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Title: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:14pm
This has been happening for a few years where total population growth rate has been exceeding 2%. The population growth rate needs to be subtracted from the percentage GDP growth to determine the truth.
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Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:17pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:14pm:
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Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:19pm Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:17pm:
I did not say they were from UK. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:20pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:19pm:
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Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:23pm Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:20pm:
Because they are well practiced at maximizing social welfare benefits after a lifetime of practice? |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:28pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:23pm:
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Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:33pm Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:28pm:
British Aboriginal welfare recipients are entitled to travel to Australia and collect Australian welfare benefits? |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Mr Hammer on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:44pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:33pm:
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Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:59pm Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:44pm:
What about Australian refugees like Andrei Hicks who are mooching off the UK welfare system? |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by UnSubRocky on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:29pm
What sort of money making concepts do you propose to boost the GDP, no matter how many people are in the immigration stream?
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Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 11th, 2016 at 12:14am UnSubRocky wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 11:29pm:
The only thing that would work in the short term is to cause a sharp drop in the A$ down to US$0.50 which is probably the true value of the A$. This would cause an immediate A$ increase in the value of resource and agricultural exports which would raise the A$ value of GDP instantaneously. This would also burn existing Chinese property investors who might be encouraged to get out of the property market and remit their money back which would reinforce downward pressure on the A$. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Karnal on Dec 11th, 2016 at 2:10am Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:17pm:
I won't give you a fish here, Homo, I'll show you how to use a rod. Which sector of the Australian economy has had the most growth over the past four years? No cheating here, leftards. Let Homo have a go. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:53am
68% of these third world reffos have never and will never hold down a job.
How does that benefit our country??????? |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by The_Barnacle on Dec 11th, 2016 at 10:06am Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 10th, 2016 at 9:17pm:
Valkie wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:53am:
;D The old trick of simultaneously accusing immigrants of stealing our jobs and bludging on welfare. Using immigrants as a scapegoat is a favourite of the right wing. Of course they get their inspiration from Nazi Germany which had the ultimate solution. The fact is that having a growing population is one of the easiest ways to grow GDP. It is the ultimate hypocrisy of the right wing members of this forum that they have enjoyed the benefits of this growing population and growing GDP whilst simultaneously demonizing those who helped provide it. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Karnal on Dec 11th, 2016 at 11:29am Valkie wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:53am:
Refugee are not migrants. The refugee intake is about 12,000 a year. The skilled migration intakes's about 180,000. Now. Would you like to show your proof that 68% of reffos will never hold down a job? We know you can't, and you won't, but would you at least like to show the thinking behind your figure? |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 11th, 2016 at 12:31pm Valkie wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:53am:
100% of Valkie can't hold down a job. Each third world refugee is worth a truckload of shiftless indolent Valkies. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 11th, 2016 at 1:17pm Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 11:29am:
Cant find the original article. But this one may be more relevant. But I know you will dispute this and come up with several other "Altered., Doctored, Corrected or adjusted" Figures to show otherwise. The fact is that new ILLEGAL arrivals, Predominantly Muzzos are a known drain on the system. Again, just so you have the facts clear in your pointy little head. I have no problem with LEGAL immigrants, especially those who work , pay taxes and contribute to our country. What I take offence at is the lazy, criminal, welfare cheating, parasites. Quote:
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Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 11th, 2016 at 2:05pm Valkie wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 1:17pm:
Like Valkie the unemployment consultant that can't hold down a job. Look in the mirror Valkie. Any refugee is worth a truckload of Valkies. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 11th, 2016 at 4:18pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 2:05pm:
Sad sad little troll. Have you ever had a job? Have you ever been accepted by another human? Do you wonder why females and even males ignore or avoid you? Toxic personalities like yours are a dime a dozen, and the one feature that is common to all is their inability to achieve anything with their lives. They are easy to spot. They make insulting remarks and attempt to belittle people in a futile attempt to make themselves feel superior. But this is not superiority, this is sad, sad self description. You will never be anything like a human, your insulting and degrading remarks ring true to only you. One liners that seek to hurt, but in fact do nothing but make me feel sad for you. You could never have the intestinal fortitude to face up to a man, so I guess Ill never meet you, coward trolls never do. I have more and have done more that you could ever aspire to in your wildest fantasies. Perhaps if you actually left the computer and went out into the real world. Tore yourself away from the flickering screen and met some real people who were not computer generated. Ill bet you even fantasize about being part of a family or team, but know that even your family avoid you because you are toxic. I will always be better than you. I will always be better than the lazy refugees that you so willingly defend, simply because I have and continue to contribute, something you and them have never done. You and your like are nothing sad little Trolls that have nothing to give and see the only way of making anything out of their sad little lives is by being insulting and sick. Like the Pecca, you have not the cerebral capacity to actually contribute to discussion, you have not the intelligence to put forward any idea or expand on any subject, you simply troll and make sick, twisted comments in your vain attempt to be something, anything, even if it is a troll. Begone sad one. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Karnal on Dec 11th, 2016 at 5:50pm
Looks like he's better than you, Forgiven.
Oh well. Try to Remember, every day in every way, things keep getting better and better. Who knows? One day you'll be as good as Valkie. You'll see. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 11th, 2016 at 5:52pm Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
Stirer.. ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:03pm Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
Valkie is certainly more expert and proficient than me at whining, bleating, blathering and riverdance. Unfortunately he is not good at any skills employers are seeking. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Karnal on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:31pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:03pm:
Yes, but is he white? |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:32pm Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:31pm:
Close enough. Black albino. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:36pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:03pm:
Still nothing from the troll with regard to any Qualifications??? What about some life skills perhaps if qualifications are not your forte? Have you any martial arts training or awards? Perhaps some athletic skills and abilities? Have you been anywhere other than in front of your computer? Perhaps you have helped the homeless or disadvantaged? Maybe volunteered for one of the emergency services? Give me something here little troll. You must have something/ I'm hanging out for something, I'm on your side little troll. Perhaps your trolling has managed to bear fruit for you and some poor soul has committed suicide because of your trolling, surely that is your primary aim? Isn't it Troll? |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:51pm
Come on troll
you can do better than that, surely. Posters ??? I'm still waiting for any qualification or life experience? Anything at all? Or is being a looser in life all you have to aspire to. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:57pm
Slowing down little troll?
Come on little troll tell us of your wonderful experience and qualifications that justify you belittling everbody on the forum? WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT? WHAT IS YOUR GREATEST LIFE EXPERIENCE? Anything will do little troll, Im barracking for you. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:57pm Valkie wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:51pm:
I don't want to make you despondent by making you realize how wretched your existence is. I don't have to hang around Centrelink like Valkie pleading for alms, bleating and whining. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:01pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 6:57pm:
Ok Prove it Troll Prove you have something more than your pathetic computer and trolling activities. PROVE YOU HAVE SOME QUALIFICATION, LIFE EXPERIENCE OR SKILL THAT MAKES YOU SUPERIOR TO ANYONE? |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:05pm Valkie wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:01pm:
You are already hooked. I don't need to waste bait. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:10pm Unforgiven wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:05pm:
STILL NOTHING FROM THE TROLL. YOU HAVE SADLY DISAPPOINTED ME. i ADMIT, I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT HAVE HAD AT LEAST ONE QUALIFICATION, ONE LIFE EXPERIENCE OR EVEN ONE TIDBIT ABOUT YOUR PATHETIC LIFE THAT COULD BE OF INTEREST TO US. OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE NOTHING. You bore me, Ive met your kind before. Too pathetic to stand up and fight like a man. Too pathetic to divulge anything about yourself in case someone used your tactics against you. Coward, pathetic little creepy troll. When you get the intestinal fortitude to actually say something of worth. I might just converse with you. until then EVERYONE, KNOW.......THE TROLL THAT IS UNFORESKIN IS A COWARD WHO HAS NO QUALIFICATIONS OR LIFE EXPERIENCE. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:14pm Valkie wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:10pm:
Valkie, you are hooked on your pathetic need to know more about me. Its a drug; its Valkie kryptonite. Get a life, don't try to borrow other people's lives. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Karnal on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:34pm
He's proven how superior he is to you, Forgiven.
He must be white. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 11th, 2016 at 9:00pm Mattyfisk wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
His fuzz is white: |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Karnal on Dec 11th, 2016 at 10:00pm
Then that's that. Valkie's a being from a higher source.
Read his posts, you'll see. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by The Grappler on Dec 12th, 2016 at 7:44am Unforgiven wrote on Dec 11th, 2016 at 12:14am:
Ah - so the solution is to feed the Banana Republicanism that will benefit ten people and their cronies while the rest just hang out on street corners, the dole office, under the bridges or - if they're lucky - on the beaches while attracting protected sharks? Why would countries that have played the long game and stock-piled raw materials suddenly buy again because the $Au has dropped? To stock-pile more and then cut off the market, thus gaining economic control by remote control over this country? Boom and bust.. boom and bust... and resources employ less than 1% of the workforce.... and resources tend to pay little to no tax and to off-shore the profits...... sounds more like permanent bust to me.... Truly, compadre, beeziness is good in El Grando Republico da San Austrador! As long as we can keep zee peasants poor and begging for a job in the banana fields.... |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 12th, 2016 at 10:07am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 7:44am:
Grappler, I regret to advise that your application to join MENSA was declined. You are woefully misinformed: http://theconversation.com/australias-five-pillar-economy-mining-40701 Quote:
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Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by The Grappler on Dec 12th, 2016 at 10:36am
The bananas are still growing - and the same things apply..... continuing more of the same will only yield the same result... and leaves an economy bereft of any back-ups....
What was the date on that article? I'm sure employment in the mining sector went down, and raising heaps of cattle and sheep for the Thirty Pieces of Silverside meat export industry benefits a very few. Here we are - from the horse's mouth - but 2014 - before the Downfall.... "Industry Outlook Mining Employment Mining value added accounts for 10.2 per cent of Australia’s Gross Domestic Product, making the Mining industry one of the most important in Australia. The high capital intensity of the industry means that the Mining industry directly employs only 267,700 workers, or 2.3 per cent of the total workforce." https://cica.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2014-Mining-Industry-Employment-Outlook1.pdf Plenty of fuzzy guesstimates about how mining does a heap for other industries etc.... but a one horse wagon is not enough to feed a country.... More good reading for you - read between the lines.... http://www.prepareforaustralia.com.au/employment-australia/industry-reports/mining-oil-gas.aspx |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Unforgiven on Dec 12th, 2016 at 10:57am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Dec 12th, 2016 at 10:36am:
The resources industry spends a lot of money in the Australian economy which benefits manufacturing, construction, and services. Resource industry employees also earn at least double the average wage in Australia and they spend that money. Without the resources industry Australian economy would have collapsed from GFC in 2009. |
Title: Re: Australian immigration hiding economic malaise Post by Valkie on Dec 13th, 2016 at 6:27am
We will need a lot more money to keep handing over all that welfare to the Muzzos who have several wives all living off the taxpayers..
Hopefully when they crack down on the welfare bludgers, who come here, have never worked, will never work, we might actually see some of them head off to a more profitable country where they have more to offer. Like Germany and France where they sick, twisted mates can kill all the infidels without having to worry about being harassed. But its not all bad news. Christian, Buddist, Jewish and other REAL religions and people who are HONEST and WORTHWHILE are still welcome to come here and contribute, work and become a part of Australian culture and diversity. These are the immigrants we need, not the ILLEGAL, country shoppers that only come to suck the country dry and be of no worth at all. |
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