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Title: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:48pm For some reason, I'm banned from 'Feedback'. So, this is from Mr Kangaroo: "I've read the forum rules and I notice that many on here don't bother to follow them, especially when it comes to being racist when the topic isn't even about race. "Is there any enforcement of the rules or are they merely a formality in running a forum? "Is it safe to assume that those who moderate or even own the forum condone that kind of activity which is why it goes unmoderated? "Thanks." I believe he has hit the nail on the head in the highlighted part. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:52pm
This place is much better without you.
When's your next hospital stay? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:54pm Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
This place is nothing without me. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Agnes on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:58pm
you are well loved Greg.. everyone here loves you :)
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:02pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:54pm:
You've become very bitter of late. Did you get a poor health report? The same thing that kept you away from Napa last year? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Agnes on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:04pm
pm Greg and ask him personal questions like that Gordon.
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:02pm:
"bitter"? How so? All I'm doing is exposing the scum of the Earth. Why are you taking this so personally? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by issuevoter on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm
Is this really a topic, or just another egocentric whinge?
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:23pm issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Have you not noticed that they all end this way? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:21pm:
Yes. Are you really a disgusting racist? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:25pm:
If all the races are indistinguishable, how do you tell them apart, turd? Either there are racial differences -or there are no races, in which case it is impossible to be a racist. Explain, turd. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:58pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
I'm not here to be the thought police. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
Which part of not being a 'thought police' is required to understand that obvious breach of Effendi's Rules? Really, those Rules ought to be ditched to reflect what does go on here. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:17pm Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
That's not he topic but personally there is so much name calling that I can only be bothered in what I consider the worst cases I see like when a thread turns into a tit for tat abuse. I don't have the time for much else. People could all start acting like adults and police themselves a little. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:21pm Aussie wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:09pm:
The mods will never ban They don't have the balls. Much easier to ban me: someone who tells the truth. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:22pm Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 8:51pm:
Woah! Back up there, little girl. Who made that claim? Not me, that's for sure. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:27pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
Are you suggesting we are bullies and you're a weakling and easy target? Or is it like it really is and we are not thought police? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:30pm Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:17pm:
You are stuck between a rock and a hard place, I agree. Members don't put you there......the Rules of Effendi do. Credit where it is due, and I will always give it. At least you are here and interact with Members between Thursday night and Monday night. The rest of the GMods ought be booted......now........as being always AWOL. There are willing alternatives. You do a good job Setanta with the pathetic tools you have been handed. The rest of them are not, as GMods, worth a pinch of goat schit on a windy hill. And, as I have said a zillion times in public and in private.....I would never accept a GMod job here. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:31pm Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:27pm:
I'm suggesting you're brainwashed imbeciles who suck on the cocks of rightard bigots at every opportunity you get. Wasn't that clear? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:34pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:31pm:
No but you have clarified, thanks. My political views do not come into my moderation and nor should they. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:22pm:
What is the difference between races, then, turd? And why is it racist to notice them, if they exist, stinker? You reveal yourself to be completely out of your depth the moment you utter anything, turd. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:36pm Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:34pm:
Tell it to someone who gives a sh!t. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:37pm Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
You didn't answer my question. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
Your anger levels are really high lately. RUOK? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:36pm:
I suggest you do the same next time you want to crap on about cock sucking. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:43pm Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:40pm:
Sorry, but I have to stop you there. What makes you think I would listen to any suggestion coming from you? Seriously? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:47pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:43pm:
No need to stop me, a suggestion is just that. Fell free to stick your fingers in your ears and yell "I'm not listening!" Listen or not, not my concern. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:49pm
Ummmmm - no - not unless I wish to be called a white bastard or some kind of Muslim hater......
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:52pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
I get called a rascist all the time, I can't possibly imagine why when there is no evidence. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:55pm Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:52pm:
I think that is the nub of the issue - certain groups accorded "Accredited Victim Status" can say anything they like about others.... no evidence required...... It's a disease of the late twentieth century that still needs to be resolved... this 'guilt by accusation' nonsense.... |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Agnes on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:57pm
I mean you don't have to be bitter or sick or other to be fed up with some of the stuff that goes on in here, it's pretty horrible... I just ignore now, its the only way to stay sane I don't even venture into these threads.
Reading this nasty rubbish all the time is enough to make anyone sick. And I could name some really nasty pp in here who are the worst offenders too. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:04pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:55pm:
I work with every race imaginable. I'm working with a curryshitter client on Tuesday.....top bloke. I eat in Muslim restaurants, Ive rooted women from just about every race and even worked in a muzzo country ffs! I worked for free for various NGOs in SE Asia for nearly 5 years. Maybe I don't talk the talk but damn I walk the walk. My problem specifically is with sunni Islam and that makes me rascist.....lol |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Agnes on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:06pm
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:04pm:
Received and understood....... |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:14pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
Doing something most worthy, something I wanted to do but the wife nixed. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:16pm Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:14pm:
In Nth Viet I worked with an 80 year old Dutch guy. Plenty of time yet :) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:19pm Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:16pm:
Might put it to her again when the last son leaves. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:23pm Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:14pm:
Yes - I'm the same - I wanted to own the home, then do aid work somewhere..... women have a way of changing that..... BTW - my ex and daughter are working on the Errol Flynn film currently in production ... daughter thinks she might go on to Aquaman.... hadn't even heard about it... So it seems our 'high wage costs' are precluding Hollywood from making movies here.... (falls about laughing)..... ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:24pm Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Teaching English is a nice way to start then you can look around for a way use your professional skills. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:28pm Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:19pm:
Leave her alone long enough and I might put it to her for you... oh... sorry... different genre...... :) I still want to do aid work somewhere.... but I'm carer for my ex (the other one)..... Jayzua - the kid's mother is 70 and still doing movies..... it's the Irish genes.... FSS - our daughter is 26 this year..... late starters.... she was always making movies and I was off - in her words - fighting the wars... |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:29pm Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:24pm:
I wouldn't say professional skills, those are hard to come by in Au for that line of work. Book learning only goes so far in that field I imagine. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:50pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:28pm:
I'm more interested in cleaning up after them. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:53pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:21pm:
You might have noticed the absence of an old friend, Greggery - chap who went by the name of Sore End. If Frank didn't impersonate him so cunningly, others mightn't have noticed his absence either. I did though. I do miss him, you know. Frank's not the same. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:54pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:53pm:
I like it when you are being frank. ;) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:56pm Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
You see? Sore End would have said this in Danish: tjurd. I do miss him. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:58pm Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:54pm:
Now now, Setanta, you leave Frank out of this. He's learned his lesson. He now leaves the j out of his pet name for Greggery. Why would anyone want to ban a foreigner who is so willing to assimilate? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:09pm
.. and so - as the sun collapses into the west - we bid farewell to reasoned discussion and welcome the new night darkness of personal vitriol...
I'm off to watch a free movie online.... |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:14pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:09pm:
Tjurd. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:22pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:14pm:
Is racism encouraged? Only if you are granted a licence to do it.... Salaam.... |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:42pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:22pm:
Did you mean Shalom? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:17am Racism should be encouraged. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:43am Setanta wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 11:42pm:
I'm Independent..... |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:43am Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:17am:
Why so? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:07am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:43am:
Because it is a fact |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:15am Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:07am:
I hate lycra wearing bike riders. Are they a race? I don't really hate them, they're just severely annoying. Are you one? A pretend racer? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:05am Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 12:17am:
Encourage them. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2017 at 2:06am Setanta wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:15am:
No, they're a fckt. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by bogarde73 on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:09am greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
I don't see this as a problem for you. All you need to do is use your other ID of Karnal, the social worker employed by the Muslim Brotherhood. Or start another one and go about your business of defending the indefensible, such as the invasion of Europe by human or near-human garbage and genital mutilation of little girls by Muslim women. Repeat after.me: "all cultures are equal" |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:39am
Racism is not acceptable in any form.
Regardless of where you are born, what colour you are or what language you speak, we are all the same. What defines us, what causes angst and trouble is how we act, how and what we do and who we do it to. This is not racism, this is simply common sense. If a particular group, cult or culture is itself intolerant, brutal and/ or barbaric. If this group is isolationist and antithetical to the ideals of tolerance, then that group must be considered outside the realms of decency and should be restricted and even prevented from mixing with civilized people. The CULT is the perfect example of this problem. It plays on the race debate, knowing that this is its only avenue of safety. However if we examine its practices, its inhumanity, its abhorrent treatment of its own people where it rules, we can see that it is not a race, it is not a religion, it is simply a political and military invader. As such it should be discriminated against and stopped dead in its tracks until it matures and is wiling to be more tolerant and civilized. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:06am Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 8:39am:
Are you talking about Islamophobes? Sure sounds like it to me: "intolerant, brutal and/ or barbaric ... isolationist and antithetical to the ideals of tolerance ... " |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am
LOL! Look at all the racists come out with the disclaimer "I'm not a racist ... but", and the seminal favourite, "Some of my best friends are *insert pejorative here*".
Face i lads, you're a bunch of racists. Own it. There are even clubs you can join. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 3:18pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:06am:
Do you ever read your posts before you hit post? You sound like a child. Trying to twist something into what it is not. Ok lets play a game little pecca. Show me the brutality of someone who distrusts Islam? I can give you many examples of brutality of the CULT, FGM, Behaeding, Murder for being gay, murder of children who have been raped etc etc. Point 1 for me.... Show me proven intolerance to anyone other than the CULT of those against it. You must understand, there is a difference between intolrance and justified regugnance for something. I don't like the idea of sewage in my lounge room I find it repugnant, I don't like rodents infesting my home, I find it repugnant. I do not want cancer, so I don't smoke, the thought of cancer and the associated slow death is repugnant. I do not like or agree with the repugnant ideal and practices of the CULT, I neither fear nor hate it, I simply find it repugnant, like sewage, rodents and cancer. This is not intolerance, this is a simple case of avoiding repugnant and disgusting things. Point 2 for me. Finally, primitive behavior based on a book of lies, perversions and stupidity is just about as primitive as one can get. Primitive mantra and repetitive practices based on some primitive man who was a liar, a pervert and a simpleton. Just about as primitive as one can get. Point 3 for me game set and match |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 4:59pm
Is racism encouraged? I thought, according to some posters that it was obligatory, Greg. Tsk, tsk. Such a silly question, really.. ::)
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Rhino on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:14pm mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am:
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:30pm mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am:
The CULT is not a race dimwhit, its a barbaric, pedophile infested, brutal regimen of self confessed retards, criminals, murderers and parasites. If someone is antisematic, they are not racist. If someone dislikes, Christians, they are not racist If someone hates sewage, like islam.....they are not racist It does not matter how many times you say it, it still aint true.....fool Now repeat after me. To ...be...a...race...it ...must....be ...a ...race. To...be...a ...racist....you...have...to ....hate ....a ....race. Islam....is ....not.....a....race, ....it ....is....simply.....a.....cult |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 6:22pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Just more Islamophobia, folks, move along there, nothing new to see, just the same old Islamophobia. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:13pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 6:22pm:
You probably think you are smart or even funny, But this continual asinine, infantile drivel simply shows that you are childish, uneducated, lost for competent thought or argument. But we all expect this from the likes of you. Being a muzzo , sympathiser, sycophant, traitor to the human race , you have no understanding of logic. Do you? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm
Some races are inferior, some are superior.
Not every member of each is superior or inferior but as far as statistics can say, the differences are obvious across populations. Unless, of course, if races do not exist and Africans, Aborigines, Arabs, Islanders etc are mysteriously and inexplicably inferior to Europeans for some other reason. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:18pm Agnes wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:58pm:
tsk ... ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:38pm Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor Valkie resorting to ad hominem debate, rather than actually arguing the issue. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
"Race" as you are using the term is a social construct, Soren. Genetically there is only one "race", the human one. There is more differences with each so-called "racial" group than there is between them. Essentially we are all Africans/Indigenous/Arabs/Islanders/etc. Indeed, there is ample evidence that we are all descended from Africans. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:47pm Setanta wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 1:15am:
You are entitled to hate lycra wearing bike riders. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:05pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
So why are Africans fleeing to Europe and no Europeans are fleeing to Africa? Africans wanted independence from the European yoke of colonial oppression, yet after 60 years of African independence, Africans are flocking to the European continent FROM THEIR FELLOW AFRICANS. It's all about race and the culture that is inextricably bound up with race. Africans are vociferious, ruthless wolves to each other. As are Arabs, Indians, Chinese, Indo-Chinese. These places are deeply corrupt and unpleasant, that is why people are leaving them. Blacks, Arabs Asians, they all have a race pride that is totally unjustified. But they are not leaving behind the culture that makes them flee. Instead, they spread the unpleasant, inferior, toxic values they have been fleeing. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07pm Valkie wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
Valkie i was talking about bog-standard racism, not Islamophobia. Don't you feel just a little but silly now? You know, the kind of racism you yourself exhibit when you refer to Indonesians as "monkeys". |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:12pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Total bollocks, you stupid little aunty. They were not 'Africans' at that point. Here's a spanner -there are thousands like it- for your idiotic, unthinking 'thesis': why should we recognise Aborigines if there are no such things as races? Who IS an Aborigine if there are no races? How many European (a race) ancestors can you have before you top being an Aborigine. Conversely, how many Aboriginal ancestor can you have and remain still a European? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:32pm Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:00pm:
I see no evidence of you being "superior" to anyone at all, Frank. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Rhino on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
We also share 50 percent of our DNA with bananas. On the same basis you could say we are descended from bananas. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:41pm rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
The sad thing is, in your mind that probably passes for an argument. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Rhino on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:47pm
As I said, it's not about individuals but populations.
Africans are fleeing other Africans after 60 years of African independence. And they are fleeing to their old colonial masters in Europe. It's a one way movement of Africans fleeing the hellholes Africans have created. Same with Arabs and Muslims. No Europeans are trying to get to the 'Muslims lands' while th Muslims are desperate to get the bloody hell away from other murderous, oppressive, exploitative Muslims. And they ALL want to go to the old colonial oppressors in Europe!!!!!!! They have been given independence and self-rule an they have f Vcked it up like they have done with everything else. That's their culture. There is simply nothing in African or Muslim Arab culture that improves anything - that's why thy themselves are fleeing it. If they were not inferior cultures they wouldn't be fleeing themselves, would they? They would stay and build it and make the most of it. But they know it's all in vain, it's all sh!te, so they run away, leaving their second class women behind. And once in Europe, they want sharia and ummah.ii |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:49pm rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Brian is 100% correct. The majority of difference between humans is found within groups. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:49pm Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
There's so much wrong with that, i have no idea where to start. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:53pm rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:39pm:
Do you have a problem with evolution, Rhino? Creationism is more your thing, perhaps? ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:54pm rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:45pm:
Has it? Care to point out this research, Rhino? You know, provide a link to the stuff that proves that "races" actually exist? I'd be interested to see it. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:57pm Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:47pm:
Colonialism has a great deal to answer for, Soren. Tsk, tsk, amazing how your 60 years overturns several hundred years of European rule and all the problems it has caused to Africans/Asians/Central/Southern Americans/Oceanians... ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Neferti on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:59pm mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Groups of what? Men/women? Male/female? Black/white? Christian/Athiest? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:02pm Neferti wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:59pm:
Group means what we would erroneously refer to as races. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Rhino on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:06pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:54pm:
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:10pm rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:06pm:
Rhino speak for "i can't back up what i say, please try to google something to validate me". |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm
And your image is every bit as wrong, bigotted and preposterous as you are
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Neferti on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:02pm:
OK, so what in your little world is a "race". |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:14pm
There is technically only one race Nef.
That would be the human race. ... unless you believe in lizard people. Do you believe in lizard people Nef? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Neferti on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:20pm mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm:
I wouldn't say those images are "wrong" as such ... however the blonde could ACTUALLY be able to claim Aboriginal heritage .... IF she can connect (somehow) to a Tribe out there somewhere who NEVER had to REGISTER their kids. Blah blah blah. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:23pm Neferti wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:20pm:
There you go Rhino. Nef believes you. Feel better? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Neferti on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:27pm
are you part abo, mothra?
PS I have no idea what reno (?) thinks |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:28pm Neferti wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:27pm:
Can't you spell Aboriginal? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Neferti on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:42pm Quote:
https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/language/aboriginal-words-in-australian-english |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Amadd on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:47pm
In my experience, racism (for want of a better word) is completely natural and should be accepted rather than feared.
Birds of a feather flock together. Studies have shown that infants gravitate towards people of their own features. I have found this to be true also in my own personal experience. Do we want so much for the time when aboriginals will refer to white people as "our people"? Forget it! Not gonna happen. Of course it's completely taboo for a white person to refer to other whites as "our people", because we whites seem to like to piss down our own backs and tell ourselves it's raining. Get honest. Tell it like it is, to ourselves and others. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:48pm Neferti wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:42pm:
https://www.creativespirits.info/aboriginalculture/people/racism-in-aboriginal-australia#axzz4eVwdq1Rs |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:49pm Amadd wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:47pm:
I think you are unclear on the meanin of the word 'racism'. At least i hope you are. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:54pm rhino wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:06pm:
As usual, you present no evidence, just assertion, Rhino. Sorry, doesn't wash. Try again. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:58pm
.. I believe in a good day at the races meself... just saying.... does that make me a racist? :-X
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:00am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:58pm:
What make you a racist is referring to people from the Middle East as "sand n1ggers", You're just going to have to own that. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Amadd on Apr 18th, 2017 at 1:07am mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:49pm:
Please explain? I think "racism" means "preference regarding race or skin colour". What does it mean to you? Most dark skinned people that I know have preference due to skin colour. Is that unusual to you? Actions not words break down the walls. I have many dark skinned friends that consider me "their bro", and I consider them my bro . Not through empty words, but through actions. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:14am mothra wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:00am:
FD's much more polite. He calls them sand negroes. And why not? There's absolutely nothing racist about it at all. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:35am Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:12pm:
A good question. I wonder how many gave up claiming to be aboriginal in the past, only to jump back on the bandwagon when special benefits arose from being aboriginal recently. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Amadd on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:39am
It's funny that these imported black people try to goad me with their imagined supremacy in the workplace. They say "where are you now whitey?".
I say, "You're still working for me boy". In two weeks I'm going to spend six months on the best island in the world at your expense black person. Suck it down and work smacking hard for me boy. I have shares that require tending to. Like I say to all the other childish supremacists. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:41am Quote:
That is not true. If there was Neanderthal DNA, then white people would not be able to breed with other races of people, such as African or Aboriginal. White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:28am UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:35am:
Which benefits? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:30am Amadd wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:39am:
Who's going to be your Man Friday, Amadd? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by aquascoot on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:14am
i dont think we could say one "race" is superior to another.
but cohorts of people exhibit behaviours which help them climb the "narrow road to success" and this tends to wax and wane. as an example, americans in the days of the pilgrim fathers, the days of the war of independance, the years from 1941 to 1946 were definitely "superior" to the modern day 'fat steve" who seeks nothing but to pleasure himself and be "entertained". similarly aboriginals were strong, powerful and resilient but have now come more to resemble "fat steve". the 'do-gooders" tend to be the people who scream 'racist' the loudest, but in doing so, they dont help at all (except maybe they get s boost to their ego by identifying with a moral superiority). one needs only to look at 2 cohorts of people who are championed by the do-gooders and intellectual elite (the palestinians and the aboriginals) to see that when you dont put expectations on people to "climb", when you mistake love for allowing people to identify with victimhood and anger and regret and "me,me,me and my sad little story", those people fall straight off the narrow road to success and they go down. if you are in a racial minority and the do-gooders are trying to "help' you (and i use the word help loosely), then you will be screwed if you accept their help. the do-gooder does no good, the do gooder offers you a poisoned chalice. throw it back in his/her face |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:21am mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07am:
Clubs? Do they offer a membership fee discount for pensioners? :P |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:29am
Is racism encouraged?
well someone keeps feeding Herbert ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:30am mothra wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:00am:
Yeah - but I enjoyed it - rolls well off the tongue... if it makes you happy, we'll make it Kamel Kaffirs, to go with Kangaroo Kaffirs, Kraal Kaffirs, Kokonut Kaffirs.... you get the continental drift... BTW - you don't do sarcasm, do you? Besides - Middle Eastern isn't a race.... it's just another form of Gypo. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:54am
Does Mothra believe that words of racist insult are only the province of white folk against The Rest, and that the Chinese and others don't have insulting words for describing white folk?
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:08am Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:54am:
The word 'gook' is Korean for (stinking) foreigner.... US military personnel simply adopted the word.... |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gnads on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:21am Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:54am:
Yes ... plain & simple she & others do It makes them feel better about themselves. Self loathing takes a toll you know? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325502/Map-shows-worlds-racist-countries-answers-surprise-you.html |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:23am Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:21am:
you've got evidence of this, right? how pathetic that you have to start making crap up about people to try and prove your point. Someone should probably have told you by now that if you have to do that, your point was probably pretty poor to start with. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:35am Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:21am:
does calling someone a racist make the name caller a racist?? ::) ::).. its so handy to shut folks up just call them racists.... the fact the word racists is diminished doesnt matter at all.... I think we live in one of the fairest countries in the world....I would like to think everyone can have an opinion on just about everything without being called names...if and when you are being really slanderous then yes you are being racist....in the mean time..!!!!!! dont bring the meaning of a word down.. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gnads on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:44am John Smith wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:23am:
Making it up? Nah .... it's a label that's thrown about here "ad nauseam" or should I say " ad hominem" ( ;) ) by Peccar, Mothra, Brian & even yourself. The same with the use of the weasel word Islamphobe. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by aquascoot on Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:12am Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:44am:
yes, gnads, its very 'lower consciousness" its just a reaction by these folk who are asleep at the wheel of their own lives to blurt out this label. there is no thinking to it. i suppose its about as enlightened as when fat steve , sitting on the couch in a durr state burps or farts. thats how deep their thought processes are. i suspect, they get a little hit of dopamine every time they can do it and this helps feed the addiction of this emotional state |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:25am aquascoot wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:12am:
hummmmmmmmmm really?... I pui it down to when you do it/say it.or your own side says is.. its doesnt have half the meaning as when you are receiving it.. ::) ::) its like name calling in the playground...some folks of course think its a great insult... well it takes all kinds... ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Amadd on Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:37am Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:30am:
A German guy named Fritz. It's all tongue in cheek in the workplace, but that's not to say that there's no favouritism between races and nationalities. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:28am:
More help with welfare; Less expectation on doing job searches; No means testing when it comes to whether they need help during job searches or when they are living with their parents; Free taxi rides (welfare recipients only); Leniency during sentencing regarding violent behaviour; Less police willingness to arrest or prosecute for the same offences that would have white people arrested; Using their race to get people to feel sorry for their causes; Getting exclusive organisations solely for aboriginal benefit; and various other things that are not afforded to non-aboriginal people. Things like that. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Rhino on Apr 18th, 2017 at 1:14pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:41am:
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:04pm Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:44am:
blah blah blah ... nice try, but you missed by a mile. Put up a link to either myself, Mothra or Pecca ever saying that that words of racist insult are only the province of white folk against The Rest, and that the Chinese and others don't have insulting words for describing white folk? after all, that is what you agreed that she 'and others' do. Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:21am:
or did you not understand what you were agreeing to? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by John Smith on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:06pm aquascoot wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 10:12am:
what about labels such as 'beta', 'alpha' or 'a lower consciousness person' etc? is that you in your derrr state? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:27pm Gnads wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:21am:
Good research, Gonads - thanks for that. ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:31pm Amadd wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:47pm:
Tribalism based on ethnic appearance is strong in all cultures. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:35pm John Smith wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 7:29am:
Exactly. I'm only channeling other people ~ it doesn't come from me personally. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:40pm cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:35am:
I'm an avowed Social Racist/ Tribal Racist and have never made any bones about it, just the same as all those who stick-to-their-own in ethnic and racial ghettoes and enclaves like the Abos, Negroes, Chinese, Vietnamese, Indians, etc etc do who we have here in Sydney. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:28pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:41am:
Really? Evidence please... ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:33pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:08am:
While they did, that is not the meaning of the word in Korean which means "nationalist". ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:39pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:40pm:
Never been to old Elizabeth near Adelaide, have you, Herbie? Tsk, tsk... ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:29pm mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:07pm:
No, not silly at all if you cant enunciate adequately As for indonesians, it is an accurate description, what is the problem? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:32pm mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 11:11pm:
On this point I find I must agree. Regardless of their differences in attractiveness, both women are human beings. I would say with the same intellegence, except that we all know thats not true Blonds really are less intellegent. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:40pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:33pm:
Not what I heard... "a foreigner, especially a person of SE Asian descent." I guess that's just the way it has developed... "The word was used by U.S. Marines in the early 20th century;[1][2] the earliest written example is dated 1920.[3] Folk etymology suggests that during the Korean War, young Korean children would point at U.S. soldiers and shout in Korean 미국 (Miguk, “America”). Soldiers heard the word as “mee gook”, as if the children were defining themselves as “gooks”. The soldiers proceeded to use that term to refer to the Koreans. The word 국 (國, guk) itself simply means “country”. This explanation ignores the fact that there are many examples of the word's use that pre-date the Korean War." |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:45pm
THE LEAST RACIALLY TOLERANT COUNTRIES
40% + (of individuals surveyed would not want a person of another race as a neighbour) India, Jordan 30 - 39.9% Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Vietnam, Indonesia, South Korea 20 - 39.9% France, Turkey, Bulgaria, Algeria, Morocco, Mali, Zambia, Thailand, Malaysia, The Philippines, Bangladesh, Hong Kong THE MOST TOLERANT COUNTRIES 0 to 4.9% United States, Canada, Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Guatemala, Britain, Sweden, Norway, Latvia, Australia, New Zealand 5 - 9.9% Chile, Peru, Mexico, Spain, Germany, Belgium, Belarus, Croatia, Japan, Pakistan, South Africa 10 - 14.9%Finland, Poland, Ukraine, Italy, Greece, Czech Republic, Slovakia 15 - 19.9% Venezuela, Hungary, Serbia, Romania, Macedonia, Ethiopia, Uganda, Tanzania, Zimbabwe, Russia, China Source: World Values Survey Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2325502/Map-shows-worlds-racist-countries-answers-surprise-you.html#ixzz4eaJRgmpZ Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook I have to admit I find these notions a bit hard to believe... ::) ::) ::) Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:32pm:
you are looking for a smack in the head valkie. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Rhino on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:28pm:
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm
I think this thread is unclear as to its agenda.
Racism exists, in many cases either unintentionally, accidental or without them actually knowing they were racist. People who call and play the racism card often "percieve" racism where there was none or none intended. Which begs the question, (is it racist if the person just doesn't realise he/she is being "racist"?) Now, I have a preference for redheads, preferaby white, not because Im racist, but because I like redheads and I prefer a particular facial construct. The broad noses and large lips in some African females is not attractive to me. However, A good friend of mine is married to an extreemly attractive African woman, her facial construct is the way I like it and her hair is almost red, so obviously its not the colour that is the issue. But what this thread is about is justification of labeling those with issue with the CULT as racist. Which they are not. It is however right and just to be "selective" with who I dislike based on the things a particular group stands for, does, engages in or promotes. This is not racism.....this is good sense. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:49pm cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:45pm:
Why.......What I do Now????????? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:56pm Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
it is usually only an opinion...which for the most part is valueless...ask yourself if you were on a list for a transplant operation a matter of life or death,. would you stipulate a list of people you would never accept a donation from....when I see someone who had dialysis 3 times a week....I doubt any of those so called preferences would take precedence.. we live sometimes in a sad world where all we do is judge others... :( :( |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:56pm Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:49pm:
blonde jokes..... |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Rhino on Apr 18th, 2017 at 6:09pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 3:28am:
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 18th, 2017 at 6:14pm cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:56pm:
I have stipulated on my donor card a very specific requirement. No politicians........ But seriously, I refuse to be a donor because I dont trust the grubberment. If a polly or a rich bloke needed an organ, and I was not quite dead, I can see them knocking me over so they could be fixed up. I do however give blood regularly. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:00pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:39pm:
Tribal? I've just been explaining that people are tribal, Brian. Try to keep awake. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:04pm mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:49pm:
Don't we know it, petal, don't we know it! You have been challenged and you are not used to it, sweetheart. It must be such a shock to find yourself challenged. You snowflakes are not used to needing to actually explain your stupidity. I can't believe you would be so stereotypically idiotic and discombobulated. You are a parody of your idiotic lefty ignorant self without realising it. You are so thick and lack self-awareness to such a great extent that I feel sorry for you. You ARE stupid and unmoored beyond belief. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:12pm mothra wrote on Apr 17th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
Cheeses, you are a colossal thicko. Read out loud the highlighted bits, retard. You may be a godawful lefty moron but you ARE permitted to think for yourself, you ARE permitted to consider the context, the words, intention and generally you ARE permitted to consider a point before making a godawful f Vcking joke of yourself by responding to what nobody actually said. In short - don't be such a f Vcking mindless, stupid, reflexive idiot. I hope this helps. I know it won't but what do you have if you don't have hope??? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:22pm Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:04pm:
;D ;D ;D sugar bun. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:51pm cods wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:56pm:
I pray I never have to makeva choice or have the need. I would hate to think that my life was a result of someone elses death |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 19th, 2017 at 12:38am rhino wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
Tsk, tsk, Rhino. you misunderstand what I am asking about. I am asking about your claim that "White people, though, have shown to have had the most evolution of the entire human race in the last 30,000 years." What evidence do you have about that? Of course, you'll duck the question. I expect that but who knows, perhaps you might actually produce something for a change... ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 19th, 2017 at 12:40am Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 8:00pm:
Yet you didn't name your own "race", did you, Herbie? Tsk, tsk... ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 19th, 2017 at 12:41am Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Move along folks, move along, just some racism, you've read it all before. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:57am Frank wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 9:12pm:
Yes, Mother, you listen to Frank. I have, so I know. By context, words and intention, Frank means he wants to ban the tinted races from the beloved country he immigrated to. You know, the one that's inconveniently full of all these tinted races. But don't you worry, Frank has a plan. He's joining up with all these other immigrants to put a stop to it. Enough's enough. Beards, headscarves, tintedness, it's all intolerable and simply must go. Frank can't stand the sight of them. Otherwise Frank will be forced to move back to the old country, with all the other New Australians. Herbie, Bogie, the Mechanic, Sprintcyclist, poor Cods. And where would we all be then? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:04am rhino wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 6:09pm:
Is Abos-only jobs a benefit? You have to do a job. Benefits is getting something for nothing. Medical centres and legal aid are provided to the rest of the population too. Thanks for answering, Rhino, but I'm still curious. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:22am UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 12:14pm:
And the rest. At the time of the Redfern Riots it was discovered that no less than 100 charity shops, agencies, and organisations were clustered in and around that aboriginal ghetto in Sydney. And then the police were ordered not to advance into the ghetto and bang heads to make arrests lest this look too much like White Supremacist crackers givin' them niggars a hard time. Aborigines are Australia's Sacred Cows - allowed various concessions way beyond the mainstream, with the main one being no obligation to look for work in order to receive the dole. Urban Medical Centres that cater only to aborigines is another Special Consideration funded by the taxpayers of Australia. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by aquascoot on Apr 19th, 2017 at 6:51am Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:32pm:
there is a reason why blondes are less intelligent. blondes were in vogue as the more sexually desirable cohort. males (in their foolishness) tended to buy gifts and free meals for blondes and blondes (in their foolishness ) tended to accept these 'freebies". but remember when i said "you NEVER want a dollar you didnt earn"? well when you get freebies, you get lazy and laziness and cruising eventually become an addiction and now you are screwed by your own addiction to laziness (lower consciousness). the pimpley faced chinese girl with black hair and less curves does not have to carry the burden of this 'welfare" from men. she has the evolutionary blow torch applied to her every day. and she will study hard, hit the library. she will have to go into contribution to get attention. she will develop resilience , bust thru barriers, 1000's of reference experiences where she could have been a cry baby but instead she chose to use this injustice to fuel an upward spiral. and when blondie hits 45 , she will get some plastic surgery and become a bit of a joke and chinese girl will drive past in her merc and have a wry smile. Do you still think getting freebies is good for you? Do you still think its good to have it easy? ;) ;) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:22am:
Charity shops aren't government benefits either, Herbie. Nor is the police using negotiation to avoid a riot. Would anyone else care to have a stab? What benefits do Boongs get that Whitey doesn't? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:37pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:22am:
I'd have to say, in all fairness, that most Aboriginals live, by past forced eviction, in areas where the work is very hard to find, and urban medical centres cater to those who live nearby - Aboriginal or not. What I like to see is some of the professionals in those places being Aboriginal, up to and including doctors. It's not as simple as it sounds at first glance, Herb. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:37pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
Free access to sacred sites? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ye Grappler on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:39pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:04am:
Not normally - such jobs are specifically designed to meet an Aboriginal need and are culturally better handled by an Aboriginal - you still need the qualifications etc to do the job. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:05pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
Oh yes they are when the goods are paid for from cradle-to-grave government benefits. Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
"... to avoid a riot". The BBC Lefty who was reporting this Blacks on the Rampage event said "the riot police could do little" .... which was utter baloney and a case of deliberate misreporting. For 9 hours the line of Riot Police were ordered not to advance or respond in any way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iavMKc_CbjA |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by John Smith on Apr 19th, 2017 at 3:42pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
what a load of rubbish. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Rhino on Apr 19th, 2017 at 3:45pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 1:30pm:
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Rhino on Apr 19th, 2017 at 3:46pm John Smith wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 3:42pm:
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:42pm rhino wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 3:45pm:
By the government? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 19th, 2017 at 5:49pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 2:05pm:
An example of modern policing. Police don't like to send the riot squad in against football hooligans these days either. I'm still curious. How is the police response to threats against public order a government benefit? And what specific cradle to the grave government benefits are only available to Darkie? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 20th, 2017 at 2:09am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 4:28pm:
You should take Rhino's advice and google it. Neanderthals died off long ago, and homosapiens have been around for hundreds of thousands of years. Evolving throughout Europe as the surroundings change and force the people's genetics to adapt to the climate. 700 years ago, Europeans developed an immune system that could withstand what people in other regions today would struggle to overcome. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:03pm UnSubRocky wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 2:09am:
Want to bet on that? I remember travelling through India many years ago when the passenger on the train beside me noticed me watching some kids in a paddy field. "If you drank that water like they are, you'd be dead in a day or two." Their resistance is many times higher to diseases we have all but eliminated from our societies. Disease resistance is evolutionary but on a micro-scale, not the macro which is what is being discussed here. Individuals develop it, societies develop it but they also lose it once the disease is eliminated from the environment. No one has developed an evolutionary resistance to Plague, to Rabies, to Smallpox, etc. UnSubRocky. Vaccination has helped but it is an artificial resistance, introduced artificially into our species from outside. Today we are facing the anti-Vaxxers who want to destroy that. 800 years ago, the environment was dirty, unhygienic and rife with diseases we have largely eliminated from our purvey. We have cleaned up our homes, our workplaces and ourselves. It has had little if anything to do with "evolution" as Darwin defined it. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:37pm
Strap yourselves in for a long read...
Ok... flap me... So I only just stumbled upon this thread and I had no idea my honest question to the mods would spark this. To start I will try to make my position on the matter clear. We are a progressive society and as such we should not be controlling ideas or thoughts. Debate is important and we need informed debate if we're ever going to continue to advance as a people, not just Australians but the Human Race in general. Not to drag things off topic but some of the PC culture by the perpetually butthurt in universities etc is just ridiculous. That said, there is a point in debate and exchanging of ideas where language and context starts to put an end to what would be considered debate and the protections of such end. Now I've just finished reading all the posts in this thread and at least my original intention for asking the question wasn't to spark this sort of "debate" but more so to get a better understanding of these boards. I had wondered if I had stumbled onto a place on the internet where racism is condoned and promoted, because rules aside, that's what this place seems like. It was an honest question to the mods. As I said, I’ve just finished reading this thread and boy did this degrade and fast... It seems this thread has attracted those who get angry when they're called a racist because they use racial slurs or people misrepresent their hatred and bigotry towards a certain religious followers as racism. Then they go on to play some sort of pseudo intellectual thought experiment to legitimise their hate by claiming there is only a "human race" therefore one can’t be a “racist” and Islam is not a race, therefore I can say and do what I like and I'm not a racist. Then there are people saying they want to have sex with women of another race so they can't be racist, while using racial slurs in the same post? There are so many things wrong with that I don't even know where to begin... How warped are you bloody people..!? All the people getting triggered and trying to defend themselves or laughing of all the times they've been called a racist, you can't honestly think you're not a acist right? Sure, there are some people that throw that label around all too often that it loses all meaning, but the language, the intent and the context of how many of the people in this thread post, it’s smacking racist as hell! Like you're not that deep into the echo chamber with the people you surround yourself with that you're so racist you can't even see it? How bloody stupid or inbred are you people!? I’m not going to address everything because I’ll get enough hate as it is, and to be honest there is just far too much going on, but, Amadd wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 2:39am:
Fighting racism with racism, that's racist... Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:29pm:
Being oblivious to your own racism or not realising you’re using racial slurs is no excuse Val. Valkie wrote on Apr 18th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
That certainly wasn’t my original intent with asking the question, but it seems to be the MO for most people to excuse their hate and bigotry around here. Classic deflection. aquascoot wrote on Apr 19th, 2017 at 6:51am:
Scoot, you’re one of the most messed up people on here with the most bizarre world views I’ve encountered in all my years that I’m just going to give you a wide berth here… I’ve heard enough about alpha males and your take on women. It does however point to some serious issues that I know the thought of seeking help is what a “fat steve” would do, but before you neck yourself when you can no longer cut it being such a manly man and all, please get help. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:41pm
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Frank wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 9:35pm:
You're trying to use science you don't understand to give you an excuse to hate on differing ethnic groups. I think you've misjudged who is out of their depth Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 10:04pm:
I’m not racist, but “curryshitter”, “Muzzo” etc etc… Good one. Nice approach to women to. I’ve lived and worked for many year in Singapore. They have a very diverse people with different ethnicities, religions and hierarchy. I’ve seen the good and the bad, but as a white man, an Australian white man some more, I was not in the “controlling group”. Most of my fellow Australians that I encountered there gave us a terrible name. Our reputation, minus that of our armed service men and women (when on duty at least) isn’t worth much due to our own actions abroad. Here at home, we can treat other like poo, marginalise and publicly hate on people of different ethnic backgrounds or faiths often sparked by or at least fueled by the media and unless someone has a camera we generally get away with it. Try that in somewhere like Singapore and you’re in trouble. There are too many Australians that are mistaken into to thinking far to highly of ourselves. And I’m not trying to be unAustralian or “check your privilege” nonsense, and like any diverse culture there are ways, there are thing we do better, but it’s not everything and we all have a lot to learn. To those who have the option, I would love to see almost a requirement that before someone starts University or TAFE/apprenticeship, they take a gap year and live and work abroad, especially in some of our neighbouring countries in SE Asia. Australia is at risk of becoming a giant backwards echo chamber watching the world progress while we are so easily manipulated into worrying about head scarves or Halal certification on Vegemite or Easter Eggs… There is no point in being racist for the sake of it, just like there is no point in calling anyone you don’t agree with when the topic involves Islam or an ethnic group a racist, but both happens in the real world and it certainly happens here too. I live in Queensland, the further north and inland you go, the less informed and more racist people are. The populist nationalist movement is preying on that to try and legitimise this nonsense and make it mainstream and it will only set us backwards. It might make the ignorant sleep better at night, but it achieves nothing positive in the long term. That said, this is all delving a little too far off the intended topic, at least of my thread in the feedback forum (link). The more I read, the more it seems that this has become a place where entitled middle aged and older white men come to complain about the brown people, or the <insert racial slur here>. The rules make it clear that this was never the intention of the board, but the moderation and enforcement of the rules is counter to that, hence my original question. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:45pm |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 20th, 2017 at 6:15pm x2 |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 20th, 2017 at 6:30pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 6:15pm:
x3 ... but with a few things I would argue with. Good rant. Well done. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 20th, 2017 at 7:20pm
Islam is not a race...........it is a political CULT
I stand by this statement. I dont care what colour, race or where you are from, it matters not. But I do oppose the brutal, primitive and political invasion of a CULT that takes everything but gives nothing back It demands respect, but gives no respect There is a difference between race and religion and the CULT uses this tiny loophole to justify its barbarity, primitive practices and its isolationist practices. Why do you think that this CULT attracts all of the worst kinds of people? Criminals, pedophiles, murderers, sociopaths, you name it and they flock to this CULT. The evidence is there to see, except that the islamophiles either refuse to see it or deliberately avoid it because it does not fit in with their agenda. Look at Australia as an example. In our gaols we have islamic conscription in a big way. We have schools dedicated to islamic codes, including ignorance to women and radicalism. We have isolationist practices and pack rapes by gangs of CULTISTS. We see protests, over anything and everything, and always calling for murder, beheading and sharia law. We have our laws ignored and our courts insulted We have a higher rate of welfare fraud by these people and recently a whole range of insurance fraud. Hell, we even have a crime squad dedicated to these people, for such a small number, they really make themselves felt don't they? Racist, bullshite, this is a tool used by the CULT as a get out of gaol card, a way to justify their many fails. And who is more bigoted than the CULT? Noone, thats who. In the countries ruled by the CULT there are no other religions tolerated, isnt that racism????? Genocide, ethnic and religious cleansing, this is the CULT And if you have trouble believing that its not political. Just look at the recent election in a certain country where the CULT brought up some trumped up blasphemy charges so it could win and get in charge. Look around, see what is happening around the world. Not everyone sees the CULT as a good thing, in fact many are sorely sorry they even encountered it. I will get a short post from Bwyannnn calling me a islamaphobe and telling people to move along. This is simply because he cannot dispute the truth, so its fingers in the ears and na na na na na na |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 20th, 2017 at 8:09pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
This is a stupid argument, this pseudo-science stuff. You do not need science to realise that people are different. And no matter how many times silly arses like Aussie or Brian repeat that 'race is not scientific', race remains a cultural and ethnic and social reality There are evident differences between the cultures, customs, values etc of various ethnic groups and many of these significant differences map onto ethnicity. The hutus and the tutsis massacred each other along ethic lines, the Burmese and the Bagladeshis are doing the same. The Sudanese immigrants are completely different to the Chinese or the Japanese. Greeks are not Germans, Arabs are not Jews. Indians are awful to the Africans. It's no good for immigrants expecting the locals to be sensitive to their ways, immigrants must be even more sensitive to the ways and expectations of locals. Flouting, or even being unaware of your incompatible ways will not win you friends, EVEN if you shout 'racism' every time your ways are not accepted or liked. You don't need to grow a stupid bears and put your wife in a niqab to be unacceptable to most people. You can put on a suit but if you still smell of stale curry on the morning commute, you have not fitted in. Salim Mehajer may have money and and not smell of curry, but he still just doesn't fit in. Successful immigrants make a massive effort to assimilate. The ones who do not make an effort tend to blame everyone else and relish their supposed 'victimhood'. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 20th, 2017 at 8:24pm
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 20th, 2017 at 8:59pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:41pm:
Why is it OK to encourage ethnic immigrants to keep their own culture but not your white Queenslanders, who also want to keep their own white Australian culture? And if it's OK to piss on them as 'racists and ignorant', why not piss on every other ethnic group that wants to keep its own culture? Why is it it OK to have ethnic identity but not a nationalist Australian identity? Every identity is encouraged except the main one. Why? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:07pm Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 8:59pm:
If you think white Australians "ethnic identity" is to be intolerant and racist then I'd only be wasting my time trying to explain how utterly stupid the notion of your false equivalency is. That said, if someone is choosing to live here and be an Australian they should be expected to integrate into our society, but there should always be a place for them to keep their culture and their beliefs so long as they are within the law (aka no child brides, multiple wives, prevention of girls being educated etc). There is a sane middle ground, you don't always have to assume those who don't agree with you are as far off the scale as you are, but in the opposite direction... Quote:
I think you're projecting your own fears and insecurities to the greater population. Edit: Left out quote |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:07pm Quote:
How many links to Turdfull telling us we are the most successful multicultural Country on the Planet would you like, even right up to and including today? 8-) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm
The problem is that we have Australians who are so eager to ingratiate with foreigners for the presumed gratitude and approval this elicits from them that they won't be satisfied until Australian society resembles an international airport lounge - which is pretty much what Sydney looks like today.
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:09pm
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:11pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
Like Turdfull, and every other Politician in Canberra? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:42pm Valkie wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Perhaps my rant being big enough to necessitate 2 posts scared you away from reading it. The racism that I was referring to was straight up racism. Nothing to do with religion or Islam. That's a type of bigotry all of it's own. You seem to be the only one arguing this and you're arguing with yourself. The Muslim faith is a tricky subject. It's complicated at best. I personally have a problem with all religion and especially those who indoctrinate the weak with it, and those who take it a step further and use it to control others, radicalise the brainwashed and commit atrocities in it's name. For centuries throughout our history this was done by all religions, including Christianity. They had somewhat of a re-branding with the New Testament, but there are still plenty of Old Testament people who use that to justify ridiculous claims such as a Husband cannot rape his wife because in the eyes of the lord, in marriage she does not have the right to refuse her body to her husband or the justification of slavery, even some of the horrible things we see in the Christian African nations when it comes to homosexuals. Some say Islam is no worse than other religions, but I can't agree with that either. If people took a literal interpretation of the Christian books and it was enforced as the law of the land, such as Sharia Law, and there were no secular balance things would be horrible, but a different kind of horrible. Thankfully like Christianity, the majority of educated practicing Muslims pick and choose what parts of their texts they adhere to and in the western world, they reject those that would put them in jail if they didn't. But it took Christianity/Catholicism centuries to get where they are now from their "dark ages" and they're still full of kiddie fiddlers and men trying to hole power over women. An enlightened society comes from education and understanding. Taking an uninformed stance against Islam or any religion is, on a philosophical level, no better than those extremists who commit horrific acts in the name of an extreme interpretation of any given faith. (Obviously in the real world, the two cannot be compared) I've read both Testaments and an english translation of the Quran and while I feel "more informed", I still only have part of the story, part of the picture. It's what people who abuse their interpretations of it that cause the most damage that I have the greatest knowledge gaps. You could cherry pick and take all the good for the Quran, live you life by those rules and you would be one of the better people in the world. But when you have people calling for the death of those who draw their prophet, or stone women accused of being adulterous, the key is what those in a position of "religious power" abuse their texts and push their ideas of control of others and this only highlights the complexity of the issues. I wouldn't go as far as calling Islam a cult no more than I would call any other religion a cult, BUT, the extremists who try to justify their actions with religion, they and their followers/indoctrinated are acting whether willingly or unknowingly as a political cult much like how you've described it. But those who practice their faith and are good people far outweigh the extremists. We should be empowering them, especially the women, to speak out against the extremists, not bundling them all together in such an ignorant fashion. That will only make things worse. Quote:
I won't call you an islamaphobe and I honestly believe your position comes from a genuine concern, but you could certainly benefit from informing yourself better on the subject and not take such a primitive stance on such a complex issue. Again however, that is not the topic of this thread. Unfortunately, on topic, if this thread was a honeypot to prove or disprove the original question, that being do these forums, their mods and their owners encourage racism, given some of the outright hate and vitriol posted and let remain in this thread alone, I'm worried for what the answer may be. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
But you're assuming that we have a long standing culture of our own. I've had trouble getting people to even tell me what they consider "Australian Cuisine" let alone culture. Unless you talk of Indigenous Australians we don't go back that far and what we go back to isn't much to write home about. I love my country and I'm not trying to be unAustralian, but think about the question for a minute. It's not one easily answered. That's no excuse to abandon everything and introduce Sharia Law or anything, but if anything what has made Australia great over the years has been the people who've been here and done great things, even if it's just for their own families or communities. Since the abolition of the White Australia policy and our intake of refugees over the decades the benefits of our multiculturalism have outweighed the teething problems. But there will always be those who don't like change and yes, we shouldn't forget who we are, but we need to know who we are first. If it's a bunch of racist assholes who will blame everyone else but themselves for all their problems then perhaps it's time to be unAustralian. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
I'm a mod and I'd like you to show if I have encouraged it. I do not like racism but as I stated in the beginning, speaking for myself, I'm not the thought police and have no intention of moving that way. All voices should be heard, none silenced, and let the cards fall where they may. edit: I could be classed as a culturalist. I do not believe all cultures are equal. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
You are avoiding the question by arbitrarily painting a host culture that wants to preserve itself as racist and another, incoming one that wants to perpetuate itself in a new and essentially different culture as not racist and ignorant and fearful and the rest. I think if you come here from the other side of the world and want to keep playing as if you were still over there and the culture here was not worth every effort of assimilataing into - even though you were not forced to come here -, well, then you are a worse racist than the locals who just want you to fit in and not protest your dog's balls ('"sticking out like...') pride . |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:05pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
This is just silly. You assert a bunch of untestable platitudes (multiculturalism has more benefits than drawbacks) and at the same time wonder what Australian culture is or where it comes from or what has made it what it is - something that is very much more evident and obvious than your silly, empty platitudes about multiculturalism. And you do this in a very banal and long-winded way. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:15pm Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
See I didn't do that, and I even suggested that you'd not understand an answer even if I gave one, which I did and you didn't: SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
Try reading it again. Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
I don't think you know what racist means... I agree that there are problems with people choosing to live here even if they've done so legally who don't make any attempt at integration, but it sounds like, unless you didn't read what I wrote, that you want them to completely abandon their own culture and replace it with ours. And you want to call them racist? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:16pm Frank wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:05pm:
I'll try to keep things short and sweet if that helps, what part of our culture is at risk? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by UnSubRocky on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:31pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
Every year, the elderly and aborigines are asked to get influenza vaccines. Remember, aborigines are not considered European. Many aborigines are biracial with admixture of European genetics. But because of a low/modest immune resistance to disease, aborigines are encouraged to get vaccinations. Only in the last week, the entire town of Rockhampton was on alert to a measles epidemic potential from a person who walked in an infected state through one of the main shopping centres. I had measles when I was 15 years old, and was not concerned due to my immunity from it since then. But I can bet that there are those out there who are not of my racial background who would have died from measles. I spoke to an Indonesian man, many years ago. He told me that the cold virus was such a near non-existent threat to Indonesia, that Indonesians only get an outbreak during the southern hemisphere winter when Australian tourists (mostly) cough and splutter on planes and at tourists resorts and through parts of the cities. Because Indonesians have an outdoors culture, and like to keep their homes breezy all year around (basically no winter there). But even a disease that spreads through closed spaces can be devastating in Indonesia. Citizenry there can be crippled by the common cold. I have had all kinds of illnesses growing up. Last week, I got the symptoms of a cold sore virus that quickly dissipated. Learned several years ago to treat it with lime juice. Did not have a problem since then until last week. I bet that people around the world, even those with the same kind of access to health services are unable to fight off disease as well as people of my own racial background. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Dnarever on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:32pm Gordon wrote on Apr 16th, 2017 at 7:52pm:
Not often that the first reply is just to abuse the poster of the topic ? Maybe have a think about how it reflects .........? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Dnarever on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:34pm Quote:
When it is exploited in order to win elections it is almost certain to spread through society at all levels. It is particularly strong here. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:38pm Setanta wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:57pm:
Thanks for the reply. My understanding of the rules is that gratuitous attack on a racial group are not allowed. I'm not saying that any exchange of ideas should be restricted upon the topic of race, or policies dealing with race or migration, in fact doing so would be a disservice to everyone here. But when people use terms like "Head N---- In Charge" (or Ex-HNIC now) when talking about Obama, casually using racial slurs like chincs or wanting to smell radiated yello flesh in the morning, "squint lovers", gooks etc etc in the context of attacking other posters or their family, and all of that doesn't get moderated, one has to wonder have these boards grown too big for the current mod team, or is this sort of thing condoned? I'm not accusing the mod team of anything, far from it, I just wanted to know where the board stands on this in general. I'm all for free speech, but people should be held to account for the things they say. I would agree with you on the notion of cultures too. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:52pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:38pm:
I would take the racial abuse rule as against other members rather than making comments that others may consider racist in general. To be honest I haven't seen much of that towards members. edit: I see the rule you mean now. Unfortunately there are the rules up the top bar and the rules in feedback. Quote:
Well I can say there is too much for me to go through, unless it's reported I'm unlikely to see most of what goes on. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:03pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:32pm:
Well, that was Gregs first day back after a week break and he came out of the blocks personally abusing just about everyone. What I said was about 10% what he was dishing up to others so tough. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:23pm
Kanga. Absolutely love your work. Spot on.
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:45am mothra wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:23pm:
I find him a breath of fresh air too. I hope he is not too sensitive though. Political discourse needs to hear all views. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:49am Valkie wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 7:20pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Just move along folks, move along. Nothing new here, just the same old tired Islamophobia. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:04am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:49am:
I agree with some of what you say Brian but this stuff is not a breath of fresh air. It's tedious and trite. Don't blame it on others, it's your choice, you could put your mind to work and come up with better. Look at Unforgiven, at least he's entertaining a pity he uses it to abuse others rather than point out the errors in their ways. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:11am Setanta wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:04am:
Setanta, I agree that Sad 'Roo's stuff is a breath of fresh air. My stuff? It's old, it's tired, perhaps I need new writers? I dunno, do you know where I can get some to work for nothing? ::) More seriously, I am just fed up with the same tired old ad hominem insults, the same tired old bigoted Islamophobia. Nothing I have ever said, nothing anybody has ever said will change these peoples' minds. They aren't interested in learning the truth, they just want to hate, they just want to insult. Well, I identify their posts for what they are. When they stop, I'll stop. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:17am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 1:11am:
I don't think you should look at changing their minds. I think you should look towards the people that read the discourse. If your only answer is yawn, while they put their views forward, what do you pass on? Certainly not an argument for your point of view and how you see the world, how it should be. You come across as someone to ignore. If you are going to take the soap box, speak, don't yawn and fall asleep. Yawn, seen it all before, catch you tomorrow to say the same! |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:08am SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 10:15pm:
It's the silly Vicky Pollard yeah-but-no-but argument. I do not want to make a place of every culture's every aspect in this country. I do not want them to think they can keep their culture in toto because large parts of their culture - the bits that makes them different -are bad and are not to be encouraged or tolerated. I want them to consciously abandon the backward, inferior, out of place aspects of their cultures, not to 'integrate' these aspects into our lives. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:18am Aussie wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:07pm:
It's a platitude nobody believes. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:32am SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
That's precisely what we do have, as derived from Britain and Ireland. The bones of Australia's core culture came over from the UK and is many hundreds of years old, and is pretty much why countries of the Anglo-sphere are the success story that they are today, and why over 300 different foreign nationalities have for the past 100 years or so been abandoning their ancient homelands to join the Brits in their various colonies and in their various guises. SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:49pm:
I see you bought the whole package - the whole nine yards of self-negation, self-belittlement, self-immolation, self-effacement, and self-flagellation as a White generational Australian, and most probably have cultivated this nihilist Anglo-Australian posture in order to ingratiate with, and garner the gratitude of, the Third World foreigners who now live among us in their millions. In this you are certainly not alone, and is a core feature of Leftwing social ideology where immigrants are concerned. Instead of rhetorically asking others to explain what Australian culture is and what is our cuisine, why not go one better and work these things out for yourself with a positive attitude rather than with a defeatist attitude that you would very well know will win you the gratitude and smiling approval of your ethnic friends? You need to get off your knees, become emotionally independent of ethnic approval, and start standing up for your own generational heritage and success story. The passive-receptive ploy for winning friends among our ethnic neighbours and acquaintances is the easiest of all strategies for winning cheap popularity, with meanwhile the hardest being to promote your own cultural heritage as proudly and loudly just as much as they do at every opportunity. Don't be a wimp when it comes to facing down boastful ethnics with your own tool-box of Australian cultural and kitchen credits to be proud of. I started working with ethnics of different nationalities in the immigrant factories of Sydney in 1962, with nearly all of them being smaller in stature than your average Australian. Years later I worked with their sons and daughters who were 6-footers and over because they ate 'Australian food' ... with plenty of meat-and-three-veggies ... and not the goat's cheese, rabbit greens, pasta, and tomatoes their antecedents grew up on. Posing as a self-belittling white Anglo-Aussie with a bended knee to ethnic culture and cuisine may win you some cheap applause from your ethnic friends to begin with, but this attitude doesn't last, and soon turns into contempt for your betrayal of your own people and your own heritage - as it means you are not to be trusted by them either. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:41am Frank wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 8:18am:
It's an empty boast which begs the question: Why did our political class give away our socially and demographically unified and harmonious national identity for a few shekels of silver via indiscriminate immigration policy? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:01am Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:32am:
So we have a borrowed culture then? Doesn't that mean we're still in the process of shaping who we are? I believe I know what it means to "be Australian" and I'm proud of that, but it's hardly "culture". I've seen what culture is from the various places I've lived around the world and in many cases it dates back thousands of years. We have a couple of centuries and like any colonial settlement born nation, there is a lot sweep under the rug. Quote:
It may have come off that way reading it all back, but that wasn't my intention. It's an honest question. From my personal experience, I'm the second generation of my family born here with my grandparents migrating in the early 1900's with English, Irish, Scottish and a dash of Greek (which upon arrival here was quickly shed to the point of even changing surnames stand out less) heritage . Much of what I understand to be "Australian Culture" isn't so much Australian but borrowed mainly from the above. Perhaps our cultural identity is still being formed? We clearly already identify aspects of others we like then call it our own? Maybe that is the natural progression? Quote:
Well it wasn't a rhetorical question. Out in the real world and even in the media, I see people demanding that immigrants adopt our culture or even go as far as to be forced to shed their own and replace it with ours, but when those making these demands are asked what that means, what is our culture that they have to adopt, they cannot answer it. Sure some jokingly (I hope) say they've got to eat meat pies and love the footy, and then? I'm not alone in that, you just seem to take issue with me not having a rock solid answer because you think I'm a socialist leftie begging for the approval of my leftie and ethnic friends. I certainly don't see you offering any answers to those questions. Rather cheap and hypocritical of you there. If my problem is that I'm of "bent-knee", yours seems to be a stubbornness and pigheadedness spawned from a sense of superiority. There has to be a middle ground which is what I'm trying to find. If you can't or don't want to help me form my understanding of what our culture is that's fine, just be careful your high horse doesn't trample all over you in the process. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:36am SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:01am:
Please leave the affected 'disingenuous' posturing to Karnal as his favourite schtick - not yours. It's a tiresome form of rhetoric and sarcasm that's best left with our latte set and those who live in Granville, Sydney, among the Great Unwashed. All cultures are derived from antecedents who lived in former times, and who in many cases lived oceans away. Your question "So we have a borrowed culture then?" would suggest you are opposed to asking our millions of immigrants to assimilate into the Australian culture as this would be tantamount to asking of them that they live by a borrowed culture - ours. You've painted yourself into a corner here. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:48am Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:36am:
And you didn't answer the question. But that aside, I do agree that those who choose to migrate here should adopt our culture, I made that clear. I'm just saying however, if A Current Affair for example stopped me in the street and shoved a camera in my face, asked me the same question then followed that up with "So if you think they should adopt our culture, what is our culture that they should adopt", I'd be hard up to answer it without looking like an ignorant fool. I honestly would like to know what others think about it, but perhaps that's a topic for another thread. The trend of so many threads getting dragged way off topic here also runs me. That said, you've gone out of your way to avoid answering that question which says enough. Go me all you like but don't pretend you've not decided to distract away from that. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 21st, 2017 at 3:30pm Gordon wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:03pm:
;D ;D ;D And no doubt he's tired-but-happy now. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:43pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:48am:
Well, you didn't need a lot of scratching to be revealed as being the same self-contradictory and superficial Vicky Pollard as the rest of them. With further points deducted for being a long-winded and self-contradictory Vicky. You tried on the 'we have no culture', then it was 'borrowed culture' then it's 'they should adopt our culture'. I can only credit you for the quickest climb down. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:56pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:48am:
Too much Guardian, Fairfax and ABC and Waleed Ali, I say. You have been going along with what you thought are your betters so as to not think about who YOU actually are. Australia has one of the world's oldest constitutions. Such political and social and cultural stability doesn't come from a lack of culture, a lack of identity, a lack of self-awareness even if you, in your ignorance, would be hard pressed to articulate where it comes from. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Karnal on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:08pm Frank wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:43pm:
As you can see, Sad, the old boy's new to our ways. As an upwardly aspiring new Australian, he's yet to learn our relaxed, egalitarian ethos. We've all tried to help the old boy loosen his sphincter muscles, to no avail. The old boy still carries unexploded stool from WWII. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:08pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 10:32am:
Just so. Cultural confidence is nor racist, it's not bigoted, especially when it's confidence about an evidently better culture, such as Australia's compared to most immigrants' cultures. A funny thing - people from culturally compatible countries have a much higher regard for Australia than people from culturally distant countries, many if not most being cultural wastelands and/or hell-holes. Many such people will never forgive Australia for not being hell-hole also. Muslims figure significantly in this cohort. They can't forgive kuffars for being better than what Muslim have been able to achieve. It's like the joke: the Germans will never forgive the Jews for Auschwitz. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:12pm Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:08pm:
There you go, Sad Kangaroo, this is the kind of intellectual ally you have - a Marx and Foucault reading Pakistani pederast. He is your cultural ally and champion. Sad Kangaroo, indeed. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:26pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 9:42pm:
Cheeses, you must be lonely!! Who would listen to all this hot air?? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:44pm Frank wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 5:43pm:
;D He didn't use a ladder - he used a fireman's pole to hit the floor running to the nearest kebab shop. This 'We have no culture' rationalisation for capitulating to mass immigration after WWII has been the first refuge of self-annihilating cowards in every country of the Anglosphere. Check out the British, American, and Australian literature of past and present. Check out the music, semi-classic and bogan. The theatre plays and movies. The dance and sport. The social ethics and etiquette. The national ethos. The political arena. These are all our Anglo/Celtic heritage in Australia, with a lot of 'mongrel' and larrikin thrown in to keep us from all going gay ... |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:57pm
Australia has a culture, its called a Multiculture, Herbie and Soren.
Australian colonial culture is a subculture of that Multiculture. Just as are all the other subcultures. Australian Multiculture is a mixture of all the subcultures. All subcultures are equal. Time to catch up with the 21st century Australian society, boys and girls. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 21st, 2017 at 7:01pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 12:49am:
Ta da....... The child awaketh. Islamophile |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:17pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:57pm:
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You stupid, deranged old hag! Where does 'Multiculture' come from, you demented old biddy? What are its cultural manifestations, its philosophy, art, poetry, architecture, literature, shared history, customs, habits, unspoken shared bonds, revered and shared roots? To muse like sad old kangaroo bollocks - is it home grown, is it inherited, is it adopted? Multicultural - whatever you want it to mean, whatever you want to EXCLUDE from meaning it - it is the mindless idiot's alpha and omega. You will start there, you will go through every argument rejecting its validity, and you will STILL end up there. Multiculti is the position for those like you who have grown tired of thinking and of life and have become, in the process, resentful of who and what they are. You are culturally and personally sick and dying, Brian, and you just trying to make a virtue out of resignation to being insignificant an pointless. Well, f Vck you, Brian, I am not passing on your morbid, evil idiocy to my sons. You are dying, they are the future. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:23pm
Not including kitchen recipes, Brian, which Third World immigrant culture do you enjoy in your home?
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:18pm Valkie wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 7:01pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Move along folks, nothing of interest here, nothing at all. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:19pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:23pm:
All of them, Herbie. I watch SBS. ;) Which ones do you enjoy? British? Chinese? Raj? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2017 at 11:21pm Frank wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 9:17pm:
Move along folks, move along, it's just the same old, tired bigotry from Soren. Nothing of interest to see here. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:54am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2017 at 6:57pm:
Naivety or left-wing posturing? The latter I suspect. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:07am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:54am:
Yet not one person has proposed an alternative view of what they consider to be our culture. I would really like to know what others think. But no, just silence and personal attacks. I've tried asking nicely but it's time to put up or shut up. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:09am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:54am:
Or just accurate, |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:17am SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:07am:
You've said you've spent time abroad, so you should have some idea of the differences between cultures. One of the things I learnt being overseas is that Australia has a very liberal political culture, in that we can say almost anything without repercussion. We are also quite liberal in regards to sexual issues, clothing and religion (although this last one is changing). We are sports mad - whether in participation or as viewers. We value leisure time. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:18am SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:07am:
Kanga, you're dealing with people who just don't like it. They don;t even know why they just don't like it. I suppose the closest they can come to just not liking it is because it is different. They honestly don''t have an argument beyond this ... at least, not one that holds any water. They live in a perpetual state of fear. Like our fore-father did with the (insert demographic here). The influx of (insert demographic here) will mean we are all going to be under Sharia Law ... or cart our daughters off for FGC or child marriages. They have no faith t all in their own autonomy. They have no faith at all in the "Australian culture" they are pimping so hard. They consider themselves lambs to the slaughter. How do you reason with such people? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:19am mothra wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:09am:
No. Just no. Feminists like yourself can only thrive in Western countries. Cultures are not equal. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:21am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:19am:
Feminists exist all the world over Mistie. It's just our struggles are different. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:38am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:17am:
All of that I agree with, but again, I'm going to say something that will be vastly misrepresented but I'm going to say it anyway. The things you've mentioned seem a little less like what I would define as "culture" after experiencing the things thought of as "culture" in India, China, Singapore etc. No doubt things like sports mad, sexual and political freedoms etc are the closest thing we would have to culture, it just seems like our culture in your opinion is something more akin to what people would jokingly, or angrily claim is "unaustralian", like the way Shorten eats a hotdog or things like not liking the outdoors or not eating tomato sauce with everything. (Clarification: it's the opposite of what is "unaustralian" I meant) That said, I like that things aren't so entrenched in the way that happens over centuries in other cultures and certain practices that are old wives tales can slowly be shed as we know more, but things like "confinement" after childbirth, the diet and bathing restrictions that don't stack up to scientific scrutiny, but try telling that to an Chinese grandmother controlling her daughter. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:46am mothra wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:21am:
Feminists like Dworkin, Greer or Butler could not, and do not, exist in some cultures. Cultures are not equal. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:50am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:46am:
Why do women need to be "like" anyone else at all? Feminists exist all over the place. It is my argument that they should be nurtured, not negated. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:57am
You're changing the issue. It's 'cultures are equal/unequal' remember?
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:59am Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:57am:
No. I have never argued that. For or against. Would you be putting words in my mouth, Mistie? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:01pm mothra wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:59am:
Yawn. Reply 226. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:08pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:07am:
Culture is an indefinable context. its like describing pleasure, what some see as pleasurable either abhors or excites others. Culture is like that, what some see as culture, others see as traits or weaknesses, sometimes strengths. Australian culture is vastly different from any other on the planet. I have traveled all over the world, seen many places, met and lived with many people. I do not consider myself a "Cultured" person, I am just an observer. But to me, Australian culture is definable. Aussie culture is a "Have a go" attitude. "Look after the mates." "Laugh at ourselves." We, as a race, are a mixture of many other races. Australians are the brave who traveled from other countries to a distant and foreign land. People who brought us wonderful food, wonderful things and who themselves became more Australian than Australians who have lived here all their lives. They came to a land with many excesses and a people who will fight with you one minute and then buy you a beer afterward, no grudges, they contributed and became Australian. We are an easy going lot, we take and we give generously. We stick together, the best of Australia is always seen at the worst possible times. A cyclone, a flood and drought and Australians come from everywhere to help, not seeking reward, just being Australian. Australia has more volunteer organisations, giving freely, than anywhere else on earth. When you insult us we laugh, but when provoked we fight, and we fight hard. We are known throughout the world as amazingly effective in battle and a few Aussies have held off far more than could reasonably be expected. We are Australians. We are rascals, we poke authority in the eye and laugh, while at the same time respecting the law of the land. You want a clear, definitive answer to your question, what is Australian culture? You will never get one, its impossible. But times are changing. Recent arrivals are putting Australia and Australians against each other. Some see the danger, others, as always want to see the good in everybody. But our recent arrivals do not like us, they do not like our culture. They refuse our laws and refuse to contribute. They bring with them baggage, baggage that is infecting the Australian way of a fair go for all. This new Culture of hate, political espionage and invasion is starting to take its toll on Australian culture. I only hope it does not destroy it. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:17pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:01pm:
You know that's not an argument, right? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:18pm
Your semantics don't fool me.
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:21pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:18pm:
What semantics? I've been straight as a line. Can you not address the issue? No bells and whistles ... just straight up. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 2:47pm Valkie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:08pm:
Are we confusing our values with our culture? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:01pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:07am:
How about you ask Leftwingers like Brian Ross, Mothra, Leftwing, Karnal, John Smith, Gregg, Aussie, Bojack, Unforgiven, Gandalf et al to give you a brief summary of what they believe is Australian culture as derived from this country's British forebears. That's a nice round 10 of them who should be happy to answer your question. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:25pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:01pm:
I want to hear from everyone. This isn't a competition. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:32pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:54am:
As far as the Australian Government is concerned, all cultures are equal, CW. As I've mentioned, time to catch up with the 21st century way of thinking. Racism/Culturism/bigotry is so early 20th century. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Fireball on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:37pm
Is racism encouraged by Islam.........of course it is, just ask bwian......tsk tsk.....
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:40pm
I think everyone should have an equal right to their own culture, but not all cultures are equal.
But choosing to become an Australian Citizen should mean an adoption of our culture and an attempt to integrate, but, it shouldn't mean they have to totally shed their own culture. When it comes to values, that's different. Living here as a citizen means you should respect and adhere to our values which in most cases shouldn't be hard since much of our legal system is based of what is "reasonable" which is guided by our values. There is some grey area in the overlap (with values and cultural differences, not the law), but it's pretty straight forward. But given this topic was about blatant racism and how it is dealt with by the mods, I won't take part in any further discussion about culture unless someone wants to create another thread. It's no surprise the thread was derailed by many who get all triggered by the thought of their racist comments attracting accusations of racism... And on topic, it appears that interpretation of the rules on the board are such that you can be a total racist asshole and use what ever racist slurs you wish, so long as it's not directed at another poster. Should be music to so many of your ears. You'll just have to avoid topics and subjects you don't like by attacking posters the old fashion way, without being racist. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:41pm Valkie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 12:08pm:
Apart from your last three paragraphs, that was actually quite good, well thought out even. Unfortunately, you allowed your Xenophobia out in those last three paragraphs. I am sure that some Indigenous Australians stood on the shores of Botany Bay and looked at the tall white sails of the First Fleet and said, "I don't like this, I just don't!" Were they right in their Xenophobia? I doubt it. Throughout our history, Australian society has looked with suspicion on the new arrivals as they stepped off the boat/plane and said, "I don't like this, I just don't!" The Irish, the Catholics, the Italians, the Greeks, the Jugoslavs, the Indochinese, the Africans, the Muslims have all suffered from this fear of the other. It has been pointless, in the end, the natives recognised them as being just as human as them, just as deserving of respect and of course, love and intermarried with them. Opinions like yours are pointless, Valkie. They are outmoded and are proved to be disingenuous, based upon prejudice and bigotry, not reality. Time to wake up to yourself, Valkie and actually embrace change, rather than reject it. It's going to happen whether you like it or not. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Ajax on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:46pm
My parents were migrants and this is why they fell in love with the Australian culture.
I can honestly say its what I hold dear to my heart as well. a. Freedom and democracy b. A fair go c. Friendship - Mateship d. Easy going – Live and let live e. Respect and tolerance for other people, their religion and beliefs f. Being genuine – not two faced – What you see it was you get g. A sense of humour |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:06pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:40pm:
come on sad.K... where would these forums be without good old INSULTS....and racism... you may not have lived through the pommie bashing days of yore...wait till the next Republic issue comes up...lolol.. just put it into context.. its all words...... no action..... in cyber space... now if we arranged meetings after dark for armed combat......then yes you need to be worried.. but we dont..... fingers crossed...... this is quite a new form of associating without leaving home....instead of going to the pub for a beer and a yarn...we click here and get to chat to a wider variety of people... its mainly harmless..some is personal and not pleasant but it doesnt leave bruises.. lots of people have answered your question on their view of our culture.... I think its still evolving.ask again in another 100 years...I think we have a long way to go to adulthood.. I have always thought of our history [white] as being the first 100 yrs babyhood... the 2nd hundred... primary years we are now in our teenage years.. and as everyone knows growing up is bloody hard....so many busted knees.. and naughty corners.... ::) ::) I dont think we are doing too bad.. I like to believe that anyway |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:29pm cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:06pm:
Here, Cods... 8-) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:31pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:29pm:
I thin k you need to deal with it....like I said its just words...we used to chant try it stick and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me.. its what children do...... ::) ::) just sayin if the cap fits.. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:33pm
I wouldnt dare join there brian I would cause one of your members hysterics...lolol.. I will leave you in peace.
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:37pm cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:31pm:
LOL .. the irony. In any event. Cods is quite free to say all "Abos" drink. We should support her in such endeavours. It adds the the rich tapestry that is OzPol. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:55pm mothra wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:37pm:
just like its ok for you to heap a barrage of lies on myself... lady its time you took a good look in the mirror.. show me these posts you have where I have been vindictive and saying all abos drink??.. just one or two will do it.. and I will find a heap of ones where you are saying the worst of the worst things.. even accusing fd of saying its ok to rape women.. totally disgusting..... you even bang on about people claiming they would rape you.. I have never seen anyone come close to saying that but the way you twist every ones posts to mean what you think they are saying... anything is possible... I have deal mothra you leave me alone I will leave you alone.. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:56pm
brian did you invite mothra to sign up????>..
just askin! |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:58pm cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:55pm:
LOL ... such denials. It's a rich tapestry, isn't it Cods? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:19pm mothra wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:58pm:
oh yours is thats for sure... .. would you like me to prove it too you I see no signs of what you have accused me of...??? but I am willing to put your rich tapestry up |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:28pm cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:19pm:
I'll bite. Put it up, cods. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:33pm cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:19pm:
Best i can find is this: greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 13th, 2017 at 5:58pm:
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:49pm mothra wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:33pm:
it was a QUESTION my pet dont you get that.. and seriously only one.. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D btw you and gweggy both got up me over the abo word.. not the drinky winky.. yet i have seen it used so many times since and waited and waiot and waited for your response and guess what never a word.. shows how concerned you hypocrites are... but that ok its bash cods time....even you besty this week aussie has jumped in...lol.. thats interesting aussie... wait till I tell them in sparta...whos your latest.. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by mothra on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:50pm cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 5:49pm:
No Cods. It was the combination. |
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 6:32pm
"Yer gonna need a bigger boat" than that, cods.
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 6:35pm Aussie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 6:32pm:
but but but your bestie only came up with one.. pet.. wow why arent you helping her out and doing your own research on me you like doing that... >:( >:( |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 6:46pm cods wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 4:56pm:
Nope. No idea who Mothra is. Who invited you to sign up, Cods? Anybody? ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:03pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 2:47pm:
You tell me? What is a culture without values? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:19pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:41pm:
All of Australias past immigrants were, as you say, initially given a hard time of it. But as generations grew together and became friends as children, that animosity turned into friendship, love and total acceptance. I lived my youth in Marrickville, a melting pot of cultures. I consider myself blessed that I grew with the Wogs who were and are, to this day my mates. There were many intermarriages in my friends. Chinese and Italian. Egyptian and Australian. Greek and Indian Ukranian and Australian. The list goes on. But today we have a CULT that will not allow this free interchange of people. They ban, reject and openly condemn any interaction. Threats of murder, actual murder, hell they even kill their own for mixing. How can we welcome someone who refuses to mix, refuses to allow open and mixed relationships. Australia revels in its attitude to open sexuality, accepting gays and all manner of others and promoting open relationships. Honestly Brian, will this CULT ever be as free with their sexuality or open relationships? How can children muix and learn respect for other cultures as I have through interaction and relationships, if it will not allow these relationships in the first place? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:24pm
You have a short or elective memory Mr Valkie. Not so long ago, if a Catholic married a non-Catholic in Australia, all Hell and damnation broke loose.
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:30pm Aussie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:24pm:
How many were murdered for it? I dont think any of my friends married the same religion, they were so diverse. Perhaps many years ago it was an issue, but in my 60 years, I do not remember it being an issue. Then again, I was raised in a truely multicultural community, we broke the mould. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Aussie on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:33pm Valkie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:30pm:
Dunno, but there would have been some I'm sure dating back as far as into ancient English history when the Pope and and the Archbishop were having their little tiffs. Many Catholics were ex-communicated which I guess is a metaphoric murder. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:34pm Aussie wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:24pm:
Bit like a caste system? ;) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Dnarever on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:40pm Gordon wrote on Apr 20th, 2017 at 11:03pm:
Is that the "where is Greggy topic" that attracted every rightie on the planet to jump in abusing him in his absence ? (including you) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Gordon on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:49pm Dnarever wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 8:40pm:
I believe I posted that when he'd arrived back. And Im a left of centre racist thx. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 9:36pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 6:46pm:
just askin thats all.. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 9:40pm
does personal abuse have a left and a right??
news to me...but then I never get abused so what would I know? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:31pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:32pm:
Nonsense. If all cultures were treated as equal there would be no outrage over Muslim women explaining how beating them is a blessing. There would be no laws against abhorrent cultural practices such as polygamy, FGM, child marriage, wife beating, inciting jihad, etc. 'Culturism' is sanity. You cannot possibly give free reign to expressing every aspect of every culture. That would be madness - yet you are advocating madness. Not to mention that there are few places that overflow more with Racism/Culturism/bigotry than Muslim countries. 'Culturism' and bigotry is Allah's final message as far as Muslims are concerned: submit to Mohammed, become a dhimmi (pay extra tax and have second class status) or die. Why would you or anyone give such a culture equal status to Western, enlightened, democratic freedom? It is an insult to demand that such a culture be honoured and treated as if it was not evidently inferior. Yet you insult us every day, Brian, with just such demands. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:28pm Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 10:31pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Soren, why do you bother? What have the electrons ever done to deserve your continued torturing of them? Tsk, tsk. What MPs/Ministers say and what the Government as an entity does are often two separate things, Soren. You however, seem unable to differentiate between the two. As far as the Government is concerned, it's policies are culture neutral - as long as the members of the various cultures work within the existing legal framework that has been established. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:48pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:28pm:
Nonsense, Brian. Policies are not culture neutral. There is no cultural accommodation of primitive cultural practices, many of them most prominent among Muslims and which I have listed earlier. The existing legal framework is NOT culture neutral either. So here are two point which you have repeatedly avoided, downplayed and denied without explaining why they are not valid. Address them, if you can, Brian. And now for the bollocking: You wonder why you are held in such contempt, as a squishy apologist. You simply do not provide considered, factual answers, you simply revert to, yes, squishy and spineless sentiment. You peddle feelings when you should be providing facts. That is why you are a squishy, spineless , contemptible apologist for terrorism. And all you will do is yawn and pretend that you can ignore criticism. You will, once again, prove yourself to be a cretin who would rather pretend that there is no point to answer than apply yourself to attending to the very points that have been made, once again. You yawn because you are a mental light weight and you are lost. If you were really some doctor of divinity you would grab hold of any opportunity to provide a well-argued and succinct and smart answer to any challenge that I or anyone else throw at you. Instead you are a yawning, stupid flakey airhead because you cannot provide any argument, let alone succinct and well-argued ones. You are simply too thick to rise to any challenge, so you yawn. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 12:40am Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:48pm:
I yawn because you're boring, Soren. Your endless ad hominem attacks are all old hat to me. I've read them and worse before. I doubt you'd have survived in the old days of aus.flame and aus.politics. Tsk, tsk, youngsters of today, they just aren't grateful for the luxuries people like me have provided for them. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Setanta on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:59am
All cultures are equal.
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:28am
Is this too hard to answer Brian?
Does it stick in your throat to admit that they are their own wors enemies? All of Australias past immigrants were, as you say, initially given a hard time of it. But as generations grew together and became friends as children, that animosity turned into friendship, love and total acceptance. I lived my youth in Marrickville, a melting pot of cultures. I consider myself blessed that I grew with the Wogs who were and are, to this day my mates. There were many intermarriages in my friends. Chinese and Italian. Egyptian and Australian. Greek and Indian Ukranian and Australian. The list goes on. But today we have a CULT that will not allow this free interchange of people. They ban, reject and openly condemn any interaction. Threats of murder, actual murder, hell they even kill their own for mixing. How can we welcome someone who refuses to mix, refuses to allow open and mixed relationships. Australia revels in its attitude to open sexuality, accepting gays and all manner of others and promoting open relationships. Honestly Brian, will this CULT ever be as free with their sexuality or open relationships? How can children muix and learn respect for other cultures as I have through interaction and relationships, if it will not allow these relationships in the first place? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Lord Herbert on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:50am
Brian's on his prayer mat at the moment, but he asked me to post this up ...
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:11pm Lord Herbert wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:50am:
Its amazing how voiceferious he is in defence of tge CULT. And yet as a debater he is as useful as a tit on a bull. Pathetic islamophile |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 5:35pm Valkie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:28am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Valkie, I must have missed this the first time you posted it, I apologise that you've waited so long on my answer. Tsk, tsk. The same things were said about Italians, Greeks, Yugoslavs, Albanians, Spanish, and so on. All have been proved wrong since. Muslims are willing to intermarry as long as the spouses obey the rules of their religion and that is their choice. I've known Muslims who have raised their kids Anglican. It all depends on the individual, there are no universal rules, despite what you may believe. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 5:35pm Valkie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 1:11pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Valkie, why do you bother? Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:35pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 5:35pm:
Well, not a Muslim, then, by definition. An apostate, perhaps. but who speaks for the Muslim apostates? Not you. You keep them in the shackles of Islam, you racist, bigoted old oppressor. No matter how much they turn their backs on Islam, you still brand them as Muslims, you stupid, ruthless old commissar. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:26pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 5:35pm:
You bore me :P |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:07pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:32pm:
The government may have an official policy of equality, but no one personally believes in the equality of cultures, yourself included. Everyone judges. Everyone has their own interests, biases and prejudices. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:42pm Frank wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 8:35pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. You know everything don't you, Soren? Tsk, tsk. One day, I might introduce you to Abdul. He was a fine soldier. His daughter is a fine soldier. I was glad I served with him and we called each other, "mate". I speak for no one other than myself, Soren. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:44pm Valkie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 9:26pm:
Good 'cause you bored me from your first Islamophobic post. We are therefore equally bored. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Valkie, why do you bother? All you do is troll, use ad hominem and spread Islamophobia. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by cods on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:46pm
your a bit obsessive brian.....are you studying the Koran.?.. you sound like a likely convert to me..I am sure they will love you!
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Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:47pm Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:07pm:
Maybe so but it is how we show those biases and prejudices and how we act on that knowledge that matters, CW. Some, like Valkie, Geoff, Soren, Yadda, Moses, Herbie revel in them. You? You're just like the other Islamophobes, terrified of the "other". |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:49pm cods wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:46pm:
Nope, Cods. I've studied it and realised it's only slightly more sensible than the Book of Mormon. How about you? Have you ever studied the Q'ran? Or do you rely on Pauline Hanson and the other professional Islamophobes to do your thinking for you? ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Culture Warrior on Apr 24th, 2017 at 2:20am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:47pm:
Okay, so now you agree that cultures can be unequal. Quote:
Lefty slogans don't work on me. Additionally, I've not mentioned Islam. Read what I write. Do not infer. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:25pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:42pm:
Islam is not your mate Abdul. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:33pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 23rd, 2017 at 11:47pm:
Multiculturalism is a big, fat lie calculated to shut people up. Cultural background of citizens is legitimate object of scrutiny STEPHEN CHAVURA The Australian12:00AM April 24, 2017 Cynics ask what are Australian values. Well, a good place to start is by asking what Australian institutions make us such an attractive destination for thousands of immigrants, and then think about what kinds of values Australians must have to keep them healthy. What kinds of values must citizens have for parliamentary democracy, liberal democratic rights, a welfare program, equal access to education, civil peace and a healthy economy to flourish? It is reassuring to see citizenship tests back on the political agenda. Not because of what such tests are capable of doing on their own — basically nothing — but for what they signify. They are an admission that in the present national and global political climate the discourse of multiculturalism is at best irrelevant, and at worst counter-productive. True, some politicians and many academics and professional activists still cling to the multicultural discourse but they look increasingly like Menzian Anglophiles did in the 1960s — hopelessly out of touch with a changing world that is rapidly leaving them behind. Multiculturalism has always been a notoriously vague and amorphous ideal. Even its greatest theorists differ on exactly what it is and how it should influence policy. Is multiculturalism simply the absence of pressure placed on immigrant communities to assimilate? Is it the positive celebration and encouragement of cultural distinctiveness? Is it anti-multicultural to demand that immigrants use English in speech and advertising? Does multiculturalism demand some limited acceptance of sharia law? As Mark Lopez showed in his classic study The Origins of Multiculturalism in Australian Politics 1945-1975, what began as an attempt to address the very practical problem of the economic and educational integration of European migrants in the 1970s soon became an ideological monstrosity far removed from the practical day-to-day needs of migrant communities. Multiculturalism went from trying to solve important issues such as employment and understanding the needs of migrant children at school, to ridiculous questions such as whether it is “intolerant” to force Muslim boys to interact with female teachers whom they consider their inferiors, and whether the curriculum makes all cultures feel included. Such is the fate of many practical causes once intellectuals get their hands on them. So what is multiculturalism? Or better, what has it become over the past 40 years? Simple. Multiculturalism is little more than a rhetorical gag used to silence critics of immigration policy and its impact on Australian society. Multicultural discourse is about silencing any who would dare criticise the way immigration and integration have been conducted since mass immigration shifted from Europe to Asia and the Middle East in the mid to late 1970s. Multiculturalism is less about reason and reasonableness than it is about the control of public debate regarding immigration and national identity. It does this by confusion and obfuscation, especially by confusing culture with race. Once culture and race are seen as the same thing then anyone advocating assimilationist policies is deemed racist, likewise with advocating cultural-sensitive immigration policy. Even criticism of Islam and mass Muslim immigration is now seen as racist. The multicultural discourse has succeeded in demonising anyone as a racist who dares to raise any of these questions. Indeed, so successful has it been that people feel guilty just thinking such thoughts, privately telling friends in hushed tones that: “I’m not a racist but shouldn’t we be careful about who we let into our country?” A nation is defined by its institutions and citizens, both of which shape the other in a perpetual dialogue that takes place in an ever-changing world. The quality of the institutions affects the quality of the citizens, and vice versa. Furthermore, the ideals and social ethos that animate the laws must be internalised by the people. For citizens to enjoy their rights to equality and freedom their fellow citizens must have the spirit of those laws in their hearts. This is why liberal democracy cannot exist in countries whose citizens are animated by ethnic hatreds, extreme intolerance and corruption. Parliaments will be seen merely as another means to carry on ethnic conflict and oppression. Think of the failure of democracy in most of the Middle East and Africa. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:34pm
If liberal democratic institutions and the rights they guarantee can only be enjoyed by citizens whose hearts are animated by the spirit of those institutions, then the quality of the hearts and minds of individuals who wish to immigrate is of the highest significance. Citizenship tests are at best tokenistic gestures unless they are done with highly skilled personnel who are trained to ask the right questions and recognise the wrong answers. The cultural background of citizens is a perfectly legitimate object of scrutiny in our immigration policy.
If we want to distil our values as a nation then let’s get back to an appreciation of the institutions that have made us such a desirable destination for so many millions. More than that, let’s reclaim from the tyranny of multicultural discourse the right to demand that potential new citizens also appreciate them and the values that animate them. Stephen Chavura lectures in politics and history at Macquarie University and Campion College. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/cultural-background-of-citizens-is-legitimate-object-of-scrutiny/news-story/32d4d6c1fdbfbe47ae911ac4134ec8fa |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:52pm Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:25pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. English is your second language, isn't it, Soren? Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Dnarever on Apr 24th, 2017 at 7:58pm Quote:
At the moment about 25% of the first 20 topics are racially based and 20% of the 50 most recent topics. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 24th, 2017 at 8:08pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
You really are an insulting, narcissistic pig arent you. It matters not what anyone says, if it does not fit into your islamophilla approach to life, you insult them. You have a great deal in common with pecca and unforgiven, are you sure you are not just another manifestation of the crippled mind? You refuse to accept the evils of this CULT Wishing only to convert everyone to your twisted ideology that the CULT is a peaceful organisation. But the truth is that it is not. Where it has taken control it is evil, barbaric and draconian in every respect. Its own people live in constant fear, women are treated as possessions, children are raped and married off to men many times their age. The countries the run to from these horrors are then subjected to insult, terrorism and an increased crime rate. This is islam. No matter how many times you protest that this is wrong, it is still the truth. I have asked you many times to explain the positives this CULT has brought to our country. All I get is insults, because you and I both know there are none. The CULT takes over countries by force, by breeding out the population, by stealth and by using our own willingness to be accepting, while they isolate themselves, insult, plot and convert the dreggs of society, because only the dreggs will join this evil CULT It is antithetical to civilization. And it is a desease, just like cancer, it will kill its host |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2017 at 8:38pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Don't be ALWAYS the po-faced old princess, Brian. Islam IS NOT about your mate Abdul. Abdul is one guy. He represents nobody just as you do not represent anyone. Islam is a toxic ideology, whatever you or your mate Abdul believe. In any language. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2017 at 9:23pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 3:40pm:
What does that actually mean, Vicky 'yeah-but-no-but' Pollard? I am amazed. You don't seem to realise what an empty-headed old thing you really are. You actually think you are balanced when in fact you are empty. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2017 at 9:24pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 2:47pm:
What's the difference, Vicky, old thing? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2017 at 9:30pm SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 22nd, 2017 at 11:07am:
I, for one, think you are prancing ponce. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2017 at 9:32pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Australian is my second language, actually. English is my first. You are the worst kind of racist sh!t, Bwian. You are like Mothra - racist, sexist, snobby old sh!ts. With NOTHING to be be snobby about. You are all proles, lower class dregs. With cheap, online 'Doctor of Divinity' degrees that you are stupid enough to actually boast about!!!! |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2017 at 9:50pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
You are trying to be a Multiculturalist, po-faced old hag??? |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:09am Valkie wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 8:08pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor Valkie, just 'cause I don't accept your views on Islam doesn't mean I hate you. It just means I disagree with you. Islam is only what it's believers make it, just as the believers of every other religion. Christianity used to be, until about 60 years quite a fierce, terrible religion. It sanctioned slavery, it sanctioned imperialism, it sanctioned bigotry amongst its various denominations. It preached hatred, it preached misunderstandings about it's believers bodies. Some followers of Islam do that today. Not all the followers of Christianity or Islam believe what they are preached. I tend to believe that there is good in people. Even Muslim people. I don't believe in preaching hatred or bigotry which is exactly what you're doing. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:12am Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 8:38pm:
I never claimed that Abdul represented anybody other than himself, Soren. Just as I represent no one other than myself and you only represent yourself. We are all individuals. Abdul has little time for Islamism or Islamists, just as I do. You however have decided that because he is a Muslim, he can't be an individual, he's part of a Borg-like religion. He isn't. He is an individual who believes in his religion his own way. Time you stopped thinking in your Borg-like manner, Soren. It's foolish and it's pointless. ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:15am Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 9:32pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor Soren. English is your first language? Really? Yet you keep making such obvious mistakes in its parsing. Oh, well, I'll just let you go back to your ad hominem debate as that appears to be all you're doing at the moment. Tsk, tsk. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Brian Ross on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:18am Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2017 at 9:50pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. More adhominem insults, Soren? ::) |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 25th, 2017 at 2:38pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 12:09am:
It simply will not do to conflate Christianity and Islam or Islam and any other belief system such as modern Western secularism. It simply doesn't wash. The facts before us show that any society where Islam has a say is a retrograde, repressive, backward society. There are no strongly Muslim countries that any sane person wants to set as an example. Islam's influence on the West has been wholly negative since mass Muslim immigration started. Muslims have not brought any Islamic improvement to the West. Islam has been the enemy of the West from its inception and nothing has changed to this day. And it never will be enlightened and secular and life-affirming because it's not in it. It is the enemy of all the things that have made the West successful and open and pleasant. |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Valkie on Apr 25th, 2017 at 3:40pm Frank wrote on Apr 25th, 2017 at 2:38pm:
X2 |
Title: Re: Is racism encouraged? Post by Frank on Apr 25th, 2017 at 7:35pm
Pissing on Yyyaaassssssminn - is that racist or culturalist, both, neither?
Who IS Yyyaaassssssminn?? Why is a 26 years old Sudanese Muslim given a platform for anything? It is the teeth? The glasses? The headscarf? The arse? The tendentiousness? All of the above? |
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