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Message started by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:14pm

Title: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:14pm
Female prawns are having their eyes sliced open and cut off!



Prawn farms are performing a cruel procedure on live prawns to make them breed faster. Female prawns have their eye sliced open and squeezed out, or cut off with a heated blade — usually without any pain relief. This practice, called 'eyestalk ablation' happens in almost all prawn hatcheries around the world — including Australia.

A female prawn has a hormonal gland behind her eye that moderates reproduction, only allowing her to breed when conditions are suitable. The stressful and crowded conditions on farms can make prawns reluctant to reproduce. By cutting her eye, prawn farmers destroy the gland, forcing her into rapid sexual maturity.

Scientists have found that prawns who have their eye sliced open or cut off become disoriented, flick their tails (an escape reflex) and rub the traumatised area — all behaviours associated with pain.

Research has found that, given the right environment, female prawns will breed without having their eye cut off. One of Latin America's largest group of prawn farms, SeaJoy, has already phased out this gruesome procedure.

If you believe that all animals deserve compassion, send a message to the heads of the Australian Prawn Farmers Association and tell them to stop cutting eyes off prawns.





Sign the petition here:


https://secure.animalsaustralia.org/take_action/prawns-eyes-cut-off/

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:23pm
I've signed it.

The human species disgusts me for the most part.

Where is the leadership from our politicians to ban these cruel practices, but instead we have to go begging and signing petitions.

Utterly pathetic.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:25pm
Onya Herbie. Couldn't agree more.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:36pm
Just allow me to play slight devlis advocate here.
1. Whilst not defending the practice, the effect of no ablation is enough to significantly reduce prawn reproduction to the point of being uneconomic. There is however research into the mole biology of this which should improve the practice without the need for ablation

2.  Regeneration of the eyestalk has been observed.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:39pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:25pm:
Onya Herbie. Couldn't agree more.


Where profits are the issue, human decency comes a distant second.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:41pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:36pm:
Just allow me to play slight devlis advocate here.
1. Whilst not defending the practice, the effect of no ablation is enough to significantly reduce prawn reproduction to the point of being uneconomic. There is however research into the mole biology of this which should improve the practice without the need for ablation

2.  Regeneration of the eyestalk has been observed.



Are you sure you're not defending the practice?

I would counter point one by saying that surely we must have evolved ethically to the point that economic viability should not take precedence over the zero tolerance of unquestionable cruelty. Would you say this practice would be okay for a cow? For a dog?

Point two is simply irrelevant.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm
The abuses of batchhouse chicken 'farms' and the Live Export industry are just two of the most glaring moral damnations that can be cited against the feeble characters we having 'serving the community' down there in Canberra.

Yes, it's true, I've been known to piss on snails in my backyard during the rainy seasons, but then they soon retreat into their shells at the onset of these Golden Showers that I favour them with.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:44pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:36pm:
Just allow me to play slight devlis advocate here.
1. Whilst not defending the practice, the effect of no ablation is enough to significantly reduce prawn reproduction to the point of being uneconomic. There is however research into the mole biology of this which should improve the practice without the need for ablation

2.  Regeneration of the eyestalk has been observed.



Are you sure you're not defending the practice?

I would counter point one by saying that surely we must have evolved ethically to the point that economic viability should not take precedence over the zero tolerance of unquestionable cruelty. Would you say this practice would be okay for a cow? For a dog?

Point two is simply irrelevant.




Apart from the problems of not providing pain relief, why is point two irrelevant?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:44pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:36pm:
Just allow me to play slight devlis advocate here.
1. Whilst not defending the practice, the effect of no ablation is enough to significantly reduce prawn reproduction to the point of being uneconomic. There is however research into the mole biology of this which should improve the practice without the need for ablation

2.  Regeneration of the eyestalk has been observed.



Are you sure you're not defending the practice?

I would counter point one by saying that surely we must have evolved ethically to the point that economic viability should not take precedence over the zero tolerance of unquestionable cruelty. Would you say this practice would be okay for a cow? For a dog?

Point two is simply irrelevant.




Apart from the problems of not providing pain relief, why is point two irrelevant?



What does something need eyes for?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:48pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
What does something need eyes for?



Cut off what's at the end of Bojack's stalk and let's see how he likes it.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:49pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.




You've just committed a logical fallacy right there. I'm a realist, signing a petition like this is not going to stop people eating prawns, just as the awareness of mulesing doesnt stop people eating lamb or buying wool.


On the other hand, whole hordes of people buying prawns from manufacturers who do not use ablation techniques will change the industry.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:50pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:44pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:36pm:
Just allow me to play slight devlis advocate here.
1. Whilst not defending the practice, the effect of no ablation is enough to significantly reduce prawn reproduction to the point of being uneconomic. There is however research into the mole biology of this which should improve the practice without the need for ablation

2.  Regeneration of the eyestalk has been observed.



Are you sure you're not defending the practice?

I would counter point one by saying that surely we must have evolved ethically to the point that economic viability should not take precedence over the zero tolerance of unquestionable cruelty. Would you say this practice would be okay for a cow? For a dog?

Point two is simply irrelevant.




Apart from the problems of not providing pain relief, why is point two irrelevant?



What does something need eyes for?




Good point, if they cut off both eyes. But again this is an appeal to emotion.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.




You've just committed a logical fallacy right there. I'm a realist, signing a petition like this is not going to stop people eating prawns, just as the awareness of mulesing doesnt stop people eating lamb or buying wool.


On the other hand, whole hordes of people buying prawns from manufacturers who do not use ablation techniques will change the industry.




Yes. That's what the petition is for. And what i'm doing here. Rasising awareness.

Were i a prawn eater, upon learning this, i would seek to ethically source my prawns.

That would be my primary reaction.

Your primary reaction, on the other hand, was to justify it and refute that prawns would rather like eyes, if it's all the same to everyone.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:53pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.




You've just committed a logical fallacy right there. I'm a realist, signing a petition like this is not going to stop people eating prawns, just as the awareness of mulesing doesnt stop people eating lamb or buying wool.


On the other hand, whole hordes of people buying prawns from manufacturers who do not use ablation techniques will change the industry.




Yes. That's what the petition is for. And what i'm doing here. Rasising awareness.

Were i a prawn eater, upon learning this, i would seek to ethically source my prawns.

That would be my primary reaction.

Your primary reaction, on the other hand, was to justify it and refute that prawns would rather like eyes, if it's all the same to everyone.




No my reaction would be the same as yours. To ethically source prawns, or do more research into how widepread this practice usually is, or if its a PETA style beat up.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:54pm
In other words facts.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:55pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.




You've just committed a logical fallacy right there. I'm a realist, signing a petition like this is not going to stop people eating prawns, just as the awareness of mulesing doesnt stop people eating lamb or buying wool.


On the other hand, whole hordes of people buying prawns from manufacturers who do not use ablation techniques will change the industry.




Yes. That's what the petition is for. And what i'm doing here. Rasising awareness.

Were i a prawn eater, upon learning this, i would seek to ethically source my prawns.

That would be my primary reaction.

Your primary reaction, on the other hand, was to justify it and refute that prawns would rather like eyes, if it's all the same to everyone.




No my reaction would be the same as yours. To ethically source prawns, or do more research into how widepread this practice usually is, or if its a PETA style beat up.


Yet, it wasn't, was it. You just talked about how it was financially nonviable not to and said that it didn't matter if prawns had their eyes sliced or burnt off.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:57pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
In other words facts.



It's either okay with you or it isn't. I'm not interested in trying to convince you to care about prawns. That's entirely up to you.

Sign the petition, don't sign the petition. Whatever.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:57pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.




You've just committed a logical fallacy right there. I'm a realist, signing a petition like this is not going to stop people eating prawns, just as the awareness of mulesing doesnt stop people eating lamb or buying wool.


On the other hand, whole hordes of people buying prawns from manufacturers who do not use ablation techniques will change the industry.




Yes. That's what the petition is for. And what i'm doing here. Rasising awareness.

Were i a prawn eater, upon learning this, i would seek to ethically source my prawns.

That would be my primary reaction.

Your primary reaction, on the other hand, was to justify it and refute that prawns would rather like eyes, if it's all the same to everyone.




No my reaction would be the same as yours. To ethically source prawns, or do more research into how widepread this practice usually is, or if its a PETA style beat up.


Yet, it wasn't, was it. You just talked about how it was financially nonviable not to and said that it didn't matter if prawns had their eyes sliced or burnt off.




Get off your damn high horse and actually read I wrote again.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:00pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.




You've just committed a logical fallacy right there. I'm a realist, signing a petition like this is not going to stop people eating prawns, just as the awareness of mulesing doesnt stop people eating lamb or buying wool.


On the other hand, whole hordes of people buying prawns from manufacturers who do not use ablation techniques will change the industry.




Yes. That's what the petition is for. And what i'm doing here. Rasising awareness.

Were i a prawn eater, upon learning this, i would seek to ethically source my prawns.

That would be my primary reaction.

Your primary reaction, on the other hand, was to justify it and refute that prawns would rather like eyes, if it's all the same to everyone.




No my reaction would be the same as yours. To ethically source prawns, or do more research into how widepread this practice usually is, or if its a PETA style beat up.


Yet, it wasn't, was it. You just talked about how it was financially nonviable not to and said that it didn't matter if prawns had their eyes sliced or burnt off.




Get off your damn high horse and actually read I wrote again.


I did. And my reflection of it is spot on.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:00pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
In other words facts.



It's either okay with you or it isn't. I'm not interested in trying to convince you to care about prawns. That's entirely up to you.

Sign the petition, don't sign the petition. Whatever.




Cool, I wont sign the petition, I'll do stuff that actually works, like trying to source prawns from areas that dont use ablation.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:01pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.




You've just committed a logical fallacy right there. I'm a realist, signing a petition like this is not going to stop people eating prawns, just as the awareness of mulesing doesnt stop people eating lamb or buying wool.


On the other hand, whole hordes of people buying prawns from manufacturers who do not use ablation techniques will change the industry.




Yes. That's what the petition is for. And what i'm doing here. Rasising awareness.

Were i a prawn eater, upon learning this, i would seek to ethically source my prawns.

That would be my primary reaction.

Your primary reaction, on the other hand, was to justify it and refute that prawns would rather like eyes, if it's all the same to everyone.




No my reaction would be the same as yours. To ethically source prawns, or do more research into how widepread this practice usually is, or if its a PETA style beat up.


Yet, it wasn't, was it. You just talked about how it was financially nonviable not to and said that it didn't matter if prawns had their eyes sliced or burnt off.




Get off your damn high horse and actually read I wrote again.


I did. And my reflection of it is spot on.



I said get off your high horse and then do it. In other words, stop being a emotional retard and try facts.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:02pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:54pm:
In other words facts.



It's either okay with you or it isn't. I'm not interested in trying to convince you to care about prawns. That's entirely up to you.

Sign the petition, don't sign the petition. Whatever.




Cool, I wont sign the petition, I'll do stuff that actually works, like trying to source prawns from areas that dont use ablation.



And how do you know about ablation, Bojack?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:02pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.




You've just committed a logical fallacy right there. I'm a realist, signing a petition like this is not going to stop people eating prawns, just as the awareness of mulesing doesnt stop people eating lamb or buying wool.


On the other hand, whole hordes of people buying prawns from manufacturers who do not use ablation techniques will change the industry.




Yes. That's what the petition is for. And what i'm doing here. Rasising awareness.

Were i a prawn eater, upon learning this, i would seek to ethically source my prawns.

That would be my primary reaction.

Your primary reaction, on the other hand, was to justify it and refute that prawns would rather like eyes, if it's all the same to everyone.




No my reaction would be the same as yours. To ethically source prawns, or do more research into how widepread this practice usually is, or if its a PETA style beat up.


Yet, it wasn't, was it. You just talked about how it was financially nonviable not to and said that it didn't matter if prawns had their eyes sliced or burnt off.




Get off your damn high horse and actually read I wrote again.


I did. And my reflection of it is spot on.



I said get off your high horse and then do it. In other words, stop being a emotional retard and try facts.


Where have i not stated facts?

It seems to me you just don't like the summary of your input thus far. I can understand why.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:04pm
Prawns are feminists and other ideologues now?  Who'd 've thunk it?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:06pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
I've signed it.

The human species disgusts me for the most part.

Where is the leadership from our politicians to ban these cruel practices, but instead we have to go begging and signing petitions.

Utterly pathetic.


I agree....

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:06pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:02pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:00pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:57pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:55pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:43pm:
I'm dead certain I'm not defending the practice. To me the argument is like mulesing. You always want better practice, but show me a better solution first.


So, you accept unspeakable cruelty if it yields profit.

So don't sign the petition.




You've just committed a logical fallacy right there. I'm a realist, signing a petition like this is not going to stop people eating prawns, just as the awareness of mulesing doesnt stop people eating lamb or buying wool.


On the other hand, whole hordes of people buying prawns from manufacturers who do not use ablation techniques will change the industry.




Yes. That's what the petition is for. And what i'm doing here. Rasising awareness.

Were i a prawn eater, upon learning this, i would seek to ethically source my prawns.

That would be my primary reaction.

Your primary reaction, on the other hand, was to justify it and refute that prawns would rather like eyes, if it's all the same to everyone.




No my reaction would be the same as yours. To ethically source prawns, or do more research into how widepread this practice usually is, or if its a PETA style beat up.


Yet, it wasn't, was it. You just talked about how it was financially nonviable not to and said that it didn't matter if prawns had their eyes sliced or burnt off.




Get off your damn high horse and actually read I wrote again.


I did. And my reflection of it is spot on.



I said get off your high horse and then do it. In other words, stop being a emotional retard and try facts.


Where have i not stated facts?

It seems to me you just don't like the summary of your input thus far. I can understand why.




Apart from the misinterpretation of i dont defend the practice, but .....

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:20pm
But Bojack, you did defend the practice. You were more focused on whether it was a PETA style beat-up than the animals rights violation that you strove to justify it .. even going so far as to question what prawns would need with eyes anyway, at least both of them.

And because it's just a pesky animal rights campaign, you won't sign the petition because you don't think anything so trivial an prawns being so commercially over-bred that they become so distressed they require having their eyes removed to make reproduction economically viable should be considered by our decision makers.

Not really important enough is it? You just will ask the fish monger is those prawns in the window had their eyes cut or burnt off.

Thank you for doing something.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:24pm
Why is it that we try to ban sustainable harvest of free range animals before this sort of thing?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:25pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
But Bojack, you did defend the practice. You were more focused on whether it was a PETA style beat-up than the animals rights violation that you strove to justify it .. even going so far as to question what prawns would need with eyes anyway, at least both of them.

And because it's just a pesky animal rights campaign, you won't sign the petition because you don't think anything so trivial an prawns being so commercially over-bred that they become so distressed they require having their eyes removed to make reproduction economically viable should be considered by our decision makers.

Not really important enough is it? You just will ask the fish monger is those prawns in the window had their eyes cut or burnt off.

Thank you for doing something.




I meant in terms of how commonplace this is in Australia (in reference to the beat up)

E.g. mothra, do you know how commonplace this is?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:27pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:25pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
But Bojack, you did defend the practice. You were more focused on whether it was a PETA style beat-up than the animals rights violation that you strove to justify it .. even going so far as to question what prawns would need with eyes anyway, at least both of them.

And because it's just a pesky animal rights campaign, you won't sign the petition because you don't think anything so trivial an prawns being so commercially over-bred that they become so distressed they require having their eyes removed to make reproduction economically viable should be considered by our decision makers.

Not really important enough is it? You just will ask the fish monger is those prawns in the window had their eyes cut or burnt off.

Thank you for doing something.




I meant in terms of how commonplace this is in Australia (in reference to the beat up)

E.g. mothra, do you know how commonplace this is?



Standard practice.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:28pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:25pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
But Bojack, you did defend the practice. You were more focused on whether it was a PETA style beat-up than the animals rights violation that you strove to justify it .. even going so far as to question what prawns would need with eyes anyway, at least both of them.

And because it's just a pesky animal rights campaign, you won't sign the petition because you don't think anything so trivial an prawns being so commercially over-bred that they become so distressed they require having their eyes removed to make reproduction economically viable should be considered by our decision makers.

Not really important enough is it? You just will ask the fish monger is those prawns in the window had their eyes cut or burnt off.

Thank you for doing something.




I meant in terms of how commonplace this is in Australia (in reference to the beat up)

E.g. mothra, do you know how commonplace this is?



Standard practice.




Thats a pretty vague answer. 50%? 60%?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:29pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:25pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
But Bojack, you did defend the practice. You were more focused on whether it was a PETA style beat-up than the animals rights violation that you strove to justify it .. even going so far as to question what prawns would need with eyes anyway, at least both of them.

And because it's just a pesky animal rights campaign, you won't sign the petition because you don't think anything so trivial an prawns being so commercially over-bred that they become so distressed they require having their eyes removed to make reproduction economically viable should be considered by our decision makers.

Not really important enough is it? You just will ask the fish monger is those prawns in the window had their eyes cut or burnt off.

Thank you for doing something.




I meant in terms of how commonplace this is in Australia (in reference to the beat up)

E.g. mothra, do you know how commonplace this is?



Standard practice.




Thats a pretty vague answer. 50%? 60%?



Almost every. I do not know percentages. I don't see why it matters.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by greggerypeccary on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:31pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
The human species disgusts me for the most part.


Herbie and I are in complete agreement, once again.

Disgusting.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:34pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:27pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:25pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:20pm:
But Bojack, you did defend the practice. You were more focused on whether it was a PETA style beat-up than the animals rights violation that you strove to justify it .. even going so far as to question what prawns would need with eyes anyway, at least both of them.

And because it's just a pesky animal rights campaign, you won't sign the petition because you don't think anything so trivial an prawns being so commercially over-bred that they become so distressed they require having their eyes removed to make reproduction economically viable should be considered by our decision makers.

Not really important enough is it? You just will ask the fish monger is those prawns in the window had their eyes cut or burnt off.

Thank you for doing something.




I meant in terms of how commonplace this is in Australia (in reference to the beat up)

E.g. mothra, do you know how commonplace this is?



Standard practice.




Thats a pretty vague answer. 50%? 60%?



Almost every. I do not know percentages. I don't see why it matters.




Because if its 1%, its not standard. Again its the argument about facts.  I've dealt with animals australia before when they emailed me about the practices at my work and found their facts extremely dodgy.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Rhino on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:39pm
Pity the prawns. Just let the human children remain in abusive households getting molested and bashed, this is a prime example of Mothras lack of moral compass.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:39pm
It's standard practice, Bojack. All over the world.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:41pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:39pm:
It's standard practice, Bojack. All over the world.



All I'm reading from this is that you can't answer my question.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:42pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:39pm:
It's standard practice, Bojack. All over the world.



All I'm reading from this is that you can't answer my question.


What is your question, Bojack?

Why is it relevant?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:12pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
What does something need eyes for?




Good point, if they cut off both eyes. But again this is an appeal to emotion.



It's actually an appeal to ones sense of fairness and decency as a human being.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:13pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
What does something need eyes for?




Good point, if they cut off both eyes. But again this is an appeal to emotion.



It's actually an appeal to ones sense of fairness and decency as a human being.


Exactly how i see it too, Herbie. Well put!

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:15pm

rhino wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:39pm:
Pity the prawns. Just let the human children remain in abusive households getting molested and bashed, this is a prime example of Mothras lack of moral compass.


Bojack will be returning to us shortly to tell us how he feels about the thing at the end of his stalk being sliced off for commercially profittable reasons.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:15pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:41pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:39pm:
It's standard practice, Bojack. All over the world.



All I'm reading from this is that you can't answer my question.


What is your question, Bojack?

Why is it relevant?



Because the petition is designed on the basis the practice is widespread. You've said its standard. What does any of that mean?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:16pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
What does something need eyes for?




Good point, if they cut off both eyes. But again this is an appeal to emotion.



It's actually an appeal to ones sense of fairness and decency as a human being.




All of which is emotional. So you agree with me.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:16pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:13pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
What does something need eyes for?




Good point, if they cut off both eyes. But again this is an appeal to emotion.



It's actually an appeal to ones sense of fairness and decency as a human being.


Exactly how i see it too, Herbie. Well put!


Anyone who has been circumcised unjustly should be signing this petition.  :)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:20pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:16pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
What does something need eyes for?




Good point, if they cut off both eyes. But again this is an appeal to emotion.



It's actually an appeal to ones sense of fairness and decency as a human being.




All of which is emotional. So you agree with me.


Not ethical then. Well, certainly not from your perspective.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:32pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:16pm:
All of which is emotional. So you agree with me.


If those emotions are prompted by ones moral values and ability to empathise, then they are not emotions which have no substance or justification.

And frankly I think your little game has exhausted itself in terms or needing any more attention from either myself or Mothra.

Leave the little sod alone, Mothra, his trolling has run its course.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:04pm

rhino wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 2:39pm:
Pity the prawns. Just let the human children remain in abusive households getting molested and bashed, this is a prime example of Mothras lack of moral compass.


What?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by hatman92 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:53pm
... or prefer having sight over not having sight?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:00pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:53pm:
... or prefer having sight over not having sight?


He's just having a Matty moment, Mother.

Thanks for the petition, by the way. It's these sorts of genuine problems and solutions that make a site like this site worth coming to again.

Otherwise, this site would just be a group w@nk for racists.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:17pm
You're welcome, Karnal. Thanks from me and the prawns for caring ... :)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:35pm
For gods sake Mothra. You should know that emotion has no valid use when it comes to governing intellect.  ::)
;D

We all know that kids who pull wings off flies end up in prisons for their cruel ways.

The over-populated nations deem it necessary to justify their irresponsible breedings by sustaining themselves in 'any' manner possible at the cost of everything else.
Even Prawns. Over-populated nations 'can't afford' to do things right - they are desperate.

Don't expect Politicians to know what's best for Conservation and animals. Where is a Nation that makes Conservation as its priority and can set a good example for every other Nation? There is none. So until then, animals will always be FREE GAME.

Petitions and Protests never achieve much success, especially here in OZ, where the Politicians have blatantly expressed on Radio that such will always just be ignored ('arrogantly'). The Liberals have already stated they will no longer fund any protective measures for animal species that are deemed of no 'constructive/productive' use - regardless how rare.

Mind you, remember when young and those chicks in the nightclubs who were 'blind' drunk were easy to score with?  :D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:39pm
JaSin, many rights for many people and animals have been won through public awareness and agitation.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with requiring humaneness. I think it should be the least we do, don't you?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:39pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:35pm:
For gods sake Mothra. You should know that emotion has no valid use when it comes to governing intellect.  ::)
;D

We all know that kids who pull wings off flies end up in prisons for their cruel ways.

The over-populated nations deem it necessary to justify their irresponsible breedings by sustaining themselves in 'any' manner possible at the cost of everything else.
Even Prawns. Over-populated nations 'can't afford' to do things right - they are desperate.

Don't expect Politicians to know what's best for Conservation and animals. Where is a Nation that makes Conservation as its priority and can set a good example for every other Nation? There is none. So until then, animals will always be FREE GAME.

Petitions and Protests never achieve much success, especially here in OZ, where the Politicians have blatantly expressed on Radio that such will always just be ignored ('arrogantly'). The Liberals have already stated they will no longer fund any protective measures for animal species that are deemed of no 'constructive/productive' use - regardless how rare.

Mind you, remember when young and those chicks in the nightclubs who were 'blind' drunk were easy to score with?  :D


I've heard the opposite. I've heard governments take a lot of notice about petitions. Petitions have changed a good number of policies.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:40pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:39pm:
JaSin, many rights for many people and animals have been won through public awareness and agitation.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with requiring humaneness. I think it should be the least we do, don't you?


Hell no. Only violence works when it comes to protecting animals from my experience.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:42pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:40pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:39pm:
JaSin, many rights for many people and animals have been won through public awareness and agitation.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with requiring humaneness. I think it should be the least we do, don't you?


Hell no. Only violence works when it comes to protecting animals from my experience.


Well that's just not true, JaSin. The overwhelming majority of animal rights campaigners, activists and groups are non-violent.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:43pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:35pm:
For gods sake Mothra. You should know that emotion has no valid use when it comes to governing intellect.  ::)
;D

We all know that kids who pull wings off flies end up in prisons for their cruel ways.

The over-populated nations deem it necessary to justify their irresponsible breedings by sustaining themselves in 'any' manner possible at the cost of everything else.
Even Prawns. Over-populated nations 'can't afford' to do things right - they are desperate.

Don't expect Politicians to know what's best for Conservation and animals. Where is a Nation that makes Conservation as its priority and can set a good example for every other Nation? There is none. So until then, animals will always be FREE GAME.

Petitions and Protests never achieve much success, especially here in OZ, where the Politicians have blatantly expressed on Radio that such will always just be ignored ('arrogantly'). The Liberals have already stated they will no longer fund any protective measures for animal species that are deemed of no 'constructive/productive' use - regardless how rare.

Mind you, remember when young and those chicks in the nightclubs who were 'blind' drunk were easy to score with?  :D


I've heard the opposite. I've heard governments take a lot of notice about petitions. Petitions have changed a good number of policies.



Also effective are letters through snail mail. They are considered to represent a percentage of votes. I've forgotten that percentage however.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:53pm
No. Violence works better.
See a guy belt a dog. Give him a whack.
Working in Poultry industry and see guys kick the chickens - give them a whacking.
Chinese guy asks me to kill rare species for him. It's a knife to the throat threateningly.
Boaties illegally fishing, its holes in their boats, etc.

Doing the cliché Lefty "Peace, love and moonbeams" does not work. The fact that Lefties have indeed become more violent - as seen in the USA recently just goes to show how 'repressed' and frustrated they are.
Such 'Protesters' have been man-handled quite violently and removed because they are just not taken seriously.
Even John Howard laughed at Old Growth Forest protesters when the Cops and Loggers moved in and 'forcibly' removed them.

You 'peace, love and moonbeamers' are a laugh. No-one takes you seriously.

"Stop" ..."or I'll say 'stop' again."  ::)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:55pm
Preventing animal cruelty is not peace, love and mungbeans, dear. It's our duty as civilised humans.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 5:59pm
No JaSin. There have always been violent protestors on the left. There is nothing new. At every protest, action or demonstation i have ever been to over 20 years, there have been a small percentage of enthusiastic late teen and early-twenties with scarves around their muzzles and throwing stuff.

I was very enthusiastic myself at that age ... but my principles of non-violence saw me take it out on inanimate objects, like the overwhelming majority do and have always done.

But just like every fringe movement or activist expression, the violent enthusiastic ones get on the news. And the masses, unfortunately, apply the qualities of those few to the main.

They do it Muslims too. And feminists. And too many to mention others.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm
And that's why you all fall short of success.

If you truly wish to save Animals, etc.
Then you will take 'every measure' to guarantee success.
Might is Right.
That's how Politics sees it.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:02pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
And that's why you all fall short of success.

If you truly wish to save Animals, etc.
Then you will take 'every measure' to guarantee success.
Might is Right.
That's how Politics sees it.



Oh think we have become much more humane and conscious of sustainability over the last couple of decades, JaSin.

I, for example, was a freak when i was a teenager. I'm main-stream now.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:04pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
And that's why you all fall short of success.

If you truly wish to save Animals, etc.
Then you will take 'every measure' to guarantee success.
Might is Right.
That's how Politics sees it.


We're discussing the industrial practice of blinding animals to make them breed more. How could anybody justify this?

You might. Anyone else who reads Mothra's article will be horrified.,

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:06pm
Yeah - those Shark Culling Protests really made head-way  ::)
Government just laughed at it all.
I see the nets are back in along NSW coast.

Mind you. Providing a better alternative goes a long way too. Until then, things just go along as they have been.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:09pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
And that's why you all fall short of success.

If you truly wish to save Animals, etc.
Then you will take 'every measure' to guarantee success.
Might is Right.
That's how Politics sees it.


We're discussing the industrial practice of blinding animals to make them breed more. How could anybody justify this?

You might. Anyone else who reads Mothra's article will be horrified.,


I'm not justifying it.
I'm saying Protests & Petitions are a waste of time and just make people feel better about themselves having 'tried'.
If you don't like Prawns being eye-gauged, then go burn down the business and let it be an example to the rest.
Belt some of the workers. Bully their kids at school.
Make life hell for them.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:10pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:06pm:
Yeah - those Shark Culling Protests really made head-way  ::)
Government just laughed at it all.
I see the nets are back in along NSW coast.

Mind you. Providing a better alternative goes a long way too. Until then, things just go along as they have been.



Do ou think that as a result of those shark fin protests, awreness was raised? May have made the news evn?

Is that how you know about it?

Do you think anybody who found about it through that mechanism stopped eating shark fin soup? Or told someone else who won't eat shark fin soup anymore?

Someone may read your reference to sharkfin soup and be inspired to learn more about it and change their own practices.

And nobody gets hurt.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:11pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:10pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:06pm:
Yeah - those Shark Culling Protests really made head-way  ::)
Government just laughed at it all.
I see the nets are back in along NSW coast.

Mind you. Providing a better alternative goes a long way too. Until then, things just go along as they have been.



Do ou think that as a result of those shark fin protests, awreness was raised? May have made the news evn?

Is that how you know about it?

Do you think anybody who found about it through that mechanism stopped eating shark fin soup? Or told someone else who won't eat shark fin soup anymore?

Someone may read your reference to sharkfin soup and be inspired to learn more about it and change their own practices.

And nobody gets hurt.


Protests and Petitions are for Victims,
not Victors.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:11pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:09pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
And that's why you all fall short of success.

If you truly wish to save Animals, etc.
Then you will take 'every measure' to guarantee success.
Might is Right.
That's how Politics sees it.


We're discussing the industrial practice of blinding animals to make them breed more. How could anybody justify this?

You might. Anyone else who reads Mothra's article will be horrified.,


I'm not justifying it.
I'm saying Protests & Petitions are a waste of time and just make people feel better about themselves having 'tried'.
If you don't like Prawns being eye-gauged, then go burn down the business and let it be an example to the rest.
Belt some of the workers. Bully their kids at school.
Make life hell for them.




Sorry JaSin. I've just seen too much policy change because of non-violent, grass-roots activism to even remotely agree with you.

In fact, violence sets processes back.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:13pm

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.


Anything with a nervous system feels pain.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:15pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Female prawns are having their eyes sliced open and cut off!



Prawn farms are performing a cruel procedure on live prawns to make them breed faster. Female prawns have their eye sliced open and squeezed out, or cut off with a heated blade — usually without any pain relief. This practice, called 'eyestalk ablation' happens in almost all prawn hatcheries around the world — including Australia.

A female prawn has a hormonal gland behind her eye that moderates reproduction, only allowing her to breed when conditions are suitable. The stressful and crowded conditions on farms can make prawns reluctant to reproduce. By cutting her eye, prawn farmers destroy the gland, forcing her into rapid sexual maturity.

Scientists have found that prawns who have their eye sliced open or cut off become disoriented, flick their tails (an escape reflex) and rub the traumatised area — all behaviours associated with pain.

Research has found that, given the right environment, female prawns will breed without having their eye cut off. One of Latin America's largest group of prawn farms, SeaJoy, has already phased out this gruesome procedure.

If you believe that all animals deserve compassion, send a message to the heads of the Australian Prawn Farmers Association and tell them to stop cutting eyes off prawns.





Sign the petition here:


https://secure.animalsaustralia.org/take_action/prawns-eyes-cut-off/


You're a fargin prawn.

How about you worrying about the imported prawns that have caused the outbreak of whitespot disease in QLD prawn farms costing people their livelihood & possibly bankrupting them.

And to the farmed asian green prawns that imported for nongs like you to eat that are pumped full of some chemical concoction to increase their size and weight?


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:15pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:02pm:
I, for example, was a freak when i was a teenager. I'm main-stream now.



;D ;D ;D

So there's hope for Marla yet?!

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:16pm
Gee Mothra. I could see you at Marathon telling the invading Persians that you have a Petition while holding a Protest Sign above your head. Yep that'll work  ::)

I love it when Park Rangers shoot Poachers dead in their tracks.
I can't agree with the 'Western' Hollywood/Media perception of getting kids dressed up as Pirates to show them that Piracy is a 'fun' thing.  ::)

Protests & Petitions are a 'political' avenue - which is ironic because Politics does not succeed at Conservation, rather - it has left open many a door for so much conservational damage over the century.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:17pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
And that's why you all fall short of success.

If you truly wish to save Animals, etc.
Then you will take 'every measure' to guarantee success.
Might is Right.
That's how Politics sees it.


We're discussing the industrial practice of blinding animals to make them breed more. How could anybody justify this?

You might. Anyone else who reads Mothra's article will be horrified.,


x2

People who are unable or unwilling to empathise with the suffering of innocent animals or people are moral imbeciles.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:18pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:15pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Female prawns are having their eyes sliced open and cut off!



Prawn farms are performing a cruel procedure on live prawns to make them breed faster. Female prawns have their eye sliced open and squeezed out, or cut off with a heated blade — usually without any pain relief. This practice, called 'eyestalk ablation' happens in almost all prawn hatcheries around the world — including Australia.

A female prawn has a hormonal gland behind her eye that moderates reproduction, only allowing her to breed when conditions are suitable. The stressful and crowded conditions on farms can make prawns reluctant to reproduce. By cutting her eye, prawn farmers destroy the gland, forcing her into rapid sexual maturity.

Scientists have found that prawns who have their eye sliced open or cut off become disoriented, flick their tails (an escape reflex) and rub the traumatised area — all behaviours associated with pain.

Research has found that, given the right environment, female prawns will breed without having their eye cut off. One of Latin America's largest group of prawn farms, SeaJoy, has already phased out this gruesome procedure.

If you believe that all animals deserve compassion, send a message to the heads of the Australian Prawn Farmers Association and tell them to stop cutting eyes off prawns.





Sign the petition here:


https://secure.animalsaustralia.org/take_action/prawns-eyes-cut-off/


You're a fargin prawn.

How about you worrying about the imported prawns that have caused the outbreak of whitespot disease in QLD prawn farms costing people their livelihood & possibly bankrupting them.

And to the farmed asian green prawns that imported for nongs like you to eat that are pumped full of some chemical concoction to increase their size and weight?



I'm sorry Gnads. Did i not cover enough ground?

Any other prawn related subject matter i should have included to justify me caring about prawns being so stressed by their farming conditions, they only reproduce if you cut the end off their eye-stalks and squeeze out their eyes.

I'll make sure i don't do it again.

Do you have a petition about white spot i can sign? I'll sign it happily.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:20pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
Gee Mothra. I could see you at Marathon telling the invading Persians that you have a Petition while holding a Protest Sign above your head. Yep that'll work  ::)

I love it when Park Rangers shoot Poachers dead in their tracks.
I can't agree with the 'Western' Hollywood/Media perception of getting kids dressed up as Pirates to show them that Piracy is a 'fun' thing.  ::)

Protests & Petitions are a 'political' avenue - which is ironic because Politics does not succeed at Conservation, rather - it has left open many a door for so much conservational damage over the century.



You've absolutely no idea what i've done or do.

Or what i have seen done.

Suffice it to say, achievements are made through nonviolence. I know this to be true. It is indisputable.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:22pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:16pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:13pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 3:12pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:50pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
What does something need eyes for?




Good point, if they cut off both eyes. But again this is an appeal to emotion.



It's actually an appeal to ones sense of fairness and decency as a human being.


Exactly how i see it too, Herbie. Well put!


Anyone who has been circumcised unjustly should be signing this petition.  :)


Now that is funny  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:23pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:20pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:16pm:
Gee Mothra. I could see you at Marathon telling the invading Persians that you have a Petition while holding a Protest Sign above your head. Yep that'll work  ::)

I love it when Park Rangers shoot Poachers dead in their tracks.
I can't agree with the 'Western' Hollywood/Media perception of getting kids dressed up as Pirates to show them that Piracy is a 'fun' thing.  ::)

Protests & Petitions are a 'political' avenue - which is ironic because Politics does not succeed at Conservation, rather - it has left open many a door for so much conservational damage over the century.



You've absolutely no idea what i've done or do.

Or what i have seen done.

Suffice it to say, achievements are made through nonviolence. I know this to be true. It is indisputable.


Yep - Mr 'non-violence' Gay Gandhi told his people to go out and make love not war against the British.
Look at the country now.  ::)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:29pm
Commentator: "It's at this point of the Topic folks that Mothra is on the verge of wanting to physically hit JaSin."

You know you want to Mothra  ;)




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Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm
I love King Prawns or Tiger Prawns and always try to buy 'Australian'.

I usually buy $10 worth every few weeks and then pig-out on them with vinegar while watching TV in the evening.

And then I occasionally stuff myself with New Zealand Green Lipped Mussels dipped in a bowl of vinegar.

To die for.

I bought a tin of Crab Meat that was bland as hell and that was that.

I haven't eaten a piece of lobster since I was a boy. I must see about that.

Had battered New Zealand Hoki last week with a squeeze of lemon - again, to die for.

Used to LOVE salted sun-dried octopussies when I lived in Hong Kong. It was like beef jerky or biltong. Delicious.

Just sayin'.

:)

PS. The only use I've ever found for Calamari is to hold my socks up ...

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by hatman92 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:
Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So you think every animal feels pain the same way humans do?

I hope you do not take antibiotics when unwell.  Painful death for all those organisms in your body.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:30pm
Not at all JaSin. I'm quite happy to respectfully disagree with you.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by aquascoot on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:33pm
i can see good arguements from both Jasin and mothra on this one.

blame the prawn farmers..possibly
blame the protestors ..possibly.

but the main cause of animal cruelty lies fairly and squarely at the feet of "fat steve" and his "fat wife" .

you see, theres this thing called "the marketplace"
another name for this is "reality".

fat steve and fat janeen just want to pleasure themselves.
they are in lower consciousness.
they just want to slide those prawns into their mouths along with the cage eggs, the factory sow bacon, the $2 milk brought at the expense of the slaughter of male claves.
fat steve wants his dog (doesnt care if it comes from a puppy farm). he wants his XXXL tracky pants (doesnt care if a bangladeshi kid gets $1 a day to make them).
he wants his internet porn .
he wants his iphone (made by some little asian kiddie).

steve wants it all and as cheap as possible , because steve has a lot of "pleasuring himself to do" to make up for his mediocre failed life.

and the market responds to steve.
there are simply "too many steves".
the politicians, the market, the economy are driven by fat steve , fat janeen and their entitled kids.

now mothra is right ...its a disgrace.
jasin is right...it aint going to change.

i cant get thru to steve to make him aspire to more then mediocrity and mothra cant get thru to steve to make him aspire to more then pleasuring himself.

best to just move up the narrow road to success and pity steve...he is beyond help...this is true for 90 % of the population who are asleep at the wheels of their own lives.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm
Cruelty will never fall out of fashion with certain people.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:37pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



Here's our latest generation exuding sympathy and a care for this highly sensitive animal's pain ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaBqY0cIBeY

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:40pm
I believe it can change. I further believe the best possible chance in it changing is by raising awareness, consumer boycott  and campaigning (including actions,demonstrations, protests, petitions, letter writing etc).

I can assure you that achievements have been won for humans and animals all over the world .. every day ... through mechanisms such as this.

I can absolutely guarantee you that saying nothing is ever going to change so why bother trying is the single best way to ensure nothing ever changes.

If one person who has read this thread starts ethically sourcing their prawns because of reading it .. do you not think that is a achievement?

So you not think people being educated on the subject will lead to people putting pressure on those who can make a difference?

Why do you think we have a (nowhere near good enough but better than it was by a long way) free-range chicken industry? Why do you think some people ask about where their flesh came from? Why do you think vegetarians and vegans are rapidly growing in number?

Through violence?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



I'm a vegetarian, Gnads.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm
Herbert ...... So has yours still got the tarp on?

If not are you feeling the trauma of it's removal all over again?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:42pm
double up.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



I'm a vegetarian, Gnads.


Well say no more ..... figures.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:45pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



I'm a vegetarian, Gnads.


Well say no more ..... figures.


A vegetarian feminist who likes Muslims and Aboriginal people.

I'm hideous, aren't i?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:11pm

Yep - the USA is standing outside of North Korea holding a Petition and a Protest Banner saying "Stop ...or we'll say Stop again."
;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gordon on Sep 4th, 2017 at 7:39pm
Should we send the prawn farmers to Iran for a bit of eye
for an eye punishment?

Man's eye gouged out in Iran under Sharia 'eye for eye' retribution law for acid attack

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mans-eye-gouged-out-in-iran-under-sharia-eye-for-eye-retribution-law-for-acid-attack-10091523.html

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by hatman92 on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:17pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:20pm:
Suffice it to say, achievements are made through nonviolence.


Not really.

Non violence only works when you have someone backing you up protecting you from violence.

Like nation laws, governments who have the monopoly on violence (police do have guns and use them). A heavily armed defence force also helps as well.

I am sure if I do something the majority do not like and they force the government to do something and I refuse to cooperate with authorities, the authorities will happily use violence on me.

So much for non-violence.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 8:28pm
"We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm."


George Orwell.

Unfortunately prawns are not privileged to enjoy the same protection by having rough prawns standing ready in the night to visit violence on those who would harm them.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:31pm

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:10pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:06pm:
Yeah - those Shark Culling Protests really made head-way  ::)
Government just laughed at it all.
I see the nets are back in along NSW coast.

Mind you. Providing a better alternative goes a long way too. Until then, things just go along as they have been.



Do ou think that as a result of those shark fin protests, awreness was raised? May have made the news evn?

Is that how you know about it?

Do you think anybody who found about it through that mechanism stopped eating shark fin soup? Or told someone else who won't eat shark fin soup anymore?

Someone may read your reference to sharkfin soup and be inspired to learn more about it and change their own practices.

And nobody gets hurt.


Protests and Petitions are for Victims,
not Victors.


Tell that to the swami who threw the British Empire out of India.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:34pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:17pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:04pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:01pm:
And that's why you all fall short of success.

If you truly wish to save Animals, etc.
Then you will take 'every measure' to guarantee success.
Might is Right.
That's how Politics sees it.


We're discussing the industrial practice of blinding animals to make them breed more. How could anybody justify this?

You might. Anyone else who reads Mothra's article will be horrified.,


x2

People who are unable or unwilling to empathise with the suffering of innocent animals or people are moral imbeciles.


Or they're just having a jolly old laugh - at the prawns' expense.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:35pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



I'm a vegetarian, Gnads.


Well say no more ..... figures.


A vegetarian feminist who likes Muslims and Aboriginal people.

I'm hideous, aren't i?


Feminists are not supposed to care about that sort of thing.

Do prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Frank on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:36pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.b

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



I'm a vegetarian, Gnads.

;D
Of course you are. Vegetarian SSM advocating hijabi feminist.  ;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:38pm



.. 'PRAWNS LIVES MATTER!' 

>:( :( >:(

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gordon on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:00pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:38pm:
.. 'PRAWNS LIVES MATTER!' 

>:( :( >:(


PRAWNS EYES MATTER....unless they're in batter  ;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:06pm

freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



I'm a vegetarian, Gnads.


Well say no more ..... figures.


A vegetarian feminist who likes Muslims and Aboriginal people.

I'm hideous, aren't i?


Feminists are not supposed to care about that sort of thing.

Do prawns feel pain?


Have you read the article?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:10pm

freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



I'm a vegetarian, Gnads.


Well say no more ..... figures.


A vegetarian feminist who likes Muslims and Aboriginal people.

I'm hideous, aren't i?


Feminists are not supposed to care about that sort of thing.

Do prawns feel pain?


See Aussie? FD is teaching me. I now know that as a feminist, i'm not supposed to care about being hideous ... which i take it to mean i don't have to care about the way i look anymore.

Because what else could hideous represent of a woman than what appears to the eye?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Frank on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:18pm
We now have po-faced petitions about prawns.
Next - cruelty to vermin, outrage over mosquito repellents, shooting - the horror! - of feral animals.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Frank on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:18pm
We now have po-faced petitions about prawns.
Next - cruelty to vermin, outrage over mosquito repellents, shooting - the horror! - of feral animals.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:20pm

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:10pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:45pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:43pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:41pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:52pm:

hatman92 wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 4:49pm:
First of all.

Do prawns feel pain?

Putting how a human would feel on another animal is just stupid.



Why on earth would you think for a moment that prawns don't feel pain?


So we should ban catching them via trawl or stripe rope set net?

That wouldn't be any less painful than this procedure you have described.

And once caught they are then thrown into boiling water alive to be cooked.

The same happens to Spanner Crab, Blue Swimmer Crab, crayfish, mud crab, and other assorted crustaceans.

No more seafood for you Mothballs or anyone else here making a song & dance about this tripe.



I'm a vegetarian, Gnads.


Well say no more ..... figures.


A vegetarian feminist who likes Muslims and Aboriginal people.

I'm hideous, aren't i?


Feminists are not supposed to care about that sort of thing.

Do prawns feel pain?


See Aussie? FD is teaching me. I now know that as a feminist, i'm not supposed to care about being hideous ... which i take it to mean i don't have to care about the way i look anymore.

Because what else could hideous represent of a woman than what appears to the eye?


Beauty is only skin deep. Ugly goes right to the bone.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:23pm

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:24pm

Frank wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:18pm:
We now have po-faced petitions about prawns.
Next - cruelty to vermin, outrage over mosquito repellents, shooting - the horror! - of feral animals.


Feral? Do you mean creatures imported to Australia and released into the wild to breed?

That's not very nice, Frank. We let you in. We're hardly going to put bait out to poison hideous old breeders who refuse to assimilate, now are we?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:22pm
Violence?

Which is the most violent Industry?
Military of course.

Now...

If only the 'Green' Militaries of the World
helped
their fellow 'Green' Conservationists
the Animals of the World might actually have 'Protection'.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:12am
Anyway, that's enough about hideous feminists. Not sure why they think the seafood thread is all about them.

Does anyone know if prawn feel pain?


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:41am


This is a lot of replies for what is essentially a cockroach, a very delicious cockroach. But a cockroach none the less.




Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gordon on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:21am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:41am:
This is a lot of replies for what is essentially a cockroach, a very delicious cockroach. But a cockroach none the less.


The sole purpose of this thread is for the OP to sit in moral judgment of people who couldn't give a crap about prawn eyes

Once again, Gordy nails it.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:34pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:21am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:41am:
This is a lot of replies for what is essentially a cockroach, a very delicious cockroach. But a cockroach none the less.


The sole purpose of this thread is for the OP to sit in moral judgment of people who couldn't give a crap about prawn eyes

Once again, Gordy nails it.



Incorrect. But then again, you usually are.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:01pm
Do hideous, smelly prawns feel pain, Mothra?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:07pm
Why on earth wouldn't prawns have one of the most basic physiological mechanisms to sense danger?

Why would you even ask the question? High hopes?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:15pm
Are you saying you don't know the answer Mothra?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:16pm

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
Are you saying you don't know the answer Mothra?



No. I certainly do know the answer. I would just like to know why you would ask such a stupid question.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:41pm
What's the answer Mothra?

Don't want to talk about it?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by JaSinner on Sep 5th, 2017 at 6:44pm
I'm pretty certain Prawns feel 'the pain' of it.
Just like many small critters have been recorded exhibiting 'pain' sounds or distress. Spiders 'chirp', but when feeling pain - they screech.

When Spearos hammer a piece of underwater territory - the majority of the remainder of fish not speared, tend to leave from watching the stress of speared fish.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:55pm
Prawns scream when you toss them in boiling water.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gordon on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:28pm
In reality, this one is easy to debunk. Lobsters have no vocal cords, no organs of any type for audio communication. It's just not possible for them to "scream" in any way we could hear, in any circumstance. The sound you may hear is expanding air bubbles trapped in their shells expanding and finding an avenue of escape from their bodies while they boil.

https://pacificedgetackle.com/custom.aspx?id=155

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gordon on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:54am

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:12am:
Anyway, that's enough about hideous feminists. Not sure why they think the seafood thread is all about them.

Does anyone know if prawn feel pain?


I do, FD. It's in the article. You probably haven't read it.

But I'm curious. How could prawns possibly not feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 6th, 2017 at 1:14am
So no-one knows whether prawns feel pain eh? I'm surprised it wasn't in the article.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 6th, 2017 at 1:43am

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 1:14am:
So no-one knows whether prawns feel pain eh? I'm surprised it wasn't in the article.


Oh, yes it was. Do you know if Muslims feel pain, FD?

We're all curious.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by cods on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:50am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.



I guess thats a whole new thread bigole.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:02am

cods wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:50am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.



I guess thats a whole new thread bigole.




For the fishermen to discuss along with other live bait options.   :) :) :)



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Redmond Neck on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:43am


http://www.animalsaustralia.org/factsheets/fish_crustaceans.php

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Frank on Sep 6th, 2017 at 10:21pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZF_IQg6-Mw


Prawn feel no pain.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Fireball on Sep 7th, 2017 at 8:17am
"Prawns have eyes sliced off"

That's what happens when ISIS have prawn cocktails...... ;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:03am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



Live prawn or fresh/brackish water shrimp are often used for Barra & especially King Threadfin Salmon fishing.

It's common around here & anyone who fishes & isn't an urban cowboy would know the benefits of using live bait for targeting certain fish species.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:07am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?


In a bucket of water  ::)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:34pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:07am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?


In a bucket of water  ::)


Good. Now where does one get these live prawns?

You might want to ask FD, Gonads. He's our resident fishing expert.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)


I know about live bait (little fishes or worms). We're discussing live prawns.

All of the blokes I know buy them frozen from the petrol station.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 8th, 2017 at 3:36pm
well when I was a kid and fished in the river with  my dad used to use shrimp as live bait and they were kept alive prior to use by being submerged in the river in a live bait container-the same woud apply to prawns kept live bait I would imagine-

But as an aside wtf we are argueing about prawns here-  I laughed till I cried lol - I will never be able to look a prawn in the eye again- and if it was up to isis they would have been  de- eyed in a cave with a ransom attached to their prawny heads-  I have been scarred for life now- I'll never eat a prawn again  :'(

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 8th, 2017 at 4:02pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:07am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?


In a bucket of water  ::)


Good. Now where does one get these live prawns?

You might want to ask FD, Gonads. He's our resident fishing expert.

they could be trapped as they do lobsters etc then kept in an onboard live bait well or a bait trap for onshore - submerged in the water until use- there would likely not be places where you can buy live prawns- but there could be for all I know

There is a prawny looking creature that they pump out of sand on NSW beaches with a metal hand operated  pump- I saw them but dont know what are they called- but they are used as bait too- they might even be eaten-

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:49pm
Yabbies. Not good eating, but the easiest live bait to get your hands on. Good for bream and whiting.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:50am

freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Yabbies. Not good eating, but the easiest live bait to get your hands on. Good for bream and whiting.


And prawns?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:58am

freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Yabbies. Not good eating, but the easiest live bait to get your hands on. Good for bream and whiting.

Thanks FD- they are also known as nippers - I have eaten freshwater yabbies but never these ones-

http://www.surftosapphires.org/?page_id=609


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 9th, 2017 at 1:10am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:50am:

freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Yabbies. Not good eating, but the easiest live bait to get your hands on. Good for bream and whiting.


And prawns?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfbW4h9GsVw

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 9th, 2017 at 8:12am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)


I know about live bait (little fishes or worms). We're discussing live prawns.

All of the blokes I know buy them frozen from the petrol station.



And?



Do they cast or drag bait nets where it is easy to catch live prawns along with sardines and poddy mullet.


What is with the fixation, it isn't that important of a subject, what is your little pea sized brain struggling with?



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 9th, 2017 at 1:55pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

Gnads wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:07am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?


In a bucket of water  ::)


Good. Now where does one get these live prawns?

You might want to ask FD, Gonads. He's our resident fishing expert.


Are you fair dinkum?  ::)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 9th, 2017 at 1:59pm

Agnes wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:58am:

freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Yabbies. Not good eating, but the easiest live bait to get your hands on. Good for bream and whiting.

Thanks FD- they are also known as nippers - I have eaten freshwater yabbies but never these ones-

http://www.surftosapphires.org/?page_id=609




That's because they aren't good eating .... they are a bait item because fish like to eat them.  ;)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 9th, 2017 at 2:00pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)


I know about live bait (little fishes or worms). We're discussing live prawns.

All of the blokes I know buy them frozen from the petrol station.



And?



Do they cast or drag bait nets where it is easy to catch live prawns along with sardines and poddy mullet.


What is with the fixation, it isn't that important of a subject, what is your little pea sized brain struggling with?


All his food comes from a shop  ::) ;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 9th, 2017 at 7:23pm

Gnads wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 1:59pm:

Agnes wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:58am:

freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Yabbies. Not good eating, but the easiest live bait to get your hands on. Good for bream and whiting.

Thanks FD- they are also known as nippers - I have eaten freshwater yabbies but never these ones-

http://www.surftosapphires.org/?page_id=609




That's because they aren't good eating .... they are a bait item because fish like to eat them.  ;)

Many very tasty table fish are used as bait Gnads-the  red mullet being one of them- and squid razor fish etc- I dont like seeing good table  fish used as bait but there you go- esp when you consider that some fish will bite a rag on a hook- someone has tried to eat them at one time

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 10th, 2017 at 2:38am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)


I know about live bait (little fishes or worms). We're discussing live prawns.

All of the blokes I know buy them frozen from the petrol station.



And?



Do they cast or drag bait nets where it is easy to catch live prawns along with sardines and poddy mullet.


What is with the fixation, it isn't that important of a subject, what is your little pea sized brain struggling with?


The fact that prawn schools only come out at night, and you need a light to attract them with.

Now enough's enough. I'm willing to bet no one uses live prawns as bait. Which of you bottom-feeders wants to take me on?

Don't answer too quickly, Big Hole.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:10am

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.



were you trying to catch them , or did they just end up in your net while you were going after something else??

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:34am
I was trying to catch them.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:28pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.


We'll need a bit more detail here, FD. Time, Place, etc. Also, we'll need you to answer a few test questions to assess your honestly. Up for it?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:30pm
Do prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:34pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Do prawns feel pain?


What would you change if they did?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:46pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Do prawns feel pain?


Didn't think so. Still, I gave it a go.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Rhino on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:50pm
Who would have guessed prawns start off alive.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:54pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Do prawns feel pain?


What would you change if they did?


The article FD refuses to read talks about the prawns thrashing about wildly after they've had their eyes cut out.

To suggest crustaceans don't feel paid is ludicrous. All those whiskers/antennae are sensors. Crustaceans are incredibly sensitive.

How could a prawn not feel it's eyes being ripped out? How could an animal that needs to find food and escape predators not feel the loss of its eyesight?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Do prawns feel pain?


What would you change if they did?


The article FD refuses to read talks about the prawns thrashing about wildly after they've had their eyes cut out.

To suggest crustaceans don't feel paid is ludicrous. All those whiskers/antennae are sensors. Crustaceans are incredibly sensitive.

How could a prawn not feel it's eyes being ripped out? How could an animal that needs to find food and escape predators not feel the loss of its eyesight?


Dunno.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Neferti on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lord Herbert on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:12pm

Gordon wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 10:00pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 9:38pm:
.. 'PRAWNS LIVES MATTER!' 

>:( :( >:(


PRAWNS EYES MATTER....unless they're in batter  ;D


;D

I've reported you to PETA.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:26pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Do prawns feel pain?


What would you change if they did?


The article FD refuses to read talks about the prawns thrashing about wildly after they've had their eyes cut out.

To suggest crustaceans don't feel paid is ludicrous. All those whiskers/antennae are sensors. Crustaceans are incredibly sensitive.

How could a prawn not feel it's eyes being ripped out? How could an animal that needs to find food and escape predators not feel the loss of its eyesight?


And yet, not a single person in this thread has claimed they do feel pain.

Ludicrous, no?

How well do you think a prawn would fare if it waited until it felt pain to avoid a predator?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:34pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Do prawns feel pain?


What would you change if they did?


The article FD refuses to read talks about the prawns thrashing about wildly after they've had their eyes cut out.

To suggest crustaceans don't feel paid is ludicrous. All those whiskers/antennae are sensors. Crustaceans are incredibly sensitive.

How could a prawn not feel it's eyes being ripped out? How could an animal that needs to find food and escape predators not feel the loss of its eyesight?


And yet, not a single person in this thread has claimed they do feel pain.

Ludicrous, no?

How well do you think a prawn would fare if it waited until it felt pain to avoid a predator?

Wild guess....as well as we would?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:36pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Do prawns feel pain?


What would you change if they did?


The article FD refuses to read talks about the prawns thrashing about wildly after they've had their eyes cut out.

To suggest crustaceans don't feel paid is ludicrous. All those whiskers/antennae are sensors. Crustaceans are incredibly sensitive.

How could a prawn not feel it's eyes being ripped out? How could an animal that needs to find food and escape predators not feel the loss of its eyesight?


And yet, not a single person in this thread has claimed they do feel pain.

Ludicrous, no?


Apart from the article, no.

But so what? Your rationalisation that fish/crustaceans don't feel pain is a way to justify cruelty. Anyone who goes fishing can see fish thrashing about in pain when they're caught and killed. Anyone who's watched fish in tanks has seen how they respond to touch from each other. Anyone who's watched lobsters has seen how sensitive they are, responding to the lightest movements in their environment.

Would you like to answer a question now?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:36pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:34am:
I was trying to catch them.



how do you get prawns in daylight?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by cods on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:47pm

Neferti wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?



self portrait you reckon... :) :)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:51pm

cods wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:47pm:

Neferti wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?



self portrait you reckon... :) :)



well that didn't take long

cods wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 4:28pm:
I can only believe they are people with low self esteem low intelligence and full of bitterness   for some reason....

sadly some never left  the school playground behind either.....they drag it around with them 

we superb people can of course rise above them  and CHAT about just about anything...

come on sprint...start a topic  and lets chat and see what happens.....dont make it controversial though....

we dont want to attract negative neville do we..


:D :D :D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:56pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:26pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:34pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Do prawns feel pain?


What would you change if they did?


The article FD refuses to read talks about the prawns thrashing about wildly after they've had their eyes cut out.

To suggest crustaceans don't feel paid is ludicrous. All those whiskers/antennae are sensors. Crustaceans are incredibly sensitive.

How could a prawn not feel it's eyes being ripped out? How could an animal that needs to find food and escape predators not feel the loss of its eyesight?


And yet, not a single person in this thread has claimed they do feel pain.

Ludicrous, no?

How well do you think a prawn would fare if it waited until it felt pain to avoid a predator?

Wild guess....as well as we would?


Correct Aussie. We do not rely on the perception of pain to avoid predation.


Quote:
But so what? Your rationalisation that fish/crustaceans don't feel pain is a way to justify cruelty. Anyone who goes fishing can see fish thrashing about in pain when they're caught and killed.


They can see it thrashing about. They do not see the "in pain" bit.


Quote:
how do you get prawns in daylight?


Using my fishing skills.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:59pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
Using my fishing skills.


I guess I should be grateful that a pathetic answer is more than your usual avoiding an answer.

I'm serious. I've never seen anyone catch prawns during the day. I myself have been prawning many times at night, with both drag and scoop nets. How do you target prawns during the day?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:59pm

Agnes wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 1:10am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 12:50am:

freediver wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Yabbies. Not good eating, but the easiest live bait to get your hands on. Good for bream and whiting.


And prawns?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfbW4h9GsVw

Man catching prawns in daylight-

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:03pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
Using my fishing skills.


I guess I should be grateful that a pathetic answer is more than your usual avoiding an answer.

I'm serious. I've never seen anyone catch prawns during the day. I myself have been prawning many times at night, with both drag and scoop nets. How do you target prawns during the day?


You just wait till the sun comes up John.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:07pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
Using my fishing skills.


I guess I should be grateful that a pathetic answer is more than your usual avoiding an answer.

I'm serious. I've never seen anyone catch prawns during the day. I myself have been prawning many times at night, with both drag and scoop nets. How do you target prawns during the day?


You just wait till the sun comes up John.



you're as useful at tits on a bull.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:20pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:07pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
Using my fishing skills.


I guess I should be grateful that a pathetic answer is more than your usual avoiding an answer.

I'm serious. I've never seen anyone catch prawns during the day. I myself have been prawning many times at night, with both drag and scoop nets. How do you target prawns during the day?


You just wait till the sun comes up John.



you're as useful at tits on a bull.


You can't catch prawns during the day.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:41pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
You can't catch prawns during the day.




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.

:D :D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:49pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
You can't catch prawns during the day.




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.

:D :D


I guess that's the difference between you and I John.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Frank on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:53pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:07pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:03pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:59pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 7:56pm:
Using my fishing skills.


I guess I should be grateful that a pathetic answer is more than your usual avoiding an answer.

I'm serious. I've never seen anyone catch prawns during the day. I myself have been prawning many times at night, with both drag and scoop nets. How do you target prawns during the day?


You just wait till the sun comes up John.



you're as useful at tits on a bull.

You are subliminally dissing Bruce Jenner, phobe! Gweggy will have somefin to say.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:58pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
You can't catch prawns during the day.




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.

:D :D


I guess that's the difference between you and I John.


yes, you lie and then pretend otherwise, whereas I always stand by what I say

I can see now why you usually avoid answers to any questions

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 10th, 2017 at 9:16pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
You can't catch prawns during the day.




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.

:D :D


I guess that's the difference between you and I John.


The 'difference' being he caught you red handed on a blatant lie, and you have not so caught him?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:58pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
You can't catch prawns during the day.




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.

:D :D


I guess that's the difference between you and I John.


yes, you lie and then pretend otherwise, whereas I always stand by what I say

I can see now why you usually avoid answers to any questions



Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 9:16pm:
The 'difference' being he caught you red handed on a blatant lie, and you have not so caught him?


What lie, genius?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:32pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:58pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
You can't catch prawns during the day.




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.

:D :D


I guess that's the difference between you and I John.


yes, you lie and then pretend otherwise, whereas I always stand by what I say

I can see now why you usually avoid answers to any questions



Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 9:16pm:
The 'difference' being he caught you red handed on a blatant lie, and you have not so caught him?


What lie, genius?

more catching of live bait I presume

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:42pm
Something like that.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:43pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
What lie, genius?




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
What lie, genius?




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.


Just because you can't do it, does not mean it's not possible John.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 10th, 2017 at 11:24pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:58pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:49pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:41pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
You can't catch prawns during the day.




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:07am:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.

:D :D


I guess that's the difference between you and I John.


yes, you lie and then pretend otherwise, whereas I always stand by what I say

I can see now why you usually avoid answers to any questions


Yes, but FD has "principles".


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 10th, 2017 at 11:36pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
What lie, genius?




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.


Just because you can't do it, does not mean it's not possible John.


Now FD won't say, so we'll have to flesh this one out for ourselves. FD takes to the open seas with a big net and light just before dawn to catch the best prawns to use as live bait. He then puts them in a portable seawater tank to keep them alive for his day's fishing.

Make sense?

Every other fisherman gets his prawns frozen from the petrol station, but not FD. FD, you see, has "principles". These include defending the industrial practice of ripping out the eyes of prawns by pretending that they don't feel pain. And FD would know - he regularly uses prawns as live bait.

Prawns, you see, are the new pawns in the FD culture wars. For FD, prawns are the Muslims of the sea.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:03am

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:46am

Neferti wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:11am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 2:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)


I know about live bait (little fishes or worms). We're discussing live prawns.

All of the blokes I know buy them frozen from the petrol station.



And?



Do they cast or drag bait nets where it is easy to catch live prawns along with sardines and poddy mullet.


What is with the fixation, it isn't that important of a subject, what is your little pea sized brain struggling with?


The fact that prawn schools only come out at night, and you need a light to attract them with.

Now enough's enough. I'm willing to bet no one uses live prawns as bait. Which of you bottom-feeders wants to take me on?

Don't answer too quickly, Big Hole.



Nice made up fact.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Try to not mix up trawling for prawns out in the big ocean and dragging a bait net along a beach to get bait.


Jeezus fkk this got stupid fast.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:20am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:11am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 2:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)


I know about live bait (little fishes or worms). We're discussing live prawns.

All of the blokes I know buy them frozen from the petrol station.



And?



Do they cast or drag bait nets where it is easy to catch live prawns along with sardines and poddy mullet.


What is with the fixation, it isn't that important of a subject, what is your little pea sized brain struggling with?


The fact that prawn schools only come out at night, and you need a light to attract them with.

Now enough's enough. I'm willing to bet no one uses live prawns as bait. Which of you bottom-feeders wants to take me on?

Don't answer too quickly, Big Hole.



Nice made up fact.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Try to not mix up trawling for prawns out in the big ocean and dragging a bait net along a beach to get bait.


Jeezus fkk this got stupid fast.


How many prawns have you caught on a beach in the harsh light of day, Hole?

And we don't want to hear your gay pick-up stories, okay?

FD says he caught one. You?

Money down, son.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:12pm

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
What lie, genius?




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.


Just because you can't do it, does not mean it's not possible John.


I asked you how, and you eventually replied that you can't. I've never seen it done during the day and am trying to get an honest answer out of you. Have you, or haven't you targeted and caught prawns during the day? If so, how?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:31pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:12pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
What lie, genius?




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.


Just because you can't do it, does not mean it's not possible John.


I asked you how, and you eventually replied that you can't. I've never seen it done during the day and am trying to get an honest answer out of you. Have you, or haven't you targeted and caught prawns during the day? If so, how?



What do you perceive is the problem with casting or dragging a bait net during the day?


Juvenile prawns live in the estuaries and inshore and are a quite easily caught using these methods

I can't understand why, one you and karnal are making such a big deal of it and second why you can''t get your head around catching live bait such as prawns.


Is it a southern thing, this level of ignorance?


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:37pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:20am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:11am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 2:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)


I know about live bait (little fishes or worms). We're discussing live prawns.

All of the blokes I know buy them frozen from the petrol station.



And?



Do they cast or drag bait nets where it is easy to catch live prawns along with sardines and poddy mullet.


What is with the fixation, it isn't that important of a subject, what is your little pea sized brain struggling with?


The fact that prawn schools only come out at night, and you need a light to attract them with.

Now enough's enough. I'm willing to bet no one uses live prawns as bait. Which of you bottom-feeders wants to take me on?

Don't answer too quickly, Big Hole.



Nice made up fact.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Try to not mix up trawling for prawns out in the big ocean and dragging a bait net along a beach to get bait.


Jeezus fkk this got stupid fast.


How many prawns have you caught on a beach in the harsh light of day, Hole?

And we don't want to hear your gay pick-up stories, okay?

FD says he caught one. You?

Money down, son.



I don't understand what it is with daylight with you two by you own admittance you know fkk all about fishing and yet you are certain you cannot catch prawn during the day using cast or drag nets.


During my younger years I would have caught many kilos of prawns using these methods.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:37pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:31pm:
Juvenile prawns live in the estuaries and inshore and are a quite easily caught using these methods


I have always made them come to me, usually with the aid of a light to attract them to the area you are working. Even when using a drag net. I've never seen it done during the day and I know and have fished with many prawners.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:52pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:12pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:53pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
What lie, genius?




freediver wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 10:26pm:
I've caught prawns during the day before and used them live as bait.


Just because you can't do it, does not mean it's not possible John.


I asked you how, and you eventually replied that you can't. I've never seen it done during the day and am trying to get an honest answer out of you. Have you, or haven't you targeted and caught prawns during the day? If so, how?


Of course I have, prawn whisperer. I said so, didn't I? You are confused John. I said that you can't catch prawns during the day. You said pretty much the same thing. Yet for some reason you leapt to the conclusion I was lying about something.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:55pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:31pm:
Juvenile prawns live in the estuaries and inshore and are a quite easily caught using these methods


I have always made them come to me, usually with the aid of a light to attract them to the area you are working. Even when using a drag net. I've never seen it done during the day and I know and have fished with many prawners.



Well I have never seen it done your way, but I can accept that that is how it is done down south.


It isn't that big of a deal, different fishing styles or in this case bait collection for different parts of Australia.





Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:56pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Of course I have. I said so, didn't I? You are confused John. I said that you can't catch prawns during the day. You said pretty much the same. Yet for some reason you leapt to the conclusion I was lying about something.



I didn't realise that when you said 'you' you were referring to me specifically. It sounded like you were using it in it's plural form. My mistake.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:57pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:55pm:
It isn't that big of a deal, different fishing styles or in this case bait collection for different parts of Australia.


that's why I was asking. But FD is more interested in his word games.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm

Quote:
that's why I was asking


It sounded like you were accusing me of lying.

Do prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:06pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:

Quote:
that's why I was asking



Do prawns feel pain?



Ask them.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:29pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:06pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:

Quote:
that's why I was asking



Do prawns feel pain?



Ask them.


And John makes another seamless transition from confusion to evasion.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:03pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:

Quote:
that's why I was asking


It sounded like you were accusing me of lying.

Do prawns feel pain?



FD i will make you a deal.

I will answer your question about whether or not prawns feel pain if you answer my question.

Deal?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:46pm
lets forget about prawns for just a minute- all animals feel pain does- that stop anyone from inflcting the pain if the flesh of said ainmal is so very tasty and the market demands that it supply meat to consumers - the answer is no- I would say yes that they do feel pain but well it is what it is- nothing will stop the practice so get over it- I wll continue to eat and prawns regardless- and same for fish

Now you are a vegetarian Mothra ( myself only partly)- and it is a well established fact that plants feel pain- now I ask you if you will you stop eating vegetables and fruit because  you are eating living beings that feel PAIN-

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lisa Jones on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:50pm

Agnes wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:46am:

Neferti wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?


;D ;D ;D ;D


Hahahaha

;D x 100000000

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:54pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:50pm:

Agnes wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:46am:

Neferti wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?


;D ;D ;D ;D


Hahahaha

;D x 100000000

so funny Lisa  ;D x  200000

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:54pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 12:37pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:20am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:11am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 2:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)


I know about live bait (little fishes or worms). We're discussing live prawns.

All of the blokes I know buy them frozen from the petrol station.



And?



Do they cast or drag bait nets where it is easy to catch live prawns along with sardines and poddy mullet.


What is with the fixation, it isn't that important of a subject, what is your little pea sized brain struggling with?


The fact that prawn schools only come out at night, and you need a light to attract them with.

Now enough's enough. I'm willing to bet no one uses live prawns as bait. Which of you bottom-feeders wants to take me on?

Don't answer too quickly, Big Hole.



Nice made up fact.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Try to not mix up trawling for prawns out in the big ocean and dragging a bait net along a beach to get bait.


Jeezus fkk this got stupid fast.


How many prawns have you caught on a beach in the harsh light of day, Hole?

And we don't want to hear your gay pick-up stories, okay?

FD says he caught one. You?

Money down, son.



I don't understand what it is with daylight with you two by you own admittance you know fkk all about fishing and yet you are certain you cannot catch prawn during the day using cast or drag nets.


During my younger years I would have caught many kilos of prawns using these methods.


Would have, eh?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:54pm

Agnes wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
lets forget about prawns for just a minute- all animals feel pain does- that stop anyone from inflcting the pain if the flesh of said ainmal is so very tasty and the market demands that it supply meat to consumers - the answer is no- I would say yes that they do feel pain but well it is what it is- nothing will stop the practice so get over it- I wll continue to eat and prawns regardless- and same for fish

Now you are a vegetarian Mothra ( myself only partly)- and it is a well established fact that plants feel pain- now I ask you if you will you stop eating vegetables and fruit because  you are eating living beings that feel PAIN-


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:55pm
PAIN MOTHRA PAIN

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:56pm

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:

Quote:
that's why I was asking


It sounded like you were accusing me of lying.

Do prawns feel pain?



FD i will make you a deal.

I will answer your question about whether or not prawns feel pain if you answer my question.

Deal?


Oh look, he's gone.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:58pm

Agnes wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Agnes wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:46pm:
lets forget about prawns for just a minute- all animals feel pain does- that stop anyone from inflcting the pain if the flesh of said ainmal is so very tasty and the market demands that it supply meat to consumers - the answer is no- I would say yes that they do feel pain but well it is what it is- nothing will stop the practice so get over it- I wll continue to eat and prawns regardless- and same for fish

Now you are a vegetarian Mothra ( myself only partly)- and it is a well established fact that plants feel pain- now I ask you if you will you stop eating vegetables and fruit because  you are eating living beings that feel PAIN-


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lisa Jones on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:00pm

Agnes wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:50pm:

Agnes wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 3:46am:

Neferti wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?


;D ;D ;D ;D


Hahahaha

;D x 100000000

so funny Lisa  ;D x  200000


Guess what....

I think I've just found my new avatar tag line  :P

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:07pm
well I say do it  :D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lisa Jones on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:13pm

Agnes wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:07pm:
well I say do it  :D


Sorry....I was over at PA starting a new ummmm topic  ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:31pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:13pm:

Agnes wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 6:07pm:
well I say do it  :D


Sorry....I was over at PA starting a new ummmm topic  ;D ;D ;D

I do love your new tag- hilarious

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:28pm

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:

Quote:
that's why I was asking


It sounded like you were accusing me of lying.

Do prawns feel pain?



FD i will make you a deal.

I will answer your question about whether or not prawns feel pain if you answer my question.

Deal?


Wow, only 15 pages into your own thread and you are almost prepared to offer your opinion on whether prawns feel pain. Is this you being generous Mothra?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Lisa Jones on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:30pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:

Quote:
that's why I was asking


It sounded like you were accusing me of lying.

Do prawns feel pain?



FD i will make you a deal.

I will answer your question about whether or not prawns feel pain if you answer my question.

Deal?


Wow, only 15 pages into your own thread and you are almost prepared to offer your opinion on whether prawns feel pain. Is this you being generous Mothra?


Dear God.....and to think I've only JUST changed my tag line.  ::)


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:30pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:

Quote:
that's why I was asking


It sounded like you were accusing me of lying.

Do prawns feel pain?



FD i will make you a deal.

I will answer your question about whether or not prawns feel pain if you answer my question.

Deal?


Wow, only 15 pages into your own thread and you are almost prepared to offer your opinion on whether prawns feel pain. Is this you being generous Mothra?


Yes. More than you deserve.

Do you agree to the deal?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:33pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:06pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 1:00pm:

Quote:
that's why I was asking



Do prawns feel pain?



Ask them.


And John makes another seamless transition from confusion to evasion.


There is something wrong with you, you know that? I'm not evading anything. I don't speak prawn so you'll need to ask the prawns. I have no idea if they feel pain or not. As far as I can tell, none of the prawns I ate ever objected.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm
Too bad Mothra. John beat you to it. 16 pages in, and we have our first answer to the question.

Do you still think I was lying John?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:43pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Too bad Mothra. John beat you to it. 16 pages in, and we have our first answer to the question.

Do you still think I was lying John?



I'm not even a little bit surprised that that is good enough for you.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:44pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Too bad Mothra. John beat you to it. 16 pages in, and we have our first answer to the question.

Do you still think I was lying John?


Hasn't he already conceded he read the word 'you' (just like I did) as being non person specific?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:47pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Too bad Mothra. John beat you to it. 16 pages in, and we have our first answer to the question.

Do you still think I was lying John?


I've dealt with that FD. Perhaps you need to go back and re read the previous answer.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:47pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Too bad Mothra. John beat you to it. 16 pages in, and we have our first answer to the question.

Do you still think I was lying John?


Hasn't he already conceded he read the word 'you' (just like I did) as being non person specific?


this is where he'll ask the same question another dozen times  :D :D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:48pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:47pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Too bad Mothra. John beat you to it. 16 pages in, and we have our first answer to the question.

Do you still think I was lying John?


Hasn't he already conceded he read the word 'you' (just like I did) as being non person specific?


this is where he'll ask the same question another dozen times  :D :D


Yes. That will cover up the fact that i promised him an answer to his question if only he would answer one nicely.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:49pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
John beat you to it

I was speaking for myself. If Mothra knows anything else you'll have to stop using me as your get out of jail free card and ask her yourself

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:50pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
John beat you to it

I was speaking for myself. If Mothra knows anything else you'll have to stop using me as your get out of jail free card and ask her yourself



Oh i do know something else, John.

Tell me, do think FD is really curious? Or do you think he just pretends?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by John Smith on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:54pm

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
John beat you to it

I was speaking for myself. If Mothra knows anything else you'll have to stop using me as your get out of jail free card and ask her yourself



Oh i do know something else, John.

Tell me, do think FD is really curious? Or do you think he just pretends?


FD is doing what FD does best, playing games while avoiding having to provide answers

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:57pm

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:54pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:49pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
John beat you to it

I was speaking for myself. If Mothra knows anything else you'll have to stop using me as your get out of jail free card and ask her yourself



Oh i do know something else, John.

Tell me, do think FD is really curious? Or do you think he just pretends?


FD is doing what FD does best, playing games while avoiding having to provide answers


I've told him he's no fun. Some kids just don't play well with others.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Valkie on Sep 11th, 2017 at 8:30pm
I wonder if the little girls genitally mutilated by sick muzzos feel pain?

Muzzos obviously dont think so
Neither do the SYCHOPHANT, sympathiser, apologists.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gordon on Sep 11th, 2017 at 8:34pm
Can I buy a bag of prawn these sliced off prawn eyes?

They sound yummo.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:20pm

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:43pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Too bad Mothra. John beat you to it. 16 pages in, and we have our first answer to the question.

Do you still think I was lying John?



I'm not even a little bit surprised that that is good enough for you.


What is good enough? A straight answer? If you don't know Mothra, you are allowed to say.

Do prawns feel pain?


Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:44pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Too bad Mothra. John beat you to it. 16 pages in, and we have our first answer to the question.

Do you still think I was lying John?


Hasn't he already conceded he read the word 'you' (just like I did) as being non person specific?


Not sure Aussie. Do you still think I was lying?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 9:44pm
I'll happily answer your question, FD. I do in fact know the answer.

Do you want to know the answer enough to answer a question of mine?

I've already asked you twice on this thread so it's nothing you haven't seen before.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:08pm
I can not promise your question won't be too stupid to bother with Mothra.

If you knew the answer, why did you spend 20 pages avoiding the question, and why are you now putting conditions on answering it? You started this thread, apparently out of concern for the prawns, but you are sacrificing them to some question you are afraid to ask me.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:13pm
I'm sacrificing them?

As for stupid questions, i happen to think "Do prawns feel pain" is a particularly stupid one.

I would simply like to know why you think they might not? Why a living being would be born without the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism?

I also happen think they, irrespective of whether or not they feel pain,  would probably quite like eyes.

Furthermore, i think the fact that they are kept in environments that are so stressful to them that they won't reproduce without this awful thing being done to them is animal cruelty of titanic proportions. I happen to care about that.

Are you prepared to answer, FD?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:20pm

Quote:
As for stupid questions, i happen to think "Do prawns feel pain" is a particularly stupid one.


So why is it that John is the only one in this thread to have provided and answer, and his answer was that he does not know? Are you saying it is an easy question, or an irrelevant one?


Quote:
Why a living being would be born without the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism?


Pain is not a rudimentary self protection mechanism. It is reactionary, complex and slow. But I'm glad that after 20 pages you are finally paying attention.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:22pm
No FD. Pain is a rudimentary self-defence mechanism.

Why on earth do you think prawns wouldn't feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:25pm
Is pain "the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism"?

Do prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:26pm
Why would you think they wouldn't?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:28pm
Oh well. John is the only one willing to give a straight answer.

"I don't know."

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:31pm
I'm more than prepared to give a straight answer FD. Happy to oblige.

As soon as you tell me why you think prawns wouldn't feel pain.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:33pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Oh well. John is the only one willing to give a straight answer.

"I don't know."


Doesn't my 'Dunno' count?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:34pm
No problem. I'll answer that right after you explain why you think it's OK to beat children.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:36pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:34pm:
No problem. I'll answer that right after you explain why you think it's OK to beat children.



Is that honestly the kind of tactic you evidence as example of how to behave on your forum FD?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:36pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Oh well. John is the only one willing to give a straight answer.

"I don't know."


Doesn't my 'Dunno' count?


Sure Aussie, if that is your answer. Sorry if I didn't notice you beating Mothra and John to it. So that is two people with a straight answer and Mothra still bargaining away like her opinion has some special value.

"I don't know."


Quote:
Is that honestly the kind of tactic you evidence as example of how to behave on your forum FD?


Can you answer the question without demanding I first explain why I think what you tell me I think Mothra? I told you your question would be too stupid to bother with. You have every right to criticise me for bothering to respond.

Do prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:38pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Oh well. John is the only one willing to give a straight answer.

"I don't know."


Doesn't my 'Dunno' count?


Sure Aussie, if that is your answer. Sorry if I didn't notice you beating Mothra and John to it. So that is two people with a straight answer and Mothra still bargaining away like her opinion has some special value.

"I don't know."


No FD. Focus.

The question you want me to answer is not resolved with opinion, rather fact. Fact you could easily find out for yourself with a bit of a google but that wouldn't be part of the game, would it.

The question i want you to answer is very much about opinion though.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:39pm
Why do you think prawns wouldn't feel pain, FD?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Mistress Nicole on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:43pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
I've signed it.

The human species disgusts me for the most part.

Where is the leadership from our politicians to ban these cruel practices, but instead we have to go begging and signing petitions.

Utterly pathetic.


X2

Keep fighting the good fight Mothra.  :)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:43pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:43pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
I've signed it.

The human species disgusts me for the most part.

Where is the leadership from our politicians to ban these cruel practices, but instead we have to go begging and signing petitions.

Utterly pathetic.


X2

Keep fighting the good fight Mothra.  :)


Many blessings Nicole ... :)

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:45pm
I'm sure the prawns really like the way you refuse to even say whether they feel pain.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:46pm

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
I'm sure the prawns really like the way you refuse to even say whether they feel pain.



Happy to say, FD. What's more, i've outlined a couple of other reasons why this practice should be banned.

Why would you think prawns wouldn't feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:48pm

mothra wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:46pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
I'm sure the prawns really like the way you refuse to even say whether they feel pain.



Happy to say, FD. What's more, i've outlined a couple of other reasons why this practice should be banned.

Why would you think prawns wouldn't feel pain?

  fruit and vegetables feel pain- it is scientifically  proven they feel pain- hypocrite much Moth Balls since you eat them every day- what say ye ?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:49pm
I say i'm not rising to your bait, Agnes. Sorry.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 1:58am

Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Oh well. John is the only one willing to give a straight answer.

"I don't know."


Doesn't my 'Dunno' count?


My yes doesn't count, so I can't see why your Dunno would.

I must say, it's a relief to see someone else trying to get an answer out of FD.

Ask him if he upholds the use of porkies in his campaign against the prawns, Mothra.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:03am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 1:58am:

Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Oh well. John is the only one willing to give a straight answer.

"I don't know."


Doesn't my 'Dunno' count?


My yes doesn't count, so I can't see why your Dunno would.

I must say, it's a relief to see someone else trying to get an answer out of FD.

Ask him if he upholds the use of porkies in his campaign against the prawns, Mothra.



Are we talking about a mindless collective of  plant material, decaying organic matter, micro-organisms, small shellfish and worms, Karnal?

If so, i imagine the prawns have it coming.

Do prawns marry their cousins?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:10am

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 1:58am:

Aussie wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:33pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
Oh well. John is the only one willing to give a straight answer.

"I don't know."


Doesn't my 'Dunno' count?


My yes doesn't count, so I can't see why your Dunno would.

I must say, it's a relief to see someone else trying to get an answer out of FD.

Ask him if he upholds the use of porkies in his campaign against the prawns, Mothra.



Are we talking about a mindless collective of  plant material, decaying organic matter, micro-organisms, small shellfish and worms, Karnal?

If so, i imagine the prawns have it coming.

Do prawns marry their cousins?


I can't see why not, Mother. They certainly let FD scoop their children out of the water to use as live bait.

Well, they don't and he didn't, but there's no harm in telling a few porkies in one's criticism of Prawnslam, shurely.

Ask FD if he does the same with the Muselman.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:13am
When are the incestuous progeny of prawns scooped up though? That's what i'd like to know,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2Xq8fCNI8

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:35am

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:13am:
When are the incestuous progeny of prawns scooped up though? That's what i'd like to know,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2Xq8fCNI8


It's hard to say. FD would tell us, but he wants to deal with the Muslim problem before he moves onto carbon taxes and sustainable fishing policies.

Now be patient. One thing at a time, Mother.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:47am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:35am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:13am:
When are the incestuous progeny of prawns scooped up though? That's what i'd like to know,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2Xq8fCNI8


It's hard to say. FD would tell us, but he wants to deal with the Muslim problem before he moves onto carbon taxes and sustainable fishing policies.

Now be patient. One thing at a time, Mother.


Well i can see why he's so uppity about prawns then. It's little wonder.

I suppose once we've established whether or not prawns feel pain, we'll know better how to deal with the Muslims.

Do Muslims feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:12am

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:47am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:35am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:13am:
When are the incestuous progeny of prawns scooped up though? That's what i'd like to know,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2Xq8fCNI8


It's hard to say. FD would tell us, but he wants to deal with the Muslim problem before he moves onto carbon taxes and sustainable fishing policies.

Now be patient. One thing at a time, Mother.


Well i can see why he's so uppity about prawns then. It's little wonder.

I suppose once we've established whether or not prawns feel pain, we'll know better how to deal with the Muslims.

Do Muslims feel pain?


Now now, Mothra, what a ridiculous question. You couldn't possibly expect FD to answer something as silly as that.

They're an inferior subspecies. Of course they don't.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:23am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:12am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:47am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:35am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:13am:
When are the incestuous progeny of prawns scooped up though? That's what i'd like to know,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2Xq8fCNI8


It's hard to say. FD would tell us, but he wants to deal with the Muslim problem before he moves onto carbon taxes and sustainable fishing policies.

Now be patient. One thing at a time, Mother.


Well i can see why he's so uppity about prawns then. It's little wonder.

I suppose once we've established whether or not prawns feel pain, we'll know better how to deal with the Muslims.

Do Muslims feel pain?


Now now, Mothra, what a ridiculous question. You couldn't possibly expect FD to answer something as silly as that.

They're an inferior subspecies. Of course they don't.


Well i suppose they only have sex with goats because they've been conditioned to then. They're obviously not getting anything out it. Monkey see, monkey do.

That's why they all make their women wear burkas. Because the women are so hideous and hairy they look like goats and they can't be scooped up if they're properly covered.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:26am

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:23am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:12am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:47am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:35am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 2:13am:
When are the incestuous progeny of prawns scooped up though? That's what i'd like to know,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln2Xq8fCNI8


It's hard to say. FD would tell us, but he wants to deal with the Muslim problem before he moves onto carbon taxes and sustainable fishing policies.

Now be patient. One thing at a time, Mother.


Well i can see why he's so uppity about prawns then. It's little wonder.

I suppose once we've established whether or not prawns feel pain, we'll know better how to deal with the Muslims.

Do Muslims feel pain?


Now now, Mothra, what a ridiculous question. You couldn't possibly expect FD to answer something as silly as that.

They're an inferior subspecies. Of course they don't.


Well i suppose they only have sex with goats because they've been conditioned to then. They're obviously not getting anything out it. Monkey see, monkey do.

That's why they all make their women wear burkas. Because the women are so hideous and hairy they look like goats and they can't be scooped up if they're properly covered.


That's better. Say more stuff like that, Mother. FD will answer you for sure.


freediver wrote on Sep 11th, 2017 at 10:34pm:
No problem. I'll answer that right after you explain why you think it's OK to beat children.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:33am
I'm very confused though. Was the goat meat Hammer received wearing a burka? Did the goat feel pain before it became simply meat?

More importantly, did Hammer feel pain upon being presented with the goat meat while it wasn't wearing a burka?

Are goats Muslim?

So many questions ... and FD won't answer any of them. So unfair.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:06am

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:33am:
I'm very confused though. Was the goat meat Hammer received wearing a burka? Did the goat feel pain before it became simply meat?

More importantly, did Hammer feel pain upon being presented with the goat meat while it wasn't wearing a burka?

Are goats Muslim?

So many questions ... and FD won't answer any of them. So unfair.


All good questions, Mother, but don't you worry. As soon as we've dealt with the Muslims, their evasive apologists, the tinted races and the Arab/Negroid sub-humans who worship a moon god and squat down to pee (a plausible theory), FD will have time for questions.

Until then, no more questions at this time, thanks.

Do prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:23am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:06am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:33am:
I'm very confused though. Was the goat meat Hammer received wearing a burka? Did the goat feel pain before it became simply meat?

More importantly, did Hammer feel pain upon being presented with the goat meat while it wasn't wearing a burka?

Are goats Muslim?

So many questions ... and FD won't answer any of them. So unfair.


All good questions, Mother, but don't you worry. As soon as we've dealt with the Muslims, their evasive apologists, the tinted races and the Arab/Negroid sub-humans who worship a moon god and squat down to pee (a plausible theory), FD will have time for questions.

Until then, no more questions at this time, thanks.

Do prawns feel pain?


Ooooh i know whether prawns feel pain or not. I'm kinda fancy that way.

Science and stuff and everything.

But as they're the Muslims of the sea, we need to establish whether or not it matters if they feel pain or not. And if pain and the feeling of it has been established in the Hadiths.

I mean prawns. Probably paedophiles. They are certainly blase about their incestuous children being scooped up.

Was that during the daytime or nighttime though? Does a prawn need a burka after dark?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:32am

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:23am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:06am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:33am:
I'm very confused though. Was the goat meat Hammer received wearing a burka? Did the goat feel pain before it became simply meat?

More importantly, did Hammer feel pain upon being presented with the goat meat while it wasn't wearing a burka?

Are goats Muslim?

So many questions ... and FD won't answer any of them. So unfair.


All good questions, Mother, but don't you worry. As soon as we've dealt with the Muslims, their evasive apologists, the tinted races and the Arab/Negroid sub-humans who worship a moon god and squat down to pee (a plausible theory), FD will have time for questions.

Until then, no more questions at this time, thanks.

Do prawns feel pain?


Ooooh i know whether prawns feel pain or not. I'm kinda fancy that way.

Science and stuff and everything.

But as they're the Muslims of the sea, we need to establish whether or not it matters if they feel pain or not. And if pain and the feeling of it has been established in the Hadiths.

I mean prawns. Probably paedophiles. They are certainly blase about their incestuous children being scooped up.

Was that during the daytime or nighttime though? Does a prawn need a burka after dark?


FD has always been into sustainable fishing, Mothra. What could be more sustainable than ripping out their eyes so they can breed more?

FD, of course, is also an advocate of sustainable human population. By this, he means keeping out the tinted races by asking them tricky questions at the airport.

Freeeeeedom, innit.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:24am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:32am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:23am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:06am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:33am:
I'm very confused though. Was the goat meat Hammer received wearing a burka? Did the goat feel pain before it became simply meat?

More importantly, did Hammer feel pain upon being presented with the goat meat while it wasn't wearing a burka?

Are goats Muslim?

So many questions ... and FD won't answer any of them. So unfair.


All good questions, Mother, but don't you worry. As soon as we've dealt with the Muslims, their evasive apologists, the tinted races and the Arab/Negroid sub-humans who worship a moon god and squat down to pee (a plausible theory), FD will have time for questions.

Until then, no more questions at this time, thanks.

Do prawns feel pain?


Ooooh i know whether prawns feel pain or not. I'm kinda fancy that way.

Science and stuff and everything.

But as they're the Muslims of the sea, we need to establish whether or not it matters if they feel pain or not. And if pain and the feeling of it has been established in the Hadiths.

I mean prawns. Probably paedophiles. They are certainly blase about their incestuous children being scooped up.

Was that during the daytime or nighttime though? Does a prawn need a burka after dark?


FD has always been into sustainable fishing, Mothra. What could be more sustainable than ripping out their eyes so they can breed more?

FD, of course, is also an advocate of sustainable human population. By this, he means keeping out the tinted races by asking them tricky questions at the airport.

Freeeeeedom, innit.


I suppose as long as the prawns and the tinted races don't feel any pain, we're good to go.

Did i sound more butch saying that out loud?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:33am

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:24am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:32am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:23am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:06am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:33am:
I'm very confused though. Was the goat meat Hammer received wearing a burka? Did the goat feel pain before it became simply meat?

More importantly, did Hammer feel pain upon being presented with the goat meat while it wasn't wearing a burka?

Are goats Muslim?

So many questions ... and FD won't answer any of them. So unfair.


All good questions, Mother, but don't you worry. As soon as we've dealt with the Muslims, their evasive apologists, the tinted races and the Arab/Negroid sub-humans who worship a moon god and squat down to pee (a plausible theory), FD will have time for questions.

Until then, no more questions at this time, thanks.

Do prawns feel pain?


Ooooh i know whether prawns feel pain or not. I'm kinda fancy that way.

Science and stuff and everything.

But as they're the Muslims of the sea, we need to establish whether or not it matters if they feel pain or not. And if pain and the feeling of it has been established in the Hadiths.

I mean prawns. Probably paedophiles. They are certainly blase about their incestuous children being scooped up.

Was that during the daytime or nighttime though? Does a prawn need a burka after dark?


FD has always been into sustainable fishing, Mothra. What could be more sustainable than ripping out their eyes so they can breed more?

FD, of course, is also an advocate of sustainable human population. By this, he means keeping out the tinted races by asking them tricky questions at the airport.

Freeeeeedom, innit.


I suppose as long as the prawns and the tinted races don't feel any pain, we're good to go.

Did i sound more butch saying that out loud?


Well yes, you did a bit.

If you could learn to speak a bit more like Pauline, maybe FD would answer you more.

Have you ever thought of voice coaching?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:42am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:33am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:24am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:32am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:23am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:06am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:33am:
I'm very confused though. Was the goat meat Hammer received wearing a burka? Did the goat feel pain before it became simply meat?

More importantly, did Hammer feel pain upon being presented with the goat meat while it wasn't wearing a burka?

Are goats Muslim?

So many questions ... and FD won't answer any of them. So unfair.


All good questions, Mother, but don't you worry. As soon as we've dealt with the Muslims, their evasive apologists, the tinted races and the Arab/Negroid sub-humans who worship a moon god and squat down to pee (a plausible theory), FD will have time for questions.

Until then, no more questions at this time, thanks.

Do prawns feel pain?


Ooooh i know whether prawns feel pain or not. I'm kinda fancy that way.

Science and stuff and everything.

But as they're the Muslims of the sea, we need to establish whether or not it matters if they feel pain or not. And if pain and the feeling of it has been established in the Hadiths.

I mean prawns. Probably paedophiles. They are certainly blase about their incestuous children being scooped up.

Was that during the daytime or nighttime though? Does a prawn need a burka after dark?


FD has always been into sustainable fishing, Mothra. What could be more sustainable than ripping out their eyes so they can breed more?

FD, of course, is also an advocate of sustainable human population. By this, he means keeping out the tinted races by asking them tricky questions at the airport.

Freeeeeedom, innit.


I suppose as long as the prawns and the tinted races don't feel any pain, we're good to go.

Did i sound more butch saying that out loud?


Well yes, you did a bit.

If you could learn to speak a bit more like Pauline, maybe FD would answer you more.

Have you ever thought of voice coaching?



I've not gone down the path of voice coaching but i have had singing lessons.

I think they would only appeal to Gordy though, All about Nebuchadnezzar and his penchant for shoes.

Do you think Nebuchadnezzar was respectful of prawns?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:15am

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:42am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:33am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:24am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:32am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:23am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 4:06am:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 3:33am:
I'm very confused though. Was the goat meat Hammer received wearing a burka? Did the goat feel pain before it became simply meat?

More importantly, did Hammer feel pain upon being presented with the goat meat while it wasn't wearing a burka?

Are goats Muslim?

So many questions ... and FD won't answer any of them. So unfair.


All good questions, Mother, but don't you worry. As soon as we've dealt with the Muslims, their evasive apologists, the tinted races and the Arab/Negroid sub-humans who worship a moon god and squat down to pee (a plausible theory), FD will have time for questions.

Until then, no more questions at this time, thanks.

Do prawns feel pain?


Ooooh i know whether prawns feel pain or not. I'm kinda fancy that way.

Science and stuff and everything.

But as they're the Muslims of the sea, we need to establish whether or not it matters if they feel pain or not. And if pain and the feeling of it has been established in the Hadiths.

I mean prawns. Probably paedophiles. They are certainly blase about their incestuous children being scooped up.

Was that during the daytime or nighttime though? Does a prawn need a burka after dark?


FD has always been into sustainable fishing, Mothra. What could be more sustainable than ripping out their eyes so they can breed more?

FD, of course, is also an advocate of sustainable human population. By this, he means keeping out the tinted races by asking them tricky questions at the airport.

Freeeeeedom, innit.


I suppose as long as the prawns and the tinted races don't feel any pain, we're good to go.

Did i sound more butch saying that out loud?


Well yes, you did a bit.

If you could learn to speak a bit more like Pauline, maybe FD would answer you more.

Have you ever thought of voice coaching?



I've not gone down the path of voice coaching but i have had singing lessons.

I think they would only appeal to Gordy though, All about Nebuchadnezzar and his penchant for shoes.

Do you think Nebuchadnezzar was respectful of prawns?


I'm not sure, Mother. I don't think Canadian Yids are supposed to eat prawns though.

And reading your article, I've got a good mind to join them.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:29am
You don't actually care whether prawns feel pain do you Mothra? You keep telling me to google it and insisting the answer is out there, but you haven't looked for yourself, have you?

What makes you think pain is "the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism"? Is this just something else you blurted out without thinking?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:32am

freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:29am:
You don't actually care whether prawns feel pain do you Mothra? You keep telling me to google it and insisting the answer is out there, but you haven't looked for yourself, have you?

What makes you think pain is "the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism"? Is this just something else you blurted out without thinking?

 

Keep telling you? Insisting on answers?

No FD. I've not done any of that.

Why would you think prawns wouldn't feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by aquascoot on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:58am
ID mothra may be suffering a mental disorder


Vegetarian diet and mental disorders: results from a representative community survey
Johannes Michalak,corresponding author1 Xiao Chi Zhang,2 and Frank Jacobi3,4
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Abstract
Background

The present study investigated associations between vegetarian diet and mental disorders.

Methods

Participants were drawn from the representative sample of the German Health Interview and Examination Survey and its Mental Health Supplement (GHS-MHS). Completely vegetarian (N = 54) and predominantly vegetarian (N = 190) participants were compared with non-vegetarian participants (N = 3872) and with a non-vegetarian socio-demographically matched subsample (N = 242).

Results

Vegetarians displayed elevated prevalence rates for depressive disorders, anxiety disorders and somatoform disorders. Due to the matching procedure, the findings cannot be explained by socio-demographic characteristics of vegetarians (e.g. higher rates of females, predominant residency in urban areas, high proportion of singles). The analysis of the respective ages at adoption of a vegetarian diet and onset of a mental disorder showed that the adoption of the vegetarian diet tends to follow the onset of mental disorders.

Conclusions

In Western cultures vegetarian diet is associated with an elevated risk of mental disorders.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 8:01am
Oh good. Horse Boy has weighed in. We're all set now boys and girls.

Hands up who thinks i'm anaemic?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:28am

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 8:01am:
Oh good. Horse Boy has weighed neighed in. We're all set now boys and girls.

Hands up who thinks i'm anaemic?


*Fixed*

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:32am

freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:29am:
You don't actually care whether prawns feel pain do you Mothra? You keep telling me to google it and insisting the answer is out there, but you haven't looked for yourself, have you?

What makes you think pain is "the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism"? Is this just something else you blurted out without thinking?


Do prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by mothra on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:51am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:32am:

freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:29am:
You don't actually care whether prawns feel pain do you Mothra? You keep telling me to google it and insisting the answer is out there, but you haven't looked for yourself, have you?

What makes you think pain is "the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism"? Is this just something else you blurted out without thinking?


Do prawns feel pain?


Does that depend on whether or not i sanction them being beaten or not?

Or whether they are Muslim?

I have these questions.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Valkie on Sep 12th, 2017 at 5:22pm

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:51am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:32am:

freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:29am:
You don't actually care whether prawns feel pain do you Mothra? You keep telling me to google it and insisting the answer is out there, but you haven't looked for yourself, have you?

What makes you think pain is "the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism"? Is this just something else you blurted out without thinking?


Do prawns feel pain?


Does that depend on whether or not i sanction them being beaten or not?

Or whether they are Muslim?

I have these questions.


Torture of any animal, insect, fish, or even muzzo simply demonstrates the basest of human depravity.

If you eat fish, kill it quickly with the least pain possible.
If you eat animal, be sure its killed quickly, with as little pain as possible
If you have to kill insects or anything in self defence, make it quick and painless for the poor creature.
I capture spiders and free them, rather than killing them.
I capture mice with a trap that does not harm them, and either kill them quickly or release the native ones into the bush where they belong.

Muzzos thrive on torture, they are the basest of all animals.
Female genital mutilation.
Rape
Wife beating
Halal torture of animals rather than a quick painless death.
Lopping off arms and feet
Stoning people to death

This is a sick CULT....based on death, torture and sick practices.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:08pm

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:51am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:32am:

freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:29am:
You don't actually care whether prawns feel pain do you Mothra? You keep telling me to google it and insisting the answer is out there, but you haven't looked for yourself, have you?

What makes you think pain is "the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism"? Is this just something else you blurted out without thinking?


Do prawns feel pain?


Does that depend on whether or not i sanction them being beaten or not?

Or whether they are Muslim?

I have these questions.


They're reasonable questions, Mothra. But until we sort out the Musel problem, FD just doesn't have time to get around to them all. Now first things first.

Do prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm

Valkie wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 5:22pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:51am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:32am:

freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:29am:
You don't actually care whether prawns feel pain do you Mothra? You keep telling me to google it and insisting the answer is out there, but you haven't looked for yourself, have you?

What makes you think pain is "the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism"? Is this just something else you blurted out without thinking?


Do prawns feel pain?


Does that depend on whether or not i sanction them being beaten or not?

Or whether they are Muslim?

I have these questions.


Torture of any animal, insect, fish, or even muzzo simply demonstrates the basest of human depravity.

If you eat fish, kill it quickly with the least pain possible.
If you eat animal, be sure its killed quickly, with as little pain as possible
If you have to kill insects or anything in self defence, make it quick and painless for the poor creature.
I capture spiders and free them, rather than killing them.
I capture mice with a trap that does not harm them, and either kill them quickly or release the native ones into the bush where they belong.

Muzzos thrive on torture, they are the basest of all animals.
Female genital mutilation.
Rape
Wife beating
Halal torture of animals rather than a quick painless death.
Lopping off arms and feet
Stoning people to death

This is a sick CULT....based on death, torture and sick practices.


Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:27pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm:
Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?



You truly have no understanding about fishing do you?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Spend less time with your sodomy fixation and pick up fkken fishing rod for fkk sake.


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:34pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm:
Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?



You truly have no understanding about fishing do you?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Spend less time with your sodomy fixation and pick up fkken fishing rod for fkk sake.


You're right,  Big Hole, I've already said that.

Now you tell me one example of someone who catches and keeps prawns alive to use as live bait. One will do. FD doesn't know any.

You?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:36pm
Karnal


Quote:
[quote ]Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?

My heart bleeds for you Karnal- harden up- if you eat fish you have no right to whine- - go support a worthy cause such as the live export industry- or the horror that goes on in slaughter houses- but I bet you eat red meat and pork too dont you? hal hal practices even- grow up

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:44pm

Agnes wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:36pm:
Karnal


Quote:
[quote ]Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?

My heart bleeds for you Karnal- harden up- if you eat fish you have no right to whine- - go support a worthy cause such as the live export industry- or the horror that goes on in slaughter houses- but I bet you eat red meat and pork too dont you? hal hal practices even- grow up


I'm considering giving up fish, Agnes. I don't eat meat.

I would, however, prefer to see humane fish farming practices. Me giving up eating prawns is about as useful in changing this as signing Mother's petition, but we'll see.

Who knows? The petition and lobbying might do the trick.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Valkie on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:28pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm:
Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?



You truly have no understanding about fishing do you?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Spend less time with your sodomy fixation and pick up fkken fishing rod for fkk sake.


More accurately, you can simply say it has no understanding, full stop.
It is still too stoopid to use peoples names, probably because it is retarded from all the inbreeding in its family.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Captain Caveman on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:44pm
Im a fisherman. I eat fresh fish every week. I believe prawns have a sensory of some sort. I don't see tears in their eyes when i stick a 5 O through their back though, but the fish they catch will be taken and eaten. I also eat prawns and crabs and crayfish and bugs and squid. Love seafood. Rather than purchas the crap from a take away or supermarket i catch my own. I enjoy it. Have for 30+ years. Have a reel nice boat too. Get it?  ;D

I also kill fish for fun. Yep. Catch and kill to not be eaten. I don't torture them but i do throw them on the bank.
European carp and tilapia. They are destroying our waterways.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:58pm
20 pages in and Mothra is still unwilling to say whether prawns feel pain. Her opinion is so valuable she can exchange it for something. The only thing she is prepared to say is that if you research it you will find the answer.

What makes you think pain is "the most rudimentary self-protection mechanism"? Is this just something else you blurted out without thinking?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Captain Caveman on Sep 12th, 2017 at 8:05pm
Depends on the pain.

I have a braid fishing line split in the end of my finger that hurts like f when i bump it.
I also have a big scar on my ankle from a piece of form ply falling on it last week and it hurts all the time. But the spit hurts more than the ankle if i bump it.

Problem is that "people" put themselves in the position of the animal and they don't like it yet that's how this planet functions.

Does a plant have feelings? It dies if you snap it's trunk. So best not eat a plant either.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:08pm
It has feelings if you thrash the broken branches around wildly.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:11pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 8:05pm:
Depends on the pain.

I have a braid fishing line split in the end of my finger that hurts like f when i bump it.
I also have a big scar on my ankle from a piece of form ply falling on it last week and it hurts all the time. But the spit hurts more than the ankle if i bump it.

Problem is that "people" put themselves in the position of the animal and they don't like it yet that's how this planet functions.

Does a plant have feelings? It dies if you snap it's trunk. So best not eat a plant either.

Thats what I think- plants do have feelings- so if we are going to talk about pain- lets talk about pain shall we? Do vegos worry about the pain they inflict on plants?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:16pm
See how easy it is to give your opinion Mothra? Maybe Agnes should have sold it on ebay rather than giving it away for free.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:42pm

Valkie wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm:
Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?



You truly have no understanding about fishing do you?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Spend less time with your sodomy fixation and pick up fkken fishing rod for fkk sake.


More accurately, you can simply say it has no understanding, full stop.
It is still too stoopid to use peoples names, probably because it is retarded from all the inbreeding in its family.


Now Matty, that is simply not true.

It is retarded from years of reading the posts on this board.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 12th, 2017 at 11:46pm

freediver wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 9:16pm:
See how easy it is to give your opinion Mothra?


Not at all, FD. You just make it look easy.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gnads on Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:58am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 2:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 9th, 2017 at 8:12am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:54pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:39pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 5:05am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 3:00am:

freediver wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:38am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:03am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:59am:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:14am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:55am:

Gordon wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:35pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
That might explain why they still do it even if they have been dead for a few days. But still, could you look deep into the beady eyes of a crustacean and tell me it doesn't have feelings?


I wonder if prawns feels as much pain when theyre used as live bait as when they have their eyes sliced off?


Who uses prawns as live bait, Gordon?



People who go fishing with live prawns.


Who keeps aquariums on the wharf, Big Hole?



Why would anyone want or need to keep an aquarium on a wharf?


I suspect Karnal thinks prawns come from aquariums and fishermen come from wharves. If they want live bait, they just stop by the seafood buffet and ask to borrow the clownfish from the display.

If the article says whether prawns feel pain, why is no-one prepared to answer the question?


I suspect FD's pretending not to talk to me.

Can someone ask FD how fishermen keep prawns alive to fish with?



You truly are clueless aren't you. What a terrible existence you have had to not have fishing as one of your life skills.


In a boat they are kept in, surprisingly enough, a live bait tank and on land a live bait bucket.

And before you ask, they are caught in a cast net.


Thanks, Big Hole. How many fishermen actually catch prawns to use as live bait for hook and line fishing?

And where do they catch these prawns? Off a jetty? Out at sea?

You're right. I'm clueless That's why I'm asking.

FD won't say.



How many fkk knows, about a third of the blokes, I know live bait.

You can cast off a jetty or as boat.



Mate, take up fishing, it is relaxing and excite depending on what your  hook is doing.  :) :) :)


I know about live bait (little fishes or worms). We're discussing live prawns.

All of the blokes I know buy them frozen from the petrol station.



And?



Do they cast or drag bait nets where it is easy to catch live prawns along with sardines and poddy mullet.


What is with the fixation, it isn't that important of a subject, what is your little pea sized brain struggling with?


The fact that prawn schools only come out at night, and you need a light to attract them with.

Now enough's enough. I'm willing to bet no one uses live prawns as bait. Which of you bottom-feeders wants to take me on?

Don't answer too quickly, Big Hole.


You're already wrong .... why go on?

People use live shrimp & prawns as bait.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Captain Caveman on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:04am
Live prawns are great bait. I use them. Guilty as charged.
How much was the bet for?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:27am

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm:
Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?



You truly have no understanding about fishing do you?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Spend less time with your sodomy fixation and pick up fkken fishing rod for fkk sake.


You're right,  Big Hole, I've already said that.

Now you tell me one example of someone who catches and keeps prawns alive to use as live bait. One will do. FD doesn't know any.

You?



Umm me, my brothers, about half the people I fish with.


What the fkk is wrong with your wiring that you cannot, under any circumstance, believe that prawns can be caught during the day, in estuaries, and onshore with cast and drag nets, to be then used for fishing as live bait.

You are truly one fkked up little unit.  ;D ;D ;D


5 Yet another way to rig a shrimp for basic casting and drift-fishing is to run the hook through the tip of the tail, either crosswise or up through the center of the tail. The latter keeps the hook point clear of bottom snags. Many experts prefer this method because it allows the shrimp to kick freely and puts the hook in a good position for striking when a game fish eats the bait head-first. The tail fan can be left on, or removed to provide additional scent.

http://www.georgepoveromo.com/content.php?pid=33

Prawns as Bait

Australia’s favorite bait the humble prawn is one of the best baits available they fairly easy to catch and always available from your local bait and tackle shop. Whether they are live, fresh, frozen or cooked prawns are usually taken by the first fish that passes. Bream, Whiting, Flathead, Sweetlip and Snapper find them irresistible.

Drag Netting
Drag Netting is easy and also the most productive way to catch a lot of prawns basically designed to be used by two people the net has fine mesh with floats on the top and lead weights on the bottom and also a pocket in the center to trap the catch. Working the net over sand banks or weed beds on the run out tide is best. Before you use a drag net check with your state’s fisheries as all Australian states have different regulations for drag nets.

Cast Nets

Cast nets are also a productive way to catch prawns there is a small learning curve involved with using a cast net so be sure to purchase it from a bait and tackle shop where you will be shown how to correctly throw one. Cast nets a more versatile than other nets as they can be used from jetties, boats and areas like deep mangrove creeks to catch prawns. When Banana prawns run in SE Queensland it is a common to see many boats grouped together cast large cast nets and taking large hauls of prawns with just a few good casts. As with any netting check your State fisheries before prawning.

http://www.fishingaustralia.com.au/prawns-and-prawning




Five minutes and a google search


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 13th, 2017 at 6:42pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:27am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm:
Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?



You truly have no understanding about fishing do you?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Spend less time with your sodomy fixation and pick up fkken fishing rod for fkk sake.


You're right,  Big Hole, I've already said that.

Now you tell me one example of someone who catches and keeps prawns alive to use as live bait. One will do. FD doesn't know any.

You?



Umm me, my brothers, about half the people I fish with.


What the fkk is wrong with your wiring that you cannot, under any circumstance, believe that prawns can be caught during the day, in estuaries, and onshore with cast and drag nets, to be then used for fishing as live bait.

You are truly one fkked up little unit.  ;D ;D ;D


5 Yet another way to rig a shrimp for basic casting and drift-fishing is to run the hook through the tip of the tail, either crosswise or up through the center of the tail. The latter keeps the hook point clear of bottom snags. Many experts prefer this method because it allows the shrimp to kick freely and puts the hook in a good position for striking when a game fish eats the bait head-first. The tail fan can be left on, or removed to provide additional scent.

http://www.georgepoveromo.com/content.php?pid=33

Prawns as Bait

Australia’s favorite bait the humble prawn is one of the best baits available they fairly easy to catch and always available from your local bait and tackle shop. Whether they are live, fresh, frozen or cooked prawns are usually taken by the first fish that passes. Bream, Whiting, Flathead, Sweetlip and Snapper find them irresistible.

Drag Netting
Drag Netting is easy and also the most productive way to catch a lot of prawns basically designed to be used by two people the net has fine mesh with floats on the top and lead weights on the bottom and also a pocket in the center to trap the catch. Working the net over sand banks or weed beds on the run out tide is best. Before you use a drag net check with your state’s fisheries as all Australian states have different regulations for drag nets.

Cast Nets

Cast nets are also a productive way to catch prawns there is a small learning curve involved with using a cast net so be sure to purchase it from a bait and tackle shop where you will be shown how to correctly throw one. Cast nets a more versatile than other nets as they can be used from jetties, boats and areas like deep mangrove creeks to catch prawns. When Banana prawns run in SE Queensland it is a common to see many boats grouped together cast large cast nets and taking large hauls of prawns with just a few good casts. As with any netting check your State fisheries before prawning.

http://www.fishingaustralia.com.au/prawns-and-prawning




Five minutes and a google search


Good work, Big Hole. You've finally provided an answer.

Now why squirm for so long when it just takes a 5 minute Google search?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Frank on Sep 13th, 2017 at 6:54pm

Neferti wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?



No, he doesn't realise. He dimply imagines that a golf playing cane toad is signalling his suave, urbane sophistication - it's golf, after all.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 13th, 2017 at 7:00pm

Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Neferti wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?



No, he doesn't realise. He dimply imagines that a golf playing cane toad is signalling his suave, urbane sophistication - it's golf, after all.


And here I was thinking you did not care, Sore End.  Cheers!

:-*



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gordon on Sep 13th, 2017 at 7:17pm
Hey Aussie, tell us all the things you've done to cane toads again  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Frank on Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:44pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 6:54pm:

Neferti wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:11pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 10th, 2017 at 5:59pm:
Dunno.


You do realise that your avatar depicts you as a skinny legged, no balls, puffed up chest and the dumbest looking face nobody would own, don't ya?



No, he doesn't realise. He dimply imagines that a golf playing cane toad is signalling his suave, urbane sophistication - it's golf, after all.


And here I was thinking you did not care, Sore End.  Cheers!

:-*

Care? Who cares for incomprehending, golfing cane toads with zero self-awareness and the laughable self-regard of a third-grade milk monitor with a badge?
Mothra, probably. But only if their eyes are cut out.  Being blind to all about you, I think you'll  qualify.j

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:48pm

Quote:
Care? Who cares for incomprehending, golfing cane toads with zero self-awareness and the laughable self-regard of a third-grade milk monitor?
Mothra, probably. But only if their eyes are cut out.  Being blind to all about you, I think you'll  qualify.


Oh, come orn, Sore End, you love it, yeas?  Or perhaps you fear it.  I'm not sure which.  Whatever, I've had that avatar for about 15 years so I guess I'll keep it.

I do hope it really pizzes you orf.

Love and kisses,

Aussie.

PS:




Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Gordon on Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:55pm
You still wake up sometimes, don't you?

                Wake up in the dark

                and hear the screaming of the toads ?

                Yes.

                And you think, if you save poor prawns, you could make them stop, don't you?

                You think if prawn lives,

                you won't wake up in the dark ever again

                to that awful screaming of the toads.

                I don't know.

               I don't know.

                Thank you, Aussie.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Frank on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:05pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Quote:
Care? Who cares for incomprehending, golfing cane toads with zero self-awareness and the laughable self-regard of a third-grade milk monitor?
Mothra, probably. But only if their eyes are cut out.  Being blind to all about you, I think you'll  qualify.


Oh, come orn, Sore End, you love it, yeas?  Or perhaps you fear it.  I'm not sure which.  Whatever, I've had that avatar for about 15 years so I guess I'll keep it.

I do hope it really pizzes you orf.

Love and kisses,

Aussie.

PS:




Laughing AT you, not near you, toad.  Keep trying to be funny, its amusing in ways you have been evidently oblivious to.
For 15 years and counting.


As you were.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:13pm

Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Quote:
Care? Who cares for incomprehending, golfing cane toads with zero self-awareness and the laughable self-regard of a third-grade milk monitor?
Mothra, probably. But only if their eyes are cut out.  Being blind to all about you, I think you'll  qualify.


Oh, come orn, Sore End, you love it, yeas?  Or perhaps you fear it.  I'm not sure which.  Whatever, I've had that avatar for about 15 years so I guess I'll keep it.

I do hope it really pizzes you orf.

Love and kisses,

Aussie.

PS:




Laughing AT you, not near you, toad.  Keep trying to be funny, its amusing in ways you have been evidently oblivious to.
For 15 years and counting.


As you were.


Huh???  That's it?  The best you have?

How unsurprisingly disappointing.

:-*



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 14th, 2017 at 12:18pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 6:42pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:27am:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:34pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:27pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Sep 12th, 2017 at 6:17pm:
Yes, Matty, but what would you call a cult who goes out hunting for prawns with torches in the dark of night, solely to use them as live bait during the day? What would you call a cult who places these creatures live on hooks so that their torturous death throws attract larger fish?

The Sustainability Party?



You truly have no understanding about fishing do you?   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Spend less time with your sodomy fixation and pick up fkken fishing rod for fkk sake.


You're right,  Big Hole, I've already said that.

Now you tell me one example of someone who catches and keeps prawns alive to use as live bait. One will do. FD doesn't know any.

You?



Umm me, my brothers, about half the people I fish with.


What the fkk is wrong with your wiring that you cannot, under any circumstance, believe that prawns can be caught during the day, in estuaries, and onshore with cast and drag nets, to be then used for fishing as live bait.

You are truly one fkked up little unit.  ;D ;D ;D


5 Yet another way to rig a shrimp for basic casting and drift-fishing is to run the hook through the tip of the tail, either crosswise or up through the center of the tail. The latter keeps the hook point clear of bottom snags. Many experts prefer this method because it allows the shrimp to kick freely and puts the hook in a good position for striking when a game fish eats the bait head-first. The tail fan can be left on, or removed to provide additional scent.

http://www.georgepoveromo.com/content.php?pid=33

Prawns as Bait

Australia’s favorite bait the humble prawn is one of the best baits available they fairly easy to catch and always available from your local bait and tackle shop. Whether they are live, fresh, frozen or cooked prawns are usually taken by the first fish that passes. Bream, Whiting, Flathead, Sweetlip and Snapper find them irresistible.

Drag Netting
Drag Netting is easy and also the most productive way to catch a lot of prawns basically designed to be used by two people the net has fine mesh with floats on the top and lead weights on the bottom and also a pocket in the center to trap the catch. Working the net over sand banks or weed beds on the run out tide is best. Before you use a drag net check with your state’s fisheries as all Australian states have different regulations for drag nets.

Cast Nets

Cast nets are also a productive way to catch prawns there is a small learning curve involved with using a cast net so be sure to purchase it from a bait and tackle shop where you will be shown how to correctly throw one. Cast nets a more versatile than other nets as they can be used from jetties, boats and areas like deep mangrove creeks to catch prawns. When Banana prawns run in SE Queensland it is a common to see many boats grouped together cast large cast nets and taking large hauls of prawns with just a few good casts. As with any netting check your State fisheries before prawning.

http://www.fishingaustralia.com.au/prawns-and-prawning




Five minutes and a google search


Good work, Big Hole. You've finally provided an answer.

Now why squirm for so long when it just takes a 5 minute Google search?



I keep forgetting just how fkken stupid you are and your inability to do your own basic research.


I try to not overuse this, but you are kicked in the head by a fkken mule stupid.


Now remember Im not your mummy, I have no obligation to spoon feed you, if I want to answer I will, if I think an answer is wasted on a fkked up cretin like you, then I won't.


Understand how it works now?  :) :) :) :) :)



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Fireball on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:01pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 10:05pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 13th, 2017 at 9:48pm:

Quote:
Care? Who cares for incomprehending, golfing cane toads with zero self-awareness and the laughable self-regard of a third-grade milk monitor?
Mothra, probably. But only if their eyes are cut out.  Being blind to all about you, I think you'll  qualify.


Oh, come orn, Sore End, you love it, yeas?  Or perhaps you fear it.  I'm not sure which.  Whatever, I've had that avatar for about 15 years so I guess I'll keep it.

I do hope it really pizzes you orf.

Love and kisses,

Aussie.

PS:




Laughing AT you, not near you, toad.  Keep trying to be funny, its amusing in ways you have been evidently oblivious to.
For 15 years and counting.


As you were.


Huh???  That's it?  The best you have?

How unsurprisingly disappointing.

:-*


Better than yours it would seem........In fact very accurate......

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Agnes on Sep 14th, 2017 at 1:22pm
Wont some one think about the worms- threaded onto a hook alive- having a hook slipped right up the middle- and thrown in the water to add insult to injury :o

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 14th, 2017 at 5:50pm
Mothra will be a long shortly to tell us how to google whether worms feel pain.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 14th, 2017 at 5:52pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 5:50pm:
Mothra will be a long shortly to tell us how to google whether worms feel pain.


Effendi, did you ever say whether you reckon prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 14th, 2017 at 6:04pm
I don't think so.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 14th, 2017 at 6:05pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 6:04pm:
I don't think so.


Then, here's your golden opportunity to tell us.

Do prawns feel pain?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 14th, 2017 at 6:13pm
I doubt it.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 14th, 2017 at 6:37pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 6:13pm:
I doubt it.


That's the same boat I'm in.  You dunno, I dunno, so if someone comes along and says prawns do feel pain and they explain why, Ima gonna shut up.

You?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:07pm
Are you leaning towards no?

Karnal and Mothra seem to be hinting at yes, but for some reason they are afraid to come out of the closet on this one.

Obviously my response would depend on what they say Aussie. I don't believe that you would shut up though.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:17pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:07pm:
Are you leaning towards no?


No.  I'm dead set in the 'dunno' camp.


Quote:
Karnal and Mothra seem to be hinting at yes, but for some reason they are afraid to come out of the closet on this one.


Don't know about the 'afraid' bit, but I agree they seem to be in the 'yes' camp.


Quote:
Obviously my response would depend on what they say Aussie. I don't believe that you would shut up though.


You've been snowed by wacist anti-Aussie propaganda!

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:35pm
I think Mothra is afraid of looking silly. Karnal just doesn't bother trying to make sense.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:42pm

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
I think Mothra is afraid of looking silly.


I doubt that a great deal.


Quote:
Karnal just doesn't bother trying to make sense.


If you understand 'Karnal,' he makes perfect sense.  You need an antennae to sort out the satirical and clever pisstake from his more serious efforts.  It does you no credit to ignore him as you do.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Frank on Sep 14th, 2017 at 9:14pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 5:52pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 5:50pm:
Mothra will be a long shortly to tell us how to google whether worms feel pain.


Effendi, did you ever say whether you reckon prawns feel pain?



How does a prawn feel pain, Toad? Obviously not like us reading your crap day in day out.

But how?

Like bugs. They are sea bugs, whale food, water cockroaches. 




Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:08am

Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:42pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
I think Mothra is afraid of looking silly.


I doubt that a great deal.


Quote:
Karnal just doesn't bother trying to make sense.


If you understand 'Karnal,' he makes perfect sense.  You need an antennae to sort out the satirical and clever pisstake from his more serious efforts.  It does you no credit to ignore him as you do.



So, karnals barely veiled homo sexual rape threats, clever pisstake, or serious effort?



There is no depth here, he is a thick as pigshit, wanna-be hero, nothing more, but probably much less.


Remember, only his fellow civilians support his war hero status, not one single ex-serviceman acknowledges he is one of us. That in itself speaks volumes about the man.






Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Aussie on Sep 15th, 2017 at 9:58am

Quote:
Remember, only his fellow civilians support his war hero status, not one single ex-serviceman acknowledges he is one of us. That in itself speaks volumes about the man.


I know nothing about any 'war hero status,' so I have never 'supported' what I know nothing about.  I cannot recall Karnal ever claiming 'war hero status' either.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 16th, 2017 at 5:08am

Aussie wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 9:58am:

Quote:
Remember, only his fellow civilians support his war hero status, not one single ex-serviceman acknowledges he is one of us. That in itself speaks volumes about the man.


I know nothing about any 'war hero status,' so I have never 'supported' what I know nothing about.  I cannot recall Karnal ever claiming 'war hero status' either.



Well, maybe you don't read absolutely everything that is written here or maybe your don't retain everything you read. I know I don't but I do remember the comments of lying wanna be war heroes and I don't let that sh1t slide, ever.


It was a while ago and we have kept his lies in check since he decided to lie about his war prowess on this board.



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:32am
I'd be keen to see that also. Can you dig it up?

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:55am

freediver wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:32am:
I'd be keen to see that also. Can you dig it up?



Something he said 2 or 3 years ago, yeah Ill get right on that.


If it was important you you, you would not forget, since you have either forgotten or not bothered to read it in the first place, it probably wasn't ever that important was it?


So why is it so important you now that you want me to trawl back through several years of posts just to prove a point?.


Would you do the same?



Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:58am
I often dig up things people have said in the past.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:04am

freediver wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 9:58am:
I often dig up things people have said in the past.



Like I said why was it not important enough to comment at the time or at least remember it was said?


I often don't run off a trawl back a few years of post because some people can't remember stuff nor would I demand someone do it for me. Maybe we are different like that.




Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by freediver on Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:24am
Like you said, I may not have even read it.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by cods on Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:29am
prawns were born to be eaten    of course there is no pain involved 

god would never be that cruel....


Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Karnal on Sep 17th, 2017 at 4:24am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 15th, 2017 at 7:08am:

Aussie wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:42pm:

freediver wrote on Sep 14th, 2017 at 7:35pm:
I think Mothra is afraid of looking silly.


I doubt that a great deal.


Quote:
Karnal just doesn't bother trying to make sense.


If you understand 'Karnal,' he makes perfect sense.  You need an antennae to sort out the satirical and clever pisstake from his more serious efforts.  It does you no credit to ignore him as you do.



So, karnals barely veiled homo sexual rape threats, clever pisstake, or serious effort?



There is no depth here, he is a thick as pigshit, wanna-be hero, nothing more, but probably much less.


Remember, only his fellow civilians support his war hero status, not one single ex-serviceman acknowledges he is one of us. That in itself speaks volumes about the man.




I'm not one of you, son, I'm one of us. If I want to hang out with blokes who call themselves "servicemen", I'll go for a cold one at the pub in Mascot when the baggage handlers finish work.

I hang out with warriors. I'm a lover, not a figher.

You know that, Big Hole. I broke you in.

Title: Re: Prawns have eyes sliced off
Post by Captain Caveman on Sep 17th, 2017 at 7:37am

cods wrote on Sep 16th, 2017 at 10:29am:
prawns were born to be eaten    of course there is no pain involved 

god would never be that cruel....


Oh please.
Yet your god will let the likes of Brett cowan, dennis furgo do what they do. And there is worse out there.

God doesn't exist. Find peace in yourself and get the higher being programing out of your head.

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