Wait up a sec, someone told me it can't happen here.

Just heard a story on ABC radio that a help hotline is being swamped with calls regarding underage girls being sent overseas for marriage, one recently aged 9.

Link to come...

Brad Hazzard described it as 'a tsunami of child brides' going overseas to marry.

Mr Hazzard also says religious imams need to be involved in educating their local communities about the issue.

Reports of child bride problem in Sydney

A growing number of Sydney girls, some as young as nine, are reportedly being taken overseas and forced to become child brides.

More than 70 cases have been reported to the government-run child protection helpline over the past two years, the Daily Telegraph says.

Most of the tip-offs have come from teachers, counsellors and school principals.

NSW Family and Community Services Minister Brad Hazzard has told the paper the "barbaric and cruel" practice has prompted him to call on the federal government to take action.

Mr Hazzard also says religious imams need to be involved in educating their local communities about the issue.


http://www.skynews.com.au/news/national/nsw/2016/09/20/reports-of-child-bride-problem-in-sydney.html

its sickening isnt it.. so ,much for multiculturalism working..

this is obscene as far as I am concerned....and I hope the people involved are dealt with especially any MAN that would actually marry them....this is a disgrace to our culture.

It's the "religious Imams" who are promoting/pushing this issue.

Most of them are imported .... not home grown.

In reality they have probably been the biggest problem in radicalisation & fundamentalism in Islam in Australia

and the world.

cods wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 7:14am:

its sickening isnt it.. so ,much for multiculturalism working.. this is obscene as far as I am concerned....and I hope the people involved are dealt with especially any MAN that would actually marry them....this is a disgrace to our culture.

What do you think of people who purport to be very knowledgeable of these communities and state emphatically that it just doesn't happen and if it ever does its exceedingly rare, then go on to mock the person who posted a link about it?

Here's a good one from another post.

I kid you not, Gordon. We fleshed this one out for around 40 pages. It turned out the "Muslim child brides" were really small-town kids shacking up together.

FD will tell you. He’ll evade, of course, but you’re always free to ask.

Freeeeedom, innit.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1469708948/4#4

What the... It cannot be happening, Karnals hairdresser said it was illegal. 

Maybe that's why they go overseas? Cunning no?

Ladies and gentlemen let the apologism begin. 

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 7:43am:

What the... It cannot be happening, Karnals hairdresser said it was illegal.  Maybe that's why they go overseas? Cunning no? Ladies and gentlemen let the apologism begin.

When  I posted this link, Karnal repeatedly mocked me for claiming it's happening, and asking me to prove it, and throwing the line 'tip of the iceberg' back at me.

BTW Dr Eman Sharobeem, a former child bride is the foremost expert  in this area.

Dr Eman Sharobeem, the chief executive of the Immigrant Women's Health Services, said reported cases of underage marriages were "just the tip of the iceberg".

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/child-bride-19yearold-man-charged-over-wedding-to-15yearold-20150225-13oe3q.html

Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 7:57am:

Secret Wars wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 7:43am: What the... It cannot be happening, Karnals hairdresser said it was illegal.  Maybe that's why they go overseas? Cunning no? Ladies and gentlemen let the apologism begin.  When  I posted this link, Karnal repeatedly mocked me for claiming it's happening, and asking me to prove it, and throwing the line 'tip of the iceberg' back at me. BTW Dr Eman Sharobeem, a former child bride is the foremost expert  in this area. Dr Eman Sharobeem, the chief executive of the Immigrant Women's Health Services, said reported cases of underage marriages were "just the tip of the iceberg". http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/child-bride-19yearold-man-charged-over-wedding-to-15yearold-20150225-13oe3q.html

Karnal needs to spend less than 14 hours a day posting repetitive sound bites to a forum and step outside once in a while. 

Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 7:30am:

cods wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 7:14am: its sickening isnt it.. so ,much for multiculturalism working.. this is obscene as far as I am concerned....and I hope the people involved are dealt with especially any MAN that would actually marry them....this is a disgrace to our culture. What do you think of people who purport to be very knowledgeable of these communities and state emphatically that it just doesn't happen and if it ever does its exceedingly rare, then go on to mock the person who posted a link about it?

I do my best to "IGNORE" the ignorant gordy why give them the time of day and the pleasure in letting them know you even bother to read them

there are only a few on here who have not a thing to say only common rubbish they repeat over and over I mean there are just so many way you can say..

thooopid isnt there... ::) ::) ::) ::).. its a shame but nothing you can do to prevent.. thooopid from leaving his/her cage..

although I must admit it seems to be a male thing... maybe puberty does something to the brain and they never move on from their late engagement with it. :D :D :D.. they thought it would never happen so when it finally did they hung on.. ;D ;D ;D

Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 6:56am:

Wait up a sec, someone told me it can't happen here. Just heard a story on ABC radio that a help hotline is being swamped with calls regarding underage girls being sent overseas for marriage, one recently aged 9. Link to come...

Is Gordon buying or selling?

ABC..

'Tsunami' of young girls forced to marry overseas, NSW Government warns

School principals and teachers have reported girls as young as nine being taken overseas, where they are forced to marry, the New South Wales Government has said.

Family and Community Services (FACS) Minister Brad Hazzard said there have been around 70 cases of girls being forced to marry overseas reported to the FACS telephone hotline since July 2014.

"There is no doubt that there is a tsunami of young girls, some as young as nine, who are being taken overseas and being forced to become child brides," Mr Hazzard said.

"And quite simply the Baird Government is saying to those communities, 'this is Australia you are living in and you must acknowledge our laws and protect our children.'

"Many of these young children are ending up in our youth refuges in many parts of NSW."

Mr Hazzard said the Muslim community needed to be vocal opponents against the practice.

    The imams in the Muslim community need to speak up more and indeed any other religious leaders in communities who might pursue this practice," he said.

"Each of these young people, who are being threatened, are obviously at grave risk from their families if they do not comply.

"I have been advised some feel even suicidal if they are not living up to their parents' expectations."
Community 'silent' on arranged marriages

Muslims Australia president Keysar Trad said he is shocked by the reports.

"I know we have had a campaign for a long time to educate people that one of the conditions for a marriage to be valid under Islamic teachings is consent," Mr Trad said.

"For anybody to force a young lady or a young man into a marriage against their will is wrong."

However, Arif Nabizada, an Australian-Afghan community activist from the Hazara ethnic minority group, said the issue is not openly discussed.

    "A lot of things that happen in the community are quite silent," he said.

"I have not heard about any child brides to my knowledge, but what is of concern to me is the issue of arranged marriages, especially if they are forced.

"There are cases of conflict, where the 18-year-old girls are refusing to accept arranged marriages.

"I lot of people need more education to understand that forced marriages are illegal in Australia."

Mr Nabizada said there were other reasons besides cultural practice behind some arranged marriages.

"Sometimes families are trying to bring their relatives from overseas and that's because Afghanistan is one of the most dangerous places on the planet," he said.

    "By marrying their sons and daughters to a relative and bringing them to Australia, they are saving at least one life."

Teachers unaware of increase

NSW Secondary Principals Council president Chris Presland said he was not aware of a recent spike, but it was an issue that principals were aware of.

"Students and their teachers have close relationships, so anything at all affecting the welfare of the student would be reported," he said.

The Opposition's family and community services spokeswoman, Tanya Mihaluk, said the practice of child brides or forced marriage was abhorrent.

"Clearly there are concerned community members or teachers contacting FACS," she said.

"Mr Hazzard needs to intervene early in providing emergency care."

Mr Hazzard said a holistic approach was needed, with better coordination by the Commonwealth.

"I am asking the Federal Government to support the state governments and territories to try and find a solution."

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 12:44pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 6:56am: Wait up a sec, someone told me it can't happen here. Just heard a story on ABC radio that a help hotline is being swamped with calls regarding underage girls being sent overseas for marriage, one recently aged 9. Link to come... Is Gordon buying or selling?

Mods, your opinion on this reply please?

This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped.

I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake.

I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however.

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 1:44pm:

This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however.

Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D

Didn't read the article again Hammer?

It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia.

Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef?

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D So these girls getting married off are for residency reasons then. This is what is happening. The cretinous parents of these girls would be getting multiple thousands of dollars (dowry) to get these cretinous muslim fanatics into the country through the backdoor Mothradite. Didn't read the article again Hammer? It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia. Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef?

So these girls getting married off are for residency reasons then. This is what is happening. The cretinous parents of these girls would be getting multiple thousands of dollars (dowry) to get these cretinous muslim fanatics into the country through the backdoor Mothradite.

So you don't get tired of making a tit of yoursef then?

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:02pm:

So you don't get tired of making a tit of yoursef then?

Mothra- I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however


You wrote this only minutes ago. So you believe none of this has anything to do with residency?? I believe you are bloody well ignorantly severely misinformed.

:D

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:07pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:02pm: So you don't get tired of making a tit of yoursef then? Mothra- I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however You wrote this only minutes ago. So you believe none of this has anything to do with residency?? I believe you are bloody well ignorantly severely misinformed.

You don't follow the bouncing ball at all,  do you Hammer?

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 1:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D Didn't read the article again Hammer? It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia. Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef?

Two lines of this article are about marrying for visas.
Are you trying to sidetrack things?
Furthermore I doubt immigration would process a spousal application of underage girls??

Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:55pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D Didn't read the article again Hammer? It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia. Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef? Two lines of this article are about marrying for visas. Are you trying to sidetrack things? Furthermore I doubt immigration would process a spousal application of underage girls??

I already said that Gordy.

Jesus.

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:09pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:07pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:02pm: So you don't get tired of making a tit of yoursef then? Mothra- I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however You wrote this only minutes ago. So you believe none of this has anything to do with residency?? I believe you are bloody well ignorantly severely misinformed. You don't follow the bouncing ball at all,  do you Hammer?

You are an absolute nitwit Mothra. They line the marriage up with the otherseas visit. Some girls stay  overseas and some come back here. The marriage takes place when she's legal and he gets a spousal visa while the family and wife get a large dowry (mahr). What's so unbelievable about that. It's tribal, cultural, family, religous, economic and for recidency issues.

Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:10pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:55pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D Didn't read the article again Hammer? It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia. Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef? Two lines of this article are about marrying for visas. Are you trying to sidetrack things? Furthermore I doubt immigration would process a spousal application of underage girls??

I already said that Gordy.

Jesus!   :o

;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:14pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:09pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:07pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:02pm: So you don't get tired of making a tit of yoursef then? Mothra- I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however You wrote this only minutes ago. So you believe none of this has anything to do with residency?? I believe you are bloody well ignorantly severely misinformed. You don't follow the bouncing ball at all,  do you Hammer? You are an absolute nitwit Mothra. They line the marriage up with the otherseas visit. Some girls stay  overseas and some come back here. The marriage takes place when she's legal and he gets a spousal visa while the family and wife get a large dowry (mahr). What's so unbelievable about that. It's tribal, cultural, family, religous, economic and for recidency issues.

Good grief!   :o

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:10pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:55pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D Didn't read the article again Hammer? It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia. Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef? Two lines of this article are about marrying for visas. Are you trying to sidetrack things? Furthermore I doubt immigration would process a spousal application of underage girls?? I already said that Gordy. Jesus!   :o

So why did you write that this has nothing to do with residency??

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:10pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:55pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D Didn't read the article again Hammer? It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia. Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef? Two lines of this article are about marrying for visas. Are you trying to sidetrack things? Furthermore I doubt immigration would process a spousal application of underage girls?? I already said that Gordy. Jesus!   :o So why did you write that this has nothing to do with residency??

I didn't .

Spotted the ball yet?

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:12pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:10pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:55pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D Didn't read the article again Hammer? It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia. Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef? Two lines of this article are about marrying for visas. Are you trying to sidetrack things? Furthermore I doubt immigration would process a spousal application of underage girls?? I already said that Gordy. Jesus.

Excellent we can move forward.

Mr Trad said he was surprised.  Do you find it surprising that the founder of the Lebanese Muslim friendship society,  personal assistant of the former Grand Mufti and 30 year career muslim would be surprised about such things?

@

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:23pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:21pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:10pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:55pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D Didn't read the article again Hammer? It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia. Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef? Two lines of this article are about marrying for visas. Are you trying to sidetrack things? Furthermore I doubt immigration would process a spousal application of underage girls?? I already said that Gordy. Jesus!   :o So why did you write that this has nothing to do with residency?? I didn't . Spotted the ball yet?

Yes you did.

You- I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however.

No.  Why should i be surprised that he doesn't know of the personal arrangements of everyone in the community?

Do you expect Indian leaders to know details of all of the arranged marriages that happen within their community?

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:28pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:23pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:21pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:10pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:55pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:49pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 1:44pm: This is a disgusting practice and needs as much coercion through community and official channels to be stopped. I would be intersted to see the breakdown of how many young girls are married off for barbaric arrangement and how many for residency reasons.   Not that that makes it ok,  just that marriage to bring someone here away from a war torn country is far less morally and ethically challenging than marriage for pure arrangements sake. I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however. Recidency is nothing to do with it????? ;D ;D Didn't read the article again Hammer? It clearly states (not that you shouldn't be able to work this out for yoursef) that marriages are being arranged to get future spouses out of troubled countries and settled in Australia. Don't you ever tire of making a tit of yoursef? Two lines of this article are about marrying for visas. Are you trying to sidetrack things? Furthermore I doubt immigration would process a spousal application of underage girls?? I already said that Gordy. Jesus!   :o So why did you write that this has nothing to do with residency?? I didn't . Spotted the ball yet? Yes you did. You- I doubt the poor girls married off underage are for residency reasons however.

For crying out loud Hammer.  Concentrate.

Do you think a marriage between a 9 year old and a grown Afghani would confer him with a VISA to live in Australia?

Think really hard now.

Article- some as young as nine. Most would be legal teenagers Mothra.

You didn't read the article.

:D

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:48pm:

Article- some as young as nine. Most would be legal teenagers Mothra. You didn't read the article.

Bit early in the day to be drinking isn't it?

Go back and read again what i posted.  I grow weary of arguing against stuff i never said or conversely repeating stuff i alread said.

I think you should reread the whole topic actually.

...when tou sober up,  that is.

This is for Mothra- ABC- Mr Nabizada said there were other reasons besides cultural practice behind some arranged marriages.

"Sometimes families are trying to bring their relatives from overseas and that's because Afghanistan is one of the most dangerous places on the planet," he said.

    "By marrying their sons and daughters to a relative and bringing them to Australia, they are saving at least one life."

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 3:04pm:

This is for Mothra- ABC- Mr Nabizada said there were other reasons besides cultural practice behind some arranged marriages. "Sometimes families are trying to bring their relatives from overseas and that's because Afghanistan is one of the most dangerous places on the planet," he said.     "By marrying their sons and daughters to a relative and bringing them to Australia, they are saving at least one life."

Sometimes you can shake 1000 trees in front of someone and they still will argue there isnt a forest.

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:31pm:

No.  Why should i be surprised that he doesn't know of the personal arrangements of everyone in the community? Do you expect Indian leaders to know details of all of the arranged marriages that happen within their community?

I wasn't asking abouts any random leader, I was asking about Mr Trad.  Do you know much about him?

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 3:04pm:

This is for Mothra- ABC- Mr Nabizada said there were other reasons besides cultural practice behind some arranged marriages. "Sometimes families are trying to bring their relatives from overseas and that's because Afghanistan is one of the most dangerous places on the planet," he said.     "By marrying their sons and daughters to a relative and bringing them to Australia, they are saving at least one life."

Yes yes.  I've already said that several times.

Christ on a stick!

Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 3:17pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:31pm: No.  Why should i be surprised that he doesn't know of the personal arrangements of everyone in the community? Do you expect Indian leaders to know details of all of the arranged marriages that happen within their community? I wasn't asking abouts any random leader, I was asking about Mr Trad.  Do you know much about him?

Why is he any different?

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 3:27pm:

Gordon wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 3:17pm: mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:31pm: No.  Why should i be surprised that he doesn't know of the personal arrangements of everyone in the community? Do you expect Indian leaders to know details of all of the arranged marriages that happen within their community? I wasn't asking abouts any random leader, I was asking about Mr Trad.  Do you know much about him? Why is he any different?

If you knew anything about him you wouldn't be surprised if he was found arranging underage marriages.

We really have to be more tolerant...after all we are the most successful multicultural nation in the world, and that is built on tolerance, assimilation and mutual respect.... (according to Turdbull)
We just have to assimilate better with our muslim brothers...
....pft....

Keysar Trad is a piece of work.   Claims to be the pulse of the Muslim community and has no idea regarding the extent of forced marriages?  Yeah yeah give me a break.    ::)

I had to smile when he lost his defamation case against 2GB.  It cost 2GB over $4 million but they refused to give in out of principle.

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:55pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:48pm: Article- some as young as nine. Most would be legal teenagers Mothra. You didn't read the article. Bit early in the day to be drinking isn't it? Go back and read again what i posted.  I grow weary of arguing against stuff i never said or conversely repeating stuff i alread said. I think you should reread the whole topic actually. ...when tou sober up,  that is.

a good sign you are losing the argument mothra...what makes you think he is drinking........when he can also accuse you of the same thing..

you beg to differ.. dont slander someones good name because you cant get them to agree with you.. >:( >:(

cods wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 5:12pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:55pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:48pm: Article- some as young as nine. Most would be legal teenagers Mothra. You didn't read the article. Bit early in the day to be drinking isn't it? Go back and read again what i posted.  I grow weary of arguing against stuff i never said or conversely repeating stuff i alread said. I think you should reread the whole topic actually. ...when tou sober up,  that is. a good sign you are losing the argument mothra...what makes you think he is drinking........when he can also accuse you of the same thing.. you beg to differ.. dont slander someones good name because you cant get them to agree with you.. >:( >:(

The alternative to him being drunl is far less flattering Cods.

I was cutting him some slack.

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 5:21pm:

The alternative to him being drunl is far less flattering Cods. I was cutting him some slack

you do yourself a disservice..imo

cods wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 5:26pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 5:21pm: The alternative to him being drunl is far less flattering Cods. I was cutting him some slack you do yourself a disservice..imo

Not really, given Mr Hammer is one of the worst offenders when it comes to abusing people.  He even boasts about it, and offers the defence that 'they deserve it.'


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I agree except when dealing wigh scum like Pecker, Unforsaken, Aussie, John Smith. Then i give them what they deserve.

Aussie wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

Not really, given Mr Hammer is one of the worst offenders when it comes to abusing people.  He even boasts about it, and offers the defence that 'they deserve it.'

and ..................

Neferti wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 5:34pm: Not really, given Mr Hammer is one of the worst offenders when it comes to abusing people.  He even boasts about it, and offers the defence that 'they deserve it.' and ..................

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Gordon wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 3:17pm:

mothra wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 2:31pm: No.  Why should i be surprised that he doesn't know of the personal arrangements of everyone in the community? Do you expect Indian leaders to know details of all of the arranged marriages that happen within their community? I wasn't asking abouts any random leader, I was asking about Mr Trad.  Do you know much about him?

Enough ... he's a lying manipulating grub.

He's all for pushing the Muslim/Sharia law values including polygamy for Muslim men only.

I would bet he's right behind this child bride shyte.

 

mothra wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 2:31pm:

No.  Why should i be surprised that he doesn't know of the personal arrangements of everyone in the community? Do you expect Indian leaders to know details of all of the arranged marriages that happen within their community?

No but the arranged marriages in the Indian community don't involve 9 yr olds.

Unforgiven wrote on Sep 20^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Neferti wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 6:34pm: Aussie wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 5:34pm: Not really, given Mr Hammer is one of the worst offenders when it comes to abusing people.  He even boasts about it, and offers the defence that 'they deserve it.' and .................. ?

Worst offenders??? ;D ;D ;D ;D I hardly think so.

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