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Title: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by miketrees on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/perth-80yearold-to-be-deported-after-serving-25-years-for-murder/news-story/4cef638ef6887b7f349fa0ec9eff1156

An 80-year-old man who has served 25 years in a Perth jail for the murder of 14-year-old Sharon Lee Mason will be deported back to the UK, says WA Attorney-General John Quigley.

Arthur Boycott Greer was convicted of the crime that haunted Perth after the schoolgirl disappeared in 1983 on her way home to the Perth southern suburb of Mosman Park. Nearly a decade after her disappearance, Sharon’s body was discovered in 1992 by a bobcat operator carrying out earthworks behind a clothing shop formerly owned by Greer.

Greer had a long criminal record and was found guilty of the girl’s murder after two trials. But Greer always denied the prosecution’s case that Sharon had entered his shop looking for casual work.

This bloke should either never have been let into Australia, or should have been booted out after his first offence.

More blood on the Apologists hands

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Mr Hammer on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

he should have paid a people smuggler and burnt his papers.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Fuzzball on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:06pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

Weren't you born here pessary?

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by DonDeeHippy on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:14pm

ohh my computer doesn't like that link.....
https://myaccount2.news.com.au/content/sorry.html
that keeps coming up.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:15pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

he should have paid a people smuggler and burnt his papers.

I'm not sure why the question is being asked in the first place.

What circumstances would have stopped him from being allowed to enter Australia?

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Mr Hammer on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

he should have paid a people smuggler and burnt his papers.

I'm not sure why the question is being asked in the first place.

What circumstances would have stopped him from being allowed to enter Australia?

Probably nothing back before 1983. I can't get the link to work so I can't get any background. We were pretty relaxed about immigration back in the day. I'm just glad he's going.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:22pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

he should have paid a people smuggler and burnt his papers.

I'm not sure why the question is being asked in the first place.

What circumstances would have stopped him from being allowed to enter Australia?

Probably nothing back before 1983. I can't get the link to work so I can't get any background. We were pretty relaxed about immigration back in the day. I'm just glad he's going.

What?

Relaxed about what?

He's an immigrant from the UK - why would that prevent him entering Australia?

What on Earth is the OP on about?

Surely he's not suggesting that immigration officers should have been able to look into the future and see that he was going to murder someone :-/

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by tickleandrose on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:35pm

I have no idea who was an apologist for what. Perhaps its a brain snap? For perhaps miketrees thought that he had a long criminal history prior to coming to Australia, and got let in regardless?

And also, can someone confirm that back then you don't need a visa to come into Australia from England right?

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Mr Hammer on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

he should have paid a people smuggler and burnt his papers.

I'm not sure why the question is being asked in the first place.

What circumstances would have stopped him from being allowed to enter Australia?

Probably nothing back before 1983. I can't get the link to work so I can't get any background. We were pretty relaxed about immigration back in the day. I'm just glad he's going.

Well if he had a prior record he wouldn't get in now. That's the point I was alluding to about our relaxed earlier immigration policies.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2018 at 2:42pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

he should have paid a people smuggler and burnt his papers.

I'm not sure why the question is being asked in the first place.

What circumstances would have stopped him from being allowed to enter Australia?

Probably nothing back before 1983. I can't get the link to work so I can't get any background. We were pretty relaxed about immigration back in the day. I'm just glad he's going.

Well if he had a prior record he wouldn't get in now. That's the point I was alluding to about our relaxed earlier immigration policies.

Who said he had a prior record before coming to Australia?

I haven't read that anywhere, and that's why I'm a little confused about the thread title.

What does the OP know about the murderer, that we don't know, that would have prevented him from being able to enter Australia?

I still don't get it.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by miketrees on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:15pm

ohh my computer doesn't like that link.....
https://myaccount2.news.com.au/content/sorry.html
that keeps coming up.

Those links work for me, but I think i have to try twice, I get a blank page first go.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Mr Hammer on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 2:42pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

he should have paid a people smuggler and burnt his papers.

I'm not sure why the question is being asked in the first place.

What circumstances would have stopped him from being allowed to enter Australia?

Probably nothing back before 1983. I can't get the link to work so I can't get any background. We were pretty relaxed about immigration back in the day. I'm just glad he's going.

Well if he had a prior record he wouldn't get in now. That's the point I was alluding to about our relaxed earlier immigration policies.

I'm not saying he had a prior. He might have. What I'm saying is that Australia had a very relaxed immigration policy in the past. Here's a story- my mate was a antique dealer for years and he purchased a full SS uniform (Hitler Youth dagger and all) from a former SS soldier who lived in Fairfield Sydney. Now if he could get out here anybody could. This is why we are having such a bad Lebbo problem.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by .JaSin. on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:51pm

BRITAIN SENDS 'CRIMINALS' TO AUSTRALIA ...since 1788.

Australians take 'PRIDE' in their 'criminal' past.
(take pride in murder, etc).

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by longweekend58 on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Mr Hammer on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:58pm

Jasin wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:51pm:

BRITAIN SENDS 'CRIMINALS' TO AUSTRALIA ...since 1788.

Australians take 'PRIDE' in their 'criminal' past.
(take pride in murder, etc).

They didn't have a choice Jasin. It was forced immigration.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:59pm

Jasin wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:51pm:

BRITAIN SENDS 'CRIMINALS' TO AUSTRALIA ...since 1788.

Australians take 'PRIDE' in their 'criminal' past.
(take pride in murder, etc).

He The bastard murdered the girl here in Australia, though.

I've seen nothing that says he was a criminal in the UK.

Thus, the thread title makes no sense.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:03pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Exactly my point.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Mr Hammer on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:03pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Exactly my point.

I'd love to know if he did have a criminal history before he came here. Most psychos start young. There's a job for you Pecca- find out the truth.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Mr Hammer on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:09pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Where does it say he had no criminal record in the UK?

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Where does it say he had no criminal record in the UK?

The onus is on you(or the OP) to show that he did have a criminal record in the UK.

I've read nothing that says he did.

The thread title "How did this arsehole get into oz" is meaningless.

He got in by plane, I guess. Or maybe a boat.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by longweekend58 on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:19pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Where does it say he had no criminal record in the UK?

he wouldnt have been able to live here if he had one that involved violence or sex.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Mr Hammer on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:21pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Where does it say he had no criminal record in the UK?

he wouldnt have been able to live here if he had one that involved violence or sex.

They were pretty relaxed back in the day. There were no computers to look a record up before the 80's.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by greggerypeccary on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:23pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Where does it say he had no criminal record in the UK?

he wouldnt have been able to live here if he had one that involved violence or sex.

They were pretty relaxed back in the day. There were no computers to look a record up before the 80's.

Who said he had a criminal record in the UK?

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Mr Hammer on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Where does it say he had no criminal record in the UK?

he wouldnt have been able to live here if he had one that involved violence or sex.

They were pretty relaxed back in the day. There were no computers to look a record up before the 80's.

Who said he had a criminal record in the UK?

I looked him up and he's from Belfast. If he came out here in the 60's or 70's it probably had something to do with the troubles. The IRA or the Unionists executed bad crimos. Especially sexual psychos. I'd like to know his history but I can't find it. So many people were getting put in the can in Northern Ireland during the 60's and 70's it's probably impossible to find anyway. Bad crims just don't get to 60 and decide to do a bunch of serious crime. He'd have a history for sure. All bad crims do.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by longweekend58 on May 10^th, 2018 at 5:26pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:21pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:09pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Where does it say he had no criminal record in the UK?

he wouldnt have been able to live here if he had one that involved violence or sex.

They were pretty relaxed back in the day. There were no computers to look a record up before the 80's.

Who said he had a criminal record in the UK?

so basically you are saying he doesnt have a criminal record and that is how he got in.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by miketrees on May 10^th, 2018 at 6:19pm

Knob heads,, its simple.

He would not have got a record in prison.

So He had a record, apparently. So if he got it in UK he should have stayed there, if he got the record here he should have been sent back there.

Its not #@cking rocket surgery.

Either way he should not have been in Australia murdering people.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Ye Grappler on May 11^th, 2018 at 12:31am

Bobby... Bobby - paging Bobby .......

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Valkie on May 11^th, 2018 at 5:57am

Mr Hammer wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 4:03pm:

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Exactly my point.

I'd love to know if he did have a criminal history before he came here. Most psychos start young. There's a job for you Pecca- find out the truth.

It's fairly standard for reffos to be criminal before they come to Australia

That's why they destroy their documents

They are criminals who are fleeing arrest for things like rape and murder.

Then they come to Australia and start afresh

But they can't help themselves and soon get involved in the same activities as before.

That's why so many reffos keep getting arrested for perverted practices.

The scum of the earth

Muzzos who rape and murder
Perverted Indians
Sexual assault
The list goes on
And the Australian grubberment want to bring more here.

What is wrong with our grubberment?

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Gnads on May 11^th, 2018 at 11:52am

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:15pm:

You have to subscribe to the Australian.

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Rhino on May 11^th, 2018 at 12:32pm

longweekend58 wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

miketrees wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 12:54pm:

Without a time machine, how are you supposed to know that someone WILL commit a crime ahead of time especially without a criminal record?

Howe do you know he had no criminal record?

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Alinta on May 11^th, 2018 at 12:54pm

I can't find info that categorically states he had criminal history in Ireland.

This is the best I can locate. Transcripts of the NSW cases would be possibly be useful clarification but as they're so old, I can't get hold of them without payment.

To me, the quote below is ambiguous:

.....It turned out that "Paddy" Greer, a volatile character who had arrived in Australia in the 1960's from Belfast, had a substantial criminal record including two counts of sexual assault and an attempted murder conviction in NSW."

https://www.pressreader.com/australia/the-sunday-times/20171224/283326112719618

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Ye Grappler on May 12^th, 2018 at 5:38pm

On a plane with a passport and a visa.... that's how most of them get in. The boaties are rarely if ever criminals and such. 8-)

Title: Re: How did this arsehole get into oz
Post by Karnal on May 12^th, 2018 at 6:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 10^th, 2018 at 1:03pm:

"How did this arsehole get into oz"

The same way as every other immigrant from the UK, I'm guessing.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.