Man who called for all British Muslims to be killed after Manchester attack on Facebook jailed for a year

CPS warns people that they 'cannot hide on social media when stirring up hatred and violence'


A man who posted a Facebook message calling for all British Muslims to be killed in the wake of the Manchester attack has been jailed for a year.

Keegan Jakovlevs, of Wrexham in North Wales, previously pleaded guilty to publishing material with the intention of stirring up religious hatred.

The 22-year-old was sentenced at Mold Crown Court for the crime, which is made illegal by the Public Order Act 1986. 

Prosecutors said Jakovlevs posted his message shortly after the bombing at Manchester Arena on 22 May and that it was taken down shortly afterwards.

Isis supporter Salman Abedi killed 22 victims, including children, and injured 250 more when he detonated a homemade bomb as fans poured out of an Ariana Grande concert.

“Jakovlevs’s Facebook message expressed sympathy for the families of those caught up in the bombing but then, using racist and offensive language, he called for every Muslim in the country to be killed,” a spokesperson for the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said.

“The prosecution argued that Jakovlevs’s single message was particularly serious because it was posted so soon after the Manchester bombing when public emotions were running high.”

The CPS said the message was accessible to his 2,154 Facebook friends “at the very least” and to other members of the public.

“Overall, there was potential for it to have been seen by a very large number of people and for serious harm to have occurred in addition to the obvious fear and distress suffered by any member of the Muslim community who may have seen it,” prosecutors added.

Sue Hemming, head of the special crime and counter-terrorism division in the CPS, said no harmful action was traced to the post but Jakovlevs’s “intention was clear”.

She added: “After the Manchester attack there were countless messages of support on social media for those affected but Keegan Jakovlevs chose to stir up religious hatred by calling for British Muslims to be indiscriminately killed.

“People should not assume they can hide on social media when stirring up hatred and violence. Where there is evidence the CPS will prosecute them and they will face imprisonment as a result.”

Numerous defendants have been prosecuted for social media posts in recent months, for offences including inciting hatred and violence, and spreading Isis propaganda.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/man-british-muslims-killed-manchester-attack-facebook-post-keegan-jakovlevs-jailed-wrexham-wales-a7933896.html?cmpid=facebook-post

More than a couple of people on this forum would do well to consider this carefully.

DNA caught criminals years later.

Near future cyber tools will get all these slobs on ozpolitics, hiding behind a computer screen, who have broken laws.

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 3:49pm:

Man who called for all British Muslims to be killed after Manchester attack on Facebook jailed for a year CPS warns people that they 'cannot hide on social media when stirring up hatred and violence'

Wonder if muslims can be jailed calling for the murder of non muslims in this country.

I doubt these violent sociopaths got so much as a sideways glance from our resident apologists

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Oh look! BigOl has pulled out one of his 3 only arguments (two of which are pictures).

It's interesting to note he's pulled out one of his other 3 arguments in a thread in the Islam section only moments ago .. so expect to see trauma-porn of a woman being horrendously executed any moment.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 4:25pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:49pm: Man who called for all British Muslims to be killed after Manchester attack on Facebook jailed for a year CPS warns people that they 'cannot hide on social media when stirring up hatred and violence' Wonder if muslims can be jailed calling for the murder of non muslims in this country. I doubt these violent sociopaths got so much as a sideways glance from our resident apologists

Searching your picture and it comes up from a German protest?

https://conservativedailypost.com/history-repeat-modern-crusades-building-invaders-deny-requests-assimilate/

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Oh look! BigOl has pulled out one of his 3 only arguments (two of which are pictures). It's interesting t note he's pulled out one of his other 3 arguments in a thread in the Islam section only moments ago .. so expect to see trauma-porn of a woman being horrendously executed any moment.

All muslim all the time.

This is who they really are, not the bullsh1t lies that you try and spin as the 'truth'.


You are a liar, nothing more

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 4:31pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 4:28pm: Oh look! BigOl has pulled out one of his 3 only arguments (two of which are pictures). It's interesting t note he's pulled out one of his other 3 arguments in a thread in the Islam section only moments ago .. so expect to see trauma-porn of a woman being horrendously executed any moment. All muslim all the time. This is who they really are, not the bullsh1t lies that you try and spin as the 'truth'. You are a liar, nothing more

Four arguments. I forgot he likes to call people liars.

In a civilised society, inciting violence should dealt with by the police and the judiciary. However, in the Western World, we tolerate such dangerous rants when they comes from Muzlims, and we do this by saying, "Oh they aren't all like that. That's just few criminal types." And the police and the judiciary sit around until another Manchester type of event prompts someone to say something should be done in retaliation. This has been going on for 20 years, and while I don't think killing all Muzlims is the answer, I can see where this guy is coming from. We do need to retaliate, violence is the only thing Muzlims respect.

____ wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 4:25pm: mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:49pm: Man who called for all British Muslims to be killed after Manchester attack on Facebook jailed for a year CPS warns people that they 'cannot hide on social media when stirring up hatred and violence' Wonder if muslims can be jailed calling for the murder of non muslims in this country. I doubt these violent sociopaths got so much as a sideways glance from our resident apologists Searching your picture and it comes up from a German protest? https://conservativedailypost.com/history-repeat-modern-crusades-building-invaders-deny-requests-assimilate/

We're discussing the jailing of a British person... why not bring the Germans into it.. Pan-Europeanism...  EUquality for all...

Ici Une Musselman Francaise.... egalite` a touts!!

http://images.financialexpress.com/2015/01/Charlie-hebdo-protest-Re.jpg

Has anybody from the Didsbury Mosque where the bomber (who slaughtered 23 people) was radicalized been arrested?

Oh well, at least they locked up a Facebook poster...yay.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 5:56pm:

____ wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 4:30pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 4:25pm: mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:49pm: Man who called for all British Muslims to be killed after Manchester attack on Facebook jailed for a year CPS warns people that they 'cannot hide on social media when stirring up hatred and violence' Wonder if muslims can be jailed calling for the murder of non muslims in this country. I doubt these violent sociopaths got so much as a sideways glance from our resident apologists Searching your picture and it comes up from a German protest? https://conservativedailypost.com/history-repeat-modern-crusades-building-invaders-deny-requests-assimilate/ We're discussing the jailing of a British person... why not bring the Germans into it.. Pan-Europeanism...  EUquality for all... Ici Une Musselman Francaise.... egalite` a touts!! http://images.financialexpress.com/2015/01/Charlie-hebdo-protest-Re.jpg

And he was talking about Australia, while using a german photo. Now highlighted.

Try and keep up.

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 3:55pm:

More than a couple of people on this forum would do well to consider this carefully.

I am not aware of anything similar being called for here.

Criticising Islam and its adherents, even calling for the end of Muslim immigration or the deportation of all convicted terrorists and their circle is nothing remotely like calling for the murder of all Muslims in a particular country.

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Oh look! BigOl has pulled out one of his 3 only arguments (two of which are pictures). It's interesting to note he's pulled out one of his other 3 arguments in a thread in the Islam section only moments ago .. so expect to see trauma-porn of a woman being horrendously executed any moment.

Trauma porn?  You are a completely deformed, Mothra, by bending over backwards too much in order to ignore and misrepresent as 'trauma porn'  what Islam does to women too much.

You are truly an uncritical non-thinker and useless idiot.

____ wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 4:30pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 4:25pm: mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:49pm: Man who called for all British Muslims to be killed after Manchester attack on Facebook jailed for a year CPS warns people that they 'cannot hide on social media when stirring up hatred and violence' Wonder if muslims can be jailed calling for the murder of non muslims in this country. I doubt these violent sociopaths got so much as a sideways glance from our resident apologists Searching your picture and it comes up from a German protest? https://conservativedailypost.com/history-repeat-modern-crusades-building-invaders-deny-requests-assimilate/

Maybe you want to talk to news.com about their reporting, then


http://www.news.com.au/national/nsw-act/isis-flag-has-been-brandished-by-extremists-in-australia-for-at-least-two-years/news-story/ff4e6aa5c15ace2da63f3fb154e1f5c4

Frank wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 6:16pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:55pm: More than a couple of people on this forum would do well to consider this carefully. I am not aware of anything similar being called for here. Criticising Islam and its adherents, even calling for the end of Muslim immigration or the deportation of all convicted terrorists and their circle is nothing remotely like calling for the murder of all Muslims in a particular country.

Yeah, she does like a good fib to prop up her feeble support for Australia's violent jihadists.

Yet this was acceptable in the UK - go figure?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/sites/default/files/uploads/2015/01/behead-those-who-insult-islam.jpg

It seems that as long as you belong to THE EVIL DEVILS CULT you can threaten everybody and get away with it.

But to speak out against this EVIL DEVILS CULT is to bring down fire and brimstone and the wrath of the sycophants in grubberment who are too afraid to voice their honest opinions of this EVIL DEVIL CULT.

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them.

FD what do you think about this decision?

Do you think its fair enough that someone who calls for the death of all British muslims to have his freedom curtailed?

I think so. 12 months seems a bit harsh though, seeing as he had a limited audience and took it down soon after. Not sure what it really means with probation. It was also pretty vague.

Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken?

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:29pm:

FD what do you think about this decision? Do you think its fair enough that someone who calls for the death of all British muslims to have his freedom curtailed?

I agree in principle.  But what about you head chop placard holding brethren?  Are they free?

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:25pm:

Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them.

Victim blaming. Typical.

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:25pm: Kill the Mushriken wherever you find them. Victim blaming. Typical.

Ah yes. They were a mindless collective of treacherous warrior Jews, weren't they Mothra?

mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 3:55pm:

More than a couple of people on this forum would do well to consider this carefully.

so should FD. As the owner of the forum he needs to be careful what he allows. Pretending just isn't going to cut it for him in the real world

John Smith wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:36pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:55pm: More than a couple of people on this forum would do well to consider this carefully. so should FD. As the owner of the forum he needs to be careful what he allows. Pretending just isn't going to cut it for him in the real world

Indeed. As he should be very careful about the white supremacy he allows on here.

It's just not the done thing these days.

Frank wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 6:16pm:

I am not aware of anything similar being called for here.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

can't believe he said that :D :D

If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so.

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so.

Not if they're Muslims, FD. You forgot that caveat.

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:31pm:

Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken?

Absolutely. Threatening to kill anyone should never be tolerated.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:31pm: Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken? Absolutely. Threatening to kill anyone should never be tolerated.

Nice of you to say that Gandalf -
practically speaking - do you think
any of these people got 1 year's jail?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/sites/default/files/uploads/2015/01/behead-those-who-insult-islam.jpg

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:31pm: Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken? Absolutely. Threatening to kill anyone should never be tolerated.

But ALL muzzos threaten EVERYBODY AND ANYBODY NOT ISLAM.

Surely this should be punished.

All those children calling for beheading should be put in gaol immediaty.
They could join their deadbeat fathers who are all in there for drug runniing, murder, thefth and all manner of other crimes.

Bobby. wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:51pm:

any of these people got 1 year's jail?

you don't know if they did or didn't so stop pretending bobby

A Current Affair showed the Goulburn high security prison where they segregate the prisoners by ethnicity, each having their own prison yard and section within the prison.

1. Aborigines.
2. Pacific Islanders.
3. Lebanese.
4. Anglo-Australians.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:31pm: Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken? Absolutely. Threatening to kill anyone should never be tolerated.

What if they are reading from the Koran at the time?

One of the people who held up a beheading sign in Australia handed herself into the police afterwards. They basically told her to go away.

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:47pm: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:31pm: Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken? Absolutely. Threatening to kill anyone should never be tolerated. What if they are reading from the Koran at the time? One of the people who held up a beheading sign in Australia handed herself into the police afterwards. They basically told her to go away.

;D

Yeah.

Answer the question!

John Smith wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:38pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:16pm: I am not aware of anything similar being called for here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D can't believe he said that :D :D

Well, you are stupid, Gino. That's why we keep you - the idiotic, South of Eboli, barbarian angle on thing. You know, Christ  stopped at Eboli and you peasants are unredeemed.

Otherwise you would have posted something to support your idiocy. 

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:29pm:

FD what do you think about this decision? Do you think its fair enough that someone who calls for the death of all British muslims to have his freedom curtailed?

We don't jail mussies for calling for the murder of non-muslims here in Australia, lest we be accused of being islamophobia.


So if mussies can call for murder why shouldn't non-mussies have the same privilege?

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 9:26pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:24pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:47pm: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:31pm: Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken? Absolutely. Threatening to kill anyone should never be tolerated. What if they are reading from the Koran at the time? One of the people who held up a beheading sign in Australia handed herself into the police afterwards. They basically told her to go away. ;D Yeah. Answer the question!

If campaigning for the death penalty was a crime, you'd be in Goulburn's Pom section, Herbie.

It's probably like the Great Escape - cups of tea, Red Cross food parcels, and sodomy.

The skinheads must love it in there.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 5:06am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:29pm: FD what do you think about this decision? Do you think its fair enough that someone who calls for the death of all British muslims to have his freedom curtailed? We don't jail mussies for calling for the murder of non-muslims here in Australia, lest we be accused of being islamophobia. So if mussies can call for murder why shouldn't non-mussies have the same privilege?

And speaking of sodomy...

Frank wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 9:41pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:38pm: Frank wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:16pm: I am not aware of anything similar being called for here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D can't believe he said that :D :D Well, you are stupid, Gino. That's why we keep you - the idiotic, South of Eboli, barbarian angle on thing. You know, Christ  stopped at Eboli and you peasants are unredeemed. Otherwise you would have posted something to support your idiocy.

Oh look, it's the idiot post.

Don't you look, Hole. The old boy's mine.

I won her in a bet with the Islanders.

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 5:56am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 5:06am: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:29pm: FD what do you think about this decision? Do you think its fair enough that someone who calls for the death of all British muslims to have his freedom curtailed? We don't jail mussies for calling for the murder of non-muslims here in Australia, lest we be accused of being islamophobia. So if mussies can call for murder why shouldn't non-mussies have the same privilege? And speaking of sodomy...

The 'go to' comment for our resident homosexual rapist, army boy impostor.

Thanks for the effort you put in here.

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

One of the people who held up a beheading sign in Australia handed herself into the police afterwards. They basically told her to go away.

For the sake of veracity I feel obliged to clean this up a little.

This woman in a hijab at no time held up the sign herself, but while walking with a pram and her young boy they came across a discarded sign in the park where all this raging was still going on, and got her son to hold up the sign for her to take photos of it.

She was no doubt the wife of one of the protesters, and one would assume she was fully supportive of the 'beheading' messages, but the fact remains that neither she nor her kid held the sign up as part of the protest. 

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 5:55am:

[quote If campaigning for the death penalty was a crime, you'd be in Goulburn's Pom section, Herbie. It's probably like the Great Escape - cups of tea, Red Cross food parcels, and sodomy. The skinheads must love it in there.

We ain't seen nothin' yet. Just wait 'til they have to build a whole new jail just to accommodate our Negro bad boys. And then another and another ...

The consequences of importing racial diversity with its mono-cultural tribalism hasn't yet fully impacted upon Australian society as it is still in the development stage, but fear not, our politicians are hard at work packing yet more Negroes, Middle Easterners, and Pacific Islanders into our Concrete Jungle major cities despite the prison stats screaming "NO MORE! NO MORE!"

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 8:58am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 5:55am: [quote If campaigning for the death penalty was a crime, you'd be in Goulburn's Pom section, Herbie. It's probably like the Great Escape - cups of tea, Red Cross food parcels, and sodomy. The skinheads must love it in there. We ain't seen nothin' yet. Just wait 'til they have to build a whole new jail just to accommodate our Negro bad boys. And then another and another ... The consequences of importing racial diversity with its mono-cultural tribalism hasn't yet fully impacted upon Australian society as it is still in the development stage, but fear not, our politicians are hard at work packing yet more Negroes, Middle Easterners, and Pacific Islanders into our Concrete Jungle major cities despite the prison stats screaming "NO MORE! NO MORE!"

The cities have never been fuller, Herb. But strangely enough, crime's at an all time low.

I'd love to relieve our cities, but I don't know if making up fake crimes to fill up prisons with is the best idea.

We tried that once before.

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so.

And there it is in black and white from the forum owner.

Pecker is going to be most upset.  ;D

Dr Mengele wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 9:28am:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:43pm: If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so. And there it is in black and white from the forum owner. Pecker is going to be most upset.  ;D

Working out okay for you, FD?

Perhaps you've not caught a faint smell on the wind?

I would pay attention to it, if i were you.

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 9:50am:

Dr Mengele wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:28am: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:43pm: If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so. And there it is in black and white from the forum owner. Pecker is going to be most upset.  ;D Working out okay for you, FD? Perhaps you've not caught a faint smell on the wind? I would pay attention to it, if i were you.

what about if black people say they are supreme? Would you get angry?

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 9:52am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:50am: Dr Mengele wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:28am: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:43pm: If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so. And there it is in black and white from the forum owner. Pecker is going to be most upset.  ;D Working out okay for you, FD? Perhaps you've not caught a faint smell on the wind? I would pay attention to it, if i were you. what about if black people say they are supreme? Would you get angry?

Angry? No. It takes more than that to make me angry, Hammer.

A better question would be do i think a black person thinking black people are superior would trouble me.

The answer is no.

However, i am troubled by white people claiming supremacy.

Can you work out why?

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 9:55am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:52am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:50am: Dr Mengele wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:28am: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:43pm: If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so. And there it is in black and white from the forum owner. Pecker is going to be most upset.  ;D Working out okay for you, FD? Perhaps you've not caught a faint smell on the wind? I would pay attention to it, if i were you. what about if black people say they are supreme? Would you get angry? Angry? No. It takes more than that to make me angry, Hammer. A better question would be do i think a black person thinking black people are superior would trouble me. The answer is no. However, i am troubled by white people claiming supremacy. Can you work out why?

nope. it's the same thing.

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 9:55am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:52am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:50am: Dr Mengele wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:28am: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:43pm: If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so. And there it is in black and white from the forum owner. Pecker is going to be most upset.  ;D Working out okay for you, FD? Perhaps you've not caught a faint smell on the wind? I would pay attention to it, if i were you. what about if black people say they are supreme? Would you get angry? Angry? No. It takes more than that to make me angry, Hammer. A better question would be do i think a black person thinking black people are superior would trouble me. The answer is no. However, i am troubled by white people claiming supremacy. Can you work out why?

Because you are a self loathing socialist who hates 'whitey'.

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 9:58am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:55am: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:52am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:50am: Dr Mengele wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:28am: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:43pm: If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so. And there it is in black and white from the forum owner. Pecker is going to be most upset.  ;D Working out okay for you, FD? Perhaps you've not caught a faint smell on the wind? I would pay attention to it, if i were you. what about if black people say they are supreme? Would you get angry? Angry? No. It takes more than that to make me angry, Hammer. A better question would be do i think a black person thinking black people are superior would trouble me. The answer is no. However, i am troubled by white people claiming supremacy. Can you work out why? nope. it's the same thing.

No. It's not. Not by a very long shot.

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 9:59am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:58am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:55am: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:52am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:50am: Dr Mengele wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:28am: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:43pm: If people think whites are supreme, they are allowed to say so. And there it is in black and white from the forum owner. Pecker is going to be most upset.  ;D Working out okay for you, FD? Perhaps you've not caught a faint smell on the wind? I would pay attention to it, if i were you. what about if black people say they are supreme? Would you get angry? Angry? No. It takes more than that to make me angry, Hammer. A better question would be do i think a black person thinking black people are superior would trouble me. The answer is no. However, i am troubled by white people claiming supremacy. Can you work out why? nope. it's the same thing. No. It's not. Not by a very long shot.

why?

Who's got the power, Hammer?

Furthermore, for what reasons would a black person consider themselves superior?

For what reasons would a white person consider themselves superior?

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:04am:

Who's got the power, Hammer? Furthermore, for what reasons would a black person consider themselves superior? For what reasons would a white person consider themselves superior?

The power issue is irrelevant. It's a personal choice. There are loads of black nationalist groups in the US.

Irrelevant? Really?

Then for what reason would one think white is superior?

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:09am:

Irrelevant? Really? Then for what reason would one think white is superior?

because white run the best countries.

how come muslims threaten infidels and nothing happens to them ?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:51am:

how come muslims threaten infidels and nothing happens to them ?

Well when a muslim threatens to kill an infidel /whitey they are representatives of the religion of peace if whitey complains or retaliates they are filthy racist islamophobes.

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 10:09am:

Irrelevant? Really? Then for what reason would one think white is superior?

Probably the same sorts of reasons other races feel racial superiority. Blackies because they are athletic and have big ding dongs, Asians because they are great with technology. whities because they are great civilisation builders and invention creators.

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 11:15am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:09am: Irrelevant? Really? Then for what reason would one think white is superior? Probably the same sorts of reasons other races feel racial superiority. Blackies because they are athletic and have big ding dongs, Asians because they are great with technology. whities because they are great civilisation builders and invention creators.

Oh Hammer! You really believe that crap, don't you. Bless.

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 11:21am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:15am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 10:09am: Irrelevant? Really? Then for what reason would one think white is superior? Probably the same sorts of reasons other races feel racial superiority. Blackies because they are athletic and have big ding dongs, Asians because they are great with technology. whities because they are great civilisation builders and invention creators. Oh Hammer! You really believe that crap, don't you. Bless.

It's true. People believe that stuff. Me personally I'm just an eating and shitting earth crawler. No better or worse than anybody else. People believe in all sorts of superiority things. In Sydney where I live people believe they are superior to others because of where they live. Do you feel superior to people that eat meat?

No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone.

I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone.

I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness.

.... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least.

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 11:45am:

No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least.

I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean?



Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they?

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 11:55am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they?

Do you? In what way? In all ways?

You seriously think that people with mental health issues and those who fail to meet your standards of intellect are worth less than you?

Seriously?

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 11:58am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:55am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they? Do you? In what way? In all ways? You seriously think that people with mental health issues and those who fail to meet your standards of intellect are worth less than you? Seriously?

Even you have a hatred of the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid, you used them as a derisve comment for those who think they are better.

So I like you, think I am better than the mentally ill and gobsmaingly stupid.


You can use a mental and sub intellectual condition as an insult and then complain when other people pile on.  :) :)


Unless you want to retract that statement.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 11:55am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they?

I am in your club, BigOl64.

Us Superior people are ............ just better.
That is all

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:02pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:58am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:55am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they? Do you? In what way? In all ways? You seriously think that people with mental health issues and those who fail to meet your standards of intellect are worth less than you? Seriously? Even you have a hatred of the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid, you used them as a derisve comment for those who think they are better. So I like you think I am better than the mentally ill and gobsmaingly stupid. You can use a mental and sub intellectual condition as an insult and then complain when other people pile on.  :) :) Unless you want to retract that statement.

BigOl, you're presenting as gobsmackingly stupid. Is this intended?

Are you trying to prove a point?

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 11:58am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:55am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they? Do you? In what way? In all ways? You seriously think that people with mental health issues and those who fail to meet your standards of intellect are worth less than you? Seriously?

YES

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:09pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:58am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:55am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they? Do you? In what way? In all ways? You seriously think that people with mental health issues and those who fail to meet your standards of intellect are worth less than you? Seriously? YES

Do you think that is the message from Jesus?

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:09pm: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:58am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:55am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they? Do you? In what way? In all ways? You seriously think that people with mental health issues and those who fail to meet your standards of intellect are worth less than you? Seriously? YES Do you think that is the message from Jesus?

Fkk jesus, he has nothing to do with anything. First up he isn't real, second he isn't real.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:15pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:10pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:09pm: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:58am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:55am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they? Do you? In what way? In all ways? You seriously think that people with mental health issues and those who fail to meet your standards of intellect are worth less than you? Seriously? YES Do you think that is the message from Jesus? Fkk jesus, he has nothing to do with anything. First up he isn't real, second he isn't real.

Sprint believes in him though.

Do you consider yourself superior to Sprint?

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:20pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:15pm: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:10pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:09pm: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:58am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:55am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they? Do you? In what way? In all ways? You seriously think that people with mental health issues and those who fail to meet your standards of intellect are worth less than you? Seriously? YES Do you think that is the message from Jesus? Fkk jesus, he has nothing to do with anything. First up he isn't real, second he isn't real. Sprint believes in him though. Do you consider yourself superior to Sprint?

Look at you all ready to divide and conquer.  ;D ;D ;D


You going to retract your insult to mentally ill and gobsmakingly stupid?

Is that a yes, BigOl?

You're going to have to remind me of what comment i need to retract. I can't recall making any comments about my superiority to anyone.

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Is that a yes, BigOl? You're going to have to remind me of what comment i need to retract. I can't recall making any comments about my superiority to anyone.

Your making such a comment is superfluous..... everyone has their merits and their deficits.... thus you are the best mothra around the traps....... and BigOle is the best BigOle.... longie the best longie... without the input of all these various characters, this would be a very boring place...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:33pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Is that a yes, BigOl? You're going to have to remind me of what comment i need to retract. I can't recall making any comments about my superiority to anyone. Your making such a comment is superfluous..... everyone has their merits and their deficits.... thus you are the best mothra around the traps....... and BigOle is the best BigOle.... longie the best longie... without the input of all these various characters, this would be a very boring place...

You don't follow the bouncing ball too well, do you Grap.

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:30pm:

Is that a yes, BigOl? You're going to have to remind me of what comment i need to retract. I can't recall making any comments about my superiority to anyone.

Then you need to learn to read and comprehend better shouldn't you?


You can't demean the mentally ill and gobsmakingly stupid without feeling superior, or didn't you realise how demeaning one or more groups make them feel?

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Is that a yes, BigOl? You're going to have to remind me of what comment i need to retract. I can't recall making any comments about my superiority to anyone. Then you need to learn to read and comprehend better shouldn't you? You can't demean the mentally ill and gobsmakingly stupid without feeling superior, or didn't you realise how demeaning one or more groups make them feel?

So you can't provide evidence of me feeling superior to anyone.

Didn't think so.

You shouldn't just make stuff up, you know.

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:10pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:09pm: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:58am: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:55am: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:45am: No Hammer. I do not believe myself superior to anyone. I think most people do not consider themselves superior to anyone. I consider thinking yourself superior to anyone to be a sign of mental illness. .... or gobsmacking stupidity. Tremendous ignorance at the least. I consider myself superior to the mentally ill and the gobsmakingly stupid,  what does than mean? Oh and socialists, but everyone should feel superior to the lazy and stupid socialists, shouldn't they? Do you? In what way? In all ways? You seriously think that people with mental health issues and those who fail to meet your standards of intellect are worth less than you? Seriously? YES Do you think that is the message from Jesus?

Quote:

............ Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire .........

Matthew 7:17-19

Quote:

Quote: ............ Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire ......... Matthew 7:17-19

Did you like that one BigOl64 ?

mothra wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 12:48pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:46pm: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Is that a yes, BigOl? You're going to have to remind me of what comment i need to retract. I can't recall making any comments about my superiority to anyone. Then you need to learn to read and comprehend better shouldn't you? You can't demean the mentally ill and gobsmakingly stupid without feeling superior, or didn't you realise how demeaning one or more groups make them feel? So you can't provide evidence of me feeling superior to anyone. Didn't think so. You shouldn't just make stuff up, you know.

You are an incredibly stupid person aren't you?

I mean kicked in the fkken head by a mule level of stupid.

No wonder people treat you with such contempt and derision.  :) :) :)

Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 1:26pm:

Quote: Quote: ............ Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire ......... Matthew 7:17-19 Did you like that one BigOl64 ?

Yeah, I see no point in religion at any level.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:48pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:46pm: mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 12:30pm: Is that a yes, BigOl? You're going to have to remind me of what comment i need to retract. I can't recall making any comments about my superiority to anyone. Then you need to learn to read and comprehend better shouldn't you? You can't demean the mentally ill and gobsmakingly stupid without feeling superior, or didn't you realise how demeaning one or more groups make them feel? So you can't provide evidence of me feeling superior to anyone. Didn't think so. You shouldn't just make stuff up, you know. You are an incredibly stupid person aren't you? I mean kicked in the fkken head by a mule level of stupid. No wonder people treat you with such contempt and derision.  :) :) :)

Oh good. We've reached the "insult in lieu of argument" stage of proceedings.

What one does, i suppose, when one just makes stuff up and is called on it.

freediver wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:47pm: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:31pm: Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken? Absolutely. Threatening to kill anyone should never be tolerated. What if they are reading from the Koran at the time? One of the people who held up a beheading sign in Australia handed herself into the police afterwards. They basically told her to go away.

FD you're smart enough to know when people are threatening to kill and when they're not. You're just trying to be cute about it.

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 5:06am:

We don't jail mussies for calling for the murder of non-muslims here in Australia

We should, if and when that ever happens.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 6:19pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 5:06am: We don't jail mussies for calling for the murder of non-muslims here in Australia We should, if and when that ever happens.

I agree we should but we don't and I doubt we will. We just wait until they start carrying out the threats and then toss them into Super-max.



Mind you we don't have a plan for when those murdering psychopaths get out, probably the same plan we don't have for all the murdering psychopaths returning from terrorists groups overseas.


It's a problem when your prime minister is a p1ss weak apologist I suppose.

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polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 6:17pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:24pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:47pm: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:31pm: Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken? Absolutely. Threatening to kill anyone should never be tolerated. What if they are reading from the Koran at the time? One of the people who held up a beheading sign in Australia handed herself into the police afterwards. They basically told her to go away. FD you're smart enough to know when people are threatening to kill and when they're not. You're just trying to be cute about it.

The guy in the OP was not threatening to kill anyone. If I could tell when Muslims were going to actually start killing people I would be a rich man. Or at least, important.

BTW, you didn't answer the question Gandalf.

How many of the beheading placard people were actually threatening to kill someone?

freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 8:28pm:

The guy in the OP was not threatening to kill anyone.

He was calling for people to be killed. I classify that as a threat. Lets not needlessly split hairs FD.

Gandy, there seems to be a fair bit of agreement from all sides that the subject of the OP should be punished in some manner yet no unilateral concensus that Muslims demanding beheadings should suffer a similar fate.

Why?

Gordon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 11:46am:

Gandy, there seems to be a fair bit of agreement from all sides that the subject of the OP should be punished in some manner yet no unilateral concensus that Muslims demanding beheadings should suffer a similar fate. Why?

good point


I could be wrong  and yes I will expect those who are NEVER wrong to show me..

but I have never seen where Israeli soldiers have beheaded any Arabs at this stage...oh and posted their heads on fence posts..


now thats an eye for an eye if ever there was one.. >:(

with luck  no other group or culture will ever go to that level..

Gordon wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 11:46am:

Gandy, there seems to be a fair bit of agreement from all sides that the subject of the OP should be punished in some manner yet no unilateral concensus that Muslims demanding beheadings should suffer a similar fate. Why?

Well moth would never condemn muslim threats under any circumstance, she would be more inclined to attack the messenger than show any real concern that these people are in our midst





mothra wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 4:28pm:

Oh look! BigOl has pulled out one of his 3 only arguments (two of which are pictures). It's interesting to note he's pulled out one of his other 3 arguments in a thread in the Islam section only moments ago .. so expect to see trauma-porn of a woman being horrendously executed any moment.

We even had greenswine tried to lie about the veracity of the evidence presented, though his lie was easily proven wrong and yet unacknowledged by him.


The apologists for muslim terrorists are without shame or intellect it seems.  :) :) :)

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 6:19pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 5:06am: We don't jail mussies for calling for the murder of non-muslims here in Australia We should, if and when that ever happens.

oh you do walk around with selective blinkers on after all... ;D ;D ;D


a threat by any other name   is still a threat  :D

cods wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 12:08pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:19pm: BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 5:06am: We don't jail mussies for calling for the murder of non-muslims here in Australia We should, if and when that ever happens. oh you do walk around with selective blinkers on after all... ;D ;D ;D a threat by any other name   is still a threat  :D

Oh?  I always taught to never make threats, just promises, Cods...   ::)

John Smith wrote on Sep 11^th, 2017 at 7:38pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:16pm: I am not aware of anything similar being called for here. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D can't believe he said that :D :D

Here's your opportunity to prove me wrong the first time in your life and you are passing it up just to grin like a halfwit.

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 13^th, 2017 at 10:43am:

freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 8:28pm: The guy in the OP was not threatening to kill anyone. He was calling for people to be killed. I classify that as a threat. Lets not needlessly split hairs FD.

So how do we tell whether a Muslim talking about slaughtering the Mushriken wherever you find them is actually talking about slaughtering the Mushriken wherever you find them?


freediver wrote on Sep 12^th, 2017 at 8:28pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:24pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:47pm: freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:31pm: Should we also jail Muslims who call for the killing of all the Mushriken? Absolutely. Threatening to kill anyone should never be tolerated. What if they are reading from the Koran at the time? One of the people who held up a beheading sign in Australia handed herself into the police afterwards. They basically told her to go away. FD you're smart enough to know when people are threatening to kill and when they're not. You're just trying to be cute about it. The guy in the OP was not threatening to kill anyone. If I could tell when Muslims were going to actually start killing people I would be a rich man. Or at least, important. BTW, you didn't answer the question Gandalf. How many of the beheading placard people were actually threatening to kill someone?

When Muslims do it it's  different  FD. With muslims it's  just a plackard.
But a Facefook post is completely different. Ask Zuckerberg.