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Message started by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 8:44am

Title: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 8:44am
FOR WHAT?? A COMPLETE ARSEHOLE WHO SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN OUT OF JAIL IN THE FIRST PLACE.




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FOUR jail sentences over traffic ­offences, one nine-year driving ban and at least 10 convictions for driving while disqualified — yet the man at the centre of the Boxing Day horror crash which killed four people, including himself, was allowed back behind a wheel.

When Craig Whitall fatally smashed his Toyota Prado four-wheel-drive into the Falkholt family’s car on his way home from a methadone clinic, the 50-year-old had been declared an habitual traffic offender by the courts with more than 60 convictions to his name.

The revelations come as life support was turned off on Home and Away actor Jessica Falkholt. The 28-year-old had been clinging to life after the fiery head-on on the NSW south coast which claimed the lives of her parents Lars, 69, Vivian, 60, her sister Annabelle, 21, and Whitall.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal Whitall was a serial offender who was also claiming a disability pension and who had used 28 aliases to try to avoid the police as he totally ignored the law to drive a car literally each day after being caught.

Whitall had another nine convictions for driving without a licence — four of them in the one month.

Twice in just two days in 1998 he was caught driving without a licence.

He was so well known to police in Ulladulla that they easily recognised him behind the wheel while flag­rantly disregarding the traffic orders against him
In March 2011, they saw him drive past them in a white Holden Commodore and followed him home to Mollymook where he told them: “I wasn’t driving, it was me mum.”

Court documents show how in April 2008, he was convicted of two counts of assaulting a young family member because he was “angry” due to the child “being in trouble” with the police and having to attend Nowra Local Court frequently.

Shane Whitall was before Milton Local Court on Thursday, facing traffic, drug and break-and-enter ­offences.

Police have spoken to witnesses who saw Craig Whitall’s Prado swerving on to the opposite side of the road at least twice before the head-on crash on December 26.

He was driving on P plates just a year after getting his licence back.

But page after page of his criminal record shows the former drug addict was somehow behind the wheel ­despite having racked up over 60 traffic convictions. He had been banned for the whole nine years ­between July 2004 to July 2013.

It still didn’t keep him from ­driving.

In August 2004, he was jailed for nine months for driving while ­disqualified

A year later for the same offence he was jailed for 16 months and ­declared an habitual traffic offender at Nowra Local Court.

Courts can rule someone an­ ­habitual traffic offender if they have been convicted of three or more serious driving offences in the previous five years. It adds an automatic extra five years on to any driving ban.


Police have spoken to witnesses who saw Craig Whitall’s Prado swerving on to the opposite side of the road. Picture: 7 NEWS
Despite the extended ban, he was caught three times in four months in 2011 for driving while disqualified until in July 2011 he was jailed for nine months for the same offence.

His jail sentence was suspended from September after a successful appeal. He was handed another two-year driving ban — and ordered to pay a victim’s compensation levy of $67.

Yet despite all of this, Whitall got his licence back in December 2016.

His appalling record shows he was disqualified from driving for the first time before he even had a ­licence.

In the early ’80s he was caught driving while disqualified and convicted under one of his aliases — Jamie Robert Wilson.

He was caught back behind the wheel just months after that and committed to a juvenile institution until March 30, 1987.


The crash site that claimed the Falkholt Family on the NSW south coast.
On top of all of that, Whitall was also convicted three times of driving while over the alcohol limit, once of driving under the influence of drugs and twice for dangerous driving.

The horrific Boxing Day crash highlighted the shocking 2017 NSW road toll of 392 deaths.

A spokesman for the state’s road minister Melinda Pavey said Whitall’s Habitual Traffic ­Offender declaration had expired at the end of his disqualification period.

“The NSW Government shares the concerns of the community following the horror crash on Boxing Day,” the spokesman said.


THE son of the serial traffic ­offender who crashed head-on with the Falkholt family has faced court for a raft of traffic offences — including reckless driving.

Shane Andrew Whitall, 26, had a brief appearance in Milton Local Court on Thursday, a fortnight after his father, Craig, was killed in the horrific collision.


Shane Andrew Whitall outside Milton Courthouse on the NSW south coast.
Police allege that Shane Whitall was dangerously and recklessly driving an uninsured Toyota Camry in Ulladulla one night in September, 2017. At the time he allegedly had an expired licence. And police accuse him of failing to stop at a stop sign on South St in the town.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Gnads on Jan 12th, 2018 at 8:54am
Goes on all the time.

Blokes like him & it look like his son should be banned from driving for life early on.

If they continue to offend ...a substantial period in lockup.


Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 9:17am

At least he can't harm anyone else now.

Wish we could say the same about his son.

I suspect we'll be hearing a similar story about him in the near future.


Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 9:50am
he looks just like his father as well......defiant and full of drugs.... some folks are not worthy of living in the real world  they abuse everything...

imagine  taking a licence off an habitual offender and expecting him./her to abide by it...

seriously...I dont get it....he would drive by the local police station.......jail time didnt stop him... he probably never worked anyway .. so why would it.....

throw away the key...

he has wiped out a whole family....... >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by hatman92 on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:50pm
Who cares, it is only because this person had a bit part in a popular TV show that this even made the news for so long.

Hundreds of people get killed on our roads every year.  There are tens of thousands of road accidents every year.

No one really cares about road safety.  Cars are not even fitted with mandatory speed limiters. Powerful cars are not even banned.  Shows you how serious roads safety is taken.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:53pm

hatman92 wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:50pm:
Who cares, it is only because this person had a bit part in a popular TV show that this even made the news for so long.

Hundreds of people get killed on our roads every year.  There are tens of thousands of road accidents every year.

No one really cares about road safety.  Cars are not even fitted with mandatory speed limiters. Powerful cars are not even banned.  Shows you how serious roads safety is taken.


Correct.  Typical schmedia crap.  If it was Miss Very Ordinary-Nobody, no-one would hear of it.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:53pm

hatman92 wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:50pm:
Who cares, it is only because this person had a bit part in a popular TV show that this even made the news for so long.

Hundreds of people get killed on our roads every year.  There are tens of thousands of road accidents every year.

No one really cares about road safety.  Cars are not even fitted with mandatory speed limiters. Powerful cars are not even banned.  Shows you how serious roads safety is taken.


Normally I'd agree with you, but in this case I think it would still be in the news no matter who was killed or injured.

The guy who killed them is was not your average bad driver.

Hard to believe he was allowed out in public.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:53pm:

hatman92 wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:50pm:
Who cares, it is only because this person had a bit part in a popular TV show that this even made the news for so long.

Hundreds of people get killed on our roads every year.  There are tens of thousands of road accidents every year.

No one really cares about road safety.  Cars are not even fitted with mandatory speed limiters. Powerful cars are not even banned.  Shows you how serious roads safety is taken.


Normally I'd agree with you, but in this case I think it would still be in the news no matter who was killed or injured.

The guy who killed them is was not your average bad driver.

Hard to believe he was allowed out in public.


That bloke was also killed, so ask yourself.  How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper wanting to heap schit on the justice system, do you think?

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by lee on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:58pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed, so ask yourself.  How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper wanting to heap schit on the justice system, do you think?



From the Law List?

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:08pm

lee wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:58pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed, so ask yourself.  How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper wanting to heap schit on the justice system, do you think?



From the Law List?


a 'Law List' is in the major city newspapers daily, listing cases to he heard in which Court that day.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.


Whoever leaked this info to the media needs a medal.

It's the human slime lawyers and nandy pandy judges who help keep guys like this out of prison and the public need to know this info.




Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:34pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.


Whoever leaked this info to the media needs a medal.

It's the human slime lawyers and nandy pandy judges who help keep guys like this out of prison and the public need to know this info.


Okay, now you know.

What are you gonna do?


Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.


Whoever leaked this info to the media needs a medal.

It's the human slime lawyers and nandy pandy judges who help keep guys like this out of prison and the public need to know this info.


Okay, now you know.

What are you gonna do?


Gordon - what are you going to do with this vital information?


Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.


Whoever leaked this info to the media needs a medal.

It's the human slime lawyers and nandy pandy judges who help keep guys like this out of prison and the public need to know this info.


Okay, now you know.

What are you gonna do?


Gordon - what are you going to do with this vital information?


Having this information will giveeveryone the opportunity to petition their local member to ask why the scum sucking legal profession, lawyer, judges etc allowed a serial offender to be behind the wheel and wipe out a whole family.

Community expectations on this matter have not been met and the person who released this info is a righteous whistle-blower and needs a medal.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:58pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.


Whoever leaked this info to the media needs a medal.

It's the human slime lawyers and nandy pandy judges who help keep guys like this out of prison and the public need to know this info.


Okay, now you know.

What are you gonna do?


Gordon - what are you going to do with this vital information?


Having this information will giveeveryone the opportunity to petition their local member to ask why the scum sucking legal profession, lawyer, judges etc allowed a serial offender to be behind the wheel and wipe out a whole family.


So, have you done that?


Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.


Whoever leaked this info to the media needs a medal.

It's the human slime lawyers and nandy pandy judges who help keep guys like this out of prison and the public need to know this info.


Okay, now you know.

What are you gonna do?


Gordon - what are you going to do with this vital information?


Having this information will giveeveryone the opportunity to petition their local member to ask why the scum sucking legal profession, lawyer, judges etc allowed a serial offender to be behind the wheel and wipe out a whole family.


So, have you done that?


What I will or won't do is none of your business, but at least I'm defending a righteous whistle-blower.

Are you a scum sucking bottom feeding lawyer responsible for wiping out a whole family?

I imagine it's these types who would be most upset by a righteous whistle-blower.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Black Orchid on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:02pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
Community expectations on this matter have not been met and the person who released this info is a righteous whistle-blower and needs a medal.


Absolutely agree.   It is bad enough having to share the roads with foolish drivers who have not yet been caught let alone habitual offenders who continue to offend.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:06pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
Community expectations on this matter have not been met and the person who released this info is a righteous whistle-blower and needs a medal.


Absolutely agree.   It is bad enough having to share the roads with foolish drivers who have not yet been caught let alone habitual offenders who continue to offend.


So let's get all indignant about only 50% of the group you identify as 'foolish drivers.'  Good idea.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:08pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.


Whoever leaked this info to the media needs a medal.

It's the human slime lawyers and nandy pandy judges who help keep guys like this out of prison and the public need to know this info.


Okay, now you know.

What are you gonna do?


Gordon - what are you going to do with this vital information?


Having this information will giveeveryone the opportunity to petition their local member to ask why the scum sucking legal profession, lawyer, judges etc allowed a serial offender to be behind the wheel and wipe out a whole family.


So, have you done that?


What I will or won't do is none of your business...


It might not be my business, but it's common knowledge.

You'll do absolutely nothing.


Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:20pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
Community expectations on this matter have not been met and the person who released this info is a righteous whistle-blower and needs a medal.


Absolutely agree.   It is bad enough having to share the roads with foolish drivers who have not yet been caught let alone habitual offenders who continue to offend.



on at least 60 occasions.... these were the occasions  he was CAUGHT . imagine how many times he wasnt...

he was 50 for goodness sakes....50 with a record sheet like that.

and yes I can guarantee he had a legal every time he appeared in court and to add to it    the public would have paid for him and he would have put his hand out for the payment..   there is no shame in our legal world none at all...how they sleep I will never know..

to defend the indefensible .. I couldnt do it....no matter how much money was involved....

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:22pm
I believe Jessica is still fighting.....

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:22pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.


Whoever leaked this info to the media needs a medal.

It's the human slime lawyers and nandy pandy judges who help keep guys like this out of prison and the public need to know this info.


Okay, now you know.

What are you gonna do?


Gordon - what are you going to do with this vital information?


Having this information will giveeveryone the opportunity to petition their local member to ask why the scum sucking legal profession, lawyer, judges etc allowed a serial offender to be behind the wheel and wipe out a whole family.


So, have you done that?


What I will or won't do is none of your business...


It might not be my business, but it's common knowledge.

You'll do absolutely nothing.


Wow I thought you'd be supportive of a whistle-blower giving vital information about how a serial road pest can remain free and kill a whole family.

I can understand why scumbag human turd lawyers would have an issue with this but I really thought you'd be on the righteous side here.

Oh well.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:26pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:22pm:
I really thought you'd be on the righteous side here.






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Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:27pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:22pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:08pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:58pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:34pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:31pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
That bloke was also killed ...

The only good thing to come out of this.


Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 1:56pm:
How did the schmedia get all that information concerning his rap sheet.  Maybe from a corrupt  or disgruntled Copper ...

That would be my guess.


It should not happen.  It is at worst corruption, at least official misconduct.


Whoever leaked this info to the media needs a medal.

It's the human slime lawyers and nandy pandy judges who help keep guys like this out of prison and the public need to know this info.


Okay, now you know.

What are you gonna do?


Gordon - what are you going to do with this vital information?


Having this information will giveeveryone the opportunity to petition their local member to ask why the scum sucking legal profession, lawyer, judges etc allowed a serial offender to be behind the wheel and wipe out a whole family.


So, have you done that?


What I will or won't do is none of your business...


It might not be my business, but it's common knowledge.

You'll do absolutely nothing.


Wow I thought you'd be supportive of a whistle-blower giving vital information about how a serial road pest can remain free and kill a whole family.

I can understand why scumbag human turd lawyers would have an issue with this but I really thought you'd be on the righteous side here.

Oh well.


I don't remember saying that I was against the information being made public.

Perhaps you could refresh my memory    :-/

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Gordon on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:30pm

cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:20pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
Community expectations on this matter have not been met and the person who released this info is a righteous whistle-blower and needs a medal.


Absolutely agree.   It is bad enough having to share the roads with foolish drivers who have not yet been caught let alone habitual offenders who continue to offend.



on at least 60 occasions.... these were the occasions  he was CAUGHT . imagine how many times he wasnt...

he was 50 for goodness sakes....50 with a record sheet like that.

and yes I can guarantee he had a legal every time he appeared in court and to add to it    the public would have paid for him and he would have put his hand out for the payment..   there is no shame in our legal world none at all...how they sleep I will never know..

to defend the indefensible .. I couldnt do it....no matter how much money was involved....


They have blood on their hands. 

This is pretty much your local beach, Cods so it's your right to be informed.

I've been to Bendalong loads of times as we have friends who have a holiday house down there. 

Hopefully this tragedy and the leaking of the drivers abysmal record will enrage the community to do demand incarceration of such people.

To be informed is to be armed.
Praise the whistle-blower.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:39pm
Very sad. It would be more tragic had the perpetrator lived.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Black Orchid on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:42pm
A couple of years ago I had to lodge a document and went to North Sydney court to do so.    While I was there I thought I would sit in the court room and watch for a short while.

It was DUI after DUI after DUI and each and every one I sat through got let off.   One guy was on his third offence and still did not get his licence suspended.  Ohhh he needed his licence for work blah blah blah.    What about the innocents who have to share the road with these people?

Quite frankly, I was appalled.

Title: Re: LIFE SUPPORT SWITCHED OFF.
Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:47pm

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
A couple of years ago I had to lodge a document and went to North Sydney court to do so.    While I was there I thought I would sit in the court room and watch for a short while.

It was DUI after DUI after DUI and each and every one I sat through got let off.   One guy was on his third offence and still did not get his licence suspended.  Ohhh he needed his licence for work blah blah blah.    What about the innocents who have to share the road with these people?

Quite frankly, I was appalled.


Oh goody, so apart from being all righteously (and uselessly) huffy and puffy, what else do you do about it?

Was that the day Peta Credlin pleaded guilty to DUIL?

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Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm
hang em high

we need some justice


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE

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Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
hang em high

we need some justice


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE


He's dead, Booby.

::)

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Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:56pm

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:30pm:

cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:20pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 2:56pm:
Community expectations on this matter have not been met and the person who released this info is a righteous whistle-blower and needs a medal.


Absolutely agree.   It is bad enough having to share the roads with foolish drivers who have not yet been caught let alone habitual offenders who continue to offend.



on at least 60 occasions.... these were the occasions  he was CAUGHT . imagine how many times he wasnt...

he was 50 for goodness sakes....50 with a record sheet like that.

and yes I can guarantee he had a legal every time he appeared in court and to add to it    the public would have paid for him and he would have put his hand out for the payment..   there is no shame in our legal world none at all...how they sleep I will never know..

to defend the indefensible .. I couldnt do it....no matter how much money was involved....


They have blood on their hands. 

This is pretty much your local beach, Cods so it's your right to be informed.

I've been to Bendalong loads of times as we have friends who have a holiday house down there. 

Hopefully this tragedy and the leaking of the drivers abysmal record will enrage the community to do demand incarceration of such people.

To be informed is to be armed.
Praise the whistle-blower.

  I am sure the good people of "Molly"   are in shell shock as well gordy    such a lovely place with lovely people....Ulladulla   has attracted  a few not so good.. being bigger I guess......

but we all know the Princes Highway  is the devils highway......but no way is there any excuse for an accident like this...... :'( :'( :'( :'(

he was destined to kill.....someone needs to make changes  there must be something that will prevent someone from driving when they are banned....


come on guys stop spending money looking at Mars... and spend it here where it may do some good for mankind..

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Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:54pm:
hang em high

we need some justice


He's dead, Booby.

::)



He should have been hanged on his second offence.

Now he's cheated the hangman.

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Post by greggerypeccary on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:01pm

cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:56pm:
he was destined to kill.....someone needs to make changes  there must be something that will prevent someone from driving when they are banned....


Prison will stop them, but we can't really fill out jails with these idiots.

Microchips under the skin might be the answer.

Something that disables a car's ignition system.


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Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:04pm

Quote:
there must be something that will prevent someone from driving when they are banned....


Unless I have misread the Articles, he was not banned.  He had a Licence which authorised him to drive. 


Quote:
Whitall got his licence back in December 2016.



If that's the case, I guess it must have been those shifty, sleazy arsehole Lawyers and namby pamby Judges who gave it to him ey?

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Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:09pm

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:04pm:

Quote:
there must be something that will prevent someone from driving when they are banned....


Unless I have misread the Articles, he was not banned.  He had a Licence which authorised him to drive. 

[quote]Whitall got his licence back in December 2016.



If that's the case, I guess it must have been those shifty, sleazy arsehole Lawyers and namby pamby Judges who gave it to him ey?[/quote]



with 60 offences    a huge crime record...

he should have been banned for life....he was 50... n o accountability at all...

people like that do not deserve to run free.

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Post by Sir Bobby on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:13pm

cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:04pm:

Quote:
there must be something that will prevent someone from driving when they are banned....


Unless I have misread the Articles, he was not banned.  He had a Licence which authorised him to drive. 

[quote]Whitall got his licence back in December 2016.



If that's the case, I guess it must have been those shifty, sleazy arsehole Lawyers and namby pamby Judges who gave it to him ey?




with 60 offences    a huge crime record...

he should have been banned for life....he was 50... n o accountability at all...

people like that do not deserve to run free.[/quote]


banned for life

That's not a wise expression to use on Ozpolitic.

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Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:14pm
oh dear    that might be a trigger moment... sorry folks.

my mistake!

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Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:23pm

cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:09pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:04pm:

Quote:
there must be something that will prevent someone from driving when they are banned....


Unless I have misread the Articles, he was not banned.  He had a Licence which authorised him to drive. 

[quote]Whitall got his licence back in December 2016.



If that's the case, I guess it must have been those shifty, sleazy arsehole Lawyers and namby pamby Judges who gave it to him ey?




with 60 offences    a huge crime record...

he should have been banned for life....he was 50... n o accountability at all...

people like that do not deserve to run free.[/quote]

So...first you say he was banned when he drove the day of this terrible tragedy, and now you are saying he wasn't, but should have been.  If I had not corrected you, for how long would you have kept misleading everyone?

Why don't you get it right and not so wrong as often as you do?

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Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:26pm
not playing your stooopid games  go back to relationships please leave me alone....dont care what you think or twist...your deranged .. turning something like this into your usual crap heap of lets score brownie points...

just go away...

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Post by Alinta on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:01pm:

cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:56pm:
he was destined to kill.....someone needs to make changes  there must be something that will prevent someone from driving when they are banned....


Prison will stop them, but we can't really fill out jails with these idiots.

Microchips under the skin might be the answer.

Something that disables a car's ignition system.


Am thinking along similar wavelength.....

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Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:44pm

cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:26pm:
not playing your stooopid games  go back to relationships please leave me alone....dont care what you think or twist...your deranged .. turning something like this into your usual crap heap of lets score brownie points...

just go away...


Which is it cods.  Was he banned on the day of this incident, or not.  Just get on with it.  But get it right.

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Post by cods on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:31pm

Alinta wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 4:01pm:

cods wrote on Jan 12th, 2018 at 3:56pm:
he was destined to kill.....someone needs to make changes  there must be something that will prevent someone from driving when they are banned....


Prison will stop them, but we can't really fill out jails with these idiots.

Microchips under the skin might be the answer.

Something that disables a car's ignition system.


Am thinking along similar wavelength.....



in this guys case   maybe cut both hands off...sorry but .. its just happened again  almost in the same spot...


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/milton-horror-headon-collision-victims-fight-for-life/news-story/6720710f37346f3f0a83abf2c2558ee8

ANOTHER Sydney family has been torn apart and a private girls’ school is in mourning after a disastrous head-on crash killed a mother and left her husband and young son fighting for life.

Hamid Mobarrez, 36, was driving the family Subaru along Matron Porter Drive in Milton on the south coast with his wife Tamy, also aged 36, and their five-year-old son Eli, when police suspect an oncoming Volvo drifted into their path just before 4pm Thursday.

Eli sustained a critical head wound and was rushed to The Sydney Children’s Hospital, Randwick where he remained last night. His father Hamid remained in St George Hospital with fractures to his femur and pelvis.

But their wife and mother did not leave the crash scene alive. Paramedics worked on her multiple leg fractures and abdominal injuries for hours but could not keep her alive.

The driver of the Volvo, a south coast local, was taken to St George Hospital with minor injuries.

Hamid, a former professional swimmer who represented Iran in the men’s 100m at the Sydney 2000 Olympics, is head swimming coach at exclusive girls’ school Kincoppal Rose Bay. Tamy worked by his side as a swim teacher and office manager.




its cruel  isnt it??... no matter what they do they are gone forever..

such a shame  sick people on a social forum   have to poke fun and try to win points out of something as tragic as this.....


both of these accident should NOT HAVE HAPPENED>. >:( >:( >:( >:(


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Post by Aussie on Jan 12th, 2018 at 5:37pm
Which ones should and which ones should not happen, cods?

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Post by cods on Jan 13th, 2018 at 6:34am
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/craig-whitall-who-killed-falkholt-family-had-over-200-convictions/news-story/179783375aaf69cbad32becc51916a72


KILLER driver Craig Whitall racked up almost 200 convictions and spent more time in jail using the alias Jamie Robert Wilson.

The Saturday Telegraph can reveal that under that name, one of many pseudonyms he used, Whitall had another 183 convictions and a further five stints behind bars.

They include another 15 convictions for driving while disqualified, bringing his total to a shocking 25 before he caused the Boxing Day crash that killed three members of the Falkholt family.
It comes a day after the Telegraph revealed Whitall’s horrific driving history under his real name. Whitall had 63 traffic offences on his record, including four jail stints for driving while disqualified and being banned from July 2004 to July 2013.

As Wilson, he was also convicted of 26 counts of break, enter and steal as retired police said yesterday that whether terrorising homeowners or breaking into business premises around his hometown of Ulladulla, he liked to leave a disgusting calling card. He defecated.

“It had to be that it gave him some sort of psychological thrill rush,” one former officer said. “You can imagine the trauma of having your home broken into and then finding that smeared over the walls.”

From fare evasion, using heroin and administering Valium, his record as Wilson ­included dangerous driving, 28 convictions for driving an unregistered or unlicensed car, forgery, contravening domestic violence AVOs, assault and assaulting police.

Under one name or the other, Whitall had served time in most of the state’s toughest jails including the maximum security Metropolitan Remand and Reception Centre.
Even in prison he couldn’t help himself, with 37 offences behind bars including fighting, using threatening language, damaging bedding and clothing, feigning illness and regularly refusing to provide a urine sample as his drug ­addiction was monitored.

Police and the courts kept track of him through his Criminal Name Index number of 2234636, which remained the same no matter what after being confirmed through his fingerprints.

As Jamie Wilson, he first appeared in Ballina Local Court in the 1980s, for mid-range drink driving, driving a defective vehicle and having a smooth tyre.

As Craig Whitall, he first appeared at the same court eight days later charged with being an unlicensed driver, fraudulently using a licence and attempting to drive with a mid-range alcohol reading.

As Wilson, he was jailed for 12 months in 1998 for assault causing actual bodily harm and 12 months in 1999 for ­assault, resisting arrest and break enter and steal. He was jailed for nine months in 2003 for larceny, one week in 2004 for breaching a domestic violence apprehended violence order and later that year jailed for nine months for driving while disqualified.

His record shows him being jailed for another nine months in March 2011 for driving while disqualified.



NUFF SAID

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Post by Aussie on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:29pm
No, not at all.  There is one very relevant fact they left out this time.  I guess it would mess with the ever so complete picture they wanted to depict this time.


Quote:
Yet despite all of this, Whitall got his licence back in December 2016.


That he held a Licence at the time of this tragedy does not detract from his appalling history, but it does make that history complete and accurate, cods.


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Post by UnSubRocky on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:50pm
I thought the life support system was switched off and Jessica had passed away. Seems that she is still fighting for life.

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Post by Ajax on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:53pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 13th, 2018 at 5:50pm:
I thought the life support system was switched off and Jessica had passed away. Seems that she is still fighting for life.


When she passes it will be all over the news.

Sounds like she's a fighter, I hope she pulls through.... 8-)

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Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2018 at 6:21pm
Jessica has gone..... :'( :'( :'(

in my heart I know its for the best....

but so cruel... that poor family... :( :(

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Post by Gordon on Jan 17th, 2018 at 6:25pm

cods wrote on Jan 17th, 2018 at 6:21pm:
Jessica has gone..... :'( :'( :'(

in my heart I know its for the best....

but so cruel... that poor family... :( :(


So sad.

Did you hear about the truck accident at Dubbo, the young couple killed.

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Post by cods on Jan 17th, 2018 at 6:36pm
I know just horrible   the truck ran into the back of them all....

I dont know what the answer is.. they do as much as they can to widen roads..yet its those behind the wheel   that seem to be the cause....its almost impossible to change attitude isnt it?..

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Post by Gordon on Jan 17th, 2018 at 6:38pm

cods wrote on Jan 17th, 2018 at 6:36pm:
I know just horrible   the truck ran into the back of them all....

I dont know what the answer is.. they do as much as they can to widen roads..yet its those behind the wheel   that seem to be the cause....its almost impossible to change attitude isnt it?..


Autonomous emergency braking, it's so bloody good.


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