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Title: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by FRED. on May 17th, 2018 at 11:16am
;)'Aboriginal' redacted from birth, death, marriage certificates after being deemed an offensive term
By Rebecca Turner Updated 22 minutes ago Garry Smith sits on his lounge, holding documents which he claims have whitewashed his family history. PHOTO: Garry Smith says his family's historical records have been whitewashed. (ABC News: Rebecca Turner) RELATED STORY: Doubts cast over Noongar genealogy planRELATED STORY: Labor promises funding for Indigenous teachers A West Australian bureaucrat has deemed the use of the term "Aboriginal" may be regarded as offensive and exercised a little-known power to redact it from birth, death and marriage certificates. This means historians, native title claim groups and members of the public may be spending up to $49 to buy a document which may have historical detail like Aboriginality removed without their knowledge. It has shocked historians, who were unaware of the practice and say Aboriginal is considered by most to be an inclusive term. Aboriginal is a commonly-used term by governments around Australia, with several states — including WA — boasting ministers for Aboriginal affairs. Emeritus professor of history at the University of Western Australia Jenny Gregory said she would write to the WA Attorney-General to request the practice be stopped. Dr Gregory, who is also the president of the History Council of WA, said it was bizarre that the registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages was determining what people could know about their ancestors. "Way back in the past people might have hidden their Aboriginality … it's now a source of pride for many people of Aboriginal descent today," she said. "In my view, and I think most historians would agree with this, the registrar is tampering with history. "He's making, if you like, fake histories." Practice stirs up painful memories Like many other local historians contacted by the ABC, Dr Gregory was unaware that the registrar has the legislative authority to issue a certificate without a term they regard could be offensive. It was brought to the ABC's attention by two keen family historians, Perth man Garry Smith and his Queensland-based cousin, John Chandler. About five years ago, Mr Smith were researching his history online and discovered documents about to his father's aunt and grandmother, which referred to them as "Aboriginal Jane" and "Kitty Aboriginal". He visited the Registry of Births, Deaths and Marriages in Perth to buy copies of the certificates and was horrified to discover the word Aboriginal had been whited out. Tattooed hands show the difference between the original birth certificate with the label Aboriginal and the redacted version. PHOTO: Mr Smith points to the original birth certificate using the label Aboriginal (left) and the redacted version (right). (ABC News: Rebecca Turner) He claims a staff member told him the term was offensive and had been removed. Mr Smith, who does not consider the term Aboriginal offensive, was told he would have to fill out a statutory declaration to get a copy of the original document with the correct wording. He said the experience made him feel sick, as if he should feel ashamed for being Aboriginal. "If you're Aboriginal, it's offensive and deemed offensive — but the government calls us Aboriginals," he said. For Mr Chandler, it was particularly painful to discover his identity in his middle-age and then have it removed by a bureaucrat. He was brought up as "Spanish-Irish" because his gr |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by .JaSin. on May 17th, 2018 at 11:23am
And if a Republic is created where 'everyone' is made 'equal', it doesn't matter if you're first or last.
Will the word 'Aboriginal' denounce anyone who is also 'born' of this land? The use of 'Native' Amerindians to 'denounce' others as having the right to be accepted by 'birth' of USA land, results in their own 'rejection' as being 'American'. Republic = Australians Aboriginal & British = Non-Australian |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by freediver on May 17th, 2018 at 12:41pm
The government should not be playing the race card.
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Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Ye Grappler on May 17th, 2018 at 12:47pm freediver wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 12:41pm:
It seems they are removing it here - at what point are they right? I must admit this is an intriguing issue... removing reference to Aboriginality from a birth certificate, but then I always was told that Boongs rely on a verbal history... Lots of people have some Boong in them - I mean - in 1914 the Australian population was 64% men - would have to be a lot of Lubra shagging going on, or the nation was heavily gay... no wonder those French and Egyptian houses of ill repute did a roaring trade between 1914 and 1918 .... Even the ugliest and least White sheila could get a bang.... like falling off a log... I sometimes wonder if there could be a boong in the family woodpile.... maybe I could mek a lend claim, bro... I wonder why some people make it such a big deal to be part Boong... it was just a throw between the sheets.... many on both sides of the argument wouldn't be here without a little illicit or un-sociable shagging... ;D Look at Johnny Depp - part White, part Amerinidian, and part Black.... and who honestly gives a damn? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Rhino on May 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm freediver wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 12:41pm:
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Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by freediver on May 17th, 2018 at 1:05pm rhino wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm:
Yes. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 4:59pm freediver wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 12:41pm:
First the Boongs want to ban you walking on their rock, now they want to charge you $49 to get their Bong documents. How racist can you get? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 5:21pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 4:59pm:
All I've got is a birth certificate that has basic information. That's what people get. What right do they have to their own detailed info that sets them apart? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by issuevoter on May 17th, 2018 at 5:36pm Jasin wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 11:23am:
What exact constitutional amendments do you propose, or are you just going to throw around the word "Republic," and leave it up to Canberra? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Ye Grappler on May 17th, 2018 at 6:57pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 4:59pm:
Since when was it 'their' rock, Kaffir Luvvah? It belongs to Australia.... not some self-appointed group who never owned it in any way or did anything more than a few climb it just like everyone else, claiming a 'spiritual experience' - well gee golly whiz wow..... Since when is it their rock? Because some idiots in politics or public service decided they could get them 'working' by setting it up as a tourist attraction and then handing them the rights to operate it? :-? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 7:11pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 5:21pm:
Does your birth certificate say you're white? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 7:13pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 6:57pm:
Since the Hawke government gave it to them. I know, I know, so unfair. And so racist. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 7:16pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:11pm:
nope. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 7:17pm rhino wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm:
What about Spanish-Irish? That should be okay. And not racist. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 7:18pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:16pm:
So how do we know you're not tinted? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 7:20pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:18pm:
Because I don't go through life blaming whitey for my problems. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Gnads on May 17th, 2018 at 7:23pm
Absolute stupidity.
Noongars must be a dumb bunch. Everything regarding govt ... i.e Do you identify as being of Aboriginal & Islander descent? Jobs all over the country are advertised specifically worded the same. Gary Smith says documents have white washed his family history .... I'd say that's because his family are white & not Aboriginal or Native Australian. Stupid whining fool. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Gnads on May 17th, 2018 at 7:26pm rhino wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 1:03pm:
So why should their so called race play a part in their identification for govt services or for affirmative action/ ethnic group preference in higher education or employment positions? Stop pointing that gun at your foot. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 7:27pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:20pm:
Don't you blame the Muselman? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 7:29pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:27pm:
I blame their religion which isn't a person. I have nothing against good muslim people. Only the freaks. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Gnads on May 17th, 2018 at 7:31pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 7:35pm Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:31pm:
I've met some nice Muslim people. I had a mate who was Turkish Muslim and we used to get on the piss. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 7:37pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:29pm:
Oh, I see. How about the tree loppers? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 7:40pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:37pm:
He was a decent bloke. Just a pain in the ass. He moved out actually. If I had my way I don't know if I'd have Islam in our country. I don't trust it's presence. It produces a an over supply of dickheads which are a future problem. I wouldn't even have Africans here actually. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 7:45pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:40pm:
A future problem? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 7:48pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:45pm:
Because most Muslims believe that their religion should be number one. It doesn't sit well with me. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 7:50pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:48pm:
Your Turkish mate? The tree-lopper? Who? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 7:58pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:50pm:
No. A bloke I worked with. He hate Jews with a passion though. Liked porn, drinking scotch and smoking cigars. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 8:03pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:58pm:
That's haram, Homo, but you live in Western Sydney, so you know all about the Muselman. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 8:06pm
I do Rambo. I see them and talk with them in some way all of the time. Some are approachable and some don't want to know you. A lot of that going on with some migrant groups.
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Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 8:32pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 8:06pm:
You like all the races, Homo, that's just the sort of guy you are. We're not racist. We're from Western Sydney, no? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 8:35pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 8:32pm:
I feel most at home with my own people actually . Aussies. The Indians, Muslims etc feel the same way. It's just the way it is. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 9:09pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 8:35pm:
That's true, Homo. You and I get along just fine, and do you know? We're both white. Hardly rocket science, is it? You can deal with chaps like me in the fullness of time, dear. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Mr Hammer on May 17th, 2018 at 9:19pm Mattyfisk wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 9:09pm:
I said aussies, not leftards. Leftards like you hate aussies. |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Karnal on May 17th, 2018 at 9:24pm Mr Hammer wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
Aussies? We have an Aussie here, Homo. He's married to a Curry. Some of my best friends are Aussies, dear. I live in Western Sydney. You? |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Ye Grappler on May 17th, 2018 at 10:47pm
Assymetric Warfare - get 'em all on your side and you don't even have to fight... they'll do it for you...
Used that when working as a bouncer... if anyone played up the whole crowd would be onside .... not like some who went at it hammer and tongs and Rambo'd it.... and everybody hated them... |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Rhino on May 18th, 2018 at 12:54am Gnads wrote on May 17th, 2018 at 7:26pm:
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Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by mozzaok on May 18th, 2018 at 8:09am
I do not understand the whole indigenous identity claiming garbage.
If I found out I was 1/32 Estonian, I would not feel the overwhelming urge to declare my estonianality, and start barracking for crap eurovision singers. I am happy being australian, and have never identified as anything else. My first forefathers came here in 1834, from England, and the most recent was my Nan, who came from Scotland in 1913. She married a 2nd gen aussie from Irish stock, and Dad's side were Poms way back, with French coming in thanks to the revolution. So one french, one scottish, and the rest Irish and English, makes me an Aussie. Oui? Och aye! |
Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Bojack Horseman on May 18th, 2018 at 10:50am
Can we delete this thread or at least change the title
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Title: Re: The BOONG'S IN WA WHITE WASHED Post by Ye Grappler on May 18th, 2018 at 11:02am mozzaok wrote on May 18th, 2018 at 8:09am:
Ya godda lend claim in Scotland an' such, bro? No more tourists kissing the Blarney Stone, now... fenced off like Ayers Rock as a Sacred Site....close off Stonehenge.... bloody tourists pissing in the water holes.... no more tourists to Enniskillen/Tara where me Irish ancestors came from (part of the ancient Irish royalty)... throwing rubbish in the river... fenced off for good.... Old Germany now... well ... no more river cruises and such, look what they've done to the water... fenced off as a Sacred Site the old Rhine ... climb the Eiffel Tower? Bloody Infidels.... insulting French heritage there... guillotine 'em .... My ancestors are German, Irish, Scottish, and one Pom... with this lovely olive skin, gotta be a Wop in there somewhere....maybe a Chink or an Indo.... not sure yet... my mother said US Indian somewhere and somehow in their travels... who knows... |
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