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Quote: "Top shearer called in to trim overgrown sheep found in Australia".

Quote: "RSPCA’s plea for expert to urgently remove wool from sheep rescued near Canberra is answered by champion shearer Ian Elkins".

Then we look at a different newspaper reporting this same story, and scroll down to see the poor bloody sheep has been mutilated and cut raw due to this 'champion's' incompetence.

What makes a 'champion' shearer is speed far more than a painless haircut for the sheep. 

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'Top shearer' .... 'expert' ... what a load of bullshit.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 11:37am:

link Quote: "Top shearer called in to trim overgrown sheep found in Australia". Quote: "RSPCA’s plea for expert to urgently remove wool from sheep rescued near Canberra is answered by champion shearer Ian Elkins". Then we look at a different newspaper reporting this same story, and scroll down to see the poor bloody sheep has been mutilated and cut raw due to this 'champion's' incompetence. What makes a 'champion' shearer is speed far more than a painless haircut for the sheep.  link 'Top shearer' .... 'expert' ... what a load of bullshit.

Not really herb. Considering that the sheep was basically feral, and they had to sedate it just to touch it, it would have been kicking and struggling a whole lot more than a normal sheep. Add that to the problem that the fleece was tangled and matted, so a few cuts wouldn't be a sign of 'incompetence' at all.

The ABC are biased, Herbie.

They're trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 11:51am:

Not really herb. Considering that the sheep was basically feral, and they had to sedate it just to touch it, it would have been kicking and struggling a whole lot more than a normal sheep. Add that to the problem that the fleece was tangled and matted, so a few cuts wouldn't be a sign of 'incompetence' at all.

If it's been sedated with a vet's dart then all the more reason this 'champion' should have done a better job.

There are routine ways of immobilising skittish sheep with a little twine or a ratchet-strap that this shearer didn't bother with so it would look better for him in front of the cameras.

I hope his barber is taking note.

Those wounds must hurt like hell.

And as you can see in the photo, there were others there to help keep this sedated sheep even more still if required.

Big 'fail'.

The RSPCA hired him .... and now they can FIRE him.

 

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 12:07pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 11:51am: Not really herb. Considering that the sheep was basically feral, and they had to sedate it just to touch it, it would have been kicking and struggling a whole lot more than a normal sheep. Add that to the problem that the fleece was tangled and matted, so a few cuts wouldn't be a sign of 'incompetence' at all. If it's been sedated with a vet's dart then all the more reason this 'champion' should have done a better job. There are routine ways of immobilising skittish sheep with a little twine or a ratchet-strap that this shearer didn't bother with so it would look better for him in front of the cameras. I hope his barber is taking note. Those wounds must hurt like hell. And as you can see in the photo, there were others there to help keep this sedated sheep even more still if required. Big 'fail'. The RSPCA hired him .... and now they can FIRE him.

It wasn't a 'skittish' sheep...it hadn't had any human contact for years.....it was a full on feral, actually I'm surprised it lived that long  with that much wool.

And from the 2nd link you posted:
"There were parts of the sheep where we had to cut it in different layers because the problem for me shearing it was the weight of the fleece was pulling on the skin and we wanted to keep the skin cuts to a minimum."

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 1:52pm:

It wasn't a 'skittish' sheep...it hadn't had any human contact for years.....it was a full on feral, actually I'm surprised it lived that long  with that much wool.

You're going to fight me all the way to the cliff-top on this one, aren't you gizmo?

It was .... tranquilised.

How hard can it be for a champion shearer to clip the wool off a chemically paralysed sheep without ripping into it like a mad Chinaman's meat-axe?

;D ;D ;D

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 1:52pm:

And from the 2nd link you posted: "There were parts of the sheep where we had to cut it in different layers because the problem for me shearing it was the weight of the fleece was pulling on the skin and we wanted to keep the skin cuts to a minimum."

What utter bullshit.

He had a team of men there to take care of anything that needed doing beside actually clipping the fur.

This arsehole embarrased himself and the RSPCA who hired him - and now they're making excuses that deny even the most basic commonsense.

I'm putting this to a poll.

I've said it before. These so-called 'champion shearers' are all about the number of sheep they can grab, shear - and shove into the yard within a given time.

They don't get penalty deductions for cutting into them.

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Cant see any cuts on the sheepie, lots of pink antiseptic though.

what seems to be the problem here.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 2:07pm:

I'm putting this to a poll.

I voted for Herbert.

I can't believe I just said that.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 12:07pm:

There are routine ways of immobilising skittish sheep with a little twine or a ratchet-strap.

Some of the Kiwis I know, use gum boots and a fan belt.


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Herb, are you a shearer...cause if you are you're way off track...and if you're not, you are still way off track.

First off there are no cuts, definitely some inflamed and baldish skin patches from tension alopecia...you know that thing that generally happens to sheep if not shorn once a year. Also if a sheep gets cut, they really bleed...the wool would be soaked around each cut if there were any.

Plus look how much wool length was left after shearing...the hand piece comb got nowhere near the skin.

No foul, play on I say.


P.S I grew up on a sheep station, have shorn more sheep than I want to remember...and unfortunately cut a few too :( :( :(

Herb is a troll, is that a type of shearer?

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 4:35pm:

Herb is a troll, is that a type of shearer?

Herb might be a troll but Gregpeccary has Kiwi friends that use rubber boots and fan belts on him.

fezz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 4:25pm:

Herb, are you a shearer...cause if you are you're way off track...and if you're not, you are still way off track. First off there are no cuts, definitely some inflamed and baldish skin patches from tension alopecia...you know that thing that generally happens to sheep if not shorn once a year. Also if a sheep gets cut, they really bleed...the wool would be soaked around each cut if there were any. Plus look how much wool length was left after shearing...the hand piece comb got nowhere near the skin. No foul, play on I say. P.S I grew up on a sheep station, have shorn more sheep than I want to remember...and unfortunately cut a few too :( :( :(

Good stuff, Fez. I believe you.

Therefore I'm folding my cards and conceding the poll to Gizmo.

How do you feel about mulesing?

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Steampipe wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 4:42pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 4:35pm: Herb is a troll, is that a type of shearer? Herb might be a troll but Gregpeccary has Kiwi friends that use rubber boots and fan belts on him.

I wouldn't call them 'friends'.

I saw him on the news and thought what a handsome beast.....amazing...he lived in Canberra....

all that lamb..

well I guess hes like me now well and truly past our use by date..... but still a handsome dude I hope he finds a nice happy agedcare sheep home..

and well done to the shearer a mighty job..40kilos of wool... without the meat and bones...Id want him sedated as well. ::) ::) ::)

what would happen if the Humans weren't here to shear the sheep???  :-/

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 7:11pm:

what would happen if the Humans weren't here to shear the sheep???  :-/

He would have died, eventually.

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 7:11pm:

what would happen if the Humans weren't here to shear the sheep???  :-/

They've evolved over time, in response to the way we shear them.

Plus, humans have selectively breed them to stop them from moulting.

If humans never existed, they would have been different creatures.

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 6:38pm:

fezz wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 4:25pm: Herb, are you a shearer...cause if you are you're way off track...and if you're not, you are still way off track. First off there are no cuts, definitely some inflamed and baldish skin patches from tension alopecia...you know that thing that generally happens to sheep if not shorn once a year. Also if a sheep gets cut, they really bleed...the wool would be soaked around each cut if there were any. Plus look how much wool length was left after shearing...the hand piece comb got nowhere near the skin. No foul, play on I say. P.S I grew up on a sheep station, have shorn more sheep than I want to remember...and unfortunately cut a few too :( :( :( Good stuff, Fez. I believe you. Therefore I'm folding my cards and conceding the poll to Gizmo. How do you feel about mulesing? link

Don't agree with it...the cost vs benefit argument goes for mulesing as it's a once only affair, no yearly crutch necessary but my family always choose crutching over mulesing. Definately ups the yearly $$$ but it's a cost we prefer to carry. The sheep sure don't enjoy a good mulesing, I'd like to see a human with his legs up in stirrups, ready to lose some inner thigh skin to a hot shear...imagine the uproar.

Ringing for castration and tails leave the lambs with some discomfort for a while but no where the same brutal league as mulesing.

Also no cutting or mistreating sheep whilst in our shearing sheds, that's arse kicking material straight to the front gate.


42kg fleece...what a bloody ripper.

fezz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 7:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 6:38pm: fezz wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 4:25pm: Herb, are you a shearer...cause if you are you're way off track...and if you're not, you are still way off track. First off there are no cuts, definitely some inflamed and baldish skin patches from tension alopecia...you know that thing that generally happens to sheep if not shorn once a year. Also if a sheep gets cut, they really bleed...the wool would be soaked around each cut if there were any. Plus look how much wool length was left after shearing...the hand piece comb got nowhere near the skin. No foul, play on I say. P.S I grew up on a sheep station, have shorn more sheep than I want to remember...and unfortunately cut a few too :( :( :( Good stuff, Fez. I believe you. Therefore I'm folding my cards and conceding the poll to Gizmo. How do you feel about mulesing? link Don't agree with it...the cost vs benefit argument goes for mulesing as it's a once only affair, no yearly crutch necessary but my family always choose crutching over mulesing. Definately ups the yearly $$$ but it's a cost we prefer to carry. The sheep sure don't enjoy a good mulesing, I'd like to see a human with his legs up in stirrups, ready to lose some inner thigh skin to a hot shear...imagine the uproar. Ringing for castration and tails leave the lambs with some discomfort for a while but no where the same brutal league as mulesing. Also no cutting or mistreating sheep whilst in our shearing sheds, that's arse kicking material straight to the front gate. 42kg fleece...what a bloody ripper.

Good to see Fezz and I bet you are on a par with most of Australia's sheep and cattle farmers.

fezz wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2015 at 7:52pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 6:38pm: fezz wrote on Sep 3rd, 2015 at 4:25pm: Herb, are you a shearer...cause if you are you're way off track...and if you're not, you are still way off track. First off there are no cuts, definitely some inflamed and baldish skin patches from tension alopecia...you know that thing that generally happens to sheep if not shorn once a year. Also if a sheep gets cut, they really bleed...the wool would be soaked around each cut if there were any. Plus look how much wool length was left after shearing...the hand piece comb got nowhere near the skin. No foul, play on I say. P.S I grew up on a sheep station, have shorn more sheep than I want to remember...and unfortunately cut a few too :( :( :( Good stuff, Fez. I believe you. Therefore I'm folding my cards and conceding the poll to Gizmo. How do you feel about mulesing? link Don't agree with it...the cost vs benefit argument goes for mulesing as it's a once only affair, no yearly crutch necessary but my family always choose crutching over mulesing. Definately ups the yearly $$$ but it's a cost we prefer to carry. The sheep sure don't enjoy a good mulesing, I'd like to see a human with his legs up in stirrups, ready to lose some inner thigh skin to a hot shear...imagine the uproar. Ringing for castration and tails leave the lambs with some discomfort for a while but no where the same brutal league as mulesing. Also no cutting or mistreating sheep whilst in our shearing sheds, that's arse kicking material straight to the front gate. 42kg fleece...what a bloody ripper.

It's heartening to hear this attitude from you, Fezz. We city folk need to hear more from you country guys. You're doing a great job out there, and you should keep in mind that a lot us fellows in the cities appreciate and admire what you people are doing out there where you are at the mercy of droughts, bush fires, and bank managers looking to foreclose on you.

You might think of running a few vicuna on your property. Or ostriches, llamas, and other exotic animals for the boutique feathers, wool and cheese markets.  :)