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Message started by bogarde73 on Feb 9th, 2018 at 7:40am

Title: 74,000 years ago
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 9th, 2018 at 7:40am
The Toba volcanic winter did not decimate or disrupt human population in East Africa according to Uni of Arizona scientists.
Studies of vegetation before & after the event have shown no significant changes.

So that would have to suggest there would be no interruption to the out of Africa spread of modern humans?

:Popular Archaeology

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:47am
74,000 years ago, the Sahara was probably undergoing a greening phase with plentiful rainfall. The Toba eruption would not have altered that fact. Possibly the eruption might have been a result of climatic conditions.

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by Setanta on Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:50am

UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 1:47am:
74,000 years ago, the Sahara was probably undergoing a greening phase with plentiful rainfall. The Toba eruption would not have altered that fact. Possibly the eruption might have been a result of climatic conditions.


That's probably arse about, just saying.

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by UnSubRocky on Feb 11th, 2018 at 2:14am
Admittedly, I am too tired to do any real thinking (never mind research on the topic). Tomorrow night, I will probably be back editing my posts, feeling a little embarrassed at what I typed tonight.

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 11th, 2018 at 3:38am
The First Fleet arrived and while they were swimming in the Hawkesbury, the local Kaffirs sneaked down and stole their clothes?

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 11th, 2018 at 7:14am
This thread was my little essay towards debunking the multiple homo sapiens evolution hypothesis, which I can't subscribe to.

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by The_Barnacle on Feb 11th, 2018 at 11:05am

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 7:14am:
This thread was my little essay towards debunking the multiple homo sapiens evolution hypothesis, which I can't subscribe to.


I'm glad you clarified the point you were trying to make because you misrepresented the Arizona scientists

you said


Quote:
The Toba volcanic winter


The Arizona scientists said


Quote:
The Toba supereruption on the island of Sumatra about 74,000 years ago did not cause a six-year-long 'volcanic winter'


here is the link

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/02/180206151850.htm

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 11th, 2018 at 11:12am
I said:
"The Toba volcanic winter did not decimate or disrupt human population in East Africa according to Uni of Arizona scientists.
Studies of vegetation before & after the event have shown no significant changes."

. .which is a fair summary of what the article in Popular Archaeology said.

Why do you truncate what I said?
Are you the Inspector-General for Pedantry or something?

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by The_Barnacle on Feb 11th, 2018 at 11:22am
Because there was no Tuba volcanic winter

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 11th, 2018 at 11:28am
The article I saw didn't say that. There may have been one that affected the northern hemisphere only like the one around 1817. It didn't say that either.
What it was concentrating on was that the eruption didn't affect vegetation, and therefore sustenance, for the human populations in East Africa.

Your Gold Star for Trying Hard in Nitpickery is in the mail.

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 11th, 2018 at 11:55am
How come the Chinkers look different etc.... pure Darwinism?

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:17pm
Don't know, but I don't think that's the same kind of evolutionary step as the leap from Homo Erectus (or whatever the penultimate species was) to Homo Sapiens.
Where are the multiple evolution location theorists? I'm interested in the odds of that occuring.

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by Setanta on Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:09pm

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:17pm:
Don't know, but I don't think that's the same kind of evolutionary step as the leap from Homo Erectus (or whatever the penultimate species was) to Homo Sapiens.
Where are the multiple evolution location theorists? I'm interested in the odds of that occuring.


Can I ask what is the multi location theory is? We originated in Africa like all hominids but we have different admixtures of other hominids outside Africa and developed somewhat in isolation from each other. Pretty sure Europeans did not meet up with the Han until the early bronze age and the domestication of horses. We did not all evolve as one group. East Asians have Denisovian DNA, Europeans have Neanderthal DNA and the sub Saharan Africans have neither. All these populations were developing separately. What exactly are you at odds with?

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by freediver on Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:19pm
Didn't boges do this in another thread recently? He started saying things about out of Africa theories, but he does not know anything at all about them. He'll just direct you to some random website if you ask any questions.

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 12th, 2018 at 3:48am

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:17pm:
Don't know, but I don't think that's the same kind of evolutionary step as the leap from Homo Erectus (or whatever the penultimate species was) to Homo Sapiens.
Where are the multiple evolution location theorists? I'm interested in the odds of that occuring.



According to some websites I'm an alien, since I have Rh- blood type and a few other characteristics.... could be something in it... there's a belief system for just about everything and going back in human history etc and the development of "modern" man, there are many questions including alien invasion..... bloody Captain Cook bastards..... the RH+s want their lend back...

Say - the Sherpas aren't putting a Whitey Proof Fence around Everest, are they?

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by Ye Grappler on Feb 12th, 2018 at 3:49am

freediver wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:19pm:
Didn't boges do this in another thread recently? He started saying things about out of Africa theories, but he does not know anything at all about them. He'll just direct you to some random website if you ask any questions.


He's probably thinking of Louts of Africa ....

And there was no Whitey Proof Fence on Ayers Rock.... that's a modern invention by some with too much time on their hands....

Title: Re: 74,000 years ago
Post by bogarde73 on Feb 12th, 2018 at 12:14pm

Setanta wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 10:09pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Feb 11th, 2018 at 12:17pm:
Don't know, but I don't think that's the same kind of evolutionary step as the leap from Homo Erectus (or whatever the penultimate species was) to Homo Sapiens.
Where are the multiple evolution location theorists? I'm interested in the odds of that occuring.


Can I ask what is the multi location theory is? We originated in Africa like all hominids but we have different admixtures of other hominids outside Africa and developed somewhat in isolation from each other. Pretty sure Europeans did not meet up with the Han until the early bronze age and the domestication of horses. We did not all evolve as one group. East Asians have Denisovian DNA, Europeans have Neanderthal DNA and the sub Saharan Africans have neither. All these populations were developing separately. What exactly are you at odds with?


I'm not "at odds" about anything.
When the most recent hominid remains were found I started a thread about out if Africa.
And during the course of that I seem to remember people suggesting multiple locations for the emergence of homo sapiens.
I just wanted to follow that up, being interested and not aware of other than the out of Africa theory.

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