Now this is an interesting read!

https://www.thedailybeast.com/whats-really-behind-indias-rape-crisis

They don't keep it to themselves when they migrate to Australia, either. Dinner with my 17-year-old daughter gets ruined if another table is filled with Indian men. The last time, my daughter was treated with stares and lustful looks and sounds of them agreeing in unison that my daughter needs a good gang rape. Giving them an "eyes front" gesture to get them to look back to their own business does not last long. They just get back to looking when they think I have lost attention to them. Had my daughter's boyfriend been there instead of me, he would probably give those guys the physical beating they deserve.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:19am:

They don't keep it to themselves when they migrate to Australia, either. Dinner with my 17-year-old daughter gets ruined if another table is filled with Indian men. The last time, my daughter was treated with stares and lustful looks and sounds of them agreeing in unison that my daughter needs a good gang rape. Giving them an "eyes front" gesture to get them to look back to their own business does not last long. They just get back to looking when they think I have lost attention to them. Had my daughter's boyfriend been there instead of me, he would probably give those guys the physical beating they deserve.

If he had taken his eyes off her, the darkies would have pack-raped her in a flash. He wouldn't be able to marry her then. You'd be stuck with her.

I could have beaten the stuffing out of them. My daughter's boyfriend is a gym junkie and he would have created more havoc without remorse by himself against them. Heck, even my daughter can throw a good punch.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:40am:

I could have beaten the stuffing out of them.

Why didn't you? If they're going to look at our women like that, they deserve everything they get.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:55am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 1:40am: I could have beaten the stuffing out of them. Why didn't you? If they're going to look at our women like that, they deserve everything they get.

It is considered assault if you do that. They would have to make some kind of verbal threat or action that can be interpreted as a threat before I can make a first act of violence. Even then, I would have to show cause to make the first move.

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:30am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 1:55am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 1:40am: I could have beaten the stuffing out of them. Why didn't you? If they're going to look at our women like that, they deserve everything they get. It is considered assault if you do that. They would have to make some kind of verbal threat or action that can be interpreted as a threat before I can make a first act of violence. Even then, I would have to show cause to make the first move.

You forgot the most important part... If you did...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHjfC780Mm4

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:30am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 1:55am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 1:40am: I could have beaten the stuffing out of them. Why didn't you? If they're going to look at our women like that, they deserve everything they get. It is considered assault if you do that. They would have to make some kind of verbal threat or action that can be interpreted as a threat before I can make a first act of violence. Even then, I would have to show cause to make the first move.

They're just Curries, for fck's sake. They're not going to stand up to an Aussie bloke - or his women.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 2:59am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 2:30am: Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 1:55am: UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 1:40am: I could have beaten the stuffing out of them. Why didn't you? If they're going to look at our women like that, they deserve everything they get. It is considered assault if you do that. They would have to make some kind of verbal threat or action that can be interpreted as a threat before I can make a first act of violence. Even then, I would have to show cause to make the first move. They're just Curries, for fck's sake. They're not going to stand up to an Aussie bloke - or his women.

Recent articles about India's rape epidemic clearly prove you right. When they are all committed to gang raping someone, it won't go challenged by the community. But if there are a few objections among the male folk, then the rape might not happen.

I have a mate who years back was in Cairo and was invited into a courtyard by some locals to have a drink. As they sat around drinking and talking, the conversation turned to sex. At some point in the conversation, he realized they were talking about having sex with - him! Not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of Egyptian men, he began to strategize:  at the courtyard entrance was a man with a gun so if they picked up that he was trying to make his escape they could gangbang him right then and there. So he told them he had to go take a poo and the restroom was next door in the restaurant and to get to the restaurant he had to go out the courtyard entrance and past the man with the gun. He grabbed his backpack and told them he'd be right back after the poo but instead he ran as fast as he could down the street. A little while later they all caught up to him in a car but by that time he was in the thick of the city and there was nothing they could do to get him to return.

When I was in India, all I found was....
Filth, disgusting filth.
Poverty
Kids shitti g in the gutter
Beggars, deformed beggars.
Thieves, crooks and skinny blokes than crumpled when thumped.

One tried to rob me in the street.
All the people in the street ignored the attempted theft.
Even after I kicked him so hard he went down and didn't move.

India....can't say everyone was the same, but to allow this kind of disgusting filth and criminality to fester, says a lot about a country.

Never went there a second time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaNuWmpVOWo

cows are sacred in India are they not??.. ::) ::)

a.  Some of them are stupid

b. They are not all advanced as human beings

c.  Some have a gang mentality

d.  Their society predisposes them due to its treatment of women

Umm.... lock in......... lock in................e) Eddy - all of the above....

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 4:35am:

I have a mate who years back was in Cairo and was invited into a courtyard by some locals to have a drink. As they sat around drinking and talking, the conversation turned to sex. At some point in the conversation, he realized they were talking about having sex with - him! Not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of Egyptian men ...

He's not particularly fond of Egyptians?

They're different to us in every way over there. Different humans altogether.
Australians are raised with their head up their arse. We're even told to submit to the offender....so in other words you're supposed to lay there ladies and cop it sweet.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 14^th, 2018 at 1:38am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 14th, 2018 at 1:19am: They don't keep it to themselves when they migrate to Australia, either. Dinner with my 17-year-old daughter gets ruined if another table is filled with Indian men. The last time, my daughter was treated with stares and lustful looks and sounds of them agreeing in unison that my daughter needs a good gang rape. Giving them an "eyes front" gesture to get them to look back to their own business does not last long. They just get back to looking when they think I have lost attention to them. Had my daughter's boyfriend been there instead of me, he would probably give those guys the physical beating they deserve. If he had taken his eyes off her, the darkies would have pack-raped her in a flash. He wouldn't be able to marry her then. You'd be stuck with her.

You've been to India, can you tell us which part of the article you disagree with?

December 9 2017

Men blame women in western clothes: India's rape culture is thriving

Delhi: India promised a lot following the 2012 gang rape of a physiotherapy student so brutal that she died of her injuries.

It would give legal aid to victims, make it easier for rape survivors to register the crime, develop a more sensitive police force and "fast-track courts" to expedite cases, it would add more street lights and CCTV cameras to make women feel safer.

Let's put all that to one side because hardly any of it has happened.

What about the hope that Indian women would be less at risk of sexual violence and harassment because of the jolt to the national conscience from a case that shook the country to its core?

Let's park that on one side too, because women are just as vulnerable as before. Their daily lives are still ruled by fear.

And if they are unfortunate enough to be raped, a report last month by Human Rights Watch showed that they will still be subjected to humiliation and doubt and questioned about their promiscuity and moral character by police and health workers.

Judging by the latest rape statistics released by the National Crime Records Bureau on November 30, it appears not. Rape cases rose by 12.4 per cent in 2016 after a dip between 2014 and 2015.

The increase is probably the result of more women being prepared to report the crime, but it certainly shows that if women hoped the 2012 gang rape would usher in a more progressive male mentality, they were wrong.
'Women should watch what they do'

Regressive attitudes towards women are rooted in India's deeply traditional and conservative culture, in which women embody a family and community's izzat, or honour.

The clothes they wear, where they go, at what time, with whom, must be controlled lest they bring dishonour and disgrace through unacceptable behaviour, such as being seen with a man who is not a relative, smoking, drinking, dancing, wearing revealing clothes or being out after dark.   

Men who believe women should not be free to live as they wish are not monsters. Many are hard-working, decent men trying to do the best for their families in very trying circumstances.

But the basic fact is that - barring a Westernised elite that is so minuscule it barely counts - they cannot countenance giving women the personal and social freedoms that are taken for granted in the West.

Take Virendra Kumar, 37, who sells flowers on the roadside in south Delhi. Married with young children, he says emphatically that the men who raped and killed Jyoti Singh Pandey with unbelievable ferocity after she boarded a bus with a male friend to go home after seeing the film Life of Pi on December 16, 2012, "should hang" for their savagery.

Though the Indian government flew Pandey to Singapore for an intestinal transplant – her assailants used an iron rod that ripped out her intestines – she died on December 29.

Kumar expresses sympathy with Pandey and her family but insists that women need to watch what they do.
'A man will only have bad thoughts ...'

"I sit out here all day and see couples on the street holding hands, hugging. These are things that should happen behind closed doors. If the girl who was gang-raped had been making out with her friend on the bus, then that would have provoked the men who raped her," he said.

He states firmly that Indian society does not allow a woman to smoke or drink or wear what she likes.

"She must be covered and look respectable. That way, no man will try anything," he says. "A man will only have bad thoughts about a woman if she is showing a lot of flesh. Not otherwise."

Vijay Verma, 53, has several customers impatiently crowding around the counter of his grocery store in New Friends Colony in Delhi but takes a few minutes to give his views, which are not very different from Kumar's.

Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable.

Then comes the invariable "but".

"But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said.
Rapes don't happen in villages

These are ordinary men and their views are near-ubiquitous in India, in rural and urban areas, across class, and across religions. Proof that they are entrenched deep in Indian psychology comes from the fact that the same opinions have been voiced by numerous politicians since 2012. 

"Earlier, if men and women held hands, they would get caught by parents and reprimanded, but now everything is so open ... Rapes happen because men and women interact freely," said Mamata Banerjee, a woman who has been chief minister of West Bengal state since 2011.

"Rapes take place in cities and not in villages. Women should refrain from venturing out with men other than their relatives. Such incidents happen due to the influence of Western culture and women wearing less clothes," said Mohan Bhagwat, leader of the influential Hindu social organisation the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh in 2013.

"Women should not venture out with men who are not relatives," said politician Abu Asim Azmi in 2014, in answer to a question about rising numbers of rapes.

Cont:

Azmi also said: "The more nudity, the more fashionable a girl is considered. Ants will swarm the place where sugar is."
Against Indian culture

Amir Malik is a driver for a rich family. His job is mainly to ferry around the family's 21-year-old daughter, both for her studies and her socialising. In August, he sought a word with his employer.

"I couldn't take it. It felt wrong. She sits in the back with a skirt so short her thighs show. Or she wears skin-tight leggings that make her look naked. I told my boss I'm not comfortable with her in the back dressed like that. From the village I come from, only disreputable women dress like this,"  said Malik.

Malik said his employer agreed to ask his daughter to "tone it down a bit".

"But I haven't seen any difference. I'm looking for another job. This is against Indian culture," he said. 

Hair stylist Karan Sankhla, 22, agrees with Malik. Women should feel safe wherever they go but they must behave and dress "within a limit".

The hair salon where he works in Bharat Nagar is next to a seedy hotel. Sankle says he sees girls coming with their lovers during the day, having lied to their parents that they are going to work. This, he said, is unacceptable.   

"The 2012 victim did nothing wrong. She was innocent. But women can't go to bars wearing short skirts and see-through tops and behave wildly and also say they want to be safe. They need to take precautions. If they don't, they give men wrong ideas," he said.
The nub of the problem

It's not that nothing at all has changed in India since 2012. There is now more debate about women's rights and a greater awareness of the need to educate young boys while still at school.

More and more women's groups are mobilising to fight for freedoms. Rape victims are more likely to reveal their identity because they realise it is the rapist, not they, who should be ashamed.

Three years ago, Prime Minister Narendra Modi captured the nub of the problem perfectly when, referring to rape, he urged parents at a huge rally at the Red Fort in the capital to take responsibility for the behaviour of their sons rather than putting the onus on their daughters.

"Even when they are only 12, young girls are always being asked so many questions by their parents, like 'where are you off to?'. But do these parents ask their sons where they are going?" he asked.

At his cluttered studio where he frames pictures, Vimal Pradhan, 39, is the only man interviewed by Fairfax Media who had no "but". The father of two boys, Pradhan said that if men are never judged for being out late, for dating, or for drinking, why should women? In fact, Pradhan believes that if Indian men won't change, women must change.

"They are too well behaved. If a man ogles or gropes them, they should slap him hard. They should be more aggressive and scream for help to make it clear they won't tolerate any nonsense," he said.

'A man will only have bad thoughts ...'

"I sit out here all day and see couples on the street holding hands, hugging. These are things that should happen behind closed doors. If the girl who was gang-raped had been making out with her friend on the bus, then that would have provoked the men who raped her," he said.

"She must be covered and look respectable. That way, no man will try anything," he says. "A man will only have bad thoughts about a woman if she is showing a lot of flesh

Rapes happen because men and women interact freely," said Mamata Banerjee, a woman who has been chief minister of West Bengal state since 2011.

Azmi also said: "The more nudity, the more fashionable a girl is considered. Ants will swarm the place where sugar is.

The 2012 victim did nothing wrong. She was innocent. But women can't go to bars wearing short skirts and see-through tops and behave wildly and also say they want to be safe. They need to take precautions. If they don't, they give men wrong ideas," he said.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 8:02am:

AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 4:35am: I have a mate who years back was in Cairo and was invited into a courtyard by some locals to have a drink. As they sat around drinking and talking, the conversation turned to sex. At some point in the conversation, he realized they were talking about having sex with - him! Not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of Egyptian men ... He's not particularly fond of Egyptians?

Can we assume you would have bent over and invited them to /fək/ you in the ass in the name of Allah?  :)

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 8:02am: AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 4:35am: I have a mate who years back was in Cairo and was invited into a courtyard by some locals to have a drink. As they sat around drinking and talking, the conversation turned to sex. At some point in the conversation, he realized they were talking about having sex with - him! Not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of Egyptian men ... He's not particularly fond of Egyptians? Can we assume you would have bent over and invited them to /fək/ you in the ass in the name of Allah?  :)

How could anyone NOT want to be arse raped by a bunch of Arabs so you can walk like an Egyptian!

There is an Orthodox Jewish woman I know who dresses modestly (think 19th century) and hides her hair explaining to me that she (and the other woman in her sect) does so as not to arouse the men. I didn't know what to say to that.

Like Trump said why are we bringing all of these people from shithole countries ?

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:00am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 8:02am: AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 4:35am: I have a mate who years back was in Cairo and was invited into a courtyard by some locals to have a drink. As they sat around drinking and talking, the conversation turned to sex. At some point in the conversation, he realized they were talking about having sex with - him! Not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of Egyptian men ... He's not particularly fond of Egyptians? Can we assume you would have bent over and invited them to /fək/ you in the ass in the name of Allah?

Why did you say "Egyptian" men?

If he objected to the rape, why not say "not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of men".

Adding "Egyptian" makes it looks like he didn't mind the rape so much, it was just the fact that they were Egyptians that turned him off.

Is this the case?

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:58am:

There is an Orthodox Jewish woman I know who dresses modestly (think 19th century) and hides her hair explaining to me that she (they the other woman in her sect) does so as not to arouse the men. I didn't know what to say to that.

Where's this? In Australia?

Sir lastnail wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:03am:

Like Trump said why are we bringing all of these people from shithole countries ?

A lot of people are saying this....it's not just Trump.

I am not sure we Australians can criticize other countries and culture when we ourselves just came out from royal commission into institutional sex abuse. 

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:08am:

I am not sure we Australians can criticize other countries and culture when we ourselves just came out from royal commission into institutional sex abuse.

I'm pretty sure that we Australians can voice our disgust irrespective. It's called freedom of freaking speech.

Because he was in Cairo. Had he been in Beijing I would have written "Chinese." Had he been in Harris  Park, however, I would have just used "tribesmen"  ;)

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:58am:

There is an Orthodox Jewish woman I know who dresses modestly (think 19th century) and hides her hair explaining to me that she (and the other woman in her sect) does so as not to arouse the men. I didn't know what to say to that.

Orthodox Jews are batsheetcrazy but any issue should be judged by it's numbers. There are 6.5 million jews in the world and lets say 10% are strictly orthodox.

The population of Delhi is 1.324 billion.

When I was single knew a bunch of Israeli chicks down at Bondi, used to play beach vollyball with them. I also never saw their hair because there were all very smoothly waxed.
Nom nom nom.

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:11am:

Because he was in Cairo. Had he been in Beijing I would have written "Chinese." Had he been in Harris  Park, however, I would have just used "tribesmen"  ;)

What if he/she was picking strawberries in Queensland?

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:08am:

I am not sure we Australians can criticize other countries and culture when we ourselves just came out from royal commission into institutional sex abuse.

It's a global village.

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:11am:

Because he was in Cairo. Had he been in Beijing I would have written "Chinese." Had he been in Harris  Park, however, I would have just used "tribesmen"  ;)

So, it's the nationality of the rapists that bothers him - not the actual penetration.

Got it!

Gordon wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:13am:

AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:11am: Because he was in Cairo. Had he been in Beijing I would have written "Chinese." Had he been in Harris  Park, however, I would have just used "tribesmen"  ;) What if he/she was picking strawberries in Queensland?

"cabbie"

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:15am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:13am: AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:11am: Because he was in Cairo. Had he been in Beijing I would have written "Chinese." Had he been in Harris  Park, however, I would have just used "tribesmen"  ;) What if he/she was picking strawberries in Queensland? "cabbie"

I think you missread, I was talking about a rapist strawberry picker, not cabbage.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:14am:

actual penetration.

the thought of anal penetration by another man has got you going ...  :)

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:15am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:13am: AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:11am: Because he was in Cairo. Had he been in Beijing I would have written "Chinese." Had he been in Harris  Park, however, I would have just used "tribesmen"  ;) What if he/she was picking strawberries in Queensland? "cabbie"

Uber  :P

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:17am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:14am: actual penetration. the thought of anal penetration by another man has got you going ...

The subject of male to male gang rape was introduced by you.

I'm merely trying to ascertain what nationality your friend would be happy to accommodate.

Gordon wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:16am:

AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:15am: Gordon wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:13am: AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:11am: Because he was in Cairo. Had he been in Beijing I would have written "Chinese." Had he been in Harris  Park, however, I would have just used "tribesmen"  ;) What if he/she was picking strawberries in Queensland? "cabbie" I think you missread, I was talking about a rapist strawberry picker, not cabbage.

But if it's Queensland then we're talking cabbie and bananas.

This article is really bloody interesting.

A simple answer points to the Indian caste system. There is an expression in India that “bringing up a daughter is like watering a neighbor’s plant.” India places women lower than men. There is a total and complete disrespect for women in Indian religious scriptures.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/whats-really-behind-indias-rape-crisis

Gordon wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:31am:

This article is really bloody interesting. A simple answer points to the Indian caste system. There is an expression in India that “bringing up a daughter is like watering a neighbor’s plant.” India places women lower than men. There is a total and complete disrespect for women in Indian religious scriptures. https://www.thedailybeast.com/whats-really-behind-indias-rape-crisis

Ahhh so it's pretty much like Islam ....

Lisa Jones wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:10am:

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:08am: I am not sure we Australians can criticize other countries and culture when we ourselves just came out from royal commission into institutional sex abuse.  I'm pretty sure that we Australians can voice our disgust irrespective. It's called freedom of freaking speech.

Then perhaps direct your disgust at the perpetrators rather in general.  Innocent people do not have to cop these ..er.. misguided speech

"May your daughter give birth to a pregnant girl"

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:18am:

The subject of male to male gang rape was introduced by you.

True, but you ran with it. Maybe prison rape fantasies excite you as well?  ;D

AiA wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:57pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:18am: The subject of male to male gang rape was introduced by you. True, but you ran with it. Maybe prison rape fantasies excite you as well?

It's not rape, if I say yes.


http://www.adrants.com/images/smitten_kitten_caged_heat.jpg

freediver wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 12:01pm:

"May your daughter give birth to a pregnant girl"

May all your elephants go on strike and knock down your out-house...

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 1:00pm:

AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 12:57pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:18am: The subject of male to male gang rape was introduced by you. True, but you ran with it. Maybe prison rape fantasies excite you as well?  It's not rape, if I say yes. http://www.adrants.com/images/smitten_kitten_caged_heat.jpg

Help!  My eyes are being raped!!

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:08am:

I am not sure we Australians can criticize other countries and culture when we ourselves just came out from royal commission into institutional sex abuse.

Who's this WE, white woman?

Rape is generally closely linked to how strongly misogynistic your society is.
The link in the opening post lay blame mostly with Hinduism, and listed raping god stories.
That is pretyy horrifying in itself, and yet again shows why religion in general is a terrible influence on society, the actual opposite of the supplier of good morals, as the religious perennially claim.

There is more to it than just that though.
While communist Russia is usually heldup as an example of atheism driving immorality, the reality was more a case of getting rid of the competition, as Stalin built up a personality cult where he was ascribed with divine like charcteristics. He alone could interpret the will of the ghost of Lenin. His image was promoted as a symbol very much in the vein of religious idols, and kids were taught of his absolute correctness in sunday school like environments.

So while people say Russia was atheist, the reality was more that it was a new cult of Stalin worship that produced horrific results.

The reason I bring this up is the horrific behaviour of the soviet army during, and after WW2. They raped their way across europe, with figures in excess of 2 million women raped by Russian troops, starting in 1943, but climaxing in a crescendo of violence in 1945.
2,000,000 women and children raped.

The raison d'etre provided was revenge against Germany.
Does that satisfy every one here?
Personally I think that men must come from a society where misogyny is rampant, before we could see such widespread brutality manifest itself.
We should also be aware that some also claim the US and other allied soldiers of about 200,000 rapes in post war germany, up until 1948.
It certainly does not seem totally improbable.

So the crux issue surrounding rape is just what attitudes the men in a society are raised to hold about the women of that society.
We have mentioned our joint distaste for Islam's attitude to women on here, but the opening post shows us that they are not alone, and we need all societies to raise the level of equality and respect afforded to women.

Just another reason why people coming here should be made to fully respect and adopt the same modern attitudes of a decent secular western society.

Are Indian men the most prolific rapists on earth?

Rape is the fourth most common crime against women in India. But while the 2015 NCRB (National Crime Records Bureau) statistics show that, on average, a woman is raped every 15 minutes, some experts warn that such figures underestimate the severity of the problem. They point to studies that show over 90% of cases go unreported.


Why most rapes go unreported in India

After New Year’s Eve turned out to be a night of shame for Bangalore, India’s IT capital, as girls who had gathered on MG Road to welcome 2017 were reportedly groped en masse, politicians were quick to put the blame squarely on the women themselves — for wearing ‘Western’ clothes.

While this mass molestation was still being debated, a video went viral of a Bangalore woman being groped and robbed as she walked home on the same night. In this instance, the police registered a criminal case suo motu as the victim refused to lodge a complaint. She, it seems, shares the fears of thousands of women in India who do not report what they suffer for fear of retaliation and humiliation.

For the first time since the turn of this century, the number of recorded cases of crimes against women, including rapes, witnessed a decline in India in 2015. But there is no cause for celebration: in reality, most cases go unreported.

Since 2001, when 143,795 cases of crimes against women were reported, India has witnessed a steady annual rise, to a peak of 337,992 in 2014; but in 2015, the number tumbled to 327,394. Similarly, the recorded number of rape cases across the country decreased from 36,735 in 2014 to 34,651 in 2015.

Rape is the fourth most common crime against women in India. But while the 2015 NCRB (National Crime Records Bureau) statistics show that, on average, a woman is raped every 15 minutes, some experts warn that such figures underestimate the severity of the problem. They point to studies that show over 90% of cases go unreported.

An ActionAid UK report, for example, found that almost four out of five women (79%) in India have experienced some form of harassment or violence in public.

Sarah Mathews, the Managing Trustee of Sankalp Women’s Support Alliance, which rehabilitates rape victims and offers them free legal support, says: “One reason why rape and sexual assault cases go unreported is because the perpetrators are closely related to the victims.”

Of the 34,651 cases of rape reported in 2015, in 33,098 (95.5%) of instances the offender was known to the victim as a close relative, neighbor or acquaintance. Furthermore, 11,393 (32.77%) of the victims were minors.

Between 2012 and 2015, the number of persons arrested for rape in India rose 35% to 42,036. However, a major discouragement for victims to come forward remains the courts’ snail-like processing of cases. “Rape cases often drag on for months and years, due to which the victims lose their faith and confidence,” says Mathews.

Moreover, while on average six women are gangraped in India every day, only a handful of these cases — usually in the major cities — are highlighted in mass media.

“Most of the rapes are planned; it isn’t a crime of opportunity,” says Mathews. “Most of [the offenders] are serial rapists, too. As cases go unreported, they are encouraged to repeat the offense. The first steps towards curbing this menace are to sensitize people on the social stigma and  encourage reporting of the crime.

http://i.imgur.com/lYW3Tdr.jpg

aquascoot wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 5:28am:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaNuWmpVOWo

Now you know darned well that wasn't a "cow".

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:04am:

AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 9:00am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 8:02am: AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 4:35am: I have a mate who years back was in Cairo and was invited into a courtyard by some locals to have a drink. As they sat around drinking and talking, the conversation turned to sex. At some point in the conversation, he realized they were talking about having sex with - him! Not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of Egyptian men ... He's not particularly fond of Egyptians? Can we assume you would have bent over and invited them to /fək/ you in the ass in the name of Allah?  Why did you say "Egyptian" men? If he objected to the rape, why not say "not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of men". Adding "Egyptian" makes it looks like he didn't mind the rape so much, it was just the fact that they were Egyptians that turned him off. Is this the case?

What pointless rot Peccar.

He was in feckin Egypt.

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:08am:

I am not sure we Australians can criticize other countries and culture when we ourselves just came out from royal commission into institutional sex abuse.

Any of those sort of enquiries going on in the ME?

And have there ever been any?  ::)

Gordon wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:31am:

This article is really bloody interesting. A simple answer points to the Indian caste system. There is an expression in India that “bringing up a daughter is like watering a neighbor’s plant.” India places women lower than men. There is a total and complete disrespect for women in Indian religious scriptures. https://www.thedailybeast.com/whats-really-behind-indias-rape-crisis

Yes just goes to show there intelligence .....

that without women none of the animals would be here .... that applies to their ME mates as well.

Gordon wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 7:14pm:

Are Indian men the most prolific rapists on earth? Rape is the fourth most common crime against women in India. But while the 2015 NCRB (National Crime Records Bureau) statistics show that, on average, a woman is raped every 15 minutes, some experts warn that such figures underestimate the severity of the problem. They point to studies that show over 90% of cases go unreported. Why most rapes go unreported in India After New Year’s Eve turned out to be a night of shame for Bangalore, India’s IT capital, as girls who had gathered on MG Road to welcome 2017 were reportedly groped en masse, politicians were quick to put the blame squarely on the women themselves — for wearing ‘Western’ clothes. While this mass molestation was still being debated, a video went viral of a Bangalore woman being groped and robbed as she walked home on the same night. In this instance, the police registered a criminal case suo motu as the victim refused to lodge a complaint. She, it seems, shares the fears of thousands of women in India who do not report what they suffer for fear of retaliation and humiliation. For the first time since the turn of this century, the number of recorded cases of crimes against women, including rapes, witnessed a decline in India in 2015. But there is no cause for celebration: in reality, most cases go unreported. Since 2001, when 143,795 cases of crimes against women were reported, India has witnessed a steady annual rise, to a peak of 337,992 in 2014; but in 2015, the number tumbled to 327,394. Similarly, the recorded number of rape cases across the country decreased from 36,735 in 2014 to 34,651 in 2015. Rape is the fourth most common crime against women in India. But while the 2015 NCRB (National Crime Records Bureau) statistics show that, on average, a woman is raped every 15 minutes, some experts warn that such figures underestimate the severity of the problem. They point to studies that show over 90% of cases go unreported. An ActionAid UK report, for example, found that almost four out of five women (79%) in India have experienced some form of harassment or violence in public. Sarah Mathews, the Managing Trustee of Sankalp Women’s Support Alliance, which rehabilitates rape victims and offers them free legal support, says: “One reason why rape and sexual assault cases go unreported is because the perpetrators are closely related to the victims.” Of the 34,651 cases of rape reported in 2015, in 33,098 (95.5%) of instances the offender was known to the victim as a close relative, neighbor or acquaintance. Furthermore, 11,393 (32.77%) of the victims were minors. Between 2012 and 2015, the number of persons arrested for rape in India rose 35% to 42,036. However, a major discouragement for victims to come forward remains the courts’ snail-like processing of cases. “Rape cases often drag on for months and years, due to which the victims lose their faith and confidence,” says Mathews. Moreover, while on average six women are gangraped in India every day, only a handful of these cases — usually in the major cities — are highlighted in mass media. “Most of the rapes are planned; it isn’t a crime of opportunity,” says Mathews. “Most of [the offenders] are serial rapists, too. As cases go unreported, they are encouraged to repeat the offense. The first steps towards curbing this menace are to sensitize people on the social stigma and  encourage reporting of the crime.

Is that ahead or behind throwing kitchen cooking kero on them & setting them alight?

double up

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 8:02am:

AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 4:35am: I have a mate who years back was in Cairo and was invited into a courtyard by some locals to have a drink. As they sat around drinking and talking, the conversation turned to sex. At some point in the conversation, he realized they were talking about having sex with - him! Not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of Egyptian men ... He's not particularly fond of Egyptians?

A female in Egypt would not want to have consensual sex with Egyptian men. They seem to have a reputation for having all kinds of diseases. Never mind the fact that it seems strange that Egyptian men are drinking alcohol -- or was the drink non-alcoholic? Either way, the drink could be spiked and he could have been raped and infected with more than just shame and indignity.

Let me guess: The "mate" was a blond haired, blue eyed person that Egyptians racistly assume to be the traits of effeminate people? They probably thought he deserved to be raped. Maybe the "mate" did not have a beard, and in Egyptian culture, they might consider this homosexuality. Rhetorical questions, of course.

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 8:11am:

They're different to us in every way over there. Different humans altogether. Australians are raised with their head up their arse. We're even told to submit to the offender....so in other words you're supposed to lay there ladies and cop it sweet.

Australians are raised to be self-reliant people. I assume you live in the city where things are just handed to you? If someone wants to fight you, your options are to either fight or flee. And there is no shame in fleeing. But if you are outmuscled, outnumbered or outgunned, you don't have much of a choice to flee. People are dimwits to just accept that they need to surrender.

Gordon wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 9:07am:

AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 9:00am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 8:02am: AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 4:35am: I have a mate who years back was in Cairo and was invited into a courtyard by some locals to have a drink. As they sat around drinking and talking, the conversation turned to sex. At some point in the conversation, he realized they were talking about having sex with - him! Not wanting to be ass-raped by a bunch of Egyptian men ... He's not particularly fond of Egyptians? Can we assume you would have bent over and invited them to /fək/ you in the ass in the name of Allah?  :) How could anyone NOT want to be arse raped by a bunch of Arabs so you can walk like an Egyptian!

Then you wail-oh wail-oh wail-oh wail-ooooooh.... to all the cops in the donut shop.

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:08am:

I am not sure we Australians can criticize other countries and culture when we ourselves just came out from royal commission into institutional sex abuse.

I have not read the commission's report. However, I could probably surmise that the institutional sex abuse entailed children being sexually abused by members of the school or church community that left only deep psychological scars and physical trauma rather superficial that they would only be noticed if there was a medical examination at the request of "don't tell" mummy and daddy what the person did.

Third world society's benchmark of sexual abuse would entail gang rapes, beatings, all forms of vile abuse, with the possibility of death from immolation. Anything less would not seem all that serious for third world standards.

Gordon wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:13am:

tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:08am: I am not sure we Australians can criticize other countries and culture when we ourselves just came out from royal commission into institutional sex abuse.  It's a global village.

And Australia keeps our house relatively clean and orderly. Not like the punk rockin' Arabs and South Asians who like to party all night on the far side of the pond.

They use dicks for brains, have no sex appeal, and couldn't woo a woman if their pants were on fire.

That's why they have arranged marriages....

Sorry 'bout that .......

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 12:26am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:13am: tickleandrose wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 10:08am: I am not sure we Australians can criticize other countries and culture when we ourselves just came out from royal commission into institutional sex abuse.  It's a global village. And Australia keeps our house relatively clean and orderly. Not like the punk rockin' Arabs and South Asians who like to party all night on the far side of the pond.

How, when, where and why is it a 'global village'?  You surely don;t want to share the conditions of the worst of the world, do you?

Jose` Marti may sound good - 'with the poor peoples of the earth I wish to share my fate'.... but I prefer that my children and grand-children prosper from my incredible efforts to rise above abject poverty....

With billions of poor people, there is no choice... and no 'global village'....

"Con los pobres de la tierra
  Quiero yo mi suerte echar:
  El arroyo de la sierra
  Me complace más que el mar. "

Go - share with the poor of the earth.. leave mine out of it... in advocating a 'global village' you are playing directly into the hands of the 'globalists' and their ruthless pursuit of profit without care....

"Good and bad, I define these terms
Quite clear, no doubt, somehow
Ah, but I was so much older then
I'm younger than that now. "

Bob Dylan - My Back Pages.

Replace 'good' with 'left' in politics, and 'bad' with 'right' in politics - and you'll get it...

Both the same path to oblivion for the ordinary person.

If I could consider the global community to be a large city as an analogy, I would say that Australia lives around the outer suburbs with decent housing and facilities. South Asia and the Middle East are the ghettos of the city where crime is ever constant.

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The father of a 7 month old child is reporting that he was left with no other option but to take action, and to take up revenge against a 17 year old boy who had the audacity to rape his baby daughter. The court refused to convict the almost-legal-adult, citing a lack of evidence: but some people seem to believe that shouldn’t stop a man, unless he is completely and totally subservient to the state and afraid of the consequences of what he knows he should do. The Indian man decided to tie the teenager to a tree and chop his hands clean off, as reported by the New York Post, after the courts refused to convict him of the more serious charges that are associated with his crime. “In court, the father said he was willing to forgive the teen and accept cash as compensation — even offering to drive the perv home to Kotli Ablu, a village in Punjab where they both live, the Mirror of the UK reported. But halfway through the trip, the father stopped the bike, tied the rapist to a tree, and hacked off his mitts with a machete. “The father then fled, leaving the teen screaming for help before being found by locals.”

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 10:59am:

Quote: The father of a 7 month old child is reporting that he was left with no other option but to take action, and to take up revenge against a 17 year old boy who had the audacity to rape his baby daughter. The court refused to convict the almost-legal-adult, citing a lack of evidence: but some people seem to believe that shouldn’t stop a man, unless he is completely and totally subservient to the state and afraid of the consequences of what he knows he should do. The Indian man decided to tie the teenager to a tree and chop his hands clean off, as reported by the New York Post, after the courts refused to convict him of the more serious charges that are associated with his crime. “In court, the father said he was willing to forgive the teen and accept cash as compensation — even offering to drive the perv home to Kotli Ablu, a village in Punjab where they both live, the Mirror of the UK reported. But halfway through the trip, the father stopped the bike, tied the rapist to a tree, and hacked off his mitts with a machete. “The father then fled, leaving the teen screaming for help before being found by locals.”

That is awesome. Good that he let him live too. Every day that parasite wakes up he will be reminded of what he did to that poor child. I hope it really hurt too.
I love hearing stories like this.

This is absolutely unacceptable. I don't care if it's your culture; raping women because they dress 'inappropriately' is wrong. I don't care if it's your culture.

People like Brian Ross think these people can integrate into Australian society, or worst that we should let them in.

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 11:38am:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Jan 16th, 2018 at 10:59am: Quote: The father of a 7 month old child is reporting that he was left with no other option but to take action, and to take up revenge against a 17 year old boy who had the audacity to rape his baby daughter. The court refused to convict the almost-legal-adult, citing a lack of evidence: but some people seem to believe that shouldn’t stop a man, unless he is completely and totally subservient to the state and afraid of the consequences of what he knows he should do. The Indian man decided to tie the teenager to a tree and chop his hands clean off, as reported by the New York Post, after the courts refused to convict him of the more serious charges that are associated with his crime. “In court, the father said he was willing to forgive the teen and accept cash as compensation — even offering to drive the perv home to Kotli Ablu, a village in Punjab where they both live, the Mirror of the UK reported. But halfway through the trip, the father stopped the bike, tied the rapist to a tree, and hacked off his mitts with a machete. “The father then fled, leaving the teen screaming for help before being found by locals.” That is awesome. Good that he let him live too. Every day that parasite wakes up he will be reminded of what he did to that poor child. I hope it really hurt too. I love hearing stories like this.

While nobody can legitimately support vigilantism, any father who cannot empathise with a man wishing to reek vengeance on all vile creatures that sexually abuse children, would be a rarity.

I would point out in the case cited, that while he was in a chopping mood, the obvious appendage to remove seems to have slipped his mind.

I recently saw a documentary that highlighted just how prevalent child rape was in certain parts of Africa.
A gold star for any who pretends they could not guess what the prevalent religion was in these areas.
A gold star seems the most appropriate reward, for this breed of mealy mouthed apologist, as they think at a pre-school level.
Funny how their great respect and love for their fellow man goes to the perpetrators whose rights are impinged upon, by racists who disapprove of the myriad raft of appalling behaviours they demand as their religious and cultural heritage.

Oh, I'm all for vigilantism.

Harm my wife, kids or grandkids and I will kill you.

Slowly.

It's hard shooting the first kanga, but after that, all animals are pretty much the same.
And any animal that dares harm my family will understand that, very quickly.

No point going to the law, the law is an ass.
If they end up in gaol, I will be waiting.

Raping a 7 month old baby?    He is lucky he just lost his hands  GGGRRRRR

Auggie wrote on Jan 16^th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

This is absolutely unacceptable. I don't care if it's your culture; raping women because they dress 'inappropriately' is wrong. I don't care if it's your culture. People like Brian Ross think these people can integrate into Australian society, or worst that we should let them in.

But bwyannnnnnn keeps telling us how wonderful and PEACEFUL this CULT is.

Could it be that he lies?

India, seriously.

Rape of eight-month-old baby sickens India

A 28-year-old man has been arrested in the Indian capital on charges of raping his 8-month-old female cousin.

"The man has confessed, he was drunk when he attacked the girl," a senior police officer said Tuesday. The incident happened Sunday at her home in Delhi, and marks the latest such case in a country notorious for high levels of sexual violence.

Delhi Commission of Women chief Swati Maliwal visited the child in hospital Monday night and tweeted that her injuries were "horrific."

The child's parents had gone to work leaving their daughter in the care of their sister-in-law, police said. It was the sister-in-law's son who raped the child. When the mother returned from work, she found her daughter lying unconscious in a pool of blood, Indian news agency IANS reported, citing police investigators.

The mother who works as a domestic help called her husband, a daily wage laborer, and they took the child to hospital where it was found that she was sexually assaulted. Investigations pointed to the child's cousin as the assaulter.

A case has been registered under the Protection of Children from Sexual Offenses (POCSO) Act. Maliwal said the child underwent three hours of surgery. "She suffered inhuman injuries to internal organs," Maliwal tweeted in Hindi. "When will things change?"

The incident comes at a time when a series of sexual assault cases have already thrust into focus the utter lack of protection for Indian women and girls, both in public and private spaces. Over the past several weeks, multiple assaults on women and girls have been reported from five towns in India's northern state of Haryana. The crude and frighteningly brutal nature of these attacks had already had Indian society reeling in shock and despair at its inability to prevent such crimes.
Pervasive sexual assault

Brutal rapes have been reported in India on a near-daily basis and reports of ghastly sexual assaults have risen in recent years.

"This is complete lawlessness in Haryana and a war on women," senior Indian National Congress leader Randeep Singh Surjewala recently told DW.

"And these crimes are happening when the state is celebrating its highest-ever gender ratio of 914 girls per 1,000 boys. What a travesty!" Surjewala said.

Sexual assault crimes are not new to India, which is still a deeply conservative and patriarchal society where many families prefer sons over daughters. In fact, India's government said Monday that more than 63 million women and girls are statistically "missing" by being deprived of food, health care and schooling.

Officials also said Indian families have more than 21 million unwanted girls, a calculation based on analyzing the gender of last-born children.

India bans gender-selective abortions, but the practice of aborting female fetuses persists. The birth of a son is celebrated, while a daughter's birth can be a time of mourning, as parents fear the debts they'll incur for marriage dowries.

"Girls are threatened before they are born, and every second after they are born. It is a living hell and male attitudes toward them have not helped," lawyer and activist Seema Misra told DW.

"Abuse, molestation, torture and rape of girls have become the sad order of the day, which has shamed humanity," rights activist Kavita Krishnan told DW. "The entrenched violence against women and the failure of authorities to protect them is sad," she said.
Problems with the 'official' mindset

In the midst of this outrage over the savage rapes and killings, statements by authorities have only added fuel to the fire. RC Mishra, a director general of police, stoked controversy with comments about the rape-murders, which were construed as being insensitive.

"It's part of society. Such incidents have been taking place forever," Mishra reportedly told an Indian news agency.

Even politicians like Haryana state's Chief Minister Manohar Lal Khattar have made sexist and misogynistic comments in the past, raising doubts about their resolve to tackle the problem of acute insecurity faced by women in the country.

In 2014, before he became chief minister, Khattar told an election rally: "If a girl is dressed decently, a boy will not look at her in the wrong way. If they want freedom, why don't they just roam around naked? Freedom has to be limited. These short clothes are Western influences. Our country's tradition asks girls to dress decently."   

India recorded more than 36,000 cases of rape, sexual assault and similar offenses against children under the POCSO Act in 2016, according to data available with India's National Crime Records Bureau. It's unclear whether the series of attacks in recent weeks will prompt authorities to do some soul-searching regarding their failure in this area and mull over how they could best ensure safety for women and girls in India.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/01/30/rape-eight-month-old-baby-sickens-india/1078159001/

India has a sick sick revolting culture.

This is complete lawlessness in Haryana and a war on women," senior Indian National Congress leader Randeep Singh Surjewala recently told DW.

"And these crimes are happening when the state is celebrating its highest-ever gender ratio of 914 girls per 1,000 boys. What a travesty!" Surjewala said.

And Brian Ross thinks that these people can integrate into Australian society....

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

They already have.  Despite what you want to believe.  Yes, there are a share of lewd men out there, but they come from all sorts of background.  In our society, we have India teachers, doctors, nurses, lawyers.  We have Indians in our own ADF, public servant.  And most of them are law abiding, tax paying member of the society.   What you are saying is not only infantile but downright offensive.

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 3:56pm:

They already have.  Despite what you want to believe.  Yes, there are a share of lewd men out there, but they come from all sorts of background.  In our society, we have India teachers, doctors, nurses, lawyers.  We have Indians in our own ADF, public servant.  And most of them are law abiding, tax paying member of the society.   What you are saying is not only infantile but downright offensive.

So, you think that the Indian men we're importing here are from the lower classes, the uneducated? Those are the doctors, nurses and lawyers, aren't they???

What about businesses run by prominent Indians who hire overseas Indian students and exploit them for cheap labour? Are they law-abiding members of society???

Auggie wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:00pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 3:56pm: They already have.  Despite what you want to believe.  Yes, there are a share of lewd men out there, but they come from all sorts of background.  In our society, we have India teachers, doctors, nurses, lawyers.  We have Indians in our own ADF, public servant.  And most of them are law abiding, tax paying member of the society.   What you are saying is not only infantile but downright offensive. So, you think that the Indian men we're importing here are from the lower classes, the uneducated? Those are the doctors, nurses and lawyers, aren't they??? What about businesses run by prominent Indians who hire overseas Indian students and exploit them for cheap labour? Are they law-abiding members of society???

That is not a problem that is India specific.  What about our history?  The whole thing about convicts in Australia is about exploiting cheap labor.  Back then you can get jailed, and sent here simply by stealing a loaf of bread. 

We have a wide variety of India immigrants from a wide range of backgrounds.  But when you and your lackeys making a thread titled Why Indian men are rapist, thats unacceptable generalization. 

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:13pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:00pm: tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 3:56pm: They already have.  Despite what you want to believe.  Yes, there are a share of lewd men out there, but they come from all sorts of background.  In our society, we have India teachers, doctors, nurses, lawyers.  We have Indians in our own ADF, public servant.  And most of them are law abiding, tax paying member of the society.   What you are saying is not only infantile but downright offensive. So, you think that the Indian men we're importing here are from the lower classes, the uneducated? Those are the doctors, nurses and lawyers, aren't they??? What about businesses run by prominent Indians who hire overseas Indian students and exploit them for cheap labour? Are they law-abiding members of society??? That is not a problem that is India specific.  What about our history?  The whole thing about convicts in Australia is about exploiting cheap labor.  Back then you can get jailed, and sent here simply by stealing a loaf of bread.  We have a wide variety of India immigrants from a wide range of backgrounds.  But when you and your lackeys making a thread titled Why Indian men are rapist, thats unacceptable generalization.

Well, we’ve come a long way since then haven’t we?

So, the idea that rape is so widespread in India isn’t a myth is it??

Do you think those people can integrate? Yes or no?

I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk.

Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India.

Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest.

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

Auggie wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:18pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:13pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:00pm: tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 3:56pm: They already have.  Despite what you want to believe.  Yes, there are a share of lewd men out there, but they come from all sorts of background.  In our society, we have India teachers, doctors, nurses, lawyers.  We have Indians in our own ADF, public servant.  And most of them are law abiding, tax paying member of the society.   What you are saying is not only infantile but downright offensive. So, you think that the Indian men we're importing here are from the lower classes, the uneducated? Those are the doctors, nurses and lawyers, aren't they??? What about businesses run by prominent Indians who hire overseas Indian students and exploit them for cheap labour? Are they law-abiding members of society??? That is not a problem that is India specific.  What about our history?  The whole thing about convicts in Australia is about exploiting cheap labor.  Back then you can get jailed, and sent here simply by stealing a loaf of bread.  We have a wide variety of India immigrants from a wide range of backgrounds.  But when you and your lackeys making a thread titled Why Indian men are rapist, thats unacceptable generalization.  Well, we’ve come a long way since then haven’t we? So, the idea that rape is so widespread in India isn’t a myth is it?? Do you think those people can integrate? Yes or no?

Of course, there are already well adjusted, law abiding India citizens - majority of them in Australia.  Which was the point of my first post.   

I am not saying that rape is not widespread in India.  I think sexual assault and violence against woman is not race specific, but gender specific. 

Sexual assault is also wide spread in Australia.  We just came out of a Royal commission on Institutionalized sex abuse of children.   I do not think we have the right to criticize other countries when the problem is no less severe in our own backyard.

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:40pm:

I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting?

A yes or no answer would be great.

Gordon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:50pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting? A yes or no answer would be great.

As evident by our most recent Royal commission, the cover up and the discrimination of rape victims in Australia is no less frequent. 

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:50pm: Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting? A yes or no answer would be great. As evident by our most recent Royal commission, the cover up and the discrimination of rape victims in Australia is no less frequent.

In 2018 you just report the rape as #metoo.

wiki-

Rape in India
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Rape is the fourth most common crime against women in India.[1][2] According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) 2013 annual report, 24,923 rape cases were reported across India in 2012.[3] Out of these, 24,470 were committed by someone known to the victim (98% of the cases).[4]
India has been characterised as one of the "countries with the lowest per capita rates of rape".[5][6] A large number of rapes go unreported.[7] The willingness to report the rape has increased in recent years, after several incidents of rape received widespread media attention and triggered public protest.[8][9][10][11][12] This led the Government of India to reform its penal code for crimes of rape and sexual assault.[13]
According to NCRB 2015 statistics, Madhya Pradesh has the highest raw number of rape reports among Indian states,[14] while Jodhpur has the highest per capita rate of rape reports in cities.[15]

;D

Gordon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:55pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:52pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:50pm: Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting? A yes or no answer would be great. As evident by our most recent Royal commission, the cover up and the discrimination of rape victims in Australia is no less frequent.  In 2018 you just report the rape as #metoo.

Regardless of your undertone of disrespect for the metoo movement, here is the Australia.  Here is a report that you might find useful.

http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/archive/publications-2000s/non-reporting-and-hidden-recording-of-sexual-assault-an-international-literature-review.pdf

And that goes for you too Hammer.

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:40pm:

I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

How many rapes do you think are prosecuted in India, let alone reported???

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:55pm: tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:52pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:50pm: Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting? A yes or no answer would be great. As evident by our most recent Royal commission, the cover up and the discrimination of rape victims in Australia is no less frequent.  In 2018 you just report the rape as #metoo. Regardless of your undertone of disrespect for the metoo movement, here is the Australia.  Here is a report that you might find useful. http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/archive/publications-2000s/non-reporting-and-hidden-recording-of-sexual-assault-an-international-literature-review.pdf And that goes for you too Hammer.

Did you read the original article? Here's a teaser.

A simple answer points to the Indian caste system. There is an expression in India that “bringing up a daughter is like watering a neighbor’s plant.” India places women lower than men. There is a total and complete disrespect for women in Indian religious scriptures.

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:49pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:18pm: tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:13pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:00pm: tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 3:56pm: They already have.  Despite what you want to believe.  Yes, there are a share of lewd men out there, but they come from all sorts of background.  In our society, we have India teachers, doctors, nurses, lawyers.  We have Indians in our own ADF, public servant.  And most of them are law abiding, tax paying member of the society.   What you are saying is not only infantile but downright offensive. So, you think that the Indian men we're importing here are from the lower classes, the uneducated? Those are the doctors, nurses and lawyers, aren't they??? What about businesses run by prominent Indians who hire overseas Indian students and exploit them for cheap labour? Are they law-abiding members of society??? That is not a problem that is India specific.  What about our history?  The whole thing about convicts in Australia is about exploiting cheap labor.  Back then you can get jailed, and sent here simply by stealing a loaf of bread.  We have a wide variety of India immigrants from a wide range of backgrounds.  But when you and your lackeys making a thread titled Why Indian men are rapist, thats unacceptable generalization.  Well, we’ve come a long way since then haven’t we? So, the idea that rape is so widespread in India isn’t a myth is it?? Do you think those people can integrate? Yes or no? Of course, there are already well adjusted, law abiding India citizens - majority of them in Australia.  Which was the point of my first post.    I am not saying that rape is not widespread in India.  I think sexual assault and violence against woman is not race specific, but gender specific.  Sexual assault is also wide spread in Australia.  We just came out of a Royal commission on Institutionalized sex abuse of children.   I do not think we have the right to criticize other countries when the problem is no less severe in our own backyard.

So, just to confirm, you think that men who believe that girls who wear Western clothing are 'asking for it' can integrate successfully into Australian society?

The institutionalized sexual assault against children is a Catholic church issue, not a societal issue. Yes, it's a problem, but you're comparing oranges and apples.

We have the right to criticize cultures who believe that women deserved to be 'raped' because they wear revealing clothing.

And

'A man will only have bad thoughts ...'

"I sit out here all day and see couples on the street holding hands, hugging. These are things that should happen behind closed doors. If the girl who was gang-raped had been making out with her friend on the bus, then that would have provoked the men who raped her," he said.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/lets-forget-what-we-said-five-years-ago-india-still-lives-with-a-rape-culture-20171207-h00ygg.html

Gordon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 5:06pm:

And 'A man will only have bad thoughts ...' "I sit out here all day and see couples on the street holding hands, hugging. These are things that should happen behind closed doors. If the girl who was gang-raped had been making out with her friend on the bus, then that would have provoked the men who raped her," he said. http://www.smh.com.au/world/lets-forget-what-we-said-five-years-ago-india-still-lives-with-a-rape-culture-20171207-h00ygg.html

It's an insult to ordinary men like me who are capable of controlling our urges and acting with respect. Those men are barbarians who aren't able to control their inner desires.

Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable.

Then comes the invariable "but".

"But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said.

Gordon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 5:08pm:

Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable. Then comes the invariable "but". "But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said.

It's almost like a verse in the Quran: "Kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they've turned you out, for oppression is worst than killing.

But, if they cease, then desist....."

Auggie wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 5:10pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:08pm: Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable. Then comes the invariable "but". "But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said. It's almost like a verse in the Quran: "Kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they've turned you out, for oppression is worst than killing. But, if they cease, then desist....."

Aug, ever been to India?

Gordon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 5:12pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:10pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:08pm: Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable. Then comes the invariable "but". "But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said. It's almost like a verse in the Quran: "Kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they've turned you out, for oppression is worst than killing. But, if they cease, then desist....." Aug, ever been to India?

Nope, you?

Auggie wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:12pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:10pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:08pm: Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable. Then comes the invariable "but". "But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said. It's almost like a verse in the Quran: "Kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they've turned you out, for oppression is worst than killing. But, if they cease, then desist....." Aug, ever been to India? Nope, you?

Yeah, for a 3 week motorbike trip that took me from Delhi and thru the Indian Himalayas.

At the time I'd been living in Laos and Vietnam for about 4 years and the contrast was just so stark.

Throughout S/E Asia, there are women everywhere, on the streets, out at night enjoying themselves, working etc etc etc. In S/E Asia, the men are such babies and the women run the joint.

The first thing you notice in India is out and about, it's about 80% men. All the women are hiding, somewhere.

Gordon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 5:21pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:16pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:12pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:10pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:08pm: Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable. Then comes the invariable "but". "But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said. It's almost like a verse in the Quran: "Kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they've turned you out, for oppression is worst than killing. But, if they cease, then desist....." Aug, ever been to India? Nope, you? Yeah, for a 3 week motorbike trip that took me from Delhi and thru the Indian Himalayas. At the time I'd been living in Laos and Vietnam for about 4 years and the contrast was just so stark. Throughout S/E Asia, there are women everywhere, on the streets, out at night enjoying themselves, working etc etc etc. In S/E Asia, the men are such babies and the women run the joint. The first thing you notice in India is out and about, it's about 80% men. All the women are hiding, somewhere.

Yeap, it's cultural. India is more tribal than South East Asia. They have a problem with nationalism over there.

That's why rape culture is so prevalent over there, because they're uncivilized barbarians.

You know it's pretty bad when Indian women need to put a dot on their forehead to ward of unwanted advances. Dirty horny Indians.

Auggie wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 5:25pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:21pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:16pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:12pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:10pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:08pm: Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable. Then comes the invariable "but". "But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said. It's almost like a verse in the Quran: "Kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they've turned you out, for oppression is worst than killing. But, if they cease, then desist....." Aug, ever been to India? Nope, you? Yeah, for a 3 week motorbike trip that took me from Delhi and thru the Indian Himalayas. At the time I'd been living in Laos and Vietnam for about 4 years and the contrast was just so stark. Throughout S/E Asia, there are women everywhere, on the streets, out at night enjoying themselves, working etc etc etc. In S/E Asia, the men are such babies and the women run the joint. The first thing you notice in India is out and about, it's about 80% men. All the women are hiding, somewhere. Yeap, it's cultural. India is more tribal than South East Asia. They have a problem with nationalism over there. That's why rape culture is so prevalent over there, because they're uncivilized barbarians.

The good news is that Indian men in Australia are for the most complaint to local culture.

They're a bit pervy but that's most likely to do with them inhabiting the lowest possible position of the dating totem pole. Their only chance of getting a partner is to get an arranged marriage from back home.

Gordon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:16pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:25pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:21pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:16pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:12pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:10pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:08pm: Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable. Then comes the invariable "but". "But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said. It's almost like a verse in the Quran: "Kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they've turned you out, for oppression is worst than killing. But, if they cease, then desist....." Aug, ever been to India? Nope, you? Yeah, for a 3 week motorbike trip that took me from Delhi and thru the Indian Himalayas. At the time I'd been living in Laos and Vietnam for about 4 years and the contrast was just so stark. Throughout S/E Asia, there are women everywhere, on the streets, out at night enjoying themselves, working etc etc etc. In S/E Asia, the men are such babies and the women run the joint. The first thing you notice in India is out and about, it's about 80% men. All the women are hiding, somewhere. Yeap, it's cultural. India is more tribal than South East Asia. They have a problem with nationalism over there. That's why rape culture is so prevalent over there, because they're uncivilized barbarians. The good news is that Indian men in Australia are for the most complaint to local culture. They're a bit pervy but that's most likely to do with them inhabiting the lowest possible position of the dating totem pole. Their only chance of getting a partner is to get an arranged marriage from back home.

True. But also, many of the Indians who are here are among the upper classes and aren't in the category of 'rapists'.

Gordon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:50pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting? A yes or no answer would be great.

No more so than Australia.

I expect that the Indian men UnsubRocky and his female relative encountered were more likely to be raped by somebody of Unsubrocky's male ilk than UnsubRocky's female relatives was likely to be raped by an Indian.

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:27pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:50pm: Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting? A yes or no answer would be great. No more so than Australia.

Wow! That is being really naive? I didn't realize that India was the beacon of 'rule of law'?

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:55pm:

wiki- Rape in India From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Rape is the fourth most common crime against women in India.[1][2] According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) 2013 annual report, 24,923 rape cases were reported across India in 2012.[3] Out of these, 24,470 were committed by someone known to the victim (98% of the cases).[4] India has been characterised as one of the "countries with the lowest per capita rates of rape".[5][6] A large number of rapes go unreported.[7] The willingness to report the rape has increased in recent years, after several incidents of rape received widespread media attention and triggered public protest.[8][9][10][11][12] This led the Government of India to reform its penal code for crimes of rape and sexual assault.[13] According to NCRB 2015 statistics, Madhya Pradesh has the highest raw number of rape reports among Indian states,[14] while Jodhpur has the highest per capita rate of rape reports in cities.[15]

That's around 2 per 100,000 0f population which is 1/13 the rate in Australia.

Auggie wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 6:27pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:50pm: Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting? A yes or no answer would be great. No more so than Australia. Wow! That is being really naive? I didn't realize that India was the beacon of 'rule of law'?

That's being generous. A blue faced lie is a better description.

India court blames 'promiscuous' gang rape victim for her sexual abuse

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-gang-rape-victim-promiscuous-blame-sexual-abuse-punjab-haryana-high-jindal-global-law-school-a7968001.html

Gordon wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 6:30pm: Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 6:27pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:50pm: Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting? A yes or no answer would be great. No more so than Australia. Wow! That is being really naive? I didn't realize that India was the beacon of 'rule of law'? That's being generous. A blue faced lie is a better description. India court blames 'promiscuous' gang rape victim for her sexual abuse http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/india-gang-rape-victim-promiscuous-blame-sexual-abuse-punjab-haryana-high-jindal-global-law-school-a7968001.html

Shouldn't Gordon be posting this on Extremists Exposed?

Auggie wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:23pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 6:16pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:25pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:21pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:16pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:12pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:10pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 5:08pm: Verma is aware that times have changed. Girls and boys mix more freely, girls go to college and cafes, and interact with men in the workplace. He finds all that acceptable. Then comes the invariable "but". "But girls here can't be like girls in the West. They have to dress decently and watch where they go, who they are with. If they don't observe these restrictions, they are perceived negatively by men and will be at risk," he said. It's almost like a verse in the Quran: "Kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they've turned you out, for oppression is worst than killing. But, if they cease, then desist....." Aug, ever been to India? Nope, you? Yeah, for a 3 week motorbike trip that took me from Delhi and thru the Indian Himalayas. At the time I'd been living in Laos and Vietnam for about 4 years and the contrast was just so stark. Throughout S/E Asia, there are women everywhere, on the streets, out at night enjoying themselves, working etc etc etc. In S/E Asia, the men are such babies and the women run the joint. The first thing you notice in India is out and about, it's about 80% men. All the women are hiding, somewhere. Yeap, it's cultural. India is more tribal than South East Asia. They have a problem with nationalism over there. That's why rape culture is so prevalent over there, because they're uncivilized barbarians. The good news is that Indian men in Australia are for the most complaint to local culture. They're a bit pervy but that's most likely to do with them inhabiting the lowest possible position of the dating totem pole. Their only chance of getting a partner is to get an arranged marriage from back home. True. But also, many of the Indians who are here are among the upper classes and aren't in the category of 'rapists'.

That's lucky for us. I've spent time in some incredibly remote places in AE asia in villages that get very few westerners and gender segregation is never an issue.

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:31pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:55pm: wiki- Rape in India From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Rape is the fourth most common crime against women in India.[1][2] According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) 2013 annual report, 24,923 rape cases were reported across India in 2012.[3] Out of these, 24,470 were committed by someone known to the victim (98% of the cases).[4] India has been characterised as one of the "countries with the lowest per capita rates of rape".[5][6] A large number of rapes go unreported.[7] The willingness to report the rape has increased in recent years, after several incidents of rape received widespread media attention and triggered public protest.[8][9][10][11][12] This led the Government of India to reform its penal code for crimes of rape and sexual assault.[13] According to NCRB 2015 statistics, Madhya Pradesh has the highest raw number of rape reports among Indian states,[14] while Jodhpur has the highest per capita rate of rape reports in cities.[15] That's around 2 per 100,000 0f population which is 1/13 the rate in Australia.

Are you still going to believe that India has less rapes than Australia?

Come on. To quote Greggy: "Stay focused."

Gordon wrote on Jan 15^th, 2018 at 10:12am:

AiA wrote on Jan 15th, 2018 at 9:58am: There is an Orthodox Jewish woman I know who dresses modestly (think 19th century) and hides her hair explaining to me that she (and the other woman in her sect) does so as not to arouse the men. I didn't know what to say to that. Orthodox Jews are batsheetcrazy but any issue should be judged by it's numbers. There are 6.5 million jews in the world and lets say 10% are strictly orthodox. The population of Delhi is 1.324 billion. When I was single knew a bunch of Israeli chicks down at Bondi, used to play beach vollyball with them. I also never saw their hair because there were all very smoothly waxed. Nom nom nom.

Not raining on your parade but the population of Dehli is 18 million .... the population of all of India is 1.3 billion.

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 6:31pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:55pm: wiki- Rape in India From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Rape is the fourth most common crime against women in India.[1][2] According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) 2013 annual report, 24,923 rape cases were reported across India in 2012.[3] Out of these, 24,470 were committed by someone known to the victim (98% of the cases).[4] India has been characterised as one of the "countries with the lowest per capita rates of rape".[5][6] A large number of rapes go unreported.[7] The willingness to report the rape has increased in recent years, after several incidents of rape received widespread media attention and triggered public protest.[8][9][10][11][12] This led the Government of India to reform its penal code for crimes of rape and sexual assault.[13] According to NCRB 2015 statistics, Madhya Pradesh has the highest raw number of rape reports among Indian states,[14] while Jodhpur has the highest per capita rate of rape reports in cities.[15] That's around 2 per 100,000 0f population which is 1/13 the rate in Australia.

That's because rapes go largely unreported in India nincompoop.

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 3:56pm:

They already have.  Despite what you want to believe.  Yes, there are a share of lewd men out there, but they come from all sorts of background.  In our society, we have India teachers, doctors, nurses, lawyers.  We have Indians in our own ADF, public servant.  And most of them are law abiding, tax paying member of the society.   What you are saying is not only infantile but downright offensive.

Sheikhs have, Hindus have ... Muslim Indians have not.

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:13pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:00pm: tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 3:56pm: They already have.  Despite what you want to believe.  Yes, there are a share of lewd men out there, but they come from all sorts of background.  In our society, we have India teachers, doctors, nurses, lawyers.  We have Indians in our own ADF, public servant.  And most of them are law abiding, tax paying member of the society.   What you are saying is not only infantile but downright offensive. So, you think that the Indian men we're importing here are from the lower classes, the uneducated? Those are the doctors, nurses and lawyers, aren't they??? What about businesses run by prominent Indians who hire overseas Indian students and exploit them for cheap labour? Are they law-abiding members of society??? That is not a problem that is India specific.  What about our history?  The whole thing about convicts in Australia is about exploiting cheap labor.  Back then you can get jailed, and sent here simply by stealing a loaf of bread.  We have a wide variety of India immigrants from a wide range of backgrounds.  But when you and your lackeys making a thread titled Why Indian men are rapist, thats unacceptable generalization.

Complete irrelevant BS.

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:40pm:

I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate

You reek of potential rapist .... a real lurker.

tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 4:59pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:55pm: tickleandrose wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:52pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:50pm: Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate Do you think the treatment of rape victims by authorities in India would contribute to under-reporting? A yes or no answer would be great. As evident by our most recent Royal commission, the cover up and the discrimination of rape victims in Australia is no less frequent.  In 2018 you just report the rape as #metoo. Regardless of your undertone of disrespect for the metoo movement, here is the Australia.  Here is a report that you might find useful. http://www.aic.gov.au/media_library/archive/publications-2000s/non-reporting-and-hidden-recording-of-sexual-assault-an-international-literature-review.pdf And that goes for you too Hammer.

The Metoo movement is a hypocritical mob of shyte.

Gnads wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 7:00pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Feb 5th, 2018 at 4:40pm: I expect Unsubrocky's daughter is more likely to be raped by someone of UnsubRocky's ilk. Rape statistics are 28.6 per 100,000 for Australia and 1.8 per 100,000 for India. Australia's rape rate is 11th highest on the international list while India's is 94th highest. http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Rape-rate You reek of potential rapist .... a real lurker.

If Gnads avoids places of learning and intellect he is safe from me.

Gnads wrote on Feb 5^th, 2018 at 7:01pm:

The Metoo movement is a hypocritical mob of shyte.

Does Gnads have a confession he wishes to get off his chest and share?

Gordon wrote on Jan 13^th, 2018 at 9:39pm:

Now this is an interesting read! https://www.thedailybeast.com/whats-really-behind-indias-rape-crisis

Unfortunately that's true that caste system and Hindu religion discourage compassionate behaviour in people.
Also selectively giving birth to male offsprings result in insufficient number of female population in the society.
The solucion is to promote and encourage Indian men to become homosexuals, penetrate and rape each other.

capitosinora wrote on Feb 7^th, 2018 at 8:20am:

Gordon wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 9:39pm: Now this is an interesting read! https://www.thedailybeast.com/whats-really-behind-indias-rape-crisis Unfortunately that's true that caste system and Hindu religion discourage compassionate behaviour in people. Also selectively giving birth to male offsprings result in insufficient number of female population in the society. The solucion is to promote and encourage Indian man to become homosexuals, buggerkk and rape each other.

Send Ozpolitic conservative women to India. That will achieve your objective.