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Message started by The Mechanic on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am

Title: sounds about right...
Post by The Mechanic on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am
[list bull-redball]
  • 1 Immediate withdrawal from the United Nations, and an indefinite embargo on the acceptance of Refugees who are of the Islamic persuasion.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 2 The immediate halving of all overseas aid, National disasters exempt.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 3 Implementation of National Service for all those leaving High School, who have no definitive plans in progress, such as apprenticeships, or are moving on to university. Two years tenure of National service to be performed in Australia. Homeland service to include their utilization as a ready reaction force in times of natural disaster.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 4 Immediate removal from all Federal, State and Local Government offices, those members who are in breach of the requirements as laid down in the Australian Constitution, in swearing allegiance to the Commonwealth of Australia by the taking of the oath on the Bible, no other form of oath to be recognized.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 5 Immediate banning of all Islamic Head wear in Australia.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 6 Immediate closure of all Islamic Schools, Mosques and Places of learning. The property and assets to be appropriated to the Government.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 7 Immediate removal of the requirements for Australian foodstuffs to be Halal certified.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 8 Immediate removal of the 457 Visa programme.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 9 Immediate adoption of a National Zero Policy of tolerance, in regards to Non Residents and criminal activities.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 10 Non Residents convicted in any Australian Federal court to be deported immediately having served their term of imprisonment, where holding dual citizenship, also implementation of a policy of No Court of Appeal or access to Australian Free Legal Aid.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 11 Notwithstanding the above, the immediate families of convicted non residents are deported immediately where holding dual citizenship.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 12 All Politicians relinquish all rights to the Government Gold parliamentary privileges after retirement,
    Free Travel, pensions and all allowances that reflect on their previous employment.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 13 The Parliamentary term be for the full term and the nominated Leader, Prime Minister, be retained for the full tenure, with no prerogative of the standing Party to change Leadership during that tenure.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 14 Medicare is retained in its present form but open for further analysis at a later date.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 15 Immediate overhaul of the Taxation payments of Australian businesses, with overseas shareholders, investors and Directors.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 16 Immediate investigation into the Panama Papers release to ascertain the implications of Australian Companies and personnel.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 17 The immediate upgrading of the Australian Defence Force to five times its present status.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 18 Immediate negotiations with Russia in regards to Bi-lateral trade and Global security.


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  • 19 The immediate investigation of the plight of Australia’s rural industries in regards to drought relief, sustainability and production.



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  • 20 The immediate cessation of sales of any Australian land to overseas investors, further prohibiting the investment of any overseas country into Australia’s Natural resources and minerals.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 21 The immediate appropriation of all Australia’s natural resources and minerals, currently operated and owned by single Australian entities, back to the Government, to be managed by the Government of Australia.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 22 The immediate closure and non recognition of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils.


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  • 23 Immediately declare the Islamic organisation Hizb Ut-Tahir, a terrorist organisation and ban it from Australian shores.

  • Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by The Mechanic on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am
    would anyone like to add anything else??

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Sir Bobby on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:03am

    President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am:
    would anyone like to add anything else??



    You forgot about public hangings for:

    murderers
    rapists
    thieves
    pedophiles &
    terrorists

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by cods on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:07am

    Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:03am:

    President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am:
    would anyone like to add anything else??



    You forgot about public hangings for:

    murderers
    rapists
    thieves
    pedophiles &
    terrorists



    and ponzee forum snarlies...

    who crack up at everything.... YESSSSSSSSSSS

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Valkie on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:32am
    With a little moderation.
    I agree with most of it

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:14am
    Not sure about no legal aid or punishment of family as well......... those sound a little extreme to me.  A person accused is entitled to have his/her case heard with assistance, and only the individual involved can be guilty of the crime or offence.

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by John Smith on Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:22am
    4, 5, 6, 11, 22, 23 are all a load of rubbish, the others are worth considering

    ohh, number 7 is a load of crap. There is no requirement for anything to be halal certified now. Companies choose to do it because they want to.

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by The_Barnacle on Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:32am

    Quote:
    the immediate families of convicted non residents are deported immediately where holding dual citizenship.


    You can't punish people who haven't done anything wrong, unless you want to turn us into an authoritarian state, which judging by your other demands. is exactly what you want


    Quote:
    Kin punishment has been used authoritarian states as a form of extortion or harassment. Countries that have practiced kin punishment include pre-Christian European cultures, Nazi Germany, Soviet Union, and non-Western cultures such as China and Japan.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kin_punishment

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:50am

    President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am:
    would anyone like to add anything else??


    Yes.

    Why don't you cite your source?


    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by The_Barnacle on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:05am

    greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 10:50am:
    Why don't you cite your source?


    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
    We all know that the Mechanic never cites his source.
    He hasn't worked out how to post a link yet. he's not too bright

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Ajax on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:18am

    President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am:
    1 Immediate withdrawal from the United Nations

    2 The immediate halving of all overseas aid, National disasters exempt.

    4 Immediate removal from all Federal, State and Local Government offices, those members who are in breach of the requirements as laid down in the Australian Constitution

    8 Immediate removal of the 457 Visa programme

    9 Immediate adoption of a National Zero Policy of tolerance, in regards to Non Residents and criminal activities

    10 Non Residents convicted in any Australian Federal court to be deported immediately having served their term of imprisonment, where holding dual citizenship, also implementation of a policy of No Court of Appeal or access to Australian Free Legal Aid.

    12 All Politicians relinquish all rights to the Government Gold parliamentary privileges after retirement, Free Travel, pensions and all allowances that reflect on their previous employment.

    13 The Parliamentary term be for the full term and the nominated Leader, Prime Minister, be retained for the full tenure, with no prerogative of the standing Party to change Leadership during that tenure.

    14 Medicare is retained in its present form but open for further analysis at a later date.

    15 Immediate overhaul of the Taxation payments of Australian businesses, with overseas shareholders, investors and Directors.

    16 Immediate investigation into the Panama Papers release to ascertain the implications of Australian Companies and personnel.

    18 Immediate negotiations with Russia in regards to Bi-lateral trade and Global security.

    19 The immediate investigation of the plight of Australia’s rural industries in regards to drought relief, sustainability and production.

    20 The immediate cessation of sales of any Australian land to overseas investors, further prohibiting the investment of any overseas country into Australia’s Natural resources and minerals

    21 The immediate appropriation of all Australia’s natural resources and minerals, currently operated and owned by single Australian entities, back to the Government, to be managed by the Government of Australia.


    I agree with most of it.............. 8-)

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by The_Barnacle on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:27am

    President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am:
    [list bull-redball]
  • 9 Immediate adoption of a National Zero Policy of tolerance, in regards to Non Residents and criminal activities.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 10 Non Residents convicted in any Australian Federal court to be deported immediately having served their term of imprisonment, where holding dual citizenship, also implementation of a policy of No Court of Appeal or access to Australian Free Legal Aid.


  • Mechanic I think you might be a bit confused about what a "non resident" is.
    You do realise that a non resident is someone who doesn't live in Australia.

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:35am

    The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 11:27am:

    President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am:
    [list bull-redball]
  • 9 Immediate adoption of a National Zero Policy of tolerance, in regards to Non Residents and criminal activities.


    [list bull-redball]
  • 10 Non Residents convicted in any Australian Federal court to be deported immediately having served their term of imprisonment, where holding dual citizenship, also implementation of a policy of No Court of Appeal or access to Australian Free Legal Aid.


  • Mechanic I think you might be a bit confused about what a "non resident" is.
    You do realise that a non resident is someone who doesn't live in Australia.


    The old pom lives a life of total confusion.

    Still no source reference, I see.


    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by tickleandrose on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:52pm
    11 Notwithstanding the above, the immediate families of convicted non residents are deported immediately where holding dual citizenship.

    This sounds very familiar.  I think... err... that's right, North Korea have a policy similar to this.  The immediate family of convicted also gets punished.   

    9 Immediate adoption of a National Zero Policy of tolerance, in regards to Non Residents and criminal activities

    10 Non Residents convicted in any Australian Federal court to be deported immediately having served their term of imprisonment, where holding dual citizenship, also implementation of a policy of No Court of Appeal or access to Australian Free Legal Aid.

    If they hold dual citizenship, then they are not 'non residents' <if this is the correct phrase.  So, a 'non resident' can be falsely accused of a crime, will not get support to defend his case.  Will be imprisoned without a fail trial (if he / she is poor), and then upon releasing, him/her and the entire immediately family gets deported.   Wow... Just listen to yourself.

    Look, I will make it easy for you.  Just say... lobby for cessation of new immigration of non white, non christian individuals.  There you have it. 

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Ye Grappler on Mar 20th, 2017 at 1:23pm

    tickleandrose wrote on Mar 20th, 2017 at 12:52pm:
    11 Notwithstanding the above, the immediate families of convicted non residents are deported immediately where holding dual citizenship.

    This sounds very familiar.  I think... err... that's right, North Korea have a policy similar to this.  The immediate family of convicted also gets punished.   

    9 Immediate adoption of a National Zero Policy of tolerance, in regards to Non Residents and criminal activities

    10 Non Residents convicted in any Australian Federal court to be deported immediately having served their term of imprisonment, where holding dual citizenship, also implementation of a policy of No Court of Appeal or access to Australian Free Legal Aid.

    If they hold dual citizenship, then they are not 'non residents' <if this is the correct phrase.  So, a 'non resident' can be falsely accused of a crime, will not get support to defend his case.  Will be imprisoned without a fail trial (if he / she is poor), and then upon releasing, him/her and the entire immediately family gets deported.   Wow... Just listen to yourself.

    Look, I will make it easy for you.  Just say... lobby for cessation of new immigration of non white, non christian individuals.  There you have it. 



    Easy - simply re-define being of certain groups a crime against the Australian Volk and apply a zero standard of requirement for proof (sound familiar?) .. kinda like Adolph did... legislation is infinitely malleable, but unfortunately Law is not, and the point of departure for this Nation began when the legislators started to step over the line.... to my mind, that move was the beginning of The Downfall of this Nation as a good country in which to live, and opened it up to despotism of the legislators, and probable future internal conflict between People and Government.

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Sad Kangaroo on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 1:29pm

    President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 7:57am:
    would anyone like to add anything else??


    This was nothing but a copy/paste regurgitation from the extremist nutter Christian racists who think those actions will help strengthen the number for the next generation of Christians, which it won't.

    It's the typical light on fact mixed with a total miss of the target area when it comes to those actions solving the problems that have been identified (which those issues weren't even identified in this post).

    But the total lack of issues identified that these actiosn are to resolve, it doesn't take much research to find the sourced of where this crap was lifted.  It's the wet dream of the "bugger off we're full" crowd and what helps the other bigoted idiots who think that the "islamification of Australia almost complete" sleep at night.

    It's no wonder it resonates so well with you Mech.

    If you were really concerned about issues caused by multiculturalism and immigration you'd firstly bother to identify the areas in which we need reform, what you think the outcome should be and then what steps to take to reach said outcomes.

    But instead you copy/paste this crap that was first lifted from /TheDonld (because they love Russia) then spread around the racist local hate groups on facebook with an aussie twist hating on Turnbull and applauding those idiots in One Nation.

    But let's say you're serious about implementing these changes, would you propose applying them across the board to all religions?

    Are we going to close all Christian schools and places of worship too?

    I might be able to get more supportive if this was a way to free us of all religion, but you'd still need some work on a sustainable immigration plan.  The reality is, while we may be able to close our borders in the short term (theoretically), it would ruin the nation if it was a long term policy, and that's not up for debate, it's simple fact. 

    I assume point 10 is referring to non-Permanent Residents?  This would be people on temporary visas?  I doubt you know since it's not your list, nor do I hold you in high enough regard to assume you could actually comprehend much of what it contains, but I'd love to know the answer if I'm wrong and you do in fact know the detail.

    Either way, there are already character fitness assessments that would require their deportation as they wouldn't be eligible for a visa after their imprisonment.  But the idea of anyone going through our legal system, citizen, resident or otherwise being unable to have adequate legal representation is very disturbing.

    The list is nothing but a political game to make who ever suggests it seem strong on borders, nationalism and of course, anti-islam, but it won't actually do anything but cause more problems if these points ever transitioned into the foundation of legislation.

    Until the idiots who support and share such nonsense bother educate themselves to the facts and realities one the subjects raised, I propose a new item for your list:

    [list bull-redball]
  • 24: Those who support the previous 23 points and think it will actually achieve the goals this poster was too shy to admit to, they should lose their right to vote since they appear too stupid, be their IQ too low, they willfully ignorant to the facts or simply want someone else to blame, for their vote to be taken seriously. 
    They should take no part in forming public policy.

    And as tongue-in-cheek absurd as that is (I wouldn't support something like that in more than a joke for a second), it's still a more grounded and realistic an idea than the other 23 points you posted.

  • Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 1:52pm

    Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:32am:
    With a little moderation.
    I agree with most of it


    So do I.

    Good effort Mechanic.

    ***

    Some modifications I would make.

    4 Immediate removal from all Federal, State and Local Government offices, those members who are in breach of the requirements as laid down in the Australian Constitution, in swearing allegiance to the Commonwealth of Australia by the taking of the oath on the Bible, no other form of oath to be recognized.

    I agree the Koran is far too fraught with Medieval values to be acceptable for swearing allegiance to Australia, but a secular oath for the pagans among us would have to be included.

    ***

    6 Immediate closure of all Islamic Schools, Mosques and Places of learning. The property and assets to be appropriated to the Government.

    ;D ;D ;D

    If only ....

    The horse has already bolted. Driving them all underground would be worse than having them operating openly and available to secret monitoring.

    ***

    17 The immediate upgrading of the Australian Defence Force to five times its present status.

    Nope.

    Constantly upgrading the military equipment to be State of the Art would be my choice.

    ***

    The immediate closure and non recognition of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils.

    Nope.

    Keep them visible and accountable.

    ***

    No hijabs? Damn right. They irritate the crap out of me, the pretentious bitches. 

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 1:55pm

    Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 9:14am:
    Not sure about no legal aid or punishment of family as well.........


    It's called 'Home Policing' - the nearest thing to having Muslim youths living with a cop in the family home.



    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 2:01pm

    Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 1:52pm:

    Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:32am:
    With a little moderation.
    I agree with most of it


    So do I.

    Good effort Mechanic.



    You don't really believe that's the work of The Mechanic, do you?

    He plagiarised it, from "The Voices of Australia"   ;D

    "THE VOICES OF AUSTRALIA DEMAND THE FOLLOWING IMMEDIATE SECURITY ACTION BY OUR GOVERNMENT"

    "We stand under the Flag of a Christian/Judea Religion and the Monarchy".



    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 2:23pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 2:01pm:

    Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 1:52pm:

    Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:32am:
    With a little moderation.
    I agree with most of it


    So do I.

    Good effort Mechanic.



    You don't really believe that's the work of The Mechanic, do you?

    He plagiarised it, from "The Voices of Australia"   ;D

    "THE VOICES OF AUSTRALIA DEMAND THE FOLLOWING IMMEDIATE SECURITY ACTION BY OUR GOVERNMENT"

    "We stand under the Flag of a Christian/Judea Religion and the Monarchy".


    That he agrees with it is all that matters, pudding head.

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 3:27pm

    Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 2:23pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 2:01pm:

    Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 1:52pm:

    Valkie wrote on Mar 19th, 2017 at 8:32am:
    With a little moderation.
    I agree with most of it


    So do I.

    Good effort Mechanic.



    You don't really believe that's the work of The Mechanic, do you?

    He plagiarised it, from "The Voices of Australia"   ;D

    "THE VOICES OF AUSTRALIA DEMAND THE FOLLOWING IMMEDIATE SECURITY ACTION BY OUR GOVERNMENT"

    "We stand under the Flag of a Christian/Judea Religion and the Monarchy".


    That he agrees with it is all that matters, pudding head.


    Yes, agreeing with wonderful policies like:

    "5. Immediate banning of all Islamic Head wear in Australia."

    ;D

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by Lord Herbert on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 7:23pm

    greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 3:27pm:
    Yes, agreeing with wonderful policies like:

    "5. Immediate banning of all Islamic Head wear in Australia."

    ;D


    I agree with banning it, and I've written a thousands words here why I believe 'the veil' is a middle-finger to the rest of us.

    The fact that a lot of Muslim women choose not to wear hijabs is proof of it being nothing more than a whimsy and a divisive affectation that rejects assimilation into the majority mainstream society.

    I would happily assist with escorting these people to the airports for deportation.

    Their 'Holier than Thou' pretentiousness is a posture that our Western culture abhors, and these bitches know it irritates our cultural sensitivities.

    Title: Re: sounds about right...
    Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 7:28pm

    Lord Herbert wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 7:23pm:

    greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 22nd, 2017 at 3:27pm:
    Yes, agreeing with wonderful policies like:

    "5. Immediate banning of all Islamic Head wear in Australia."

    ;D


    I agree with banning it, and I've written a thousands words here why I believe 'the veil' is a middle-finger to the rest of us.


    And not one of those words helped to create a convincing argument.


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