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Message started by The Mechanic on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:17pm

Title: If these three men were drowning..
Post by The Mechanic on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:17pm
  :)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Valkie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:26pm
Ham

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:36pm
The one on the left looks okay. The middle one looks fit.  The one on the right has a hook, so he could probably hook himself onto something to get out of the water.

Can they all swim? It's a difficult choice to make based on our limited information.

I've got my first aid certificate, if that helps.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:38pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:26pm:
Ham


You must mean lamb. They probably wouldn't accept a ham sandwich, Matty.

Many Arabic people are Muslims, you see. They have dietary requirements.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Valkie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:56pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:38pm:

Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:26pm:
Ham


You must mean lamb. They probably wouldn't accept a ham sandwich, Matty.

Many Arabic people are Muslims, you see. They have dietary requirements.


Oh, I see, must be culturally sensitive.

Then Ill haveva roast pork roll, with crackling and a beer.
All halal of course

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Gnads on Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:47pm
The bloke on the left is hate preacher radical Islamist
Anjem Choudry ... he's in jail in the UK.

The bloke on the right with the hook is terrorist Islamist
Abu Hamza al-Masri .... he's in jail in the USA.

The other Abu Izzadeen aka Trevor Richard Brooks is a convert who is the President of a banned terrorist organisation Al Ghurabaa is in jail in the UK for a second time relating to breaches of the Terrorism Act ...

he's a mate of Abu Hamza.

If they were drowning they would have a foot on the back of their heads.

Just grubs, welfare bludging Islamists ... who hate us but love our money. 

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:51pm
Thanks for bumping the thread Brian. I was wondering who they were.

Just out of interest, do you have the right or ability to criticise their ideology?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:56pm

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:51pm:
Thanks for bumping the thread Brian. I was wondering who they were.

Just out of interest, do you have the right or ability to criticise their ideology?


Sure, but must it be all over the Forum, Effendi?  Why not move this and all the similar Threads into the Islam Sub-Forum?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:08pm

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.


Rubbish.  He said he would delete any abuse you posted.

How about you move all these Islam Threads to where they belong?  You do that with many other Threads.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Gordon on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:19pm
I'd save them if they were drowning at Nth Bondi because I'm not a savage like them. But If I heard they'd been taken out with a drone strike, I'd make popcorn

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by jeez on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:29pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
I'd save them if they were drowning at Nth Bondi because I'm not a savage like them. But If I heard they'd been taken out with a drone strike, I'd make popcorn

Traitor, I would throw burley in the water.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by The Mechanic on Apr 17th, 2017 at 6:15pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.


Rubbish.  He said he would delete any abuse you posted.

How about you move all these Islam Threads to where they belong?  You do that with many other Threads.


forget about all that garbage Aussie..

what sort of sandwich would you make?

btw... we thought we had that bastard in the middle recently...

only a matter of time..

only a matter of time...  ;)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Valkie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:19pm
Pissed off recently.
Went to a hungry jacks somewhere in western Sydney and was served by a tent.
I asked for a bacon and egg burger and was informed that they only sell halal food.

I said thats ok, Ill eat a halal bacon burger and she just walked away..

Damn ignorant I recon, damn ignorant.

Had a good chuckle on the way out though.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Gordon on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:28pm

Johnnie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
I'd save them if they were drowning at Nth Bondi because I'm not a savage like them. But If I heard they'd been taken out with a drone strike, I'd make popcorn

Traitor, I would throw burley in the water.


Yeah I know, but I wouldn't even want filth like that to drown at my beach. Imagine if everyone was as protective about upholding the values in the place they live.

It's better than they diverse, but my code is my code.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by jeez on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:49pm

Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:28pm:

Johnnie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
I'd save them if they were drowning at Nth Bondi because I'm not a savage like them. But If I heard they'd been taken out with a drone strike, I'd make popcorn

Traitor, I would throw burley in the water.


Yeah I know, but I wouldn't even want filth like that to drown at my beach. Imagine if everyone was as protective about upholding the values in the place they live.

It's better than they diverse, but my code is my code.

Dunno but they could be dispersed as shark sh.t
The common denominator in all the trouble around is that of one religion, and it is not the Mormans.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:43pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
Pissed off recently.
Went to a hungry jacks somewhere in western Sydney and was served by a tent.
I asked for a bacon and egg burger and was informed that they only sell halal food.

I said thats ok, Ill eat a halal bacon burger and she just walked away..

Damn ignorant I recon, damn ignorant.

Had a good chuckle on the way out though.


I say, Matty, that's such a hoot. You read this in one of Herbie's Pickering posts, didn't you, dear?

You'll be up there with the real Matty soon, travelling all over the world. Rhode Island, Ryde, Darwin, Dunedin. Oh to be 21 again.

It is a jolly old halal world, no?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:23pm

Johnnie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
I'd save them if they were drowning at Nth Bondi because I'm not a savage like them. But If I heard they'd been taken out with a drone strike, I'd make popcorn

Traitor, I would throw burley in the water.


I'd throw my colostomy bag at them as a flotation device.  8-)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??



Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by jeez on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:34pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:23pm:

Johnnie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:19pm:
I'd save them if they were drowning at Nth Bondi because I'm not a savage like them. But If I heard they'd been taken out with a drone strike, I'd make popcorn

Traitor, I would throw burley in the water.


I'd throw my colostomy bag at them as a flotation device.  8-)

A pigs carcass would be appropriate.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by jeez on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:55pm
I am going to report you if you say tsk tsk or yawn one more time. be jeez

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:01pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.


Rubbish.  He said he would delete any abuse you posted.

How about you move all these Islam Threads to where they belong?  You do that with many other Threads.



FD likes the general board being filled with Muslim bashing.

It suits his obvious agenda.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:06pm

mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:08pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.


Rubbish.  He said he would delete any abuse you posted.

How about you move all these Islam Threads to where they belong?  You do that with many other Threads.



FD likes the general board being filled with Muslim bashing.

It suits his obvious agenda.


Yeas.  Effendi moves all sorts of Threads, but never an Islam one into the dedicated 'Islam' Sub-Forum.  Maybe the GMods can do it?  The place is being taken over by Muslim bashing.

:-?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)



What is irrational about fearing  creed that has committed 30 thousand violent acts since 2001?

It would be irrational NOT to fear and loathe it.



Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:16pm

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)



What is irrational about fearing  creed that has committed 30 thousand violent acts since 2001?

It would be irrational NOT to fear and loathe it.


Yet you don't fear Christianity, only Islam, Soren.  Tsk, tsk, Islamophobia, writ large.    ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Rhino on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:18pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)
SO obviously you dont think these 3 deserve to die, is that correct?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:54pm
Gordo could loan them his dumbells for a while... as long as the coroner gave them back....

Bring on the chum.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT9BeGNnCqw

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:59pm

rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

SO obviously you dont think these 3 deserve to die, is that correct?


No one deserves to die, Rhino.   You just thirst for revenge, not justice.   Tsk, tsk.   So childish.   ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:04pm

mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:01pm:
FD likes the general board being filled with Muslim bashing.

It suits his obvious agenda.


What Muslim-bashing?

For as long as Muslims keep making the news - we'll talk about them. We're responding to news reports from around the world and our major cities.


Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:11pm
Mothra thinks I persecute Muslims.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:16pm
How could I make a sandwhich with my foot on number 1's head???

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:19pm
Mothra wants to persecute us for not ignoring the news reports of Muslims Behaving Badly in this country and elsewhere.

We should be culturally sensitive and practice looking the other way whenever someone shouts "ALLAHU AKBAR!!" just before innocent civilians start losing their limbs and lives.




Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:22pm

freediver wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:11pm:
Mothra thinks I persecute Muslims.


Not sure if 'persecute' is the right word, but you do allow this Forum to be almost over-run with Muslim bash Threads instead of seeing them placed in the dedicated Islam Sub Forum.  You spend some time moving, for example only, Threads about 'America' into the America Sub-Forum and do not do the same with Muslim Threads, so there is a clear bias evident in favour of that bash.......ignoring, of course, what you post yourself concerning Islam all over the Forum.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:27pm
I have a bias towards moving threads to boards that are not member-run.

You are right that persecute is not the correct word.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:34pm

freediver wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:27pm:
I have a bias towards moving threads to boards that are not member-run.

You are right that persecute is not the correct word.


And why do you move them, Effendi?  Must be a good reason for it, hmmmmmm?

8-)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Rhino on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:43pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:59pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

SO obviously you dont think these 3 deserve to die, is that correct?


No one deserves to die, Rhino.   You just thirst for revenge, not justice.   Tsk, tsk.   So childish.   ::)

You are wrong. I simply recognise the negative value of these people to this world, removing them from it is logical and altruistic.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Valkie on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:49pm

rhino wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:59pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

SO obviously you dont think these 3 deserve to die, is that correct?


No one deserves to die, Rhino.   You just thirst for revenge, not justice.   Tsk, tsk.   So childish.   ::)

You are wrong. I simply recognise the negative value of these people to this world, removing them from it is logical and altruistic.


Bwyannnn wants to protect these murderers.
Now its getting interesting

Do you want people murdered by these men bwyannnnn?

Your islamophilea is showing.

Bow to your islamic masters, bow deep, sycophant, trator

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 19th, 2017 at 12:47am

Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:59pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

SO obviously you dont think these 3 deserve to die, is that correct?


No one deserves to die, Rhino.   You just thirst for revenge, not justice.   Tsk, tsk.   So childish.   ::)

You are wrong. I simply recognise the negative value of these people to this world, removing them from it is logical and altruistic.


Bwyannnn wants to protect these murderers.
Now its getting interesting

Do you want people murdered by these men bwyannnnn?

Your islamophilea is showing.

Bow to your islamic masters, bow deep, sycophant, trator





Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just more Islamophobia, people, move along, move along, you've read it all before.

Oh, and BTW, I don't want to protect these men, I want to punish them, properly, through a judicial system that works.   Killing them lowers society to their level.  It makes us all complicit in murder, Valkie.  Something I doubt you'd shy away from but those of us which value civilisation don't want that.    ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Valkie on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:20am

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 12:47am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:59pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

SO obviously you dont think these 3 deserve to die, is that correct?


No one deserves to die, Rhino.   You just thirst for revenge, not justice.   Tsk, tsk.   So childish.   ::)

You are wrong. I simply recognise the negative value of these people to this world, removing them from it is logical and altruistic.


Bwyannnn wants to protect these murderers.
Now its getting interesting

Do you want people murdered by these men bwyannnnn?

Your islamophilea is showing.

Bow to your islamic masters, bow deep, sycophant, trator



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/yawning.gif


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just more Islamophobia, people, move along, move along, you've read it all before.

Oh, and BTW, I don't want to protect these men, I want to punish them, properly, through a judicial system that works.   Killing them lowers society to their level.  It makes us all complicit in murder, Valkie.  Something I doubt you'd shy away from but those of us which value civilisation don't want that.    ::)


How can you possibly support civilization?

The CULT and its ways are antithetical to civilization.

The barbaric practices of murder, beating children to death, child rape in pedophile marriage, lopping off arms and heads, Female Genital Mutllation etc etc.
These are not civilized behaviours, they are barbaric and primitive in the extreem.

No my friend, you either embrace civilization or the CULT, not both.
They are like oil and water, they will never mix

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 19th, 2017 at 4:36pm

Valkie wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:20am:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 12:47am:

Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:49pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:59pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:18pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

SO obviously you dont think these 3 deserve to die, is that correct?


No one deserves to die, Rhino.   You just thirst for revenge, not justice.   Tsk, tsk.   So childish.   ::)

You are wrong. I simply recognise the negative value of these people to this world, removing them from it is logical and altruistic.


Bwyannnn wants to protect these murderers.
Now its getting interesting

Do you want people murdered by these men bwyannnnn?

Your islamophilea is showing.

Bow to your islamic masters, bow deep, sycophant, trator



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KPmXCf84Ozo/UWGrVhH6nyI/AAAAAAAAAd4/0Xoj4kE1eKg/s72-c/yawning.gif

Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just more Islamophobia, people, move along, move along, you've read it all before.

Oh, and BTW, I don't want to protect these men, I want to punish them, properly, through a judicial system that works.   Killing them lowers society to their level.  It makes us all complicit in murder, Valkie.  Something I doubt you'd shy away from but those of us which value civilisation don't want that.    ::)


How can you possibly support civilization?

The CULT and its ways are antithetical to civilization.

The barbaric practices of murder, beating children to death, child rape in pedophile marriage, lopping off arms and heads, Female Genital Mutllation etc etc.
These are not civilized behaviours, they are barbaric and primitive in the extreem.

No my friend, you either embrace civilization or the CULT, not both.
They are like oil and water, they will never mix




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Just more Islamophobia here, folks.  Move along, move along, nothing new to see here.  Tsk, tsk.

You appear not to understand the central tenants of the process we call "civilisation", Valkie but that is not unusual in someone who is locked it seems in the Australia of the 1950s under Ming the Merciless.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:23pm
Brian supports civilisation by denying himself the right or even ability to criticise other nations and religions, regardless of how antithetical to civilisation they are.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 19th, 2017 at 6:32pm
Cultural relativism is Brian's 'Get Out of Jail Free' card for Muslims who are moved to violence at the instruction of passages from the Koran.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 19th, 2017 at 6:37pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:34pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:27pm:
I have a bias towards moving threads to boards that are not member-run.

You are right that persecute is not the correct word.


And why do you move them, Effendi?  Must be a good reason for it, hmmmmmm?

8-)


Effendi.....you did not answer?

:-?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 19th, 2017 at 9:45pm

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 6:32pm:
Cultural relativism is Brian's 'Get Out of Jail Free' card for Muslims who are moved to violence at the instruction of passages from the Koran.


Really, Herbie?  You can quote where I have excused a single Muslim "who is moved to violence at the instruction of passages from the Koran"?

Here, I'll even provide space for you to prove I've done that:

Quote:








I look forward to you using it, rather than just attempting through your usual lies to fit me up for something I have never done.  Tsk, tsk, you're a troll and it shows, Herbie, it shows.    ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Gnads on Apr 20th, 2017 at 8:06am
You shouldn't accuse others of being a troll

smacks of hypocrisy.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:06am

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 6:32pm:
Cultural relativism is Brian's 'Get Out of Jail Free' card for Muslims who are moved to violence at the instruction of passages from the Koran.


Really, Herbie?  You can quote where I have excused a single Muslim "who is moved to violence at the instruction of passages from the Koran"?

Here, I'll even provide space for you to prove I've done that:

Quote:








I look forward to you using it, rather than just attempting through your usual lies to fit me up for something I have never done.  Tsk, tsk, you're a troll and it shows, Herbie, it shows.    ::)


Does saying you have no right or even ability to criticise them count?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 20th, 2017 at 3:47pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 8:06am:
You shouldn't accuse others of being a troll

smacks of hypocrisy.


Really?  Why, Gnads?  Herbie is a troll.   ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by gandalf on Apr 21st, 2017 at 3:48pm

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.


No I didn't.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:19pm
Bacon and egg on toast.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by John Smith on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:30pm

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.


now that would be funny :D :D

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)


It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by gandalf on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:45pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.


now that would be funny :D :D


Most of FD's fantasies are funny. Did you hear the one about how I want gays to be killed for 'doing it mardis gras style'?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by mothra on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:05pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)


It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.



Not only do all Muslims not do those things, those things are not only done by some Muslims.

That's the "irrational" part people keep trying to point out to you.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by mothra on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:10pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:45pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.


now that would be funny :D :D


Most of FD's fantasies are funny. Did you hear the one about how I want gays to be killed for 'doing it mardis gras style'?


Throw them off buildings, do you?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:35pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 3:48pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:02pm:
Not sure if Gandalf would allow it. He threatened to ban me recently.


No I didn't.


You certainly did not.  You did tell him that if he kept posting abuse, you would delete the abusive posts.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 3:00am

mothra wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:05pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)


It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.



Not only do all Muslims not do those things, those things are not only done by some Muslims.

That's the "irrational" part people keep trying to point out to you.


The irrational part is seeing people like you post defences for Muslims, but not bother to explain why there are never any condemnations by Muslims of those Muslims that DO these things. Whilst we would fall over ourselves in our secular countries to condemn to the high heavens anyone that would even consider doing many of these abhorrent acts, no Muslim is protesting in a Muslim majority country to stop someone from doing these barbaric acts with impunity.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:52am
"Not only do all Muslims not do those things, those things are not only done by some Muslims.

That's the "irrational" part people keep trying to point out to you."

ID the ones who don't for me.... so I can avoid the others and advise young girls to avoid them... actually I would advise any young girl against getting tangled up with a Muslim - for reasons of retaining her personal independence and sovereignty.

But that's a feminist idea, so it must be wrong ....

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:29pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:52am:
"Not only do all Muslims not do those things, those things are not only done by some Muslims.

That's the "irrational" part people keep trying to point out to you."


Bart Simpson: "Don't do what Donny Don't does". They could have made this simpler.

---

She may well have just denied that child brides, misogyny, acid spraying, racial discrimination, xenophobia, murdering apostates, and gang rapes are completely unrelated to Muslims.

We condemn Muslims for these things because these abhorrent crimes are more common in Muslim-majority countries than they are elsewhere in the world. Had Muslim-majority countries a similar crime rate that Western countries have, then we would not bring up these criticisms.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:47pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)


It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.


No, you hate those things.  Those things are not a part of Islam, despite what you and what Da'esh claim.   UnSubRocky, have you ever heard of those things being condoned by the Christian Church?  Yet they occurred for nearly two thousand years in Christian controlled countries.   Christians, disobeying the commandments of their religion when they conquered the New World, Africa, Asia, Oceania.   Yet, you've decided to single out the Muslims that obey their religion's commandments for the same treatment as those that don't.  Tsk, tsk.  Talk about using a broad brush!    ::) ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:42pm

Quote:
[quote]It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.
No, you hate those things.  Those things are not a part of Islam, despite what you and what Da'esh claim.[/quote]

Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl. He built an empire and a religious movement on the back of the trade in sex slaves. He instructed Muslims via the Koran to beat disobedient women. He beat his favourite child bride for leaving the house without his permission. Muhammad is the last person anyone with a moral compass would hold up as a religious leader.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:45pm

freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:42pm:

Quote:
[quote]It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.
No, you hate those things.  Those things are not a part of Islam, despite what you and what Da'esh claim.


Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl. He built an empire and a religious movement on the back of the trade in sex slaves. He instructed Muslims via the Koran to beat disobedient women. He beat his favourite child bride for leaving the house without his permission.[/quote]

And so what has any of that to do with anyone here, Effendi.  Are you suggesting Members here get aroused in any way at all by any of that?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:48pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:45pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:42pm:

Quote:
[quote]It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.
No, you hate those things.  Those things are not a part of Islam, despite what you and what Da'esh claim.


Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl. He built an empire and a religious movement on the back of the trade in sex slaves. He instructed Muslims via the Koran to beat disobedient women. He beat his favourite child bride for leaving the house without his permission.


And so what has any of that to do with anyone here, Effendi.  Are you suggesting Members here get aroused in any way at all by any of that?
[/quote]

I am suggesting that it is part of Islam, contrary to what Brian claimed. You are welcome to quiz Brian about the relevance, but you don't have to. There is not usually much point. After all this is the same guy who said he had no right or even ability to criticise other nations or religions, with the apparent exception of Christian people or western nations.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:57pm

Quote:
I am suggesting that it is part of Islam, contrary to what Brian claimed. You are welcome to quiz Brian about the relevance, but you don't have to. There is not usually much point.


I disagree.  That was all part, you say, allegedly, of the personal life of some wanker who lived a zillion centuries ago.  Some 'Mo's come lately' crowd funded the garbage, and most in these days have now abandoned or disowned the crap, like Gandalf for example, and every (few) Muslims I have met.....they were Sub-Continental.....have done the same.

We have Christian wankers who reckon God screwed a Virgin to beget Jesus.  How much different is that rubbish to the other rubbish?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:03pm

Quote:
That was all part, you say, allegedly, of the personal life of some wanker


In the Koran Aussie. He commands Muslims to beat disobedient women. It is actually worse than that. I think he tried to ban wife beating, but it was unpopular. So he literally sold his religion out for political expediency.

The Koran also says Muhammad is the best example for all mankind to follow. It is pretty absurd to try to take Muhammad out of Islam. I challenge you to find a single Muslim who accepts that on principle.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:30pm
I'm sure you are right, but not all of them buy the bullshit, just like most sane Christians don't believe God screwed the Virgin wife of a hard working carpenter to beget Jesus.  Once they accept that as crap, they do what Muslims do.....interpret in accordance with their personal bent or according to whim and circumstance or need to rationalise.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:32pm

Quote:
I'm sure you are right, but not all of them buy the bullshit


Only 1.3 billion or so.


Quote:
just like most sane Christians don't believe God screwed the Virgin wife of a hard working carpenter to beget Jesus


Not exactly how it goes, but you would be wrong there also.


Quote:
Once they accept that as crap, they do what Muslims do.....interpret in accordance with their personal bent or according to whim and circumstance or need to rationalise.


Once they believe the core tenets are crap, sane people ditch the religion. You cannot take Muhammad out of Islam and still have anything left.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:40pm
Just like once you take the God begat Jesus crap out of Christianity, people ditch the religion.

Can you take God begatting Jesus out of Christianity and still have anything left?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Yadda on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:41pm

freediver wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:23pm:
Brian supports civilisation by denying himself the right or even ability to criticise other       nations and religions,       regardless of how antithetical to civilisation they are.




People who do not like ISLAM, are un-ISLAMIC.

People who are un-ISLAMIC do not worship Allah.

People who do not worship Allah, and, are un-ISLAMIC, deserve to die.

Allah said so.
.....Mohammed said it too.



Disbelievers [who reject ISLAM] are oppressors of moslems, and are the friends of SATAN.

All Australians who reject ISLAM deserve to die.

Allah said so.

Read the Koran and the sunna of Mohammed.


"Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah,- whether he is slain or gets victory - Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value).
And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah and of those who, being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children, whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are oppressors; and raise for us from thee one who will protect; and raise for us from thee one who will help!"
Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan: feeble indeed is the cunning of Satan."
Koran 4.74-76




Quote:

"Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah,

and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil"
- Allah



Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by The Mechanic on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:43pm
I don't think Brian likes to be told that he shouldn't beat women...

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Yadda on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:54pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:47pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)


It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.


No, you hate those things.  Those things are not a part of Islam, despite what you and what Da'esh claim.   UnSubRocky, have you ever heard of those things being condoned by the Christian Church?  Yet they occurred for nearly two thousand years in Christian controlled countries.


Christians, disobeying the commandments of their religion


when they conquered the New World, Africa, Asia, Oceania.   Yet, you've decided to single out the Muslims that obey their religion's commandments for the same treatment as those that don't.  Tsk, tsk.  Talk about using a broad brush!    ::) ::)


Whereas, when moslems commit atrocities, bombing markets, bombing funerals, bombing subways, and killing those whom they deem to be infidels,         they [moslems] are obeying the commandments of their religion.



.



"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



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IMAGE...


Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar outside Parramatta police headquarters

QUESTION;
What 'set off' Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar on that fateful day, to decide to murder Australian Curtis Cheng in Parramatta, NSW ???

ANSWER;
ONLY ALLAH KNOWS!



n.b.
ISLAMIC culture encouraged Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, to murder Australian Curtis Cheng.



Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar was inspired by ISLAM's imperative, which urged him TO KILL THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH.



Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:52pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:43pm:
I don't think Brian likes to be told that he shouldn't beat women...




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Mechanic, why do you bother?  All you do is troll and use ad hominem and spread Islamophobia.  Tsk, tsk.   So much for your belief in Australian values.  ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:58pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:47pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)


It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.


No, you hate those things.  Those things are not a part of Islam, despite what you and what Da'esh claim.   UnSubRocky, have you ever heard of those things being condoned by the Christian Church?  Yet they occurred for nearly two thousand years in Christian controlled countries.


Christians, disobeying the commandments of their religion


when they conquered the New World, Africa, Asia, Oceania.   Yet, you've decided to single out the Muslims that obey their religion's commandments for the same treatment as those that don't.  Tsk, tsk.  Talk about using a broad brush!    ::) ::)


Whereas, when moslems commit atrocities, bombing markets, bombing funerals, bombing subways, and killing those whom they deem to be infidels,  they [moslems] are obeying the commandments of their religion.


If that was true, why then do Muslims protest against Terrorism, Yadda?







It's a simple question.  Why not try and actually answer it truthfully, Yadda?

::) ::)


Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:27am

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:47pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 4:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:36pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:24pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:40pm:


Move along, there folks, move along.  Just more Islamophobia, you've seen it all before.   ::) ::)

What's wrong with Islamophobia?

What's not to hate and fear about Islam??




Tsk, tsk, Soren, 'cause it's irrational and based upon fear and prejudice, not reality?    ::)


It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.


No, you hate those things.  Those things are not a part of Islam, despite what you and what Da'esh claim.   UnSubRocky, have you ever heard of those things being condoned by the Christian Church?  Yet they occurred for nearly two thousand years in Christian controlled countries.   Christians, disobeying the commandments of their religion when they conquered the New World, Africa, Asia, Oceania.   Yet, you've decided to single out the Muslims that obey their religion's commandments for the same treatment as those that don't.  Tsk, tsk.  Talk about using a broad brush!    ::) ::)


What do I care? I'm neither a Christian or a person concerned about 500 years ago. I care about today and law and order. Find a Christian that does any or to all of these barbaric acts, and you will find people of all faiths (or even those without) condemning the person. Find a Muslim doing barbaric acts, and his fellow Muslims would pretend that they don't see it.

Trust me, I have just finished arguing with a Muslim on the youtube about how he believes his religion is above reproach.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Yadda on Apr 24th, 2017 at 9:25am

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:58pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:54pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 6:47pm:

No, you hate those things.  Those things are not a part of Islam, despite what you and what Da'esh claim.   UnSubRocky, have you ever heard of those things being condoned by the Christian Church?  Yet they occurred for nearly two thousand years in Christian controlled countries.


Christians, disobeying the commandments of their religion


when they conquered the New World, Africa, Asia, Oceania.   Yet, you've decided to single out the Muslims that obey their religion's commandments for the same treatment as those that don't.  Tsk, tsk.  Talk about using a broad brush!    ::) ::)


Whereas, when moslems commit atrocities, bombing markets, bombing funerals, bombing subways, and killing those whom they deem to be infidels,  they [moslems] are obeying the commandments of their religion.


If that was true, why then do Muslims protest against Terrorism, Yadda?







It's a simple question.  Why not try and actually answer it truthfully, Yadda?

::) ::)



Easy.


Answering the 'messages' being stated in those images.......




IMAGE.....


MOSLEM DECEIT - 'We are moslems, and we don't support moslems who are extremists. Honest!'

ANSWER

Proof ?
peruse the content of this page.....
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/opinion-polls.aspx




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IMAGE.....


MOSLEM DECEIT, THROUGH SOPHISTRY - 'Terror is the enemy of ISLAM.'

ANSWER

Moslems/ISLAM define 'terrorism'/'terrorists' as those who resist the influence and spread of ISLAM.


AS PER.....

------------ >


Quote:

"Peace summarises everything in Islam, because it means

submitting your will to God,

so you acquire peace through it," he said.

"When I'm following its [i.e. ISLAM's] teachings,

I know that my own actions are in line     with what my creator wants,

and hence I am at peace with myself, [with] my community and the rest of the world."
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-19/darwins-muslim-community-tackles-discrimination-at-meeting/6025586?section=nt

IMAGE....



MORE EVIDENCE.....

A prominent ISLAMIC cleric in Indonesia has publicly declared that,
1/ the Indonesian [moslem] Bali bombers were NOT terrorists,
2/ that the Indonesian [moslem] Bali bombers were in fact "counter-terrorists",
3/ and that the Indonesian Bali bombers were role models for other moslems,
4/ that the world community should be fighting against those who are not moslems [like Australians], because non-moslems [like Australians] are 'the real terrorists' - because we oppose ISLAMIC values - like 'legitimately' bombing places where non-moslems gather.

Google;
Bashir calls bombers 'counter-terrorists'




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IMAGE.....


MORE MOSLEM DECEIT, THROUGH SOPHISTRY - 'Killers of 'innocent' are enemies of ISLAM'


ANSWER

Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.


---------- >



Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4



Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Yadda on Apr 24th, 2017 at 9:30am


FILTHY STINKING, DECEITFUL MOSLEMS!




-------- >

A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing.


Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005


......In public interviews Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.




Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”



these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts





Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:47pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Just like once you take the God begat Jesus crap out of Christianity, people ditch the religion.

Can you take God begatting Jesus out of Christianity and still have anything left?


No Aussie. Jesus is kind of central to Christianity. And Muhammad is central to Islam. But you were not arguing a need to take Jesus out of Christianity. You were however suggesting that Muslims do, out of necessity, take Muhammad out of Islam.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:52pm

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:47pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Just like once you take the God begat Jesus crap out of Christianity, people ditch the religion.

Can you take God begatting Jesus out of Christianity and still have anything left?


No Aussie. Jesus is kind of central to Christianity. And Muhammad is central to Islam. But you were not arguing a need to take Jesus out of Christianity. You were however suggesting that Muslims do, out of necessity, take Muhammad out of Islam.


No.  I was saying that scholars and adherents and idiots choose to interpret their special Book to suit convenience and the times in which they live.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2017 at 5:56pm


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  I knew you wouldn't answer the question truthfully, Yadda.  Tsk, tsk, more Islamophobia, I see.  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:00pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Quote:
I am suggesting that it is part of Islam, contrary to what Brian claimed. You are welcome to quiz Brian about the relevance, but you don't have to. There is not usually much point.


I disagree.  That was all part, you say, allegedly, of the personal life of some wanker who lived a zillion centuries ago.  Some 'Mo's come lately' crowd funded the garbage, and most in these days have now abandoned or disowned the crap, like Gandalf for example, and every (few) Muslims I have met.....they were Sub-Continental.....have done the same.


Which aspects of Islam have most Muslims disowned Aussie?

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:02pm
Not one Muslim I know supports beating the schit out of a Wife or child brides Effendi.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Gnads on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:16pm

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:52am:
"Not only do all Muslims not do those things, those things are not only done by some Muslims.

That's the "irrational" part people keep trying to point out to you."

ID the ones who don't for me.... so I can avoid the others and advise young girls to avoid them... actually I would advise any young girl against getting tangled up with a Muslim - for reasons of retaining her personal independence and sovereignty.

But that's a feminist idea, so it must be wrong ....


;D ;D Touche Grappler

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Gnads on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:19pm

freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:45pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:42pm:

Quote:
[quote]It is not *irrational* to fear or hate Islam. Do you like genital mutilation? Throwing acid into the faces of women? Misogyny? Child rape?

If not, then you are an Islamophobe.
No, you hate those things.  Those things are not a part of Islam, despite what you and what Da'esh claim.


Muhammad had sex with a 9 year old girl. He built an empire and a religious movement on the back of the trade in sex slaves. He instructed Muslims via the Koran to beat disobedient women. He beat his favourite child bride for leaving the house without his permission.


And so what has any of that to do with anyone here, Effendi.  Are you suggesting Members here get aroused in any way at all by any of that?


I am suggesting that it is part of Islam, contrary to what Brian claimed. You are welcome to quiz Brian about the relevance, but you don't have to. There is not usually much point. After all this is the same guy who said he had no right or even ability to criticise other nations or religions, with the apparent exception of Christian people or western nations.[/quote]

Got him in one.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Gnads on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:22pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Quote:
I am suggesting that it is part of Islam, contrary to what Brian claimed. You are welcome to quiz Brian about the relevance, but you don't have to. There is not usually much point.


I disagree.  That was all part, you say, allegedly, of the personal life of some wanker who lived a zillion centuries ago.  Some 'Mo's come lately' crowd funded the garbage, and most in these days have now abandoned or disowned the crap, like Gandalf for example, and every (few) Muslims I have met.....they were Sub-Continental.....have done the same.

We have Christian wankers who reckon God screwed a Virgin to beget Jesus.  How much different is that rubbish to the other rubbish?


One maybe a holy fairytale

whereas what Mohammad did appears to be totally believable

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Gnads on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:24pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Just like once you take the God begat Jesus crap out of Christianity, people ditch the religion.

Can you take God begatting Jesus out of Christianity and still have anything left?


No where in the Bible does it say God begat Jesus.

All the begatting was about other people.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:25pm

Aussie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:02pm:
Not one Muslim I know supports beating the schit out of a Wife or child brides Effendi.


You must beat your wife respectfully Aussie. Ask Abu about it. The point is to humiliate her into submission and not leave visible bruises. Bruises would bring her shame, particularly round the eyes, as people might see when she goes to collect water.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:26pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:22pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:57pm:

Quote:
I am suggesting that it is part of Islam, contrary to what Brian claimed. You are welcome to quiz Brian about the relevance, but you don't have to. There is not usually much point.


I disagree.  That was all part, you say, allegedly, of the personal life of some wanker who lived a zillion centuries ago.  Some 'Mo's come lately' crowd funded the garbage, and most in these days have now abandoned or disowned the crap, like Gandalf for example, and every (few) Muslims I have met.....they were Sub-Continental.....have done the same.

We have Christian wankers who reckon God screwed a Virgin to beget Jesus.  How much different is that rubbish to the other rubbish?


One maybe a holy fairytale

whereas what Mohammad did appears to be totally believable


So....draw your line in the sand Gonads.  Is Jesus the product of an adulterous relationship between the Virgin Wife of a hard working carpenter and God?


Or not.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Aussie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:28pm

Gnads wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Just like once you take the God begat Jesus crap out of Christianity, people ditch the religion.

Can you take God begatting Jesus out of Christianity and still have anything left?


No where in the Bible does it say God begat Jesus.

All the begatting was about other people.


:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Huh, so Jesus in not the Son of God born of the virtuous and virgin Mary?????????

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Valkie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:39pm
Seriously, I mean SERIOUSLY

Look at that guy, no wonder he became a muzzo, it was the only way in hell he could ever get layed.

Ugly, and just plain weird looking

And whats with the beard?
Didnt one of his rapist fathers ever show him how to shave properly?

Probably one of those sub 60 IQ blokes.

Sheesh


Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:42am

Gnads wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Just like once you take the God begat Jesus crap out of Christianity, people ditch the religion.

Can you take God begatting Jesus out of Christianity and still have anything left?


No where in the Bible does it say God begat Jesus.

All the begatting was about other people.


According to the Gospel of Matthew 1:18-25:


Quote:
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. 20But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. 24Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

[url=http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/1.htm]Source[/url]

The Holy Ghost is part of the Christian triumvirate God, Gnads.  It is part and parcel of God.  Therefore, Aussie is correct to say that God begat Jesus.   ::)

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by freediver on Apr 25th, 2017 at 5:08am
By the same logic you could say he begat himself. Or Jesus begat God, if you insist it makes the three words interchangeable.

Title: Re: If these three men were drowning..
Post by Yadda on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:42am:

Gnads wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Just like once you take the God begat Jesus crap out of Christianity, people ditch the religion.

Can you take God begatting Jesus out of Christianity and still have anything left?


No where in the Bible does it say God begat Jesus.

All the begatting was about other people.


According to the Gospel of Matthew 1:18-25:


Quote:
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. 19Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. 20But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 21And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins. 22Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, 23Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. 24Then Joseph being raised from sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took unto him his wife: 25And knew her not till she had brought forth her firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS.

[url=http://biblehub.com/kjv/matthew/1.htm]Source[/url]

The Holy Ghost is part of the Christian triumvirate God, Gnads.  It is part and parcel of God.  Therefore, Aussie is correct to say that God begat Jesus.   ::)



According to the N.T., Jesus cousin John the Baptist was also born through the intervention of God or his angels.

And the O.T. records that God also intervened in the birth of Isaac [to Abraham and Sarah].

But some people just cannot believe.

And that is OK.

Luke 1:5-25



18  And Zacharias said unto the angel, Whereby shall I know this? for I am an old man, and my wife well stricken in years.
19  And the angel answering said unto him, I am Gabriel, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to shew thee these glad tidings.


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