It is made quite often here, and just like an accusation that someone is a paedophile, has very serious criminal implications.

Can it be placed in the same 'do not use' basket as paedophile is?

I am not suggesting this is anything other than the most recent example, but it was what inspired this Thread:

Link.

I'm not suggestion there is direct equivalence between the two....just highlighting the common factor....an allegation of very serious criminal conduct that ought be referred to Plod, not made here.

I have said many times here that what people call stalking is not stalking. "You posted straight after me in a public forum! Stalker!" Obviously doesn't meet the legal definition.

Perhaps, Aussie, perhaps. Let's see what FD has to say. I for one really do not like people being accused of illegal activities to get one up on another member.

Setanta wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

I have said many times here that what people call stalking is not stalking. "You posted straight after me in a public forum! Stalker!" Obviously doesn't meet the legal definition. Perhaps, Aussie, perhaps. Let's see what FD has to say. I for one really do not like people being accused of illegal activities to get one up on another member.

Yet, the accusation is made far too often to blacken the name of a Member who is not stalking (as you say) whatsoever.

Mud sticks and that is the very deliberate intent......impugn a Member, and quite falsely, as happened in that Thread I linked.

Aussie wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 10:23pm:

Setanta wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 10:18pm: I have said many times here that what people call stalking is not stalking. "You posted straight after me in a public forum! Stalker!" Obviously doesn't meet the legal definition. Perhaps, Aussie, perhaps. Let's see what FD has to say. I for one really do not like people being accused of illegal activities to get one up on another member. Yet, the accusation is made far too often to blacken the name of a Member who is not stalking (as you say) whatsoever. Mud sticks and that is the very deliberate intent......impugn a Member, and quite falsely, as happened in that Thread I linked.

I read that before you posted this and o be honest I didn't see Gordy's that way, more of a joke. But still I'd like members to be free from accusations of activities that are illegal. I saw no malice in his post.

Setanta wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 10:41pm:

Aussie wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 10:23pm: Setanta wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 10:18pm: I have said many times here that what people call stalking is not stalking. "You posted straight after me in a public forum! Stalker!" Obviously doesn't meet the legal definition. Perhaps, Aussie, perhaps. Let's see what FD has to say. I for one really do not like people being accused of illegal activities to get one up on another member. Yet, the accusation is made far too often to blacken the name of a Member who is not stalking (as you say) whatsoever. Mud sticks and that is the very deliberate intent......impugn a Member, and quite falsely, as happened in that Thread I linked. I read that before you posted this and o be honest I didn't see Gordy's that way, more of a joke. But still I'd like members to be free from accusations of activities that are illegal. I saw no malice in his post.

As I said....I used that as an example of how casually the allegation is made.....malice aside.

It is a nasty and insidious thing to be accused of and carries significant legal sanctions, both civilly and criminally.

I doubt I can say anything more on the matter.

You have made allegations that a member here has hacked both this forum, PA and Yahoo yet I see no actions have been taken against you Aussie, the accuser. Maybe you should not be so quick to point the finger at someone else without considering your own behaviour first.

AiA wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 10:59pm:

You have made allegations that a member here has hacked both this forum, PA and Yahoo yet I see no actions have been taken against you Aussie, the accuser. Maybe you should not be so quick to point the finger at someone else without considering your own behaviour first.

As I said, I'd like to see all allegations of illegality against members be gone. I think it's a pretty low form of debate.

Setanta wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 11:08pm:

AiA wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 10:59pm: You have made allegations that a member here has hacked both this forum, PA and Yahoo yet I see no actions have been taken against you Aussie, the accuser. Maybe you should not be so quick to point the finger at someone else without considering your own behaviour first. I think it's a pretty low form of debate.

Agreed.

Troll

freediver wrote on May 12^th, 2017 at 8:32pm:

Troll

I know why you say that but on a wider scale, do you think members should be slandered with illegalities? I don't.

Setanta wrote on May 11^th, 2017 at 11:08pm:

AiA wrote on May 11th, 2017 at 10:59pm: You have made allegations that a member here has hacked both this forum, PA and Yahoo yet I see no actions have been taken against you Aussie, the accuser. Maybe you should not be so quick to point the finger at someone else without considering your own behaviour first. As I said, I'd like to see all allegations of illegality against members be gone. I think it's a pretty low form of debate.

Yet Aussie throws out all kinds of lies in Relationshits weekly with impunity ...

On the original question, I am not going to ban the stalker accusation. It is not the same thing as being called a pedophile.

Gee - if there was a paedophile or terrorist exploiting or roaming this Forum.
I for one would totally support anyone who has a sincere 'question' about that kind of person.
Better to be proved wrong (understandably), than to let such a person go unchecked.
"Just smile for the cameras Pope John Paul." (and turn a blind eye to it all)

I think it would 'shame' this Forum pretty bad, if such a person went 'un-checked'.
I would prefer 'proof', rather than 'opinionated whims'.

And it should be assessed by no other(s) except FreeDiver and Myself !!

Oh - I'm putting myself out on a limb here  :o

Jasin wrote on Jun 26^th, 2017 at 9:11pm:

Gee - if there was a paedophile or terrorist exploiting or roaming this Forum. I for one would totally support anyone who has a sincere 'question' about that kind of person. Better to be proved wrong (understandably), than to let such a person go unchecked. "Just smile for the cameras Pope John Paul." (and turn a blind eye to it all) I think it would 'shame' this Forum pretty bad, if such a person went 'un-checked'. I would prefer 'proof', rather than 'opinionated whims'. And it should be assessed by no other(s) except FreeDiver and Myself !! Oh - I'm putting myself out on a limb here  :o

Ozpolitic pedophilia experts?

It remains to be seen.
Gotta start somewhere.

I always thought a pedophile was a pedophile.
A stalker is a stalker.


Quote:

paedophile ˈpiːdə(ʊ)fʌɪl/ noun noun: pedophile     a person who is sexually attracted to children.

Quote:

stalker ˈstɔːkə/ noun noun: stalker; plural noun: stalkers     1.     a person who harasses or persecutes someone with unwanted and obsessive attention.     "Tracy claimed she was the victim of a stalker"     2.     a person who hunts game stealthily.     "a keen fisherman and deer stalker"

Clearly they are not the same thing and clearly people can be stalked on forums.

That is not the legal definition of the term 'stalker.'

No it's just the ENGLISH definition and we speak English and write in English. :D :D :D :D :D

Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days;

Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like?

I'm not aware of a lightheaded use of the term pedophilia.

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 1:35pm:

That is not the legal definition of the term 'stalker.'

Oh duh!

We were merely attempting to provide you with a watered down/easy to understand 'cabbie' version of it.

Gordon wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 4:17pm:

Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? I'm not aware of a lightheaded use of the term pedophilia.

Tell you what...I stalk my 2 older kids on Facebook whenever I can  ;D

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 4:26pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:17pm: Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? I'm not aware of a lightheaded use of the term pedophilia. Tell you what...I stalk my 2 older kids on Facebook whenever I can  ;D

My daughter's only 10 so social media is only allowed with mum or dad there, but everyone STALKS their kids Facebook, except Instagram is more popular these days I believe.

Gordon wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 4:35pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:26pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:17pm: Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? I'm not aware of a lightheaded use of the term pedophilia. Tell you what...I stalk my 2 older kids on Facebook whenever I can  ;D My daughter's only 10 so social media is only allowed with mum or dad there, but everyone STALKS their kids Facebook, except Instagram is more popular these days I believe.

I stalk my 2 older kids on both sites.

And I'm bloody glad I do! A few times I've had to intervene ie tell them to take their freaking pics of our house and our cars OFF these sites!

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 4:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:35pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:26pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:17pm: Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? I'm not aware of a lightheaded use of the term pedophilia. Tell you what...I stalk my 2 older kids on Facebook whenever I can  ;D My daughter's only 10 so social media is only allowed with mum or dad there, but everyone STALKS their kids Facebook, except Instagram is more popular these days I believe. I stalk my 2 older kids on both sites. And I'm bloody glad I do! A few times I've had to intervene ie tell them to take their freaking pics of our house and our cars OFF these sites!

Do you consider your checking your kids social media to have very serious criminal implications?

Gordon wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 4:49pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:42pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:35pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:26pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:17pm: Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? I'm not aware of a lightheaded use of the term pedophilia. Tell you what...I stalk my 2 older kids on Facebook whenever I can  ;D My daughter's only 10 so social media is only allowed with mum or dad there, but everyone STALKS their kids Facebook, except Instagram is more popular these days I believe. I stalk my 2 older kids on both sites. And I'm bloody glad I do! A few times I've had to intervene ie tell them to take their freaking pics of our house and our cars OFF these sites! Do you consider your checking your kids social media to have very serious criminal implications?

Hell yeah!  ;D

Why?

I've told both of them they'll be dead meat IF I see them post any further pics of our home or cars on these sites!

They finally got the message... I think.

I still check (just in case)  :P

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 4:54pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:49pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:42pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:35pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:26pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:17pm: Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? I'm not aware of a lightheaded use of the term pedophilia. Tell you what...I stalk my 2 older kids on Facebook whenever I can  ;D My daughter's only 10 so social media is only allowed with mum or dad there, but everyone STALKS their kids Facebook, except Instagram is more popular these days I believe. I stalk my 2 older kids on both sites. And I'm bloody glad I do! A few times I've had to intervene ie tell them to take their freaking pics of our house and our cars OFF these sites! Do you consider your checking your kids social media to have very serious criminal implications? Hell yeah!  ;D Why? I've told both of them they'll be dead meat IF I see them post any further pics of our home or cars on these sites! They finally got the message... I think. I still check (just in case)  :P

Stalking AND death threats.
I'll let Tex do the talking.
Do you know a good one?   ;D ;D ;D ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ0hOKCSuns

[quote author=Gordon link=1494500159/18#18 date=1498544269] Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days;

Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like?



what about smearing a persons name.! gordy?

a place like ozpol is very close to a place like facebook...and people can do untold harm  with many lies or innuendos....you know what they say about a Lie repeated often enough....one gets an illusion of the truth..

stalking on the internet  is not acceptable behavior...of course fd has his own rules on this...but I think he should accept that this is a public place...and it should be governed by international rules 

if you mentioned an Indian restaurant on face book...and did the same on ozpol..

  you would more or less expect  comments.. so to comment is not stalking..

now if you mentioned on facebook  about seeing someone else in the restaurant.. [ Joe Blow and he was dead drunk] then you could be in trouble...

you are in fact talking about someone who may not like what you have said..

where do you draw the line on here.?
just because we are anonymous doesnt make us invisible......

cods wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 5:03pm:

[quote author=Gordon link=1494500159/18#18 date=1498544269] Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? what about smearing a persons name.! gordy? a place like ozpol is very close to a place like facebook...and people can do untold harm  with many lies or innuendos....you know what they say about a Lie repeated often enough....one gets an illusion of the truth.. stalking on the internet  is not acceptable behavior...of course fd has his own rules on this...but I think he should accept that this is a public place...and it should be governed by international rules  if you mentioned an Indian restaurant

YUCK!!!! I prefer Thai, but that's me.  ;D ;D ;D

Grendel wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:

No it's just the ENGLISH definition and we speak English and write in English. :D :D :D :D :D

Which part of this is beyond your ken, Grendel:


Quote:

Of stalking, the essential elements would be: (a) a willed act by the defendant, (b) which intrudes upon the privacy or seclusion of the plaintiff, (c) in a manner which would be considered highly offensive to a reasonable person of ordinary sensibilities, (d) and which causes the plaintiff detriment in the form of mental psychological or emotional harm or distress or which prevents or hinders the plaintiff from doing an act which she is lawfully entitled to do.

Gordon wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 5:07pm:

cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:03pm: [quote author=Gordon link=1494500159/18#18 date=1498544269] Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? what about smearing a persons name.! gordy? a place like ozpol is very close to a place like facebook...and people can do untold harm  with many lies or innuendos....you know what they say about a Lie repeated often enough....one gets an illusion of the truth.. stalking on the internet  is not acceptable behavior...of course fd has his own rules on this...but I think he should accept that this is a public place...and it should be governed by international rules  if you mentioned an Indian restaurant YUCK!!!! I prefer Thai, but that's me.  ;D ;D ;D

not sure gordy but I think there is a joke thread somewhere...lol..

I prefer Thai as well no maybe Vietnamese more flavour

cods wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 5:43pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:07pm: cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:03pm: [quote author=Gordon link=1494500159/18#18 date=1498544269] Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? what about smearing a persons name.! gordy? a place like ozpol is very close to a place like facebook...and people can do untold harm  with many lies or innuendos....you know what they say about a Lie repeated often enough....one gets an illusion of the truth.. stalking on the internet  is not acceptable behavior...of course fd has his own rules on this...but I think he should accept that this is a public place...and it should be governed by international rules  if you mentioned an Indian restaurant YUCK!!!! I prefer Thai, but that's me.  ;D ;D ;D not sure gordy but I think there is a joke thread somewhere...lol.. I prefer Thai as well no maybe Vietnamese more flavour

Bang me?

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 5:13pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:01pm: No it's just the ENGLISH definition and we speak English and write in English. :D :D :D :D :D Which part of this is beyond your ken, Grendel: Quote: Of stalking, the essential elements would be: (a) a willed act by the defendant, (b) which intrudes upon the privacy or seclusion of the plaintiff, (c) in a manner which would be considered highly offensive to a reasonable person of ordinary sensibilities, (d) and which causes the plaintiff detriment in the form of mental psychological or emotional harm or distress or which prevents or hinders the plaintiff from doing an act which she is lawfully entitled to do.

My ken is not impaired Aussie...  yours seems to be though.
would it help your ken if I reposted in much larger fonts for you.

BTW Pedophilia and Stalking have never been the same things.

Also...

Quote:

Stalking is unwanted or obsessive attention by an individual or group towards another person. Stalking behaviors are related to harassment and intimidation and may include following the victim in person or monitoring them. The term stalking is used with some differing definitions in psychiatry and psychology, as well as in some legal jurisdictions as a term for a criminal offense.

LOL....  IMO stalking here is used to define the NORMAL English definition.  Pretty simple really.
YOU have issues Aussie, seek help. :D

Grendel wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 10:12am:

I always thought a pedophile was a pedophile. A stalker is a stalker. Quote: paedophile ˈpiːdə(ʊ)fʌɪl/ noun noun: pedophile     a person who is sexually attracted to children. [quote]stalker ˈstɔːkə/ noun noun: stalker; plural noun: stalkers     1.     a person who harasses or persecutes someone with unwanted and obsessive attention.     "Tracy claimed she was the victim of a stalker"     2.     a person who hunts game stealthily.     "a keen fisherman and deer stalker"

Clearly they are not the same thing and clearly people can be stalked on forums.[/quote]

Grendel wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:13pm: Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 4:01pm: No it's just the ENGLISH definition and we speak English and write in English. :D :D :D :D :D Which part of this is beyond your ken, Grendel: Quote: Of stalking, the essential elements would be: (a) a willed act by the defendant, (b) which intrudes upon the privacy or seclusion of the plaintiff, (c) in a manner which would be considered highly offensive to a reasonable person of ordinary sensibilities, (d) and which causes the plaintiff detriment in the form of mental psychological or emotional harm or distress or which prevents or hinders the plaintiff from doing an act which she is lawfully entitled to do. My ken is not impaired Aussie...  yours seems to be though. would it help your ken if I reposted in much larger fonts for you. BTW Pedophilia and Stalking have never been the same things. Also... [quote]Stalking is unwanted or obsessive attention by an individual or group towards another person. Stalking behaviors are related to harassment and intimidation and may include following the victim in person or monitoring them. The term stalking is used with some differing definitions in psychiatry and psychology, as well as in some legal jurisdictions as a term for a criminal offense.

LOL....  IMO stalking here is used to define the NORMAL English definition.  Pretty simple really.
YOU have issues Aussie, seek help. :D[/quote]

Whenever anyone flees to the "You have issues, seek help" rubbish, you know the commentator is posting crap.

Grendel, where did I say that paedophilia and stalking were the same?

So if your 'ken' is not impaired you did understand every word of this simple stuff, yes?


Quote:

Of stalking, the essential elements would be: (a) a willed act by the defendant, (b) which intrudes upon the privacy or seclusion of the plaintiff, (c) in a manner which would be considered highly offensive to a reasonable person of ordinary sensibilities, (d) and which causes the plaintiff detriment in the form of mental psychological or emotional harm or distress or which prevents or hinders the plaintiff from doing an act which she is lawfully entitled to do.

You really do need to stop wasting everyone's time.

Grendel wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:32pm:

You really do need to stop wasting everyone's time.

That's another dead give-a-way that the author (poster of it)  is having his arse handed to him.

:)

Grendel wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 7:32pm:

You really do need to stop wasting everyone's time.

But in this case its the TRUTH..... :D :D :D :D :D

Grendel wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Grendel wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 7:32pm: You really do need to stop wasting everyone's time. But in this case its the TRUTH..... :D :D :D :D :D

And there you are....still wasting your time.

Every conversation with you is a waste of time Aussie....  everyone at PA and probably here too now, realise this. :D :D :D

Grendel wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 10:15am:

Every conversation with you is a waste of time Aussie....  everyone at PA and probably here too now, realise this. :D :D :D

And yet, here you are, wasting that precious time of yours with conversation.

;D

Gordon wrote on Jun 27^th, 2017 at 6:12pm:

cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:43pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:07pm: cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:03pm: [quote author=Gordon link=1494500159/18#18 date=1498544269] Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? what about smearing a persons name.! gordy? a place like ozpol is very close to a place like facebook...and people can do untold harm  with many lies or innuendos....you know what they say about a Lie repeated often enough....one gets an illusion of the truth.. stalking on the internet  is not acceptable behavior...of course fd has his own rules on this...but I think he should accept that this is a public place...and it should be governed by international rules  if you mentioned an Indian restaurant YUCK!!!! I prefer Thai, but that's me.  ;D ;D ;D not sure gordy but I think there is a joke thread somewhere...lol.. I prefer Thai as well no maybe Vietnamese more flavour Bang me?

I beg your pardon!

cods wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 10:57am:

Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 6:12pm: cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:43pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:07pm: cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:03pm: [quote author=Gordon link=1494500159/18#18 date=1498544269] Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? what about smearing a persons name.! gordy? a place like ozpol is very close to a place like facebook...and people can do untold harm  with many lies or innuendos....you know what they say about a Lie repeated often enough....one gets an illusion of the truth.. stalking on the internet  is not acceptable behavior...of course fd has his own rules on this...but I think he should accept that this is a public place...and it should be governed by international rules  if you mentioned an Indian restaurant YUCK!!!! I prefer Thai, but that's me.  ;D ;D ;D not sure gordy but I think there is a joke thread somewhere...lol.. I prefer Thai as well no maybe Vietnamese more flavour Bang me? I beg your pardon!

Bang me tit?

Here is a pic (official promo) of Me (on the back) and Freediver in case there is a Paedophile doing the rounds on this Forum.
As for Stalking, well - I'll follow that up later.

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Gordon wrote on Jun 28^th, 2017 at 11:31am:

cods wrote on Jun 28th, 2017 at 10:57am: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 6:12pm: cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:43pm: Gordon wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:07pm: cods wrote on Jun 27th, 2017 at 5:03pm: [quote author=Gordon link=1494500159/18#18 date=1498544269] Stalking can be used in context from lighthearted to a serious offense. An example of how it's often used lightheartedly these days; Hey I was stalking your Facebook yesterday and saw you went to that new Indian restaurant, what's it like? what about smearing a persons name.! gordy? a place like ozpol is very close to a place like facebook...and people can do untold harm  with many lies or innuendos....you know what they say about a Lie repeated often enough....one gets an illusion of the truth.. stalking on the internet  is not acceptable behavior...of course fd has his own rules on this...but I think he should accept that this is a public place...and it should be governed by international rules  if you mentioned an Indian restaurant YUCK!!!! I prefer Thai, but that's me.  ;D ;D ;D not sure gordy but I think there is a joke thread somewhere...lol.. I prefer Thai as well no maybe Vietnamese more flavour Bang me? I beg your pardon! Bang me tit?

you are having a turn by the look of things gordy....

I guess you have never been stalked  and now your worried...

yeah its called midlife crisis...you start worrying about all the stuff they do today that you missed out on because they hadnt thought of it when you were young..

lifes a beach like that...

I do wonder what we used as a reason to ignore people like mums and dads....

like todays youth, they bury their heads in smartphones or ipods.... giving no indication they are listening to you.. which they are not..

stalking now is all done with ones finger.. :-[

I have a stalker that can't get enough lovin off old skippy.
But dontcha know I'm still standing yea yea yea. 8-)

Black Orchid stalked me. To the point of creepy phone calls to children. Is that worth mentioning?

mothra wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Black Orchid stalked me. To the point of creepy phone calls to children. Is that worth mentioning?

:o

That's all I can say in the absence of further information. 

(Mind you, I have to say that, according to information given to me, she and Neferti acted together to post at the Sewer what they thought were all my personal details, including phone number.)

:o :o :o

Back at yahoo, when i was still Mothra and Black Orchid was Ruminating1, she conspired with others to poet what was thought to be my full name,phone number and address all over the forum.

The problem was it was the details of an innocent woman.

Anyway, i contacted her and made friends with her.

She told me that several different women called her house. At different times of the day and night. They called and spoke to her husband. They called and spoke to her children. Apparently they told the children they were "coming for mummy".

Ruminating1 (Black Orchid) blamed Roogal. Roogal blamed Ruminating.

All i know from my contact with the woman herself is that several different voices called.

Black Orchid (Ruminating1) has it in for me in a significant way. Still. After all these years.

And so it goes.

Went to the police ... the police were still behind the curve.

I wonder if they've caught up yet?

Aussie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 4:58pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 4:46pm: Black Orchid stalked me. To the point of creepy phone calls to children. Is that worth mentioning? :o That's all I can say in the absence of further information.  (Mind you, I have to say that, according to information given to me, she and Neferti acted together to post at the Sewer what they thought were all my personal details, including phone number.) :o :o :o

So no proof just Chinese whispers.
G mods?.. Is this OK?
given ozzz likes to quote Mattus so much what does he say about the claim Mattus made this week that ozzz stalked him at his work place?....

mothra wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 5:06pm:

Back at yahoo, when i was still Mothra and Black Orchid was Ruminating1, she conspired with others to poet what was thought to be my full name,phone number and address all over the forum. The problem was it was the details of an innocent woman. Anyway, i contacted her and made friends with her. She told me that several different women called her house. At different times of the day and night. They called and spoke to her husband. They called and spoke to her children. Apparently they told the children they were "coming for mummy". Ruminating1 (Black Orchid) blamed Roogal. Roogal blamed Ruminating. All i know from my contact with the woman herself is that several different voices called. Black Orchid (Ruminating1) has it in for me in a significant way. Still. After all these years. And so it goes.

I was never at Yahoo.  Back then PA (now the Sewer) was in full flight and a thriving, great site for political and some other discussions.  It is now the absolute pits.

Glad I was never at Yahoo.

Aussie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 5:14pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 5:06pm: Back at yahoo, when i was still Mothra and Black Orchid was Ruminating1, she conspired with others to poet what was thought to be my full name,phone number and address all over the forum. The problem was it was the details of an innocent woman. Anyway, i contacted her and made friends with her. She told me that several different women called her house. At different times of the day and night. They called and spoke to her husband. They called and spoke to her children. Apparently they told the children they were "coming for mummy". Ruminating1 (Black Orchid) blamed Roogal. Roogal blamed Ruminating. All i know from my contact with the woman herself is that several different voices called. Black Orchid (Ruminating1) has it in for me in a significant way. Still. After all these years. And so it goes. I was never at Yahoo.  Back then PA (now the Sewer) was in full flight and a thriving, great site for political and some other discussions.  It is now the absolute pits. Glad I was never at Yahoo.

Ahhh you would have see Lisa Jones in all of her finery.

Perhaps the only thing BO and i will ever agree on ... Lisa Jones is seriously disturbed.

skippy. wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 5:12pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 4:58pm: mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 4:46pm: Black Orchid stalked me. To the point of creepy phone calls to children. Is that worth mentioning? :o That's all I can say in the absence of further information.  (Mind you, I have to say that, according to information given to me, she and Neferti acted together to post at the Sewer what they thought were all my personal details, including phone number.) :o :o :o So no proof just Chinese whispers. G mods?.. Is this OK? given ozzz likes to quote Mattus so much what does he say about the claim Mattus made this week that ozzz stalked him at his work place?....

I'll tell you myself, skippeee.  And please cease the feigned crap that it is recent news to you.  The matter has been raised by AiA as a smoking gun for years, and it is a fizzer, as always with your lot.

Here is the truth.

When PA moved from the server owned by Mattus and Romeo, we were looking to preserve the records of the PA as it was when it was with Mattus.  He said he had backed it up to a disc.

(He had allowed Effendi access to that disc, but Effendi told us, because it could not retrieve the data from it ~ he had literally burned the disc and had mounted the result on his car bonnet as an symbol (Mercedes Benz badge thing like.)

Mattus is a very highly qualified internationally known and recognised medical scientist.  I met him at a PA meet up at Brisbane with other PAers.  (He was in Brisbane for some Conference.)  I knew his name, and he did not hide it, as I did mine.  I stayed being the on-line Aussie, to all there.

So, we were looking for records, and there is a Thread at the Sewer which will confirm all this.

As Mattus had said he had kept records, a discussion arose that maybe we ought try to contact him to get those records.  I said that I knew his name and could locate him.  AiA encouraged me to do so, despite the great reluctance I had posted  in that Thread.

Ultimately, I agreed to contact Mattus to see if he could assist with those records. (He had left PA at that time and could not be contacted on Forum.)

So, I rang him.  He answered the phone, I immediately identified myself as 'Aussie,' and he hung up.

Later, at PA, he posted his annoyance that I had done so.

Those are the facts.

I don't care how much stupid people try to beat it up because it was as simple as that.

I have never tried to contact him again, even though I know his current phone number.  I will never ring it.

Aussie wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 4:58pm:

That's all I can say in the absence of further information.  (Mind you, I have to say that, according to information given to me, she and Neferti acted together to post at the Sewer what they thought were all my personal details, including phone number.)

FYI the information was available to ANYONE who ventured into your (now defunct Forum) Fair Bloody Dinkum Forum.  The information included "a name", an address and a MOB. All probably false, since the name is.

NOBODY CARES who you are, but your "paper trail" is full of inconsistencies, so EVERYBODY knows you are a LIAR of The First Water.

What about your LinkedIn, where you present yourself under a different "name" as the Political Animal Administrator? Huh?

God knows what name you use on Facebook, Twitter and whatever else. I am sure of one thing, it is NOT "Aussie" but perhaps Phil E Buster? Elde Fruit? Rio? Big Girls Blouse? Choad Licker?

You are, without a doubt the most disingenuous and sneaky, snide type of person I have ever come across. Yet here you are, at OzPol, inserting yourself into conversations when nobody mentioned you or your "name" (which ever one) and having a go at Cods and anybody else you think you can denigrate.

Bugger off and stop making a pest of yourself, you creep!

Neferti wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 4:58pm: That's all I can say in the absence of further information.  (Mind you, I have to say that, according to information given to me, she and Neferti acted together to post at the Sewer what they thought were all my personal details, including phone number.) FYI the information was available to ANYONE who ventured into your (now defunct Forum) Fair Bloody Dinkum Forum.  The information included "a name", an address and a MOB. All probably false, since the name is. NOBODY CARES who you are, but your "paper trail" is full of inconsistencies, so EVERYBODY knows you are a LIAR of The First Water. What about your LinkedIn, where you present yourself under a different "name" as the Political Animal Administrator? Huh? God knows what name you use on Facebook, Twitter and whatever else. I am sure of one thing, it is NOT "Aussie" but perhaps Phil E Buster? Elde Fruit? Rio? Big Girls Blouse? Choad Licker? You are, without a doubt the most disingenuous and sneaky, snide type of person I have ever come across. Yet here you are, at OzPol, inserting yourself into conversations when nobody mentioned you or your "name" (which ever one) and having a go at Cods and anybody else you think you can denigrate. Bugger off and stop making a pest of yourself, you creep!

Yet....you in concert with Black Orchid  went to the trouble of actually looking.....and then........then........invaded what you thought was my privacy by posting the details.

I have no idea why you both are allowed to post here and at the Sewer.

What you each did, breaches the most fundamental Rule on these Boards.

Why did you do that?  What were you trying to achieve?

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 5:36pm:

Yet....you in concert with Black Orchid  went to the trouble of actually looking.....and then........then........invaded what you thought was my privacy by posting the details.

Leave Black Orchid out of this.


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I have no idea why you both are allowed to post here and at the Sewer.

We both post here at OzPol and at PA, neither or us post in your sub-forum SEWER.


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What you each did, breaches the most fundamental Rule on these Boards.

What?  That you advertised your "Board"  via "everywhere" and some people actually know how to check the validity of such Boards via the Government system? Just in case .... you understand?


Why do you PRETEND that you have numerous "real names"? It's ILLEGAL you know.  ;D ;D

https://www.afp.gov.au/what-we-do/crime-types/fraud/identity-crime

No, I will not leave BO 'out of this.'  My informant fingered both of you, and was anxious about my safety....which is why they tipped me off.


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some people actually know how to check the validity of such Boards via the Government system? Just in case .... you understand?

Rubbish.  Nothing to do with Government at all.  But, the point is....why did you bother stalking, and then gloatingly post the harvest of your endeavours?

>:(

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why did you bother stalking, and then gloatingly post the harvest of your endeavours?

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 6:21pm:

No, I will not leave BO 'out of this.'  My informant fingered both of you, and was anxious about my safety....which is why they tipped me off. Quote: some people actually know how to check the validity of such Boards via the Government system? Just in case .... you understand? Rubbish.  Nothing to do with Government at all.  But, the point is....why did you bother stalking, and then gloatingly post the harvest of your endeavours? >:(

Pathetic response.

You must know as everybody else does, that when you set up a Forum, they ask for "name, address and phone number", plus an email address. This is PUBLIC INFORMATION.  Under Government Rules.

Neferti wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 6:40pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 6:21pm: No, I will not leave BO 'out of this.'  My informant fingered both of you, and was anxious about my safety....which is why they tipped me off. Quote: some people actually know how to check the validity of such Boards via the Government system? Just in case .... you understand? Rubbish.  Nothing to do with Government at all.  But, the point is....why did you bother stalking, and then gloatingly post the harvest of your endeavours? >:( Pathetic response. You must know as everybody else does, that when you set up a Forum, they ask for "name, address and phone number", plus an email address. This is PUBLIC INFORMATION.  Under Government Rules.

Cite the Legislation.

Why did you bother stalking, and then gloatingly post the harvest of your endeavours?

How come you have not done the very same here with Effendi?

Hmm?

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 6:43pm:

Neferti wrote on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 6:40pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 6:21pm: No, I will not leave BO 'out of this.'  My informant fingered both of you, and was anxious about my safety....which is why they tipped me off. Quote: some people actually know how to check the validity of such Boards via the Government system? Just in case .... you understand? Rubbish.  Nothing to do with Government at all.  But, the point is....why did you bother stalking, and then gloatingly post the harvest of your endeavours? >:( Pathetic response. You must know as everybody else does, that when you set up a Forum, they ask for "name, address and phone number", plus an email address. This is PUBLIC INFORMATION. Under Government Rules. Cite the Legislation. Why did you bother stalking, and gloatingly post the harvest of your endeavours? How come you have not done the very same here with Effendi? Hmm?

Cite the legislation yourself or get Alinta to find it for you. 

FYI... People such as you who USE a variety of personas are, obviously, non persona grata, everywhere.

Who is this "Effendi" person I should check out?

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Cite the legislation yourself or get Alinta to find it for you.

No.  You made the claim.  You back it up


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FYI... People such as you who USE a variety of personas are, obviously, non persona grata, everywhere.

Is your real name...Neferti?


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Who is this "Effendi" person I should check out?

If you reckon what you did with 'me' was fine.....how about doing exactly the same stalk on the owner of OzPol.....and then post the results.

Hmmm?

:)

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I have never tried to contact him again, even though I know his current phone number

Speaking of stalking.
How would you know his current phone number given he claims it is seven years ago you contacted him last when he had to hang up on you?
Stalking much? He certainly didn't share it with you at any stage according to him.

mothra wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 4:46pm:

Black Orchid stalked me. To the point of creepy phone calls to children. Is that worth mentioning?

That is an absolute and abhorrent LIE!  Before making defamatory allegations it would pay to get your facts straight.

There is something seriously wrong with you which is apparent to the casual observer.  No wonder you have the signature that you do it is you to a tee.

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 6:58pm:

Is your real name...Neferti?

Yes it is.


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Who is this "Effendi" person I should check out?

Now you are being idiotic.

WHO is Effendi?

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 7:09pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 4:46pm: Black Orchid stalked me. To the point of creepy phone calls to children. Is that worth mentioning? That is an absolute and abhorrent LIE!  Before making defamatory allegations it would pay to get your facts straight. There is something seriously wrong with you which is apparent to the casual observer.  No wonder you have the signature that you do it is you to a tee.

BO I am not sure too many believe a word she says anymore....everything is bad and almost all lies...you are not alone when people have mentioned others at yahoo...    funny i have never heard anything about yourself.....its a good 10 years ago now that I was there.. but one or two over the years from yahoo remember me  I think its horrible you have to put up with stuff like this...if you a re going to come up with this type of abuse   at least have a link to it..... or plain shut up....shrug it off BO shes not worth being concerned about...... the way I see it

   her and aussie... it couldnt happen to a nicer couple.. ;) ;) ;)

mothra wrote on Jul 2^nd, 2017 at 5:06pm:

Back at yahoo, when i was still Mothra and Black Orchid was Ruminating1, she conspired with others to poet what was thought to be my full name,phone number and address all over the forum. The problem was it was the details of an innocent woman. Anyway, i contacted her and made friends with her. She told me that several different women called her house. At different times of the day and night. They called and spoke to her husband. They called and spoke to her children. Apparently they told the children they were "coming for mummy". Ruminating1 (Black Orchid) blamed Roogal. Roogal blamed Ruminating. All i know from my contact with the woman herself is that several different voices called. Black Orchid (Ruminating1) has it in for me in a significant way. Still. After all these years. And so it goes.

You are a disgusting person and an absolute LIAR!!

You should seek psychiatric help.  BTW I feel sorry for your offspring.  13 years ago your youngest was purportedly in nappies but today he is in Year 4.   

cods wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 7:09pm: mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 4:46pm: Black Orchid stalked me. To the point of creepy phone calls to children. Is that worth mentioning? That is an absolute and abhorrent LIE!  Before making defamatory allegations it would pay to get your facts straight. There is something seriously wrong with you which is apparent to the casual observer.  No wonder you have the signature that you do it is you to a tee. BO I am not sure too many believe a word she says anymore....everything is bad and almost all lies...you are not alone when people have mentioned others at yahoo...    funny i have never heard anything about yourself.....its a good 10 years ago now that I was there.. but one or two over the years from yahoo remember me  I think its horrible you have to put up with stuff like this...if you a re going to come up with this type of abuse   at least have a link to it..... or plain shut up....shrug it off BO shes not worth being concerned about...... the way I see it    her and aussie... it couldnt happen to a nicer couple.. ;) ;) ;)

She's not only negative, combative and full on aggressive.  She is a compulsive liar.   I feel sorry for her more than anything.   No wonder she spends so much time here.  She must have a very sad life, but that is absolutely no excuse for the way she behaves.

Black Orchid wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 7:09pm:

mothra wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 4:46pm: Black Orchid stalked me. To the point of creepy phone calls to children. Is that worth mentioning? That is an absolute and abhorrent LIE!  Before making defamatory allegations it would pay to get your facts straight. There is something seriously wrong with you which is apparent to the casual observer.  No wonder you have the signature that you do it is you to a tee.

Yet you stand by and do nothing when others do exactly that....even when they post the personal details of someone.

Off with this Sewer confected and conspired outrage.

Tell me, BO, why is 55.37 % of the Sewer hidden from public view?

What has been discussed there in secret over at least 7 hidden posts from 5.50 pm to now?

;D

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What has been discussed there in secret over at least 7 hidden posts from 5.50 pm to now?

Make that 12....all hidden.

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 7:48pm:

Quote: What has been discussed there in secret over at least 7 hidden posts from 5.50 pm to now? Make that 12....all hidden.

How little your dick is.
Nobody believes it could be smaller than your brain.

Mothra, Black Orchid, Neferti, Cods, Mantra, Lisa Jones, Emma....

You can all have my phone number and happily 'stalk' me.
Just PM me and all will be 'just fine'  ;)

I sorta know Emma a bit. Really a nice person.  :)

skippy. wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 7:50pm:

Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 7:48pm: Quote: What has been discussed there in secret over at least 7 hidden posts from 5.50 pm to now? Make that 12....all hidden. How little your dick is. Nobody believes it could be smaller than your brain.

I don't care what anyone believes.  I post facts...and there have now been at least 14 posts made there in secret.

I guess it was all about wedging Effendi in to deciding who ought be Head Sewer Person at the Sewer.  I'll be surprised but not stunned if he is silly enough to get involved.

How about giving me the deciding vote.....or Mattus....or *take your pick.*

Didn't you proudly say that you had read the Constitution and found a couple of solutions there?  Yes you did.

This shafting Effendi with the poisoned chalice is not mentioned there, skippeeeee.

8-)

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 8:01pm:

skippy. wrote on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 7:50pm: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 7:48pm: Quote: What has been discussed there in secret over at least 7 hidden posts from 5.50 pm to now? Make that 12....all hidden. How little your dick is. Nobody believes it could be smaller than your brain. I don't care what anyone believes.  I post facts...and there have now been at least 14 posts made there in secret. I guess it was all about wedging Effendi in to deciding who ought be Head Sewer Person at the Sewer.  I'll be surprised but not stunned if he is silly enough to get involved. How about giving me the deciding vote.....or Mattus....or *take your pick.* Didn't you proudly say that you had read the Constitution and found a couple of solutions there?  Yes you did. This shafting Effendi with the poisoned chalice is not mentioned there, skippeeeee. 8-)

Get knotted!  What happens at PA is none of your beeswax!  >:(

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 6:58pm:

Quote: Cite the legislation yourself or get Alinta to find it for you. No.  You made the claim.  You back it up [quote]FYI... People such as you who USE a variety of personas are, obviously, non persona grata, everywhere.

Is your real name...Neferti?


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Who is this "Effendi" person I should check out?

If you reckon what you did with 'me' was fine.....how about doing exactly the same stalk on the owner of OzPol.....and then post the results.

Hmmm?

:)

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Nappy?  Your answers are noticeably non existent.

Why is that?

Why have you not stalked the owner of OzPol as you did with 'me' and then post all his personal details as you did with 'me?'

Why, Nappy?

Would it be because you well know that if you did, your sorry arse would be out of here for a very long time?

8-)

Hi ladies!

Stalk me!
Stalk me!
Stalk me!

:D

Black Orchid.....you posted this at the Sewer, yes?


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Has anyone given the little dictator a call yet?

And this?


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The number listed is a mobile phone number 04XX X32 X54

I have X'd the number.

Has any other Yahoo Member also claimed you were a Poster called Ruminating?

Have a look at what you posted in what you thought was secret from me in July, 2015.

>:(

Give up Aussie

I've scared them off  ;)

;D

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Has any other Yahoo Member also claimed you were a Poster called Ruminating?

I wasn't a member of Yahoo so didn't have a clue who anyone was, but I do remember two ex Yahoo members talking a fair bit about a Ruminating and Roogal who made life a misery for them over on Yahoo.

Then again - everyone from Yahoo appeared to hate each other. It sounded like a vicious forum.

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 10:08pm:

Black Orchid.....you posted this at the Sewer, yes? Quote: Has anyone given the little dictator a call yet? And this? [quote]The number listed is a mobile phone number 04XX X32 X54

I have X'd the number.

Has any other Yahoo Member also claimed you were a Poster called Ruminating?

Have a look at what you posted in what you thought was secret from me in July, 2015.

>:(

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Mantra, you would have seen those two Posts made by BO at the Sewer.

Jasin wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2017 at 8:56pm:

Hi ladies! Stalk me! Stalk me! Stalk me! :D

????????????

:o  :o  :o

mantra wrote on Jul 4^th, 2017 at 11:42am:

Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 10:08pm: Has any other Yahoo Member also claimed you were a Poster called Ruminating? I wasn't a member of Yahoo so didn't have a clue who anyone was, but I do remember two ex Yahoo members talking a fair bit about a Ruminating and Roogal who made life a misery for them over on Yahoo. Then again - everyone from Yahoo appeared to hate each other. It sounded like a vicious forum.

What's all this about ??????

Over the years there was lots of private information posted publicly on PA, but by the time I knew about it - it had been XX'd out or deleted. I don't remember anything specifically from BO though. A couple of others were usually the culprits.

Lisa Jones wrote on Jul 4^th, 2017 at 1:41pm:

mantra wrote on Jul 4th, 2017 at 11:42am: Aussie wrote on Jul 3rd, 2017 at 10:08pm: Has any other Yahoo Member also claimed you were a Poster called Ruminating? I wasn't a member of Yahoo so didn't have a clue who anyone was, but I do remember two ex Yahoo members talking a fair bit about a Ruminating and Roogal who made life a misery for them over on Yahoo. Then again - everyone from Yahoo appeared to hate each other. It sounded like a vicious forum. What's all this about ??????

Aussie mentioned a character called Ruminating. I had heard some pretty nasty stuff about this person years ago, although I didn't have a clue who it was.