Posted on behalf of one unfairly banned from here. FD discover your missing backbone soon!


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The truth about men and murder A ground-breaking new report on murder in Australia has provided overwhelming proof of the gendered nature of domestic and family violence. The report shows that men commit more than 80 per cent of murders between couples who have a history of domestic violence. The overwhelming majority of those men had a history of abusing the women they ultimately killed. In the 20 per cent of murders committed by women, over two-thirds were women killing men who had been abusing them. Of the 152 murders examined by the report only two cases were found where a woman killed a man she had a history of abusing. Fiona McCormack, CEO of Domestic Violence Victoria, says it is vital to recognise how gender is a factor in family violence. “The fact that family violence is primarily perpetrated by men and overwhelmingly experienced by women and children can be a deeply uncomfortable truth, but unless we have the courage as a community to look at why it is that some men choose to perpetrate violence, we’ll never be able to fix this,’’ she said. Until now, the Personal Safety Survey has been the primary data on violence in Australia. It is a detailed data set, but it relies on people’s memories and perceptions of the violence they have experienced and what they are willing or able to share with people conducting the survey. These responses are extrapolated on robust statistical principles and provide a very good indication of how Australians experience violence, but it is not verifiable fact. The report released last week by the Australian Domestic and Family Violence Death Review Network is not based on statistics. It’s a detailed examination of 152 intimate partner murders between 2010 and 2014 where there was credible information showing a history of violence prior to the murder. Information was collected from the Coroner’s Courts, police investigations, court proceedings and inquest findings. The results prove that domestic violence, in its most dangerous form, is overwhelmingly committed by men against women. More than one-third of the murders committed by men occurred after the relationship had ended and nearly a quarter of the women killed had Domestic Violence Orders against their killer at the time of the murder. At least 107 children lost a parent to murder, and alcohol was involved in around half of all the killings. This is the first report from the Death Review Network. As its work continues it will expand the data to include intimate-partner murders where there was no previous history of violence as well as murders between other types of family relationships. Experts believe this will expand understanding of domestic violence homicides and how gender impacts lives lost to family violence. Australia has about one murder per 100,000 people each year. This is compared to America, at around five per 100,000 and South Africa, at 34 per 100,000.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-truth-about-men-and-murder-20180602-p4zj3g.html

How many of the women involved had a history of abusing the men involved?

I'm curious...... your report said two - but how realistic is that?

The basic outcome from multiple studies is that women commence 60% of the violence but suffer 60% of the injuries as a result.... if you go around hitting on a man he will react... it's in his nature.... if you then escalate that by having the 'law' slap him around - you are asking for trouble.

How then do you apportion blame?  You need to start with both sides of the question and start women being propagandised not to hit and kick and otherwise assault - same as you need to run a new version of the now worn-out program that is gaining no headway by further abusing men - but is, of itself, creating further strife and disputation often leading to violence.

The simplistic propaganda version of 'man evil - woman good' is the root cause of much of the escalation in Gender Warfare....

I see, I think. We are talking about men murdering their partners mostly after the relationship ended and you are talking about some women having a sharp tongue???


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Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 6:38pm:

I see, I think. We are talking about men murdering their partners mostly after the relationship ended and you are talking about some women having a sharp tongue??? Quote: Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain.

You missed the whole chain there.... physical violence is predominantly the domain of women in relationships - studies abound on that simple reality - then they often exercise violence by proxy by (ab)using the (non) law to get their way, even up to and including having the man arrested etc. 

The greatest motivator to revolution - and I dare say to extreme violence - is being bashed around in many ways yourself.....

Nowhere did I say it was right - I simply want people to begin dealing with the realities and not with the emotive nonsense that caused the whole problem in the first place.

Casting all men in the same category based on any accusation or emotional claim at all is a certainty to alienate and radicalise increasing numbers of them - and thus the very act of seeking to control violence by using violence is the cause of escalation and thus of the rising death toll.

Get your thinking cap on.  Since the introduction of the phoney 'domestic violence' laws that permitted action against primarily men on any excuse, this situation has gotten more and more out of control, and will only get worse if this current handling of inter-personal dispute (which is what most of these 'incidents' are) is allowed to go on being treated with violence by the instruments of the state.

Beat up enough men on absurd and unwarranted complaints, and you will get your revolution for true - trouble is many men are currently choosing the wrong enemy - their enemy is the state itself.

this isnt ground breaking news...most people accept these facts.... what is the point of postin gthis news monk??>...we have had many threads on DV...they go nowhere....as you can see grap has his mind set and nothing will change it..he is not alone.....

so what purpose are you trying to arrive at????.....

btw  what answers do you have for this overwhelming problem????

You missed the whole chain there.... physical violence is predominantly the domain of women in relationships - studies abound on that simple reality - then they often

I guess that why so many are dead... they start the trouble so they deserve death...

got it?.. :D :D :D :D :D

so many women outbox men.... its incredible.

Because murder of partners/former partners goes on, cods, that is why I posted that for mothra.

And I will keep posting DV facts until the idiots here are silent and maybe some sensible discussion can happen.

This is testament to the stupidity of women.

A small man does not walk up to a big man and start slapping him, insulting him, and creating a complete mongrel of himself without expecting a beating.

And yet women, generally smaller and weaker than men, do this all the time expecting not to be hit.

Women want and demand equal rights.
That means if they do what men do, they will cop the same back.

I have been married nearly 40 years and never come close to hitting my wife.

But my wife don't make life a misery and hit me.

I have seen women slap and even kick men viciously.
And then claimed to have been done wrong when the bloke does a back hander on them.

You want equality.
Suck it up princess, expect to be hit back.

A raving lunatic just posted. Where the hell is his keeper?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 7:04pm:

Because murder of partners/former partners goes on, cods, that is why I posted that for mothra. And I will keep posting DV facts until the idiots here are silent and maybe some sensible discussion can happen.

are you allowed to post for banned members??>.


why does she require it on ozpol... whats wrong with your place???

I know it keeps going on  do you or mothra have an answer on how to stop it????????>.

she must by now she dwells on this monster we are living with a lot.... she must have some answers surely???>..

my concern is for children.... but they dont get a mention... more and more kids lose their lives and what little lives they have is a horror story

  at least with an adult  they can chose to leave or stay.....

if a women is a nasty angry person the guy can up and leave......in other words grow a pair..

.some women have the foulest of mouths they dont care where they let fly...... so leave get out of their way.....


I dont agree with you valkie    no man should hit a women....but they can leave....or change the locks if she moves in with him.....she will get the message.....

if you have a good marriage  I did as well its hard to believe this  DV is normal for a lot families... I wish I knew what people want today   we seem to have 6 of everything.. and still its not enough....

people on average are getting angrier......just look at road rage in a couple of years we are now wielding chainsaws..

what happened to giving the bird and honking like mad.??..

no its got really really ugly.....the other day a 20 yr old almost killed a 72 yr old....

we seriously are losing it....


is anyone worried... come on monk you seem worried about DV even though you have never married...

so whats your take on rage,  today is it getting worse??

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 5:33pm:

Posted on behalf of one unfairly banned from here. FD discover your missing backbone soon! Quote: The truth about men and murder A ground-breaking new report on murder in Australia has provided overwhelming proof of the gendered nature of domestic and family violence. The report shows that men commit more than 80 per cent of murders between couples who have a history of domestic violence. The overwhelming majority of those men had a history of abusing the women they ultimately killed. In the 20 per cent of murders committed by women, over two-thirds were women killing men who had been abusing them. Of the 152 murders examined by the report only two cases were found where a woman killed a man she had a history of abusing. Fiona McCormack, CEO of Domestic Violence Victoria, says it is vital to recognise how gender is a factor in family violence. “The fact that family violence is primarily perpetrated by men and overwhelmingly experienced by women and children can be a deeply uncomfortable truth, but unless we have the courage as a community to look at why it is that some men choose to perpetrate violence, we’ll never be able to fix this,’’ she said. Until now, the Personal Safety Survey has been the primary data on violence in Australia. It is a detailed data set, but it relies on people’s memories and perceptions of the violence they have experienced and what they are willing or able to share with people conducting the survey. These responses are extrapolated on robust statistical principles and provide a very good indication of how Australians experience violence, but it is not verifiable fact. The report released last week by the Australian Domestic and Family Violence Death Review Network is not based on statistics. It’s a detailed examination of 152 intimate partner murders between 2010 and 2014 where there was credible information showing a history of violence prior to the murder. Information was collected from the Coroner’s Courts, police investigations, court proceedings and inquest findings. The results prove that domestic violence, in its most dangerous form, is overwhelmingly committed by men against women. More than one-third of the murders committed by men occurred after the relationship had ended and nearly a quarter of the women killed had Domestic Violence Orders against their killer at the time of the murder. At least 107 children lost a parent to murder, and alcohol was involved in around half of all the killings. This is the first report from the Death Review Network. As its work continues it will expand the data to include intimate-partner murders where there was no previous history of violence as well as murders between other types of family relationships. Experts believe this will expand understanding of domestic violence homicides and how gender impacts lives lost to family violence. Australia has about one murder per 100,000 people each year. This is compared to America, at around five per 100,000 and South Africa, at 34 per 100,000. https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-truth-about-men-and-murder-20180602-p4zj3g.html

Where is Aussie's outrage that you are posting on behalf of a banned member? He denies that right in Relationshits ...

Why doesn't she just post this in The Village of the Banned?

Who is 'she?'

cods wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 6:56pm:

You missed the whole chain there.... physical violence is predominantly the domain of women in relationships - studies abound on that simple reality - then they often I guess that why so many are dead... they start the trouble so they deserve death... got it?.. :D :D :D :D :D so many women outbox men.... its incredible.

Physical violence, from countless studies, IS the domain of women in relationships - the OUTCOMES are, from countless studies, predominantly in favour of men.

Furthermore - when you exert violence by proxy against one person in a dispute, who has already, in the majority of cases, been the initial victim - all you do is throw petrol on the fire and lay the groundwork for retaliation.  The further you go with proxy violence heaped on initial violence, the more you will experience a reaction....

THAT is what is causing the escalating war between women and men.... not just men per se - and government is primarily responsible for this crass stupidity.

It would be nice, for once, if some of you fantasy-ridden ideologues/slaves of the propaganda machine would actually take a fair and reasoned look at reality.

Aussie wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 10:40pm:

Who is 'she?'

Argh, m'lod - that be she who must not be named... offend not the goddesses and oracles  and the soul-less followers of Fem'nism, lest they be angered and devour your very soul along with your entire family and all ye have gained in life... better to bow down to the almighty pussy.....

Does any single one of you have any idea what it feels like to 'walk away' from a hostile relationship and lose your children in doing so?

You women - imagine if your husband (etc) was granted unconditional rights as 'primary carer' and you were left to pick up the turds left over..... there would be no end to the screeching... so, cods - men can't just 'walk away and leave'.... if they could 'just walk away' they would never be pursued relentlessly for CS and other rubbish and would not lose all they have worked for.

Aussie wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 10:40pm:

Who is 'she?'

Is that a rhetorical device you learned in law school?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 5:33pm:

Posted on behalf of one unfairly banned from here. FD discover your missing backbone soon! Quote: The truth about men and murder A ground-breaking new report on murder in Australia has provided overwhelming proof of the gendered nature of domestic and family violence. The report shows that men commit more than 80 per cent of murders between couples who have a history of domestic violence. The overwhelming majority of those men had a history of abusing the women they ultimately killed. In the 20 per cent of murders committed by women, over two-thirds were women killing men who had been abusing them. Of the 152 murders examined by the report only two cases were found where a woman killed a man she had a history of abusing. Fiona McCormack, CEO of Domestic Violence Victoria, says it is vital to recognise how gender is a factor in family violence. “The fact that family violence is primarily perpetrated by men and overwhelmingly experienced by women and children can be a deeply uncomfortable truth, but unless we have the courage as a community to look at why it is that some men choose to perpetrate violence, we’ll never be able to fix this,’’ she said. Until now, the Personal Safety Survey has been the primary data on violence in Australia. It is a detailed data set, but it relies on people’s memories and perceptions of the violence they have experienced and what they are willing or able to share with people conducting the survey. These responses are extrapolated on robust statistical principles and provide a very good indication of how Australians experience violence, but it is not verifiable fact. The report released last week by the Australian Domestic and Family Violence Death Review Network is not based on statistics. It’s a detailed examination of 152 intimate partner murders between 2010 and 2014 where there was credible information showing a history of violence prior to the murder. Information was collected from the Coroner’s Courts, police investigations, court proceedings and inquest findings. The results prove that domestic violence, in its most dangerous form, is overwhelmingly committed by men against women. More than one-third of the murders committed by men occurred after the relationship had ended and nearly a quarter of the women killed had Domestic Violence Orders against their killer at the time of the murder. At least 107 children lost a parent to murder, and alcohol was involved in around half of all the killings. This is the first report from the Death Review Network. As its work continues it will expand the data to include intimate-partner murders where there was no previous history of violence as well as murders between other types of family relationships. Experts believe this will expand understanding of domestic violence homicides and how gender impacts lives lost to family violence. Australia has about one murder per 100,000 people each year. This is compared to America, at around five per 100,000 and South Africa, at 34 per 100,000. https://www.smh.com.au/national/the-truth-about-men-and-murder-20180602-p4zj3g.html

So you're not a sock? Just a puppet. ::)

Haven't missed her one bit.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 7:04pm:

Because murder of partners/former partners goes on, cods, that is why I posted that for mothra. And I will keep posting DV facts until the idiots here are silent and maybe some sensible discussion can happen.

That will defeat your purpose then will it not? ... you going silent & all because you're one of those idiots?

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Haven't missed her one bit.

mothra will be devastated.

Poor, unjustly banned mothra would like to draw the attention of the collective to:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-06/domestic-violence-victim-locked-up-because-couldnt-attend-court/9835050

Let the hysteria rise!

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 11:58am:

Poor, unjustly banned mothra would like to draw the attention of the collective to: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-06/domestic-violence-victim-locked-up-because-couldnt-attend-court/9835050 Let the hysteria rise!

Haha!  I read that one earlier today.  Ain't that justice thingy a double-edged sword for the ignorant to muck around with?

Of course, we all realise that the article was just another ABC infomercial for this:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9835072-3x2-340x227.png
Photo: Domestic Violence NSW chief Moo Baulch. (Supplied: Domestic Violence NSW)

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 11:58am:

Poor, unjustly banned mothra would like to draw the attention of the collective to: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-06/domestic-violence-victim-locked-up-because-couldnt-attend-court/9835050 Let the hysteria rise!

Echos from The Village of the Banned.

Why is she wasting the courts time and money?

Probably just a drunk Abo

It is always very concerning when a victim does not attend court as it may jeopardise their safety," she said.

"This can mean perpetrators can continue to carry out the abuse without being held accountable or engaging in programs and interventions to change their behaviour

Btw Monk, you should have a bit more rape and dv at your joint to keep your clients happy and prevent them coming here for their daily fix.

Gordon wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 10:29pm:

Why doesn't she just post this in The Village of the Banned?

oh you bad boy you mean DAMNED    ;) ;)


can we please have some sensible replies to how we can fix this DV monster we live with every day????..


some on monk and mothra    its your thread..

give us what you think will go a long was to stopping this???...

I cant wait...you have to have some answers as you are so concerned......I cant see any point in everyone just saying who they think is to blame......and in graps case   its always the female.... :)...what does that solve?

Gordon wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 12:06pm:

Why is she wasting the courts time and money? Probably just a drunk Abo It is always very concerning when a victim does not attend court as it may jeopardise their safety," she said. "This can mean perpetrators can continue to carry out the abuse without being held accountable or engaging in programs and interventions to change their behaviour

 

I am not sure but dont we have one law for aboriginals and one for the rest of us?????... ::) ::)

Gordon wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 12:06pm:

Why is she wasting the courts time and money? Probably just a drunk Abo It is always very concerning when a victim does not attend court as it may jeopardise their safety," she said. "This can mean perpetrators can continue to carry out the abuse without being held accountable or engaging in programs and interventions to change their behaviour

Her excuse was that she couldn't find a babysitter.

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 12:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 12:06pm: Why is she wasting the courts time and money? Probably just a drunk Abo It is always very concerning when a victim does not attend court as it may jeopardise their safety," she said. "This can mean perpetrators can continue to carry out the abuse without being held accountable or engaging in programs and interventions to change their behaviour Her excuse was that she couldn't find a babysitter.

This is my friends two classic examples of institutionalised racism.  It is in built into many commoner's mentality. 

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 12:19pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 12:06pm: Why is she wasting the courts time and money? Probably just a drunk Abo It is always very concerning when a victim does not attend court as it may jeopardise their safety," she said. "This can mean perpetrators can continue to carry out the abuse without being held accountable or engaging in programs and interventions to change their behaviour Her excuse was that she couldn't find a babysitter.

they have childminding in most courts

cods wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 1:00pm:

Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 12:19pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 12:06pm: Why is she wasting the courts time and money? Probably just a drunk Abo It is always very concerning when a victim does not attend court as it may jeopardise their safety," she said. "This can mean perpetrators can continue to carry out the abuse without being held accountable or engaging in programs and interventions to change their behaviour Her excuse was that she couldn't find a babysitter. they have childminding in most courts

Oh Cods, why did you have to write that?  Do you realise that you have just undermined an ABC infomercial for the lastest political NGO to save all the poor innocent women from the evil men they love?

Domestic Violence NSW might look stupid now, because of you.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 10:40pm: Who is 'she?' Argh, m'lod - that be she who must not be named... offend not the goddesses and oracles  and the soul-less followers of Fem'nism, lest they be angered and devour your very soul along with your entire family and all ye have gained in life... better to bow down to the almighty pussy..... Does any single one of you have any idea what it feels like to 'walk away' from a hostile relationship and lose your children in doing so? You women - imagine if your husband (etc) was granted unconditional rights as 'primary carer' and you were left to pick up the turds left over..... there would be no end to the screeching... so, cods - men can't just 'walk away and leave'.... if they could 'just walk away' they would never be pursued relentlessly for CS and other rubbish and would not lose all they have worked for.

Great post.
Women have no fkkkn idea what it is like to loose a child to a vicious spiteful bitch that our system supports.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Does any single one of you have any idea what it feels like to 'walk away' from a hostile relationship and lose your children in doing so?

About half the Australian adult male population.  The best way to deal with it is to just hide your natural paternal feelings from yourself and hate all children.  Then you can convince yourself that you're not missing out on any important aspect of life.  Fatherhood is not all Robert Hughes made it out to be.  Believe in that, and you'll survive.  Look what they did to him! 

PS: Stolen Generation v2.0

Gordon wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 12:09pm:

Btw Monk, you should have a bit more rape and dv at your joint to keep your clients happy and prevent them coming here for their daily fix.

If you want to see a debate on this very topic conducted with sensitivity and respect than look here.

(link is to the thread on my board.)

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 10:47pm:

cods wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 6:56pm: You missed the whole chain there.... physical violence is predominantly the domain of women in relationships - studies abound on that simple reality - then they often I guess that why so many are dead... they start the trouble so they deserve death... got it?.. :D :D :D :D :D so many women outbox men.... its incredible. Physical violence, from countless studies, IS the domain of women in relationships - the OUTCOMES are, from countless studies, predominantly in favour of men. Furthermore - when you exert violence by proxy against one person in a dispute, who has already, in the majority of cases, been the initial victim - all you do is throw petrol on the fire and lay the groundwork for retaliation.  The further you go with proxy violence heaped on initial violence, the more you will experience a reaction.... THAT is what is causing the escalating war between women and men.... not just men per se - and government is primarily responsible for this crass stupidity. It would be nice, for once, if some of you fantasy-ridden ideologues/slaves of the propaganda machine would actually take a fair and reasoned look at reality.

You're so far wrong, I don't know if I can summon the time or energy to respond

And it's your obdurate attitude which leads to male on female violence

when the woman is right and knows it, the male, using his superior strength, shuts her down using violence

Listen, whomever you are, remember something here and for the rest of your life:  all men commenced life as females.  No exceptions.  All men commenced life as females

and deep down, that rankles and burns

Some of them are so unable to get over it that they spend the rest of their lives trying to deny that at bottom, they're women

which is why men turn so easily to boofing other guys

Yes, it has not escaped anyone's attention that gays outnumber lesbians by far

and more men opt to become 'trans' than do women

Men have a lot of problems which can only be solved via regularly spaced wars and even then, they utilize wars to rape, bash and kill women and children

The reason things are growing steadily worse matches my prediction way back when the birth control Pill was still controversial :  once women have control of birth control, men will stick out their bottom lips, grab their bats and run -- to David Jones for frilly frocks

men are fake women
or modified females if that rolls more easily from the tongue

And another thing

The piece of excrement who was sentenced the other day to 41 years in prison in the NT

for torturing and beating his young son to death

He's far from being the only one guilty of infanticide this year alone -- it's an almost daily occurrence

To use your excuse, that little kid must have 'initiated violence' against his much larger, stronger parent, huh?

Sure.  That little kid just continued initiating violence against his much larger father for over six months

and that little dead, tortured kid DROVE his father to violence so extreme over a six month period

that the poor, bashed, righteous father ended up killing his child

Poor father, having to spend 41 years in prison

when it was all that little kids fault


Pretty soon the mens movement will announce that kids are the devils to blame, just like their mothers

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:00pm:

All men commenced life as females

Where do the 'Y' chromosomes come from, professor?

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Casting all men in the same category based on any accusation or emotional claim at all is a certainty to alienate and radicalise increasing numbers of them - and thus the very act of seeking to control violence by using violence is the cause of escalation and thus of the rising death toll.

Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children.

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children. Spot

Don't you think you're being rather sexist?  Is there not a law that has been around for a few years now that casts all people that murder their partners and/or children before a court trial to decide who killed who and why?  It's called 'murder' and it's got to do with something in the Old Testament about not killing.  Other religions also have such rules applicable to the things they don't think it is a good idea to kill without good reason, eg. Hindus don't kill cattle.

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:29pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm: Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children. Spot Don't you think you're being rather sexist?  Is there not a law that has been around for a few years now that casts all people that murder their partners and/or children before a court trial to decide who killed who and why?  It's called 'murder' and it's got to do with something in the Old Testament about not killing.  Other religions also have such rules applicable to the things they don't think it is a good idea to kill without good reason, eg. Hindus don't kill cattle.

Read the op

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:33pm:

Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm: Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children. Spot Don't you think you're being rather sexist?  Is there not a law that has been around for a few years now that casts all people that murder their partners and/or children before a court trial to decide who killed who and why?  It's called 'murder' and it's got to do with something in the Old Testament about not killing.  Other religions also have such rules applicable to the things they don't think it is a good idea to kill without good reason, eg. Hindus don't kill cattle. Read the op Spot

Yes I did.  It's narrowminded sexist crap.  What's your excuse, Spot?

Picturespeaks a thousand words

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:39pm:

Picturespeaks a thousand words

www.impactforwomen.org.au eh?  That wouldn't be another one of those sexist feminist propaganda websites, would it?  Why don't you stop with the clickbait and answer my question about 'Y' chromosomes?  Are you afraid of being mocked as an idiot?

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:14pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:00pm: All men commenced life as females Where do the 'Y' chromosomes come from, professor?

All men commence life as female

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:41pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:39pm: Picturespeaks a thousand words www.impactforwomen.org.au eh?  That wouldn't be another one of those sexist feminist propaganda websites, would it?  Why don't you stop with the clickbait and answer my question about 'Y' chromosomes?  Are you afraid of being mocked as an idiot?

Seems pretty clear that you're neither old nor mature enough to cope with this topic

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:35pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:33pm: Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:29pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm: Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children. Spot Don't you think you're being rather sexist?  Is there not a law that has been around for a few years now that casts all people that murder their partners and/or children before a court trial to decide who killed who and why?  It's called 'murder' and it's got to do with something in the Old Testament about not killing.  Other religions also have such rules applicable to the things they don't think it is a good idea to kill without good reason, eg. Hindus don't kill cattle. Read the op Spot Yes I did.  It's narrowminded sexist crap.  What's your excuse, Spot?

Are you saying the stats are wrong? That mainly women kill their partners and children?

Spot

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 1:55pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 12:09pm: Btw Monk, you should have a bit more rape and dv at your joint to keep your clients happy and prevent them coming here for their daily fix. If you want to see a debate on this very topic conducted with sensitivity and respect than look here. (link is to the thread on my board.)

thats all very noice monk... but which post  give answers to stopping this problem???>.


can you tell what was the point of posting this in the first plac.e... did you and mothra just want people to come out and say   nah    men get picked on and women get away with murder..... ::) ::)

  you have set yourself up to know a lot about DV....


so come on monk stop avoiding



what solutions  have you come up with   we know DVOs   done stop murder...we know moving around doesnt stop murderers....

womens refuges doesnt stop anything...


what do you think would stop it??

that hasnt already been tried....


getting into someones head.. is not an option.

It is true. All fetuses start as female, hence males have nipples. they also have a vestigial vagina at the top of the scrotum there is an invagination. At a certain stage there is a wave of testosterone that halts the development of female characteristics.

The Y chromosome in humans is shrinking in size over generations. No one knows why or what will happen when it loses even more genes.

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Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:51pm:

The Y chromosome in humans is shrinking in size over generations. No one knows why or what will happen when it loses even more genes.

Maybe yours is, but what I want to know is, where did it come from?  Did it magically just appear in the womb from nowhere?

Quote:

what do you think would stop it?? that hasnt already been tried....

As with apes and other primates, the only cure is extermination

Science is working on gene-modification

but Barbara Specre and her crew destroyed science's hopes by flooding Europe and the West with africans and others of their kind

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:54pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:51pm: The Y chromosome in humans is shrinking in size over generations. No one knows why or what will happen when it loses even more genes. Maybe yours is, but what I want to know is, where did it come from?  Did it magically just appear in the womb from nowhere?

Over generations. Your Y chromosome is not as large, has fewer genes, than your great grandfather’s Y chromosome.

Obviously, the large X chromosome starts expressing before the Y chromosome does. You have a vestigial vagina and breasts. Men can get breast cancer.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:00pm:

Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:54pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:51pm: The Y chromosome in humans is shrinking in size over generations. No one knows why or what will happen when it loses even more genes. Maybe yours is, but what I want to know is, where did it come from?  Did it magically just appear in the womb from nowhere? Over generations. Your Y chromosome is not as large, has fewer genes, than your great grandfather’s Y chromosome. Obviously, the large X chromosome starts expressing before the Y chromosome does. You have a vestigial vagina and breasts. Men can get breast cancer.

Where does it come from?  Do you believe that women have 'Y' chromosomes stashed away in there somewhere that they only give out to good transexual foetuses?  How does a woman know that her unborn daughter wants to be a son?  Does she have the right to change her spawn's gender to her own fancy?  Then why are half the babies born with 'Y' chromosomes? 

Is being a man some kind of reward for good interuterine behaviour?
Did you hear the one about the birds and the bees?

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:54pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:51pm: The Y chromosome in humans is shrinking in size over generations. No one knows why or what will happen when it loses even more genes. Maybe yours is, but what I want to know is, where did it come from?  Did it magically just appear in the womb from nowhere?

You need to take on board

that all men commence life as females


That needs to be fully understood by men at intellectual level in addition to their knowing it at cellular level


Testes are merely descended ovaries

The penis is merely a prolapsed uterus


Women, were they of a spiteful nature could neuter men all day every day -- for example when rapists force women to perform oral sex on them


one bite and good by Charlie and Hello Charlene


Men are incredibly vulnerable, lifelong


Ancient women killed their male children to get their grown men to wake up to themselves


Men treasure their bit of flesh hosepipe and use it as a weapon and toy.  But it's just a bit of hose.  Little boys lose their bit of hose climbing fences or, like the young guy in the news right now, from merely going for a swim during which his bit of hose was bitten off by a fish


If the penis was located in the middle of men's backs, life would improve immeasureably for women and kids

Men can't keep their hands off themselves.  They want to flash it around.  They talk about it using pet names as if it were a separate identity


So yeah, the gene splicing way back wasn't perfect. They had to modify females to make them male.  And they made mistakes, resulting in what we have now.  Men are a faulty product.  Too much testosterone, far more than can be coped with by their  brains.  Lust for violence.  Which led to bullying of women, children and all those weaker or disadvantaged


Then you see them in the old men's homes in their beige cardigans and slippers for the swollen ankles.  By that time, their testosterone has deserted them and those big tough men from years ago end up looking like Aunty Edna with their little pipsqueak voices and soft sagging skin.  They turn into old women at the end


and in the wake of many of them lie all the lives and bodies they ruined when they believed they were top dog


No.  Men are not top dogs, which is why they have to strut and shout.  Deep down, they know they are not the original article

whereas women remain female all their lives


Men are fake women created from some sort of catastrophe and of necessity


Men commence life as female


The female is the default mode


which is why unevolved males have such chips on their shoulders


I would willingly act as executioner and would work assiduously at the job 16 hours a day in an effort to rid this planet (women, children, men, animals) of toxic males, after which I'd burn branch and root of that genetic line back to the 10th generation


Only when men feel what they inflict on others will they begin to understand.  And that goes equally for toxic females who inflict the same miseries on others

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:08pm:

Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:54pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:51pm: The Y chromosome in humans is shrinking in size over generations. No one knows why or what will happen when it loses even more genes. Maybe yours is, but what I want to know is, where did it come from?  Did it magically just appear in the womb from nowhere? You need to take on board that all men commence life as females That needs to be fully understood by men at intellectual level in addition to their knowing it at cellular level Testes are merely descended ovaries The penis is merely a prolapsed uterus Women, were they of a spiteful nature could neuter men all day every day -- for example when rapists force women to perform oral sex on them one bite and good by Charlie and Hello Charlene Men are incredibly vulnerable, lifelong Ancient women killed their male children to get their grown men to wake up to themselves Men treasure their bit of flesh hosepipe and use it as a weapon and toy.  But it's just a bit of hose.  Little boys lose their bit of hose climbing fences or, like the young guy in the news right now, from merely going for a swim during which his bit of hose was bitten off by a fish If the penis was located in the middle of men's backs, life would improve immeasureably for women and kids Men can't keep their hands off themselves.  They want to flash it around.  They talk about it using pet names as if it were a separate identity So yeah, the gene splicing way back wasn't perfect. They had to modify females to make them male.  And they made mistakes, resulting in what we have now.  Men are a faulty product.  Too much testosterone, far more than can be coped with by their  brains.  Lust for violence.  Which led to bullying of women, children and all those weaker or disadvantaged Then you see them in the old men's homes in their beige cardigans and slippers for the swollen ankles.  By that time, their testosterone has deserted them and those big tough men from years ago end up looking like Aunty Edna with their little pipsqueak voices and soft sagging skin.  They turn into old women at the end and in the wake of many of them lie all the lives and bodies they ruined when they believed they were top dog No.  Men are not top dogs, which is why they have to strut and shout.  Deep down, they know they are not the original article whereas women remain female all their lives Men are fake women created from some sort of catastrophe and of necessity Men commence life as female The female is the default mode which is why unevolved males have such chips on their shoulders I would willingly act as executioner and would work assiduously at the job 16 hours a day in an effort to rid this planet (women, children, men, animals) of toxic males, after which I'd burn branch and root of that genetic line back to the 10th generation Only when men feel what they inflict on others will they begin to understand.  And that goes equally for toxic females who inflict the same miseries on others

Who cares?  It's the end result that counts and women are a Y chromosome with a serious split in the middle.

Where did you dig up that piece of insanity?  Some dopey mental case feminist?

Link it if you dare...

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:08pm:

Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:54pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:51pm: The Y chromosome in humans is shrinking in size over generations. No one knows why or what will happen when it loses even more genes. Maybe yours is, but what I want to know is, where did it come from?  Did it magically just appear in the womb from nowhere? You need to take on board that all men commence life as females That needs to be fully understood by men at intellectual level in addition to their knowing it at cellular level Testes are merely descended ovaries The penis is merely a prolapsed uterus Women, were they of a spiteful nature could neuter men all day every day -- for example when rapists force women to perform oral sex on them one bite and good by Charlie and Hello Charlene Men are incredibly vulnerable, lifelong Ancient women killed their male children to get their grown men to wake up to themselves Men treasure their bit of flesh hosepipe and use it as a weapon and toy.  But it's just a bit of hose.  Little boys lose their bit of hose climbing fences or, like the young guy in the news right now, from merely going for a swim during which his bit of hose was bitten off by a fish If the penis was located in the middle of men's backs, life would improve immeasureably for women and kids Men can't keep their hands off themselves.  They want to flash it around.  They talk about it using pet names as if it were a separate identity So yeah, the gene splicing way back wasn't perfect. They had to modify females to make them male.  And they made mistakes, resulting in what we have now.  Men are a faulty product.  Too much testosterone, far more than can be coped with by their  brains.  Lust for violence.  Which led to bullying of women, children and all those weaker or disadvantaged Then you see them in the old men's homes in their beige cardigans and slippers for the swollen ankles.  By that time, their testosterone has deserted them and those big tough men from years ago end up looking like Aunty Edna with their little pipsqueak voices and soft sagging skin.  They turn into old women at the end and in the wake of many of them lie all the lives and bodies they ruined when they believed they were top dog No.  Men are not top dogs, which is why they have to strut and shout.  Deep down, they know they are not the original article whereas women remain female all their lives Men are fake women created from some sort of catastrophe and of necessity Men commence life as female The female is the default mode which is why unevolved males have such chips on their shoulders I would willingly act as executioner and would work assiduously at the job 16 hours a day in an effort to rid this planet (women, children, men, animals) of toxic males, after which I'd burn branch and root of that genetic line back to the 10th generation Only when men feel what they inflict on others will they begin to understand.  And that goes equally for toxic females who inflict the same miseries on others

Another good laugh for the afternoon, but can you please tell me where 'Y' chromosomes come from?  No bull', tell the truth as best as you know about the process of sexual reproduction.

If you cannot explain where 'Y' chromosomes come from, then I'm sorry but I am left with no option but to mark your score as an 'F' in sex education, professor.

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:54pm:

Quote: what do you think would stop it?? that hasnt already been tried.... As with apes and other primates, the only cure is extermination Science is working on gene-modification but Barbara Specre and her crew destroyed science's hopes by flooding Europe and the West with africans and others of their kind

haha.... you could be right

was it Brave New World   where babies were created in test tubes and everyone was sedated out of their minds....lol...

maybe thats what monk visualises as a cure all..

as so far he hasnt answered my question.....sad really    

talking about the obvious  has been done over and over  men and women can both be very very violent....

I think its called Survival   at least it was hundreds of years ago.....

however we have come a long way..at least I thought so..... and then!!!!!!! we have road rage

  can you imagine someone usually a male  gets out of his car because someone had the hide to cut in front of him...opens a strangers door lands several blows on sitting persons head......

then calmly drives home to a wife and children..........?????????... in what state I ask you?....is he still in a blinding rage???


so many factors create a storm.....

as a child I lived on the edge... from one day to the next we never knew what mood our dad would be in...

he would go to work in one mood   come home in another....as time went by I learnt he was fine with everyone outside of the home.. they loved him......but at home it was not good...how does a child or a beaten women  even try to understand that?....

in those days women stuck it out there were no pensions or homes or refuges to go to......

but now we have provided all those things and more  yet nothing changes.....


so thats why I call for answers  no good talking about it that doesnt work for sure.

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:42pm:

Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:14pm: PZ547 wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:00pm: All men commenced life as females Where do the 'Y' chromosomes come from, professor? All men commence life as female

Not when they're born.  A clitoris is a shrunken penis and ovaries are testicles that refused to drop down out of the shame of being a woman.... the Y is an upright, able to stand on one leg piece of art, the X is a split system, both mentally and physically and has to spread feet wide just to stand on its own two feet... sperm is the determinant of the gender of a child... the ovum is a mere receptacle and does as it is told.....

Hurts, doesn't it, when people make nasty disparaging remarks on the basis of physical attributes of a gender?

You reckon we could keep this discussion in the realm of the sane and sensible for a change, and not run around spouting some contrived feminist nonsense?

When you start a war - you start a war..... when the state, at the bidding of its feminist buddies, started their war against men, they created this environment of violence and death.  That war has been going on for forty years with no end in sight.... and the only solution the benighted souls who support the feminist line can come up with is 'kill the men'.

Now that'll really work.... something wrong with you people who advocate violence to cure the possibility of violence, and then wonder why you get violence in return.

cods wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:20pm:

...opens a strangers door lands several blows on sitting persons head...

Tobacco taxation makes the citizens angry like taking candy from a baby.  It is not a conscious affliction because of all the propaganda from the anti-tobacco mob.  They don't know what makes them so angry because they are taught that the anger is their own fault, so there is no conscious idea that it is the price of smokes now that causes so much possibly avoidable frustration and anger.

If you want to stop violence, axe the other tax.

Imrah, you need to learn to conduct your own research

You have no excuses unlike those of a few decades earlier.  They had to pore over numerous books, visit the libraries, etc.  All you need do is tap online for a few seconds

So let's face it.  You don't dispute that men commence life as females.  But that galls you no end.  You're furious.  Making excuses in the attempt to blind yourself to the facts

Your problem, not mine.  I don't need to spend time and energy tutoring those who don't want to know

But here's something else.  Women and girls pity men.  They feel sorry for their fathers, brothers, boy friends, etc.  They know most men aren't the full quid.  They know many men resort to violence because they're unable to process information or articulate their emotions, suffer from frustration over that, etc.

It's why most mothers spend a great deal of their time trying to help their sons

You'll hear mothers basically training their sons into how to be men.  ' Eat this up so you can grow up to be a big boy'.  ' Come on, let's have another go at tying your shoe laces, like a big boy '.  Because they dont' want their sons to be behind their classmates and don't want their sons to be butt of others jokes.  They try to make men of their sons

When do you ever hear a mother OR father having to do the same with their daughters?  Ever hear anyone say, ' Come on darling, eat your spinache so you can grow up to be a big girl '?  Ever hear a parent trying to jolly their daughters along with encouragement such as, ' Come on darling, you want to grow up to be a woman, don't you '?

Never happens.  Girls don't have to be trained in how to be girls or women.  It comes naturally because they ARE female from conception on

Toxic males are a burden on women, kids, men and animals alike.  It should not need to be said that evolved men despair as much as do women about toxic males

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:23pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:42pm: Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:14pm: PZ547 wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:00pm: All men commenced life as females Where do the 'Y' chromosomes come from, professor? All men commence life as female Not when they're born.  A clitoris is a shrunken penis and ovaries are testicles that refused to drop down out of the shame of being a woman.... the Y is an upright, able to stand on one leg piece of art, the X is a split system, both mentally and physically and has to spread feet wide just to stand on its own two feet... sperm is the determinant of the gender of a child... the ovum is a mere receptacle and does as it is told..... Hurts, doesn't it, when people make nasty disparaging remarks on the basis of physical attributes of a gender? You reckon we could keep this discussion in the realm of the sane and sensible for a change, and not run around spouting some contrived feminist nonsense? When you start a war - you start a war..... when the state, at the bidding of its feminist buddies, started their war against men, they created this environment of violence and death.  That war has been going on for forty years with no end in sight.... and the only solution the benighted souls who support the feminist line can come up with is 'kill the men'. Now that'll really work.... something wrong with you people who advocate violence to cure the possibility of violence, and then wonder why you get violence in return.

Grappler you have issues which would most likely be best resolved with therapists

in the meantime, stop lying (to yourself or anyone else) because you're just making a fool of yourself

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:32pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 3:23pm: PZ547 wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:42pm: Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:14pm: PZ547 wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:00pm: All men commenced life as females Where do the 'Y' chromosomes come from, professor? All men commence life as female Not when they're born.  A clitoris is a shrunken penis and ovaries are testicles that refused to drop down out of the shame of being a woman.... the Y is an upright, able to stand on one leg piece of art, the X is a split system, both mentally and physically and has to spread feet wide just to stand on its own two feet... sperm is the determinant of the gender of a child... the ovum is a mere receptacle and does as it is told..... Hurts, doesn't it, when people make nasty disparaging remarks on the basis of physical attributes of a gender? You reckon we could keep this discussion in the realm of the sane and sensible for a change, and not run around spouting some contrived feminist nonsense? When you start a war - you start a war..... when the state, at the bidding of its feminist buddies, started their war against men, they created this environment of violence and death.  That war has been going on for forty years with no end in sight.... and the only solution the benighted souls who support the feminist line can come up with is 'kill the men'. Now that'll really work.... something wrong with you people who advocate violence to cure the possibility of violence, and then wonder why you get violence in return. Grappler you have issues which would most likely be best resolved with therapists in the meantime, stop lying (to yourself or anyone else) because you're just making a fool of yourself

When you post crap like you'd like to be an executioner and work sixteen hours a day etc - it is obvious which one of has 'issues' sonny - YOU!

Not mentally agile enough to understand parody, are you.. or to learn the lesson that when you hand crap out, and get it back, you simply can't handle it, but still think it's all good and fine to hand it out.

Child-like is the type.... and silly enough to listen to garbage handed down by the acolytes and seers of a nasty and violent group.

YOU are the one with issues - and all the others like you.  I'm the one advocating a different approach from the violent one taken up by government at the behest of insane feminists - the path of non-violence... but I doubt you'll ever understand that.

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:30pm:

Imrah, you need to learn to conduct your own research You have no excuses unlike those of a few decades earlier.  They had to pore over numerous books, visit the libraries, etc.  All you need do is tap online for a few seconds So let's face it.  You don't dispute that men commence life as females.  But that galls you no end.  You're furious.  Making excuses in the attempt to blind yourself to the facts Your problem, not mine.  I don't need to spend time and energy tutoring those who don't want to know But here's something else.  Women and girls pity men.  They feel sorry for their fathers, brothers, boy friends, etc.  They know most men aren't the full quid.  They know many men resort to violence because they're unable to process information or articulate their emotions, suffer from frustration over that, etc. It's why most mothers spend a great deal of their time trying to help their sons You'll hear mothers basically training their sons into how to be men.  ' Eat this up so you can grow up to be a big boy'.  ' Come on, let's have another go at tying your shoe laces, like a big boy '.  Because they dont' want their sons to be behind their classmates and don't want their sons to be butt of others jokes.  They try to make men of their sons When do you ever hear a mother OR father having to do the same with their daughters?  Ever hear anyone say, ' Come on darling, eat your spinache so you can grow up to be a big girl '?  Ever hear a parent trying to jolly their daughters along with encouragement such as, ' Come on darling, you want to grow up to be a woman, don't you '? Never happens.  Girls don't have to be trained in how to be girls or women.  It comes naturally because they ARE female from conception on Toxic males are a burden on women, kids, men and animals alike.  It should not need to be said that evolved men despair as much as do women about toxic males

Hmm, well you have failed sex education, professor.  Since I am a good and merciful student of yours, I will not leave you in perpetual suspense about it. 

The answer is: 'Y' chromosomes come from the little tadpoles that your dad gave your mum to make a baby, except that judging by your logic, your mum didn't want his 'Y' chromosomes so she chucked them out and kept the 'X' chromosomes, and that is how she made you.  It's called 'conception' and it begins at the beginning.  I am sorry if the truth hurts, but you'll thank me in the long run.

Imrah, how about you head back to the graphs I posted a while back

They're up to date as of a couple of days ago

Dreadful litany of bullying and violence on the part of men

against women, children, other men


Very easy to read graphs.  In colour.  Look at the clear cut evidence of male violence against all those they've assessed as being smaller and weaker than themselves, regardless of whether their victims are male or female

Indisputable evidence right there and we're only half way through the year

It's always been the same.  It's always been known and officially recognised

But, unless they die young, those male bullies end up in sick beds and old people's homes

By then, the vast majority of them have changed their tune.  When their testosterone departs them and leaves them empty of strength and power, they start whining like girls about not getting enough custard at dinner

it's pathetic

And they deny all the harm they've caused others. Outright deny it.  To hear them, you could almost believe they've developed amnesia

it's because they're scared spitless

They know it won't be long before they have to face something FAR, FAR bigger and stronger than they ever were

and they know this time they'll lose


They won't have their half dozen mates or their guns or their lumps of wood or belts or axes with them --  not when they're kicked out of their  bodies

and they're scared

so they start lying their heads off, there on their death beds

and they discover religion

and they cling to their priest or vicar or rabbis or whatever

they beg for reassurance

they plead to be told they'll be forgiven

They push from their minds their bleeding wives, girl friends and children, and those men they kicked in those alleys

Their turn to she et

and they do.  They crap their old age nappies

and they rely on kind young women, middle aged women, to clean them up and pat their bald heads and hold their hands and tell them, 'There there, love, it will be all right.  There aren't any black shadows in the corner who've come to get you '


but hey, Imrah

Those black shadows are there and they're real 

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:54pm:

Imrah, how about you head back to the graphs I posted a while back They're up to date as of a couple of days ago Dreadful litany of bullying and violence on the part of men against women, children, other men Very easy to read graphs.  In colour.  Look at the clear cut evidence of male violence against all those they've assessed as being smaller and weaker than themselves, regardless of whether their victims are male or female Indisputable evidence right there and we're only half way through the year It's always been the same.  It's always been known and officially recognised But, unless they die young, those male bullies end up in sick beds and old people's homes By then, the vast majority of them have changed their tune.  When their testosterone departs them and leaves them empty of strength and power, they start whining like girls about not getting enough custard at dinner it's pathetic And they deny all the harm they've caused others. Outright deny it.  To hear them, you could almost believe they've developed amnesia it's because they're scared spitless They know it won't be long before they have to face something FAR, FAR bigger and stronger than they ever were and they know this time they'll lose They won't have their half dozen mates or their guns or their lumps of wood or belts or axes with them --  not when they're kicked out of their  bodies and they're scared so they start lying their heads off, there on their death beds and they discover religion and they cling to their priest or vicar or rabbis or whatever they beg for reassurance they plead to be told they'll be forgiven They push from their minds their bleeding wives, girl friends and children, and those men they kicked in those alleys Their turn to she et and they do.  They crap their old age nappies and they rely on kind young women, middle aged women, to clean them up and pat their bald heads and hold their hands and tell them, 'There there, love, it will be all right.  There aren't any black shadows in the corner who've come to get you ' but hey, Imrah Those black shadows are there and they're real

The colloquial phrase is 'penis envy'.  I don't know if there is any cure for it, particularly for scorned women without much hope, but I wish you all the best of luck with your recovery.    You will need a good helping of luck to fix it. 

What I do know is that there is a place in this world for testosterone, because without it we'd all still be living in tall trees to stop the ferocious lions and tigers from having us for lunch when we are not watching.  Be careful not to take our civilisation for granted, because you'd quicky die without it.

PS:  Time for me to be away now.  See you tomorrow if you're lucky.

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:08pm:

Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:54pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:51pm: The Y chromosome in humans is shrinking in size over generations. No one knows why or what will happen when it loses even more genes. Maybe yours is, but what I want to know is, where did it come from?  Did it magically just appear in the womb from nowhere? You need to take on board that all men commence life as females That needs to be fully understood by men at intellectual level in addition to their knowing it at cellular level Testes are merely descended ovaries The penis is merely a prolapsed uterus Women, were they of a spiteful nature could neuter men all day every day -- for example when rapists force women to perform oral sex on them one bite and good by Charlie and Hello Charlene Men are incredibly vulnerable, lifelong Ancient women killed their male children to get their grown men to wake up to themselves Men treasure their bit of flesh hosepipe and use it as a weapon and toy.  But it's just a bit of hose.  Little boys lose their bit of hose climbing fences or, like the young guy in the news right now, from merely going for a swim during which his bit of hose was bitten off by a fish If the penis was located in the middle of men's backs, life would improve immeasureably for women and kids Men can't keep their hands off themselves.  They want to flash it around.  They talk about it using pet names as if it were a separate identity So yeah, the gene splicing way back wasn't perfect. They had to modify females to make them male.  And they made mistakes, resulting in what we have now.  Men are a faulty product.  Too much testosterone, far more than can be coped with by their  brains.  Lust for violence.  Which led to bullying of women, children and all those weaker or disadvantaged Then you see them in the old men's homes in their beige cardigans and slippers for the swollen ankles.  By that time, their testosterone has deserted them and those big tough men from years ago end up looking like Aunty Edna with their little pipsqueak voices and soft sagging skin.  They turn into old women at the end and in the wake of many of them lie all the lives and bodies they ruined when they believed they were top dog No.  Men are not top dogs, which is why they have to strut and shout.  Deep down, they know they are not the original article whereas women remain female all their lives Men are fake women created from some sort of catastrophe and of necessity Men commence life as female The female is the default mode which is why unevolved males have such chips on their shoulders I would willingly act as executioner and would work assiduously at the job 16 hours a day in an effort to rid this planet (women, children, men, animals) of toxic males, after which I'd burn branch and root of that genetic line back to the 10th generation Only when men feel what they inflict on others will they begin to understand.  And that goes equally for toxic females who inflict the same miseries on others

You quote ultra-violent sh1t like this, stating a desire to blame an entire social group for a minority crime, and advocate murdering them en masse - and have the balls to suggest someone else has 'issues'?

You are one very sick individual.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 7:37am:

Quote: Haven't missed her one bit. mothra will be devastated.

Good ... how about you you lackey? 

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 12:05pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 11:58am: Poor, unjustly banned mothra would like to draw the attention of the collective to: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-06/domestic-violence-victim-locked-up-because-couldnt-attend-court/9835050 Let the hysteria rise! Haha!  I read that one earlier today.  Ain't that justice thingy a double-edged sword for the ignorant to muck around with? Of course, we all realise that the article was just another ABC infomercial for this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/9835072-3x2-340x227.png Photo: Domestic Violence NSW chief Moo Baulch. (Supplied: Domestic Violence NSW)

When's she having the op? You know ... the addadictomy?

Does she give the DV a womans perspective or a mans?

That's the role she playing out.

What a bloody hypocrite.

Gnads wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 5:28pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 7:37am: Quote: Haven't missed her one bit. mothra will be devastated. Good ... how about you you lackey?

I enjoy very much discussing isues with mothra. Unlike so many here, mothra is educated, intelligent and articulate. Only a dickhead would ban her permanently for no reason.

Plenty of of others from here debate on my board, from BigOle to DonDeeHippy to DRAH and a few others. You should have a look sometime.

Gnads wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 5:28pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 7:37am: Quote: Haven't missed her one bit. mothra will be devastated. Good ... how about you you lackey?

how did her name come into this AGAIN- eff oFf Monk-

Hello sweetness and light!

How is your flue, still smoking?

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 3:30pm:

Imrah, you need to learn to conduct your own research You have no excuses unlike those of a few decades earlier.  They had to pore over numerous books, visit the libraries, etc.  All you need do is tap online for a few seconds So let's face it.  You don't dispute that men commence life as females.  But that galls you no end.  You're furious.  Making excuses in the attempt to blind yourself to the facts Your problem, not mine.  I don't need to spend time and energy tutoring those who don't want to know But here's something else.  Women and girls pity men.  They feel sorry for their fathers, brothers, boy friends, etc.  They know most men aren't the full quid.  They know many men resort to violence because they're unable to process information or articulate their emotions, suffer from frustration over that, etc. It's why most mothers spend a great deal of their time trying to help their sons You'll hear mothers basically training their sons into how to be men.  ' Eat this up so you can grow up to be a big boy'.  ' Come on, let's have another go at tying your shoe laces, like a big boy '.  Because they dont' want their sons to be behind their classmates and don't want their sons to be butt of others jokes.  They try to make men of their sons When do you ever hear a mother OR father having to do the same with their daughters?  Ever hear anyone say, ' Come on darling, eat your spinache so you can grow up to be a big girl '?  Ever hear a parent trying to jolly their daughters along with encouragement such as, ' Come on darling, you want to grow up to be a woman, don't you '? Never happens.  Girls don't have to be trained in how to be girls or women.  It comes naturally because they ARE female from conception on Toxic males are a burden on women, kids, men and animals alike.  It should not need to be said that evolved men despair as much as do women about toxic males

You left out toxic women....

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 5:28pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 7:37am: Quote: Haven't missed her one bit. mothra will be devastated. Good ... how about you you lackey?  I enjoy very much discussing isues with mothra. Unlike so many here, mothra is educated, intelligent and articulate. Only a dickhead would ban her permanently for no reason. Plenty of of others from here debate on my board, from BigOle to DonDeeHippy to DRAH and a few others. You should have a look sometime.

Mothra may be educated, sometimes displays intellect, and is articulate.... no valid comparison with anyone else here....no demand for commonality in an all-encompassing forum that (generally) accepts all views.

It may well have been her 'Penguin' attitudes filled with prudery that caused her demise... I have no idea.

It is one thing to discuss in an educated fashion - it is another to display elitism through an alleged education, and to use that alleged education as a whip with which to scorn others and their views...

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:00pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 10:47pm: cods wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 6:56pm: You missed the whole chain there.... physical violence is predominantly the domain of women in relationships - studies abound on that simple reality - then they often I guess that why so many are dead... they start the trouble so they deserve death... got it?.. :D :D :D :D :D so many women outbox men.... its incredible. Physical violence, from countless studies, IS the domain of women in relationships - the OUTCOMES are, from countless studies, predominantly in favour of men. Furthermore - when you exert violence by proxy against one person in a dispute, who has already, in the majority of cases, been the initial victim - all you do is throw petrol on the fire and lay the groundwork for retaliation.  The further you go with proxy violence heaped on initial violence, the more you will experience a reaction.... THAT is what is causing the escalating war between women and men.... not just men per se - and government is primarily responsible for this crass stupidity. It would be nice, for once, if some of you fantasy-ridden ideologues/slaves of the propaganda machine would actually take a fair and reasoned look at reality. You're so far wrong, I don't know if I can summon the time or energy to respond And it's your obdurate attitude which leads to male on female violence when the woman is right and knows it, the male, using his superior strength, shuts her down using violence Listen, whomever you are, remember something here and for the rest of your life:  all men commenced life as females.  No exceptions.  All men commenced life as females and deep down, that rankles and burns Some of them are so unable to get over it that they spend the rest of their lives trying to deny that at bottom, they're women which is why men turn so easily to boofing other guys Yes, it has not escaped anyone's attention that gays outnumber lesbians by far and more men opt to become 'trans' than do women Men have a lot of problems which can only be solved via regularly spaced wars and even then, they utilize wars to rape, bash and kill women and children The reason things are growing steadily worse matches my prediction way back when the birth control Pill was still controversial :  once women have control of birth control, men will stick out their bottom lips, grab their bats and run -- to David Jones for frilly frocks men are fake women or modified females if that rolls more easily from the tongue

You're raving mad.

It's irrelevant that the early developing fetus is female per se ... until the male chromosome kicks in.

And the number of homosexual men being more than Lesbians ... do you have stats?

And why is that the vast majority of lesbian couples have 1 feminine partner & 1 butch man clothes wearing, jarhead US army haircut sporting bull dyke?

Pretending to play out a hetrosexual couples role.

You'd have to put out to make friends with either sex. :P

PZ547 wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:42pm:

Imrah wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:14pm: PZ547 wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:00pm: All men commenced life as females Where do the 'Y' chromosomes come from, professor? All men commence life as female

Stop talking shyte ..... all early developing human embryos start out as female ... until the genetically infused"Y" chromosome kicks in.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:51pm:

It is true. All fetuses start as female, hence males have nipples. they also have a vestigial vagina at the top of the scrotum there is an invagination. At a certain stage there is a wave of testosterone that halts the development of female characteristics. The Y chromosome in humans is shrinking in size over generations. No one knows why or what will happen when it loses even more genes.

You idiot testosterone isn't even there yet ... the development of male characteristics is started by the Y chromosome.

Testosterone is only produced once the testes are formed.  ::)

None so blind as they who refuse to see, or who have had their eyes struck out by ideologues with ceaseless propaganda.

Wage war on men then, without addressing the base issues of mutual responsibility - the results will be catastrophic for many.  Eventually even those men will realise who their true enemy is -- the state that deliberately fostered this endless war.

Until women accept their share or responsibility for irresponsible and selfish and often violent behaviour, and while ever the state exercises violence on men on the basis of some purported 'feeling', there will never be a solution to this mess.

We will NOT have a society governed and controlled by one-sided 'feelings'.....

Agnes wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 5:28pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 7:37am: Quote: Haven't missed her one bit. mothra will be devastated. Good ... how about you you lackey?  how did her name come into this AGAIN- eff oFf Monk-

He's Punch & Judying for her.

Her hand is up Monks jacksie so she can post her man hating shyte in here still.

Agnes wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 5:38pm:

Gnads wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 5:28pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 7:37am: Quote: Haven't missed her one bit. mothra will be devastated. Good ... how about you you lackey?  how did her name come into this AGAIN- eff oFf Monk-

dont do that agnes... monk has had permission from mothra to post this update on Domestic Violence....at ozpol... the reason for posting it here  we havent been told...

so I am assuming its to bring out the worst in ozpol members... we all know they have hugs and kisses at monks place every day....where as ozpol can be robust..... :D :D  apparently thats not good.... ::)

well as you can see we have had major discussion on Y chromosome  and everyone is on the same page   

too hard to read so I am trusting thats correct...

in the mean time this is about D.V.  and its cure....or at the very least some solutions maybe>

I would have thought by now monk with consultation with mothra would have had a list of solutions... ::) ::)

as you can see by the length of this thread a lot of interest   but NO SOLUTIONS>..

so I ask

what purpose was there in you starting this thread monk??????

Yes PZ 547 sounds a lot like Mothhag and monk knows she is getting around her ban-

agnes what has the Y chromosome got to do with DV?>>... :)

just hope someone can fill me in..I must have missed something.

cods wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 6:17pm:

agnes what has the Y chromosome got to do with DV?>>... :) just hope someone can fill me in..I must have missed something.

Didn't you ever see that movie, Stripes? 

Men have a 'Y' chromosome (and an 'X") and women don't.  If men are more proficient at violence than women, it is because they got it from their mothers.  The mothers who allowed that 'Y' chromosome to make a strong, healthy baby. Shame on those mothers.

PS:  If the government makes it mandatory that every male foetus must be aborted at rthe earliest possible appoinment with the right doctor, then we can irradicate all male violence in the world and at last be free to enjoy female violence galore until they all grow old and die too.  Easy peezy!

A lot of violent men have two Y chromosomes, XYY.

Imrah wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 6:21pm:

cods wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 6:17pm: agnes what has the Y chromosome got to do with DV?>>... :) just hope someone can fill me in..I must have missed something. Didn't you ever see that movie, Stripes?  Men have a 'Y' chromosome (and an 'X") and women don't.  If men are more proficient at violence than women, it is because they got it from their mothers.  The mothers who allowed that 'Y' chromosome to make a strong, healthy baby. Shame on those mothers. PS:  If the government makes it mandatory that every male foetus must be aborted at rthe earliest possible appoinment with the right doctor, then we can irradicate all male violence in the world and at last be free to enjoy female violence galore until they all grow old and die too.  Easy peezy!

so you learn everything from movies   good one 


however thats still doesnt tell me of a solution for this topic... unless we ban all movies... would that work?..

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 6:45pm:

A lot of violent men have two Y chromosomes, XYY.

so short of doing what imran says  kill all baby boys..

oh wait a minute that would be one cure to stopping DV wouldnt it??>..

what say you monk   you happy with that solution to your OP?

If there were no women then shortly after there would be no DV.


And a lot less whinging.

Why hasn't this trouble making little prick been banned? He waltzes round this forum with the sole intention of causing argument, along with his buddy arsie....... If he has his own forum of schit stirrers, there's only one reason he's on here........ ::)

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 6:45pm:

A lot of violent men have two Y chromosomes, XYY.

Oh mate!  I love you!  At last there is some truth here and I'm gonna celebrate, celebrate, celenbrate until the wee hours (after sunset) because of your wisdom and welcome integrity!

Yes, there is a quirk in God's little project that maybe described as some kind of arguably innocuous mutation in times of peace in our community.  There is only one 'Y' chromosome necesary in peacetime.

Do you know why some babies are born with an extra 'Y' chromosome?

I have long wondered why God would have made such a seemingly fruitless and redundant error, and there is nothing ever come to mind for me except the simple fact that WE are the winners of evolution.

We survived the wars between the greedy warmongers who have ruled over us and commanded our ancestors (pre-electronics) to climb up out of the trenches when inundated with enemy fire, be it arrows or spears or bullets, and run at the enemy with absolutely no regard for their own lives and be killed for the sake of someone else's greed.

Most of them got shot.  R.I.P. soldier.

We need those few violent men amongst us because like most red-blooded men, when they are young, they are genetically programmed to put the fate of their country before their own, and jeopardise their own lives, mostly fatally to win the war.

Men who have two 'Y' chromosomes are not welcome in peaceful societies, but without those violent men, there would not be any peaceful societies to not welcome them.  That is why God made that fateful mistake, some might say cheating on Its assignment, but that why we are still here and not speaking Japanese, for example.  It goes back through the ages. 

Natura non facit saltum.  Nature takes many generations to evolve.

We need those violent men with extra 'Y' chromosomes to do the things that 'X' chromosomes would never dream of, because that is why we are the Winners!

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Quote: Casting all men in the same category based on any accusation or emotional claim at all is a certainty to alienate and radicalise increasing numbers of them - and thus the very act of seeking to control violence by using violence is the cause of escalation and thus of the rising death toll. Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children. Spot

But that's just the point, they do.

Men are always seen as the evil bad ones.

Often the abuse starts with the female, the man simply by being stronger does more damage.

Let me pose this little question to you.

Imagine a small child walks onto the road.
A man picks up the child and looks around.

What is your honest first opinion, no BULL shite, what woukd your first thoughts be?

Now imagine the same scenario, but with a woman picking up the child and looking around.

What are you first thoughts this time?

Men are always seen as the aggressors.
Men are always seen as the bad guys.

I took my wife to the hospital a few years back.
He mouth was swollen and bleeding.
I was separated under the guise of filling in forms while they took her into triage.
She had a dry socket after a tooth extraction gone bad.

Only after she managed to explain was I allowed in.

Always men are seen as the bad guy.

cods wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 2:49pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 1:55pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 12:09pm: Btw Monk, you should have a bit more rape and dv at your joint to keep your clients happy and prevent them coming here for their daily fix. If you want to see a debate on this very topic conducted with sensitivity and respect than look here. (link is to the thread on my board.) thats all very noice monk... but which post  give answers to stopping this problem???>. can you tell what was the point of posting this in the first plac.e... did you and mothra just want people to come out and say   nah    men get picked on and women get away with murder..... ::) ::)   you have set yourself up to know a lot about DV.... so come on monk stop avoiding what solutions  have you come up with   we know DVOs   done stop murder...we know moving around doesnt stop murderers.... womens refuges doesnt stop anything... what do you think would stop it?? that hasnt already been tried.... getting into someones head.. is not an option.

I would say keep an talking about DV?

Do YOU have any ideas cods?

Womens refuges were working very well but some states defunded them, privatised them, lost all the expertise built up over the years and mixed ordinary homeless with battered wives.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 6:55pm:

If there were no women then shortly after there would be no DV. And a lot less whinging.

Bullshit -  lesbian relationships have the highest rate of DV, followed by gay relationships.  If you get clowns like that dopey lesbian feminist sheila talking about culling men, keeping them in cages and training them to behave, only taking them out for sex and procreation, and so forth.... I suppose, like that crap PZ posted below - they are only speaking metaphorically, same as that dopey Aboriginal sheila in Melbourne was...

If a man says the same things just to sling the same crap back, he's Satan Incarnate and called insane.

All of you people discussing these things need to grow up and look at the realities.

If you want to stop the war between men and women - tell the women to stop the war.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 7:37pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 6:55pm: If there were no women then shortly after there would be no DV. And a lot less whinging. Bullshit -  lesbian relationships have the highest rate of DV, followed by gay relationships.

Maybe that NRA mob in the 'States are onto something after all?

As the saying goes, God made all men, but Colonel Colt made them equal.

Agnes wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 6:08pm:

Yes PZ 547 sounds a lot like Mothhag and monk knows she is getting around her ban-

Bwahaha you never could tell who was behind a particular sock.

cods wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 6:17pm:

agnes what has the Y chromosome got to do with DV?>>... :) just hope someone can fill me in..I must have missed something.

There are two chromosomes that determine the sex of the fetus.

Mother donates an X chromosome, Father an X or a Y.

A female is XX, two X chromosomes, a male is XY.

A few males are XYY two male chromosomes and these individuals are violent.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 7:37pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 6:55pm: If there were no women then shortly after there would be no DV. And a lot less whinging. Bullshit -  lesbian relationships have the highest rate of DV, followed by gay relationships.  If you get clowns like that dopey lesbian feminist sheila talking about culling men, keeping them in cages and training them to behave, only taking them out for sex and procreation, and so forth.... I suppose, like that crap PZ posted below - they are only speaking metaphorically, same as that dopey Aboriginal sheila in Melbourne was... If a man says the same things just to sling the same crap back, he's Satan Incarnate and called insane. All of you people discussing these things need to grow up and look at the realities. If you want to stop the war between men and women - tell the women to stop the war.

No women, no human race before long.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 8:42pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 7:37pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 6:55pm: If there were no women then shortly after there would be no DV. And a lot less whinging. Bullshit -  lesbian relationships have the highest rate of DV, followed by gay relationships.  If you get clowns like that dopey lesbian feminist sheila talking about culling men, keeping them in cages and training them to behave, only taking them out for sex and procreation, and so forth.... I suppose, like that crap PZ posted below - they are only speaking metaphorically, same as that dopey Aboriginal sheila in Melbourne was... If a man says the same things just to sling the same crap back, he's Satan Incarnate and called insane. All of you people discussing these things need to grow up and look at the realities. If you want to stop the war between men and women - tell the women to stop the war. No women, no human race before long.

No men - no human race either.  Get with the program.

Let's cage women up, keep only the genetically excellent, and use them only for procuring eggs for reproduction in machines, then humanely euthenase them... won't hurt the gay men, and the rest can get a life-like robot.... a true Stepford Wife.... all female foetuses to be destroyed in vitro.... apart from the best kept for future reproduction...

Don't your kind hate it when the tables are turned on you?

Imagine somebody here having the damned gall to quote Andrea Dworkin - that lunatic lesbian feminist with nothing to recommend her...

The biggest problem with any discussion of issues around men and women these days is the number of lunatics  controlled by victim mentality and schizophrenia (just look at the eyes some time) who are handed far too much public notice and too much public funding and often an 'education' at the expense of everyone else, and whose views are somehow held up as being the only truth in town...

LOL XYY


Quote:

XYY syndrome is a genetic condition in which a male has an extra Y chromosome. Symptoms are usually few.  They may include being taller than average, acne, and an increased risk of learning problems. The person is generally otherwise normal, including normal fertility.

http://www.genomicseducation.ca/educationresources/young_scientists/floyd_questions/xyy_men.asp


Quote:

There is no evidence that XYY leads directly to criminal behaviour or violence.

Quote:

This is a dangerous misconception because no direct link has been made between aggression or criminal behaviour and an extra Y chromosome.

Grendel wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 10:37pm:

http://www.genomicseducation.ca/educationresources/young_scientists/floyd_questions/xyy_men.asp Quote: There is no evidence that XYY leads directly to criminal behaviour or violence. [quote]This is a dangerous misconception because no direct link has been made between aggression or criminal behaviour and an extra Y chromosome.

[/quote]

Just more hate-filled feminist bullshit.... wrought by women who are certifiably insane.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 8:40pm:

cods wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 6:17pm: agnes what has the Y chromosome got to do with DV?>>... :) just hope someone can fill me in..I must have missed something. There are two chromosomes that determine the sex of the fetus. Mother donates an X chromosome, Father an X or a Y. A female is XX, two X chromosomes, a male is XY. A few males are XYY two male chromosomes and these individuals are violent.

ah hummmmmmm   


I do not know of any SCIENCE that makes that claim monk.. where is your link


in fact I would think if that was the case they would know that before the child was born and would fix it in the womb..

sheeez they can operate on a fetus now amazing stuff they can do..

violence in case you havent noticed is on the increase  .

its started when good manners went out the window  and entitlement became the norm...its me me me...arrogant and rude  and with that comes anger and rage  followed by death in a lot of cases... 

so what solutions do you have monk?? you started this thread   you must have more to offer than just an extra Y......it doesnt do it for me I am afraid...

Valkie wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 7:12pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm: Quote: Casting all men in the same category based on any accusation or emotional claim at all is a certainty to alienate and radicalise increasing numbers of them - and thus the very act of seeking to control violence by using violence is the cause of escalation and thus of the rising death toll. Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children. Spot But that's just the point, they do. Men are always seen as the evil bad ones. Often the abuse starts with the female, the man simply by being stronger does more damage. Let me pose this little question to you. Imagine a small child walks onto the road. A man picks up the child and looks around. What is your honest first opinion, no BULL shite, what woukd your first thoughts be? Now imagine the same scenario, but with a woman picking up the child and looking around. What are you first thoughts this time? Men are always seen as the aggressors. Men are always seen as the bad guys. I took my wife to the hospital a few years back. He mouth was swollen and bleeding. I was separated under the guise of filling in forms while they took her into triage. She had a dry socket after a tooth extraction gone bad. Only after she managed to explain was I allowed in. Always men are seen as the bad guy.

Ironic. Valkie complaining about being stereotyped. No doubt though that people take one look at him and immediately judge him to be of an unsavoury character. Sleep with dogs and you get fleas.

Ahhh

It's back again

Nothing to contribute, just insults.

Get a life troll.

Valkie wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 7:12pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm: Quote: Casting all men in the same category based on any accusation or emotional claim at all is a certainty to alienate and radicalise increasing numbers of them - and thus the very act of seeking to control violence by using violence is the cause of escalation and thus of the rising death toll. Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children. Spot But that's just the point, they do. Men are always seen as the evil bad ones. Often the abuse starts with the female, the man simply by being stronger does more damage. Let me pose this little question to you. Imagine a small child walks onto the road. A man picks up the child and looks around. What is your honest first opinion, no BULL shite, what woukd your first thoughts be? Now imagine the same scenario, but with a woman picking up the child and looking around. What are you first thoughts this time? Men are always seen as the aggressors. Men are always seen as the bad guys. I took my wife to the hospital a few years back. He mouth was swollen and bleeding. I was separated under the guise of filling in forms while they took her into triage. She had a dry socket after a tooth extraction gone bad. Only after she managed to explain was I allowed in. Always men are seen as the bad guy.

You may be right but this isnt about that. Its about the murders.

Spot

women are more likely to hit men in a relationship
the stats are clear on that.
but thats probably not going to lead to an injury or a trip to the police.
because a man would look like a wimp if he fronted up with a 2 cm bruise.

the problem is that men are much thicker thru the chest and shoulders and if they hit a woman, the consequences are much more serious.

so a man is much more likely to seriously injure or kill a woman then the other way around.

there is no real way for a man to deal with an out of control woman.
men socialise each other that if someone gets out of control, other men will escalate to physical force.

but a man cannot use this threat on a woman.
the out of control woman is a very very tricky problem to solve.

if you have an out of control horse, then best sell it and cease the interaction.
i think thats the advice for men.
stay in emotional control (thats part of your duty as a carrier of masculine energy), have firm boundaries and if a woman crosses those boundaries, then cease the relationship.

this is sound advice

Why are so many people blaming the victims here? The dead victims?

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 7:00am:

Why are so many people blaming the victims here? The dead victims? Spot

this problem needs to be solved at the level of the individual.
there is only a limited role for government .
and government will always be just "picking up the pieces".

men need to learn to "handle their emotions" (so do women)
a man who cant handle his emotions, who becomes either a sook and a cry baby or angry and a bully is "dogsh**it".

and women and men need to learn strong personal boundaries about what behaviours they will and will not accept. if a man is incapable of mastering his emotions , he is unfit to breed from and should be left.
if a woman is out of control emotionally she is unfit to mother your children and should be left.

men should aim to be quality men and women should aim to be quality women.

the "us against them" narrative from the radical feminists is unhelpful.

men and women must work together to prosper.
(this is why i say bosses and employees are in an intimate relationship as well. if your boss is not behaving well , is angry or a bully, then leave,  dont go to a divisive "union ", just have the courage of your own status as a quality individual and leave) i cant see why people arent taught this

rhino wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 12:26am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 7:12pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm: Quote: Casting all men in the same category based on any accusation or emotional claim at all is a certainty to alienate and radicalise increasing numbers of them - and thus the very act of seeking to control violence by using violence is the cause of escalation and thus of the rising death toll. Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children. Spot But that's just the point, they do. Men are always seen as the evil bad ones. Often the abuse starts with the female, the man simply by being stronger does more damage. Let me pose this little question to you. Imagine a small child walks onto the road. A man picks up the child and looks around. What is your honest first opinion, no BULL shite, what woukd your first thoughts be? Now imagine the same scenario, but with a woman picking up the child and looking around. What are you first thoughts this time? Men are always seen as the aggressors. Men are always seen as the bad guys. I took my wife to the hospital a few years back. He mouth was swollen and bleeding. I was separated under the guise of filling in forms while they took her into triage. She had a dry socket after a tooth extraction gone bad. Only after she managed to explain was I allowed in. Always men are seen as the bad guy. Ironic. Valkie complaining about being stereotyped. No doubt though that people take one look at him and immediately judge him to be of an unsavoury character. Sleep with dogs and you get fleas.

its how the world has become rhino.... life has become quite awkward for male... school teachers.... sports coaches....even just walking near a   school... I feel sorry for men today.... but ask yourself   WHOS fault is that?.....not long ago a GRANDFATHER shot his whole family... are men losing the ability to cope???..

I find it hard to believe its overwhelming sadness that drives this......  taking a family members  life   takes us all to another level....

its sad for real men who wouldnt hurt anyone.   but your wife was in safe hands...and it is probably the rules of the hospital.....nothing personal intended

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 6^th, 2018 at 11:00pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 10:37pm: http://www.genomicseducation.ca/educationresources/young_scientists/floyd_questions/xyy_men.asp Quote: There is no evidence that XYY leads directly to criminal behaviour or violence. [quote]This is a dangerous misconception because no direct link has been made between aggression or criminal behaviour and an extra Y chromosome.

Just more hate-filled feminist bullshit.... wrought by women who are certifiably insane.
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And Monk...  he would not make an attractive woman. :D

Last night after teaching, I had  very young girl ran up to me at the end of the night and she gave me a great big hug, whilst I was still seated.  It was a complete surprise, really nice and spontaneous...  I smiled at first but then started thinking negatively at how some may view this...  completely ruined the moment for me.

So what is the truth about men and murder?  You need a lot of stats and realistic controls etc, etc before you can make bald claims about this...  the person who started the topic says 1 in 1000 men are violent due to having xyy...  a myth...  the vast majority of men...  the vast majority of humans...  are not violent and do not commit murder.

If you were to look at prison populations you would find XYY men overrepresented.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 8:52am:

If you were to look at prison populations you would find XYY men overrepresented.

Oh dear, but not all due to violence etc, etc...  if you bothered to do some research or even read what the link I posted says you'd realise what stupidity there is in your opinion.

The experts back me... ::)

this is for grap..

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/the-unspoken-truth-of-domestic-violence-in-australia/news-story/cdbf1ec6c5b1d78bacd7340514d17a2b

IF you really wanted to reduce domestic violence you would improve relationships between men and women.

If you really wanted to improve those relationships, the last thing you would do is entrench a system where one side was always treated like a victim and one like a perpetrator.

Everyone knows that is not the truth of any marriage or relationship. It takes two to tango. And what is barely mentioned in all the hyperbole about domestic violence is that more than one third of victims are male.

Yet, the self-serving feminist myth that conflict is always entirely the fault of men, with women the virtuous victims has captured the domestic violence industry and corrupted marriage counselling.

No one knows that better than Rob Tiller, a couples counsellor at Relationships Australia for eight years, who was forced to resign in March after posting an article by Bettina Arndt on a private Facebook page, pointing out the statistics on domestic violence show women are perpetrators too.

He also shared the article in a closed group email with a men’s network of fellow counsellors. One of those men, who holds a PhD in gender studies, took screenshots of the conversations and maliciously forwarded them him to his employer.

Tiller says his bosses claimed Arndt’s article “violated” RA’s domestic violence policy which is “historically framed by a feminist analysis of gendered power relations”.

“Saying there’s violence on both sides is a taboo subject,” he says from his home in Perth.

“You have to say men are perpetrators and women are victims. [But] having spent my career observing provocative, aggressive and violent behaviours from both partners, I couldn’t continue denying my own professional experience.”

Tiller is claiming unfair dismissal against RAWA in the Fair Work Commission, although his bosses claim he resigned of his own accord.

He was the only male in his Perth office and the most sought-after counsellor. He has helped hundreds of couples repair their relationships, not to mention protect their children from the lifelong negative effects of family breakdown.

But to be so successful he had to be honest about human nature, and deal with the reality he saw in his work, of women’s role in domestic violence.

“Domestic violence is a serious problem but what I’m seeing is the conversation, culturally, is not representative of what’s been going on in the family home,” he says.

“We’re human beings and we all have a dark side. It hurts the people we care about.

“I’m not saying men don’t act out in the wrong way. I’m not excusing bad behaviour or violence but generally it’s emotional dis-regulation on both sides.

“Two people and their inability to manage conflict effectively so they both have their specific ways of escalating the conflict and someone starts swinging and it gets ugly. At least half the time she throws the first swing …

“We can’t continue sweeping the bad behaviour of women under the rug because that leads to community breakdown”.

Arndt, the clinical psychologist-turned-social commentator whose article caused Tiller so much bother, is now leading a crowd-funding campaign to pay for his legal costs.

She has done more than anyone to try to puncture the myth that domestic violence is a male-only problem.

“Feminist domestic violence policies are rampant in key organisations throughout the country. But 40 years of research shows family violence is two way and they systematically deny that’s the case.”

She and Tiller have since been contacted by men and women complaining of anti-male basis at RA: “People are shocked that counsellors didn’t give their male partners a fair hearing.”

Tiller sees lavishly government-funded anti-domestic violence campaigns which demonise men as dangerously counter-productive.
If you get a culture saying men are inherently violent, emotionally stupid, not good communicators and they’re internalising it, then their positive sense of self keeps shrinking and when you have a man walking around who doesn’t respect himself he’s more likely to have addiction problems, and not be very good in relationships.”

Tiller considers his speciality as “translating the male perspective to the female and vice versa”. He tries to give both partners a fair hearing, and encourages both the man and the woman to take responsibility for making their relationship work.

While males can be more overtly confrontational, “female behaviour can be a bit more subtle, maybe passive-aggressive, but equally destructive.

“Men and women are equally bad at relating with each other, that’s been my observation.”

Demonising the male partner, as required by feminist orthodoxy, doesn’t work in real life.

Tiller says his counselling sessions are more effective when he calls out both sides for destructive behaviour.

“Generally, she’s positive and I’ve won major street cred with the guy, so he becomes a lot more invested in the process. I’m going to train him to hold his own assertively, not aggressively, and next session I confront him in a therapeutic way and they both build trust in me. It doesn’t take long to get them into a lot better place even if they’ve been entrenching bad habits for decades.

“I’m a pragmatic therapist. I want to get results.”

But getting results isn’t the aim of the domestic violence industry.

If

cont.

But getting results isn’t the aim of the domestic violence industry.

If it was, then instead of demonising all boys and men, funding would be concentrated in the violence hot spots of indigenous and welfare communities where generational despair and substance abuse have created a Hobbesian nightmare, where women are bashed in broad daylight, two-year olds are gang raped, and no one bats an eyelid.



two sides to every story....

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5^th, 2018 at 7:04pm:

Because murder of partners/former partners goes on, cods, that is why I posted that for mothra. And I will keep posting DV facts until the idiots here are silent and maybe some sensible discussion can happen.

You are probably the least qualified on this forum to talk about it ( women) not being a lover of women yourself- garden  gnomes and women are not sympatico- anyway I think if this MothHAG person was so intelligent how did she manage to get herself banned and now trying to enlist frustrated goons like you and Aussie to have her unbanned- its sad and pathetic to watch- anyone agitating for her should also be banned-she obviously broke FDs internet and thats all there is to it- you are spreading her tired old message and no one here is sympathetic to your cause- the ' we hate men message is hateful and unhelpful"- hate begets more hate- you are betraying your own sex- what do you call that-??? sounds like duck but starts with C-


You are unhappy here Monk- time to leave

Hello dearest Agnes.

We do not know why mothra and JS were banned, darling.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 12:04pm:

Hello dearest Agnes. We do not know why mothra and JS were banned, darling.

   this forum better off without both of them so NO  I dont care a fig- fDs call and it was a good one

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 12:04pm:

Hello dearest Agnes. We do not know why mothra and JS were banned, darling.

and since when has FD or any mod given the reason for anyones ban- its never happened- MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND GO PLAY WITH THEM IN YOUR JOINT- YOU ARE HERE 24/7- YOU DON'T EVEN LIKE THEM DIPSTICK :o :o :o :o :o

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 8:52am:

If you were to look at prison populations you would find XYY men overrepresented.

what the hell would you know- dummy- how many effing eggs are you short of a scramble ~ ? idjit  !!!!

Hello Sweetness and BliLight?

Got the preparations for the avocado tree on hand?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 12:45pm:

Hello Sweetness and BliLight? Got the preparations for the avocado tree on hand?

LOL- anyway stop stirring shiit- ok? and no I havent- things getting in the way

But I like stirring schit.

I think too much schit is not challenged.

You should be ready to plant your new tree in August at the latest.

Agnes wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 12:34pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 8:52am: If you were to look at prison populations you would find XYY men overrepresented. what the hell would you know- dummy- how many effing eggs are you short of a scramble ~ ? idjit  !!!!

monk is getting lessons from mothra agnes....he now knows everything... ;D ;D ;D

I saw your comment on


Quote:

the ' we hate men message is hateful and unhelpful"

your right I dont HATE MEN   I dont hold them responsible for all our ailments....yep even DV...
some do like to perpetuate that message..

its all mens fault   they murder dont they.... ::) ::)

weve talked about this so often.but what annoys the crap out of me... they never try to fix the problems.... they just want to see people get up each other so they can sneer about their reactions elsewhere....


the facts are!women do get away with a lot of bitter poo....I have personal  knowledge of women who keep the children away from the father deliberately over and over....... they are not good women or good mothers....but the law panders to them....

they dish out a lot of hurt and frustration....and yes they can push men too far......

and that all gets swept under the carpet when a crime is committed   ..there is no excuse for murder.....

:( :(

Here you go Honeybunch:

http://perrysfruitnursery.com.au/our-trees/

They sell avocado trees.

The woman who along with her four children was killed in WA wrote a poem about the ordeal she and her children suffered at the hands of her husband before she finally left him

Mother and children listening in terror at teh sound of the husband's car returning to the home late at night.  The children begging their mother not to say or do anything.  The drunken male fists flying around, the mother smashed face first into the wall, the children terrified, trying to get between them to break it up even though the father was the only one being violent and aggressive

Millions of people in this country alone would read it and it would cast them back to their own childhood or years spent trying to keep the peace for the sake of the kids. Mothers yelling at her kids to 'run'.  And off they'd go in the dark in bare feet, terrified, guilty because they'd left their mother back at the house to bear the brunt of it.  Crawling back inside, frozen.  The dog cowering under the house after another kicking.  The mother collapsed against the wall, her clothing torn, face and body livid with bruises, her hair in clumps on the floor

Those kids, endless generations of them, grow up with PTSD, although to them it's their normal state of mind.  Long after they've escaped the brutal father & destroyed mother, those kids (now adult) still cringe involuntarily and raise their arm protectively to their head and face if someone moves quickly towards them or raises their voice.  They're embarrassed and ashamed when people stare as result.  Some of those walking wounded hold senior positions.  They attend therapy, they practice self-improvement and self-help.  They want to move past the hell of their childhood, but for most it never leaves.  Part of them remains permanently trapped in the horrors they experienced.  It rises to the surface when they're stressed.  It destroys their relationships and careers.  There's a sadness in them that nothing can lift

Men did that to them as a rule. Drunks quite often.  Drunks who claim in court that their wife 'provoked' them into violence.  They claim they 'couldn't help themselves' from responding to the alleged 'provocation' with physical violence

Ah.  Yes.  They were in the pub for four hours and in all that time, none of those GUYS in the pub provoked them

Strange then that a terrified woman and kids unleashed that storm of punches, fists, belts, axe handles and other accoutrements of the bully once he's home

What a shame he didn't lay his fists on those guys at the pub.  Wonder why he didn't?  Maybe because the guys at the pub would have laid him out?  I think so

So it's the bitch who's at fault for provoking him.  The dinner's too cold.  Or he doesn't like the 'look on her face'.  Maybe she dared to say 'hello' when he entered, all stroppy, testosterone reaching boiling pitch after his long, insane drive home as he raged at some guy at the pub or in the street who'd delivered some real or imagined slight

Oh yeah.  He can hardly wait to arrive home to see their white, terrified faces.  The kids out of bed, warned by the sound of his vehicle & now trembling

Sometimes one of the kids tries to head the coming storm off at the pass by saying 'G'day Dad.  You want a drink? ' -- trying to save his mother

But nothing stops the male whose blood is up and who's
eager to deliver pain

Next day he pretends to be in a bad mood to shut them up

One or two nights later he enjoys his carnage-stoked orgasm again

Anyone who's been even close to it knows what it's like.  Maybe people in this forum slinked off to school the next morning, shamed by neighbours stares and already formulating the excuse they'll give the teachers for the whip marks on their legs, the bruises on their arms and cheeks, the patches of missing hair

In the middle of the 20th century, the only thing a woman could take with her if she left a brutal husband was her sewing machine.  Men's rules. In Queensland it wasn't until 1988 that the police would deign to become involved in 'domestics'.  For decades, those coppers had enjoyed dismissing bruised and bleeding wives and kids who came to them for help.  'Can't help you luv.  Not unless he's killed or seriously injured someone '. No govt. allowance back then that would allow women and their children to exist independently, in poverty but relative peace and safety.  The wife usually had to crawl back to the beast for the sake of putting a roof over her kids' heads

Male violence against women, children and those weaker will only cease when the beasts are forced to cease. They're not going to voluntarily stop.  They enjoy it too much. They consider it their right

Life with hard labour would go some way to curb it, although pity any smaller, weaker man incarcerated alongside them

People who work in any capacity where they are required to deal with the public are 'provoked' several times an hour or day --- but they manage to control themselves, don't they?  So don't blame the victims of male/domestic violence.  Put the blame where it belongs.  Mete out appropriate punishment.  Get kids away from that environment.  Protect the victims.  And a lot less bleeding-heart nonsense expended on the beasts.  As a society we cannot afford those beasts, bullies, cowards, throw-backs.  They cause far more damage than wars, greater number of casualties and permanent mental health crises


And grog plays a major role.  A major role in unleashing the animals' sicknesses

Agnes wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 5th, 2018 at 7:04pm: Because murder of partners/former partners goes on, cods, that is why I posted that for mothra. And I will keep posting DV facts until the idiots here are silent and maybe some sensible discussion can happen. You are probably the least qualified on this forum to talk about it ( women) not being a lover of women yourself- garden  gnomes and women are not sympatico- anyway I think if this MothHAG person was so intelligent how did she manage to get herself banned and now trying to enlist frustrated goons like you and Aussie to have her unbanned- its sad and pathetic to watch- anyone agitating for her should also be banned-she obviously broke FDs internet and thats all there is to it- you are spreading her tired old message and no one here is sympathetic to your cause- the ' we hate men message is hateful and unhelpful"- hate begets more hate- you are betraying your own sex- what do you call that-??? sounds like duck but starts with C- You are unhappy here Monk- time to leave

what is a cuck ? :D :D

we have come a long way PZ....fair go...a lot of women do leave the bruites now  we have provided shelter and money....

what is sad... we havent really learnt to live with each other....   grog does play a role  thats for sure...

but why?    why do people brutalise each other..?? what does it solve??? nothing that I know of..

Nice post PZ547

(Forum wont let me reply to you or quote you)

Spot

cods wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 8:02am:

rhino wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 12:26am: Valkie wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 7:12pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 6th, 2018 at 2:21pm: Quote: Casting all men in the same category based on any accusation or emotional claim at all is a certainty to alienate and radicalise increasing numbers of them - and thus the very act of seeking to control violence by using violence is the cause of escalation and thus of the rising death toll. Nobody is casting all men in the same catagory. What is being cast is all men that murder their partners and/or children. Spot But that's just the point, they do. Men are always seen as the evil bad ones. Often the abuse starts with the female, the man simply by being stronger does more damage. Let me pose this little question to you. Imagine a small child walks onto the road. A man picks up the child and looks around. What is your honest first opinion, no BULL shite, what woukd your first thoughts be? Now imagine the same scenario, but with a woman picking up the child and looking around. What are you first thoughts this time? Men are always seen as the aggressors. Men are always seen as the bad guys. I took my wife to the hospital a few years back. He mouth was swollen and bleeding. I was separated under the guise of filling in forms while they took her into triage. She had a dry socket after a tooth extraction gone bad. Only after she managed to explain was I allowed in. Always men are seen as the bad guy. Ironic. Valkie complaining about being stereotyped. No doubt though that people take one look at him and immediately judge him to be of an unsavoury character. Sleep with dogs and you get fleas. its how the world has become rhino.... life has become quite awkward for male... school teachers.... sports coaches....even just walking near a   school... I feel sorry for men today.... but ask yourself   WHOS fault is that?.....not long ago a GRANDFATHER shot his whole family... are men losing the ability to cope???.. I find it hard to believe its overwhelming sadness that drives this......  taking a family members  life   takes us all to another level.... its sad for real men who wouldnt hurt anyone.   but your wife was in safe hands...and it is probably the rules of the hospital.....nothing personal intended

However Valkie is tagged I have no doubt he brings it on himself, constantly spewing mindless bile and hatred will only reinforce peoples negative view of him.

PZ547 wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 1:39pm:

The woman who along with her four children was killed in WA wrote a poem about the ordeal she and her children suffered at the hands of her husband before she finally left him. . . .

mothra asked me to say:

Quote:

[your] post was incredibly evocative and moving and indeed, how it is for far too many people.

I second that.

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 4:45pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 1:39pm: The woman who along with her four children was killed in WA wrote a poem about the ordeal she and her children suffered at the hands of her husband before she finally left him. . . . mothra asked me to say: Quote: [your] post was incredibly evocative and moving and indeed, how it is for far too many people. I second that.

moth hag  has no cockles and hates it-

Not that you are shallow tho, right Fungus?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 5:18pm:

Not that you are shallow tho, right Fungus?

not that you have a cock or anything like it Monk- or know whats its used for even ?

So you ARE both shallow AND stupid?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 5:23pm:

So you ARE both shallow AND stupid?

so you are drunk / stupid and on THC-

No, but you ARE both shallow and stupid!

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Agnes wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 5:21pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7th, 2018 at 5:18pm: Not that you are shallow tho, right Fungus? not that you have a cock or anything like it Monk- or know whats its used for even ?

answer this dear

A number of posters have hit on the issue in passing, but not quite passing, but not quite the root cause.

In a good relationship, there in no reason for violence, let alone murder.

So what is it that drive two people, who at one stage must have loved each other, to the point of violence or even murder.

Think this through people
You may really really dislike your neighbor,  but would you kill him/ her?

You may hate that base turd that CUT you off, robbed you perhaps even attacked you, but could you find enough hate to kill them?

And yet two people who used to love each other find this, or are driven to it.

Look at what most couples fight over.
Finances, the lack of money.
And our wonderful grubberment take more and more and allow multinationals to rape us blind.

Some of us were very lucky and found our soul mates, but even then, there were times of stress.
A good relationship use love to get through the hard times, because when it all comes down to it, no one else will help you.

Yes Valkie, the world needs more roots.

Speak to Fungus, she hasn’t had any for ages. Her garden is all sand you see.

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Lack of roots is a sad thing, eh Fungus?

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I told you a looong time ago, I like women. You said that was great.

What causes loss of memory? Dementia, the bottle, being a bitch. . .?

Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2018 at 6:31pm:

I told you a looong time ago, I like women. You said that was great. What causes loss of memory? Dementia, the bottle, being a bitch. . .?

Such hateful self talk is destsructive-

I remember the occasion, you don’t. You are the pisspot/thc user!

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We have never met in real life and we never will.


Bye.

.

I have never met fungus in my life.

LOL-   ;) ;) ;)

The way this discussion has gone shows how people can be driven to murder..... people taking points off one another with no thought for the consequences....