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Title: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:10pm
Hope nothing bad happens :(
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:38pm
You reminded me to make Anzac biscuits to take with me to Naracoorte on tuesday!
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:58pm Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:10pm:
Some Muslim nutcase will probably try something. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:00pm
It's a worry.
Lone Wolf. Packed pavements. A vehicle of some sort. A Muslim. "ALLAHU AKBAR!" People skittled. He's shot by the police. Turnbull announces it had nothing to do with Islam. Muslim immigration continues. Sad Kangaroo continues to promote a nihilist view of Australia's white Anglo/Celtic cultural heritage. Brian yawns. Aussie jumps in to say this thread has already been started elsewhere. Karnal says he's curious. Freediver and Gandalf continue with their eternal danse macabre. "plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"—"the more it changes, the more it's the same thing". |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:02pm
I'm going for a surf.
Muhammad don't surf. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:15pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:00pm:
Turnbull announces it had nothing to do with Islam. sounds about right. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:15pm Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:10pm:
A few blue blazers will get pissed down the Criterion. Not even. They're on the ponies these days. Back in my day I wiped the floor with those WWII pricks. Plenty of them wiped the floor with me too. Live and let live. If you want a blue, get one off the Mrs. Those old cnts are all in wheelchairs, anyway. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:18pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:15pm:
Hi Karnal - please tell us about your war stories - how you fought bravely on the front line in hand to hand combat. ( BigOl wants to know more ) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:19pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:15pm:
How about a bit of two up ;) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:20pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:18pm:
Karnal was in Raqqa? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:30pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:18pm:
Big Hole can step up and suck my cock. If he's any good, I might even wake up. The worst clowns are all those brassed-up boy scouts who hang around the old boys on ANZAC Day. They never saw a day's fighting in their spit and polished lives, but they goose around trying to look brave. I'll tell you this. When I did my time, my best fighting was done out of uniform. I was just back in Nam. The place has changed a bit, but you can still get a cheap blowjob on Pham Ngu Lao. Some thing's never change. The ponies, the poonses and the pros. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:39pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:30pm:
Good - I'll tell him that in the Sparta room. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:43pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:39pm:
Get him to show you his RAAF medal. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:45pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:43pm:
BigOl reckons he's very brave. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:58pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:45pm:
Bloody oath. They even gave him a medal with a dog's lipstick on it. He should pucker up a bit more. We had drag acts like Big Hole in Nam. Hysterical, but those broads took themselves most seriously. They could fight too. The irony is, if Big Hole gave into his overwhelming desires, he'd become a much tougher man than he is today. I'll tell you this much, son. It's not the war that makes men, it's what happens off the field. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:02pm
Karnal, weren't skaff and his mate partial to a bit of 2 up?
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:06pm Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:02pm:
Everyone's welcome to play two-up on ANZAC Day, son. It's the one day of the year. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:07pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:58pm:
I'll tell him that - LOL |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:14pm
But Karnal - I was really looking for that knock out story of your brave war deeds e.g.
You got out of the trench & charged towards the enemy machine gun nest. All the bullets missed you & you lobbed a grenade into the machine gun nest & took out the enemy gunner. You then proceeded to bayonet the remaining enemies in had to hand brutal combat. You then received a hero's war medal. Something like that? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:16pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:14pm:
Watch an ISIS video. Karnal is in a few of them. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:25pm
Every Year...here we go again, and I'll bet I read absolutely nothing not posted here every year a zillion times.
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:29pm
Karnal could get a job protecting ships from Somali pirates:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpNpDM-enLw |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:31pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:29pm:
And their rape culture? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:40pm Gordon wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:31pm:
I'd enjoy that job. ;D The pirates think they're gunna have a good day robbing a ship & that happens. ;D |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:53pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:14pm:
Pipe down, girlie. War's sh1t. You get out alive - if you can. Some good boys didn't. So when I sit down and have a beer in ANZAC Day, I'll remember that. I've spent most of my life forgetting the rest. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:57pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:53pm:
Karnal - you're a true war hero - & I ain't no girly. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:03am Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:29pm:
Been there, done that. Aleseson Lines, Zamboanga to Sandakan. I kept the flies off Captain Orello. Money for jam. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:05am Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:57pm:
Take it as praise, son. Boys who learn to do that become men. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by davo on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:31am Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:53pm:
Thats interesting Karnal my grandfathers both served in ww2 one in PNG the other in Tobruk neither returned wanting to to talk about it |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:33am
There's nothing like being in an actual war to turn you of the whole thing.
At least, i imagine that to be the case. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Setanta on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:41am
I only ever got one story out of my old man about Korea. He was a 1rar engineer. It was about how many bloated bodies floated down the river and piled up against their pontoon bridge, he had to clear them out before they wrecked the bridge. "Grab them by the arm, their arm came off, by the hair their scalp came off" etc etc. "We ended up having to gut them with bayonets to try and make them sink and the smell was..."
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:45am Setanta wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:41am:
Jesus. How are you ok after living through that? Why do we expect our Vets to be ok? I suppose at least these days we recognise PTSD but we don't do enough by a long shot in helping people get through stuff like that. And families suffer. There is a legacy. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Rhino on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:47am Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:29pm:
Yeah, he/she could play roger the cabin boy. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by davo on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:48am mothra wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:33am:
Indeed mothra my father was a very loving man but a harsh man the stories he told me when my grandfather returned were very disturbing the saying war is hell is very true |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:58am oh dear wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:48am:
With the grace of the gods, my only understanding of war comes through books, film and what little i have been told by people who have experienced it's effects. It's enough to trigger tremendous empathy, but as i said, no real understanding. As a pacifist, i shudder to think of how returning service-folk were treated by anti-war activists in the Vietnam era. Best of intentions gone absolutely balls up. Imagine coming home after that to be called a baby killer? Not me. I have great respect for people who have lived through that. I may not agree with the reasons for the war but my issue is with blokes behind desks ... not the poor people that were in the thick of it. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:56am Setanta wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:41am:
terrible memories to have..god awful.....my memories are after the War walking through bombsites to get to school..as you can guess London had many bombsites...my mum was in a building that was hit by a doodlebug...lucky for her she was on the other side from where it landed.......I remember sitting in shelters...very quite waiting for the sirens funny what remains with you.. your poor dad.. would have been so traumatised... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ajax on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:19am
How about we stop living in fear and hatred and start celebrating the sacrifice of the young men and women that formed the Anzacs, so that we may enjoy this life of freedom today.... 8-)
http://www.kythera-family.net/download/Greek-Australian_Alliance_115YearsBooklet.pdf |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:51am Ajax wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:19am:
I think the majority of aussie do just that.. one or two display their bad manners in public but most are full of pride...and its great to see the returned soldiers feted.... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:09pm Jovial Monk wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:38pm:
You live down that way? Moved up from the Bega Valley last year.... similar climate I think... windy... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:13pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:14pm:
Nah - that was 'Greasy' Jones.... 1RAR.... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:17pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:40pm:
Nice belt of .50 cal on the wing bridge never hurt nobody.... I notice he was firing wide - at first... pity nobody had a grenade at the moment the boat drew alongside... oops.. dearie me - did I drop that? Sorry 'bout that.... send an insurance quote. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:37pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:17pm:
Apparently they fired warning shots first but the pirates shot back so they killed them. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:40pm
less black idiots to come here under refugee program ;)
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:50pm oh dear wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:31am:
Interesting how karnal loves to talk about killing and his heroic deeds, and he definitely has booby on 'the peg'. https://www.anzmi.net/ |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:52pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:50pm:
BigOl, Karnal fought in the jungles of Vietnam - what's your claim to fame? How many medals can you wear on ANZAC day? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:54pm
Give it a rest with the pissing contest, guys.
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:55pm BigOl, Karnal fought in the jungles of Vietnam - what's your claim to fame? How many medals can you wear on ANZAC day? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 6:48pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:55pm:
Now, now booby no need to get upset. We don't think of karnal that way |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 6:55pm
OK BigOl - so you don't have any medals like Karnal -
so you resort to ridicule. you are forgiven namaste |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:01pm
bobby I dont think taking potshots at men who may or may not have service records is a nice thing to do..
if you have a row of medals good on you tell us about them'''but dont put down others...its tacky and not nice....and of course it draws a response...that also isnt nice.. but you are treading on hallowed ground... may I suggest you SHUT UP! its just a thought.. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:11pm
Anzac Day travellers to Turkey and France warned to ‘take care’
Veterans Affairs Minister Dan Tehan has urged Australians travelling to Turkey, France or Belgium for Anzac Day services to “take care”, as the number of visitors to Gallipoli substantially declines. Amid warnings from the Turnbull government that terrorists “may seek to target” commemorations on the Gallipoli peninsula, the latest Department of Veterans’ Affairs figures reveal just 640 people are registered to attend the commemoration. That is almost half of last year’s 1224 attendees and down from the 10,043 who were at the peninsula for the centenary commemorations in 2015. A steady stream of between 7000 and 4400 visitors were in Gallipoli for Anzac Day services between 2010 and 2014. “My hope is that the security situation in Turkey will improve so we can see the numbers rise again — I know that’s also the wish of the Turkish government,” Mr Tehan, who will be at Villers-Bretonneux in France on Tuesday, told The Weekend Australian. “We have to recognise the focus has turned to the Western Front and will again next year. “We have to recall that this year, 100 years ago, more Australians lost their lives to war than we’ve ever lost in our history. “It was a dark year.” Mr Tehan said Australian officials were meeting Turkish authorities on a daily basis in the lead-up to Anzac Day to ensure all security arrangements were in place. Travelling Australians should continue to check the Department of Foreign Affairs’ travel advisory and “also ensure to stay up to date with any news coming out of Turkey”. “For those who do decide to travel the service at Gallipoli, it is an incredibly moving event,’’ Mr Tehan said http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/defence/anzac-day-travellers-to-turkey-and-france-warned-to-take-care/news-story/9b40c74fda6415b711fb96cedd0554b2 |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:23pm cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:01pm:
You're right Cods, all service for Australia is valuable even if you never received a medal. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:27pm Gordon wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:11pm:
"Just who the hell is Private First Class Politician Dan Tehan?" "Government Retirement Package Security Company, Liberal, sir!" "Well it seems that young Dan is an Australian Member of Parliament, yet he can't run his mouth from here to there without falling down.... not only that but young Daniel doesn't seem to like our annual pilgrimage to Shangri-La.. so much so that he's written seven letters to various editors suggesting Diggers not go there this year!" (apologies to A Few Good Men and Jack).... Wonder if all the high-falutin' sheilas running the programing at TV stations these day will allow the showing of some war movies, or if we'll have to be content with re-runs of My Kitchen rules or Survivor, saying war movies are too beastly and are a reflection of the patriarchy or whatever these days and might warp little kid's minds (Jesus - MKR DOESN'T??).. Wouldn't mind Battle of Britain... full of nice airy planes.... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:31pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:27pm:
Dan Tehan, HE'S IN MORE DIRE NEED OF A BLOWJOB THAN ANY WHITE MAN IN HISTORY. (apologies to Good Morning Vietnam and Robin) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:33pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:27pm:
SBS silly pants. Last Friday was Saving Private Ryan and last night was Zero Dark Thirty. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:42pm
Watched Zero Dark Thirty... knew the story already, picked the faults in the op portrayed - not terribly realistic .... buggar....
Gotta watch out for SBS over weekends - they might play Shaving Ryan's Privates and other porn... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:43pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Sure but oh god it's a fun romp of a movie. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:45pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Did you mean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm-Od5pBCsQ |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:02pm
I'm watching free NRL broadcast from Pomlandia online...
http://live.robinwidget.org/streamvideo8/cronulla-sharks-vs-gold-coast-titans-live-stream-193162.html |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:01pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 7:23pm:
See, listen to Cods, she is a lot smarter than you. Remember this, just about everyone who serves has more medals than you. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Baronvonrort on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:08pm
Albert Jacka was the first Aussie to be given a Victoria Cross.
At Gallipoli and on the Western front he showed tremendous bravery. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Jacka |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:02pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:52pm:
Come on, son, Big Mole got his five year "service" medal for having a nine to five job in the RAAF, polishing planes. He'll be marching this year with all the rest. What a phoney. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:09pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:02pm:
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:13pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:09pm:
Nah Karnsl is more of an ISIS supporter. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:14pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 6:48pm:
Hey, Hole, that's not Bobby in the black hat. That's you, love. You want a wank while I do you? No worries. Be a soldier. Do it yourself. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:17pm Gordon wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:13pm:
Yeah. Lose weight now, ask me how. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:17pm Gordon wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:13pm:
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:26pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:17pm:
I could ride my donkey up the M4 to your mum's housing commission place and show you how to take one for Australia. They sure showed me. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:33pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:26pm:
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:40pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 2:26pm:
Sounds good but keep going until you get to the Lighthorse Interchange so I can snipe you with my great grandads 303 |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:04pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:01pm:
I find it very sad people are judged by the medals they receive.... pretty shallow bobby...you put emphasis on decorations instead of valor.... just read in the d/tele about a young man who was badly injured in Afghanistan all he wants is a fair go from the DVA and all he is doing is fighting fighting bureaucracy .. I was so ashamed to read that he is probably in the hands of people who have never gone to war or even been in uniform.... bobby more goes on with our Vets than just going to war.. I am afraid.. >:( |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by The Mechanic on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:24pm
utterly disgraceful behaviour by a few on here...
and as with every year.. those who have never served and never will.. so to try and make themselves feel better about their own failures they take pot shots ::) at those who have put their lives on the line by serving in the Defence Forces... piss weak... >:( |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by The Mechanic on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:25pm |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:36pm
I intend on going over to the Dawn Service at the Botanical Gardens for the first time this year. Missed last year's ANZAC Day. Think it is time to go.
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:39pm
Gawd, we recycle the same old same old every year. Can anyone bung up a link to Credlin's article in today's papers? I can't get past a paywall.
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:41pm Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:39pm:
NO. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by The Mechanic on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:43pm Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:39pm:
what was the article called? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:46pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:43pm:
"Best of us died on Anzac Day." |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Vic on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:49pm
Marching in Cairns this year. Nearly got stuck on Thursday Island - although that would have been an interesting place to commemorate Anzac Day!
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by The Mechanic on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:53pm
this one?
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:57pm Vic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:49pm:
Good on you Vic. Thank you. We get up for the dawn service. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:11pm
That's it Mechanic, and as I do every Anzac Day, on behalf of my Dad and his Uncle, I spit on this absolute garbage.
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It is bullshit, romanticises, even worse, politicises naked practicality and little option, voyeuristically and artificially imputing some notion of nationalistic dutifull, sabre rattling grandeur which simply never occurred to any of them, just like it would have been the last thing on my mind (nay.....never would have even crossed my mind) had I been conscripted for Vietnam. Far cough with that crap. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 7:53pm cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:04pm:
The Department of Veterans' Affairs has treated many returned servicemen shamefully. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:16pm
:-X
President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:24pm:
And here's the other old blowhard, Colenel Kvnt. He voted in the recent Dutch elections. Good on you for serving your country, old son. Big Mole polished missiles. What do they say in Dutch? Mjiam mjiam, isn't it? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:19pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:16pm:
Dear Karnal, how many medals can you pin on the front of your jacket ( or dress) ? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:20pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:19pm:
Burka. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:21pm
Did Karnal get a campaign medal for her part in the Hyde Park riot? The Medal of Allah?
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:22pm Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:46pm:
Come on, son. We've still got Big Hole and the Mechanic. We'll need someone to push their wheelchairs in this year's parade. Any takers? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:23pm Gordon wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Karnal fought in jungles of Vietnam against communism so that we could all be free. Have some respect on Anzac day. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:24pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:19pm:
It's what you've got down your pants that counts, boy. Just ask Cods. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:29pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:23pm:
Get your own smacking freedom. I fought hard enough for mine. I lost most of my battles too, just like the ANZACs. Aussie Aussie Aussie, eh? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:31pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:22pm:
But aren't you a LOT older than we are? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:32pm Gordon wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:20pm:
Gordon's punching above his weight in this round. Stealing Homo's gags. Good on you, Gordon. Ever think of joining the Mounties? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:34pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:31pm:
No, son, I'm a LOT bloody younger. You two were using Grecian 2000 when you were in nappies. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:36pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:32pm:
I lived longer in the USA than Canadia. 1 2 3 4 I love Marine Corps |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:30pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:34pm:
Really, I thought you not only served in the army as a training killer, but fought in Viet Nam. Since my age is not too hard to work out, it seem your lie of of military service is pretty much exposed. Looks like you spent as much time fighting in Viet Nam as trump., fkken loser. ;D ;D ;D ;D Bobby will be upset that his love is nothing more that a lying piece of sh1t military wannabe. Eventually you fkkheads all get caught, |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:37pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:30pm:
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by The Mechanic on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:42pm
this is why I rarely an answer Karnel ..
a man hiding behind a womans handle pretending "ITS" a war hero.. reality... life long dole bludger never worked a day in "ITS" life... ::) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:50pm
BigOl,
you're just jealous that Karnal fought on the front lines in the jungles of Vietnam & has many medals to pin on his vest. forgiven namaste |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:57pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:50pm:
Considering I was only 8 years old when the Viet Nam war ended and he has stated he is a "LOT" younger than me, how do you explain that booby? I get that you are incredibly gullible and dumb as a bag of hammers, but have a go at explaining how that is the case, genius. He may have gone to Viet Nam, but not as an Australian soldier and he does have a lot of homosexual rape fantasies, so I can see your attraction to him. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:59pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:57pm:
BigHole, If that's true then Karnal owes us all a giant apology. Don't shoot me for being the messenger. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:00pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:42pm:
It has to be the dumbest move by a civilian imposter Ive seen so far, fkk him and that little PoS booby. Those two fkkers are in my sights now. >:( >:( >:( |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:04pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:59pm:
You are an abusive little sh1t and you demeaned my and everyone's service by demanding fkking a medal count you piece of sh1t. Claiming to be a cretin will not get you out of this one. >:( |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:06pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:04pm:
forgiven for threatening behaviour in Christ's light namaste |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:07pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:06pm:
I NEVER fkken forgive. Watch your back. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:10pm
It's what you've got down your pants that counts, boy.
Just ask Cods leave me out of this sleaze thank you...I find you all disgusting.. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:11pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:07pm:
Get thee back in the queue, Big'Ol. It seems many are watching Bobby's back for some reason or other. Take a number please. ;D |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:15pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:07pm:
Christ taught us to forgive. Without forgiveness none of should see salvation. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:17pm Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:11pm:
Karnal is an obvious abusive imposter and that arse clown was hanging off him like he was the last VC recipient, neither of them deserve to be here. I didn't but up with that sh1t during my service and I won't now. :) :) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:22pm
BigOl,
I am inclined to believe more in master Light's service to his nation than any of you here. Master Light was also in the army - you're not the only hero here buddy. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:26pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:22pm:
There is only one person who wants to be referred to as a "hero" and it is neither myself or wharfy. Just goes to prove how little you know about people who actually serve this country, you fkken dolt. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:26pm
Bobby, if you were on patrol in the jungles of Vietnam, which Ozpol member would you prefer to have your 6?
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:27pm Gordon wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:26pm:
What does "have your 6" mean? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:28pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:27pm:
Watching your back. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:32pm Gordon wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:28pm:
master Light would be the only one I trusted. Karnal wears dresses - how could I trust a man like that? BigOl wants to kill me so I couldn't trust him. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:35pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:32pm:
What about Greg? You two could pair up as warriors, Spartan style. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:36pm Gordon wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:35pm:
Greggy - no way - he's OK as long as he's at least 100 miles away from me. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:01am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:42pm:
The Mechanic's on fire tonight. Never worked a day in its life. Not bad for a blue-rinsed old toilet-sniffer. I'd make you get down and give me twenty, boy, but you'd croak it on me. Can't have that in today's army, now can we? Not for you immigrants, anyway. You kvnts are a protected species. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:09am BigOl64 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 10:57pm:
I'll always have you, Hole. Don't blame me if it hurts. Remember, it hurts you a lot more than it hurts me, boy. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:13am BigOl64 wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:26pm:
Where'd you serve your country, Mole? That's right. Brisbane. Happy ANZAC Day, son. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:02am
Only 24 hours to go..... rain predicted, and unless I miss my guess.. I hear something outside now.
Nope - it's the buzzing in my ears. Peace, brothers - this argument |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 24th, 2017 at 12:54pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:13am:
If you are going to continue to be a grub piece of sh1t impersonator; we actual servicemen & women don't say "happy" ANZAC Day you fukken dolt. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 24th, 2017 at 1:04pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 12:54pm:
Oh, I know. Have a great day, son. Take it easy. Get the grandkids to suck your cock. You've earned it, serviceman. You gave up so much so that Nam chumps like me can live in freedom. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 24th, 2017 at 1:17pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 1:04pm:
It seems you don't know otherwise you would not have said it; a lot of impostors make those sort of mistakes. You haven't explained how you are lot younger than me and that you fought in the Viet Nam War and the fact I was only 8 years old when it ended. Those little facts are important when your lying to actual servicemen and women, |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 24th, 2017 at 1:18pm
Does fighting for al Qaeda count?
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 24th, 2017 at 1:22pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 1:18pm:
If it did we would triple the amount of 'Australian' muslims entitled to march tomorrow, |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2017 at 1:22pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 1:04pm:
I am reporting this. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:57pm
Any Vietnam Vet is gonna get quite angry at being called an imposter, Cods. It is the worst accusation (after cowardice/treason) which can be levelled at an ex ADF person. Big Ol' knows that.
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:05pm Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:57pm:
Not if he is an actual imposter it isn't. He has been caught in his lie and now he is going to pay for all the abuse he has handed out to the actual ex-servicemen here. Put it this way if this site handed over his details I would be reporting him to the Federal Police and ANZMI for investigation. This clown has never served a day in his life and now he is done. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:05pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 1:22pm:
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:09pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:05pm:
thats not the reason I reported him.. the rudeness and vulgarity in this place is getting worse by the day...but I feel this thread in particular needs a little more respect.. I am disgusted with what karnal said it went too far by a long shot so from now on when I see this awful disgusting language I will be reporting it.... if we dont complain it will just get worse. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:13pm
Interesting you take high ground here about that, yet you wallow in it elsewhere.
I agree that Karnal went too far, but there was significant provocation....assuming he is a Vietnam Vet, and I have seen nothing which suggests he is an imposter. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:16pm Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
again you do not have a clue what your talking about.... nothing unusual about that is there?. >:( it was his comment regarding grandsons that sickened me., >:( >:( >:( >:( |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:20pm cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:09pm:
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Vic on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:25pm
The RSL organisations in some states iare in big trouble. Apart from allegations of money laundering, misuse of funds, abuse of power and many other alleged improprieties, it has taken the shine right offthis years commemorations, with many veterans, servicemen , ex servicemen and families refusing to march.
Anzac Day and the appeal raise a lot of funds to help support our servicemen and ex servicemen so I sincerely hope this year will be no different. Whilst it appears the top level of the RSL organisation needs a clean out, it's the poor buggers who depend upon n their services that we need to think of |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:26pm cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:16pm:
And what, pray tell, do you think I was referring to when I said that I agree...Karnal went too far? And do you deny you are surrounded by similar posts and poster elsewhere. Heck, there, you even sought special permission to copy cat some of the crap and ring it here! |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:28pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:20pm:
really!!!!! dont like dont read. I told karmal what I was doing and didnt ask for your support.. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:28pm
Claims Karnal has made
Grew up in Dover Heights and had a white maid Related to William Arnott and biscuit is named after her grandmother Works in the govt dpt which collects stats on child marriage Hands out Korans to the homeless at central station Now he was also in the battle of Long Tan? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:29pm cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:35pm Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:57pm:
Normie Rowe sure didn't like it; must have affected his album sales. ;) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:39pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:35pm:
I can't recall that. I know there was some controversy about his marble dropping him into conscription. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:45pm Gordon wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:28pm:
I dont have a problem with that.. this is fantasy land and what harm does it do..its sad but harmless....being obscene is something else again. >:( |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:46pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:35pm:
he was one of the vets that had pigs blood thrown on him when they returned....it was pretty disgraceful the way Vietnam war vets were welcomed back...just a blot on our copybook I guess... lets hope we never sink to that level again. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:02pm Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:39pm:
Yeas, here it is. Holt manipulated it. Pathetic arsehole. Link. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:05pm Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
It is a lot easier for ex-servicemen to spot the imposter, by their mannerisms and behaviours than it is for a civilian. His big problem was claiming that he was a lot younger than myself and also claiming he fought in Viet Nam, I like a lot of people have my year of birth as part of my nick, I have also confirmed my service was during the 80s & 90, not the 50s & 60s. So, how does he serve in Viet Nam and manages to be younger than a person who was 8 years old when that war ended? He fkken doesn't. >:( >:( All of these lying pricks get caught out sooner or later. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:08pm
Normie Rowe might have been a good fighter in Vietnam but Ron (Won) Casey managed to show him up in a bit of a punch up on TV
https://youtu.be/G5MUM_s02r8 |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:26pm cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 3:46pm:
Really? You have evidence to support that assertion, Cods? Normie Rowe as far as I am aware has never mentioned that. He was treated like most Nashos - when he returned from Vietnam he was out on the streets in civvie clothes within 24 hours. Only when a unit was embarking for it's tour of South Vietnam was there any parade to honour the event. No way, was Rowe in a parade when they returned. Quote:
I agree. We also need to tell the truth, Cods, not myths about what happened and why it happened. Our troops performed well, our politicians did not. ::) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:36pm Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Something about the dates on that don't gell, Aussie. Rowe was born in 1947. He was called up, at age 21, in 1968. That is after Holt was dead in 1967. Rowe served 1968-69 (one year training, one year in Vietnam followed by three years CMF). Apart from the age problem - Conscription was only for 20 year olds - Holt was long gone before Rowe was called up. Someone manipulated it, I don't think Holt can take the blame though. I doubt Holt cared if Rowe served or not. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by issuevoter on Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:50pm
What Harold Holt can take the blame for, is being so unworldly as to suggest he wanted to go "All the way with LBJ." We youngsters at the time knew exactly what that meant in the USA, and how there would be some sniggering in the White House. But the Liberal-C*unt-ry Party had their minds permanently bogged in 1930s. They had all the style of George Wallace of Alabama. Although I was technically eligible, I made damn sure I wasn't getting my arse shot off for those c==ts.
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:13pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:36pm:
Pretty well covered on the face of it! Tsk Tsk! ;D |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:21pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:36pm:
Okay, so that means the source is crap, and I doubt that. It is fact that Rowe went in yet others born on the same day he was, did not. That would piss me off. The timing is tight. Holt may have put this in place not knowing that Submarine was gonna pick him up off Cheviott (sp) Beach. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Neferti on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:52pm
National Service should be re-introduced. A year or so in Army would soon sort out the chaff from the straw. Girls included.
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:07pm Neferti wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
I have never been a fan of the ADF being a dumping ground for society's dregs. Those who volunteer are still hard bastards, but I don't see a lot of benefit in dragging the lazy and the stupid through the system for a couple of years. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:13pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:07pm:
After the Vietnam experience, the decision was made that an all-volunteer force was needed. Even in WW II it was the all-volunteer units that performed best. National service has its merits in teaching some basics to a large number who may then be called upon in an emergency, but is costly to run and a drain on trained and experienced personnel. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:22pm Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:21pm:
I've had this argument before - an entire graduating medicine class at Melbourne University were called up - coincidence? I don't think so - and it is no coincidence that many were called up on the basis of their occupation. The greatest insult to Normie Rowe was when he approached DVA for assistance with issues and was told he was only a performer, wasn't he? He served with an old mate of mine. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:25pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:36pm:
A postponement could be obtained for study etc... not sure where Normie fits in there... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:27pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:26pm:
well I for one have always been proud of our service men and women and that goes for overseas ones as well...we have no idea what they see or have to do...so they have all my admiration.... about the pollies... well thats another story for another day.. ::) ::) I dont care if a man spent the war peeling potatoes he was an important part of something I was not a part off.........I wish we looked out for them more when they come home. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:28pm
I will be honest brian.. I would seriously talk any of my grandkids out of joining up....
after what I read some of our vets go through after they do tours of duty..... its disgraceful.. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Neferti on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:44pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:07pm:
Wasn't there something called "Cadets" at High School level once upon a time? Discipline? Learning to take Orders and so forth? These days, teenagers reckon that they can get away with everything .... they NEED discipline and their parents aren't allowed to give it to them (or they will be reported). Kids NEED DISCIPLINE ... even a few hours a week, at school, might instill SOMETHING in their small minds. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 24th, 2017 at 8:02pm Neferti wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
There still is the Cadets, and I have no probs with that, just not having the dregs dumped onto the ADF to look after. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Agnes on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:17pm
OK guys..hope you are all ready with your AK 47s and your spuds at the ready to strike tomorrow morning at the crack of sparrows..shoot anything that moves and that's an order. 8-) ::)
Bobby --- DUCK!!!!! Any abuse directed at me just look at my sig and choose your words carefully. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:30pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
Conscription is only useful in an existential crisis such as occurred in WWII. The conscripts in WWII perform as well as, and in some cases better than their companion AIF units. 39 Battalion at Kokoda and Battle of the Bridgeheads springs to mind, while 48 Battalion was the most awarded unit in the Australian Army. To claim that Conscripts performed badly is not true. As for what happened after Vietnam, the Army got what it wanted - a professional force and it sidelined the CMF/ARes, only for it to discover that it needed the "stretch" that the trained diggers from the ARes gave to them when times got tough and their commitments many and varied, ranging from East Timor through The Solomons and thence to Afghanistan and Iraq. The Politicians became frightened at the division they perceived in Australian society that Conscription had brought about. They didn't understand that it wasn't Conscription, as such which caused the division but the serving of Conscripts overseas in South Vietnam. The Australian public supported Conscription in poll after poll during the 1960s, it was the overseas service which divided them. So they gave the Army want it had wanted since before WWII - a professional military force. Before then, Australia had relied upon a volunteer force, backed by a citiziens' militia. That worked adequately, although strained, by the evens of the Western Front in WWI. WWII experience was that the concept needed reorganisation and reinforcement. Korea was all volunteers, Vietnam proved that Conscripts were as good as Regulars. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:35pm Neferti wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:44pm:
"Discipline" does not require physical punishment, Neferti. Parents are allowed to discipline their children, they are not allowed to beat them. Beating a child is subjecting them to unnecessary abuse. Cadets provided a disciplined environment but apart from that, their value to the military was minimal, as the various Government reports on the matter in the early 1970s showed. That was why they were discontinued. They were reinstituted in the mid-1970s and then discontinued again. In the mid-1980s they were reinstituted again but more on the basis of community than schools. Their emphasis also changed from military training to more "Boy Scouts" type stuff. Cadets cannot and even back in the days of the old school system, could not be beaten. Discipline was instituted through spoken words and punishments, not physical striking. Cadets were subject to the same military law as adults (with modifications). |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:38pm Agnes wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:17pm:
Brave men like me don't duck - they charge towards the enemy. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Agnes on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:42pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:38pm:
With all your medals pinned to your full metal jacket Bobby and your Victoria cross protecting your heart..to deflect bullets/spuds you understand. 8-) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:43pm cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:27pm:
Could not agree more, Cods. PTSD is a hidden enemy. Personally, I put a great deal of the suffering our service people suffer from after their tours of duty are because of the lack of "adjustment time" they are afforded. In WWI and WWII and Korea, they had months after the fighting stopped to come back to earth, before reaching home. Some failed to adjust but the majority did. Today, they are back in hours and expected to perform as normal people, despite what they have experienced. The military throws them out like confetti and makes little effort to care for them. cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:28pm:
I will not allow any of my children to serve until the services clean up their acts WRT abuse and mistreatment of their own members. It is IMO a disgrace which senior officers should be Court Martialled for and punished if found guilty of neglecting their responsibilities to their juniors. In the 30 years since I left the Army, the attitude has changed markedly and for the worse IMO. Women in particular are mistreated badly. Such things I now know happened in my day but they were not as common as they appear to be today. :( |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:43pm
A keyboard warrior is Sir Booby de Louse :D :D :D
He can’t even defend the stupid videos he posts in the Environment board. Then again, they are 100% rubbish. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Agnes on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:52pm
In all seriousness this is beautiful...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhdFe3evXpk These mist covered mountains Are a home now for me But my home is the lowlands And always will be Someday you'll return to Your valleys and your farms And you'll no longer burn to be Brothers in arms Through these fields of destruction Baptisms of fire I've witnessed your suffering As the battle raged higher And though they did hurt me so bad In the fear and alarm You did not desert me My brothers in arms There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones Now the sun's gone to hell and The moon's riding high Let me bid you farewell Every man has to die But it's written in the starlight And every line in your palm We are fools to make war On our brothers in arm |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:53pm Agnes wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:42pm:
I even have a war face - arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQAXX08A-s |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:04pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:43pm:
hey we agree thats cool! |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:14pm Quote:
That is the first time I have read of a possible and credible explanation as to why my Old Man and his Mates seemed to have no problems like the Vietnam blokes obviously did on their return to Australia and demobilisation. It is true. The WW2 fellas were overseas.....had time to relax when the announcment was made that the Japs had surrendered.....had time to soak up, and bludge where they were until they could be on some ship to bring them home. It was not overnight. It was not getting your arse lit up on Sunday night and back home in Australia on Monday morning. The other nasty bit is that the WW2 fellas at least had a win under their belt. The Vietnam blokes were home 'overnight,' took a shellacking and were on the defeated side. Has to be acknowledged as it is plain and simple fact. Excellent point, Mr Ross. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:21pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:43pm:
That's what I said..... my son still wanted to give it a go - didn't get into ADFA, so said he'd be a grunt - they said No - you're too smart.... daughter considered the one year hitch.. Dad quietly said to think carefully...last comment from boy was asking for some inside contact so he could get in - I said:- "It's not done that way with me. Totally on your own merit." |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:24pm
As to Cadets:
I am a pretty fit bloke and always was involved in sports. When I got to High School, they had Cadets and I was a natural to be among them. Nah. It was not to be. Dad put his normally very relaxed foot down and simply vetoed it...no room for discussion, no debate, no argument, no Cadets. End. "I had enough of doing the real thing, and no way are you going to go and be a play Soldier, forget it 'Aussie,' it is not happening." That was that. He never stopped me going to the Cadet annual High School Cadet camps with my lever action Winchester .22 and blanks to play Dick Heads with my Mates......and neither did the High School Cadet CO......'cause I was......well ....... the Big Kahuna Dick Head at the High School. (There ya go PAnimals.....decipher that.) ;D |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:27pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 10:30pm:
Whoa there - I didn't say the conscripts performed badly, but I was referring mainly to the WW II SLAM Marshall report on the US - in which he made it clear that the Airborne, Marines and Rangers, all volunteer units, were the best, and had 'go ahead'. To some extent that is true with Oz as well, with the initial enlistees performing outstandingly in the Middle East. No criticism of the conscripts or the Militia - all ended up absorbed into the AIF anyway. The US experience in Vietnam virtually compelled a return to a fully volunteer army, and I am well aware that our Nashos did very well. Don't jump so fast. I was essentially discussing elite units v conscript units..... I wasn't clear enough. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:33pm Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
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that makes a big difference Many WW1 vets had 'shell shock.' War is bad. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:38pm
I'm off to bed.. night.
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Brian Ross on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:26am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 11:27pm:
Yes, you weren't clear. I do hope you are aware that Marshall's findings are now considered highly suspect by most theoreticians because it is now realised he lied about what he had been told by the veterans he interviewed? ::) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:23pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 4:05pm:
What the fck's a "serviceman?" You're either a fighter or you're a hissy little screecher. It's fake Amerikan terms like serviceman that catch you out, son. I might be older than you in years, but you've been an humourless old soak since the day you were born. We fighters can spot an imposter a mile off. And yeah, I believe you polished missiles for the air force. Serviceman. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:27pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
Hi Karnal, do you have a war face? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQAXX08A-s |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Jovial Monk on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:31pm
Sir Booby the Louse does not have a war face, unless you count the sight of his bottom cleavage running running running away from the afray at the speed of light.
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Gordon on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:32pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:27pm:
I'll bet he's the kind of guy that would phuk a person in the ass and not even have the goddamn common courtesy to give him a reach-around! |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:32pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:27pm:
Kut the krap, Bat. I don't even have a weapon. I have to make do with my bare hands. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:33pm Gordon wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
That's a bit rude - you should have just watched the video & not quoted it. ;) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:18pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:23pm:
You are nothing, you fkking imposter. What the fkk do you thinf the 'S' in RSL stands for you low life wanna be You are found to be a nothing miore thabn a civvie liar trying to big note yourself to youyr fellow civiies, you fkken loser. ;D ;D ;D ;D You are all about raping children and old people you fkken sick scumbag! No need to cover up your lie, you''re fkken done here ;D ;D ;D ;D You might want to consider not a single ex-serviceman stood up for you while you were banned, and why would they. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:21pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 8:32pm:
Hi Karnal, So you know commando techniques? They taught you karate? Australia needs more soldiers like you. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:26pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Back on the peg, I see ;D ;D ;D ;D He was NEVER a soldier or any description, only in his and it seems your and mothra's imagination. karnal is a liar and an imposter and should be ashamed of himself for his treachery. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:29pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:26pm:
So would you meet up with Karnal at a bar & try some had to hand combat with him? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:43pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:29pm:
Why would I 'hand to hand combat' with a pathetic loser military imposter? I would laugh at the pathetic cvvvnt. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
That's not a nice thing to say to a returned serviceman. Apologise for the sake of peace on ANZAC day. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:54pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:47pm:
No need to apologise to an imposter, so Im good thanks. :) :) :) But you keep worshipping him like the pathetic little man-child you are. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:28pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:54pm:
BigOl, this is an anonymous forum - therefore you may be wrong & you could have really hurt a serviceman's feelings on ANZAC day. He might have lost mates in combat. Shame on you. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:46pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:18pm:
Hey Cods, here's one for you, love. A real charmer. If you don't want to report him, you might want to lift your skirt for a pair of nylon stockings. He's a serviceman. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:47pm Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
I have not hurt any ex-serviceman's feelings on ANZAC Day, as I would never do that in ANZAC day or any day for that matter. I have kicked the living sh1t out of a filthy low-life impostor and Im fine with that. :) :) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:53pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:46pm:
Life getting you down ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Being an imposter will do that to you. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:55pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
I might be a pathetic old cvvvnt these days, but in my time, I cleaned the floor with "servicemen" like you, son. I've learned that there's a time for peace, a time for war and a purpose for all things under heaven. Life is short. What have you learned? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Aussie on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:56pm
Especially this bit, cods.
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Okay by you? Where is your moral compass? Will you 'report' that? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:57pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:53pm:
One of your grandkids? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:00pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:55pm:
I learned very quickly that YOU are a pathetic wanna be impostor who belittles actual servicemen to make yourself look good to your fellow civilians. Notice how not one real ex-serviceman came to your side when I was flogging seven shade of sh1t out of you, there is a very good reason for that. ;D ;D ;D You sad fkk! Run along little man, you are done here. :) :) :) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:02pm Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:56pm:
He was the one making those sick statements not me. If his rape fantasies weren't central to nearly every sick post he made, there would not be an issue here. And you know that. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:03pm Aussie wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:56pm:
Don't give her another heart attack, Aussie. If Hole wants to come onto me, best to leave the old dear out of it. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:04pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:46pm:
you can leave me out of your sewer talk thanks....you seem to think you can do and say what you like.. well I am happy to report you if thats what you want.... in the mean time leave me out of the dark places you prefer to inhabit...thank you.. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:07pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:03pm:
Im nearly done with you, after a while it is no fun kicking the sh1t out of a pathetic loser ,military impostor. But not yet. :) :) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:10pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:00pm:
Don't want to have a go at the question? I understand. You've never been to war in your life. No worries, Big Hole. Just be grateful there's men who've got your back. Not everyone can be a fighter. Strap another medal on. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:12pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:07pm:
Yeah, that'll do me, Big Hole. You've really hurt my feelings now. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by BigOl64 on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:12pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
No matter what you say, we all know that none of what you say about yourself is true. YOU are a fkken IMPOSTOR! Run along little man, you're pathetic |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:18pm cods wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:04pm:
Come on, love, don't be like that. Big Hole called me pathetic. Can't you report him for hurting my feelings? Fair's fair, dear. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:21pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:12pm:
And yet, for all the battles I've fought, I'm not begging for praise for being a "serviceman". Pathetic. Gee, that one hurts. Better report him, Cods. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:42pm
The 'S' in RSL stands for returned from (Active) Service, which is clearly defined by commitment to a combat zone for a specified period of time.
Service people of all kinds can join the sub-branch, including Army Reserve - but the simple reality is that the original purpose was to give membership to returned Active Service people - i.e. Veterans. Thus the sub-branch. All are 'servicemen/women' - not all are veterans. This was one clear reason for the setting up of the VVAA many years ago - to clearly function on behalf of Veterans, primarily of recent conflicts, and at a time when the RSL was reluctant, to say the least, to accept their issues. All this quibbling is frankly disgusting. If anyone has proof positive that Karnal is an imposter - as many in ANZMI are - being as how it is an organisation of 'public servants, police and veterans'* - let him now show forth his evidence... and I don't mean the senseless and unfounded garbage that organisation puts about in the same vein as the gutter media does. PROOF - or go home. * How can cops and public serpents, neither of which bodies have ANY right to access or disseminate information UNLESS there is a clear case for some offence, and who are both liable to a penalty of two year's prison for misuse of confidential information - claim to represent the Veteran community? My experience with RSL and VVAA personnel is that they do not hand out information willy-nilly - and this lead to my approaching the then Minister for VA over leaks in records etc, which were being put to misuse - meaning information was being leaked by public servants who were thus liable for a criminal charge and a possible two year term. NOW CAN WE DROP THIS GARBAGE? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Agnes on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:55pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:42pm:
What are they trying to prove and who are they trying to prove it to..if they were legit you would think they would be supporting each other especially on this day |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:01am Agnes wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:55pm:
Exactly! There are a few around with a 'my dog is/was bigger than yours' issue. Not taking sides in this dispute - but that sort of thing has no place today. Meanwhile Veterans are still dying...... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Agnes on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:13am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:01am:
Self indulgent disrespect to the memory of our fighting men and men still in battle. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:22am
Jesus Christ, guys - I'll be up on the Gold Coast on 6th May for a coupla days - got a sick friend etc.
Meet me at the Southport RSL and we'll drink it out.... I'm the 6 foot guy with the grey hair and bald patch who looks pretty fit for 67, and I'll be in the front bar at 2 pm, drinking Guinness. We can do better than this kind of argument.... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 26th, 2017 at 7:00am Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 10:55pm:
You tell him Karnal. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 26th, 2017 at 8:52am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 12:22am:
will you be shouting grap???>....just checking! |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by cods on Apr 26th, 2017 at 8:55am Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 11:18pm:
true I didnt report you for saying that though did I.. I dont appreciate the language used by any of you....but when it comes down to damn right filth... I will report it... |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 26th, 2017 at 10:22am cods wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 8:52am:
I'll shout blue murder if they want me to pay for it all... :) |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 26th, 2017 at 10:56am cods wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 8:55am:
Damn right filth eh, love? You should spend some time with the boys. Make sandwiches, get us beers, that sort of thing. If you've got any grandkids, bring them along. |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2017 at 11:00am
Is it a bad time to ask you about your service, Karnal?
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Karnal on Apr 26th, 2017 at 11:17am Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 11:00am:
Yeah, it is. I've never serviced anyone in my bloody life. Characters like Big Mole service me. Any more stupid questions? |
Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 26th, 2017 at 11:20am
What's your star sign?
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Title: Re: Anzac Day Post by Agnes on Apr 26th, 2017 at 1:05pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26th, 2017 at 11:20am:
I think he is a Leo lol or Saggitarrius.. ;) as with tater tot boy.. ;D ;D ;D |
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