Once again the Australian Appeals Tribunal over-turns Peter Dutton's order to have a violent criminal deported.

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"Minister for Immigration and Border Protection Peter Dutton fought the decision.

A delegate of Mr Dutton's argued the man was a danger to the community and refused his request for a protection visa.

AAT deputy president Brian Rayment overturned that decision".

Apparently Dutton enjoys sending people to their death.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 8:23am:

[quote]Elected politicians being stymied by bureaucrats.

This decision making process should not be the option of a politician in the first place.

Dutton is a child in politics... and is not alone there.  It is the place of the relevant government organisation to make those decisions, and they are not the personal province of an elected representative or minister.

It seems that the LNP in particular is pursuing some form of the 'cult of personality' and is seeking to dupe the voting public into thinking that the Gauleiter for anything has some ultimate power and right.  This is a very dangerous path to tread and leads directly to despotism and arbitrary control over anyone at any time, with or without valid reason, by a very small minority who assume they know better.

We are supposed to assume that Dutton is some kind of omnipotent 'man on a horse' who can dictate every move of his appointed fiefdom..... I personally find him laughable....

Such an approach is decidedly anti-democratic.

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Dnarever wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 8:23am:

Apparently Dutton enjoys sending people to their death.

"The man, known only as BHKM, claimed he could face extrajudicial killing if he was deported back to the Philippines, the Herald Sun reported. "

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5265929/Ice-addict-wins-appeal-against-deportation-Philippines.html#ixzz547h0IPTS

So now we can't deport in case they are subject to vigilante justice? Bizarre.

lee wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 12:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 8:23am: Apparently Dutton enjoys sending people to their death. "The man, known only as BHKM, claimed he could face extrajudicial killing if he was deported back to the Philippines, the Herald Sun reported. " http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5265929/Ice-addict-wins-appeal-against-deportation-Philippines.html#ixzz547h0IPTS So now we can't deport in case they are subject to vigilante justice? Bizarre.

BKHM?  Boho Karam?  :D

Dutton is deporting these criminals for a very good reason, they represent a real danger to the Australian Public

So what if the crim is scared for his life in the Philippines, better for them to have him there than here

Its called Karma

Dutton is there to show leadership in his role as Minister, and final decisions are left to his discretion as it has always been no matter what party has been in office. It's called 'Ministerial Discretion'.

He's entirely correct to rid this country of a serial offender who has been a blight and a criminal parasite upon Australian society for all of his life.



 

I'm sure our immigration program is only there just to keep the cops and the courts in work

There's a lot of "New Australians" getting booked lately. "Enriching" is taking on a new meaning, but it's anyone's guess what it is

This bureaucracy was established by not just individual politicians, but acts of elected governments, with the explicit intention of restricting the essentially bureaucratic power of individual MPs. While it is not part of the court system, it is a good analog of the judiciary and it's decisions are subject to judicial review.

Peter Dutton's intention to have this recidivist criminal returned to the Philippines did not transgress any laws, and so the decision of the AAT has been purely one of exercising whimsical discretion in the same way as Parole Boards operate.

The AAT has no more moral or judicial superiority with their subjective decisions than does Peter Dutton, and it's time this collection of un-elected liberal-progressives was stripped of its powers except in the most extreme of cases. There wouldn't be a solitary individual working for the AAT who isn't a committed Lefty of the sort who work for the ABC.

   

What about the ferals in the Senate blocking govt legislation ?

freediver wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 6:44pm:

This bureaucracy was established by not just individual politicians, but acts of elected governments, with the explicit intention of restricting the essentially bureaucratic power of individual MPs. While it is not part of the court system, it is a good analog of the judiciary and it's decisions are subject to judicial review.

In a nut shell!!!

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juliar wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 10:20pm:

What about the ferals in the Senate blocking govt legislation ?

What about the Senate blocking feral govt legislation?

The government could disband it overnight if they wanted to. But not Peter Dutton acting on his own. I expect they do not want to be perceived as responsible if this dealer gets lynched.

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 8:27am:

The government could disband it overnight if they wanted to. But not Peter Dutton acting on his own. I expect they do not want to be perceived as responsible if this dealer gets lynched.

This druggie will be okay in the Philippines if he makes sure to have nothing to do with illicit drugs.

There are 50,000 confessed druggies in the Philippines who are perfectly safe and are being rehabilitated by government agencies. Those who have come forward to declare themselves hooked on drugs need not fear any retribution once they have been enlisted into the recovery programs.

Dnarever wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 8:23am:

Apparently Dutton enjoys sending people to their death.

If it's the right people, I have no issue with him.

How many lives did this Filipino ruin during his years of supplying drugs to hopeless addicts?

Why are we giving the Philippines Australian tax-payer money to the tune of $85,000,000 this last financial year if our government is horrified that they have the Death Penalty over there?

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 5:19pm:

Dutton is there to show leadership in his role as Minister, and final decisions are left to his discretion as it has always been no matter what party has been in office. It's called 'Ministerial Discretion'. He's entirely correct to rid this country of a serial offender who has been a blight and a criminal parasite upon Australian society for all of his life.

Total and utter crap. WHat about 'oversight' and 'accountability'

Gee the Grappler is grappling with the ferals. What an absurd parroting response.

Lord Herbert wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:15am:

freediver wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 8:27am: The government could disband it overnight if they wanted to. But not Peter Dutton acting on his own. I expect they do not want to be perceived as responsible if this dealer gets lynched. This druggie will be okay in the Philippines if he makes sure to have nothing to do with illicit drugs. There are 50,000 confessed druggies in the Philippines who are perfectly safe and are being rehabilitated by government agencies. Those who have come forward to declare themselves hooked on drugs need not fear any retribution once they have been enlisted into the recovery programs.

That's the addicts. The dealers are not as safe.

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:08pm:

That's the addicts. The dealers are not as safe.

Dealers who aren't addicts themselves are as scarce as hens teeth.

This fellow has no history of dealing in the Philippines. He's safe as houses so long as he keeps his nose clean and stays away from the drugs racket.

So now he stays here, and as a recidivist criminal no-hoper he'll no doubt continue to victimise the Australian public now that he has been encouraged to believe he's a Protected Species never to face anything worse than comfortable periods of 'recess' in our First World high quality jails.