A good article.


A suburban hair salon, an anti-Muslim tirade and what it says about hate speech in Australia

Such hair as I have is cut from time to time by Mrs E, who runs a one-chair salon in my neighbourhood.

She has been in business there for 40 years. She knows all about the history of the street and many of her clients have been coming to her for half a lifetime.

The salon is shut on Mondays, when she cuts the hair of the elderly and disabled in various local institutions.

Mrs E is a petite woman with a cloud of brown hair, a bright smile and that empathetic personality that fits so many hairdressers for their parallel occupation of informal counsellor.

Under her hairdresser's smock she wears a dress or a blouse and trousers.

She came to Australia as a child from the Balkans, grew up, married, had two sons.

Australia is home and a place where she says she has always felt welcome, until the other day.

A client whose hair she had been cutting for 20 years came in as usual, and then, without any prompting or preamble, launched into a tirade against Muslims.

Mrs E heard her out. As a rule, like most sensible businesspeople, she resists being drawn into conversations about sex, religion or politics.

But eventually it became too much. "I'm a Muslim," she told the client, "and I very much regret that after 20 years I must tell you I will no longer cut your hair".
The salon contains no outward sign of her faith: nothing in her appearance or in the room itself gives it away. For her, it is something private; nothing to do with her professional life.

It happened that I came in about a week later. Mrs E and I often talk in general terms about what's going on in the world.

She knows I am a journalist and academic and I think she feels safe pushing her conversational boundaries slightly.

She told me this story and as she did so, the hurt was written all over her face.

And after nearly a lifetime in Australia, she said she felt just that little bit less welcome.

Hate speech seeping into Australian society

So this is how it goes.

Hate speech becomes part of the currency of national debate and is exploited for political purposes.

In 1996, Pauline Hanson delivers her notorious maiden speech in which she says Australia is being "swamped by Asians".

John Howard, as prime minister, dog-whistles that this is all about free speech.

In 2001, the so-called Tampa election occurs.

Boat people — overwhelmingly Muslim — become the butt of Howard's assertion of national sovereignty: "We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come."

There are votes in this and both sides of politics pile on.

In the midst of the 2013 election, Labor's Kevin Rudd — the same man who claims Dietrich Bonhoeffer as an inspiration — slams the door on asylum seekers by striking deals, with Nauru and Papua New Guinea, that Australia is still living with.

In 2014, the Federal Government tries to weaken the Racial Discrimination Act in what is said to be in the interests of free speech.

Attorney-General George Brandis asserts that "people have a right to be bigots".
In 2015, research conducted for the Melbourne Social Equity Institute finds that the single most important driver of negative attitudes toward asylum seekers is religious prejudice, sometimes expressed as concern about the "Islamisation" of Australia.

In August 2017, Senator Hanson wears a burqa into Senate Question Time.

Senator Brandis discovers where bigotry can lead and assails her for an "appalling stunt" disrespectful of the Muslim faith.

Eventually, the political licensing of racism and religious intolerance seeps into the fabric of society. It might take a generation or it might take longer.

But when it does it stains and rots that fabric, eating away at people's sense of belonging, undermining the Australian multicultural project, and in a small suburban hair salon, a middle-aged woman feels emboldened to vent her prejudice, doing harm and hurt to someone who has been tending her person for 20 years.

Dennis Muller is a senior research fellow at the University of Melbourne's Centre for Advancing Journalism.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-09/anti-muslim-tirade-hairdresser-and-hate-speech-in-australia/9029746






the politics of division is alive and well in this country.

lucky for us... it was only  WORDS.....

you may see or hear it as racist  and may even claim  it isnt ....  but some things DO still go deep..

I am talking about the subject of the Republic...a topic  very much on the minds of the  left leaning side of Australians. and when it rears its head   .some of the things that have been said in the past  have been down right cruel and nasty....... and I am sure many more in the future.will be the same....

and yes they can go deep.. and yes they do have an affect of making some of us from the old country feel unwelcome / unwanted call it what you like...

I have been told .. dont like it here go back where you come from..... who asked you to come here.? and so it went on...yep it happens....


we get told to turn the other cheek...

is it Australian  to speak like that.... ANTI everything   


no I dont think so....

I like to think those people are few and far between   that lady and I am sorry she heard all that   but one women in 20 years   is not all that ugly....some people lash out because they see their lives changing  because of things that happen elsewhere...

this lady may have been hurt by this customers   but I am sure she still thanks the lord she lives in this country.. I know I do!

cods wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:56am:

I have been told .. dont like it here go back where you come from..... who asked you to come here.? and so it went on...yep it happens....

you think it happens to you? try being from a non english background.


cods wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:56am:

but one women in 20 years

you don't honestly believe that?

Just yesterday I took the kids kayaking. A random woman stopped for a chat cause my kids started patting her dog. the first thing she choose to go on about was how bad the muslims are, all the while going on about how she wasn't racist cause she used to play with her greek/ italian friends from school when she was a teenager. I'd never met her in my life, and within 60 seconds of meeting me that's what she choose to talk about?
Ohh, and I suspect the only reason she did so was cause she picked through my wifes accent that we were european. I doubt we would have had the same conversation if I was a pom

I saw this on the Conversation.

Brilliant article.

The Hanson effect: how hate seeps in and damages us all

https://theconversation.com/the-hanson-effect-how-hate-seeps-in-and-damages-us-all-85314

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:15pm:

cods wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 11:56am: I have been told .. dont like it here go back where you come from..... who asked you to come here.? and so it went on...yep it happens.... you think it happens to you? try being from a non english background. not over the republic thats for sure.. its human nature  I think.. cods wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 11:56am:  but one women in 20 years you don't honestly believe that? Just yesterday I took the kids kayaking. A random woman stopped for a chat cause my kids started patting her dog. the first thing she choose to go on about was how bad the muslims are, all the while going on about how she wasn't racist cause she used to play with her greek/ italian friends from school when she was a teenager. I'd never met her in my life, and within 60 seconds of meeting me that's what she choose to talk about? Ohh, and I suspect the only reason she did so was cause she picked through my wifes accent that we were european. I doubt we would have had the same conversation if I was a pom

I was talking about what the lady in your post said......she said she had been cutting her hair for 20 years....then out of the blue she started...

people are in fear today...this is the whole problem...

Im not  I feel very safe and secure   but a lot dont........

do you still speak with an accent?   or did your wife come here later?....when I first came here...foreigners were called New Australians...and or Wogs...one girl I worked with had married an Italian  she was a real aussie shelia..said filims instead of films 
just like Kath and Kim really....but some of the blokes gave her a hard time she didnt care...he was a good man  and I am sure now people have changed their minds on how they thought back then...

they were afraid of the influx...a lot of 10 pound poms as they w ere called flooded here as well I wasnt one of them..my husband was here and I didnt want the wait  so had to find my own way over....


but yes   its sad people have this problem  I do hope you set her right and told her not to be afraid...the govt will look out for you.. :) :) :)

I forgot to mention I was called a pommie bastard I am sure you remember that sweet term.... ;D ;D

Hate is governed by Fear   fear of the unknown...and we have a need to take it out on someone..

like now its Hansons fault as if there was NO Hate in the world Before Pauline.. >:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:45pm:

do you still speak with an accent?

no

cods wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:45pm:

or did your wife come here later?..

my wife came about 11 yrs ago, she has the accent

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:48pm:

cods wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 12:45pm: do you still speak with an accent?    no cods wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 12:45pm:  or did your wife come here later?.. my wife came about 11 yrs ago, she has the accent

well I still get picked as a POM  I am shocked   I think its a lucky guess its got to be....Im a Londoner not from the north

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:26am:

A good article. A suburban hair salon, an anti-Muslim tirade and what it says about hate speech in Australia Such hair as I have is cut from time to time by Mrs E, who runs a one-chair salon in my neighbourhood. She has been in business there for 40 years. She knows all about the history of the street and many of her clients have been coming to her for half a lifetime. The salon is shut on Mondays, when she cuts the hair of the elderly and disabled in various local institutions. Mrs E is a petite woman with a cloud of brown hair, a bright smile and that empathetic personality that fits so many hairdressers for their parallel occupation of informal counsellor. Under her hairdresser's smock she wears a dress or a blouse and trousers. She came to Australia as a child from the Balkans, grew up, married, had two sons. Australia is home and a place where she says she has always felt welcome, until the other day. A client whose hair she had been cutting for 20 years came in as usual, and then, without any prompting or preamble, launched into a tirade against Muslims. Mrs E heard her out. As a rule, like most sensible businesspeople, she resists being drawn into conversations about sex, religion or politics. But eventually it became too much. "I'm a Muslim," she told the client, "and I very much regret that after 20 years I must tell you I will no longer cut your hair". The salon contains no outward sign of her faith: nothing in her appearance or in the room itself gives it away. For her, it is something private; nothing to do with her professional life. It happened that I came in about a week later. Mrs E and I often talk in general terms about what's going on in the world. She knows I am a journalist and academic and I think she feels safe pushing her conversational boundaries slightly. She told me this story and as she did so, the hurt was written all over her face. And after nearly a lifetime in Australia, she said she felt just that little bit less welcome. Hate speech seeping into Australian society So this is how it goes. Hate speech becomes part of the currency of national debate and is exploited for political purposes. In 1996, Pauline Hanson delivers her notorious maiden speech in which she says Australia is being "swamped by Asians". John Howard, as prime minister, dog-whistles that this is all about free speech. In 2001, the so-called Tampa election occurs. Boat people — overwhelmingly Muslim — become the butt of Howard's assertion of national sovereignty: "We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come." There are votes in this and both sides of politics pile on. In the midst of the 2013 election, Labor's Kevin Rudd — the same man who claims Dietrich Bonhoeffer as an inspiration — slams the door on asylum seekers by striking deals, with Nauru and Papua New Guinea, that Australia is still living with. In 2014, the Federal Government tries to weaken the Racial Discrimination Act in what is said to be in the interests of free speech. Attorney-General George Brandis asserts that "people have a right to be bigots". In 2015, research conducted for the Melbourne Social Equity Institute finds that the single most important driver of negative attitudes toward asylum seekers is religious prejudice, sometimes expressed as concern about the "Islamisation" of Australia. In August 2017, Senator Hanson wears a burqa into Senate Question Time. Senator Brandis discovers where bigotry can lead and assails her for an "appalling stunt" disrespectful of the Muslim faith. Eventually, the political licensing of racism and religious intolerance seeps into the fabric of society. It might take a generation or it might take longer. But when it does it stains and rots that fabric, eating away at people's sense of belonging, undermining the Australian multicultural project, and in a small suburban hair salon, a middle-aged woman feels emboldened to vent her prejudice, doing harm and hurt to someone who has been tending her person for 20 years. Dennis Muller is a senior research fellow at the University of Melbourne's Centre for Advancing Journalism. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-09/anti-muslim-tirade-hairdresser-and-hate-speech-in-australia/9029746 the politics of division is alive and well in this country.

All I can see is an article about what happened in a small hair dressing salon that had NOTHING to do with racial hatred at all.  ::)

Nonsense.

People should continue to express their opinions regardless of what it is .. so long as it is done discreetly, politely, and on appropriate occasions.

From what I can understand from the story, the woman delivering the anti-Islam rant wasn't aware the hairdresser is a Muslim.

The term 'Hate Speech' is baby-talk terminology. The question that needs asking is How correct is what the 'offender' has said?

We've just been treated to a month of the most violent and vile 'Hate Speech' coming from the 'Yes' ~ screw his arse with a ring-on-your-finger mob with not a solitary mention by any of the media's writers and commentators about 'Hate Speech' against the 'NO' mob.

What did the ranter in the Hairdresser's shop say?

Or would that be too counter-productive to reveal because the contents pass The Pub Test?

Well, bigotry can be discrete but tell me, Herbie? How can it be polite or appropriate?

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

People should continue to express their opinions regardless of what it is .. so long as it is done discreetly, politely, and on appropriate occasions.

people should keep to opinions to themselves unless asked. I certainly  don't walk around offering opinions on issues to random strangers.


Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

We've just been treated to a month of the most violent and vile 'Hate Speech' coming from the 'Yes' ~ screw his arse with a ring-on-your-finger mob with not a solitary mention by any of the media's writers and commentators about 'Hate Speech' against the 'NO' mob.

really? pointing out the arguments are flawed isn't hate speech you more on

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:25pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:22pm: People should continue to express their opinions regardless of what it is .. so long as it is done discreetly, politely, and on appropriate occasions. People should keep their opinions to themselves unless asked. I certainly don't walk around offering opinions on issues to random strangers.

I agree with you 100%. (But as a 20-year long client she was hardly talking to a 'random stranger'. Do try to read your own cut-n-pastes a little more carefully).

You might notice there I popped in "on appropriate occasions".

During a Road rage
At Barbecues
On the Groom's Night Out
In the soccer stands
etc

Nothing wrong with some good solid hate....gotta keep subhumans in their place.

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Nothing wrong with some good solid hate....gotta keep subhumans in their place.

Do you hate it when the tabs come unstuck?


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mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Well, bigotry can be discrete but tell me, Herbie? How can it be polite or appropriate?

How can it be appropriate to give your country away to terrorists just because they make developers lots of money?

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:44pm:

Do you hate it when the tabs come unstuck?

Do you hate it when you get banned and the pigs ignore your pleas?  8-)

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

Well, bigotry can be discrete but tell me, Herbie? How can it be polite or appropriate?

Hush!

The men are talking.

I can hear the kettle boiling.

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:44pm: Do you hate it when the tabs come unstuck? Do you hate it when you get banned and the pigs ignore your pleas?

Maybe the larger sized ones will help you with the problem of the tabs coming unstuck.


http://www.timdelivers.com/images/Attends/Attend%203XL.png


Try them for a few nights, and let us know how you go.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:54pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:24pm: Well, bigotry can be discrete but tell me, Herbie? How can it be polite or appropriate? Hush! The men are talking. I can hear the kettle boiling.

That's the best you could come up with?

How long did that take?

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Nothing wrong with some good solid hate....gotta keep subhumans in their place.

That's true, Doctor, but we need to deal with them in a scientific manner.

If the subhumans step out of line, they should be dealt with in a calm, clinical fashion, in the fullnesss of time.

Poor pecker, it's been a rough month for you but it's okay man. Let it all out.  ;D

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 12:38pm:

I saw this on the Conversation. Brilliant article. The Hanson effect: how hate seeps in and damages us all https://theconversation.com/the-hanson-effect-how-hate-seeps-in-and-damages-us-all-85314

judging by the title it's bias bullsh so unlike you I wont waste time reading it. :D :D :D :D :D

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:54pm: mothra wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:24pm: Well, bigotry can be discrete but tell me, Herbie? How can it be polite or appropriate? Hush! The men are talking. I can hear the kettle boiling. That's the best you could come up with? How long did that take?

Black for me, dear. Herbie'll have his usual.

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 3:06pm:

Herbie'll have his usual.

Cup of hot water with a spot of milk? Intravenously?

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 3:08pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:06pm: Herbie'll have his usual. Cup of hot water with a spot of milk? Intravenously?

Just fill up his catheter. Herb'll take it from there.

He may not live to see the day, but Herbie sleeps well in the knowledge that you fifth columnists and collaborators will be rounded up and shot in the back of the neck, in the fullness of time.

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 3:06pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:55pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:54pm: mothra wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:24pm: Well, bigotry can be discrete but tell me, Herbie? How can it be polite or appropriate? Hush! The men are talking. I can hear the kettle boiling. That's the best you could come up with? How long did that take? Black for me, dear. Herbie'll have his usual.

so relieved you didnt ask fro a sandwich   women of strength are not allowed to make sandwiches for mere males at risk of being kicked  out of club womenhood...so watch your mouth herbie..

Waffle waffle waffle....

how many topics will you lot ruin today eh?

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 3:08pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:06pm: Herbie'll have his usual. Cup of hot water with a spot of milk? Intravenously?

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Grendel wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 3:15pm:

Waffle waffle waffle.... how many topics will you lots ruin today eh?

Leave Grendel alone, leftards, and don't waste his time.

Agree with him instead.

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:44pm: Do you hate it when the tabs come unstuck? Do you hate it when you get banned and the pigs ignore your pleas?  8-)

Ouch! 😱

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 3:26pm:

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:50pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:44pm: Do you hate it when the tabs come unstuck? Do you hate it when you get banned and the pigs ignore your pleas?  8-) Ouch! 😱

Did something bite you, dear?

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:31pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:25pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:22pm: People should continue to express their opinions regardless of what it is .. so long as it is done discreetly, politely, and on appropriate occasions. People should keep their opinions to themselves unless asked. I certainly don't walk around offering opinions on issues to random strangers. I agree with you 100%. (But as a 20-year long client she was hardly talking to a 'random stranger'. Do try to read your own cut-n-pastes a little more carefully). You might notice there I popped in "on appropriate occasions". During a Road rage At Barbecues On the Groom's Night Out In the soccer stands etc

it's certainly not appropriate to express your hatred of muslims when you are getting your hair done.  They're there to cut your hair and as part of that they engage in idle chit chat.

Also, After 20 yrs I would at least know where my hairdresser is from. The customer in this case was an ignorant fool.


edit: I'll also note that if this particular muslim lived up to her customers expectations, those scissors would have been used for something other than cutting hair.

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:44pm: Do you hate it when the tabs come unstuck? Do you hate it when you get banned and the pigs ignore your pleas?  8-)

I don't think he's particularly fussed if you ignore him, no!

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:26am:

"She has been in business there for 40 years."

Impossible.  Muslims don't work.

Ask The Moronic - he'll tell you.


John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:26am:

"A client whose hair she had been cutting for 20 years ..."

It must be pretty tough hair.

Grendel wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 3:15pm:

Waffle waffle waffle.... how many topics will you lots ruin today eh?

Exactly.

The same monkey cage of Usual Suspects abusing FD's hospitality by closing down thread after thread with their ad hominem playground antics instead of addressing the topics.

Ultimately FD is the main loser for extending his forum board to be a child-minding centre.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 4:56pm:

Grendel wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:15pm: Waffle waffle waffle.... how many topics will you lots ruin today eh? Exactly. The same monkey cage of Usual Suspects abusing FD's hospitality by closing down thread after thread with their ad hominem playground antics instead of addressing the topics.

Like you telling me to make the men a cup of tea?

Face it Herbie, you can dish it out but you can't take it.

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

Face it Herbie, you can dish it out but you can't take it.

herbie an expert at crying every time he gets what he dishes out. He's had lots of practice

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 4:58pm:

Like you telling me to make the men a cup of tea? Face it Herbie, you can dish it out but you can't take it.

Context, Mothra.

I still hold out hope for you, but meanwhile you're skating on thin ice. As the Matron of this tedious group you should be showing some leadership in counselling them to FAR MORE discuss, debate, argue, and brawl over the Subject Matter of topics than playing silly monkey-games like naughty boys in a classroom before the teacher has arrived.

I'm appointing you to be the Prefect of this woeful lot, and I shall expect a marked improvement in their behaviour over the next few days and weeks.

Otherwise it's back to the Tea Room with you.

Or should that be the Tuck Shop?

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:17pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 4:58pm: Like you telling me to make the men a cup of tea? Face it Herbie, you can dish it out but you can't take it. Context, Mothra. I still hold out hope for you, but meanwhile you're skating on thin ice. As the Matron of this tedious group you should be showing some leadership in counselling them to FAR MORE discuss, debate, argue, and brawl over the Subject Matter of topics than playing silly monkey-games like naughty boys in a classroom before the teacher has arrived. I'm appointing you to be the Prefect of this woeful lot, and I shall expect a marked improvement in their behaviour over the next few days and weeks. Otherwise it's back to the Tea Room with you. Or should that be the Tuck Shop?

Would you care for me to underline all of the ad hominems in that, Herbie?

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 4:56pm:

Grendel wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:15pm: Waffle waffle waffle.... how many topics will you lots ruin today eh? Exactly. The same monkey cage of Usual Suspects abusing FD's hospitality by closing down thread after thread with their ad hominem playground antics instead of addressing the topics. Ultimately FD is the main loser for extending his forum board to be a child-minding centre.

With John and Gregg working like trolls to restore their embarrassingly high post counts FD benefits from ad revenue.    :) 

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:32pm:

With John and Gregg working like trolls to restore their embarrassingly high post counts FD benefits from ad revenue.    :)

Aaah ... so THAT's why FD keeps these monkeys here? It figures.

And keeps Mothra here to make the tea ....  ;D

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:51pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:32pm: With John and Gregg working like trolls to restore their embarrassingly high post counts FD benefits from ad revenue.    :)  Aaah ... so THAT's why FD keeps these monkeys here? It figures. And keeps Mothra here to make the tea ...

Now we just need to figure out why he keeps you here?

Any ideas, Herr Bert?

Its a shame the muzzos dont get a mention on how they

Condemn non muzzos

Demand murder for anyone justly criticizing the CULT

The 90% of muzzos who are criminals and who attack Australians everyvday.

But if one person has a rant, ITS A MAJOR CONSPIRACY OF RACIAL HATRED

NEWS FOR YOU LOT OF ILLITERATE S

MUZZOS ARE NOT A RACE,

THEY ARE A HATEFUL, BRUTAL, PRIMITIVE, PEDOPHILE INFESTED BUNCH OF BIGOTS AND MURDERIOUS CRIMINALS

Get it right people

Hating muzzos is not race hate, no matter how much you want it to be.

Its simply common sense to hate something this evil.

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 3:31pm:

it's certainly not appropriate to express your hatred of muslims when you are getting your hair done.  They're there to cut your hair and as part of that they engage in idle chit chat. Also, After 20 yrs I would at least know where my hairdresser is from. The customer in this case was an ignorant fool. edit: I'll also note that if this particular muslim lived up to her customers expectations, those scissors would have been used for something other than cutting hair.

We're in heated agreement.

I would never have embarrassed the lady with a rant like that.

But interestingly, John, do you know what my ethnic workmates used to call  me for hiding my 'true' feelings for not speaking up? "Typical British hypocrisy".

Blurting out what you really think, no matter how offensive or inappropriate the circumstance, was thought to be a case of you 'talking straight' - 'Not being deceitful' - 'Being commendably honest' - and to hell with you keeping a civilised and respectful tongue in your head.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

Now we just need to figure out why he keeps you here? Any ideas, Herr Bert?

Do YOU, John Smith, and the Tea Lady know why he keeps me here?  8-)

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:52pm: Now we just need to figure out why he keeps you here? Any ideas, Herr Bert? Do YOU, John Smith, and the Tea Lady know why he keeps me here?  8-)

Yes.

You're an Islamophobe.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:47pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 8:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:52pm: Now we just need to figure out why he keeps you here? Any ideas, Herr Bert? Do YOU, John Smith, and the Tea Lady know why he keeps me here?  8-) Yes. You're an Islamophobe.

But then why does he keep you thread vandals here?

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 8:47pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 8:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:52pm: Now we just need to figure out why he keeps you here? Any ideas, Herr Bert? Do YOU, John Smith, and the Tea Lady know why he keeps me here?  8-) Yes. You're an Islamophobe. But then why does he keep you thread vandals here?

No buts.

You're an Islamophobe.

A racist, bigoted, homophobic, Islamophobe.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:56pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 8:47pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 8:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:52pm: Now we just need to figure out why he keeps you here? Any ideas, Herr Bert? Do YOU, John Smith, and the Tea Lady know why he keeps me here?  8-) Yes. You're an Islamophobe. But then why does he keep you thread vandals here?

Its amazing how the sycophant, sympathiser, apologists throw the words islamaphobe and homophobe around as if its something to be ashamed of.

The simple fact is that being a brutal, primitive retarded muzzo gains you no consideration other than contempt and disgust.

The same for being one of the alphabet mob LGBTIQSP
There is nothing positive about being one of these mentally ill creatures who see the sewer as a playground.

The truth is that these creatures who throw these words homophobe and islamaphobe are in fact
Christophobes and Hetrophobes.

And the stupidity of their alliance becomes clear when one examines the doctrines of the two groups

The LGBTIQSP mob profess to hate homophobes
The feminists hate men who take them for granted or dont consider them equal

And yet the muzzos hate homosexual, with such fervour that they murder them.
The muzzos treat women with contempt and consider them far less than equal.

These two groups are mutually exclusive and yet are championed by the left wing idiooots.

It just shows you how stoooopid they are.

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Grendel wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 5:05am:

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;D ;D ;D

Valkie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 3:44am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 8:56pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 8:47pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 8:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:52pm: Now we just need to figure out why he keeps you here? Any ideas, Herr Bert? Do YOU, John Smith, and the Tea Lady know why he keeps me here?  8-) Yes. You're an Islamophobe. But then why does he keep you thread vandals here? Its amazing how the sycophant, sympathiser, apologists throw the words islamaphobe and homophobe around as if its something to be ashamed of. The simple fact is that being a brutal, primitive retarded muzzo gains you no consideration other than contempt and disgust. The same for being one of the alphabet mob LGBTIQSP There is nothing positive about being one of these mentally ill creatures who see the sewer as a playground. The truth is that these creatures who throw these words homophobe and islamaphobe are in fact Christophobes and Hetrophobes. And the stupidity of their alliance becomes clear when one examines the doctrines of the two groups The LGBTIQSP mob profess to hate homophobes The feminists hate men who take them for granted or dont consider them equal And yet the muzzos hate homosexual, with such fervour that they murder them. The muzzos treat women with contempt and consider them far less than equal. These two groups are mutually exclusive and yet are championed by the left wing idiooots. It just shows you how stoooopid they are.

It's rare to find such an abundance of ignorance in one place, yet here we have it.   

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 3:31pm: it's certainly not appropriate to express your hatred of muslims when you are getting your hair done.  They're there to cut your hair and as part of that they engage in idle chit chat. Also, After 20 yrs I would at least know where my hairdresser is from. The customer in this case was an ignorant fool. edit: I'll also note that if this particular muslim lived up to her customers expectations, those scissors would have been used for something other than cutting hair. We're in heated agreement. I would never have embarrassed the lady with a rant like that. But interestingly, John, do you know what my ethnic workmates used to call  me for hiding my 'true' feelings for not speaking up? "Typical British hypocrisy". Blurting out what you really think, no matter how offensive or inappropriate the circumstance, was thought to be a case of you 'talking straight' - 'Not being deceitful' - 'Being commendably honest' - and to hell with you keeping a civilised and respectful tongue in your head.

I doubt they were calling you a hypocrite for not abusing anyone. I suspect it was cause you bitch about them cause they're tinted behind their back, then pretend to be their best buddy in front of them.

besides, 50 yrs ago it was a different era. Were women even allowed out of the kitchen back then?

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 8:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 5:52pm: Now we just need to figure out why he keeps you here? Any ideas, Herr Bert? Do YOU, John Smith, and the Tea Lady know why he keeps me here?  8-)

you're an Islamaphobe.

Valkie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 3:44am:

Its amazing how the sycophant, sympathiser, apologists throw the words islamaphobe and homophobe around as if its something to be ashamed of. The simple fact is that being a brutal, primitive retarded muzzo gains you no consideration other than contempt and disgust. The same for being one of the alphabet mob LGBTIQSP There is nothing positive about being one of these mentally ill creatures who see the sewer as a playground. The truth is that these creatures who throw these words homophobe and islamaphobe are in fact Christophobes and Hetrophobes. And the stupidity of their alliance becomes clear when one examines the doctrines of the two groups The LGBTIQSP mob profess to hate homophobes The feminists hate men who take them for granted or dont consider them equal And yet the muzzos hate homosexual, with such fervour that they murder them. The muzzos treat women with contempt and consider them far less than equal. These two groups are mutually exclusive and yet are championed by the left wing idiooots. It just shows you how stoooopid they are.

Just how do you manage to fit so much stupidity in so few words?

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 11:47am:

Valkie wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 3:44am: Its amazing how the sycophant, sympathiser, apologists throw the words islamaphobe and homophobe around as if its something to be ashamed of. The simple fact is that being a brutal, primitive retarded muzzo gains you no consideration other than contempt and disgust. The same for being one of the alphabet mob LGBTIQSP There is nothing positive about being one of these mentally ill creatures who see the sewer as a playground. The truth is that these creatures who throw these words homophobe and islamaphobe are in fact Christophobes and Hetrophobes. And the stupidity of their alliance becomes clear when one examines the doctrines of the two groups The LGBTIQSP mob profess to hate homophobes The feminists hate men who take them for granted or dont consider them equal And yet the muzzos hate homosexual, with such fervour that they murder them. The muzzos treat women with contempt and consider them far less than equal. These two groups are mutually exclusive and yet are championed by the left wing idiooots. It just shows you how stoooopid they are. Just how do you manage to fit so much stupidity in so few words?

He did well in that post.

If his aim was to prove to the world that he knows next to nothing about religion or homosexuality, he nailed it.

John Smith wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 11:47am:

Valkie wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 3:44am: Its amazing how the sycophant, sympathiser, apologists throw the words islamaphobe and homophobe around as if its something to be ashamed of. The simple fact is that being a brutal, primitive retarded muzzo gains you no consideration other than contempt and disgust. The same for being one of the alphabet mob LGBTIQSP There is nothing positive about being one of these mentally ill creatures who see the sewer as a playground. The truth is that these creatures who throw these words homophobe and islamaphobe are in fact Christophobes and Hetrophobes. And the stupidity of their alliance becomes clear when one examines the doctrines of the two groups The LGBTIQSP mob profess to hate homophobes The feminists hate men who take them for granted or dont consider them equal And yet the muzzos hate homosexual, with such fervour that they murder them. The muzzos treat women with contempt and consider them far less than equal. These two groups are mutually exclusive and yet are championed by the left wing idiooots. It just shows you how stoooopid they are. Just how do you manage to fit so much stupidity in so few words?

You see, you idiot, that's not an answer to the points that have been made in his post. You're not a little schoolboy in the playground ~ you're supposed to be a fully-fledged adult who has the intellect to respond to the points he's made.

It's this endless series of ad hominem childishness and laziness which is going to eventually kill this board of any worthy posters.

mothra wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 2:55pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:54pm: mothra wrote on Oct 9th, 2017 at 2:24pm: Well, bigotry can be discrete but tell me, Herbie? How can it be polite or appropriate? Hush! The men are talking. I can hear the kettle boiling. That's the best you could come up with? How long did that take?

Until the whistle blew .....   ;D

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:47am: Valkie wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 3:44am: Its amazing how the sycophant, sympathiser, apologists throw the words islamaphobe and homophobe around as if its something to be ashamed of. The simple fact is that being a brutal, primitive retarded muzzo gains you no consideration other than contempt and disgust. The same for being one of the alphabet mob LGBTIQSP There is nothing positive about being one of these mentally ill creatures who see the sewer as a playground. The truth is that these creatures who throw these words homophobe and islamaphobe are in fact Christophobes and Hetrophobes. And the stupidity of their alliance becomes clear when one examines the doctrines of the two groups The LGBTIQSP mob profess to hate homophobes The feminists hate men who take them for granted or dont consider them equal And yet the muzzos hate homosexual, with such fervour that they murder them. The muzzos treat women with contempt and consider them far less than equal. These two groups are mutually exclusive and yet are championed by the left wing idiooots. It just shows you how stoooopid they are. Just how do you manage to fit so much stupidity in so few words? You see, you idiot, that's not an answer to the points that have been made in his post.

The only point he's made, is the one we already knew: he has absolutely no idea what he's talking about.

There's nothing even close to a reasonable or rational argument in that post of his.

It's just the mindless ramblings of a senile old man, with way too much time on his hands, and way too much hatred in his heart.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:12pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 11:47am: Valkie wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 3:44am: Its amazing how the sycophant, sympathiser, apologists throw the words islamaphobe and homophobe around as if its something to be ashamed of. The simple fact is that being a brutal, primitive retarded muzzo gains you no consideration other than contempt and disgust. The same for being one of the alphabet mob LGBTIQSP There is nothing positive about being one of these mentally ill creatures who see the sewer as a playground. The truth is that these creatures who throw these words homophobe and islamaphobe are in fact Christophobes and Hetrophobes. And the stupidity of their alliance becomes clear when one examines the doctrines of the two groups The LGBTIQSP mob profess to hate homophobes The feminists hate men who take them for granted or dont consider them equal And yet the muzzos hate homosexual, with such fervour that they murder them. The muzzos treat women with contempt and consider them far less than equal. These two groups are mutually exclusive and yet are championed by the left wing idiooots. It just shows you how stoooopid they are. Just how do you manage to fit so much stupidity in so few words? You see, you idiot, that's not an answer to the points that have been made in his post. You're not a little schoolboy in the playground ~ you're supposed to be a fully-fledged adult who has the intellect to respond to the points he's made. It's this endless series of ad hominem childishness and laziness which is going to eventually kill this board of any worthy posters.

he didn't make any points Herb. he went into a hysterical tantrum. When my kids do that I don't encourage them by trying to counter their arguments, that would only prolong the tantrum. Instead I send them to bed and let them sleep it off.

After their nap, the kids are always calm and more reasonable.  I'm not sure a nap would help calm valkie down.

Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made.


You two are bone-bloody-lazy, and that's why more than half your posts are just one-liner shithouse graffiti.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made.

Quite seriously, none of his points are worthy of consideration.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:31pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. Quite seriously, none of his points are worthy of consideration.

Then keep quiet.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made.

newsflash Herb, I don't post for your entertainment. I post for my entertainment.




I know you're in shock to discover that, but that's the way it is.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. Quite seriously, none of his points are worthy of consideration. Then keep quiet.

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Here you go Herbie, let's look at this point:

"The same for being one of the alphabet mob LGBTIQSP

"There is nothing positive about being one of these mentally ill creatures who see the sewer as a playground."

Now, first of all, homosexuality isn't a mental illness.

Secondly, what does he mean about "the sewer as a playground"?

I'm going to take a guess, and assume that he's talking about anal sex.

The simple fact of the matter is, about the same amount of heterosexual couples enjoy anal sex as do homosexual couples.

So, is he saying that heterosexuals are suffering from a mental illness?

As I said, his points just aren't worthy of consideration.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. You two are bone-bloody-lazy, and that's why more than half your posts are just one-liner shithouse graffiti.

I generally ignore it, it has shown in the past that it is nothing but a troll and has no counter argument other than insults and abuse.

But you are correct in saying that I made some relevant points.
Points they cannot argue against.

Homosexuality is an abnormality.
Lets explore that
When something consists of a tiny percentage of a group, it is seen as an abnormality.
Now, humans are in fact animals
The primary drive of animals is propergation of the species.
Homosexuals cannot carry on the species, therfore they are abnormal to the primary drive of ALL animals.

Now if something is abnormal, by definition it is not representative of the species and must therfore be mentally deficient or mentally ill.

Finally
The fact that these individual have to associate with ever more abstract groups
Lesbians, Gays, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex, Questioning, Sologomy and Pedophiles
LGBTIQSP

The more twisted and devided they become, the more letters are added
Is this the action of a sane mind?


Now the second argument I have
And onevwhic all the homosexual, lesbian, feminist sympathisers refuse to consider or answer.

Muzzos HATE pooftahs, they murder them daily
Muzzos BELIEVE tgat women are only worth half or less than a man and subjugate women, abuse them and beat them with the CULTs agreement

And yet the pooftahs, lesbians and feminists protect and support this CULT.

Do they believe that the muzzos will give them any leeway?
Are they stooopid enough to think the muzzos will allow them to continue their perverted practices if they get their way?

Now
Lets hear the arguments againt these truths?

Or will I simply be called a homophobe and islamaphobe by Christophobes and Hetrophobes?

I know what the answer will be.

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 12:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:31pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. Quite seriously, none of his points are worthy of consideration. Then keep quiet.

Exactly. It's talking back that gets these leftards banned.

They never learn.

Valkie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. You two are bone-bloody-lazy, and that's why more than half your posts are just one-liner shithouse graffiti. I generally ignore it, it has shown in the past that it is nothing but a troll and has no counter argument other than insults and abuse. But you are correct in saying that I made some relevant points. Points they cannot argue against. Homosexuality is an abnormality. Lets explore that When something consists of a tiny percentage of a group, it is seen as an abnormality. Now, humans are in fact animals The primary drive of animals is propergation of the species. Homosexuals cannot carry on the species, therfore they are abnormal to the primary drive of ALL animals. Now if something is abnormal, by definition it is not representative of the species and must therfore be mentally deficient or mentally ill. Finally The fact that these individual have to associate with ever more abstract groups Lesbians, Gays, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex, Questioning, Sologomy and Pedophiles LGBTIQSP The more twisted and devided they become, the more letters are added Is this the action of a sane mind? Now the second argument I have And onevwhic all the homosexual, lesbian, feminist sympathisers refuse to consider or answer. Muzzos HATE pooftahs, they murder them daily Muzzos BELIEVE tgat women are only worth half or less than a man and subjugate women, abuse them and beat them with the CULTs agreement And yet the pooftahs, lesbians and feminists protect and support this CULT. Do they believe that the muzzos will give them any leeway? Are they stooopid enough to think the muzzos will allow them to continue their perverted practices if they get their way? Now Lets hear the arguments againt these truths? Or will I simply be called a homophobe and islamaphobe by Christophobes and Hetrophobes? I know what the answer will be.

Who's Matty?

Valkie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. You two are bone-bloody-lazy, and that's why more than half your posts are just one-liner shithouse graffiti. I generally ignore it, it has shown in the past that it is nothing but a troll and has no counter argument other than insults and abuse. But you are correct in saying that I made some relevant points. Points they cannot argue against. Homosexuality is an abnormality. Lets explore that When something consists of a tiny percentage of a group, it is seen as an abnormality. Now, humans are in fact animals The primary drive of animals is propergation of the species. Homosexuals cannot carry on the species, therfore they are abnormal to the primary drive of ALL animals. Now if something is abnormal, by definition it is not representative of the species and must therfore be mentally deficient or mentally ill. Finally The fact that these individual have to associate with ever more abstract groups Lesbians, Gays, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex, Questioning, Sologomy and Pedophiles LGBTIQSP The more twisted and devided they become, the more letters are added Is this the action of a sane mind? Now the second argument I have And onevwhic all the homosexual, lesbian, feminist sympathisers refuse to consider or answer. Muzzos HATE pooftahs, they murder them daily Muzzos BELIEVE tgat women are only worth half or less than a man and subjugate women, abuse them and beat them with the CULTs agreement And yet the pooftahs, lesbians and feminists protect and support this CULT. Do they believe that the muzzos will give them any leeway? Are they stooopid enough to think the muzzos will allow them to continue their perverted practices if they get their way? Now Lets hear the arguments againt these truths? Or will I simply be called a homophobe and islamaphobe by Christophobes and Hetrophobes? I know what the answer will be.

That's was the biggest load of crap I've ever seen.

Next!

Valkie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. You two are bone-bloody-lazy, and that's why more than half your posts are just one-liner shithouse graffiti. I generally ignore it, it has shown in the past that it is nothing but a troll and has no counter argument other than insults and abuse. But you are correct in saying that I made some relevant points. Points they cannot argue against. Homosexuality is an abnormality. Lets explore that When something consists of a tiny percentage of a group, it is seen as an abnormality. Now, humans are in fact animals The primary drive of animals is propergation of the species. Homosexuals cannot carry on the species, therfore they are abnormal to the primary drive of ALL animals. Now if something is abnormal, by definition it is not representative of the species and must therfore be mentally deficient or mentally ill. Finally The fact that these individual have to associate with ever more abstract groups Lesbians, Gays, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex, Questioning, Sologomy and Pedophiles LGBTIQSP The more twisted and devided they become, the more letters are added Is this the action of a sane mind? Now the second argument I have And onevwhic all the homosexual, lesbian, feminist sympathisers refuse to consider or answer. Muzzos HATE pooftahs, they murder them daily Muzzos BELIEVE tgat women are only worth half or less than a man and subjugate women, abuse them and beat them with the CULTs agreement And yet the pooftahs, lesbians and feminists protect and support this CULT. Do they believe that the muzzos will give them any leeway? Are they stooopid enough to think the muzzos will allow them to continue their perverted practices if they get their way? Now Lets hear the arguments againt these truths? Or will I simply be called a homophobe and islamaphobe by Christophobes and Hetrophobes? I know what the answer will be.

Well summed up.

Unfortunately you're surrounded by unemployed and unhinged cyber trolls who log into this site to graffiti everything they read!

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Well summed up. Unfortunately you're surrounded by unemployed and unhinged cyber trolls who log into this site to graffiti everything they read!

:-/

I think that's Valkie's first 'atta boy in all his time on here.

He's too batshit crazy for even the most bigoted usually.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 7:43pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. You two are bone-bloody-lazy, and that's why more than half your posts are just one-liner shithouse graffiti. I generally ignore it, it has shown in the past that it is nothing but a troll and has no counter argument other than insults and abuse. But you are correct in saying that I made some relevant points. Points they cannot argue against. Homosexuality is an abnormality. Lets explore that When something consists of a tiny percentage of a group, it is seen as an abnormality. Now, humans are in fact animals The primary drive of animals is propergation of the species. Homosexuals cannot carry on the species, therfore they are abnormal to the primary drive of ALL animals. Now if something is abnormal, by definition it is not representative of the species and must therfore be mentally deficient or mentally ill. Finally The fact that these individual have to associate with ever more abstract groups Lesbians, Gays, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex, Questioning, Sologomy and Pedophiles LGBTIQSP The more twisted and devided they become, the more letters are added Is this the action of a sane mind? Now the second argument I have And onevwhic all the homosexual, lesbian, feminist sympathisers refuse to consider or answer. Muzzos HATE pooftahs, they murder them daily Muzzos BELIEVE tgat women are only worth half or less than a man and subjugate women, abuse them and beat them with the CULTs agreement And yet the pooftahs, lesbians and feminists protect and support this CULT. Do they believe that the muzzos will give them any leeway? Are they stooopid enough to think the muzzos will allow them to continue their perverted practices if they get their way? Now Lets hear the arguments againt these truths? Or will I simply be called a homophobe and islamaphobe by Christophobes and Hetrophobes? I know what the answer will be. Well summed up. Unfortunately you're surrounded by unemployed and unhinged cyber trolls who log into this site to graffiti everything they read!

Valkie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. You two are bone-bloody-lazy, and that's why more than half your posts are just one-liner shithouse graffiti. I generally ignore it, it has shown in the past that it is nothing but a troll and has no counter argument other than insults and abuse. But you are correct in saying that I made some relevant points. Points they cannot argue against. Homosexuality is an abnormality. Lets explore that When something consists of a tiny percentage of a group, it is seen as an abnormality. Now, humans are in fact animals The primary drive of animals is propergation of the species. Homosexuals cannot carry on the species, therfore they are abnormal to the primary drive of ALL animals. Now if something is abnormal, by definition it is not representative of the species and must therfore be mentally deficient or mentally ill. Finally The fact that these individual have to associate with ever more abstract groups Lesbians, Gays, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex, Questioning, Sologomy and Pedophiles LGBTIQSP The more twisted and devided they become, the more letters are added Is this the action of a sane mind? Now the second argument I have And onevwhic all the homosexual, lesbian, feminist sympathisers refuse to consider or answer. Muzzos HATE pooftahs, they murder them daily Muzzos BELIEVE tgat women are only worth half or less than a man and subjugate women, abuse them and beat them with the CULTs agreement And yet the pooftahs, lesbians and feminists protect and support this CULT. Do they believe that the muzzos will give them any leeway? Are they stooopid enough to think the muzzos will allow them to continue their perverted practices if they get their way? Now Lets hear the arguments againt these truths? Or will I simply be called a homophobe and islamaphobe by Christophobes and Hetrophobes? I know what the answer will be.

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Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Move along folks, move along.  Nothing new here, just Valkie displaying his usual Islamophobia and ad hominem insults.  Tsk, tsk, what is the point of you coming here except to provide you with a means of outletting your anger?   Nothing you say is constructive.  Muslims are here and they aren't going anywhere, despite your attempts at persecuting them.    ::) ::)

I've seen no racial hatred from mainstream Australia at any time since I've been alive..... and that's getting long in the tooth...

What I see is a bunch of self-interested minorities claiming they are hated, and then ensuring by their behaviour that they will indeed receive some response to their often vicious ideas and actions, thus making of their proclaimed victim status a reality - in their own minds.

We've been seeing this kind of rubbish from the feminists since the late 1960's - surely this nation has to ourgrow it some time and just tell these farken minorities to shut up and let everyone else go about their business in peace.

John Smith wrote on Oct 9^th, 2017 at 11:26am:

A good article. A suburban hair salon, an anti-Muslim tirade and what it says about hate speech in Australia Such hair as I have is cut from time to time by Mrs E, who runs a one-chair salon in my neighbourhood. She has been in business there for 40 years. She knows all about the history of the street and many of her clients have been coming to her for half a lifetime. The salon is shut on Mondays, when she cuts the hair of the elderly and disabled in various local institutions. Mrs E is a petite woman with a cloud of brown hair, a bright smile and that empathetic personality that fits so many hairdressers for their parallel occupation of informal counsellor. Under her hairdresser's smock she wears a dress or a blouse and trousers. She came to Australia as a child from the Balkans, grew up, married, had two sons. Australia is home and a place where she says she has always felt welcome, until the other day. A client whose hair she had been cutting for 20 years came in as usual, and then, without any prompting or preamble, launched into a tirade against Muslims. Mrs E heard her out. As a rule, like most sensible businesspeople, she resists being drawn into conversations about sex, religion or politics. But eventually it became too much. "I'm a Muslim," she told the client, "and I very much regret that after 20 years I must tell you I will no longer cut your hair". The salon contains no outward sign of her faith: nothing in her appearance or in the room itself gives it away. For her, it is something private; nothing to do with her professional life. It happened that I came in about a week later. Mrs E and I often talk in general terms about what's going on in the world. She knows I am a journalist and academic and I think she feels safe pushing her conversational boundaries slightly. She told me this story and as she did so, the hurt was written all over her face. And after nearly a lifetime in Australia, she said she felt just that little bit less welcome. Hate speech seeping into Australian society So this is how it goes. Hate speech becomes part of the currency of national debate and is exploited for political purposes. In 1996, Pauline Hanson delivers her notorious maiden speech in which she says Australia is being "swamped by Asians". John Howard, as prime minister, dog-whistles that this is all about free speech. In 2001, the so-called Tampa election occurs. Boat people — overwhelmingly Muslim — become the butt of Howard's assertion of national sovereignty: "We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come." There are votes in this and both sides of politics pile on. In the midst of the 2013 election, Labor's Kevin Rudd — the same man who claims Dietrich Bonhoeffer as an inspiration — slams the door on asylum seekers by striking deals, with Nauru and Papua New Guinea, that Australia is still living with. In 2014, the Federal Government tries to weaken the Racial Discrimination Act in what is said to be in the interests of free speech. Attorney-General George Brandis asserts that "people have a right to be bigots". In 2015, research conducted for the Melbourne Social Equity Institute finds that the single most important driver of negative attitudes toward asylum seekers is religious prejudice, sometimes expressed as concern about the "Islamisation" of Australia. In August 2017, Senator Hanson wears a burqa into Senate Question Time. Senator Brandis discovers where bigotry can lead and assails her for an "appalling stunt" disrespectful of the Muslim faith. Eventually, the political licensing of racism and religious intolerance seeps into the fabric of society. It might take a generation or it might take longer. But when it does it stains and rots that fabric, eating away at people's sense of belonging, undermining the Australian multicultural project, and in a small suburban hair salon, a middle-aged woman feels emboldened to vent her prejudice, doing harm and hurt to someone who has been tending her person for 20 years. Dennis Muller is a senior research fellow at the University of Melbourne's Centre for Advancing Journalism. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-09/anti-muslim-tirade-hairdresser-and-hate-speech-in-australia/9029746 the politics of division is alive and well in this country.

Good article????


All I can see is an article about what happened in a small hair dressing salon that had NOTHING to do with racial hatred at all.  ::)

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 9:21pm:

Valkie wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 7:43pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Quite seriously, you two buffoons should be told that it's fine to pop in a few ad hominems along the way, but also present your objections to some of the points made. You two are bone-bloody-lazy, and that's why more than half your posts are just one-liner shithouse graffiti. I generally ignore it, it has shown in the past that it is nothing but a troll and has no counter argument other than insults and abuse. But you are correct in saying that I made some relevant points. Points they cannot argue against. Homosexuality is an abnormality. Lets explore that When something consists of a tiny percentage of a group, it is seen as an abnormality. Now, humans are in fact animals The primary drive of animals is propergation of the species. Homosexuals cannot carry on the species, therfore they are abnormal to the primary drive of ALL animals. Now if something is abnormal, by definition it is not representative of the species and must therfore be mentally deficient or mentally ill. Finally The fact that these individual have to associate with ever more abstract groups Lesbians, Gays, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex, Questioning, Sologomy and Pedophiles LGBTIQSP The more twisted and devided they become, the more letters are added Is this the action of a sane mind? Now the second argument I have And onevwhic all the homosexual, lesbian, feminist sympathisers refuse to consider or answer. Muzzos HATE pooftahs, they murder them daily Muzzos BELIEVE tgat women are only worth half or less than a man and subjugate women, abuse them and beat them with the CULTs agreement And yet the pooftahs, lesbians and feminists protect and support this CULT. Do they believe that the muzzos will give them any leeway? Are they stooopid enough to think the muzzos will allow them to continue their perverted practices if they get their way? Now Lets hear the arguments againt these truths? Or will I simply be called a homophobe and islamaphobe by Christophobes and Hetrophobes? I know what the answer will be. Well summed up. Unfortunately you're surrounded by unemployed and unhinged cyber trolls who log into this site to graffiti everything they read!

They have no counter argument.

So they insult, denegrate and shout over any comments they see as against them

No matter how logical,

But what can one expect from the mentally ill?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:27pm:

I've seen no racial hatred from mainstream Australia at any time since I've been alive..... and that's getting long in the tooth... What I see is a bunch of self-interested minorities claiming they are hated, and then ensuring by their behaviour that they will indeed receive some response to their often vicious ideas and actions, thus making of their proclaimed victim status a reality - in their own minds. We've been seeing this kind of rubbish from the feminists since the late 1960's - surely this nation has to ourgrow it some time and just tell these farken minorities to shut up and let everyone else go about their business in peace.

The only hate speech I see is
Muzzos demanding murder and beheading of infidels and any who they see as enemies  (which is everyone)

Or the LGBTIQSP mob barging in and insulting, destroying and shouting over normals.

Or the abbos screaming about their land being stolen, all the while sitting on a lifetime of pensions and free run.

Where is the hate speach demanding immigrants being beheaded.......there is none
Where is the hate speach demanding genocide of abbos........there is none
Where is the hate speach demanding pooftahs be shoved off buildings....... there us none

But in the tiny minds of these minority groups, everyone is agains them.

Probably all the drugs they take making them paranoid

If islam is so great, why do the muzzos all run from countries in which it rules?
True persicution, true hate speach comes from the mouths of babes in this CULT

If homosexuality is so normal, so wonderful, why are they always so unhappy and angry?
GAY  is a joke, they are not gay, thay are just always angry.
Even met an old pooftah? Sad and lonely personified.

And then we have the likes of bwyannnnnnnnnn
Desperatly looking for a cause to hang his hat on.
Unfortunately,  his limited cerebral capacity precludes him from putting forward any counter argument.
He simply falls back on thevsame old tired, oft repeated and boring statements.
I feel embarrassed for him, it must be sad living life like that.

Then we have other trolls and apologists who think insults and quips are somehow counter arguments.
They are not.
Like a child sticking their fingers in theirvears screaming "na na na na na" they seek to ignore the facts they cannot argue against and silence the ever growing tide of facts and truth that show their false faith in these  sick minority abnormals.

Yes bwyannnnnnnnnn
The muzzos are here to stay.
Like ticks, they bury their heads into their host and suck the welfare system dry.
This is the case in Every country they infect.

But in time, they will realise the stooopidity of their CULT.
By observing how civilization lives, no matter how hard their twisted imrans fight.
Eventually they will succumb to civilization and disregard the insane CULT.
Then what are you apologists going to do?

Hetrophobes, Christaphobes, these are the true phobias
Because the gays and muzzos realize that they are doomed in the long run.

I have seen a number of racist statements on these forums. They usually come in the form of insulting terminology, but then there have been spurious claims of superiority or inferiority in one form or another. They are all varying forms of ignorance, and I don't mean that in the often used insulting way. I mean lack of knowledge or familiarity.

I cannot see any validity in the claims of superiority, or accertions of inforiority. And further, it is hard to be so uncharitable to other races if you have actually received hospitality when you have been among them. I think of all the kindness I have been shown from black Africans and white Afrikaaners, from Chinese, Polynesians, and Indians, and I clearly remember growing up in an Australia that was far too insular, but it was insular because of isolation; the unfamiliarity with other ways of life and peoples. I welcome a multicultural Australia.

But don't bother reading any further if you suffer from a misguided and self-destructive compassion  that you use to justify open boarders and somekind of obligation to take care of the rest of humanity.

If we have any obligation, it is to create a fairer civilisation here, out of what we have, and that will not be helped by lying to ourselves about the value of beliefs, philosophies, or religions. Likewise, blindly adhering to party platforms will not guarantee trustworthy reform. There is no value in racism, but I will not mince words; Islam is not a Race, it is a mind-set, and we have seen that those of this mind-set are prone to unusual bursts of violence and hatred, and as such, are a danger to us and themselves.

Are there other dangerous elements in society? Of course, but they are not afforded the respectability given freely to Islam under our principles of plurality and tolerance. The fact is that Islam is far more intolerant and insular than the our Commonwealth ever was, and they have no intention to change. Those who hold that only they know the true God will always be prone to fanaticism.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/42/4293dab5e3f9da5c3a22c7f7a11dfe171a55b78f6cbcb3431eab8e12a4c4420a.jpg

Typical LW Prog mentality... whether in the US or anywhere in the world.

http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/irann.jpg

Islam and homosexuals...

http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/13353_862364043824027_3577948761410441743_n.jpg

Homosexuals/LW Progs/socialists and social activists.... all shallow thinkers...  right bwian... :D :D :D :D :D

http://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.234131:1499335148/image/jpeg.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg

In case you are slow...
http://f1.media.brightcove.com/8/4221396001/4221396001_4422178048001_ISIS.jpg

Goose Boy has quite a collection of ISIS photos.

He must be a big fan.

Grendel wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:37am:

In case you are slow... http://f1.media.brightcove.com/8/4221396001/4221396001_4422178048001_ISIS.jpg

Islam is abhorrent!

Grendel wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:35am:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg

Islam is disgusting!

Grendel wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:34am:

http://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.234131:1499335148/image/jpeg.jpg

Islam is vile!

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:14am:

Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:37am: In case you are slow... http://f1.media.brightcove.com/8/4221396001/4221396001_4422178048001_ISIS.jpg Islam is abhorrent!

That's ISIS, dear.

Don't you know the difference?

Calling ISIS 'Islam', is like calling the KKK 'Christianity'.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:15am:

Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:34am: http://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.234131:1499335148/image/jpeg.jpg Islam is vile!

Again: that's ISIS, dear.

Don't you know the difference?

Calling ISIS 'Islam', is like calling the KKK 'Christianity'.

Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK.

Now back to Islam....

Grendel wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:34am:

http://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.234131:1499335148/image/jpeg.jpg

Ohhhh I remember this.


Poor bugger.

Imagine if this victim was your son or brother..... :'( :'( :'(

Grendel wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 8:35am:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg

NO PERSON DESERVES THIS!

Islam has a lot to answer for!

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:29am:

Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS!

Agreed.

ISIS has a lot to answer for.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:24am:

Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam....

Has every Christian, dear?

I'm curious.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:32am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:24am: Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam.... Has every Christian, dear? I'm curious.

Yep....EVERY Christian denomination.

Now back to that vile and sorry excuse of a religion ISLAM.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:29am:

NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for!

The basis/reasoning behind the perpetrating of such a barbaric and cruel act against another person today?

The Koran!

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:32am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:24am: Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam.... Has every Christian, dear? I'm curious. Yep....EVERY Christian denomination.

Has every Christian, dear?

Every individual Christian?

Are you a KKK fan?

I'm curious.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:40am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! The basis/reasoning behind the perpetrating of such a barbaric and cruel act against another person today?

Ignorance.

You of all people should know that.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:29am:

Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for!

Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :)

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :)

As long as we do this scientifically, Doctor, there should be no problem.

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:51am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :) As long as we do this scientifically, Doctor, there should be no problem.

:o :-? ::) >:( :-/ :-X

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:51am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :) As long as we do this scientifically, Doctor, there should be no problem.

And homos aren't a race, so the good Doctor can't be accused of racism.

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 10:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:58am: Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:51am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :) As long as we do this scientifically, Doctor, there should be no problem. And homos aren't a race, so the good Doctor can't be accused of racism.

Exactly. Hommers, Moslems, subhumans. Not a race, leftards, and not racist.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:24am:

Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam....

Westboro Baptist Church have not. And whatever Protestant churches that align themselves with the KKK, even secretly, have not denounced the KKK.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:27pm:

I've seen no racial hatred from mainstream Australia at any time since I've been alive..... and that's getting long in the tooth... What I see is a bunch of self-interested minorities claiming they are hated, and then ensuring by their behaviour that they will indeed receive some response to their often vicious ideas and actions, thus making of their proclaimed victim status a reality - in their own minds. We've been seeing this kind of rubbish from the feminists since the late 1960's - surely this nation has to ourgrow it some time and just tell these farken minorities to shut up and let everyone else go about their business in peace.

Going by what I see here Grap ... that's wishful thinking.

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:24am: Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam.... Westboro Baptist Church have not. And whatever Protestant churches that align themselves with the KKK, even secretly, have not denounced the KKK.

Up! for Lisa.

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 10^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

All I can see is an article about what happened in a small hair dressing salon that had NOTHING to do with racial hatred at all.  ::)

that's cause you're an idiot

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:51am:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :)

KCUF you, you piece of shite.

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:51am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :) bugger you, you piece of shite.

Now now, we must respect the Doctor's courage to stand up, be counted, and throw these people off buildings.

Most brave of him.

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:51am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :) KCUF you, you piece of shite.

You can't say that, Caesar, that's rude.

There are many fanatical and violent groups contending for the worst atrocities, but ISIS is Islam to the letter. Islam has internal divisions like Sunni and Shia, but they are quite irrelevant to we infidels. The weirdest thing about Muzlims is why they are so sadistic.

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:24am: Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam.... Westboro Baptist Church have not. And whatever Protestant churches that align themselves with the KKK, even secretly, have not denounced the KKK.

A congregation with 70 members tops?

There are 1.8 billion Muslims ...

with an estimated fundamentalist/extremist/radical percentage of between 15% & 20%.

So that's between 270 to 360 million people who hate the west & all it stands for.

A percentage calculator doesn't even go low enough to to give a percentage number of 70 WestBro members as against 2.3 billion Christians.

Try another example.

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:51am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :) KCUF you, you piece of shite.

Here's a piece of shyte ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUJmGzV9Ko

Gnads wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

There are 1.8 billion Muslims ... with an estimated fundamentalist/extremist/radical percentage of between 15% & 20%.

Estimated by whom?

Gnads wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 2:04pm:

Auggie wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:46pm: Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:51am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :) KCUF you, you piece of shite. Here's a piece of shyte ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUJmGzV9Ko

There's quite a difference between a person swearing at someone and killing someone.

Also, Dr Mengele is a neo-Nazi.

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 2:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 2:04pm: Auggie wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:46pm: Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:51am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :) KCUF you, you piece of shite. Here's a piece of shyte ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRUJmGzV9Ko There's quite a difference between a person swearing at someone and killing someone. Also, Dr Mengele is a neo-Nazi.

We all are, Caesar, we all are. In our own way.

Gnads wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:20pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:24am: Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam.... Westboro Baptist Church have not. And whatever Protestant churches that align themselves with the KKK, even secretly, have not denounced the KKK. A congregation with 70 members tops? There are 1.8 billion Muslims ... with an estimated fundamentalist/extremist/radical percentage of between 15% & 20%. So that's between 270 to 360 million people who hate the west & all it stands for. A percentage calculator doesn't even go low enough to to give a percentage number of 70 WestBro members as against 2.3 billion Christians. Try another example.

But those 15 - 20% you are talking about aren't jihadis, they're people who won't commit violence directly, but will support terrorist organisation; and also hold beliefs which we wouldn't expect.

Sam Harris made a good example of this on the Bill Maher show.

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

But those 15 - 20% you are talking about aren't jihadis, they're people who won't commit violence directly, but will support terrorist organisation; and also hold beliefs which we wouldn't expect.

Correct.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

Dr Mengele wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:51am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:29am: Grendel wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 8:35am: http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/01/17/24C3B79300000578-2914785-image-m-7_1421521600289.jpg NO PERSON DESERVES THIS! Islam has a lot to answer for! Have to disagree with you there, throwing homos off buildings should be a national sport.  :) KCUF you, you piece of shite.

No need to get mad. I haven't thrown any homos off a roof personally but I did find the videos on liveleak great to fap to. :D

Gnads wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:27pm: I've seen no racial hatred from mainstream Australia at any time since I've been alive..... and that's getting long in the tooth... What I see is a bunch of self-interested minorities claiming they are hated, and then ensuring by their behaviour that they will indeed receive some response to their often vicious ideas and actions, thus making of their proclaimed victim status a reality - in their own minds. We've been seeing this kind of rubbish from the feminists since the late 1960's - surely this nation has to ourgrow it some time and just tell these farken minorities to shut up and let everyone else go about their business in peace. Going by what I see here Grap ... that's wishful thinking.

Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred... but we can give it back when it's handed to us.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred.

you're kidding right?

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:26pm: Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred. you're kidding right?

the last thing I go by is whats said by twats on here...

but on the whole..

what I do kn ow is WORDS are justthat WORDS>..

when I see things like young women being gang raped because they come from a different culture...

yes I use the word HATRED  attached to that crime...

when I read about gays being murdered  because they are gay... yep add HATRED to that as well..

when I see Mosques burnt down... in this country   yep I am getting very concerned...

and when I read of groups being sent to jail because they are planning to bomb building or bridges or army barracks....yep add it there as well..

define HATRED....

Definition of hatred

1 :extreme dislike or disgust :hate
2 :ill will or resentment that is usually mutual :prejudiced hostility or animosity
old racial prejudices and national hatreds



it seriously depends   and I for one do not agree with this WHOLE COUNTRY  being accused of RACIAL HATRED.....in fact it pings me right off.. >:( >:( >:( >:(

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:26pm: Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred. you're kidding right?

Wops and wogs aren't a race.......... gypos, dinks, Snickers sand and banana etc... all are not races... and we as a nation have even accepted the Wogs and Poms, so don't whine....  Dirty Harry hates 'em all - especially Wogs....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnRkCemeV7k

issuevoter wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

There are many fanatical and violent groups contending for the worst atrocities, but ISIS is Islam to the letter. Islam has internal divisions like Sunni and Shia, but they are quite irrelevant to we infidels. The weirdest thing about Muzlims is why they are so sadistic.

Thank you for pointing that out.

Many here conveniently forget that!

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:38pm:

Wops and wogs aren't a race.......... gypos, dinks, Snickers sand and banana etc... all are not races... and we as a nation have even accepted the Wogs and Poms, so don't whine.

ahhh  :D :D :D :D

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

and I for one do not agree with this WHOLE COUNTRY  being accused of RACIAL HATRED

no one accused the whole country of racial hatred Cods.  Did you even read the OP?

Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 9:39am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:32am: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:24am: Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam.... Has every Christian, dear? I'm curious. Yep....EVERY Christian denomination. Now back to that vile and sorry excuse of a religion ISLAM.

Please don't legitimize the islamic CULT.

It is a CULT in every aspect of the word.

And if you look at any legal or psychological assessment of a CULT it fits islam to the "T"

It is nothing more than a brutal, primitive, barbaric, misogynistic, pedophile infested homophobic CULT.

And yet the trolls seek to protect this CULT even though, god forbid, the CULT ever gets its way and takes over Australia, they will be sacrificed to their evil pig sired, self confessed pedophile prophet.

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:55pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:38pm: Wops and wogs aren't a race.......... gypos, dinks, Snickers sand and banana etc... all are not races... and we as a nation have even accepted the Wogs and Poms, so don't whine. ahhh  :D :D :D :D

its true.. you can dish out the language js... dont pretend  and yes it all stings   for a moment  but no life is lost....hate is fear in disguise....we have to use words  because   it stops us using our hands or weapon s...I dont mind being called a POM  when they accuse me of all the wrongs in the world...and killing all the aborigines  I get a bit hot un der the collar.....

is that HATRED.?????   I will have to work on that!

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:59pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:20pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:24am: Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam.... Westboro Baptist Church have not. And whatever Protestant churches that align themselves with the KKK, even secretly, have not denounced the KKK. A congregation with 70 members tops? There are 1.8 billion Muslims ... with an estimated fundamentalist/extremist/radical percentage of between 15% & 20%. So that's between 270 to 360 million people who hate the west & all it stands for. A percentage calculator doesn't even go low enough to to give a percentage number of 70 WestBro members as against 2.3 billion Christians. Try another example. But those 15 - 20% you are talking about aren't jihadis, they're people who won't commit violence directly, but will support terrorist organisation; and also hold beliefs which we wouldn't expect. Sam Harris made a good example of this on the Bill Maher show.

That is total and utter tripe.

Muzzos, even the so called moderate ones, do not hesitate in protesting should anyone dare to step on their precious toes.
The Moderate muzzos call for beheading, murder and destruction of anyone who they feel is against their brutal barbaric CULT.

Its not only the cowardly isis (so named because they cant spell something any more difficult).
Its every single muzzo anywhere in the world.

No one EVER flees to a muzzo country, they all flee from muzzo countries.
That is because once the CULT takes over LIFE IS DEATH, DESTRUCTION AND HELL.

And the apologists want this??????????
Go figure??????

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:56pm:

cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:34pm: and I for one do not agree with this WHOLE COUNTRY  being accused of RACIAL HATRED no one accused the whole country of racial hatred Cods.  Did you even read the OP?

its the general consensus here dont pretend..
I referred to all lefties once.. [meaning those on here] and got clobbered the same with referring to Qlders..

I did read the OP  and no I didnt think that was RACIAL HATRED.. it was WORDS...just a womens opinion she was talking to a women she thought she knew thats all  ...god knows what people talk about to their hairdresser...dont tell be men dont talk about the daily news?????.....

do we have to ask.. oh whats your religion so we all know not to tread on toes.??..


I would imagine a lot of Germans had their toes stepped on after the second world war... ::) ::)

they got over it..  well I hope they have.

My family did.

Letitia Kemister wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:10pm:

My family did.

oh  anew member... welcome... is that in reply to me ?

its a bit brief  so not sure....

but welcome to ozpol all the same..

hope you are tough

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

its the general consensus here dont pretend..

ok, but only if you stop pretending with me.

The article is about the rise of racism and how it's more mainstream than what it once was. And words are racism. Or will you only accept racism that involves physical attacks before you condemn it?
No one said all of Australia is racist. I know many Aussies who aren't racist. The salt of the earth. Also, no one is arguing Australia is the most racist, or worse than any of the other countries. It's not. We do far better than many other countries.


But that doesn't make the racism that is here any better. That doesn't excuse the comments that some people make.
I happen to agree that Racism is getting worse in this country. It's now become embedded in our politics. We have political parties that exist purely because they pander to racists. Divide and conquer. It's worked for centuries, and will continue to work for centuries more

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:27pm: I've seen no racial hatred from mainstream Australia at any time since I've been alive..... and that's getting long in the tooth... What I see is a bunch of self-interested minorities claiming they are hated, and then ensuring by their behaviour that they will indeed receive some response to their often vicious ideas and actions, thus making of their proclaimed victim status a reality - in their own minds. We've been seeing this kind of rubbish from the feminists since the late 1960's - surely this nation has to ourgrow it some time and just tell these farken minorities to shut up and let everyone else go about their business in peace. Going by what I see here Grap ... that's wishful thinking. Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred... but we can give it back when it's handed to us.

Oh good. Just when i thought you couldn't top "Aussie men don't rape Muslim women".

Fabulous.

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:16pm:

cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:06pm: its the general consensus here dont pretend.. ok, but only if you stop pretending with me. The article is about the rise of racism and how it's more mainstream than what it once was. And words are racism. Or will you only accept racism that involves physical attacks before you condemn it? No one said all of Australia is racist. I know many Aussies who aren't racist. The salt of the earth. Also, no one is arguing Australia is the most racist, or worse than any of the other countries. It's not. We do far better than many other countries. But that doesn't make the racism that is here any better. That doesn't excuse the comments that some people make. I happen to agree that Racism is getting worse in this country. It's now become embedded in our politics. We have political parties that exist purely because they pander to racists. Divide and conquer. It's worked for centuries, and will continue to work for centuries more

That be a nutshell with it in it.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:26pm:

- just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred...

http://www.troll.me/images/ahmadinejad-troll/you-very-funny-guy.jpg

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

Gnads wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:59pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:20pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 9:24am: Every Christian denomination has officially denounced the KKK. Now back to Islam.... Westboro Baptist Church have not. And whatever Protestant churches that align themselves with the KKK, even secretly, have not denounced the KKK. A congregation with 70 members tops? There are 1.8 billion Muslims ... with an estimated fundamentalist/extremist/radical percentage of between 15% & 20%. So that's between 270 to 360 million people who hate the west & all it stands for. A percentage calculator doesn't even go low enough to to give a percentage number of 70 WestBro members as against 2.3 billion Christians. Try another example. But those 15 - 20% you are talking about aren't jihadis, they're people who won't commit violence directly, but will support terrorist organisation; and also hold beliefs which we wouldn't expect. Sam Harris made a good example of this on the Bill Maher show.

So that makes them a safe option does it?

Bill Maher or Jimmy Kimmel .... perrrrlease  ::)

John Smith wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:27pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:26pm: Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred. you're kidding right?

Why would he be?

Gnads wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:27pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:26pm: Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred. you're kidding right? Why would he be?

https://m.popkey.co/411be0/jZqvO_s-200x150.gif

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:27pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:26pm: Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred. you're kidding right? the last thing I go by is whats said by twats on here... but on the whole.. what I do kn ow is WORDS are justthat WORDS>.. when I see things like young women being gang raped because they come from a different culture... yes I use the word HATRED  attached to that crime... when I read about gays being murdered  because they are gay... yep add HATRED to that as well.. when I see Mosques burnt down... in this country   yep I am getting very concerned... and when I read of groups being sent to jail because they are planning to bomb building or bridges or army barracks....yep add it there as well.. define HATRED.... Definition of hatred 1 :extreme dislike or disgust :hate 2 :ill will or resentment that is usually mutual :prejudiced hostility or animosity old racial prejudices and national hatreds it seriously depends   and I for one do not agree with this WHOLE COUNTRY  being accused of RACIAL HATRED.....in fact it pings me right off.. >:( >:( >:( >:(

And who are the "Twats" here?

Not a term expected of an old biddy I'm sure.  ;D

cods wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:06pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:56pm: cods wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:34pm: and I for one do not agree with this WHOLE COUNTRY  being accused of RACIAL HATRED no one accused the whole country of racial hatred Cods.  Did you even read the OP? its the general consensus here dont pretend.. I referred to all lefties once.. [meaning those on here] and got clobbered the same with referring to Qlders.. I did read the OP  and no I didnt think that was RACIAL HATRED.. it was WORDS...just a womens opinion she was talking to a women she thought she knew thats all  ...god knows what people talk about to their hairdresser...dont tell be men dont talk about the daily news?????..... do we have to ask.. oh whats your religion so we all know not to tread on toes.??.. I would imagine a lot of Germans had their toes stepped on after the second world war... ::) ::) they got over it..  well I hope they have.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:42pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:26pm: - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred... http://www.troll.me/images/ahmadinejad-troll/you-very-funny-guy.jpg

Yes he's a very funny guy ol Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

But he wasn't an Ayatollah.

He's been given the flick for an Aytollah/Islamic Cleric Hassan Rouhani

that should go well .....

Oh yeah & he was University educated in Scotland.

No wonder he hates the West.

Gnads wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:52pm:

John Smith wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:27pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:26pm: Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred. you're kidding right? Why would he be?

cause he's not normally that dumb.

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 6:18pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:26pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:27pm: I've seen no racial hatred from mainstream Australia at any time since I've been alive..... and that's getting long in the tooth... What I see is a bunch of self-interested minorities claiming they are hated, and then ensuring by their behaviour that they will indeed receive some response to their often vicious ideas and actions, thus making of their proclaimed victim status a reality - in their own minds. We've been seeing this kind of rubbish from the feminists since the late 1960's - surely this nation has to ourgrow it some time and just tell these farken minorities to shut up and let everyone else go about their business in peace. Going by what I see here Grap ... that's wishful thinking. Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred... but we can give it back when it's handed to us. Oh good. Just when i thought you couldn't top "Aussie men don't rape Muslim women". Fabulous.

You have yet to show me where Aussie men (not immigrant Muslims) go about raping Muslim women.

No such thing exists.

There is something definitely wrong with some of you here.  You can have gang rapes of non-Muslim women by Muslim gangs, and abuse and threats to non-Muslims on a daily basis, and demands that all be converted to Islam etc - and yet you will not accept the undeniable fact that non-Muslim Australian men do not, as a rule or as part of a hate campaign, rape Muslim women.

Quite frankly - some of you are insane.

SHOW me then figures of Muslim women raped by Australians - by which I mean non-Muslim immigrants, but what are NORMAL Australians.

You, Mothra - show me the figures of Muslim women raped by Aboriginal men, who are Australian to the core..... THERE ARE NONE!  Same applies to your average Ocker... now try to grow up for once in your  life.   ::)

Now SHOW me where Australians of this nation, as a group, have not accepted any and all kinds of immigrants and given them a fair go far from the guns that were killing them, and show me where their life is not measurably better here than it was in the sh1t-hoels they came from.

And then tell me about all those Australians who go around attacking and insulting and abusing and threatening Muslims etc, who are supposedly deprived of rights etc, and yet have the same rights as everyone else here, even to sit in our Parliaments without even having been born here.

I'll say it again - some of you people are insane, and it is you who are the problem with all your endless paranoia and whining about your 'rights' and the 'rights' of minorities, not the ordinary Australian.

That includes you, Smith.  You and your family have prospered well here - better than being an Italian olive farm labourer - and yet you sh1t on this nation at times while enjoying your nice car, home and decent life.

Speechless. Just speechless.

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:16pm:

Speechless. Just speechless.

Now THAT is the smartest thing you've said on this forum.  About time!

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:19pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:16pm: Speechless. Just speechless. Now THAT is the smartest thing you've said on this forum.  About time!

Ah yes. Sooooo clever. I would pitch it as being demonstrative of your general intellectual age.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:11pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 6:18pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 5:26pm: Gnads wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 1:35pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 10th, 2017 at 10:27pm: I've seen no racial hatred from mainstream Australia at any time since I've been alive..... and that's getting long in the tooth... What I see is a bunch of self-interested minorities claiming they are hated, and then ensuring by their behaviour that they will indeed receive some response to their often vicious ideas and actions, thus making of their proclaimed victim status a reality - in their own minds. We've been seeing this kind of rubbish from the feminists since the late 1960's - surely this nation has to ourgrow it some time and just tell these farken minorities to shut up and let everyone else go about their business in peace. Going by what I see here Grap ... that's wishful thinking. Yeah - just trying to make the point that as a general rule we Aussies don't do racial hatred... but we can give it back when it's handed to us. Oh good. Just when i thought you couldn't top "Aussie men don't rape Muslim women". Fabulous. You have yet to show me where Aussie men (not immigrant Muslims) go about raping Muslim women. No such thing exists. There is something definitely wrong with some of you here.  You can have gang rapes of non-Muslim women by Muslim gangs, and abuse and threats to non-Muslims on a daily basis, and demands that all be converted to Islam etc - and yet you will not accept the undeniable fact that non-Muslim Australian men do not, as a rule or as part of a hate campaign, rape Muslim women. Quite frankly - some of you are insane. SHOW me then figures of Muslim women raped by Australians - by which I mean non-Muslim immigrants, but what are NORMAL Australians. You, Mothra - show me the figures of Muslim women raped by Aboriginal men, who are Australian to the core..... THERE ARE NONE!  Same applies to your average Ocker... now try to grow up for once in your  life.   ::) Now SHOW me where Australians of this nation, as a group, have not accepted any and all kinds of immigrants and given them a fair go far from the guns that were killing them, and show me where their life is not measurably better here than it was in the sh1t-hoels they came from. And then tell me about all those Australians who go around attacking and insulting and abusing and threatening Muslims etc, who are supposedly deprived of rights etc, and yet have the same rights as everyone else here, even to sit in our Parliaments without even having been born here. I'll say it again - some of you people are insane, and it is you who are the problem with all your endless paranoia and whining about your 'rights' and the 'rights' of minorities, not the ordinary Australian. That includes you, Smith.  You and your family have prospered well here - better than being an Italian olive farm labourer - and yet you sh1t on this nation at times while enjoying your nice car, home and decent life.

If only you were that passionate about gay marriage, Grap...

Every little bit of Grap's advocacy is for white men, Caesar.

That's it. There is nobody else except the enemy or the servant.

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:24pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:19pm: mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:16pm: Speechless. Just speechless. Now THAT is the smartest thing you've said on this forum.  About time! Ah yes. Sooooo clever. I would pitch it as being demonstrative of your general intellectual age.

Accept reality - it doesn't hurt really.  My intellectual age far out-distances yours since I have provided factual support - all you are doing is inferring something negative about me, rather than disputing the facts provided.

Now - kid - the aged pension is not welfare, and nor is any other form of social security, and the only racial hatred in this nation is coming from very specific minority groups who are self-locked into ghettoes and into centuries outdated ideologies that have no place in a modern nation... and there is not one iota of proof to show that any segment of this society is actively persecuting such groups.  Some individuals may have a harsh word or two against them - but there is NO organised oppression of hatred against them.

Stop insulting Australians, who have proven themselves over and over to be the most kind and accepting lot in the world.  We take in all kinds, even wops and poms.... and everyone gets a fair go based on their input to this society.  Sitting back and whining and demanding and claiming oppression will gain you nothing - nobody has the time, energy or money to bother (apart from the government when it's courting votes....  ::) )

Proven, fact, and finished.

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:29pm:

Every little bit of Grap's advocacy is for white men, Caesar. That's it. There is nobody else except the enemy or the servant.

Can you provide evidence of institutionalised or otherwise form of racism in Australia?

Factual support? (btw, that's as far as i got into your rant.)

What was this factual support that shows that no "Aussie" male has ever raped a Muslim woman.

That was what you are continuing to argue, after-all.

Factual evidence please.

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:25pm:

If only you were that passionate about gay marriage, Grap...

Why should I be?  Gay marriage doesn't exist and is currently under consideration as an amendment to the concept of marriage.....

I've said before that if the ex's nephew and his man wanted to get married, I'd be happy to attend and such and happy for them, but gay marriage simply is not real marriage.  Sorry 'bout that.  I don't mind people making a commitment to each other, but I draw the line at abuse and emotional blackmail as the means to get it.

I don't negotiate with terrorists, but I will listen to reason.

I'm still waiting for that list of traditional Australian men including Aboriginals who go around raping Muslim women, bashing Musos and Blacks, and all that..... as a matter of oppressing those groups.

It doesn't happen, and all this emotional nonsense thrown around without offering a valid response is just squid's ink.

Children, children.... get with the program.

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:33pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:29pm: Every little bit of Grap's advocacy is for white men, Caesar. That's it. There is nobody else except the enemy or the servant. Can you provide evidence of institutionalised or otherwise form of racism in Australia?

I would say there is tremendous amounts of institutionalised racism in the police force, the legal system, real estate, and other such sectors.

I think we have racism in our politics.

People of colour report that they have been, throughout their lives, overwhelming the recipients of racial prejudice.

I like to listen to people when they tell me how things are for them. Considering they live it and all.

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:37pm:

Auggie wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:33pm: mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:29pm: Every little bit of Grap's advocacy is for white men, Caesar. That's it. There is nobody else except the enemy or the servant. Can you provide evidence of institutionalised or otherwise form of racism in Australia? I would say there is tremendous amounts of institutionalised racism in the police force, the legal system, real estate, and other such sectors. I think we have racism in our politics. People of colour report that they have been, throughout their lives, overwhelming the recipients of racial prejudice. I like to listen to people when they tell me how things are for them. Considering they live it and all.

Of course they do - but what are the facts?

"People report that they have been, throughout their lives, overwhelmingLY (fixed)** the recipients of racial prejudice."

That's more the reality.  I've never called a Black C*nt a Black C*nt - but I've been called a White C*nt by Black C*nts... for no reason other than that I am not tanned etc....  (though I tan very well and have olive skin - gotta be some wop in there somewhere - goin' git me a DNA test).  I've never called a Muslim a "Cun", as one did to me at a place of work after asking if he could screw my sister.... and I politely said no.

Everyone can claim prejudice or racism or whatever - but the realities need to be clear.

Racism is as racism does, as they say down in Green Bow - and what I've seen doesn't come from MY side of the tracks.... or if it does, it is only in response to prejudice and racism from the 'other' side, who, as I've pointed out before, go about alienating and angering people with their antics, and then claim victimhood.  They learned that from the 'feminists'.


** rising tide of illiteracy in alleged educated people

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:36pm:

but gay marriage simply is not real marriage.

Why is it not real marriage? Because it doesn't lead to the birth of children?

If you're going to play the 'traditional marriage' card, then let's look at what traditional marriage actually is. First, you only get one shot at it (unless your wife/husband dies); second, you can only have sex to get knocked up; and third, you have to have children.

That was what marriage has been defined as and was practised that way for centuries. If we're willing to allow adulterers to marry, to let second, third, or the tenth marriage be valid - picking and choosing what marriage is, then why can't we pick and choose that two same-sex couples can't get married?

What we have is modern marriage, not traditional marriage. Modern marriage is a legal institution recognising a union between two consenting adults. The principal of 'equality under the law' necessitates that same-sex marriage should be legal.

In fact, marriage is the one example where religion and the state have intersected. I agree that marriage is rooted in religion, but as I said above, there's a very strict criteria.

Second, by not letting same-sex couples marry, and having same-sex civil unions, we're essentially having a situation of 'separate but equal' (which was in place for over 60 years in America, known as the Jim Crow laws). We wouldn't (nor should we) except a separate but equal doctrine for racial segregation (even if the facilities were exactly equal in quality), no less than we should accept a separate but equal doctrine for the commitment between two consenting adults.

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:34pm:

Factual support? (btw, that's as far as i got into your rant.) What was this factual support that shows that no "Aussie" male has ever raped a Muslim woman. That was what you are continuing to argue, after-all. Factual evidence please.

I thought you were speechless, yet here you are with your usual prejudices.

You provide some support for the contrary view that you espouse... there is none.  I would find it hard to imagine that, given the restrictions that Muslim women operate under, any of them was ever raped HERE by an Aussie.

In contrast, at least one Muslim gang went around targeting Australian non-Muslim women to 'teach them a lesson'..... and there are Muslim gangs terrorising and targeting  suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne.... but there are no non-Muslim gangs terrorising Muslim occupied areas of Sydney and Melbourne... and yet the screech is that 'Muslims are oppressed and under siege' - what a convenient and self-serving way to get things to go your way..... straight out of the feminist playbook.

None so blind as they who will not see.... except those who refuse to even look.   ::)  ::)  ::)

I cannot help you out of your own self-created trap.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:53pm:

mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:34pm: Factual support? (btw, that's as far as i got into your rant.) What was this factual support that shows that no "Aussie" male has ever raped a Muslim woman. That was what you are continuing to argue, after-all. Factual evidence please. I thought you were speechless, yet here you are with your usual prejudices. You provide some support for the contrary view that you espouse... there is none.  I would find it hard to imagine that, given the restrictions that Muslim women operate under, any of them was ever raped HERE by an Aussie. In contrast, at least one Muslim gang went around targeting Australian non-Muslim women to 'teach them a lesson'..... and there are Muslim gangs terrorising and targeting  suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne.... but there are no non-Muslim gangs terrorising Muslim occupied areas of Sydney and Melbourne... and yet the screech is that 'Muslims are oppressed and under siege' - what a convenient and self-serving way to get things to go your way..... straight out of the feminist playbook. None so blind as they who will not see.... except those who refuse to even look.   ::)  ::)  ::) I cannot help you out of your own self-created trap.

You expectg me to trawl through every case of sexual assault to discern the religion of those involved to prove to you that "No Aussie has ever raped a Muslim"?

Like, do you actually hear yourself?

How many people do you need to tell you how ridiculous that is before you see it?

But you claimed factual evidence. Cough up.

Auggie wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:49pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:36pm: but gay marriage simply is not real marriage. Why is it not real marriage? Because it doesn't lead to the birth of children? If you're going to play the 'traditional marriage' card, then let's look at what traditional marriage actually is. First, you only get one shot at it (unless your wife/husband dies); second, you can only have sex to get knocked up; and third, you have to have children. That was what marriage has been defined as and was practised that way for centuries. If we're willing to allow adulterers to marry, to let second, third, or the tenth marriage be valid - picking and choosing what marriage is, then why can't we pick and choose that two same-sex couples can't get married? What we have is modern marriage, not traditional marriage. Modern marriage is a legal institution recognising a union between two consenting adults. The principal of 'equality under the law' necessitates that same-sex marriage should be legal. In fact, marriage is the one example where religion and the state have intersected. I agree that marriage is rooted in religion, but as I said above, there's a very strict criteria. Second, by not letting same-sex couples marry, and having same-sex civil unions, we're essentially having a situation of 'separate but equal' (which was in place for over 60 years in America, known as the Jim Crow laws). We wouldn't (nor should we) except a separate but equal doctrine for racial segregation (even if the facilities were exactly equal in quality), no less than we should accept a separate but equal doctrine for the commitment between two consenting adults.

Marriage is defined as between a man and a woman... now if you wish to have something else, you need to call it something other than 'marriage'...... 'bonding', 'committed' (the mind boggles at committal).. but let's cut to the chase.. marriage is between a man and a woman and gays are not man and woman.

"Dearly beloved, we are gathered here in the sight of God and this assembled company, to join in Gayriage this man and this man.... Bruce, do you take Cyril as your lawfully bonded partner?"

Grappler doesn't adapt, Caesar. He just garners more and more enemies.

mothra wrote on Oct 11^th, 2017 at 11:56pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:53pm: mothra wrote on Oct 11th, 2017 at 11:34pm: Factual support? (btw, that's as far as i got into your rant.) What was this factual support that shows that no "Aussie" male has ever raped a Muslim woman. That was what you are continuing to argue, after-all. Factual evidence please. I thought you were speechless, yet here you are with your usual prejudices. You provide some support for the contrary view that you espouse... there is none.  I would find it hard to imagine that, given the restrictions that Muslim women operate under, any of them was ever raped HERE by an Aussie. In contrast, at least one Muslim gang went around targeting Australian non-Muslim women to 'teach them a lesson'..... and there are Muslim gangs terrorising and targeting  suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne.... but there are no non-Muslim gangs terrorising Muslim occupied areas of Sydney and Melbourne... and yet the screech is that 'Muslims are oppressed and under siege' - what a convenient and self-serving way to get things to go your way..... straight out of the feminist playbook. None so blind as they who will not see.... except those who refuse to even look.   ::)  ::)  ::) I cannot help you out of your own self-created trap. You expectg me to trawl through every case of sexual assault to discern the religion of those involved to prove to you that "No Aussie has ever raped a Muslim"? Like, do you actually hear yourself? How many people do you need to tell you how ridiculous that is before you see it? But you claimed factual evidence. Cough up.

Then dispute not that which you do not support when you are not prepared to provide support for an alternative view.

When did I claim 'factual evidence'?  There is NO program of rape of Muslim women and no program of oppression of Muslims here...

HERE!  You find the contrary... google rape of muslim women in australia and all you get is rape of Australian women by Muslims....

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=rape+of+muslim+women+in+australia&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=xSPeWf28MM_N8geK0oigDA

That tells it all... now, I'm reading a Jack Reacher novel and have to be up early.  Accept reality and move on.