Jacqui Lambie secures six-year position in Canberra   :)
The Mercury
August 14, 2016

TASMANIAN senator Jacqui Lambie will occupy her seat in Canberra for the next six years after a deal was struck to determine who will go full-term and who must return to the polls in three years.   :)

The Coalition and Labor, which have a combined majority in the Senate have agreed to stick to convention, meaning the first six senators elected in the recent poll will get six-year terms.


Under the deal, Tasmanian Liberal senators Eric Abetz and Stephen Parry, Labor senators Anne Urquhart and Helen Polley and Greens senator Peter-Wilson will not go to the polls for another six years.

Senator Lambie said despite much talk about three and six-year terms, the process was simple.

“Tradition, precedent, conventions and section 13 of the Australian Constitution lay out the rules and guidelines, which give clear direction to the Senate when it is time to make a decision,” she said.

“So if the Senate follows tradition, precedent and section 13 of the Australian Constitution — I will be allocated a six-year term.”

The new-look Senate will mean Labor senator Lisa Singh will have to go to the polls in three years with Labor’s Left-faction powerbroker Carol Brown and Right-aligned Catryna Bilyk.

Newcomer Liberal senator Jonathon Duniam and his colleague Liberal senator David Bushby will have to recontest in three years as will the only newcomer senator from Tasmania, Jonathon Duniam.

Former Tasmanian Greens leader Nick McKim, who was the last senator to gain a seat, will also be back in campaign mode in three years.

Well done Senator Jacqui Lambie.  Good to see you will be back in the senate, for six years.   [smiley=thumbsup.gif] 

so they make more deals.. and that all good for the country.... I get it. :(

We don't want the senate to become a rubber stamp, for either a labor or a liberal government.   :)   

wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 7:36am:

Well done Senator Jacqui Lambie.  Good to see you will be back in the senate, for six years.   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

I agree -she is doing a hell of a lot for veteran's welfare.   About time some pollie did!

Well done J  :)

Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators.

They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive.

____ wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 9:06am:

Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive.

I reckon that is a certainty!

Pauline will try to be the standover boss and they will rebel!

Labor and the Coalition have renegged on a change to the electoral act and two resolutions since then to use the new fairer method of allocating 6 year terms. Instead they have chosen once again to vote to give themselves more six year terms and screw over the other parties. They have tried to pass this off as the will of the people.

I encourage everyone to write to their local federal MP and complain about this.

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:32am:

Labor and the Coalition have renegged on a change to the electoral act and two resolutions since then to use the new fairer method of allocating 6 year terms. Instead they have chosen once again to vote to give themselves more six year terms and screw over the other parties. They have tried to pass this off as the will of the people. I encourage everyone to write to their local federal MP and complain about this.

I agree, and I will be complaining about it.

I'm having lunch with Senator Glenn Sterle today and I'll be discussing this with him, and the other politicians who'll be there.

(When I say "lunch", it's a community event to introduce a candidate for the upcoming state election - i.e. sausage sizzle and a stubbie of Carlton Mid).

Glenn's a decent bloke, and I'll be interested in hearing what he has to say.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:41am:

freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:32am: Labor and the Coalition have renegged on a change to the electoral act and two resolutions since then to use the new fairer method of allocating 6 year terms. Instead they have chosen once again to vote to give themselves more six year terms and screw over the other parties. They have tried to pass this off as the will of the people. I encourage everyone to write to their local federal MP and complain about this. I agree, and I will be complaining about it. I'm having lunch with Senator Glenn Sterle today and I'll be discussing this with him, and the other politicians who'll be there. (When I say "lunch", it's a community event to introduce a candidate for the upcoming state election - i.e. sausage sizzle and a stubbie of Carlton Mid). Glenn's a decent bloke, and I'll be interested in hearing what he has to say.

::) ::)

cods wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:42am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:41am: freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:32am: Labor and the Coalition have renegged on a change to the electoral act and two resolutions since then to use the new fairer method of allocating 6 year terms. Instead they have chosen once again to vote to give themselves more six year terms and screw over the other parties. They have tried to pass this off as the will of the people. I encourage everyone to write to their local federal MP and complain about this. I agree, and I will be complaining about it. I'm having lunch with Senator Glenn Sterle today and I'll be discussing this with him, and the other politicians who'll be there. (When I say "lunch", it's a community event to introduce a candidate for the upcoming state election - i.e. sausage sizzle and a stubbie of Carlton Mid). Glenn's a decent bloke, and I'll be interested in hearing what he has to say. ::) ::)

Are you happy with the Senate, cods?

Redmond Neck wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:27am:

____ wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:06am: Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive. I reckon that is a certainty! Pauline will try to be the standover boss and they will rebel!

if they go in on someone elses coat tails  they should be made to resign if they log off just because it suits them..

for all we know this will become a HABIT and a damn sneaky way of getting elected for 6 bloody years...

its wrong.. >:( >:( >:(

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:43am:

cods wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:42am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:41am: freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:32am: Labor and the Coalition have renegged on a change to the electoral act and two resolutions since then to use the new fairer method of allocating 6 year terms. Instead they have chosen once again to vote to give themselves more six year terms and screw over the other parties. They have tried to pass this off as the will of the people. I encourage everyone to write to their local federal MP and complain about this. I agree, and I will be complaining about it. I'm having lunch with Senator Glenn Sterle today and I'll be discussing this with him, and the other politicians who'll be there. (When I say "lunch", it's a community event to introduce a candidate for the upcoming state election - i.e. sausage sizzle and a stubbie of Carlton Mid). Glenn's a decent bloke, and I'll be interested in hearing what he has to say. ::) ::) Are you happy with the Senate, cods?

I dont think so.....it seems to have turned into more that it was intended to do.. we now have people joining a group aka PUP.. not liking what got them in to the senate dropping out.. and making a career out of it...

I dont agree with that....you join something you stay with it until the end.....its not about YOU its about our country..

but it seems to me its turning into  a ME camp... and n o I dont like it...

cods wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:43am: cods wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:42am: greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:41am: freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:32am: Labor and the Coalition have renegged on a change to the electoral act and two resolutions since then to use the new fairer method of allocating 6 year terms. Instead they have chosen once again to vote to give themselves more six year terms and screw over the other parties. They have tried to pass this off as the will of the people. I encourage everyone to write to their local federal MP and complain about this. I agree, and I will be complaining about it. I'm having lunch with Senator Glenn Sterle today and I'll be discussing this with him, and the other politicians who'll be there. (When I say "lunch", it's a community event to introduce a candidate for the upcoming state election - i.e. sausage sizzle and a stubbie of Carlton Mid). Glenn's a decent bloke, and I'll be interested in hearing what he has to say. ::) ::) Are you happy with the Senate, cods? I dont think so.....it seems to have turned into more that it was intended to do.. we now have people joining a group aka PUP.. not liking what got them in to the senate dropping out.. and making a career out of it... I dont agree with that....you join something you stay with it until the end.....its not about YOU its about our country.. but it seems to me its turning into  a ME camp... and n o I dont like it...

I agree, and I'll be letting Glenn know that today.

I'll even pass on your comments (if you like).

wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 7:36am:

Well done Senator Jacqui Lambie.  Good to see you will be back in the senate, for six years.   [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

It looks like Jacqie Lambie is in politics just for herself, and would be well described by this comment from the late Professor Marshall:

This is an extract from a book by S Encel:Equality and Authority a Study of Class, Status and Power in Australia.

Similar feelings are expressed more pungently in the writings of the late scientist and publicist, Professor A.J.Marshal.
Most Australian politicians, he wrote, aspire to parliamentary seats ‘to better their salary, to inflate their egos and to feather their nests.’ We have incompetent and ignorant cabinet ministers because ‘push and talk’ will do the trick. ‘A tram-guard may become a National Park trustee, a giggling bush doctor may be placed in complete charge of the finances of the nation. A few years ago a museum of scientific specialists found themselves under the jurisdiction of an ex-coalminer.’ But the only explanation he can give for the failure of the public who suffer under these incompetents to choose better people is the familiar tautology that they are ‘conditioned to second-rate political representation’.

Well, our constitution placed no barriers to election, such as intelligence, education, experience etc.
So we do end up with Lambies and so forth.

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:32am:

Labor and the Coalition have renegged on a change to the electoral act and two resolutions since then to use the new fairer method of allocating 6 year terms. Instead they have chosen once again to vote to give themselves more six year terms and screw over the other parties. They have tried to pass this off as the will of the people. I encourage everyone to write to their local federal MP and complain about this.

I posted a quantitative analysis in another thread where I showed that the recount method in section 282 of the Electoral Act produced a fairer outcome. The recount method produced a split for the Coalition 15-13, ALP 12-12, the Greens 4-5 and Hinch 1-0 (the first number is the number of 6-year terms). The results for the first-elected method were Coalition 16-12, ALP 13-11, the Greens 3-6 and Hinch 0-1. So the Coalition and ALP have given themselves one additional long-term Senator at the expense of the Greens and Hinch.

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 12:10pm:

Well, our constitution placed no barriers to election, such as intelligence, education, experience etc. So we do end up with Lambies and ...

... four One Nation senators.

Bam wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 1:25pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:32am: Labor and the Coalition have renegged on a change to the electoral act and two resolutions since then to use the new fairer method of allocating 6 year terms. Instead they have chosen once again to vote to give themselves more six year terms and screw over the other parties. They have tried to pass this off as the will of the people. I encourage everyone to write to their local federal MP and complain about this. I posted a quantitative analysis in another thread where I showed that the recount method in section 282 of the Electoral Act produced a fairer outcome. The recount method produced a split for the Coalition 15-13, ALP 12-12, the Greens 4-5 and Hinch 1-0 (the first number is the number of 6-year terms). The results for the first-elected method were Coalition 16-12, ALP 13-11, the Greens 3-6 and Hinch 0-1. So the Coalition and ALP have given themselves one additional long-term Senator at the expense of the Greens and Hinch.

Thanks Bam and Greg. This is what I have sent in via email:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1468844101/14#14

Where is the original Bam?

____ wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 9:06am:

Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive.

Why on earth would they want to join her? Her party, which she predicted would win many seats, garnered a paltry 69000 votes across the country and only one seat (her own), meanwhile One Nation garnered 593000 votes and four seats. I think that they know on which side their bread is buttered.

Redmond Neck wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 10:27am:

____ wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:06am: Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive. I reckon that is a certainty! Pauline will try to be the standover boss and they will rebel!

Yes because the JLN did so well.

Bam wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 1:28pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 12:10pm: Well, our constitution placed no barriers to election, such as intelligence, education, experience etc. So we do end up with Lambies and ... ... four One Nation senators.

That is fancy footwork but it is also unethical.
Altering someone else's post, which is what you just did, albeit minor and an attempt at humour, is not something I would do.

Whatever happened to that Greenies abomination SHY ?

freediver wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 2:24pm:

Bam wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 1:25pm: freediver wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 10:32am: Labor and the Coalition have renegged on a change to the electoral act and two resolutions since then to use the new fairer method of allocating 6 year terms. Instead they have chosen once again to vote to give themselves more six year terms and screw over the other parties. They have tried to pass this off as the will of the people. I encourage everyone to write to their local federal MP and complain about this. I posted a quantitative analysis in another thread where I showed that the recount method in section 282 of the Electoral Act produced a fairer outcome. The recount method produced a split for the Coalition 15-13, ALP 12-12, the Greens 4-5 and Hinch 1-0 (the first number is the number of 6-year terms). The results for the first-elected method were Coalition 16-12, ALP 13-11, the Greens 3-6 and Hinch 0-1. So the Coalition and ALP have given themselves one additional long-term Senator at the expense of the Greens and Hinch. Thanks Bam and Greg. This is what I have sent in via email: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1468844101/14#14 Where is the original Bam?

Here it is.

matty wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

____ wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:06am: Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive. Why on earth would they want to join her? Her party, which she predicted would win many seats, garnered a paltry 69000 votes across the country and only one seat (her own), meanwhile One Nation garnered 593000 votes and four seats. I think that they know on which side their bread is buttered.

That is a misleading comparison.

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 3:07pm:

Bam wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 1:28pm: bogarde73 wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 12:10pm: Well, our constitution placed no barriers to election, such as intelligence, education, experience etc. So we do end up with Lambies and ... ... four One Nation senators. That is fancy footwork but it is also unethical. Altering someone else's post, which is what you just did, albeit minor and an attempt at humour, is not something I would do.

I have no idea why you're complaining here. Inserting an ellipsis is hardly the stuff of complaints, considering that I have seen many, many worse modifications done to quoted posts that you have never complained about. You're just sore because you don't like having pointed out that the One Nation nutters you support are from the shallow end of the intelligence pool. Get over it, they are not the sharpest tools in the political shed and the ones on three-year terms will not be re-elected. Six years of Hanson and Queensland will prefer someone else. Maybe someone from a more sensible conservative party, a third LNP Senator perhaps, or even KAP.

Only if the coalition adopts some of her policies.

Bam wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 5:58pm:

matty wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:03pm: ____ wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:06am: Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive. Why on earth would they want to join her? Her party, which she predicted would win many seats, garnered a paltry 69000 votes across the country and only one seat (her own), meanwhile One Nation garnered 593000 votes and four seats. I think that they know on which side their bread is buttered. That is a misleading comparison.

How so?

____ wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 9:06am:

Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive.

Exactly the same for the non antisemite greens, who can do away with their ludicrous party.  Good point!

sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 7:46pm:

____ wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:06am: Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive. Exactly the same for the non antisemite greens, who can do away with their ludicrous party.  Good point!

Which greens are non antisemite?

matty wrote on Aug 14^th, 2016 at 7:33pm:

Bam wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 5:58pm: matty wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:03pm: ____ wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:06am: Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive. Why on earth would they want to join her? Her party, which she predicted would win many seats, garnered a paltry 69000 votes across the country and only one seat (her own), meanwhile One Nation garnered 593000 votes and four seats. I think that they know on which side their bread is buttered. That is a misleading comparison. How so?

The quotas for election in Tasmania are a lot lower. Lambie made a quota, whereas three of the four One Nation Senators did not. It doesn't matter whether the s282 recount method was used or the order of election method was used. She was going to get a six-year term no matter what.

Bam wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 10:21am:

matty wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 7:33pm: Bam wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 5:58pm: matty wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:03pm: ____ wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:06am: Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive. Why on earth would they want to join her? Her party, which she predicted would win many seats, garnered a paltry 69000 votes across the country and only one seat (her own), meanwhile One Nation garnered 593000 votes and four seats. I think that they know on which side their bread is buttered. That is a misleading comparison. How so? The quotas for election in Tasmania are a lot lower. Lambie made a quota, whereas three of the four One Nation Senators did not. It doesn't matter whether the s282 recount method was used or the order of election method was used. She was going to get a six-year term no matter what.

What does that have to do with what I said though? My point was that One Nation received hundreds of thousands more votes than the JLN did.

matty wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 12:31pm:

Bam wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 10:21am: matty wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 7:33pm: Bam wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 5:58pm: matty wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:03pm: ____ wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:06am: Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive. Why on earth would they want to join her? Her party, which she predicted would win many seats, garnered a paltry 69000 votes across the country and only one seat (her own), meanwhile One Nation garnered 593000 votes and four seats. I think that they know on which side their bread is buttered. That is a misleading comparison. How so? The quotas for election in Tasmania are a lot lower. Lambie made a quota, whereas three of the four One Nation Senators did not. It doesn't matter whether the s282 recount method was used or the order of election method was used. She was going to get a six-year term no matter what. What does that have to do with what I said though? My point was that One Nation received hundreds of thousands more votes than the JLN did.

If you cannot understand how Senate voting works, you should not be posting.

Bam wrote on Aug 15^th, 2016 at 1:11pm:

matty wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:31pm: Bam wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 10:21am: matty wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 7:33pm: Bam wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 5:58pm: matty wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 3:03pm: ____ wrote on Aug 14th, 2016 at 9:06am: Jacqui is a shining light for current One Nation Party Senators. They can divorce Pauline and become independents ... just like Jacqui divorced Clive. Why on earth would they want to join her? Her party, which she predicted would win many seats, garnered a paltry 69000 votes across the country and only one seat (her own), meanwhile One Nation garnered 593000 votes and four seats. I think that they know on which side their bread is buttered. That is a misleading comparison. How so? The quotas for election in Tasmania are a lot lower. Lambie made a quota, whereas three of the four One Nation Senators did not. It doesn't matter whether the s282 recount method was used or the order of election method was used. She was going to get a six-year term no matter what. What does that have to do with what I said though? My point was that One Nation received hundreds of thousands more votes than the JLN did. If you cannot understand how Senate voting works, you should not be posting.

I understand fully well how it works but that had nothing to do with what I posted. I was pointing out to others that One Nation received hundreds of thousands more votes than the JLN. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't blame me if you don't have basic comprehension skills.