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Message started by juliar on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:57pm

Title: Now it is gender free licences
Post by juliar on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:57pm
Tony Abbott warned this would happen if the SSM YES vote got up.

The Extremist Activist Greenies would see it as a green light to attack every aspect of Australian society. And it is happening.




Police union slams gender-free driving licences
2:27pm, Jan 12, 2018 Updated: 15m ago


Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk removed gender information from driving licences in 2016. Photo: AAP


Queensland’s Police Union has slammed the removal of gender information from the state’s driving licences as “out of touch nonsense” despite acknowledging the move has no impact on operations.

The Palaszczuk government stopped displaying gender information on new and renewed licences in October 2016, but the Transport and Main Roads department still records the details, which are available to police.

While it’s not been noted as an issue by any officers until now, the plan has been derided by Queensland Police Union president Ian Leavers.

“It generally doesn’t have any effect on how we as police can do our job; it does, however, have all the hallmarks of the typical, out-of-touch nonsense we as a society have come to expect from government bureaucrats with no practical experience,” Mr Leavers told AAP on Friday.

“The next thing you know, these same government types will want to remove the actual photograph of a person from a driver licence because people might be offended because their photograph doesn’t look as good as they’d like it to be. Where does it end?”

Queensland Opposition Leader Deb Frecklington says the move is the result of a focus on political correctness.

She has called for gender information to be once again stated on Queensland licences, labelling its removal a “nanny state” move.

“It’s offensive and it’s just gone mad.”

Ms Frecklington says the government should instead be focused on unemployment, ensuring trains are ready for the Commonwealth Games and lower power bills.

The change was made following amendments to the 2013 Commonwealth Sex Discrimination Act and improvements to biometric imaging and facial recognition technologies.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2018/01/12/qld-police-union-slams-removal-gender-driving-licences/

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:59pm
Nothing to do with SSM numbnuts.  This began a year at least before the SSM thing got under way.  It is also standard practice in at least NSW.

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by juliar on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:02pm
Not according to the article.

It is very much a political correctness thing that is fired up by the SSM YES vote.

And the Pally Qld Labor govt is sucking up to the Greenies since the election so it all fits like a glove.

Tony Abbott was right.

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:07pm

I've never heard of a traffic cop pulling people's pants down as part of a licence check.

It seems that juliar has got his knickers in a knot over absolutely nothing, once again.

Moreover, this has nothing to do with SSM.

Back to the drawing board (i.e. your Liberal Party script writers propagandists), juliar.




Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:11pm

juliar wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:02pm:
Not according to the article.

It is very much a political correctness thing that is fired up by the SSM YES vote.

And the Pally Qld Labor govt is sucking up to the Greenies since the election so it all fits like a glove.

Tony Abbott was right.


Completely wrong.  The process to change licence details (sex and height) began ('fired up') at least 12 months before the push for SSM.

Where is the Article does it say otherwise you parrot?

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by red baron on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:19pm
It is Political Correctness with a Capital 'P'

Anyone here read Big Brother? You should because we are edging towards it millimetre by millimetre

Our 'soft cock' society is headed for a fall..a big one

You only have to look at Victoria where an impotent Left Wing hand wrenching Premier Daniel Andrews is allowing terrorism on the streets of Victoria

Do yourself a favour and take a look at the new movie 'The Darkest Hours' with Gary Oldman as Winston Churchill. Watch how Churchill dealt with the white flag wavers like Neville Chamberlain and Lord Halifax.

It is a tour de force and a prime example of how to resist the left wing soft cocks of this world


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:20pm

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:19pm:
It is Political Correctness with a Capital 'P'

Anyone here read Big Brother? You should because we are edging towards it millimetre by millimetre


How will it affect you, red?

How will it affect anyone?


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:22pm

I've just checked my WA licence - it doesn't say anything about gender on there.

What effect will that have, if I get stopped by police?

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:23pm

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:19pm:
It is Political Correctness with a Capital 'P'

Anyone here read Big Brother? You should because we are edging towards it millimetre by millimetre


Tell me  Mr. Baron.  Grab your NSW Licence and tell me if your sex and height are listed on it.

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:23pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
I've just checked my WA licence - it doesn't say anything about gender on there.

What effect will that have, if I get stopped by police?


How about your height?

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:25pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:23pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:19pm:
It is Political Correctness with a Capital 'P'

Anyone here read Big Brother? You should because we are edging towards it millimetre by millimetre


Tell me  Mr. Baron.  Grab your NSW Licence and tell me if your sex and height are listed on it.


I've just checked mine.

It has my name, address, expiry date, class, photo, licence number, and date of birth.

That's all.




Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by red baron on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:29pm
I'm not gender X Gregg and never will be

I am a Male and I want Male stamped on my licence not some airy fairy left wing crap of X

You can be X if you like,  personally I think if you have a cock then M should be on your licence if you have a vagina then F should be there

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:29pm:
I'm not gender X Gregg and never will be

I am a Male and I want Male stamped on my licence not some airy fairy left wing crap of X

You can be X if you like,  personally I think if you have a cock then M should be on your licence if you have a vagina then F should be there


And prey tell....what is that date of the issue of that Licence, Mr Baron?

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:35pm

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:29pm:
I'm not gender X Gregg and never will be

I am a Male and I want Male stamped on my licence not some airy fairy left wing crap of X

You can be X if you like,  personally I think if you have a cock then M should be on your licence if you have a vagina then F should be there


Why?


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:38pm

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:29pm:
I am a Male and I want Male stamped on my licence not some airy fairy left wing crap of X

You can be X if you like, 


There's no x on my licence.

It just doesn't mention gender.

It also doesn't mention height, hair colour, eye colour, weight, or anything else.

Why is it so important to you that you have your gender recorded on your licence - is it hard to tell just from looking at you?


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by red baron on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:43pm
Now political correctness is making its way into your wallet: Queensland scraps GENDERS from its driver's licences after receiving complaints from the LGBTI community
•The Queensland Government will roll out new gender-less driver's licences
•The move comes as members of the LGBTI community argued discrimination
•But Department of Transport said technological advancements are the reason

By Nkayla Afshariyan For Daily Mail Australia

Published: 01:56 AEDT, 12 January 2018  | Updated: 02:01 AEDT, 12 January 2018 

The Queensland Government has scrapped a requirement for gender to be shown on all driver's licences, after complaints from the LGBTI community.

The Department of Transport and Main Roads (TMR) confirmed that height was also removed as a requirement, after concerns the collection of personal information was potentially discriminatory.

However, the Department said the move towards gender-less licences was due to the need to make driver's and marine licences compliant with new anti-discrimination laws, according to the Courier Mail.



The Queensland Government has scrapped a requirement for gender to be shown on all driver's licences, after complaints from the LGBTI community (pictured: sample photo of old licences with gender identified)


The Queensland Government has scrapped a requirement for gender to be shown on all driver's licences, after complaints from the LGBTI community (pictured: sample photo of old licences with gender identified)



The Department of Transport and Main Roads said the move was due to advancements in technology, but admitted to some complaints from LGBTI community (pictured: Roads Minister Mark Bailey)

The Department of Transport and Main Roads said the move was due to advancements in technology, but admitted to some complaints from LGBTI community (pictured: Roads Minister Mark Bailey)

Another reason for change was due to improvements in technology, a spokesman for Roads Minister Mark Bailey said.


'TMR has received complaints and suggestions from members of the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex community about displaying gender/sex (M or F) on TMR cards,' a department document said.

Other information, such as eye and hair colour, is also being removed from records attached to licences.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5258859/Queensland-roll-new-drivers-licence-without-gender.html#ixzz53wTW1dvx

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Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:44pm

Red?

There's no x on my licence.

It doesn't mention gender at all.

It also doesn't mention religion, height, hair colour, eye colour, weight, or anything else.

Why is it so important to you that you have your gender recorded on your licence - is it hard to tell just from looking at you?

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:46pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:23pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:19pm:
It is Political Correctness with a Capital 'P'

Anyone here read Big Brother? You should because we are edging towards it millimetre by millimetre


Tell me  Mr. Baron.  Grab your NSW Licence and tell me if your sex and height are listed on it.


Red - are they?


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by red baron on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:49pm
Do you have a cock Gregg - then like it or not you're a Male

Licence details are a necessary part of Law Enforcement

Police don't have time to jerk around with drivers ascertaining whether they are male, female or transsexual

This is just another prong from the Left wing wankers always looking at weakening the Law


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:51pm

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Do you have a cock Gregg - then like it or not you're a Male

Licence details are a necessary part of Law Enforcement

Police don't have time to jerk around with drivers ascertaining whether they are male, female or transsexual

This is just another prong from the Left wing wankers always looking at weakening the Law


Red, please pay attention.

A WA drivers licence does not record gender.

Does yours?

Moreover, the police officer pulling me over doesn't need to know if I have a cock or not.

Why would they (unless Sir Booby has joined the force, of course)?


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:55pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:29pm:
I'm not gender X Gregg and never will be

I am a Male and I want Male stamped on my licence not some airy fairy left wing crap of X

You can be X if you like,  personally I think if you have a cock then M should be on your licence if you have a vagina then F should be there


And prey tell....what is that date of the issue of that Licence, Mr Baron?


Mr Baron?



Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:55pm

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Police don't have time to jerk around with drivers ascertaining whether they are male, female or transsexual

Why would they need to know that?

Have you ever been asked your gender when pulled over for a random breast breath test?

I certainly haven't.

A police office has never asked me my gender.

Whether it be at a booze bus, for speeding, or for a random licence check, I have never been asked if I'm a man, woman, or transsexual.

Why would a traffic cop need to know that?

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:06pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:55pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:29pm:
I'm not gender X Gregg and never will be

I am a Male and I want Male stamped on my licence not some airy fairy left wing crap of X

You can be X if you like,  personally I think if you have a cock then M should be on your licence if you have a vagina then F should be there


And prey tell....what is that date of the issue of that Licence, Mr Baron?


Mr Baron?



Red wants every traffic cop to know he has a cock, but he's not sure why.

Strange.

I just did a check and, from my very basic research, it appears that QLD is the only state or territory that DOES currently show gender on a drivers licence.

Is that right?


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:08pm
Don't know, but I do know NSW and WA do not have sex recorded on the Licence.

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:12pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
Don't know, but I do know NSW and WA do not have sex recorded on the Licence.


And red still can't tell us why it's important to have it shown.

Does he have his gender recorded on his Medicare card?

His Blockbuster membership card?

His credit card?

His Frequent Flyers card?

His Myer One card?


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
Don't know, but I do know NSW and WA do not have sex recorded on the Licence.


And red still can't tell us why it's important to have it shown.

Does he have his gender recorded on his Medicare card?

His Blockbuster membership card?

His credit card?

His Frequent Flyers card?

His Myer One card?


I want to know why he has not been so outraged about his gender not being recorded on his Licence, previously and just today.  That's why I have asked when his current Licence was issued.  But, he is no longer in the Building.

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:18pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
Don't know, but I do know NSW and WA do not have sex recorded on the Licence.


And red still can't tell us why it's important to have it shown.

Does he have his gender recorded on his Medicare card?

His Blockbuster membership card?

His credit card?

His Frequent Flyers card?

His Myer One card?


I want to know why is has not been so outraged about his gender not being recorded on his Licence, previously and just today.  That's why I have asked when his current Licence was issued.  But, he is no longer in the Building.


It's pretty obvious that red gets outraged at what the media tells him to be outraged about.

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by The_Barnacle on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:21pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
Don't know, but I do know NSW and WA do not have sex recorded on the Licence.


Its not on Victorian licences either.


Although it did make my day seeing a report in the Herald/Sun about it and all the Victorian rightwards hysterically saying that it was "political correctness gone mad", not realising that their own Victorian licences don't have gender either.

And why is it even necessary anyway?

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:25pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:08pm:
Don't know, but I do know NSW and WA do not have sex recorded on the Licence.


Its not on Victorian licences either.


Although it did make my day seeing a report in the Herald/Sun about it and all the Victorian rightwards hysterically saying that it was "political correctness gone mad", not realising that their own Victorian licences don't have gender either.

And why is it even necessary anyway?


Still waiting for an answer from red on that one.

Are there different speed limits for women?

Are men allowed to have a higher blood alcohol concentration than women?

Is it okay for a woman to operate a phone whilst driving, but not a man?



Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:55pm
Mine licence says XX chromosomes , mesomorph , likes walks by sea candle lit dinners listens to Dolly Parton on you tube

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Black Orchid on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:06pm
Saw on Channel 7 news tonight re NSW   ...

"We have female and male drivers in NSW and that is not going to change on my watch"

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:08pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:06pm:
Saw on Channel 7 news tonight re NSW   ...

"We have female and male drivers in NSW and that is not going to change on my watch"


Is that recorded on their licence?



Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:15pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:06pm:
Saw on Channel 7 news tonight re NSW   ...

"We have female and male drivers in NSW and that is not going to change on my watch"


Wow!!! There are male and female drivers in NSW.

Gee, and no-one knew!

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:19pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:15pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:06pm:
Saw on Channel 7 news tonight re NSW   ...

"We have female and male drivers in NSW and that is not going to change on my watch"


Wow!!! There are male and female drivers in NSW.

Gee, and no-one knew!


Yes, quite extraordinary.

The only way people will know, is if they write it on everyone's driver's licence.

After that, maybe someone can explain why it's important to do so.

Red still hasn't come up with an explanation.


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:38pm

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Police don't have time to jerk around with drivers ascertaining whether they are male, female or transsexual


Why would the police need to know if the drivers are male, female, or transsexual red?

Are there different fines for different genders?

Can anyone help red out on this one?


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Fuzzball on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
I've just checked my WA licence - it doesn't say anything about gender on there.

What effect will that have, if I get stopped by police?


Depends on how much make-up you've got on; how high your 'heels' are, and of course how many socks you stuff in the bra you usually solicit in........dickless  ;D

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:01pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
I've just checked my WA licence - it doesn't say anything about gender on there.

What effect will that have, if I get stopped by police?


Depends on how much make-up you've got on; how high your 'heels' are, and of course how many socks you stuff in the bra you usually solicit in........dickless  ;D


Why would it depend on that?

Are the traffic fines different for people who do that?

Do men pay more for a speeding ticket than women?

Can you please elaborate?


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by hatman92 on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I've never heard of a traffic cop pulling people's pants down as part of a licence check.


I once got blindfolded before I had to suck on the breathalyser.   ;D   ;D

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Leftwinger on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:36pm

hatman92 wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I've never heard of a traffic cop pulling people's pants down as part of a licence check.


I once got blindfolded before I had to suck on the breathalyser.   ;D   ;D


See wasn't so bad voting yes

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Fit of Absent Mindeness on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:46pm
This beat up is a bunch of shite - other states don't have gender on their licenses.

This has nothing to do with ssm - this happened over 12 months before that vote.

Take your slippery slope argument and shove it.

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 13th, 2018 at 12:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 6:38pm:

red baron wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:49pm:
Police don't have time to jerk around with drivers ascertaining whether they are male, female or transsexual


Why would the police need to know if the drivers are male, female, or transsexual red?

Are there different fines for different genders?

Can anyone help red out on this one?


Still no answers, I see.


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by The_Barnacle on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:00pm

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:46pm:
This beat up is a bunch of shite - other states don't have gender on their licenses.


The tabloid press know that this sort of thing sells papers and is click bait. Thats why we see the "war on Christmas" every year. It gets the loony Right outraged and that gets clicks. The loony right just love to get outraged and they fell for this one hook line and sinker

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:03pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 1:00pm:

Fit of Absent Mindeness wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:46pm:
This beat up is a bunch of shite - other states don't have gender on their licenses.


The tabloid press know that this sort of thing sells papers and is click bait. Thats why we see the "war on Christmas" every year. It gets the loony Right outraged and that gets clicks. The loony right just love to get outraged and they fell for this one hook line and sinker

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


They sure did.

Red Baron had steam coming out of his ears, but when he was asked why, he had no answers.

Too funny    ;D


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 13th, 2018 at 3:37pm

hatman92 wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 7:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:07pm:
I've never heard of a traffic cop pulling people's pants down as part of a licence check.


I once got blindfolded before I had to suck on the breathalyser.   ;D   ;D


Sir Booby is always very polite when he gets pulled over.

"Would you like me to blow on that, officer?"


Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:30pm
What is next? Not being able to identify a perpetrator of an extreme crime because it would be racist, sexist, ageist, etc? Most people reach their full height by the time they are old enough to drive. Assuming the department of transport does another measurement of someone's height when they renew their licence, you would assume height is for the sake of quick identification. And gender helps in elimating about 50% of potential suspects.

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by Aussie on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:34pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
What is next? Not being able to identify a perpetrator of an extreme crime because it would be racist, sexist, ageist, etc? Most people reach their full height by the time they are old enough to drive. Assuming the department of transport does another measurement of someone's height when they renew their licence, you would assume height is for the sake of quick identification. And gender helps in elimating about 50% of potential suspects.


'Potential suspects' of what?

Title: Re: Now it is gender free licences
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:48pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:30pm:
What is next? Not being able to identify a perpetrator of an extreme crime because it would be racist, sexist, ageist, etc? Most people reach their full height by the time they are old enough to drive. Assuming the department of transport does another measurement of someone's height when they renew their licence, you would assume height is for the sake of quick identification. And gender helps in elimating about 50% of potential suspects.


"suspects"?

What on Earth are you talking about?

Why does a traffic cop need to know the gender of someone they've pulled over?


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