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DENMARK looks set to become the next European country to restrict the burqa and the niqab, worn by some Muslim women, after most parties in the Danish parliament backed some sort of ban on facial coverings.
Full and partial face veils such as burqas and niqabs divide opinion across Europe, setting advocates of religious freedom against secularists and those who argue that such garments are culturally alien or a symbol of the oppression of women.
Denmark is talking about implementing a ‘burqa ban’. Picture: AFP Photo/Nicolas Asfouri
Denmark is talking about implementing a ‘burqa ban’. Picture: AFP Photo/Nicolas AsfouriSource:AFP
The niqab covers everything but the eyes, while the burqa also covers the eyes with a transparent veil.
France, Belgium, Austria, the Netherlands, Bulgaria and the German state of Bavaria have all imposed some restrictions on the wearing of full-face veils in public places.
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“This is not a ban on religious clothing, this is a ban on masking,” Jacob Ellemann-Jensen, spokesman for the Liberal Party, told reporters on Friday after his party, the largest in the coalition government, decided to back a ban.
This would effectively mean a ban on the niqab and the burqa, he added.
Around 200 women in Denmark wear such garments, according to researchers.
The three-party centre-right minority government, its ally the Danish People’s Party and the main opposition Social Democrats have all said they are in favour of a ban, though they are still discussing how the ban should be designed and enforced.
“There will come a masking ban in Denmark. That’s how it is,” Foreign Minister Anders Samuelsen said on Facebook.

It most certainly is a ban on religious clothing, but do you know?

I have no problem with banning the burqa/niqab in government offices or services. I'm even open to banning them in public spaces.

Burqas make women stand out. They create fear, and in doing so, put those wearing them at risk. Burqas alienate their wearers. I know I never know where to look when I see one. 

No worries in Saudi Arabia where they're the norm, but in the West, I can't see them as anything other than a symbol of oppression.

This Movement to secularise immigrant Muslims when in public is rolling from country to country across the Western World.

It's unstoppable.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 11:20am:

This Movement to secularise immigrant Muslims when in public is rolling from country to country across the Western World. It's unstoppable.

You are dreaming Herb, if there was a movement, Merkel would have been given the boot. What we have seen is quite stoppable by the liberal-humanist media. Do you really think anything is being done to prevent the next Muzlim atrocity?

issuevoter wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 11:54am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:20am: This Movement to secularise immigrant Muslims when in public is rolling from country to country across the Western World. It's unstoppable. You are dreaming Herb, if there was a movement, Merkel would have been given the boot. What we have seen is quite stoppable by the liberal-humanist media. Do you really think anything is being done to prevent the next Muzlim atrocity?

All atrocities are ... atrocious, but you're focusing on the wrong people.

Just ask our resident nutter Islamophobe, Valkie.

"What we should be afraid of is truely intellegent lunatics.

"White, terrorists."

So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 2:05pm:

So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::)

And why would they do that?

They're not all nudists.

Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 9:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that?

Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::)

freediver wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

They're not all nudists.

Good god!  I hope not, otherwise wearing an all enveloping Burqa would make sense, now wouldn't it, FD?   :o ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:03pm:

Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman

we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it.

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:04pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it.

Particularly in Parliament!   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:03pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::)

Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ......

Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around.

Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::)

Well, we're dealing with a double standard here - the same 'culture' that expects 'modest women' to cover up also seeks, as a minority, to criticise those who do not follow that rule.

When you have been welcomed into a nation, seriously, you may voice those criticisms in private, but you must begin, at some time, to learn to fit in, rather than alienate others by making a firm rule that your way is the only way.

In the West, we get by on a degree (not total) of tolerance, and those who come here must accept tolerance as well.

So far in this nation, I see no demand that Muslim women not be modest or divest themselves of reasonable attire - it is only the full face cover that is creating problems  and the absolute determination of some in that group to adhere to that and condemn all others..... that last is intolerance, and it is not from 'this' side of the question.

Our preachers don't go around calling over-clad Muslim women covered meat pies to be devoured at any time.... unlike those who say that Western women exercising their right to wear what they want means they are 'cat meat'.

I've actually made eye contact with a hijab wearing woman more than once, and unfortunately I have no real idea what her response is to meeting me .. I have no idea that she might feel that in making eye contact I may be intent on raping her or whatever... on the other hand she has no idea of what my thoughts are.

These things are a barrier to communication, and left alone, and outside of a very primitive 'culture', would make a lot of difference to the way people interact.

My observation of that lady's eyes was that she was uncertain, and that she did not fear rape from me, but that she was longing to 'get out' and was uncertain about what to do and how to behave, and for my part, I wondered what kind of person was inside that 'tent' .... what is that phrase so in vogue? .... 'coming out of the closet'......

I don't see that as offensive in this nation... I've had Arab-derived girlfriends who are fabulous in many ways.. but I will never be a Muslim.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::)

You should test out you brilliant theory over in Saudi, not complying to a particilar county's set of norms.

You could explain how you're a muslim apologist and have been yawning at islamophobes on the internet and are there to prove a point.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

You comply with the norms of the society you're in, no matter who you are, or what ooga booga religious bullsh1t you believe.

Muslims can still wear a burqa. Just not in public. After all, it is western society and they can choose whats acceptable.
Same goes with islamic countries. So there is no problem.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it. Particularly in Parliament!   ::)

on public transport   in coffee shops....

its a bit like changing nappies... it has to be done... but not in my face thank you..

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it. Particularly in Parliament!   ::) on public transport   in coffee shops.... its a bit like changing nappies... it has to be done... but not in my face thank you..

It's nothing like changing nappies.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::)

Do you think it is normal to not rape women? Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims?

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it. Particularly in Parliament!   ::) on public transport   in coffee shops.... its a bit like changing nappies... it has to be done... but not in my face thank you..

I hope your not refering to breast feeding?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::)

Yes, Brian, but most of what is posted here aims to insult you or others.

It is a jolly world, no?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:10am:

cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:00am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it. Particularly in Parliament!   ::) on public transport   in coffee shops.... its a bit like changing nappies... it has to be done... but not in my face thank you.. It's nothing like changing nappies.

but its the next step... people whinged until women had public change rooms where they could feed their bubs in private....so everywhere we go we have these very nice rooms laid out for them   so what do they do they demand to be allowed to do it anywhere and everywhere...OH THE CRY GOES UP>>> ITS NATURAL>...babies need to be fed... and yes guess what they need to be changed as well...shock horror.

yep all over the place at any time... why shouldnt a mum put the rotting nappy in the gutter if thats all there is?????...... >:( >:( >:(

why not under the seat on a bus... yep it wont be long.... just watch.   its all NATURAL AFTER ALL>

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:00am:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it. Particularly in Parliament!   ::) on public transport   in coffee shops.... its a bit like changing nappies... it has to be done... but not in my face thank you..

You can always turn your face away, Cods.  No one forces you to watch a woman breastfeeding her baby.  You're like that woman the other day who attacked a man for changing his baby's nappy in the Parenting Room at the local Shopping Mall.   I've done that many times and never had a complaint, indeed I was often complimented on being prepared to do that.   I just took it as normal for being a parent.    ::)

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:10am: cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:00am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it. Particularly in Parliament!   ::) on public transport   in coffee shops.... its a bit like changing nappies... it has to be done... but not in my face thank you.. It's nothing like changing nappies. but its the next step... people whinged until women had public change rooms where they could feed their bubs in private....so everywhere we go we have these very nice rooms laid out for them   so what do they do they demand to be allowed to do it anywhere and everywhere...OH THE CRY GOES UP>>> ITS NATURAL>...babies need to be fed... and yes guess what they need to be changed as well...shock horror. yep all over the place at any time... why shouldnt a mum put the rotting nappy in the gutter if thats all there is?????...... >:( >:( >:( why not under the seat on a bus... yep it wont be long.... just watch.   its all NATURAL AFTER ALL>

Ah.

The slippery slope.

Mind you don't fall on your arse, codsey baby.

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 12:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Do you think it is normal to not rape women? Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims?

We already do, FD.  Tell me the next time rape is accepted by any cultural group in Australia...   It is illegal and it is wrong - something the majority of Australians accept, no matter what their beliefs might be.    ::)

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 3:12pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Yes, Brian, but most of what is posted here aims to insult you or others. It is a jolly world, no?

Nope.  It isn't.  If people deliberately set out to insult people it is anarchy.   ::)

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:10am: cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:00am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it. Particularly in Parliament!   ::) on public transport   in coffee shops.... its a bit like changing nappies... it has to be done... but not in my face thank you.. It's nothing like changing nappies. but its the next step... people whinged until women had public change rooms where they could feed their bubs in private....so everywhere we go we have these very nice rooms laid out for them   so what do they do they demand to be allowed to do it anywhere and everywhere...OH THE CRY GOES UP>>> ITS NATURAL>...babies need to be fed... and yes guess what they need to be changed as well...shock horror. yep all over the place at any time... why shouldnt a mum put the rotting nappy in the gutter if thats all there is?????...... >:( >:( >:( why not under the seat on a bus... yep it wont be long.... just watch.   its all NATURAL AFTER ALL>

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Me, I always had a plastic bag for dirty nappies which I then deposited in the nearest rubbish bin.   So, were you confined to the house, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, Cods?  Is that why you're so angry all the time?   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Do you think it is normal to not rape women? Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? We already do, FD.  Tell me the next time rape is accepted by any cultural group in Australia...   It is illegal and it is wrong - something the majority of Australians accept, no matter what their beliefs might be.    ::)

Duh. I know we already do. Over the last few centuries we have killed a lot of Muslims in an effort to stamp out the practice. We are still not there yet.

I was asking you whether we should Brian. Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims?

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:45pm: freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Do you think it is normal to not rape women? Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? We already do, FD.  Tell me the next time rape is accepted by any cultural group in Australia...   It is illegal and it is wrong - something the majority of Australians accept, no matter what their beliefs might be.    ::) Duh. I know we already do. Over the last few centuries we have killed a lot of Muslims in an effort to stamp out the practice. We are still not there yet. I was asking you whether we should Brian. Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims?

How about you, FD? Should Australia ban the burqa?

You haven't said.

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:47pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 3:12pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Yes, Brian, but most of what is posted here aims to insult you or others. It is a jolly world, no? Nope.  It isn't.  If people deliberately set out to insult people it is anarchy.   ::)

No no, It's Freeeeedom.

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:43pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 7:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:45pm: freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Do you think it is normal to not rape women? Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? We already do, FD.  Tell me the next time rape is accepted by any cultural group in Australia...   It is illegal and it is wrong - something the majority of Australians accept, no matter what their beliefs might be.    ::) Duh. I know we already do. Over the last few centuries we have killed a lot of Muslims in an effort to stamp out the practice. We are still not there yet. I was asking you whether we should Brian. Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? How about you, FD? Should Australia ban the burqa? You haven't said.

I have. Gandalf likes to trot it out as the exception that proves the rule.

If we ever ban the burka we should at least get a dispensation for Pauline, it was by far the best she ever looked.

Even a nice little hijab would look nice in parliament

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:37pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:43pm: freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 7:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:45pm: freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Do you think it is normal to not rape women? Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? We already do, FD.  Tell me the next time rape is accepted by any cultural group in Australia...   It is illegal and it is wrong - something the majority of Australians accept, no matter what their beliefs might be.    ::) Duh. I know we already do. Over the last few centuries we have killed a lot of Muslims in an effort to stamp out the practice. We are still not there yet. I was asking you whether we should Brian. Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? How about you, FD? Should Australia ban the burqa? You haven't said. I have. Gandalf likes to trot it out as the exception that proves the rule.

Oh, I see.

And what is that exception, FD?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:50pm:

cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:10am: cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:00am: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:05pm: John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:04pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman we should also ban breastfeeding while we're at it. Particularly in Parliament!   ::) on public transport   in coffee shops.... its a bit like changing nappies... it has to be done... but not in my face thank you.. It's nothing like changing nappies. but its the next step... people whinged until women had public change rooms where they could feed their bubs in private....so everywhere we go we have these very nice rooms laid out for them   so what do they do they demand to be allowed to do it anywhere and everywhere...OH THE CRY GOES UP>>> ITS NATURAL>...babies need to be fed... and yes guess what they need to be changed as well...shock horror. yep all over the place at any time... why shouldnt a mum put the rotting nappy in the gutter if thats all there is?????...... >:( >:( >:( why not under the seat on a bus... yep it wont be long.... just watch.   its all NATURAL AFTER ALL> http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/128170/2467911-yawn_20smiley.jpg Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Tsk, tsk.  Me, I always had a plastic bag for dirty nappies which I then deposited in the nearest rubbish bin.   So, were you confined to the house, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, Cods?  Is that why you're so angry all the time?   ::) ::)

.. somehow I cannot see you changing a dirty nappy...in public...tsk tsk... where would you wash your hands... omg.. dont go there... :-[

I am not angry pet  just cant come to grips with your rudeness...it really is beyond any adult I have come across...but I guess its the norm where you comes from..

however  yes I did stay home with my babies...now you come to mention it  the first 5 years of their life was very important to me   and yes looking back I and hubby gave up quite a lot....that btw was the norm for families in my day...us mum had to plan ahead...and everything fitted around babies  feeding schedule in the early weeks...which invariably followed with the dirty nappy... :) :) :)... we didnt put them in bags and throw them away  to share with the rest of the world like you do today.. :) :).. we were better at managing the planet..

what has that all got to do with burqa??...

:D :D :D

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 10:44pm:

.. somehow I cannot see you changing a dirty nappy...in public...tsk tsk... where would you wash your hands... omg.. dont go there...

when my baby has a dirty nappy that's the last thing I worried about. Leaving them in a dirty nappy leads to nappy rash.

My kids got changed as soon as either I or their mum noticed. No matter where we were.


My kids (or any kids for that matter) health is more important than your sensitivities.

oh  I am glad you cleared that up....

glad I wasnt around in coffee shops when you were out with the pram.. :D :D

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 10:46pm:

cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:44pm: .. somehow I cannot see you changing a dirty nappy...in public...tsk tsk... where would you wash your hands... omg.. dont go there... when my baby has a dirty nappy that's the last thing I worried about. Leaving them in a dirty nappy leads to nappy rash. My kids got changed as soon as either I or their mum noticed. No matter where we were. My kids (or any kids for that matter) health is more important than your sensitivities.

Did you take them out of the sandpit first?

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:46pm: cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:44pm: .. somehow I cannot see you changing a dirty nappy...in public...tsk tsk... where would you wash your hands... omg.. dont go there... when my baby has a dirty nappy that's the last thing I worried about. Leaving them in a dirty nappy leads to nappy rash. My kids got changed as soon as either I or their mum noticed. No matter where we were. My kids (or any kids for that matter) health is more important than your sensitivities. Did you take them out of the sandpit first?

;D ;D ;D ;D..

only on wet days ;D ;D

freediver wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:46pm: cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:44pm: .. somehow I cannot see you changing a dirty nappy...in public...tsk tsk... where would you wash your hands... omg.. dont go there... when my baby has a dirty nappy that's the last thing I worried about. Leaving them in a dirty nappy leads to nappy rash. My kids got changed as soon as either I or their mum noticed. No matter where we were. My kids (or any kids for that matter) health is more important than your sensitivities. Did you take them out of the sandpit first?

you only get to ask question after you learn to answer them.

freediver wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:45pm: freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Do you think it is normal to not rape women? Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? We already do, FD.  Tell me the next time rape is accepted by any cultural group in Australia...   It is illegal and it is wrong - something the majority of Australians accept, no matter what their beliefs might be.    ::) Duh. I know we already do. Over the last few centuries we have killed a lot of Muslims in an effort to stamp out the practice. We are still not there yet. I was asking you whether we should Brian. Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims?

Thats right Brian - we only kill muslims because we are trying to stamp out rape.

Kill them.

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 10:45pm:

what has that all got to do with burqa??...

You're the one telling the story, Cods.   ::)

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:24pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 7:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:45pm: freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Do you think it is normal to not rape women? Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? We already do, FD.  Tell me the next time rape is accepted by any cultural group in Australia...   It is illegal and it is wrong - something the majority of Australians accept, no matter what their beliefs might be.    ::) Duh. I know we already do. Over the last few centuries we have killed a lot of Muslims in an effort to stamp out the practice. We are still not there yet. I was asking you whether we should Brian. Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? Thats right Brian - we only kill muslims because we are trying to stamp out rape.

We kill them for a variety of reasons Gandalf.

How about you - do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims?

polite_gandalf wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 1:24pm:

freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 7:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:45pm: freediver wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 12:06pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:33pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:17pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:03pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:01pm: Brian Ross wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 2:05pm: So. is Denmark going to ban the Bikini as well?   ::) ::) And why would they do that? Because some people find it alarming to see a woman's navel displayed in public, Caveman.   Surely if we are going to see the freedom to dress how Muslim women like curtailed, we can see the same attitude displayed towards beach going women?   Tsk, tsk,  surely not suggesting that the Danes are Islamophobic?   ::) Why?  They're only being asked to conform to the nation they've sought out as their best possible future.... they can dress any way they like - as long as it doesn't cover their faces ..... not that there's anything wrong with that - most of them aren't worth looking at anyway.. but there was one lass..... ah.... all those moments.... like teardrops in the rain ...... Why would that nation's women have to change their ways to suit a minority of supplicants seeking refuge?  Surely it's the other way around. Why should anybody have to conform to any standard set by others, Graps?   Surely you don't want to conform to "normal behavior" as defined by Herbie or Soren or Yadda or even me?   I don't particularly care what people post, as long as it isn't directly insulting to me or others.   ::) ::) Do you think it is normal to not rape women? Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? We already do, FD.  Tell me the next time rape is accepted by any cultural group in Australia...   It is illegal and it is wrong - something the majority of Australians accept, no matter what their beliefs might be.    ::) Duh. I know we already do. Over the last few centuries we have killed a lot of Muslims in an effort to stamp out the practice. We are still not there yet. I was asking you whether we should Brian. Do you think we should impose this cultural standard on Muslims? Thats right Brian - we only kill muslims because we are trying to stamp out rape.

Damn - I thought we were only trying to get rid of the burka ?

Brian Ross wrote on Oct 12^th, 2017 at 4:35pm:

cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 10:45pm: what has that all got to do with burqa??... You're the one telling the story, Cods.   ::)

no pet that was you and your mate js...tsk tsk.

cods wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 9:34am:

[urlhttp://www.news.com.au/world/europe/denmark-set-to-be-the-latest-country-to-implement-a-burqa-ban/news-story/45aaf4f350cffac473cef74a4885d12c][/url] DENMARK looks set to become the next European country to restrict the burqa and the niqab, worn by some Muslim women, after most parties in the Danish parliament backed some sort of ban on facial coverings. Full and partial face veils such as burqas and niqabs divide opinion across Europe, setting advocates of religious freedom against secularists and those who argue that such garments are culturally alien or a symbol of the oppression of women. Denmark is talking about implementing a ‘burqa ban’. Picture: AFP Photo/Nicolas Asfouri Denmark is talking about implementing a ‘burqa ban’. Picture: AFP Photo/Nicolas AsfouriSource:AFP The niqab covers everything but the eyes, while the burqa also covers the eyes with a transparent veil. France, Belgium, Austria, the Netherlands, Bulgaria and the German state of Bavaria have all imposed some restrictions on the wearing of full-face veils in public places. MORE: Austria’s ‘burqa ban’ comes into force Pauline Hanson turns up to Parliament in full burqa Nationals vote down burqa ban at federal conference Anti-immigration group mistakes bus seats for burqas “This is not a ban on religious clothing, this is a ban on masking,” Jacob Ellemann-Jensen, spokesman for the Liberal Party, told reporters on Friday after his party, the largest in the coalition government, decided to back a ban. This would effectively mean a ban on the niqab and the burqa, he added. Around 200 women in Denmark wear such garments, according to researchers. The three-party centre-right minority government, its ally the Danish People’s Party and the main opposition Social Democrats have all said they are in favour of a ban, though they are still discussing how the ban should be designed and enforced. “There will come a masking ban in Denmark. That’s how it is,” Foreign Minister Anders Samuelsen said on Facebook.

It's a flaccid start.

Just ban islam and deport every muslim. Repossess all their assets.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 13^th, 2017 at 7:10am:

cods wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 9:34am: [urlhttp://www.news.com.au/world/europe/denmark-set-to-be-the-latest-country-to-implement-a-burqa-ban/news-story/45aaf4f350cffac473cef74a4885d12c][/url] DENMARK looks set to become the next European country to restrict the burqa and the niqab, worn by some Muslim women, after most parties in the Danish parliament backed some sort of ban on facial coverings. Full and partial face veils such as burqas and niqabs divide opinion across Europe, setting advocates of religious freedom against secularists and those who argue that such garments are culturally alien or a symbol of the oppression of women. Denmark is talking about implementing a ‘burqa ban’. Picture: AFP Photo/Nicolas Asfouri Denmark is talking about implementing a ‘burqa ban’. Picture: AFP Photo/Nicolas AsfouriSource:AFP The niqab covers everything but the eyes, while the burqa also covers the eyes with a transparent veil. France, Belgium, Austria, the Netherlands, Bulgaria and the German state of Bavaria have all imposed some restrictions on the wearing of full-face veils in public places. MORE: Austria’s ‘burqa ban’ comes into force Pauline Hanson turns up to Parliament in full burqa Nationals vote down burqa ban at federal conference Anti-immigration group mistakes bus seats for burqas “This is not a ban on religious clothing, this is a ban on masking,” Jacob Ellemann-Jensen, spokesman for the Liberal Party, told reporters on Friday after his party, the largest in the coalition government, decided to back a ban. This would effectively mean a ban on the niqab and the burqa, he added. Around 200 women in Denmark wear such garments, according to researchers. The three-party centre-right minority government, its ally the Danish People’s Party and the main opposition Social Democrats have all said they are in favour of a ban, though they are still discussing how the ban should be designed and enforced. “There will come a masking ban in Denmark. That’s how it is,” Foreign Minister Anders Samuelsen said on Facebook. It's a flaccid start. Just ban islam and deport every muslim. Repossess all their assets.

you would drive it underground   serve no purpose..

if you have any daughters   never drive away the boyfriends from hell....its the worst thing you can do....