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Title: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 24th, 2017 at 9:12pm |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Gordon on Mar 24th, 2017 at 9:14pm Aussie wrote on Mar 24th, 2017 at 9:12pm:
Not as bad as the taxi I rode in today. It smelt like the entire putrid Ganges had been distilled down to 1 litre and poured in the car. YUCK |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Gordon on Mar 24th, 2017 at 9:18pm
Phew
Taxi Fleet Admits That Taxis Stink Getting from A to B shouldn't prompt an olfactory meltdow http://m.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/11/24/taxi-fleet-admits-that-taxis-stink/ |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 24th, 2017 at 10:03pm
It could be the passengers causing the stink.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Redmond Neck on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:06am Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 24th, 2017 at 10:03pm:
Yep! I heard the cabby had to have his cab sanitised after Gordon got out! Yuk! ;D ;D |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by John Smith on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:22am
i don't know why gordy just doesn't use uber ...
it seems like almost every day he cries about the taxi he got in that day having an odour. Don't use the fkken things. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Redmond Neck on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:03am
Its called baiting Aussie !
Yuk! Probably never uses cabs at all. ;) |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Gordon on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:31pm Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:03am:
Yes, but Aussie uses this place to launch his personal self interest war against Uber. There would be people trying to feed their families driving from Uber so someone needs to add an opposing view. Jayzus! |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Redmond Neck on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:47pm Gordon wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:31pm:
Aussie does that? Who'd a thunk! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Gordon on Mar 25th, 2017 at 1:24pm Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
If taxi companies/owners put a 1/4 of the effort into improving their service that they spend pissing and moaning about Uber, they'd have squashed Uber by now. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 25th, 2017 at 4:10pm
And yet another confirming that Uber be ferked.
Link. Look at the losses! Ya kenna keep tossing money into a hole, Uber. ;D ;D |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Leftwinger on Mar 25th, 2017 at 7:10pm Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:06am:
Moot smell like old bait again ? Try some femme fresh g |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:22pm
And while the taxi industry players are distracted by all the uproar over Uber, more competitors are moving into the market.
Maybe if plate owners and other rent-seeking incumbents spent less time pouring over Uber news stories and more time trying to figure out how to make their service cheaper and more appealing to customers, they'd have a future. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:26pm Stig wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:22pm:
When you demonstrate that you know the slightest thing about the Taxi Industry in Qld....I'll let you know. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:35pm Aussie wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:26pm:
I don't care what you think I know. Keeping on spinning - I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the carnage. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:38pm Stig wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:22pm:
They can't be bothered. Why? Because they already know that they're well and truly stuffed. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:43pm Stig wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:35pm:
I don't think ~ I know you know SFA. It is obvious. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:50pm Aussie wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:43pm:
Like how you knew San Fran taxi plate prices were surging in value ? Yeah. Sure. Since you know everything about everything and are so sure of how awesome your investment in taxi plates was - why are you even bothered about Uber? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Gordon on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:51pm Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:38pm:
Jayzus |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:57pm Stig wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:50pm:
If you can show me where I said San Fransico prices were surging, I'll bare my arse. I did say they were returning to pre Uber prices. I am bothered because Government has allowed an outlaw into town and have been rendered gun shy by nervous Nellie politicians. We are fighting back, and we will see the Ubers off. They cannot make money on that model, as is obvious. It is also obvious you ignore that fact of financial unviability. They are now left with only two choices. Increase their prices or lower driver take. Either way....they are on a hiding. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:08pm Aussie wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
Either way - it was still wrong. Aussie wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 8:57pm:
No - I'm ignoring your obsessive focus on one company. Uber could go under tomorrow and it won't stop the tide from coming in. The conclusion will still be the same. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by issuevoter on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:41pm
Oh yeah, I am going to allow my wife to get into a vehicle with some uncertified, untraceable, person, because an online program said they, and their car, were OK. Great idea, then we'll be able to say we totally like on the cutting edge of technology, instead of using a commercial cab company which is so like 20th century.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Setanta on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:01am issuevoter wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:41pm:
Queue the "take my wife" joke. Police pursuit... Finally pull over.. Didn't you hear the siren and see the lights? Yes I did but my wife ran off with a copper and I thought you were trying to give her back! |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Gordon on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:54am issuevoter wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:41pm:
Both Uber and Taxi drivers must have a criminal background check. When you book with Uber, before you ride you can see the drivers rating. Can you see that with a taxi driver? As for untraceable, if you've booked through the app, it's traceable. Obviously if an Uber driver intends you serious harm, a big red light won't flash in a police station who can dispatch the flying squad to track you in real time with a big red circle moving around a map, like in the moofies, but that is no different from a taxi. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:44am Stig wrote on Mar 25th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
Mundane. I use the word Uber as representative all these rideshare wankers. None of them are making money, and all are throwing capital in to shore themselves up. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 26th, 2017 at 10:18am
I tells ya...Uber be ferked.
If they cannot play by their Rules, take Uber bat and ball and go home. Great! The ride share business model is an abject failure as it is now....it will become much worse if they have to pay their drivers the way they treat them....as employees. Link. ;D |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by AiA on Mar 27th, 2017 at 3:24am Gordon wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 8:54am:
Aussie hires criminals of all sorts to drive his taxis. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Lisa Jones on Mar 27th, 2017 at 4:09am AiA wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 3:24am:
Aussie hires nothing. He is unemployed. Fact! |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by AiA on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:50am Lisa Jones wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 4:09am:
You are wrong Lisa. He does work and he does hire criminals as taxi drivers. I read this in a place where only facts are posted. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Fireball on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:16am Aussie wrote on Mar 24th, 2017 at 9:12pm:
You wish! |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:55am Fuzzball wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 8:16am:
Read the Articles Furball. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 27th, 2017 at 3:36pm
.......and now their driverless cars get involved in prangs. Grounded.
Uber be ferked I tells ya! Link. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:13pm
ahahaha there was something about the crash of an Über driverless car in my emails this afternoon, knew Aussie would be commenting on it ;D
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Neferti on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:33pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGNWzZp7_0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md0zleb0AtA |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Gordon on Mar 27th, 2017 at 6:37pm Jovial Monk wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 5:13pm:
Looks like Aussie wants to be a futurist and tell us about emerging tech trends. Will he be giving a talk at the festival of retarded idea? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on Mar 27th, 2017 at 7:44pm
Of course - there's no mention of the actual reason for the crash
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In any case the same thing happened after a Tesla on autopilot was involved in a fatal crash in the US - all the dinosaurs and luddites got on the internet to crow about it and predict that driverless was a dead end. ...until the DoT in the US analysed the data from Telsa's entire fleet, and concluded that autopilot actually made cars 40% safer bgr.com/2017/01/19/tesla-autopilot-crash-safety-statistics-report-nhtsa/ And that's not even full autonomous driving. If you think the same governments that crow over a 5% reduction in road deaths will sit by and let an opportunity like that pass them by - you're delusional. Not a great time to be an incumbent in the taxi industry - that's for sure |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Mar 28th, 2017 at 10:01am
Good ol' Travis takes the boys and girls to a sleaze joint in South Korea.
Link. I tells ya....Uber be ferked some more! |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 28th, 2017 at 10:06am Gordon wrote on Mar 27th, 2017 at 6:37pm:
Driverless cars are the future, for sure. Faster, smoother travel. But need to separate cars from pedestrians. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by red baron on Mar 28th, 2017 at 5:20pm
Totally agree Aussie...Uber is a freaking joke. Hannibal Lecter could be picking you up. Just remember that next time you want to be lousy and save ten bucks
Any bastard can be a Uber driver and the runs are already on the board with sexual assaults etc. Stand by for Murders Is ten bucks worth your life? Uber is for dickheads |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 6th, 2017 at 4:41pm
They be ferked and desperate. Got this email from Uber today. (Yes.....they think I am one of their supporters.)
Hi Aussie, We want to help you get ready to ride so you can join the millions of Australians who are already enjoying reliable and affordable rides. This 2 minute video explains everything you need to know about how Uber works. At Uber, our technology enables us to focus on safety before, during, and after every trip. Visit this website to find out more about the Uber app, our rigorous driver background checks, insurance policy, and transparent two-way rating system for drivers and riders. Ready to experience Uber for yourself? Enjoy 40% off your next three trips* with the promo code UBERAU40. Simply enter the promo code in the app under 'Settings > Payment > Add Promo/Gift Code'. If you already have the app installed then click here from your phone/mobile to automatically add the promo code now. Your next steps: Download the Uber app from the App Store or Play Store Provide details for your preferred payment method in the Uber app under 'Payment' Update your mobile number in the Uber app under 'Settings' Enjoy your discounted rides on us! Cheers, Josh Uber Operations Team *Terms and conditions: First time Uber users only. For your next 3 rides you'll get 40% off the first $25 of your fare. Expires 23:59:59 (local time) on June 1st, 2017. Discount will apply automatically at the end of each of your 3 trips and can be seen on your receipt. Only valid in cities in Australia where Uber is available. Not valid on UberEATS or uberTAXI. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by cods on Apr 6th, 2017 at 5:13pm
its only an advert whats to get excited about...
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Gordon on Apr 6th, 2017 at 5:14pm cods wrote on Apr 6th, 2017 at 5:13pm:
He shoots a big load about anything Uber. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 6th, 2017 at 5:18pm cods wrote on Apr 6th, 2017 at 5:13pm:
Do you see Cabbies offering crap deals like that, cods. Their pricing is already screwing their drivers so one of two things is happening: 1. Uber is screwing the drivers harder, or and far more likely.... 2. Uber is spending capital (like it does to keep going all over the Planet.....way more than $B1.5 to date) subsidising the drivers. Uber be ferked, I tells ya. ;D |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by cods on Apr 6th, 2017 at 5:20pm Gordon wrote on Apr 6th, 2017 at 5:14pm:
::) ::).. and the plods dont forget. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 11th, 2017 at 5:40pm
And here is confirmation of what I have been saying for quite a while. Uber be ferked and it can only make money if it does not have those pesky driver 'partners' it has sucked in so far.
Link. Quote:
It is just a question of time and how much damage it does before it totally collapses. Uber be ferked, I tells ya! |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 15th, 2017 at 3:47pm |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by cods on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:01pm
well as we dont have shares in it... why would we be interested?
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Agnes on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:03pm
Am wondering are taxi drivers required to have first aid training?
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:06pm Agnes wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
Not required to but Cabbies here have volunteered to get said training. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:10pm cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:01pm:
Can't you see that? It is obvious! If Uber manages to destroy the Taxi Industry, and then it folds as is inevitable, what will then be left of Cabs as part of the public transport network? (Let's ignore for the moment the very serious threat which Uber is to public safety.) |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by cods on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:12pm Aussie wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:10pm:
it would take a loooooooooong time to destroy the taxi industry,...its no different than a shop having to deal with websites taking their business.... stuff happens..... as for safety arent these drivers on the road anyway? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:30pm cods wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:12pm:
I'm not going to repeat what I have posted many times about there being no comparison between the corner shops and the heavily regulated Government created and controlled Tax Industry. I will say that it certainly will not take a long time to destroy us if a level playing field is not put in place and enforced against Uber. I'm not sure what your comment about safety/drivers is about. You'll have to clarify that. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by cods on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:43pm Aussie wrote on Apr 15th, 2017 at 4:30pm:
ok.. you brought up safety... not me. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Gordon on Apr 15th, 2017 at 5:03pm
Hey mods, shouldn't this thread be moved into relationships section?
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 27th, 2017 at 9:48pm
Well, who'd a thunk it?
Link. For those like me who needs stuff like that explained: 1. You book an Uber. You are told $10.00. You pay $10.00. That is based on the 'long way.' 2. Uber gets its share of $10.00. 3. But.....the driver is paid for the 'short way.' Quote:
Easy. Can't happen in a Cab. You can see the Meter. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 28th, 2017 at 7:34pm
What a mongrel of a Corporation Uber is.
Link. This alleged multi billion dollar shithole can't find the way to see proper compensation paid when an employee suicides as a result of the workplace environment. Great mob you support, Vic. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 29th, 2017 at 5:35pm
And here you go......this demonstrates the dangers!
Link. He picks up the wrong person, and what if that driver did not have the decency to let it wash off! Crazy! Stupid stupid Uber users. Just you wait "'enry 'iggins" when someone is made a quadriplegic and the Uber has zero insurance. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by AiA on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:48am
Like has been said before, Uber could disappear tomorrow and the industry would do just fine. Well, more evidence of that:
On-demand ride service Gett confirms acquisition of Juno for $200M https://techcrunch.com/2017/04/26/on-demand-ride-service-gett-confirms-acquisition-of-juno-for-200m/ |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Vic on Apr 30th, 2017 at 8:06am AiA wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 7:48am:
Interesting article. I also heard about this recently. Looks like it may start up in Queensland soon. https://www.skyuber.com/ |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:11am
What neither of you have addressed is the plain fact that none of the Ubers has made an operating profit. Uber itself has lost billions.
Further, as things stand, an Uber driver is making about $4.00 per hour and is trashing his car at the same time. When they are required to meet the same regulations ( and costs) as Cab that will drop to a negative and will be the end of them. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Vic on Apr 30th, 2017 at 12:09pm Aussie wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 9:11am:
I don't care about the operating profit. What I do now is that I have used Uber around 10 times in Cairns over the past three weeks and have been extremely satisfied with the service, the cost and the presentation of the vehicle and the drivers. Uber drivers in Cairns have increased from around 9 when the service started to over 30 when I left on Friday. All I have spoken too are more than happy with the money they have received from the Company. I looked through your previous postings on this Aussie and declined to post because all I read was "alleged" in the "evidence" posted. So lets look at Uber against Taxis. I need to go to the Airport from my Hotel in Cairns. I use a very friendly Uber App on my phone that shows me the route to the airport that will be taken, the price range cost (in this case between 7 and 10 dollars), the driver's name, type of car and his rego. It also shows me a rating that has been voluntarily given by previous passengers about the service he has given. His car must be less than 10 years old and be capable of carrying 4 people plus luggage. I know the Uber Driver has had to have his car certified safe to drive (paid for by Uber) and police checks have been carried out against the driver. I pay no other charges Taxis I call a Taxi and on arrival am charged an immediate pick up charge of around $4.50 and $2 for the booking I made by phone. I am then taken on a metered route that may or may not be the quickest or most efficient route for that time. I am charged a fee for my bags, any tolls and any airport charges. For this exercise the total cost is over $30. I know that the vehicle is also safe, the driver probably has passed police checks etc. I have no idea of what other people think of this driver in terms of his service. You and I will be diametrically opposed on Uber Aussie and that is understandable. You provide the an alternative taxi service service to Uber, I use both and I will support Uber more and more as it expands. The insurance issues and people suffering paraplegic instances and being basically ignored is the usual scare mongering that as consumers we are becoming used to from an industry that has become bloated, overpriced and now faces competition. Uber may well fail here Aussie - I don't think so after talking to many of their drivers - but something will replace it. Just as Ansett died and a few successors tried and failed to fill the gap, a provider will come along (like Virgin in that example) and provide an alternative. As for rideshare insurance: http://www.insuremyrideshare.com.au/ "Certificate of Currency Rideshare operators require drivers to obtain the correct insurance and have an insurance certificate. All our policies come delivered with your certificate to show you've got the right cover." On the subject of cars: I can go out and buy a brand new Honda Jazz for $17000 - this car mets Uber's requirements. If I buy it now, I can claim the various taxes back under Hockey's $20000 "tradie" rebate. All my running, service, insurance, fuel, loan costs, phone and software and other costs are tax deductible, even the mints and water each Uber driver I have ridden with carry in their cars. I keep most of the dollars I make each trip. A taxi Driver can't do most of that - but you as an owner can. Can you see why many taxi drivers are going to Uber Aussie? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 30th, 2017 at 5:51pm Vic wrote on Apr 30th, 2017 at 12:09pm:
Of course. That is exactly how Guber operates! Those 9 drivers were on incentives of hundreds of dollars to get other drivers and on the pyramid builds, until there are no more because they have run out of gullible mates feeding off the same circle of mates, and they then have to exist with zero incentive and just earn what they can driving. Quote:
Nothing alleged about 99.9% of what I have posted. Quote:
Okay. Quote:
Cairns Cabs have an app which does exactly the same thing. Quote:
Rubbish. That is controlled at Guber HQ and they are never going to poo-poo their drivers, unless they have a vast surplus. I never took you to be so gullible. Quote:
Whereas Cabs must be less than SIX years old, and equally capable and more. Quote:
This too is rubbish. No Guber in Qld has ever been anywhere near a Government mechanical test, but that is shortly going to change. Quote:
I am unclear on this. That was never the case until perhaps recently in Qld. Quote:
I accept that because Guber is absorbing those and that is part of why it is throwing billions (that is not alleged) into a black hole. Quote:
Correct. Someone has to pay the wage of the young Lady who took your call to ask for a Cab. With Guber, there is no such employed young Lady. There is a robot. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Apr 30th, 2017 at 6:08pm Quote:
I'm sure you have a smart phone so you can live check the route. Quote:
You are not charged a fee for luggage at all. If you were, report it to Qld Transport. Quote:
Nothing 'probable' about it. 100% guaranteed. Those Police checks are the cause of hold-ups in getting new Cab drivers authorised. Quote:
You do. If he had been the subject of relevant complaints from passengers, he would have been booted by the Cairns Cab Mob. [quote]You and I will be diametrically opposed on Uber Aussie and that is understandable. You provide the an alternative taxi service service to Uber, I use both and I will support Uber more and more as it expands. The insurance issues and people suffering paraplegic instances and being basically ignored is the usual scare mongering that as consumers we are becoming used to from an industry that has become bloated, overpriced and now faces competition.[/quote] Nothing bloated about it. We meet Government imposed regulations which come at a cost and that includes paying for proper commercial use insurance which Guber does not. When that chit hit the fan, you attitude will change big time. Quote:
So, how come they are all operating using the same 'private use' insurance you pay......when it costs me TEN times that to have the correct insurance for COMMERCIAL use. Quote:
Cute. I get exactly the same entitlements. Quote:
There you have it. Proof absolute you just do not know. The Cab driver gets 50% of the gross take and that is all his. The other 50% goes to the owner who has to pay ALL the bills.....All of them without exception, including fuel and driver income insurance. The word count knocked off your coment about Cabbies becoming Gubers. What you do not know is how many come back when the pyramid sell scheme fails and they have woken up to how they are losing money big time. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 1st, 2017 at 1:05pm |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 1st, 2017 at 1:40pm
Yes Vic, those Gubers are very happy little vegemites, aren't they. Oops, maybe not!
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.....and read the entire list. ::) |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Vic on May 1st, 2017 at 6:25pm Aussie wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 1:40pm:
I have no problem with any of that Aussie. If the Uber drivers are lobbying for an increase then they have the right to do so - just like any other employee of a company. As a Company, Uber would be silly not to listen to their Employees and take their concerns on board. Nobody in their right mind works to lose money and those that feel the cons outweigh the pros will move on, just as in any business I am a USER of the service Aussie so, as long as it delivers my perception of value for money and effective service delivery then I will use it. The people who drove the cars I travelled in were mostly satisfied with the Job. My sample size was only around 10 drivers so I can only pass on their opinions Also, if the Uber Price and the Taxi price eventually become the same then it all boils down to a question of time to pick me up. Did you know that Uber are also about to move into the private plane passenger business? A pilot flying from A to B can put his information on Uber and potential passengers can put their travel requirements on there as well. Challenging, but doable. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 1st, 2017 at 6:37pm Vic wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 6:25pm:
You are not listening are you. The Gubers (and Guber will fight to the death to seek a declaration their drivers are not their employees as you call them) have woken up to the fact they are not making a cent.....in fact...they are losing dollars and you exploit them. Carry on in your ignorance Vic. No skin off my nose. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Vic on May 1st, 2017 at 6:55pm Aussie wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 6:37pm:
Aussie, I am a USER of the service. I don't give a stuff about the machinations of Uber and Taxis. If an Uber driver feels his expectations are not being met then fine - he leaves. If the service is available and is cheaper than Taxis, I will use it. Why do you struggle with this? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 1st, 2017 at 7:21pm
I don't struggle with it at all Vic. You are exploiting slave labour, and still, you defend it.
As I said....carry on. Don't listen to the Gubers who have realised what they have done. You'll be okay Vic, and that's all which matters. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Vic on May 2nd, 2017 at 8:46am Aussie wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 7:21pm:
Oh the feigned outrage and wringing of hands! Your diatribe and posturing would be a lot more genuine if it weren't for the fact that you have an investment in the taxi industry via taxi plates! You stand to lose a lot of money as your investment falls in value, but you want people to believe you have a "genuine" interest in Uber drivers and their welfare? Uber has well and truely settled down in many countries around the world Aussie, just as it will here. Why not sell the plates whilst you can still make a profit and drive for them yourself? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Rhino on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:30am Aussie wrote on May 1st, 2017 at 6:37pm:
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Rhino on May 2nd, 2017 at 9:32am Vic wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 8:46am:
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:18pm Vic wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 8:46am:
Own it Vic. You are exploiting victims, and could not care less, other than you save a few bucks from using that 'slave' labour. Does not matter what I believe. I am not exploiting anyone. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Rhino on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:20pm Aussie wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:18pm:
Your whole business model was based on exploiting drivers. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:22pm
Incorrect. They get 50% and pay zero of the expenses....not a zack.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Vic on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:35pm Aussie wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:18pm:
My word I will own it Aussie. Your woeful handwringing about an alternative service that is driving down the value of your investment is pitiful to watch. You couldn't give a hoot about Uber driver's and their welfare - so don't pretend you do. More power to them! |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 2nd, 2017 at 1:31pm Vic wrote on May 2nd, 2017 at 12:35pm:
You are quite right. I don't give a stuff about their welfare, and I am not pretending to. Far from it. But......unlike you, I don't use them. It is you exploiting them, taking advantage of some fools who are unaware until it's too late that they are 'slave' labour. 'Blood' diamond. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 7th, 2017 at 2:30pm
The USA Feds are after Uber.
Link. See Section 543 (1) of the Qld. Criminal Code. There is pressure mounting here for Government to act on it. Thou shall not conspire to thwart Government enforcement authorities and Uber certainly did that in here. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 7th, 2017 at 3:10pm
I told you!
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 25th, 2017 at 3:33pm |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by cods on May 25th, 2017 at 3:36pm
shouldnt this be in relationships... >:(
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Neferti on May 25th, 2017 at 3:44pm cods wrote on May 25th, 2017 at 3:36pm:
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 25th, 2017 at 3:44pm
All we need now is Agnes.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 30th, 2017 at 1:24pm
I love it when I can say, "Told you so."
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by AiA on May 30th, 2017 at 2:02pm
Haven't we been through all this before? Even if Uber as we know it disappears today, the taxi industry is doomed by the technology that Uber and others have created ...
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 30th, 2017 at 2:07pm AiA wrote on May 30th, 2017 at 2:02pm:
We have it, and we have had that technology (the app) in Cabs in Qld for years. There is nothing new about the app of Uber. It is very old stuff. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on May 31st, 2017 at 12:06pm Aussie wrote on May 30th, 2017 at 2:07pm:
Must be different to NSW then, where taxi companies were dragged kicking and screaming into the app age, because it took away from the rent-seeking profits of the radio networks. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 1:01pm Stig wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 12:06pm:
As I have been screaming for years, Queensland's Taxi Industry is nothing like that in any other Australian State. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 31st, 2017 at 1:22pm
If the Taxi Industry in QLD were able to offer the ease of use and payment that Uber does, with the bonus of competitive rates, I'll stop using Uber.
I had to take a Taxi to a repair centre to pick up my Ute after an insurance claim, it cost $70+ door to door. The 3rd party insurance provider covered it, but I had to go and inspect the work before pickup the week before and the Uber cost me $25. It's really hard to willingly pay near $50 extra for the same service when the taxi was a 13 year old model, smelly with a falling apart interiour whereas the Uber was a clean, no odor filled 2 year old Honda Accord. One of my neighbours is a part time Uber driver because the market is so flooded on the Gold Coast as I expect it is everywhere else. She leaves the App running while at home and if she's quick enough to take a fare she then heads out. She was a early adopter and it in the beginning was enough to supplement her part time income. Now it's nothing more than a tiny sliver of the pie. Uber has pros and cons, but the solution for the Taxi industry is to improve themselves and their image rather than attacking Uber. I also have a friend who is sitting on his inherited taxi plates and they're worth bugger all now. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on May 31st, 2017 at 1:27pm SadKangaroo wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 1:22pm:
If you look through all these threads, not to mention almost every proposal from the taxi industry on this subject, that's one thing you never see - proposals to improve and make the customer experience better. It's always "Uber did this", "I deserve to be compensated", "They can't be allowed to do that". It's the textbook definition of a rent-seeking monopoly being disrupted and dying out |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 2:11pm SadKangaroo wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 1:22pm:
Now now! That's a fib. A very bad one at that. No Taxi in Qld can be more than 6 years old, that is, until very recently when the Government (in its stupidity) dropped the age limit. That was so recently that it simply would have been impossible for that Cab if yours to have been 13 years old. Further, while the Govt has dropped that limit, Booking and Despatch Companies (like Yellow and Black & White) have insisted that all vehicles under their envelope must be less than six years old. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 2:18pm
Further to that......yeas, during very quiet periods, Uber is cheaper than Cabs, but the instant it gets busy, Uber price surges way beyond Cab fares which are constant no matter the demand.
For example, last Saturday there was a local music festival with 15,000 attendees....mainly teenagers. For a journey which would cost about $50.00 in a Cab, Uber had surged to $250.00......as a result, kids were ripped off by a mongrel mob who takes its profits off shore to Holland and avoids paying its share in taxes. Ask your neighbour whether she has commercial or private insurance and CTP. She'll have private, only, I'll bet. Tell her to pray that she never has a prang especially one involving personal injury in which she was at fault. Tell her she is in for a future of bankruptcy and financial ruin. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 31st, 2017 at 2:30pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 2:11pm:
Yeah I thought that was the case, but I owned a 2004 Toyota Hiace Commuter (well, I didn't have the commuter model) and that's what he was driving, it was unmistakable. We even had a nice conversation on the way there, firstly for him thanking me for getting him out of my area (lots of old people using the taxi's to get to and from the shops, $10 fares max etc) and back close to the "CBD" (if you can consider the Gold Coast as having a CBD), and then he was telling me that it wasn't his van, he's just the driver and he didn't care about thrashing it and he thought it was an old piece of poo. He was explaining what "Taxi Green" was as he was a whisker from running a red light, he accelerated hard and just made it through on the Yellow. As an FYI, there are 3 colours on the traffic lights, Green, Yellow and Taxi Green (aka Red) apparently. I appreciate that he'd been dealing with tiny fare snowies all day so he let his tongue rip when telling me about how crappy the van was and since we're all aussies I have no problem with a taxi driver swearing etc during conversation and I could tell he'd been holding it in all morning. He was very eager to stress that even though he was a maxi, because I only booked for one I would only get charged the standard rate, so don't let that confuse the $70 vs $25 difference either. I honestly thought that there were age restrictions on the cars. He was a Yellow Cab (the orange and black ones) and I thought maybe as a way to reduce regulation to help the taxi industry compete with Uber that they'd removed some of those provisions. Clearly mine was an out of the ordinary experience then. It's just shame that's been the last taxi I've taken for a while. The next closest after Uber is driving to the Training Station to head up and down to Brissy, or door to door busses to the airport but even that might stop now that I've got a collection of Uber Drivers personal cards for when I need an airport run... |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 31st, 2017 at 2:35pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 2:18pm:
She had commercial to begin with when Uber started and it was part of her main source of income but we were just talking about this not so long ago, she only on Private now and questioning whether she'll even bother continuing. People expect free water and lollies and things now and it all adds up in taking what little she gets to keep in her pocket and even less after she pays her own taxed. But I don't use Uber enough (it's the Gold Coast, you really need a car) as I drive most of the time, I had no idea their rates would increase like that if demand is huge. That's bullshit. But, free market? Certain people should love it! I've had very few positive experiences in the last 15 years with taxi's on the Gold Coast and in Brisbane. I've had far less Uber rides in that same time but they've all been far more positive. I really don't know where I sit on the "debate". Clearly there is lots I don't know. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm Quote:
This year, I will pay around a total of $10,000.00 for proper commercial insurance and CTP. Is that what she originally paid? I'll bet not. She will not have told her insurers she was running her Car as an 'Uber.' That Maxi you were in might have looked like a 2004 model, but I can assure you, it was not. Qld Transport see cars more than six years old off the road as a Cab. It is impossible for that Cab to have been 13 years old. It may have been aged and had many miles on it, but it was less than 6 years old. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 31st, 2017 at 3:04pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 2:46pm:
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Well, I'm certainly no expert, but I had the same van, just not the commuter (with the extra seats in the back). If I'm mistaken I'll wear that, but if I had to swear under oath what it was that I was sitting in, I'd have no issue sticking to my original claim. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 3:47pm
Just to assist....after six years, Transport would not have allowed the owner to re-new registration as a Cab. Their systems automatically block.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 31st, 2017 at 3:58pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 3:47pm:
I appreciate that. In that case at best, I'm mistaken and the van was not a 2004 model or at worse, my experience was one of an unscrupulous individual plate holder. Either way, it's hardly representative of the industry as a whole, just my own anecdotal experience. I still think that the Taxi industry needs to do more than just attack Uber. They need to be more like Uber in some ways, and better than them (therefore less like them) and their current incarnation in others. I've just looked at their latest app, I'm yet to install it, but it appears to make booking much easier, that's a plus. My first experience with the Gold Coast Cabs app, it was literally an app that when you press "Book Now" it would call the 131008 number haha... |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 4:01pm
Keep a keen eye out in the coming election campaign.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 31st, 2017 at 4:11pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 4:01pm:
Out of curiosity, can the app handle payment like Uber? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 4:18pm SadKangaroo wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 4:11pm:
Can't speak for what is on offer at the Gold Coast....but up here, I think there is an option to enter card details first or not. Personally, I say it is an invasion of privacy to force people to hand over credit card details to taxi companies. Who knows what rogue might seek to benefit from that. I hope ours offers that choice, but I don't know....I still use the phone. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 31st, 2017 at 4:21pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 4:18pm:
The thing I liked the most about Uber is I can see the route the driver will take, either on their device or mine, and when I get to the destination I can just say thank you and go on my way. I don't need to wait for them to count change, I don't need to wait for their eftpos machine to connect, just out the door. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 4:26pm
You can see the same thing on the Cab app.....you'll be told the Cab number, given his phone number, and you will see him on his way to you. I think you even get an audible alert when the Cab is about to arrive.
As for ease of payment, give it a go. I don't know how the Gold Coast mob have set themselves up. It may well be as simple as you describe....I dunno. For me, I'd rather keep my card details to myself. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 4:33pm Quote:
Ask him what his price is. I'll buy. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 5:03pm Quote:
So, how does that work? (I know the answer....I just want others to hear about from you, rather than me who obviously has a vested interest.) |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 31st, 2017 at 5:13pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 5:03pm:
Call them first, give them a heads up and they'll have the app ready, order the Uber and they'll try to accept it instantly while on the line. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 5:24pm SadKangaroo wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 5:13pm:
Come orn Mr Kangaroo! Why bother with that? The smart Gubers ask their clients to ring direct, and a cash deal is done so Driver gets 100% cutting Uber out altogether. Cabbies try it too but they get caught with lousy mileage rates or because I can see on my computer screen if he is moving and whether his meter is on. Uber has no such control. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by red baron on May 31st, 2017 at 7:43pm
You have my sympathy on this one Aussie. Uber is a recipe for disaster, unvetted drivers to whom you put your personal safety or the safety of your loved ones in
Talk about rolling the dice. If ever I need a ride, it will be by registered Taxi Just remember folks, you only have to be wrong once and..you could well end up dead Sorry that's just the retired Cop in me speaking But have a little think about that one |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Fireball on May 31st, 2017 at 7:47pm
Are 'Registered Taxi Drivers' Advance Drivers? Have they passed an advanced test?
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 7:48pm Fuzzball wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 7:47pm:
No. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Fireball on May 31st, 2017 at 7:50pm
Then passengers are no more at risk with Uber drivers.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Mistress Nicole on May 31st, 2017 at 7:52pm Fuzzball wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 7:47pm:
Of course. I finished my Masters in Cab Driving last year. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Ramp7 on May 31st, 2017 at 7:56pm
Uber drivers are required to provide a police background check. What's the difference
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 8:03pm Ramp7 wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 7:56pm:
Not in Qld. Your terminology is wrong. They are supposed to have a Queensland Drivers Authority, just like Cab Drivers must have. You apply to Qld Transport. Qld Transport will then conduct whatever search they do with Police Records.....Cabbies and Gubers, the same. But, the difference is that within the Taxi Industry, there are ongoing daily checks on the ongoing Licence status of every Cabbie. Uber could not care less. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Ramp7 on May 31st, 2017 at 8:04pm
Driver Requirements
There are four basic requirements you need to fulfill to partner with Uber. Note, each state/city has it's own specific requirements, so be sure to check your location: 21 years of age or older with 3 or more years of US driving experience Or, 23 years of age or older with 1 or more years of US driving experience A valid driver’s license Valid vehicle registration A clean driving record and criminal history After signing up, complete a background check online. The check will scan the last seven years of your driving record to ensure you’ve had: No DUI or drug-related offenses No fatal accidents No history of reckless driving No criminal record |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 8:07pm Ramp7 wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 8:04pm:
Do you really want me to drag out all the experiences in the US where absolute arseholes of the worst criminal kind have become Uber drivers. Do the google yourself 'Ramp7.' |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Ramp7 on May 31st, 2017 at 8:17pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 8:07pm:
Well my personal experience of catching cabs for years is that taxis are smelly and unreliable and the drivers are terrible. One touch of my phone and a clean car with a polite driver takes me safely to my destination. I don't care what happens in the USA. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 8:40pm
Yet, you quoted a US source.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Ramp7 on May 31st, 2017 at 8:54pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 8:40pm:
Uber Australia also requires a police background and license check so an uber driver is no less trustworthy than a taxi driver. Everybody loves Uber , it's the way off the future. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on May 31st, 2017 at 9:09pm
Yes, and it will be bankrupt inside ten years. It is totally unsustainable.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Ramp7 on May 31st, 2017 at 9:13pm Aussie wrote on May 31st, 2017 at 9:09pm:
In 10 years there will be something better than Uber and a million times better than smells cabs. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:37pm |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Fireball on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:44pm Aussie wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:37pm:
Have you got cabs in America bushy? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:48pm Fuzzball wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:44pm:
No. How is that relevant? Do you reckon Uber Australia will be any different except as to quantum? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Fireball on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:51pm Aussie wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:48pm:
Just found it strange that you are whining on about something that doesn't affect you........on reflection.....its not strange, you whine about everything..... |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:55pm Fuzzball wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:51pm:
If its making loses in the USA, it is making losses everywhere. It simply cannot last. It is totally unsustainable. The business model is completely flawed....obviously. If you were a shareholder, you'd be furious. It is just another, but giant, Ponzi. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:56pm Fuzzball wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 3:51pm:
I think Uber vs Taxis around the world is relevant. I feel for those in our local taxi industries that are hurting because of actions they have no control over, but Uber has shown there are better ways to handle business. Some good, some bad. The future will be a meld of the two models, but who comes out on top, I think while Uber's losses are certainly real, look at how many people are trying to sell their taxi plates. It's not a good sign. Yes Uber may be in trouble, but can the taxi industry as we know it survive long enough to be the last man standing or will the Uber clones be the final nails in the coffin? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 1st, 2017 at 4:09pm
Governments will soon have to confront the fact they are allowing a nonviable yet new toy stuff what was a perfectly functioning small business activity in a successful industry which was, in Qld, delivering precisely what Government regulated it to deliver. The next election will be very interesting as the Industry mobilises as it never has before, but was trialed in Longman in the last Federal election and we saw Wyatt Roy booted. Watch that space.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Ramp7 on Jun 1st, 2017 at 4:25pm
Perhaps if individual cab owners ran their business to a higher standard Uber would never have been able to get a foothold.
In NSW, particularly Sydney cabs are a disgrace. They smell, the drivers don't know where they're going and their driving skills are atrocious. Since the introduction of Uber all the cab industry has done is piss and moan instead of putting their energy into improving service. While I feel sorry for the individuals who've lost money on their taxi plate it needs to be put in context that it's an investment and with self driving cars on the horizon, the value of taxi plates looks bleak. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Secret Wars on Jun 1st, 2017 at 4:37pm
Uber may be buggered but so is the taxi industry as you know it. Uber was the first of many.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 1st, 2017 at 4:45pm
Yeah, as much as it may be difficult for some to accept, the Taxi industry had become complacent and left the door open for something like Uber to come along. It's not fair to brand all the individual operators that way, but so many people I've spoken to prefer Uber and the risks involved because they've had such bad experiences with normal taxis.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Secret Wars on Jun 1st, 2017 at 4:48pm
Damn straight, I wouldn't go back to taxis with my own money. I still use taxis though but that is cabcharges and locked in. Comparing both back to back is chalk and cheese.
Taxi industry had a cartel too long and got complacent. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 1st, 2017 at 5:08pm Secret Wars wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 4:37pm:
I'll restrict my comments to Qld.....as I know that jurisdiction very well, others...not so well. Here, we are not buggered, and we will not be buggered as soon as Government gets off its arse, opens its eyes, gets some competence within the Department ~ there is no-one there, in the section dealing with Uber, with more than two years experience and all the positions they occupy are casual....ergo, Government has not got a clue what it is doing, but Politicians will not be able to ignore the issue for much longer....as if they do, they'll be on their arse, just like Wyatt Roy was put on his arse. To provide an example ~ the only Licence I now own is what was called an 'owner operator multi' Licence. That meant (even though I hold it in a Company name.....) I, as the Director, had to do 150 shifts in the Cab each year, (or someone else in a Senior Position in the Company had to....so that condition was easily got around by appointing a regular driver as General Manager and giving them just the name, no control, to fulfill that condition.) The 'multi' bit was that the vehicle used had to be at least a seven seater. Because of those two conditions, the difference in value between it and one with no such conditions, was considerable...say about $150,000.00. Out of the blue, a couple of weeks ago, I get a letter from the Department telling me that my Licence is now unconditional....as they decided to drop the two conditions I mentioned. In pre Uber terms, they just handed me a considerable sum of money......for nothing. They have no idea what they are doing. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Secret Wars on Jun 1st, 2017 at 5:15pm Aussie wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 5:08pm:
Uber was just the first, there is a new taxi paradigm now, disruption innit. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 1st, 2017 at 5:16pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 4:45pm:
What are those issues, and you will need to refer them to Government...as Government has absolute control of the Qld Taxi Industry. The Taxi Industry did not leave any door open.....Uber strode in as an outlaw, completely ignored the Law, did what they wanted...and the Government pood itself, believing it was outgunned. They stopped enforcing the Law. The Rule of Law went out the window. Only now, slowly, are they clawing some control back, but it will only be when there is truly a level playing field....we go down to Uber's zero control, or Uber comes up to our level of control, or Government sets a new level for all.....that the Taxi Industry will shut up. Let's all play by the same Rules. Simple. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 5:06pm
How long have I been saying it? Uber be ferked I tells ya!
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sir lastnail on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 6:59pm
You don't need to worry about Uber because it has many competitors. So even if Uber goes it will have many willing to take its place ;)
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 7:10pm Sir lastnail wrote on Jun 22nd, 2017 at 6:59pm:
Sure....no worries. So long as they comply with the Law on a level playing field, all good. Problem is...they can't survive on their business models, just like Uber can't. It is just throwing money into a very black hole. I tells ya. :) |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by AiA on Jun 28th, 2017 at 8:30am
Lots of news about some passenger suing Uber for his stolen laptop in a car. Can't believe the courts awarded him what he asked for, including court costs and other fees.
Whenever I get in a private car, I always note the license plate and the driver's name. If I have to leave something in the car to remove something else (say leaving a backpack but removing luggage) I turn my video camera on my phone on and tell the driver "please turn off the engine while I remove my backpack and luggage." If a driver steals from me, I just go to small claim's court and get a judgment. Then I sell that judgment to a collector for pennies on the dollar so it will bugger up his credit for 10 years. I wouldn't hold Uber responsible for what a private driver does. Uber just puts me in touch with drivers who want me to hire them for 1 ride. They are not employees of Uber. Does Yelp employ all the restaurants and stores they connect customers with? Does Google employ all the news sites and blogs they connect customers with? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Jovial Monk on Jun 28th, 2017 at 4:14pm |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 28th, 2017 at 5:19pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jun 28th, 2017 at 4:14pm:
Yes. Arseholes, they be. And Uber be ferked! |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 28th, 2017 at 6:49pm |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 28th, 2017 at 9:41pm Aussie wrote on Jun 28th, 2017 at 6:49pm:
I hope that something good comes out of all this. If it is to protect the current Taxi Industry and nothing else, it will be a great disservice to the people who need the services. Uber showed how flawed the Taxi Industry is (for all their own flaws). If that isn't fixed then it will have been nothing but a monopoly protecting waste of time. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jun 28th, 2017 at 9:48pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 28th, 2017 at 9:41pm:
Level playing field. I don't care who wants to be part of the 'Cab' Industry, so long as we are all obliged to play by the same Rules. Uber could not care about Rules, and even then, is still not financially viable. It is bleeding billions and is flouting the Law. When is the last time you actually took a Cab? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Jovial Monk on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 6:37am |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Jovial Monk on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 5:47pm
The ATO is going to have a field day with Uber drivers and the like this year by the looks of it.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/ato-writes-to-60000-uber-and-other-ridesharing-drivers-asking-them-to-register-for-gst-20170629-gx12xb.html |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 5:56pm Jovial Monk wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 5:47pm:
Yeas, old news in a recent story. Uber be ferked, I tells ya. Always was, is, and always will be. But......the knuckleheads keep thinking that buying 'tax free' alcohol out of the boot of a private car parked under a shady tree (instead of from a licenced retailer) because it is cheaper will be a great way to go, and will last. Idiots. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 6:10pm Aussie wrote on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 5:56pm:
You keep saying that and there isn't much debate on the issue, certainly not from me. But as I've also said, Uber's popularity and uptake just goes to show, even with all their faults, how bad the alternative is. I wouldn't shed a tear if Uber disappeared. It's become almost impossible to make a buck or stand out as a driver. But the Taxi industry innovated via their monopoly, meaning they didn't really do much if anything for far too long. It was only until after Uber that the local Gold Coast booking system developed apps for booking. You still can't pay via the app and literally, the first iteration of the app was a "Book Now" button which triggered your phone to call the booking number. For me the ease of use of an Uber plus not having to wait for over an hour at the taxi rank to get a ride home on a Saturday night was the biggest drawing card. I could book the Uber, stay in the Pub/Club until it got close then head outside. You book a Taxi, you might get an SMS when they're near, head outside, wait another 15-20 minutes then they show. Ignoring their (Edit: Uber's) operating issues, their booking, tracking and payment system, basically the App itself was what made me switch. If there was an app like this for regular Taxis I would have never used an Uber. I don't mind paying a fair price to get home safely and to enjoy my night without the responsibility of driving, but after using Uber, Taxis seem inconvenient and antiquated. I also have friends who have seen the value of their Taxi plates drop in a big way and I empathise for them. It's not up to them to innovate in the booking and payment space, but at the same time when the Uber experiment is over or the playing field leveled, if the Taxi industry fails to innovate to at least the standard of Uber's booking, tracking and payment systems it will have all been for nothing. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 2nd, 2017 at 6:24pm Quote:
I can't speak for the Gold Coast. I can for the Sunshine Coast and I'd be quite surprised if we led the way, and that Brisbane and the Gold Coast did not have what we had....way before Uber turned up. We had an app which did everything the Uber app did, except we did not ask for or trap your credit card details. That would have been wisely cautionary on our part. I do not want to have your credit card stuff, and I certainly would never hand 'Uber,' an outlaw, my credit card details. What is left of a perfectly functioning taxi industry (Government requirements ~ 'minimal service levels' were routinely met) before Government was left shell shocked by a cashed up Outlaw arriving and taking over is yet to be seen. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 8th, 2017 at 1:41pm
I know the Taxi Industry has its rogues but if you reckon you are safe in an Uber, think again.
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Sure, they get Transport Dept checks, but that's it. Zero other security measures. We have many and just one is that every Cab Company and Cab owner can track their Cabs live. We know what speed they are doing, exactly where they are and whether they have the meter on. Not so with Uber. They can hide where they are from Uber HQ. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jul 8th, 2017 at 2:32pm
Yet despite all the claims you make people still choose Uber over the Taxis of old. Something is wrong, you're right about that, but it may not be limited to where you think.
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 8th, 2017 at 2:49pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 8th, 2017 at 2:32pm:
I know exactly what is wrong. Government expected this nice new toy to place nice, to be benevolent, to be a cheap service provider, a safe new thing for the plebs to play with....and they did nothing to control them despite being constantly reminded by the Taxi Industry of the obvious....we were heavily regulated (willingly in most cases) to maximise public safety, so why were those regulations imposed on the basis of public safety no longer necessary......for the shiney new toy? It has taking them ages to realise they stuffed up, and it is only now that Government has realised it has made a serious blunder. I've used the example before. What do you reckon Government would do if I started selling cheap booze out of the boot of my car at public events and places? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 12th, 2017 at 1:14pm
Silly suckers.
Link. Dunno if it is in the article, but Uber sucks these vulnerable people in, arranging finance for them when they otherwise would not have a snow flakes chance of getting it. From that moment, the duped are at Uber's (lack of) mercy. Just grubs they be. Throw away the Uber app people. Don't deal with them! |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on Jul 13th, 2017 at 12:22pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 8th, 2017 at 2:32pm:
Because the taxi cartels aren't interested in gaining customers by improving their product - only by trying to keep other players out. If taxis had a great product the vast majority of people wouldn't bother with ride-sharing and it would have died years ago. Instead, we have an industry full of plate holders more concerned about the value of their asset than they are about running a taxi service. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jul 13th, 2017 at 12:28pm Stig wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 12:22pm:
Do you blame them though? The cost of the plates are exorbitant and much like the housing boom, there is no easy fix. You either help though that come after and hurt those who came before, or you protect those who came first and hurt those trying to come after. I'm not trying to defend the taxi industry or ride sharing, but I can see why people take sides on this issue. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 13th, 2017 at 12:28pm Stig wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 12:22pm:
No. What we have is a con-job pulled by an International Outlaw who bought the suckers in with what they thought were cheap fares. Now, all the weaknesses and rorts are now coming to the surface, it is crumbling faster than it always would, because the business model means throwing billions into a vortex. That cannot be sustained. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:17pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 12:28pm:
I understand why plate owners take the side they do, but when you look at transport as an industry and where it's going vs the public perception of the taxi industry, you have to question why anyone would spend megabucks speculating on the value of taxi plates. Uber isn't the first competitor, and won't be the last. Taxis are stuck trading off an ever shrinking point of difference. And that's before driverless cars become mainstream and smash everything |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:26pm
Stig, you really have no idea what you are talking about. i have over quite some time tried to inform you, but you choose blinkers, so I see little point in making any further attempt with you.
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Uber was the first to enter the market, blatantly and outrageously flout Laws, bluff Government with huge pockets and almost get away with it. The shiney new toy is fast losing its pathetic sheen. Your concern or the concern you ought have for others is ~ how much left of a viable Taxi Industry will there be, when Uber implodes. Right now, the disabled (not serviced by Uber) are feeling the pinch with fewer wheel chair Cabs being on the road through lack of drivers. They are parked up when they are needed by these people. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:51pm Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:26pm:
The fact that you see the only competitor to taxis as "Uber", or even ride sharing app companies in general, speaks volumes about how little you understand about the issue. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:54pm Stig wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:51pm:
Happy to be educated. Who else do you say was "in competition" with Cabs before Uber? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Stig on Jul 14th, 2017 at 8:09am Aussie wrote on Jul 13th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
Shuttle services for one. 20 years ago there were bugger all, now the airport is swimming with them. And they run pretty much everywhere - to and from airports, footy matches, cruise terminals, concerts etc. Ever wonder why there's so few of the old "maxi taxis" left? Then there's the various "limo" services. Last time someone ran into my car a few years back and I put it in for repairs, the insurer gave me a limo (basically an upmarket car, not a stretch job or anything) to and from my office. Some corporates now do deals with limo companies because they can get set fares at basically the same price as a cab. And inner-city types are taking up car shares which are cheaper than cabs and actually get you somewhere (as cabbies hate short fares and often wont show). All of these are perfectly legal, were around before Uber, and are taking market share away from taxis. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:28am Stig wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 8:09am:
Sure, but they were not operating as though they were Taxis. They too were heavily controlled, regulated and licensed by Government. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:29am
Two 'Uber' rapes in a week and in both cases, Plod believes there are other victims.
Link. Still, no security cameras in Ubers. Grubs. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jul 14th, 2017 at 1:34pm Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:29am:
I am in no why defending the likes of that scum, but you do realise there are literally 100s of stories in a quick google search of Taxi Drivers being found guilty of crimes? That said, if the Government will enact legislation around ride sharing I hope they include measures designed to protect the drivers and their passengers. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jul 14th, 2017 at 1:44pm Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:28am:
But these days anything that takes business away from Taxis should be considered their competition. On the Gold Coast I'd used Taxis for short interstate trips to get to the airport in the past. These days door to door the fare is around $140 to the Gold Coast airport, not even Brisbane. Soon the light rail will link to the main rail line and the Gold Coast airport and the main rail line itself to the airport too. Even before ride sharing apps, if I would travel for 2 or 3 nights it's still far cheaper to drive, park in the offsite parking near the airport and take their shuttle to the terminal. And on the Gold Coast we even have a tourist shuttle bus that goes around the major hotels and resorts, theme parks and the airport. I'm lucky there is a tourist park 5mins walk from home so I can use the tourist shuttle to and from the airport for $30. And trying to get a Taxi late at night on a Friday or Saturday night, 2+ hours waiting at the taxi rank. Come new years, if you're in town, it's quicker to walk home (2.5 hours, and you're drunk enough to do it) than wait for a taxi. People have been begging for alternatives for a long time. Ride Sharing was looking like it would fill that need, but those who started it quickly cashed out and all the industry cares about now is money. They've become like the Taxi industry. The problem is for Taxis to compete with what makes ride sharing more popular, they wouldn't be sustainable or people would lose 10s or even 100s of thousands of dollars on the decreased value of their plates. There is also a massive tech divide too. Payment is a pain and there are still booking fees and other charges. Sure they exist in Uber too, but it doesn't cost anywhere near as much as a taxi fare. It's a real pickle we're in. At least on the Gold Coast, even with the improving public transport, you need a car. It's a must. And because of that, our roads are stuffed. The Government need to step in and regulate ride sharing, BUT, if their intention is nothing more than to protect their imposed taxi monopolies, any attempt they make in regulation will be a fail. I suspect this is what the taxi lobby and advocates want. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 14th, 2017 at 1:50pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
I have always acknowledged the scum in the Cab Industry. Never have denied it. But, in a Cab there is the deterrent of a camera active 24/7. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 14th, 2017 at 1:52pm SadKangaroo wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 1:44pm:
No, all we want is a level playing field, and if that involves diminution in 'plate' value, Government pays the appropriate pre-Uber compensation. It was Government which issued and received hundreds of thousands of dollars for those Government issued 'plates.' |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Jul 20th, 2017 at 12:32pm Aussie wrote on Jul 14th, 2017 at 11:29am:
And there was at least one other victim. Link. Quote:
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Aug 13th, 2017 at 2:54pm
And they are still at it.
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The Qld Govt cannot keep ignoring this. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Aug 26th, 2017 at 4:22pm |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Aug 26th, 2017 at 8:28pm |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Sep 23rd, 2017 at 4:02pm
Uber on the nose in London. Gee....who'd a predicted it.........oh I know......me!
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Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Sep 30th, 2017 at 4:38pm
I know..sexual assault by Cabbies is not unknown but this is really starting to stack up on Uber.
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The fifth...and none linked with another. |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Redmond Neck on Sep 30th, 2017 at 4:45pm Aussie wrote on Sep 30th, 2017 at 4:38pm:
Are they tinted with big black unkempt beards Aussie? |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Aussie on Sep 30th, 2017 at 4:55pm Quote:
No idea. Can't see what/why it matters. They are Uber's 'partners.' |
Title: Re: I tells ya....Uber be ferked. Post by Redmond Neck on Sep 30th, 2017 at 5:02pm Aussie wrote on Sep 30th, 2017 at 4:55pm:
I suspect Herb can explain! |
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