Mar 15th, 2019 at 10:09am:
I am surprised that such a wide-ranging High Court decision has not created any interest on Ozpol. Here is a very concise article on the decision, which will raise more questions than it answers. The article is well written reporting, but as usual, the journalist cannot resist inserting his personal opinion.
The article cites confidential agreements between native title holders and mining companies. That much is clear, but he has to interpret this a a matter of hiding the facts from the public. Its a loaded statement to imply deception on the part of the miners or the natives. As he is a Guardian journalist, we know which one he believes is doing the deception.

His concluding paragraph is typical of the Left Wing/ Progressive assurance that attendant social problems (true, respectful and final settlement) will now come to pass. Dream on.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/14/let-timber-creek-be-a-step-towards-true-and-respectful-reconciliation

The pastoralists had better have deep pockets.

The Aboriginals stand to reap billions from this decision.

Title: Re: The Timber Creek Decision.
Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 15th, 2019 at 3:11pm
Be interesting to see how this plays out...

Title: Re: The Timber Creek Decision.
Post by cods on Mar 15th, 2019 at 3:34pm
[urlhttps://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/nov/30/it-is-not-about-money-australias-largest-native-title-settlement-challenged-again][/url]



this is just a small item in that report..


The agreement covers 200,000 sq km stretching from north of Perth down to Albany on the south coast, and including areas of coastline and sea.

The ILUA extinguishes native title over the settlement area in exchange for a benefits package which includes depositing $50m a year over 12 years into the Noongar Boodja perpetual trust and transferring 320,000 hectares of freehold and leasehold land to that trust, to be developed and used by the Noongar community.

“It is not about money, it is about the land, and saving our land from mining,” Smith said. “If this deal goes through, the south-west will not be worth living in.”




I dont see anything reconciliatory about that at all... :(


Title: Re: The Timber Creek Decision.
Post by issuevoter on Mar 15th, 2019 at 3:37pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 15th, 2019 at 3:11pm:
Be interesting to see how this plays out...


The article cites two compensations: economic loss, and cultural loss. Both are facts, but how these will be quantified is anyone's guess. If indigenous individuals qualified for some kind of payment, will that require proof of ethnicity? Or, if huge funds are made available for social programs, how are they to be administered? Graft and corruption are almost certain. That's what happens to big wads of money.

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