It's the Oligarchy's Policy

Did anyone watch Q&A last night, it turns out that our immigration policy is NOT our government’s policy but rather the policy of the corporates, I guess they kill two birds with one stone, it keeps salary and wages flat while maintaining an ever increasing market.

I think all our politicians need a few hard stiff back handers across the moushe......... :D

I have to admit I dont watch the silly show...

but I would think  well it makes sense to me.. that the govt would need input from big business if they are the employers!

whats the point of allowing a heap of plumbers to migrate here when we need.miners??>..or vice versa..... I am not saying they have all the power but I would think its not just BIG business its the small farmers as well...that employ the migrants...

everyday someone retires...or leaves the workforce...we cant wait for children to grow up to fill in for them...

cods wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:33pm:

I have to admit I dont watch the silly show... but I would think  well it makes sense to me.. that the govt would need input from big business if they are the employers! whats the point of allowing a heap of plumbers to migrate here when we need.miners??>..or vice versa..... I am not saying they have all the power but I would think its not just BIG business its the small farmers as well...that employ the migrants... everyday someone retires...or leaves the workforce...we cant wait for children to grow up to fill in for them...

You do realise that for many Australians the retirement age(pension eligibility) has been pushed out to 67 years of age .....

and that your Tory mates want to make it 70 yrs of age?

How does that benefit our youth looking for employment?

Our unemployment is at record levels despite what govt. propaganda quotes.

We don't need migrant workers ... skilled or unskilled.

We need to reinstate TAFE & to support apprenticeships ......

but sadly our politicians ....mainly your mob have virtually killed industry & therefore apprenticeships.

Our unemployed youth are being hidden & wasted in Universities doing worthless courses.

And the importation of people who, hate us, don't want to work or integrate either continues.

cods wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:33pm:

I have to admit I dont watch the silly show... but I would think  well it makes sense to me.. that the govt would need input from big business if they are the employers! whats the point of allowing a heap of plumbers to migrate here when we need.miners??>..or vice versa..... I am not saying they have all the power but I would think its not just BIG business its the small farmers as well...that employ the migrants... everyday someone retires...or leaves the workforce...we cant wait for children to grow up to fill in for them...

They need to listen to the experts, if big companies struggle to find employees importing certain types of immigrants even under the 457 taking such input is important but not the deciding factor.

Is it a short term issue or long term ..... its all part of the decision process but at a macro level there is only so much population growth we can absorb without problems.

I good seeing them finally admit it. Greedy people selling our country out for the mighty buck.

The quota is 190K every year.

I'm sure within the first year farmers needs would be fulfilled with the visa workers amongst that 190K.

Thats' how we're going to get to 40 million by 2050 every year 190K cause that's what the oligarchy want.....?!?!?!

Gnads wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:48pm:

You do realise that for many Australians the retirement age(pension eligibility) has been pushed out to 67 years of age ..... and that your Tory mates want to make it 70 yrs of age?

You do realise that the current preservation age is 58 pushing out to 60?

You can access your super pension at the preservation age. Then morph onto the age pension when you qualify.?

Talk to your super specialist.

Ajax wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 6:04pm:

The quota is 190K every year. I'm sure within the first year farmers needs would be fulfilled with the visa workers amongst that 190K. Thats' how we're going to get to 40 million by 2050 every year 190K cause that's what the oligarchy want.....?!?!?!

Yes & it's a dumb idea.

* deleted referenced wrong reply

Gnads wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 6:09pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:04pm: The quota is 190K every year. I'm sure within the first year farmers needs would be fulfilled with the visa workers amongst that 190K. Thats' how we're going to get to 40 million by 2050 every year 190K cause that's what the oligarchy want.....?!?!?! Yes & it's a dumb idea.

Bad for us, good for the oligarchy keeps salaries and wages flat and increases the market all the time.

Ajax wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

It's the Oligarchy's Policy Did anyone watch Q&A last night, it turns out that our immigration policy is NOT our government’s policy but rather the policy of the corporates, I guess they kill two birds with one stone, it keeps salary and wages flat while maintaining an ever increasing market. I think all our politicians need a few hard stiff back handers across the moushe......... :D

No there is no such thing as the Oligarchy. That is just conspiracy theory nonsense.

Big business and property speculators want more population as it gives them more customers.

Politicians want more population as it artificially increases GDP growth and they also receive large "donations" (ie bribes) from the said big business and property developers.

RightSaidFred wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:49pm:

cods wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:33pm: I have to admit I dont watch the silly show... but I would think  well it makes sense to me.. that the govt would need input from big business if they are the employers! whats the point of allowing a heap of plumbers to migrate here when we need.miners??>..or vice versa..... I am not saying they have all the power but I would think its not just BIG business its the small farmers as well...that employ the migrants... everyday someone retires...or leaves the workforce...we cant wait for children to grow up to fill in for them... They need to listen to the experts, if big companies struggle to find employees importing certain types of immigrants even under the 457 taking such input is important but not the deciding factor. Is it a short term issue or long term ..... its all part of the decision process but at a macro level there is only so much population growth we can absorb without problems.

Yes - damned hard to find good staff in Australia already qualified and ready to go... must be something to do with not speaking the same falcon language or not being at one with the company's cultural issues...

Here ya go:-
http://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/Trav/Work/Work/Skills-assessment-and-assessing-authorities/skilled-occupations-lists/combined-stsol-mltssl

It seems we even need air conditioning mechanics..... airline pilots .... miners -now there's a beauty... can't get those here apparently,so the unemployed a/c mechanics, pilots and miners sit on the dole and worry about a job.....

Companies may put their view - by NO means are they EVER entitled to make the rules.....

Oh... lookee here - ambulance officers..... nurses.... carpenters ....

It seems there are just so many job vacancies that can't be filled without getting in offshore people...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InaRIYFPMiY

What superb irony.

The big end of town in blazing agreement with the scummy virtue signalling queer bastard left orientated freaks.

(The working left are not the same as the above mentioned left)

Hard working left wing people get exploited by the scummy virtue signalling queer bastard left orientated freaks.

Ajax wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

It's the Oligarchy's Policy Did anyone watch Q&A last night, it turns out that our immigration policy is NOT our government’s policy but rather the policy of the corporates, I guess they kill two birds with one stone, it keeps salary and wages flat while maintaining an ever increasing market. I think all our politicians need a few hard stiff back handers across the moushe......... :D

A very interesting admission, and a very good discussion. It's the discussion going on in Sydney now, and the media are largely ignoring it.

DRAIN THE SWAMP, no?

Ajax wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 6:04pm:

The quota is 190K every year. I'm sure within the first year farmers needs would be fulfilled with the visa workers amongst that 190K. Thats' how we're going to get to 40 million by 2050 every year 190K cause that's what the oligarchy want.....?!?!?!

They're just the skilled migrants. It doesn't include the foreign students, spousal visas, 457s, and the breeders' kids, who make up 60% of the population boom.

BUILD THE WALL.

Ajax wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Gnads wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:09pm: Ajax wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:04pm: The quota is 190K every year. I'm sure within the first year farmers needs would be fulfilled with the visa workers amongst that 190K. Thats' how we're going to get to 40 million by 2050 every year 190K cause that's what the oligarchy want.....?!?!?! Yes & it's a dumb idea. Bad for us, good for the oligarchy keeps salaries and wages flat and increases the market all the time.

It also dilutes the Patriots and those who take pride in being an Aussie. Not like half the traitors on here.
Immigrants don't give a crap about us and this country.

Captain Caveman wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 11:04am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:11pm: Gnads wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:09pm: Ajax wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:04pm: The quota is 190K every year. I'm sure within the first year farmers needs would be fulfilled with the visa workers amongst that 190K. Thats' how we're going to get to 40 million by 2050 every year 190K cause that's what the oligarchy want.....?!?!?! Yes & it's a dumb idea. Bad for us, good for the oligarchy keeps salaries and wages flat and increases the market all the time. It also dilutes the Patriots and those who take pride in being an Aussie. Not like half the traitors on here. Immigrants don't give a crap about us and this country.

Certain immigrant demographics don't give a crap about us and this country.

lee wrote on Mar 13^th, 2018 at 6:08pm:

Gnads wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:48pm: You do realise that for many Australians the retirement age(pension eligibility) has been pushed out to 67 years of age ..... and that your Tory mates want to make it 70 yrs of age? You do realise that the current preservation age is 58 pushing out to 60? You can access your super pension at the preservation age. Then morph onto the age pension when you qualify.? Talk to your super specialist.

Most ppl at that age now dont have enough super yet

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 1:49pm:

lee wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 6:08pm: Gnads wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:48pm: You do realise that for many Australians the retirement age(pension eligibility) has been pushed out to 67 years of age ..... and that your Tory mates want to make it 70 yrs of age? You do realise that the current preservation age is 58 pushing out to 60? You can access your super pension at the preservation age. Then morph onto the age pension when you qualify.? Talk to your super specialist. Most ppl at that age now dont have enough super yet Spot

That's right Spot

My preservation age was 55 but I set it to 60 because taking super before 60 meant it was taxed again.

I turn 62 in May & still do not have enough in my super.

I will have to stay working until 65 then I have another year & a half before I have reached pension eligibility.

The clowns in govt. want you to be self funding in retirement yet control how much you are allowed to put in ...... Labor increased the combined employer & employee contributions from $25k per year to $35k per year & as soon as the LNP got in they reduced it back to $25k.

No wonder people end up on the pension anyway.

Idiots in my opinion.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 1:49pm:

Most ppl at that age now dont have enough super yet

Really? Got figures for people that age?

Read what I said above.

Depends what "enough" is. The figures quoted as required by the so called experts are ridiculous. I know someone with over a mil in super who thinks he doesnt have enough.

Gnads wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:07pm:

Read what I said above.

No figures there.

Politics of division, innit?  The LNP bring in more third worlders than Labrador does, and then whine about Labrador and 'open borders' which never existed.

rhino wrote on Mar 15^th, 2018 at 2:07pm:

Depends what "enough" is. The figures quoted as required by the so called experts are ridiculous. I know someone with over a mil in super who thinks he doesnt have enough.

It might not be enough. Things are expensive nowadays. You have to live the rest of your life on it. After paying off your mortgage (or worse paying rent forever) there isnt a million left for electricity and food etc.

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Mar 16^th, 2018 at 12:19pm:

rhino wrote on Mar 15th, 2018 at 2:07pm: Depends what "enough" is. The figures quoted as required by the so called experts are ridiculous. I know someone with over a mil in super who thinks he doesnt have enough. It might not be enough. Things are expensive nowadays. You have to live the rest of your life on it. After paying off your mortgage (or worse paying rent forever) there isnt a million left for electricity and food etc. Spot

You do realise if that happens and their income  and assets drop below the necessary level, they become eligible for the pension?

What is the amount of money in super above which you are not eligible for the pension AT ALL even if you are pensionable aged?

It would depend on the asset mix.

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 14^th, 2018 at 8:52pm:

Ajax wrote on Mar 13th, 2018 at 5:26pm: It's the Oligarchy's Policy Did anyone watch Q&A last night, it turns out that our immigration policy is NOT our government’s policy but rather the policy of the corporates, I guess they kill two birds with one stone, it keeps salary and wages flat while maintaining an ever increasing market. I think all our politicians need a few hard stiff back handers across the moushe......... :D No there is no such thing as the Oligarchy. That is just conspiracy theory nonsense. Big business and property speculators want more population as it gives them more customers. Politicians want more population as it artificially increases GDP growth and they also receive large "donations" (ie bribes) from the said big business and property developers.

You better get with the times barnacle there is such a word as the oligarchy and its all too real no conspiracy theories here mate

As you are experiencing at this very moment and you can see with your own eyes and ears that they (they oligarchy)  are responsible for setting the quota on our immigration policy which affects us all directly.

So then why do we have governments.....???

The oligarchy through plutocracy rule every nation on Earth bar Russia, China, Iran and Nth Korea.

Ajax wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 8:48am:

You better get with the times barnacle there is such a word as the oligarchy and its all too real no conspiracy theories here mate As you are experiencing at this very moment and you can see with your own eyes and ears that they (they oligarchy)  are responsible for setting the quota on our immigration policy which affects us all directly. So then why do we have governments.....??? The oligarchy through plutocracy rule every nation on Earth bar Russia, China, Iran and Nth Korea.

There is such a word as "Fairy" too, but that doesn't mean that they live at the bottom of the garden.

Oligarchy - a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few.

Russia, China, Iran and Nth Korea are among the few countries that ARE ruled by an Oligarchy. But there is no "world oligarchy" and please don't spam us with graphs, youtude clips and other meaningless discredited nonsense like you do with the global warming threads.

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 10:01am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 17th, 2018 at 8:48am: You better get with the times barnacle there is such a word as the oligarchy and its all too real no conspiracy theories here mate As you are experiencing at this very moment and you can see with your own eyes and ears that they (they oligarchy)  are responsible for setting the quota on our immigration policy which affects us all directly. So then why do we have governments.....??? The oligarchy through plutocracy rule every nation on Earth bar Russia, China, Iran and Nth Korea. There is such a word as "Fairy" too, but that doesn't mean that they live at the bottom of the garden. Oligarchy - a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few. Russia, China, Iran and Nth Korea are among the few countries that ARE ruled by an Oligarchy. But there is no "world oligarchy" and please don't spam us with graphs, youtude clips and other meaningless discredited nonsense like you do with the global warming threads.

Semantics now is it, well maybe I should have used aristocracy but I did say through plutocracy so there can be no reason for ambiguity or to misconstrue as to whom I’m referring to.

Besides l like using oligarchy it rolls of the tongue much better.

Now run along with the faithful to worship your local AGW bishop and pay homage to Saint Gore saviour of this world.

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 17^th, 2018 at 10:01am:

Ajax wrote on Mar 17th, 2018 at 8:48am: You better get with the times barnacle there is such a word as the oligarchy and its all too real no conspiracy theories here mate As you are experiencing at this very moment and you can see with your own eyes and ears that they (they oligarchy)  are responsible for setting the quota on our immigration policy which affects us all directly. So then why do we have governments.....??? The oligarchy through plutocracy rule every nation on Earth bar Russia, China, Iran and Nth Korea. There is such a word as "Fairy" too, but that doesn't mean that they live at the bottom of the garden. Oligarchy - a form of government in which all power is vested in a few persons or in a dominant class or clique; government by the few. Russia, China, Iran and Nth Korea are among the few countries that ARE ruled by an Oligarchy. But there is no "world oligarchy" and please don't spam us with graphs, youtude clips and other meaningless discredited nonsense like you do with the global warming threads.

You people are so......blind.

The rulers even tell you to your face.....yet you deny this.


Answer me this.
Who owns the money of the world?