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Message started by Taipan on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:42pm

Title: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:42pm
EPIC CHEMTRAILS MASSIVE GEO-ENGINEERING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6bEOYPCpf4

The Governments of the New World Order poison our environment with chemicals.
We must all wake up and see these things for what they really are.
It's been going on for years now and it seems that "they" have no intentions to stop.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 9th, 2014 at 9:59pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:42pm:
EPIC CHEMTRAILS MASSIVE GEO-ENGINEERING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6bEOYPCpf4

The Governments of the New World Order poison our environment with chemicals.
We must all wake up and see these things for what they really are.
It's been going on for years now and it seems that "they" have no intentions to stop.


Yes you should. Contrails have been around since planes flew in cold air. Look at your car exhaust on a cold morning. For every gallon of fuel burnt one gallon of water is produced. No they are not new, I used to watch them as a kid, there are just many thousands more planes now. You can see them produced by WW2 bombers in old footage.  ::)

Or are you just trolling? ;)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:05pm
I don't troll.

Chemtrails are for real.

Condensation trails DO NOT spread out over a couple hours to become messy, stringy looking clouds.

Condensation trails DO NOT contain barium and aluminium oxides.

Furthermore, if you're interested you can look up UN Weather Weapons Treaty as chemtrails are basically a form of weather warfare.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:16pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:05pm:
I don't troll.

Chemtrails are for real.

Condensation trails DO NOT spread out over a couple hours to become messy, stringy looking clouds.

Condensation trails DO NOT contain barium and aluminium oxides.

Furthermore, if you're interested you can look up UN Weather Weapons Treaty as chemtrails are basically a form of weather warfare.


Lol.. Yest they do.

Show me the data.

No thanks, who are they fighting? Probably shouldn't have asked that.  ::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:01pm
Y'know, there are real problems in the world and if we could get half the energy and time you guys put into tilting at windmills, some might have a chance at being solved.

How about this, if there are "boogie men" out there trying to do bad stuff, consider that making the population swing at ghosts like you tin foil guys do is a great way to distract people from the realities. The boogie men are using you.

There are things worth fighting, we import contaminated food from China that has no regulations like we do to make sure it's safe. Why do we bother making our food producers stick to safe food practices, which makes the food more expensive, when we bypass those regulations by importing food from China, sometimes through intermediate countries like NZ?

The TPP that will allow foreign corporations the right to sue us through our govt if we make laws that limit what they can do. Is it not our country?

There are so many things that you could put your energy towards that could make a real difference but you tilt at windmills.

How long has this NWO/Illuminati/whatever been around? I read you guys saying crap that it goes back to Sumer ffs! If they are that incompetent that they can't get it together in 10,000 years, they are not much of a threat.

What a waste of life and the time you have on this planet you people are. Do some good, stop shadow boxing.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:01pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:16pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 10:05pm:
I don't troll.

Chemtrails are for real.

Condensation trails DO NOT spread out over a couple hours to become messy, stringy looking clouds.

Condensation trails DO NOT contain barium and aluminium oxides.

Furthermore, if you're interested you can look up UN Weather Weapons Treaty as chemtrails are basically a form of weather warfare.


Lol.. Yest they do.

Show me the data.

No thanks, who are they fighting? Probably shouldn't have asked that.  ::)


I know the truth isn't very nice and that its hard for you to confront. So what you need to do is sit yourself down in front of the tv and reassure yourself that everything is ok. After about 10 minutes you'll be right as rain. 8-)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:09pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:01pm:
Y'know, there are real problems in the world and if we could get half the energy and time you guys put into tilting at windmills, some might have a chance at being solved.

How about this, if there are "boogie men" out there trying to do bad stuff, consider that making the population swing at ghosts like you tin foil guys do is a great way to distract people from the realities. The boogie men are using you.

There are things worth fighting, we import contaminated food from China that has no regulations like we do to make sure it's safe. Why do we bother making our food producers stick to safe food practices, which makes the food more expensive, when we bypass those regulations by importing food from China, sometimes through intermediate countries like NZ?

The TPP that will allow foreign corporations the right to sue us through our govt if we make laws that limit what they can do. Is it not our country?

There are so many things that you could put your energy towards that could make a real difference but you tilt at windmills.


These things all come from the same people, including the chemtrails.



"How long has this NWO/Illuminati/whatever been around? I read you guys saying crap that it goes back to Sumer for goodness sake! If they are that incompetent that they can't get it together in 10,000 years, they are not much of a threat."

Its not that simple. Back in ancient times they weren't co-operative with each other. As of a couple of hundred years ago with the creation of the first Order of the Illuminati on the 1st May 1776 that's when they began to get organised.

Then came the French Revolution which was really their first co-operative effort.

You need to go into their writings. Carrol Quigleys "Tragedy and Hope" and "The Anglo-American Establishment" would be a good start or just listen to the talks given by Alan Watt.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:17pm
Watch this vid if you really want to know how things work;

Alan Watt - Reality Check
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gDuSUML64g

Don't worry about the song at the beginning just go straight to the guy talking.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Frances on Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:22pm
When I clicked on the link it started an advertisement for gorgonzola cheese.....

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:26pm
Sheesh, you people will soak up anything unprovable as fact, make excuses for fundamental flaws in the thought process, you are like people of religion, you cannot accept facts if it goes against what you hold to be true.

Just give me the data on the aluminium and barium, I hope it's not the same data that's on youtube that I was banned from posting on for showing their math was wrong.

I'm not much of a TV person, what should I do?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:30pm

Frances wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 11:22pm:
When I clicked on the link it started an advertisement for gorgonzola cheese.....


It's a plot by the NWO obviously. ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Richdude on Mar 10th, 2014 at 2:57am
Setanta you could start by reading and researching these topics before posting. You are being IGNORE - RANT.
Under FOI we know that the Gov in the US was testing various biological sprays from aircraft on urban populations to see their effect in the 50's and 60's. Do you think that they have stopped testing since?
Taipan is correct to be concerned and you are being irresponsible or a fraud.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 10th, 2014 at 4:44am
many blessings

the id setanta has been exposed many times

as a government sychophant yes and agent for

the mechanism of control .

yes always ridiculing intelligent types whom

do their research into facts , then out comes this dupe

setanta to ridicule facts and reply with abuse ..

this is forgiven and seen for what it truly is

these are the limp wrists that attempt ,

and not very well ,to hide the conspiracy

so as you can see with this calibre of sychophant

the conspiracy continues to be exposed as

many intelligent types see these dupes

for whom they are , and as such

disempower the propaganda

facts are truths in

love and light

namaste

- : )=


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 10th, 2014 at 9:36am

Taipan wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:42pm:
EPIC CHEMTRAILS MASSIVE GEO-ENGINEERING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6bEOYPCpf4

The Governments of the New World Order poison our environment with chemicals.
We must all wake up and see these things for what they really are.
It's been going on for years now and it seems that "they" have no intentions to stop.


This thread should be renamed "EPIC FAIL"
I can't believe that people are still falling for that old conspiracy theory. But then again Taipan is a few clowns short of a circus.

So called "chemtrails" are nothing more than condensation trails that happen to linger on days of low winds and stable air in the upper atmosphere.


Quote:
When a jet engine is spewing out hot, humid air into an atmosphere that is cold and has low vapor pressure, the result is condensation. The water vapor coming out of the engine quickly condenses into water droplets and then crystallizes into ice. The ice crystals are the clouds that form behind the engine. This is why the streaks are called contrails, short for "condensation trails." To help explain it, scientists liken it to seeing your breath on cold days. You may have noticed that puffs of breath dissipate quickly on dryer days. The same is true of contrails: When the atmosphere is more humid, the contrails linger, but when the atmosphere is dry, the contrails disappear more quickly.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/what-are-chemtrails.htm


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:36pm
Lol wheres the chemical analysis of the chemtrails? Seriously Taipan, drug free is better

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:48pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 9:36am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:42pm:
EPIC CHEMTRAILS MASSIVE GEO-ENGINEERING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6bEOYPCpf4

The Governments of the New World Order poison our environment with chemicals.
We must all wake up and see these things for what they really are.
It's been going on for years now and it seems that "they" have no intentions to stop.


This thread should be renamed "EPIC FAIL"
I can't believe that people are still falling for that old conspiracy theory. But then again Taipan is a few clowns short of a circus.

So called "chemtrails" are nothing more than condensation trails that happen to linger on days of low winds and stable air in the upper atmosphere.


Quote:
When a jet engine is spewing out hot, humid air into an atmosphere that is cold and has low vapor pressure, the result is condensation. The water vapor coming out of the engine quickly condenses into water droplets and then crystallizes into ice. The ice crystals are the clouds that form behind the engine. This is why the streaks are called contrails, short for "condensation trails." To help explain it, scientists liken it to seeing your breath on cold days. You may have noticed that puffs of breath dissipate quickly on dryer days. The same is true of contrails: When the atmosphere is more humid, the contrails linger, but when the atmosphere is dry, the contrails disappear more quickly.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/what-are-chemtrails.htm


Contrails that linger don't do so for hours.

Only chemtrails will hang in the atmosphere for hours spreading out and becoming what looks like a type of cloud.

And contrails don't droop or drip because they're not a concoction of many different chemicals with large molecules.

Furthermore, people who throw buzzwords around like "conspiracy theory" are lemmings who are incapable of thinking for themselves. You don't realise it but these buzzwords have been given to you for the specific purpose of shutting down debate. Its for the lemmings to use and parrot to others and I can see that you have been trained well, just like Pavlov's dog.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:44am
How about evidence, is that just a buzzword Taipan?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:15am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:44am:
How about evidence, is that just a buzzword Taipan?


You want evidence? ............Look Up!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:23am

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:15am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:44am:
How about evidence, is that just a buzzword Taipan?


You want evidence? ............Look Up!


Agh! Black ops helicopter! :(

Phew! It's just the ceiling fan. ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:40am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:44am:
How about evidence, is that just a buzzword Taipan?


Heres some evidence -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34U0Pwz4_c

Watch it!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2014 at 9:12am

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:40am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:44am:
How about evidence, is that just a buzzword Taipan?


Heres some evidence -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34U0Pwz4_c

Watch it!


Y'know there is a patent number there. Let's check it out.

http://www.google.com/patents/US7413145

Quote:
ABSTRACT
A method and apparatus for aerial fire suppression utilizing a potable fire retardant chemical dispensing system, readily adaptable, without extensive aircraft modification, to various makes of aircraft, for dispensing current types of forest and range fire fighting chemicals. The aerial delivery system is self contained and reusable. It enables cargo/utility aircraft to carry and dump a load, under control. The aerial delivery system is capable of attachment at the wing box, pressurized delivery from the nozzles, and nozzles directed straight downward.


Hmm, a fire fighting plane. Scary!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 11th, 2014 at 9:14am
"Ladies and gentlemen, this is your Captain speaking. Our flight will be delayed by 10 minutes as we need to take on an extra 10 ton of chemicals to spray on everyone in OZ"

"And no i'm not a retarded ding-bat, this rully, rully, trully happens"


::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2014 at 9:24am
Another pic in that video showed this one.
http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cabin_nose_section_of_747-8I_prototype.jpg



Not from the video but look and read.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=iJ2FqbrRqyYC&pg=PA76&dq=inside+boeing:+building+the+777+barrels&as_brr=3&ei=R_IpSr74EISmkATV-7T7Bg&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=inside%20boeing%3A%20building%20the%20777%20barrels&f=false

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 11th, 2014 at 10:03am

Taipan wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:48pm:
Contrails that linger don't do so for hours.

Only chemtrails will hang in the atmosphere for hours spreading out and becoming what looks like a type of cloud.

And contrails don't droop or drip because they're not a concoction of many different chemicals with large molecules.


Absolute psuedo science.

Condensation trails are made up of water droplets and ice crystals which means that the size of the molecules with in them are completely irrelevant to how long it takes them to dissipate.

The length of time that the condensation trails last is purely a result of the weather and winds at high altitudes. A "cloud of chemicals" simply wouldn't act any differently than a cloud of water droplets and ice crystals. It's appearance and longevity is purely a function of the weather conditions.

So unless you have any chemical analysis that proves these condensation trails are full of mind altering chemicals, then there is no reason to suggest that they are anything more than water droplets and ice crystals.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 11th, 2014 at 10:07am

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:40am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:44am:
How about evidence, is that just a buzzword Taipan?


Heres some evidence -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34U0Pwz4_c

Watch it!



A youtube video, colour me convinced by this ripping of news sites with no actual chemical analysis.


Also in the first 10 seconds he mentions toxins, some known some unknown. If we have unknown toxins, how can we know that they are there. How do we test for them, how do we even know if they are toxic, since they are unknown.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:47pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 10:03am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:48pm:
Contrails that linger don't do so for hours.

Only chemtrails will hang in the atmosphere for hours spreading out and becoming what looks like a type of cloud.

And contrails don't droop or drip because they're not a concoction of many different chemicals with large molecules.


Absolute psuedo science.

Condensation trails are made up of water droplets and ice crystals which means that the size of the molecules with in them are completely irrelevant to how long it takes them to dissipate.

The length of time that the condensation trails last is purely a result of the weather and winds at high altitudes. A "cloud of chemicals" simply wouldn't act any differently than a cloud of water droplets and ice crystals. It's appearance and longevity is purely a function of the weather conditions.

So unless you have any chemical analysis that proves these condensation trails are full of mind altering chemicals, then there is no reason to suggest that they are anything more than water droplets and ice crystals.


Im not talking about the size of the molecules im talking about their mass. Check out the mass of a drop of water compared to the same volume of say barium oxide or aluminium oxide.

You know what mass is don't you? You find it in equations like p=mv and f=ma. So obviously the different chemical, and therefore molecular, make up of what's in the trails is going to make a difference to both the way in which the trails dissipate and the way in which the molecules are affected by temperature.

Furthermore, as I have previously said, condensation trails don't droop or drip, chemtrails do.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:50pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 10:07am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:40am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:44am:
How about evidence, is that just a buzzword Taipan?


Heres some evidence -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34U0Pwz4_c

Watch it!



A youtube video, colour me convinced by this ripping of news sites with no actual chemical analysis.


Also in the first 10 seconds he mentions toxins, some known some unknown. If we have unknown toxins, how can we know that they are there. How do we test for them, how do we even know if they are toxic, since they are unknown.


Im certain that even if the proof was put right in front of your eyes you still wont believe it. You know why? Because you don't really want to know the truth.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:51pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:47pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 10:03am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 8:48pm:
Contrails that linger don't do so for hours.

Only chemtrails will hang in the atmosphere for hours spreading out and becoming what looks like a type of cloud.

And contrails don't droop or drip because they're not a concoction of many different chemicals with large molecules.


Absolute psuedo science.

Condensation trails are made up of water droplets and ice crystals which means that the size of the molecules with in them are completely irrelevant to how long it takes them to dissipate.

The length of time that the condensation trails last is purely a result of the weather and winds at high altitudes. A "cloud of chemicals" simply wouldn't act any differently than a cloud of water droplets and ice crystals. It's appearance and longevity is purely a function of the weather conditions.

So unless you have any chemical analysis that proves these condensation trails are full of mind altering chemicals, then there is no reason to suggest that they are anything more than water droplets and ice crystals.


Im not talking about the size of the molecules im talking about their mass. Check out the mass of a drop of water compared to the same volume of say barium oxide or aluminium oxide.

You know what mass is don't you? You find it in equations like p=mv and f=ma. So obviously the different chemical, and therefore molecular, make up of what's in the trails is going to make a difference to both the way in which the trails dissipate and the way in which the molecules are affected by temperature.

Furthermore, as I have previously said, condensation trails don't droop or drip, chemtrails do.




Therefore it should be exceptionally easy to obtain a sample and analyse it using a variety of scientifically valid methods.


OH wait.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:52pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:50pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 10:07am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 8:40am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 7:44am:
How about evidence, is that just a buzzword Taipan?


Heres some evidence -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c34U0Pwz4_c

Watch it!



A youtube video, colour me convinced by this ripping of news sites with no actual chemical analysis.


Also in the first 10 seconds he mentions toxins, some known some unknown. If we have unknown toxins, how can we know that they are there. How do we test for them, how do we even know if they are toxic, since they are unknown.


Im certain that even if the proof was put right in front of your eyes you still wont believe it. You know why? Because you don't really want to know the truth.




Actually if you had a GC-MS or HPLC-MS of "chemtrails" here now with valid protocols in a variety of labs here now, I'd accept it as evidence. Why because its actual evidence, not made up bulldust.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:58pm
Lab tests show chemtrails contain aluminum!

In 2008, samples around California's Lake Shasta and the Pit River Arm tributary were tested in a State Certified Lab following weeks of fly-overs and chemtrails. The results of the water samples showed 4,610,000 parts per million of aluminum -- 4610 times the maximum contaminant level! [6]

At another pond, filled with filtered water and confirmed to contain "0" aluminum, test revealed 375,000 parts per million of aluminum (375 times the maximum contaminant level) after only 18 months exposure to the aerial spraying.

The usually pristine snow pack from the Ski Bowl area of Mt. Shasta showed 61,000 parts per million of aluminum!

http://www.viewzone.com/chemtrails.html

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2014 at 3:07pm
http://www.stopsprayingcalifornia.com/Stronthium.php

Stop Spraying California!

Spraying Biological & Chemicals Agents on U. S. Citizens is Illegal!
The only way to STOP CHEMTRAILS is to wake up others!
Visit our Chemtrail Survival Items Page



Strontium and Chemtrails

Strontium ( /ˈstrɒnʃiəm/ STRON-shee-əm, /ˈstrɒntiəm/ STRON-tee-əm, or /ˈstrɒnʃəm/ STRON-shəm) is a chemical element with the symbol Sr and the atomic number 38. An alkaline earth metal, strontium is a soft silver-white or yellowish metallic element that is highly reactive chemically. The metal turns yellow when exposed to air. It occurs naturally in the minerals celestine and strontianite. The 90Sr isotope is present in radioactive fallout and has a half-life of 28.90 years. Both strontium and strontianite are named after Strontian, a village in Scotland near which the mineral was first discovered.

Strontium Side effects

The most common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, headache and eczema, but with only 2–4% increase compared with placebo group. However, most of the side effect will be tolerated in 3 months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strontium

What about the strontium associated with the barium?

Strontium is very difficult to separate from barium. There was no mention of the use of titanium in the atmosphere, as well. There was no mention of how these positively charged ionized barium and strontium particles bond to fluoride and chloride in the upper atmosphere and drop them to the earth’s surface which is then inhaled by the public. These are typical elements I can easily find on all patients during the spring and summer months when these materials ionize more readily.

If you don’t think there is a problem with inhaling these toxic elements into your lungs, think about this. Barium and strontium fall in the same periodic table column as calcium and magnesium. That means these heavy metals can and do substitute for these extremely important macronutrients in your body. These heavy metals then quickly move into the skeletal system and soft tissues. These heavy metals will not work effectively in the body but will be utilized in place of them because of the availability. If you seem to notice more cardiac arrest, stroke and high blood pressure issues this summer and you think it is only the heat, think again.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Mar 11th, 2014 at 3:47pm


1. Who exactly is carrying out this high altitude aerial spraying?

2. How do people know what is a chemtrail andwaht is a contrail or aree they all chemtrails?

3. How do they know a contamination is from chemtrails or some other delivery method

4. Not an easy thing to hide, considerng the aircraft has to undergo extensive modifications, building of chemical storage and loading facities and then the ongoing maintenance of these systems.


And of course there is always the question of 'what is the point'?


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 11th, 2014 at 4:08pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:58pm:
Lab tests show chemtrails contain aluminum!

In 2008, samples around California's Lake Shasta and the Pit River Arm tributary were tested in a State Certified Lab following weeks of fly-overs and chemtrails. The results of the water samples showed 4,610,000 parts per million of aluminum -- 4610 times the maximum contaminant level! [6]

At another pond, filled with filtered water and confirmed to contain "0" aluminum, test revealed 375,000 parts per million of aluminum (375 times the maximum contaminant level) after only 18 months exposure to the aerial spraying.

The usually pristine snow pack from the Ski Bowl area of Mt. Shasta showed 61,000 parts per million of aluminum!

http://www.viewzone.com/chemtrails.html


A reference that is not peer-reviewed does not count. How can we assess its validity, the methodology?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 11th, 2014 at 5:49pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:58pm:
Lab tests show chemtrails contain aluminum!

In 2008, samples around California's Lake Shasta and the Pit River Arm tributary were tested in a State Certified Lab following weeks of fly-overs and chemtrails. The results of the water samples showed 4,610,000 parts per million of aluminum -- 4610 times the maximum contaminant level! [6]

At another pond, filled with filtered water and confirmed to contain "0" aluminum, test revealed 375,000 parts per million of aluminum (375 times the maximum contaminant level) after only 18 months exposure to the aerial spraying.

The usually pristine snow pack from the Ski Bowl area of Mt. Shasta showed 61,000 parts per million of aluminum!

http://www.viewzone.com/chemtrails.html


4 .6 million parts per million!? Wow they should mine that! ;D

They didn't test the water in the pond, they tested the sludge at the bottom of the pond and that came from? Dust? Aluminium is the most abundant metal in soil.

Snow pack tested in summer after being contaminated by dirt/dust.

http://contrailscience.com/what-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/

Read it!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Grappler 2014 on Mar 11th, 2014 at 6:01pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfOrez6q7WM

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 12th, 2014 at 9:00am

Setanta wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 5:49pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 2:58pm:
Lab tests show chemtrails contain aluminum!

In 2008, samples around California's Lake Shasta and the Pit River Arm tributary were tested in a State Certified Lab following weeks of fly-overs and chemtrails. The results of the water samples showed 4,610,000 parts per million of aluminum -- 4610 times the maximum contaminant level! [6]

At another pond, filled with filtered water and confirmed to contain "0" aluminum, test revealed 375,000 parts per million of aluminum (375 times the maximum contaminant level) after only 18 months exposure to the aerial spraying.

The usually pristine snow pack from the Ski Bowl area of Mt. Shasta showed 61,000 parts per million of aluminum!

http://www.viewzone.com/chemtrails.html


4 .6 million parts per million!? Wow they should mine that! ;D

They didn't test the water in the pond, they tested the sludge at the bottom of the pond and that came from? Dust? Aluminium is the most abundant metal in soil.

Snow pack tested in summer after being contaminated by dirt/dust.

http://contrailscience.com/what-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/

Read it!



The fact that the water was 37.5% by weight aluminium pretty much shows that. I doubt water could seriously dissolve that much aluminium without being a superpressurised steam

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 12th, 2014 at 10:18am

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 3:47pm:
1. Who exactly is carrying out this high altitude aerial spraying?

2. How do people know what is a chemtrail andwaht is a contrail or aree they all chemtrails?

3. How do they know a contamination is from chemtrails or some other delivery method

4. Not an easy thing to hide, considerng the aircraft has to undergo extensive modifications, building of chemical storage and loading facities and then the ongoing maintenance of these systems.


And of course there is always the question of 'what is the point'?


5. Why TF to they spray these chemicals all over the desert?

::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by John Smith on Mar 12th, 2014 at 10:26am
I hadn't realised they gave those in lunatic asylums internet access!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:47am

FriYAY wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 10:18am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 3:47pm:
1. Who exactly is carrying out this high altitude aerial spraying?

2. How do people know what is a chemtrail andwaht is a contrail or aree they all chemtrails?

3. How do they know a contamination is from chemtrails or some other delivery method

4. Not an easy thing to hide, considerng the aircraft has to undergo extensive modifications, building of chemical storage and loading facities and then the ongoing maintenance of these systems.


And of course there is always the question of 'what is the point'?


5. Why TF to they spray these chemicals all over the desert?

::)




Who is "they"?


Which desert?


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 12th, 2014 at 12:07pm

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:47am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 10:18am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 3:47pm:
1. Who exactly is carrying out this high altitude aerial spraying?

2. How do people know what is a chemtrail andwaht is a contrail or aree they all chemtrails?

3. How do they know a contamination is from chemtrails or some other delivery method

4. Not an easy thing to hide, considerng the aircraft has to undergo extensive modifications, building of chemical storage and loading facities and then the ongoing maintenance of these systems.


And of course there is always the question of 'what is the point'?


5. Why TF to they spray these chemicals all over the desert?

::)




Who is "they"?


Which desert?


Buggered if i know.

Australian deserts, planes cross the desert in OZ to get to places, or do they only turn on the chemtrails over populated areas?

(I'm being facetious by the way)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Richdude on Mar 12th, 2014 at 12:16pm
Hey Taipan I think you should check your maths - 4,610,000 parts per million is hard to imagine.
Here we have aircraft constantly cris-crossing the sky. Mostly twin engined, medium range, commercial jets at cruse altitude. Most jets leave a contrail that disappears in seconds - others last all day and blanket it.
Love a technical explanation.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by froggie on Mar 12th, 2014 at 12:25pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:42pm:
EPIC CHEMTRAILS MASSIVE GEO-ENGINEERING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6bEOYPCpf4

The Governments of the New World Order poison our environment with chemicals.
We must all wake up and see these things for what they really are.
It's been going on for years now and it seems that "they" have no intentions to stop.


Can't be buggered going all that way back, but didn't you start a thread a couple of years back claiming all the contrails were from high altitude military spy planes???

Just askin'.....

;)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 12th, 2014 at 12:26pm

Richdude wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 12:16pm:
Most jets leave a contrail that disappears in seconds - others last all day and blanket it.
Love a technical explanation.


Its just a question of what the weather is doing at that particular altitude.
If the humidity is high and the winds are weak then the con trails will last a long time. If the humidity is low and/or the winds are strong then the contrails will disappear quickly.
It's basic physics, there is no need for "chem trail" conspiracy theories

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Mar 12th, 2014 at 1:00pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 12:07pm:
Buggered if i know.

Australian deserts, planes cross the desert in OZ to get to places, or do they only turn on the chemtrails over populated areas?

(I'm being facetious by the way)



You need to reply in Sarcastica Bold.

:)


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 12th, 2014 at 1:29pm
As you all comment egotistically I see out my front yard as I look up a whole bunch of chemtrails and thjink to myself what a bunch of smacking lemmings who so wish to diminish the truth that exists right in front of their faces, and I all I can do is shrink back into myself as the masses, in their madness, mock and deny the horrible truth that befalls them. You make me sick all of you for not having the courage to wake up to what is really happening.

You have been told, there is no way you can say that you didn't know.

You disgust me.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 12th, 2014 at 1:30pm
You mean contrails obviously. SW Sydney you're right under the flight path for the airport.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 12th, 2014 at 1:48pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 1:29pm:
As you all comment egotistically I see out my front yard as I look up a whole bunch of chemtrails and thjink to myself what a bunch of smacking lemmings who so wish to diminish the truth that exists right in front of their faces, and I all I can do is shrink back into myself as the masses, in their madness, mock and deny the horrible truth that befalls them. You make me sick all of you for not having the courage to wake up to what is really happening.

You have been told, there is no way you can say that you didn't know.

You disgust me.


You tell us we are commenting egotistically yet you sit there on your high horse telling us we are lemmings and lack courage which means you think you are not a lemming and have courage and stand, in your infinite wisdom, brightly above us trying to lead us to a better world and safety.

You have been shown your "evidence" is laughable, don't say we didn't show you.

You make me laugh. ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 12th, 2014 at 2:11pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 1:29pm:
As you all comment egotistically I see out my front yard as I look up a whole bunch of chemtrails and thjink to myself what a bunch of smacking lemmings who so wish to diminish the truth that exists right in front of their faces, and I all I can do is shrink back into myself as the masses, in their madness, mock and deny the horrible truth that befalls them. You make me sick all of you for not having the courage to wake up to what is really happening.

You have been told, there is no way you can say that you didn't know.

You disgust me.



You need stronger medication. ::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 12th, 2014 at 2:16pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 1:29pm:
As you all comment egotistically I see out my front yard as I look up a whole bunch of chemtrails and thjink to myself what a bunch of smacking lemmings who so wish to diminish the truth that exists right in front of their faces, and I all I can do is shrink back into myself as the masses, in their madness, mock and deny the horrible truth that befalls them. You make me sick all of you for not having the courage to wake up to what is really happening.

You have been told, there is no way you can say that you didn't know.

You disgust me.


You know you are in trouble when the only person who supports your claims is it_is_the_light.  ;D

Seriously though, It saddens me that you live in such a paranoid and delusional world. I really do suggest that you get some professional help.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Lols on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:11pm
chemtrails
what does 'chem' stand for?
Chemicals?

In our air?
How clean is our air then?
Chemicals are toxic are they not? Not so 'au naturale'  then?
Isn't the best thing to breathe, fresh clean air, not air laden with chemicals?

So it happens, that over 100 years ago, 1 in 100 people got cancer, now it is creeping up to 1 in 2 people with cancer, and getting younger at that.

Air quality and water quality and food quality, etc all have a major contributing factor in that IMO. As they say, we are what we eat  ;) chemicals and all.

I had a hair analysis done some years ago, and was amazed at what I had too much of and too little of.

My friend had it done also, and her readings were different.

So it all depends on where we live, what we touch, smell, eat and drink effect our bodies reaction and balance of minerals and chemicals.

My friend had, for instance, a lot of copper in her reading, as she was 70 years of age, her hair was a natural colour, whereas I was 50 yrs of age, and had no copper in my chart, and I have no colour left in my hair.






Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Gnads on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:37pm

Quote:
Air quality and water quality and food quality


Means nothing ..... foods imported from China don't meet our standards yet they are on supermarket shelves in droves.

Oil & Gas(CSG & SSG) companies have legislation passed by govt through paid off corrupt Politicians to exempt them from the national Safe/Clean Air & Water Acts .... so the EPA is powerless to prosecute them ..........

the same is occurring here in Australia with Industry driven propaganda & using high profile people who along with many landholders have been bought to push their agenda.

So talking about "the evil" that is being perpetrated around the globe...........

there's some that is a reality.

LOCK THE GATE ....... BAN CSG & HYDRAULIC FRACKING.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:43pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:11pm:
chemtrails
what does 'chem' stand for?
Chemicals?

In our air?
How clean is our air then?
Chemicals are toxic are they not? Not so 'au naturale'  then?
Isn't the best thing to breathe, fresh clean air, not air laden with chemicals?

So it happens, that over 100 years ago, 1 in 100 people got cancer, now it is creeping up to 1 in 2 people with cancer, and getting younger at that.

Air quality and water quality and food quality, etc all have a major contributing factor in that IMO. As they say, we are what we eat  ;) chemicals and all.

I had a hair analysis done some years ago, and was amazed at what I had too much of and too little of.

My friend had it done also, and her readings were different.

So it all depends on where we live, what we touch, smell, eat and drink effect our bodies reaction and balance of minerals and chemicals.

My friend had, for instance, a lot of copper in her reading, as she was 70 years of age, her hair was a natural colour, whereas I was 50 yrs of age, and had no copper in my chart, and I have no colour left in my hair.


Was you friend there when the TV was spying on you?

;D ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Lols on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:49pm
Oh lookie, it's my little silly mate FriYAY that likes to pick on me.....boo hoo.....how about we find a nice big jet plane, and face it's rear end towards your abode with your windows and doors wide open, so you can inhale all those chemtrails to live with and breath, and sleep with...if you think they are not that harmful.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:55pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:49pm:
Oh lookie, it's my little silly mate FriYAY that likes to pick on me.....boo hoo.....how about we find a nice big jet plane, and face it's rear end towards your abode with your windows and doors wide open, so you can inhale all those chemtrails to live with and breath, and sleep with...if you think they are not that harmful.


OK

:P



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:01pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:49pm:
Oh lookie, it's my little silly mate FriYAY that likes to pick on me.....boo hoo.....how about we find a nice big jet plane, and face it's rear end towards your abode with your windows and doors wide open, so you can inhale all those chemtrails to live with and breath, and sleep with...if you think they are not that harmful.



Maybe when valid questions are posted and you deliberately choose to ignore them it gives reason to 'pick on you'.


Maybe too much foil is blocking your ability to read posts not involving comments not reinforcing your own bias.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:12pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:11pm:
chemtrails
what does 'chem' stand for?
Chemicals?

In our air?
How clean is our air then?
Chemicals are toxic are they not? Not so 'au naturale'  then?
Isn't the best thing to breathe, fresh clean air, not air laden with chemicals?

So it happens, that over 100 years ago, 1 in 100 people got cancer, now it is creeping up to 1 in 2 people with cancer, and getting younger at that.

Air quality and water quality and food quality, etc all have a major contributing factor in that IMO. As they say, we are what we eat  ;) chemicals and all.

I had a hair analysis done some years ago, and was amazed at what I had too much of and too little of.

My friend had it done also, and her readings were different.

So it all depends on where we live, what we touch, smell, eat and drink effect our bodies reaction and balance of minerals and chemicals.

My friend had, for instance, a lot of copper in her reading, as she was 70 years of age, her hair was a natural colour, whereas I was 50 yrs of age, and had no copper in my chart, and I have no colour left in my hair.


So are you agreeing here that chemtrails are only engine exhaust products now? That's not the usual view from the foilers. If that is what you are saying, congratulations on using your grey matter, but what shall we do about motor vehicles? They spew their exhausts down here where we breathe.

Maybe your friend wore those copper bracelets that the aged used to wear, do they still do that?


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Lols on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:14pm

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:49pm:
Oh lookie, it's my little silly mate FriYAY that likes to pick on me.....boo hoo.....how about we find a nice big jet plane, and face it's rear end towards your abode with your windows and doors wide open, so you can inhale all those chemtrails to live with and breath, and sleep with...if you think they are not that harmful.



Maybe when valid questions are posted and you deliberately choose to ignore them it gives reason to 'pick on you'.


Maybe too much foil is blocking your ability to read posts not involving comments not reinforcing your own bias.


WTF are you on about?

Chemicals are chemicals, what are you trying to tell us, that black is white?

Don't you have a mirror in your abode? You chose to ignore a lot of evidence and treat posters with such malaise and name calling, and this "pick on you" as you so eloquently put it, is actually just that isn't it, intentional stalking and hounding a poster with nothing more than just 'picking' on them. There is a lot of valid points made by many, and you choose to just be a dh to them.

You have just revealed your agenda.

But I will try to be like the enlightened one and forgive you, but that's a definite maybe only, can't make any promises.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Lols on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:17pm

Setanta wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:12pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:11pm:
chemtrails
what does 'chem' stand for?
Chemicals?

In our air?
How clean is our air then?
Chemicals are toxic are they not? Not so 'au naturale'  then?
Isn't the best thing to breathe, fresh clean air, not air laden with chemicals?

So it happens, that over 100 years ago, 1 in 100 people got cancer, now it is creeping up to 1 in 2 people with cancer, and getting younger at that.

Air quality and water quality and food quality, etc all have a major contributing factor in that IMO. As they say, we are what we eat  ;) chemicals and all.

I had a hair analysis done some years ago, and was amazed at what I had too much of and too little of.

My friend had it done also, and her readings were different.

So it all depends on where we live, what we touch, smell, eat and drink effect our bodies reaction and balance of minerals and chemicals.

My friend had, for instance, a lot of copper in her reading, as she was 70 years of age, her hair was a natural colour, whereas I was 50 yrs of age, and had no copper in my chart, and I have no colour left in my hair.


So are you agreeing here that chemtrails are only engine exhaust products now? That's not the usual view from the foilers. If that is what you are saying, congratulations on using your grey matter, but what shall we do about motor vehicles? They spew their exhausts down here where we breathe.

Maybe your friend wore those copper bracelets that the aged used to wear, do they still do that?


Anything that comes out of an engine spewed into the atmosphere is not for the best of our health, wouldn't you agree?

And as for the copper bracelets, she didn't wear any that I can remember.
My father in law used to wear them, mainly for arthritis though.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:26pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:17pm:

Setanta wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:12pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:11pm:
chemtrails
what does 'chem' stand for?
Chemicals?

In our air?
How clean is our air then?
Chemicals are toxic are they not? Not so 'au naturale'  then?
Isn't the best thing to breathe, fresh clean air, not air laden with chemicals?

So it happens, that over 100 years ago, 1 in 100 people got cancer, now it is creeping up to 1 in 2 people with cancer, and getting younger at that.

Air quality and water quality and food quality, etc all have a major contributing factor in that IMO. As they say, we are what we eat  ;) chemicals and all.

I had a hair analysis done some years ago, and was amazed at what I had too much of and too little of.

My friend had it done also, and her readings were different.

So it all depends on where we live, what we touch, smell, eat and drink effect our bodies reaction and balance of minerals and chemicals.

My friend had, for instance, a lot of copper in her reading, as she was 70 years of age, her hair was a natural colour, whereas I was 50 yrs of age, and had no copper in my chart, and I have no colour left in my hair.


So are you agreeing here that chemtrails are only engine exhaust products now? That's not the usual view from the foilers. If that is what you are saying, congratulations on using your grey matter, but what shall we do about motor vehicles? They spew their exhausts down here where we breathe.

Maybe your friend wore those copper bracelets that the aged used to wear, do they still do that?


Anything that comes out of an engine spewed into the atmosphere is not for the best of our health, wouldn't you agree?

And as for the copper bracelets, she didn't wear any that I can remember.
My father in law used to wear them, mainly for arthritis though.


Sure, I'll agree with that but when talking about chemtrails, that is not what the foilers mean, you know that. No-one will deny that it's burnt hydrocarbon fuel. This will almost all be turned in to water, CO2, CO and some small amount of NO. The most dangerous gas is CO(Carbon Monoxide which catalytic converters on cars deal with as well as NO). The worst exhaust products come out of diesel engines, the carbon particulates(soot if you like).

So are you saying you think what comes out of aircraft is just exhaust gasses?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Gnads on Mar 12th, 2014 at 6:13pm
They may have removed "lead" from petrol

but catalytic converter or not...... the fumes from "unleaded" fuel is just as carcenogenic & poisonous if not more so than before.....

There are far fewer additives in diesel as it comes off early in the refining process .... & is still an oil.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Mar 12th, 2014 at 7:10pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:14pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 4:01pm:

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:49pm:
Oh lookie, it's my little silly mate FriYAY that likes to pick on me.....boo hoo.....how about we find a nice big jet plane, and face it's rear end towards your abode with your windows and doors wide open, so you can inhale all those chemtrails to live with and breath, and sleep with...if you think they are not that harmful.



Maybe when valid questions are posted and you deliberately choose to ignore them it gives reason to 'pick on you'.


Maybe too much foil is blocking your ability to read posts not involving comments not reinforcing your own bias.


WTF are you on about?

Chemicals are chemicals, what are you trying to tell us, that black is white?

Don't you have a mirror in your abode? You chose to ignore a lot of evidence and treat posters with such malaise and name calling, and this "pick on you" as you so eloquently put it, is actually just that isn't it, intentional stalking and hounding a poster with nothing more than just 'picking' on them. There is a lot of valid points made by many, and you choose to just be a dh to them.

You have just revealed your agenda.

But I will try to be like the enlightened one and forgive you, but that's a definite maybe only, can't make any promises.



But this thread is not about chemicals sitting under your sink now is it, it is specifically about chemtrails and I asked a series of pertenant questions, which none of the foil brigade as bothered to answer.


You may choose to ignore my questions, but you will have no credence to comment further.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 12th, 2014 at 7:37pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:11pm:
chemtrails
what does 'chem' stand for?
Chemicals?

In our air?
How clean is our air then?
Chemicals are toxic are they not? Not so 'au naturale'  then?
Isn't the best thing to breathe, fresh clean air, not air laden with chemicals?

So it happens, that over 100 years ago, 1 in 100 people got cancer, now it is creeping up to 1 in 2 people with cancer, and getting younger at that.

Air quality and water quality and food quality, etc all have a major contributing factor in that IMO. As they say, we are what we eat  ;) chemicals and all.

I had a hair analysis done some years ago, and was amazed at what I had too much of and too little of.

My friend had it done also, and her readings were different.

So it all depends on where we live, what we touch, smell, eat and drink effect our bodies reaction and balance of minerals and chemicals.

My friend had, for instance, a lot of copper in her reading, as she was 70 years of age, her hair was a natural colour, whereas I was 50 yrs of age, and had no copper in my chart, and I have no colour left in my hair.




Ummm the old natural is better fallacy. Ricin? Extremely toxic. All natural, not man made. Arsenic, natural, not man made. Thallium, natural not man made.


You get my drift.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 12th, 2014 at 7:38pm

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 3:11pm:
chemtrails
what does 'chem' stand for?
Chemicals?

In our air?
How clean is our air then?
Chemicals are toxic are they not? Not so 'au naturale'  then?
Isn't the best thing to breathe, fresh clean air, not air laden with chemicals?

So it happens, that over 100 years ago, 1 in 100 people got cancer, now it is creeping up to 1 in 2 people with cancer, and getting younger at that.

Air quality and water quality and food quality, etc all have a major contributing factor in that IMO. As they say, we are what we eat  ;) chemicals and all.

I had a hair analysis done some years ago, and was amazed at what I had too much of and too little of.

My friend had it done also, and her readings were different.

So it all depends on where we live, what we touch, smell, eat and drink effect our bodies reaction and balance of minerals and chemicals.

My friend had, for instance, a lot of copper in her reading, as she was 70 years of age, her hair was a natural colour, whereas I was 50 yrs of age, and had no copper in my chart, and I have no colour left in my hair.



Umm the old au naturale fallacy. Ricin? natural, not man made. Arsenic, all natural. Thallium? Aflatoxin? Botulism?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Lols on Mar 12th, 2014 at 8:36pm
Yes Pastaf, there are some natural occuring elements, not saying that it can't be good or bad, after all, even a snake bite is natural, but not good for you.
BTW, I have a cook book for cyanide, quite harmless and natural and beneficial, if you want, I can post some recipes up 8-)

Now, to FriYAY...


Quote:
Was you friend there when the TV was spying on you?


I think you missed a valid point when I discussed this in another thread....I said it was a 'smart' tv....it's like a computer, runs off the wireless modem, and can go online, watch youtube and many other things, as a usual laptop, tablet, smart phone, or computer can do...get it...smart tv?

So what's to say, it cannot be hacked....after all, many do hack into smart phones and computers, accessing banking information. Happens all the time, oh, and web cams can be accessed by those that have the know how also.

Do you find that hard to believe?

Now, back on topic, I have gone back over this whole thread and doing some information gathering, then going out into cyberspace to hunt for more information, and have found some links for perusal. Very interesting what  Kristen Meghan has to say.
Then please do come and comment with some further information, or valid points for thoughtful discussion, after all, isn't that what a 'discussion forum' is supposed to be about  :)


http://artzgirl.hubpages.com/hub/Chemtrail-BREAKTHROUGH-January-2013

Please, also, read this following, and remark on this also.

http://rense.com/general79/chem.htm

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Richdude on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:56pm
Hey Taipan - chin up old soul you have a healthy, courageous attitude.
I asked for a technical explanation and didn't get one. I have seen jets fly through these trails without leaving a lingering trail. So it cannot be atmospheric conditions.
The trails behave more like a powder that float around.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Winston Smith on Mar 13th, 2014 at 12:12am

Richdude wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:56pm:
Hey Taipan - chin up old soul you have a healthy, courageous attitude.
I asked for a technical explanation and didn't get one. I have seen jets fly through these trails without leaving a lingering trail. So it cannot be atmospheric conditions.
The trails behave more like a powder that float around.


Yes he does.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 13th, 2014 at 8:42am

Richdude wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:56pm:
Hey Taipan - chin up old soul you have a healthy, courageous attitude.
I asked for a technical explanation and didn't get one. I have seen jets fly through these trails without leaving a lingering trail. So it cannot be atmospheric conditions.
The trails behave more like a powder that float around.



Who knows, I can't judge anecdotes.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 13th, 2014 at 11:09am

Richdude wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:56pm:

I asked for a technical explanation and didn't get one.


Yes you did. Try reading reply #42


Richdude wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:56pm:

I have seen jets fly through these trails without leaving a lingering trail. So it cannot be atmospheric conditions.


If you are on the ground how can you know that jets flew through the trails? It is far more likely that they flew either above or below the trails where the air conditions were different.



Richdude wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 11:56pm:

The trails behave more like a powder that float around.


How would you know how powder behaves in the upper atmosphere?
The trails actually behave exactly how you would expect ice crystals and water droplets to behave.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Winston Smith on Mar 13th, 2014 at 4:00pm
I have known about contrails since my interest in WW2 aviation in the late 80's as a preteen child. It seemed reasonable to me then, I haven't questioned it since.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Richdude on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:06am
Oh Yeah.
As a former pilot and engineer I am more qualified to talk about this than most.
Look up Ted L. Gunderson on youtube.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Mar 14th, 2014 at 5:47am

Sophia wrote on Mar 12th, 2014 at 8:36pm:
Yes Pastaf, there are some natural occuring elements, not saying that it can't be good or bad, after all, even a snake bite is natural, but not good for you.
BTW, I have a cook book for cyanide, quite harmless and natural and beneficial, if you want, I can post some recipes up 8-)

Now, to FriYAY...


Quote:
Was you friend there when the TV was spying on you?


I think you missed a valid point when I discussed this in another thread....I said it was a 'smart' tv....it's like a computer, runs off the wireless modem, and can go online, watch youtube and many other things, as a usual laptop, tablet, smart phone, or computer can do...get it...smart tv?

So what's to say, it cannot be hacked....after all, many do hack into smart phones and computers, accessing banking information. Happens all the time, oh, and web cams can be accessed by those that have the know how also.

Do you find that hard to believe?

Now, back on topic, I have gone back over this whole thread and doing some information gathering, then going out into cyberspace to hunt for more information, and have found some links for perusal. Very interesting what  Kristen Meghan has to say.
Then please do come and comment with some further information, or valid points for thoughtful discussion, after all, isn't that what a 'discussion forum' is supposed to be about  :)


http://artzgirl.hubpages.com/hub/Chemtrail-BREAKTHROUGH-January-2013

Please, also, read this following, and remark on this also.

http://rense.com/general79/chem.htm




So you decided to ignore my quite reasonable questions?


Blurting out hysterical bullsh1t under and oversized foil hat is more your speed, then that is how you will be treated.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:18am

Richdude wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:06am:
Oh Yeah.
As a former pilot and engineer I am more qualified to talk about this than most.


Well then provide us with some actual hard evidence.




Richdude wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:06am:

Look up Ted L. Gunderson on youtube.



Quote:
Gunderson warned about the proliferation of secret Satanic groups, and the danger posed by the New World Order, a shadow government that would be controlling the US government. He also claimed that a "slave auction" in which children were sold to men in turbans had been held in Las Vegas, that four thousand ritual human sacrifices are performed in New York City every year, and that the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was carried out by the US government. Gunderson believed that in the US there is a secret widespread network of groups who kidnap children and infants, and subject them to Satanic ritual abuse and subsequent human sacrifice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson


So this guy was a paranoid nut case too. Doesn't prove a lot.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 14th, 2014 at 10:25am
Chemtrail Information


http://www.rense.com/general82/chemit.htm

http://www.chemtrailsproject.com/

http://www.chemtrailsprojectuk.com/


http://www.viewzone.com/chemtrails.html

http://www.chemtrailaustraliainternational.com/

UN Weather Weapons Treaty 1976

http://arcticbeacon.com/books/UN_1976_Weather_Weapon_Treaty.pdf


http://wearechange.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/weather-warfare-treaty/


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:14pm
Geoengineering Whistleblower ~ Ex-Military ~ Kristen Meghan -- talks about chemtrails.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHm0XhtDyZA

People like this don't get up and give public talks for nothing.

She's genuine, its not hard to see.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:24pm
http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/


::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Winston Smith on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:30pm
I'm not discounting the possibility that chemtrails are real, but there's no real evidence. As convincing as they may sound, YouTube monologues do not constitute evidence.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am

FriYAY wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/


::)


Obviously you missed the part that says "UN Weather Weapons Treaty."

You see a sane person would ask the question "Why is there such a treaty?"

If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".

You leftards are always quick to evoke the un refugee convention which tells me you actually believe in the UN and what comes out of it so I figured you'd be interested in knowing they have a treaty on weather weapons and weather warfare. But I sometimes forget that im dealing with mentally ill people when dealing with the left. Oh well.

Oh and btw, chemtrails are a type of weather weapon just in case you're unable to put two and two together.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:42am

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:
Obviously you missed the part that says "UN Weather Weapons Treaty."


Well there is no "UN Weather Weapons Treaty". You must be referring to the  Environmental Modification Convention of 1977. It prohibits the use of any environmental or geophysical modification activity as a weapon of war. This Treaty covers a broad range of environmental modifications.


Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:
You see a sane person would ask the question "Why is there such a treaty?"

If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".


Any sane person wouldn't assume that a treaty was evidence that these so called weapons are being used.
Its a bit like saying that because there is a nuclear weapons treaty that this is evidence that nuclear weapons are being used on the general population.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:09am

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 9:42am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:
Obviously you missed the part that says "UN Weather Weapons Treaty."


Well there is no "UN Weather Weapons Treaty". You must be referring to the  Environmental Modification Convention of 1977. It prohibits the use of any environmental or geophysical modification activity as a weapon of war. This Treaty covers a broad range of environmental modifications.


Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:
You see a sane person would ask the question "Why is there such a treaty?"

If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".


Any sane person wouldn't assume that a treaty was evidence that these so called weapons are being used.
Its a bit like saying that because there is a nuclear weapons treaty that this is evidence that nuclear weapons are being used on the general population.


Well if you're going to be pedantic about it I actually didn't say they are being used in my post that you quoted, I said
If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".


But you are wrong though. A sane person isn't dumb enough to assume that they aren't being used and not even ponder on the question of wether or not they are being used.

Indoctrinated people are not sane. They might not appear to be crazy people but that doesn't mean they are sane.
You have lived your life among such people and have also received the same indoctrination as everyone else so you can be forgiven for having a somewhat flawed view on what sanity is.

When you have a non-governmental organisation come into being calling itself the united nations and start acting as though it is a global authority and everyone just accepts it then that's a good indication that most people are not sane.

Furthermore, the treaty may be called the   The United Nations CONVENTION ON THE PROHIBITION OF MILITARY OR ANY OTHER HOSTILE USE OF ENVIRONMENTAL MODIFICATION TECHNIQUES, but it is also known as the UN Weather Weapons Treaty 1976.

But in that treaty they state that it is against 'international law' for countries to use weather warfare against other countries BUT it says nothing about governments using weather warfare on its own people.




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:22am
I looked outside and there's a ton of chemtrails in the sky over the south of Sydney. They would have been laid down about an hour ago, just outside the metropolitan area, as they have spread out and look somewhat like clouds but with that stringy messy look and some of the trail is still visible.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:58am
You should post a photo of them

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:17pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 9:18am:

Richdude wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:06am:
Oh Yeah.
As a former pilot and engineer I am more qualified to talk about this than most.


Well then provide us with some actual hard evidence.




Richdude wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:06am:

Look up Ted L. Gunderson on youtube.



Quote:
Gunderson warned about the proliferation of secret Satanic groups, and the danger posed by the New World Order, a shadow government that would be controlling the US government. He also claimed that a "slave auction" in which children were sold to men in turbans had been held in Las Vegas, that four thousand ritual human sacrifices are performed in New York City every year, and that the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was carried out by the US government. Gunderson believed that in the US there is a secret widespread network of groups who kidnap children and infants, and subject them to Satanic ritual abuse and subsequent human sacrifice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson


So this guy was a paranoid nut case too. Doesn't prove a lot.


Heres evidence --

The woman named  Kristen Meghan, an Ex-Military, former Air Force Sr. Industrial Hygienist/Environmental Specialist tells how she did tests on the air, which she has the authority to do in her position because thats what her job entails, and she discovered high level of contaminants, i.e. strontium, barium, aluminium in the form of oxides and phosphates, in the samples.

She set out to debunk chemtrails and did the research and she did it professionally because she is in fact a professional. She discovered she COULD NOT DEBUNK IT.

This IS evidence. And theres plenty of vids of this woman exposing the truth about chemtrails. This woman is putting her life on the line btw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHm0XhtDyZA





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 15th, 2014 at 3:19pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/


::)


That's a disinformation site run by a government shill as said by Kristen Meghan an Ex-Military, former Air Force Sr. Industrial Hygienist/Environmental Specialist. Her job was Air Force Specialty Code (AFSC) was 4BOX1, Bio-environmental Engineer.

You idiot.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Mar 15th, 2014 at 4:47pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:22am:
I looked outside and there's a ton of chemtrails in the sky over the south of Sydney. They would have been laid down about an hour ago, just outside the metropolitan area, as they have spread out and look somewhat like clouds but with that stringy messy look and some of the trail is still visible.



Laid down by whom?



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:47am

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 4:47pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:22am:
I looked outside and there's a ton of chemtrails in the sky over the south of Sydney. They would have been laid down about an hour ago, just outside the metropolitan area, as they have spread out and look somewhat like clouds but with that stringy messy look and some of the trail is still visible.



Laid down by whom?


Probably the government. In the US its the US military that are laying down the trails over major population centres.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Mar 16th, 2014 at 10:43am

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 9:47am:

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 4:47pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 10:22am:
I looked outside and there's a ton of chemtrails in the sky over the south of Sydney. They would have been laid down about an hour ago, just outside the metropolitan area, as they have spread out and look somewhat like clouds but with that stringy messy look and some of the trail is still visible.



Laid down by whom?


Probably the government. In the US its the US military that are laying down the trails over major population centres.



So are you saying the RAAF is spraying airbourne chemicals from thier wing tips over sydney?

To what end?

And how long has the RAAF been doing this?



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:22pm
I doubt its the RAAF. I don't know exactly who the pilots are or if its a company or what, its irrelevant. The fact is the Elite are responsible for the all the spraying that's going on around the world because they are the ones who have the power and money to do it and also because its part of their depopulation plan which factors heavily into their big agenda.

Its happening under the guise of 'geo-engineering' so you might wanna look it up and see what organisations are involved.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:38pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
I doubt its the RAAF. I don't know exactly who the pilots are or if its a company or what, its irrelevant. The fact is the Elite are responsible for the all the spraying that's going on around the world because they are the ones who have the power and money to do it and also because its part of their depopulation plan which factors heavily into their big agenda.

Its happening under the guise of 'geo-engineering' so you might wanna look it up and see what organisations are involved.



Actually the 'who' is extremely important, it goes to the why and the unltimately the who is giving the orders.

So I would expend my efforts into finding out who is doing the dispersing and what they are dispersing; then the why they are dispersing.

I can assure you it isn't the RAAF, but what ever you do for valid research will eventiually tell you that.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:51pm

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:38pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
I doubt its the RAAF. I don't know exactly who the pilots are or if its a company or what, its irrelevant. The fact is the Elite are responsible for the all the spraying that's going on around the world because they are the ones who have the power and money to do it and also because its part of their depopulation plan which factors heavily into their big agenda.

Its happening under the guise of 'geo-engineering' so you might wanna look it up and see what organisations are involved.



Actually the 'who' is extremely important, it goes to the why and the unltimately the who is giving the orders.

So I would expend my efforts into finding out who is doing the dispersing and what they are dispersing; then the why they are dispersing.

I can assure you it isn't the RAAF, but what ever you do for valid research will eventiually tell you that.


The orders come from the top. The Elite plan things out meticulously. They have meeting after meeting after meeting before they take any actions and NEVER take action until they are 100% certain that what they are doing is going to work.

As to the 'why' well you have to understand that the Elite truly believe they are the crème of the crop that humanity has to offer. They believe they have evolved in such a way that they are now an entirely different species of human being to the rest of us and they therefore have the 'right' to rule.

They believe in survival of the fittest and "Might is Right" and they also believe that "he who will kill is superior."
The first scenes of the movie 2001:A Space Odyssey shows you their belief that might is right. Actually that movie contains a lot of their beliefs and philosophy.

They have made plans and they are carrying them out and part of that plan is to destroy a large part of the population of the world so that when their Utopia is in place they will have the slaves they need for their nwo-society and will have eliminated all opposition to their plans.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:43am

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/


::)


Obviously you missed the part that says "UN Weather Weapons Treaty."

You see a sane person would ask the question "Why is there such a treaty?"

If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".

You leftards are always quick to evoke the un refugee convention which tells me you actually believe in the UN and what comes out of it so I figured you'd be interested in knowing they have a treaty on weather weapons and weather warfare. But I sometimes forget that im dealing with mentally ill people when dealing with the left. Oh well.

Oh and btw, chemtrails are a type of weather weapon just in case you're unable to put two and two together.



Leftard!!!! Well that's a first! :o

We should dump the UN convention on refugees. :)



Now that your little tanty rant has been dealt with..... :-*

Show me how many people have been killed by chemtrails being used as weapons. :-?

::)


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:45am

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
I doubt its the RAAF. I don't know exactly who the pilots are or if its a company or what, its irrelevant. The fact is the Elite are responsible for the all the spraying that's going on around the world because they are the ones who have the power and money to do it and also because its part of their depopulation plan which factors heavily into their big agenda.

Its happening under the guise of 'geo-engineering' so you might wanna look it up and see what organisations are involved.


LOL

Just so LOL.

You better stay inside man.


::) :P ::) :P ::) :P :D :D :D :D :P ::) ::) ::) :P :P ::) :P :P :-X :-X

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Richdude on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:20am

FriYAY wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
I doubt its the RAAF. I don't know exactly who the pilots are or if its a company or what, its irrelevant. The fact is the Elite are responsible for the all the spraying that's going on around the world because they are the ones who have the power and money to do it and also because its part of their depopulation plan which factors heavily into their big agenda.

Its happening under the guise of 'geo-engineering' so you might wanna look it up and see what organisations are involved.


LOL

Just so LOL.

You better stay inside man.

Friyar
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Actually there is a 4th stage "I knew it all along" LOL!
Your at the first stage and that's OK. Just don't be so boooring.



::) :P ::) :P ::) :P :D :D :D :D :P ::) ::) ::) :P :P ::) :P :P :-X :-X


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by FriYAY on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:38am

Richdude wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:20am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
I doubt its the RAAF. I don't know exactly who the pilots are or if its a company or what, its irrelevant. The fact is the Elite are responsible for the all the spraying that's going on around the world because they are the ones who have the power and money to do it and also because its part of their depopulation plan which factors heavily into their big agenda.

Its happening under the guise of 'geo-engineering' so you might wanna look it up and see what organisations are involved.


LOL

Just so LOL.

You better stay inside man.

Friyar
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Actually there is a 4th stage "I knew it all along" LOL!
Your at the first stage and that's OK. Just don't be so boooring.



::) :P ::) :P ::) :P :D :D :D :D :P ::) ::) ::) :P :P ::) :P :P :-X :-X


Oh dear, you better stay inside as well. ::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:44am

Richdude wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:20am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
I doubt its the RAAF. I don't know exactly who the pilots are or if its a company or what, its irrelevant. The fact is the Elite are responsible for the all the spraying that's going on around the world because they are the ones who have the power and money to do it and also because its part of their depopulation plan which factors heavily into their big agenda.

Its happening under the guise of 'geo-engineering' so you might wanna look it up and see what organisations are involved.


LOL

Just so LOL.

You better stay inside man.


Friyar
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Actually there is a 4th stage "I knew it all along" LOL!
Your at the first stage and that's OK. Just don't be so boooring.



::) :P ::) :P ::) :P :D :D :D :D :P ::) ::) ::) :P :P ::) :P :P :-X :-X


Richdude, there is no truth in chemtrails. It is all just conspiracy theory paranoia.

Nothing that Taipan has provided is convincing in any way. Don't forget that if an extraordinary claim is made (and a secret government conspiracy to spray the population is quite extraordinary) then it needs to be backed up by extraordinary evidence.
Even Kristen Meghan whom Taipan offered as "evidence". When I searched her name it did not appear in any regular or reliable website, only the chemtrails conspiracy theory websites which we have already debunked as extremely unreliable earlier in this thread.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Oh_Yeah on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:48am

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:51pm:
you have to understand that the Elite truly believe they are the crème of the crop that humanity has to offer. They believe they have evolved in such a way that they are now an entirely different species of human being to the rest of us and they therefore have the 'right' to rule.

They believe in survival of the fittest and "Might is Right" and they also believe that "he who will kill is superior."
The first scenes of the movie 2001:A Space Odyssey shows you their belief that might is right. Actually that movie contains a lot of their beliefs and philosophy.

They have made plans and they are carrying them out and part of that plan is to destroy a large part of the population of the world so that when their Utopia is in place they will have the slaves they need for their nwo-society and will have eliminated all opposition to their plans.


Would any rational balanced person believe this sort of nonsense?

::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:16pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:44am:

Richdude wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:20am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:45am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:22pm:
I doubt its the RAAF. I don't know exactly who the pilots are or if its a company or what, its irrelevant. The fact is the Elite are responsible for the all the spraying that's going on around the world because they are the ones who have the power and money to do it and also because its part of their depopulation plan which factors heavily into their big agenda.

Its happening under the guise of 'geo-engineering' so you might wanna look it up and see what organisations are involved.


LOL

Just so LOL.

You better stay inside man.


Friyar
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Actually there is a 4th stage "I knew it all along" LOL!
Your at the first stage and that's OK. Just don't be so boooring.



::) :P ::) :P ::) :P :D :D :D :D :P ::) ::) ::) :P :P ::) :P :P :-X :-X


Richdude, there is no truth in chemtrails. It is all just conspiracy theory paranoia.

Nothing that Taipan has provided is convincing in any way. Don't forget that if an extraordinary claim is made (and a secret government conspiracy to spray the population is quite extraordinary) then it needs to be backed up by extraordinary evidence.
Even Kristen Meghan whom Taipan offered as "evidence". When I searched her name it did not appear in any regular or reliable website, only the chemtrails conspiracy theory websites which we have already debunked as extremely unreliable earlier in this thread.


You haven't debunked anything.

If you cant understand how Kristen Megan through her own testing of the chemtrails, as a professional in the US military, proves the existence of chemtrails then you don't seem to understand the concept of evidence.

If the group involved is steeped in secrecy then its understandable that finding evidence is difficult but in any case we now have evidence thanks to Kristen who is putting her life on the line by revealing the truth about chemtrails.

By choosing to be in denial and spreading lies and keeping people in the dark you become part of the problem.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:22pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:16pm:
You haven't debunked anything.

If you cant understand how Kristen Megan through her own testing of the chemtrails, as a professional in the US military, proves the existence of chemtrails then you don't seem to understand the concept of evidence.

If the group involved is steeped in secrecy then its understandable that finding evidence is difficult but in any case we now have evidence thanks to Kristen who is putting her life on the line by revealing the truth about chemtrails.

By choosing to be in denial and spreading lies and keeping people in the dark you become part of the problem.



Mmmm, what was the methodology for testing?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:25pm
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kristen-meghan-former-us-air-force-whistle-blower.1066/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:30pm

FriYAY wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:43am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/


::)


Obviously you missed the part that says "UN Weather Weapons Treaty."

You see a sane person would ask the question "Why is there such a treaty?"

If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".

You leftards are always quick to evoke the un refugee convention which tells me you actually believe in the UN and what comes out of it so I figured you'd be interested in knowing they have a treaty on weather weapons and weather warfare. But I sometimes forget that im dealing with mentally ill people when dealing with the left. Oh well.

Oh and btw, chemtrails are a type of weather weapon just in case you're unable to put two and two together.



Leftard!!!! Well that's a first! :o

We should dump the UN convention on refugees. :)



Now that your little tanty rant has been dealt with..... :-*

Show me how many people have been killed by chemtrails being used as weapons. :-?

::)


People don't just drop dead from a couple of breaths and its impossible to tell exactly what the number is due to the fact people also die from the combination of the chemicals in foods and in vaccinations which act in the long term. Although there are people who end up with autism not long, i.e. a couple of years, after having been vaccinated.

But its not so much the aim of killing people that's the biggest problem from chemtrails. Its the affect they have on the brain. It inhibits peoples ability to think properly and contributes to the dumbing down process. Alzheimer's is another nasty effect of the trails. Its a known fact that Alzheimer's sufferers have an unusually high aluminium content in the brain and people do die from Alzheimer's.


Then theres the "dimming" effect and the warming effect on the environment. Theres also ecological problems caused by the trails.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:34pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:25pm:
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/kristen-meghan-former-us-air-force-whistle-blower.1066/


Kristen has already said that the website you have cited above is run by a government shill whose job is to provide disinformation. She mentions that website in the video I posted.

Another thing, if you guys cant tell when a person is being genuine then obviously you are never going to know the truth. But I'm sure that's just fine with you guys who enjoy living in ignorant bliss.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:36pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:30pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:43am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/


::)


Obviously you missed the part that says "UN Weather Weapons Treaty."

You see a sane person would ask the question "Why is there such a treaty?"

If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".

You leftards are always quick to evoke the un refugee convention which tells me you actually believe in the UN and what comes out of it so I figured you'd be interested in knowing they have a treaty on weather weapons and weather warfare. But I sometimes forget that im dealing with mentally ill people when dealing with the left. Oh well.

Oh and btw, chemtrails are a type of weather weapon just in case you're unable to put two and two together.



Leftard!!!! Well that's a first! :o

We should dump the UN convention on refugees. :)



Now that your little tanty rant has been dealt with..... :-*

Show me how many people have been killed by chemtrails being used as weapons. :-?

::)


People don't just drop dead from a couple of breaths and its impossible to tell exactly what the number is due to the fact people also die from the combination of the chemicals in foods and in vaccinations which act in the long term. Although there are people who end up with autism not long, i.e. a couple of years, after having been vaccinated.

But its not so much the aim of killing people that's the biggest problem from chemtrails. Its the affect they have on the brain. It inhibits peoples ability to think properly and contributes to the dumbing down process. Alzheimer's is another nasty effect of the trails. Its a known fact that Alzheimer's sufferers have an unusually high aluminium content in the brain and people do die from Alzheimer's.


Then theres the "dimming" effect and the warming effect on the environment. Theres also ecological problems caused by the trails.



Could you show the evidence about the vaccinations please?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:36pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:48am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:51pm:
you have to understand that the Elite truly believe they are the crème of the crop that humanity has to offer. They believe they have evolved in such a way that they are now an entirely different species of human being to the rest of us and they therefore have the 'right' to rule.

They believe in survival of the fittest and "Might is Right" and they also believe that "he who will kill is superior."
The first scenes of the movie 2001:A Space Odyssey shows you their belief that might is right. Actually that movie contains a lot of their beliefs and philosophy.

They have made plans and they are carrying them out and part of that plan is to destroy a large part of the population of the world so that when their Utopia is in place they will have the slaves they need for their nwo-society and will have eliminated all opposition to their plans.


Would any rational balanced person believe this sort of nonsense?

::)


Nonsense? I suppose you think the Georgia guide stones
are made out of papier-mâché.
http://prof77.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/georgia-guidestones-top-commandments.jpg

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:37pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:34pm:
Kristen has already said that the website you have cited above is run by a government shill whose job is to provide disinformation. She mentions that website in the video I posted.

Another thing, if you guys cant tell when a person is being genuine then obviously you are never going to know the truth. But I'm sure that's just fine with you guys who enjoy living in ignorant bliss.

Ahhh the easiest excuse in the book. Don't bother proving that any detractors are wrong, just say they are shills and let the nutballs do the job for you.

Sorry, science doesnt work that way.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:38pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:30pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:43am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/


::)


Obviously you missed the part that says "UN Weather Weapons Treaty."

You see a sane person would ask the question "Why is there such a treaty?"

If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".

You leftards are always quick to evoke the un refugee convention which tells me you actually believe in the UN and what comes out of it so I figured you'd be interested in knowing they have a treaty on weather weapons and weather warfare. But I sometimes forget that im dealing with mentally ill people when dealing with the left. Oh well.

Oh and btw, chemtrails are a type of weather weapon just in case you're unable to put two and two together.



Leftard!!!! Well that's a first! :o

We should dump the UN convention on refugees. :)



Now that your little tanty rant has been dealt with..... :-*

Show me how many people have been killed by chemtrails being used as weapons. :-?

::)


People don't just drop dead from a couple of breaths and its impossible to tell exactly what the number is due to the fact people also die from the combination of the chemicals in foods and in vaccinations which act in the long term. Although there are people who end up with autism not long, i.e. a couple of years, after having been vaccinated.

But its not so much the aim of killing people that's the biggest problem from chemtrails. Its the affect they have on the brain. It inhibits peoples ability to think properly and contributes to the dumbing down process. Alzheimer's is another nasty effect of the trails. Its a known fact that Alzheimer's sufferers have an unusually high aluminium content in the brain and people do die from Alzheimer's.


Then theres the "dimming" effect and the warming effect on the environment. Theres also ecological problems caused by the trails.



Could you show the evidence about the vaccinations please?


What's the point? I've provided you with evidence of chemtrails and you still don't believe.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:38pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:38pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:36pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:30pm:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:43am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/


::)


Obviously you missed the part that says "UN Weather Weapons Treaty."

You see a sane person would ask the question "Why is there such a treaty?"

If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".

You leftards are always quick to evoke the un refugee convention which tells me you actually believe in the UN and what comes out of it so I figured you'd be interested in knowing they have a treaty on weather weapons and weather warfare. But I sometimes forget that im dealing with mentally ill people when dealing with the left. Oh well.

Oh and btw, chemtrails are a type of weather weapon just in case you're unable to put two and two together.



Leftard!!!! Well that's a first! :o

We should dump the UN convention on refugees. :)



Now that your little tanty rant has been dealt with..... :-*

Show me how many people have been killed by chemtrails being used as weapons. :-?

::)


People don't just drop dead from a couple of breaths and its impossible to tell exactly what the number is due to the fact people also die from the combination of the chemicals in foods and in vaccinations which act in the long term. Although there are people who end up with autism not long, i.e. a couple of years, after having been vaccinated.

But its not so much the aim of killing people that's the biggest problem from chemtrails. Its the affect they have on the brain. It inhibits peoples ability to think properly and contributes to the dumbing down process. Alzheimer's is another nasty effect of the trails. Its a known fact that Alzheimer's sufferers have an unusually high aluminium content in the brain and people do die from Alzheimer's.


Then theres the "dimming" effect and the warming effect on the environment. Theres also ecological problems caused by the trails.



Could you show the evidence about the vaccinations please?


What's the point? I've provided you with evidence of chemtrails and you still don't believe.



No i've pointed out why the "evidence" you've provided doesn't count as evidence.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:40pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:34pm:
Kristen has already said that the website you have cited above is run by a government shill whose job is to provide disinformation. She mentions that website in the video I posted.

Another thing, if you guys cant tell when a person is being genuine then obviously you are never going to know the truth. But I'm sure that's just fine with you guys who enjoy living in ignorant bliss.

Ahhh the easiest excuse in the book. Don't bother proving that any detractors are wrong, just say they are shills and let the nutballs do the job for you.

Sorry, science doesnt work that way.


Keep living in denial, I know it benefits you but it does no good for the rest of us.

I provided evidence and still you choose to duck and weave.

There's plenty of information on this stuff on the net and the trails have been getting sprayed over Sydney and all other population centres across the world for over ten years now. The whole NWO agenda has been on the go for centuries and even with the aid of the internet you still don't know what's happening!

You're too far gone, you cant be helped.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:40pm
many blessings ,

you do not have to convince any dupe

upon the factual existence of chemtrails

or conspiracy optimism ..

those with eyes do not see for a reason

this is fundamental logic



namaste

- : ) = +

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Richdude on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:42pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:48am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:51pm:
you have to understand that the Elite truly believe they are the crème of the crop that humanity has to offer. They believe they have evolved in such a way that they are now an entirely different species of human being to the rest of us and they therefore have the 'right' to rule.

They believe in survival of the fittest and "Might is Right" and they also believe that "he who will kill is superior."
The first scenes of the movie 2001:A Space Odyssey shows you their belief that might is right. Actually that movie contains a lot of their beliefs and philosophy.

They have made plans and they are carrying them out and part of that plan is to destroy a large part of the population of the world so that when their Utopia is in place they will have the slaves they need for their nwo-society and will have eliminated all opposition to their plans.


Would any rational balanced person believe this sort of nonsense?

::)


I respect people who stand up for what they believe and their right to say it. After all isn't free speech what Australians in WW1 and WW2 fought for?
Many years ago your "crazies" said that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged. That the Federal Reserve was privately owned and that 9/11 had US Gov involvement. Conspiracy theorists have a habit of being proved right over time. So are they really crazy?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:42pm
In 2008, samples around California's Lake Shasta and the Pit River Arm tributary were tested in a State Certified Lab following weeks of fly-overs and chemtrails. The results of the water samples showed 4,610,000 parts per million of aluminum -- 4610 times the maximum contaminant level! [6]

At another pond, filled with filtered water and confirmed to contain "0" aluminum, test revealed 375,000 parts per million of aluminum (375 times the maximum contaminant level) after only 18 months exposure to the aerial spraying.



I mean lets just examine this from one of the links you posted.


As someone else pointed out you can't have 4,610,000 parts per million of aluminum. Otherwise you'd be inventing matter.

Secondly, theres no mention of where the State Certified Lab is, what the protocol for measuring, sampling, verifying the results are. This is pseudoscience of the highest order. To publish a proper peer-reviewed article, you have to not only describe your results, you have to describe your methodology. None of which is present here.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:44pm

Richdude wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:42pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 10:48am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 16th, 2014 at 12:51pm:
you have to understand that the Elite truly believe they are the crème of the crop that humanity has to offer. They believe they have evolved in such a way that they are now an entirely different species of human being to the rest of us and they therefore have the 'right' to rule.

They believe in survival of the fittest and "Might is Right" and they also believe that "he who will kill is superior."
The first scenes of the movie 2001:A Space Odyssey shows you their belief that might is right. Actually that movie contains a lot of their beliefs and philosophy.

They have made plans and they are carrying them out and part of that plan is to destroy a large part of the population of the world so that when their Utopia is in place they will have the slaves they need for their nwo-society and will have eliminated all opposition to their plans.


Would any rational balanced person believe this sort of nonsense?

::)


I respect people who stand up for what they believe and their right to say it. After all isn't free speech what Australians in WW1 and WW2 fought for?
Many years ago your "crazies" said that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was staged. That the Federal Reserve was privately owned and that 9/11 had US Gov involvement. Conspiracy theorists have a habit of being proved right over time. So are they really crazy?




The confusion isn't about conspiiracy theorists being right or wrong. Its about what they use to show the "theory". In th case of 9/11 its a bunch of shoddy fuzzy videotapes and poor "nanothermite" analysis.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:44pm
In 2008, samples around California's Lake Shasta and the Pit River Arm tributary were tested in a State Certified Lab following weeks of fly-overs and chemtrails. The results of the water samples showed 4,610,000 parts per million of aluminum -- 4610 times the maximum contaminant level! [6]

__________

this is so for a reason

of which clearly you cannot grasp



this matters not for this biosphere

yet it does for you

so be it

namaste

- : ) = +




/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:46pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:44pm:
In 2008, samples around California's Lake Shasta and the Pit River Arm tributary were tested in a State Certified Lab following weeks of fly-overs and chemtrails. The results of the water samples showed 4,610,000 parts per million of aluminum -- 4610 times the maximum contaminant level! [6]

__________

this is so for a reason

of which clearly you cannot grasp



this matters not for this biosphere

yet it does for you

so be it

namaste

- : ) = +




/




Really? You're going with incredulity?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:49pm
many blessings ,

well of and in due course it does matter

for ones such as you are

do you deny this fact?

the planet will evolve without darkness

for that is why we arrived here

in love and divine light



you are welcome

namaste

- : ) = +

l>

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:52pm
Ignoring it is the light, lets go with this other statement   from http://www.viewzone.com/chemad.jpg


A pond in Shasta County tested 0 for aluminium when filled


but after a year tested at 375 times the maximum contaminant level for Aluminium in California.


Again several issues
1. No mention of how it was tested
2. No mention of excluding possible geologic contamination
3. No mention of the fact that the level is only for drinking water, not water in general.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:55pm
Ignoring it is the light, lets go with this other statement

_____________

forgiven ...

yet no rebuttal from you speaks volumes

truth is the maxim of law ..

and so it is



namaste

- : ) = +



/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by aquascoot on Mar 18th, 2014 at 1:31pm
light, i am surprised to see you concerned about chemtrails.
you dont usually buy into these conspiracy theories.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 18th, 2014 at 1:59pm

aquascoot wrote on Mar 18th, 2014 at 1:31pm:
light, i am surprised to see you concerned about chemtrails.
you dont usually buy into these conspiracy theories.



Really? TO me he buys into the biggest pseudoscientific drivel he can

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Frances on Mar 18th, 2014 at 2:14pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:40pm:
The whole NWO agenda has been on the go for centuries


Well, it's hardly new then, is it?

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 18th, 2014 at 2:22pm

Frances wrote on Mar 18th, 2014 at 2:14pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:40pm:
The whole NWO agenda has been on the go for centuries


Well, it's hardly new then, is it?




And if its so insidious why has it failed after centuries after trying?


INcompetence.

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Taipan on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 18th, 2014 at 2:22pm:

Frances wrote on Mar 18th, 2014 at 2:14pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 1:40pm:
The whole NWO agenda has been on the go for centuries


Well, it's hardly new then, is it?




And if its so insidious why has it failed after centuries after trying?


INcompetence.


This last 'try' began during the late 1700s when they got their act together by combining their forces under the umbrella of freemasonry, the lodges of which became unified and organised due to the actions of a small group of people who were at that time called the Order of the Illuminati.

This was in the works since 1717 when the black nobility took power in England through the actions of William of Orange. It was from 1717 onwards that England had always had German kings and queens. They didn't even speak English until many years later, they were speaking the old German or Saxon language. Most people know today that the Queen of Englands last name is actually Saxe-Coburg-Gotha not Windsor. Essentially she is of German decent.

Its these so-called 'Bavarian Illuminati'(i.e. black nobility) types that seem to have kicked the whole thing off.

So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:12pm
So slow, lazy and incompetent, colour me worried.

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Frances on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Setanta on Mar 19th, 2014 at 11:53pm

Frances wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....


If you read some of these people like Taipan, I've already brought this up with him, the illuminati goes back to the Sumerian civilisation. 7,500 years ago. They're pretty incompetent lot.

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Taipan on Mar 20th, 2014 at 8:55am

Frances wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....


Its done by deception and they are leading us down the garden path.
You will love the society they give to you and the next generation will be indoctrinated to love their servitude in society.

This time round they have science and the methods and techniques they are using are all based on scientific research. Human Beings are in fact the most studied species on the planet. They know us far more than we will ever know them. And the best way to know them and their nature is to learn about psychopathy. They are predators and they're proud of it. We, of course, are the prey.

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:27am

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 8:55am:

Frances wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....


Its done by deception and they are leading us down the garden path.
You will love the society they give to you and the next generation will be indoctrinated to love their servitude in society.

This time round they have science and the methods and techniques they are using are all based on scientific research. Human Beings are in fact the most studied species on the planet. They know us far more than we will ever know them. And the best way to know them and their nature is to learn about psychopathy. They are predators and they're proud of it. We, of course, are the prey.



I'm beginning really to worry about your mental health in a beyond blue kind of way Taipan.

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Taipan on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:47am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:27am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 8:55am:

Frances wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....


Its done by deception and they are leading us down the garden path.
You will love the society they give to you and the next generation will be indoctrinated to love their servitude in society.

This time round they have science and the methods and techniques they are using are all based on scientific research. Human Beings are in fact the most studied species on the planet. They know us far more than we will ever know them. And the best way to know them and their nature is to learn about psychopathy. They are predators and they're proud of it. We, of course, are the prey.



I'm beginning really to worry about your mental health in a beyond blue kind of way Taipan.


You had best be worried about your own mental health. When the day comes that you actually wake up I don't think you will be able to handle the truth.


Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:50am

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:47am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:27am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 8:55am:

Frances wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....


Its done by deception and they are leading us down the garden path.
You will love the society they give to you and the next generation will be indoctrinated to love their servitude in society.

This time round they have science and the methods and techniques they are using are all based on scientific research. Human Beings are in fact the most studied species on the planet. They know us far more than we will ever know them. And the best way to know them and their nature is to learn about psychopathy. They are predators and they're proud of it. We, of course, are the prey.



I'm beginning really to worry about your mental health in a beyond blue kind of way Taipan.


You had best be worried about your own mental health. When the day comes that you actually wake up I don't think you will be able to handle the truth.




What? Holding down a job? Contributing meaningfully in society? Not spending money on al foil?



Title: Re: Epic Thread
Post by Taipan on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:55am

Setanta wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 11:53pm:

Frances wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....


If you read some of these people like Taipan, I've already brought this up with him, the illuminati goes back to the Sumerian civilisation. 7,500 years ago. They're pretty incompetent lot.


Did I say that?

Actually the whole 'mystery religion' thing goes back well before 7,500yrs.

The point is -- the situation where a group of powerful, intelligent psychopaths rules over the masses has always existed. It exists today but on a global scale. Its more efficient, more effective, more profitable and more lethal.
As time goes by it will become even more efficient and eventually the world will consist of only two types of people; the masters and their technologically advanced slaves. THAT is where all this is headed.

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Taipan on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:57am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:50am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:47am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:27am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 8:55am:

Frances wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....


Its done by deception and they are leading us down the garden path.
You will love the society they give to you and the next generation will be indoctrinated to love their servitude in society.

This time round they have science and the methods and techniques they are using are all based on scientific research. Human Beings are in fact the most studied species on the planet. They know us far more than we will ever know them. And the best way to know them and their nature is to learn about psychopathy. They are predators and they're proud of it. We, of course, are the prey.



I'm beginning really to worry about your mental health in a beyond blue kind of way Taipan.


You had best be worried about your own mental health. When the day comes that you actually wake up I don't think you will be able to handle the truth.




What? Holding down a job? Contributing meaningfully in society? Not spending money on al foil?



You have been told. You can never say you didn't know.

Title: Re: Epic Stupid Thread
Post by Pastafarian on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:59am

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:57am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:50am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:47am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:27am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 8:55am:

Frances wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....


Its done by deception and they are leading us down the garden path.
You will love the society they give to you and the next generation will be indoctrinated to love their servitude in society.

This time round they have science and the methods and techniques they are using are all based on scientific research. Human Beings are in fact the most studied species on the planet. They know us far more than we will ever know them. And the best way to know them and their nature is to learn about psychopathy. They are predators and they're proud of it. We, of course, are the prey.



I'm beginning really to worry about your mental health in a beyond blue kind of way Taipan.


You had best be worried about your own mental health. When the day comes that you actually wake up I don't think you will be able to handle the truth.




What? Holding down a job? Contributing meaningfully in society? Not spending money on al foil?



You have been told. You can never say you didn't know.




I know, I look forward to the betterment of society by our illumnati overlords.

Title: Re: Epic Thread
Post by Setanta on Mar 20th, 2014 at 10:15am

Taipan wrote on Mar 20th, 2014 at 9:55am:

Setanta wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 11:53pm:

Frances wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 8:37pm:

Taipan wrote on Mar 19th, 2014 at 6:23pm:
So the big agenda has been unfolding ever since.


Well, at this rate we won't have to worry about anything for a couple of thousand years....


If you read some of these people like Taipan, I've already brought this up with him, the illuminati goes back to the Sumerian civilisation. 7,500 years ago. They're pretty incompetent lot.


Did I say that?

Actually the whole 'mystery religion' thing goes back well before 7,500yrs.

The point is -- the situation where a group of powerful, intelligent psychopaths rules over the masses has always existed. It exists today but on a global scale. Its more efficient, more effective, more profitable and more lethal.
As time goes by it will become even more efficient and eventually the world will consist of only two types of people; the masters and their technologically advanced slaves. THAT is where all this is headed.


And who are promoting this ages old "mystery religion"? Isn't it the illuminati? I'm sure that's who you said were behind it, so you just said it again.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 19th, 2014 at 5:31am
http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/04/holy-crap-heres-your-sign-100-undeniable-proof-chemtrails-and-haarp-are-real-leaker-speaks-out-at-the-united-nations-meeting-2446068.html

Leaker Speaks Out At United Nations and You Wont Believe What She Said!!! Must See Video!
Thursday, April 17, 2014 21:55



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw


By now everyone has witnessed streaks of white trailing across the sky, stretching from horizon to horizon, ultimately turning the skies into a murky haze. We can no longer ignore the fact that our skies are being heavily polluted with aluminum, barium, lead, arsenic, chromium, cadmium, selenium, and silver.  All of which attribute to a host of health problems including: neurological effects, heart damage, eyesight issues, reproduction failures, immune system damage, gastrointestinal disorders, damaged kidney, damaged liver, hormonal problems, and more.

The truth is the government is spraying deadly chemtrails in hopes of population reduction. Furthermore they have been known to use chemtrails as biological testing agents on the populace; all while claiming they are nothing more than mere vapor.

We’ll now we have 100% undeniable evidence that chemtrails exist. The video below is of Rosalind Peterson, the president of Agriculture Defence Coalition. In it she address the United Nations on chemtrails, geoengineering, and weather modification (HAARP).

If you were a skeptic before, I can assure you, that you will not be after hearing what she has to say to the people in power….

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 19th, 2014 at 5:56am
Well there you go. Straight out of the UN. Now all the usual lefty deniers will have no excuse but to accept the reality of chemtrails.

I have been vindicated! ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 19th, 2014 at 6:06am

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 5:31am:
http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/04/holy-crap-heres-your-sign-100-undeniable-proof-chemtrails-and-haarp-are-real-leaker-speaks-out-at-the-united-nations-meeting-2446068.html

Leaker Speaks Out At United Nations and You Wont Believe What She Said!!! Must See Video!
Thursday, April 17, 2014 21:55



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw


By now everyone has witnessed streaks of white trailing across the sky, stretching from horizon to horizon, ultimately turning the skies into a murky haze. We can no longer ignore the fact that our skies are being heavily polluted with aluminum, barium, lead, arsenic, chromium, cadmium, selenium, and silver.  All of which attribute to a host of health problems including: neurological effects, heart damage, eyesight issues, reproduction failures, immune system damage, gastrointestinal disorders, damaged kidney, damaged liver, hormonal problems, and more.

The truth is the government is spraying deadly chemtrails in hopes of population reduction. Furthermore they have been known to use chemtrails as biological testing agents on the populace; all while claiming they are nothing more than mere vapor.

We’ll now we have 100% undeniable evidence that chemtrails exist. The video below is of Rosalind Peterson, the president of Agriculture Defence Coalition. In it she address the United Nations on chemtrails, geoengineering, and weather modification (HAARP).

If you were a skeptic before, I can assure you, that you will not be after hearing what she has to say to the people in power….


and so it is ,

Rosalind Peterson goes on further to say

that any global warming alarmists must take this

into account as these miscreants continue to terra form

your world and block the suns rays upon the surface of

your planet with aluminium , barium laced chemtrails...

many watch footy and bleat about their elected official

whom is paid off by the perpetrators

of this geo engineering

we continue to watch

in the divine light

namaste

- : ) =




/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:30am
How odd. Now that there is undeniable proof of chemtrails there are no replies.  ::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:26am

Taipan wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:30am:
How odd. Now that there is undeniable proof of chemtrails there are no replies.  ::)



yes very interesting indeed ...

Re: Epic Chemtrails
Reply #131 - Yesterday at 5:31am Quote  http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/04/holy-crap-heres-your-sign-100-undeni...

Leaker Speaks Out At United Nations and You Wont Believe What She Said!!! Must See Video!
Thursday, April 17, 2014 21:55


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw
 


By now everyone has witnessed streaks of white trailing across the sky, stretching from horizon to horizon, ultimately turning the skies into a murky haze. We can no longer ignore the fact that our skies are being heavily polluted with aluminum, barium, lead, arsenic, chromium, cadmium, selenium, and silver.  All of which attribute to a host of health problems including: neurological effects, heart damage, eyesight issues, reproduction failures, immune system damage, gastrointestinal disorders, damaged kidney, damaged liver, hormonal problems, and more.

The truth is the government is spraying deadly chemtrails in hopes of population reduction. Furthermore they have been known to use chemtrails as biological testing agents on the populace; all while claiming they are nothing more than mere vapor.

We’ll now we have 100% undeniable evidence that chemtrails exist. The video below is of Rosalind Peterson, the president of Agriculture Defence Coalition. In it she address the United Nations on chemtrails, geoengineering, and weather modification (HAARP).

If you were a skeptic before, I can assure you, that you will not be after hearing what she has to say to the people in power….

and so it is

namaste

- : ) =



/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 10:06am
Undeniable? Unlikely

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:14pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 10:06am:
Undeniable? Unlikely


Only if you have trouble dealing with facts as have been presented here in this thread.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:14pm
Oh and thanks for bumping up the thread.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 10:06am:
Undeniable? Unlikely


Only if you have trouble dealing with facts as have been presented here in this thread.




Where, havent seen anything more than badly formatted blogs and poorly produced Youtube videos.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:21pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:30am:
How odd. Now that there is undeniable proof of chemtrails there are no replies.  ::)


Now? It's an old video, 2007. She is not addressing the UN.


Quote:
This video of Rosalind Peterson at the UN in 2007 has been repurposed on social media as if it's something new. It's been posted with such headlines as "100% Proof!" and "Leaker Speaks Out At United Nations".

Firstly this was not Peterson addressing the UN. This was simply a conference on Climate Change organized by the UN, not an actual UN session.

http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/index.htm

The session she spoke at was titled "Coping With Climate Change: Best Land Use Practice"
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/Roundtable4.htm

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rosalind-peterson-leaker-addressing-un-about-chemtrails-and-geoengineering.3514/

edit: Don't take disinterest in as us being quiet because you have won a point, you haven't. It just gets tiresome talking to you people every time you have "new 100% evidence".

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:24pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:30am:
How odd. Now that there is undeniable proof of chemtrails there are no replies.  ::)


Now? It's an old video, 2007. She is not addressing the UN.


Quote:
This video of Rosalind Peterson at the UN in 2007 has been repurposed on social media as if it's something new. It's been posted with such headlines as "100% Proof!" and "Leaker Speaks Out At United Nations".

Firstly this was not Peterson addressing the UN. This was simply a conference on Climate Change organized by the UN, not an actual UN session.

http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/index.htm

The session she spoke at was titled "Coping With Climate Change: Best Land Use Practice"
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/Roundtable4.htm

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rosalind-peterson-leaker-addressing-un-about-chemtrails-and-geoengineering.3514/


Metabunk is owned and run by dis-information agents.

Try again.

And another thing, there are a sh_tload of chemtrails over Sydney today.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:26pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 10:06am:
Undeniable? Unlikely


Only if you have trouble dealing with facts as have been presented here in this thread.




Where, havent seen anything more than badly formatted blogs and poorly produced Youtube videos.


Now you're just lying. There's nothing wrong with the vid on Kristen Meaghan where she presents her case clearly and with facts!

Why are you lying?



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:26pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:24pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:30am:
How odd. Now that there is undeniable proof of chemtrails there are no replies.  ::)


Now? It's an old video, 2007. She is not addressing the UN.


Quote:
This video of Rosalind Peterson at the UN in 2007 has been repurposed on social media as if it's something new. It's been posted with such headlines as "100% Proof!" and "Leaker Speaks Out At United Nations".

Firstly this was not Peterson addressing the UN. This was simply a conference on Climate Change organized by the UN, not an actual UN session.

http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/index.htm

The session she spoke at was titled "Coping With Climate Change: Best Land Use Practice"
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/Roundtable4.htm

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rosalind-peterson-leaker-addressing-un-about-chemtrails-and-geoengineering.3514/


Metabunk is owned and run by dis-information agents.

Try again.

And another thing, there are a sh_tload of chemtrails over Sydney today.


Debunk them then! She is not addressing the UN. It's conference on climate change, that's a fact.

And Peterson later (in 2012) explained that she did not think there was any good evidence to show the trails were anything other than normal contrails:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOXt0BTOTN0

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:28pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:24pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:30am:
How odd. Now that there is undeniable proof of chemtrails there are no replies.  ::)


Now? It's an old video, 2007. She is not addressing the UN.


Quote:
This video of Rosalind Peterson at the UN in 2007 has been repurposed on social media as if it's something new. It's been posted with such headlines as "100% Proof!" and "Leaker Speaks Out At United Nations".

Firstly this was not Peterson addressing the UN. This was simply a conference on Climate Change organized by the UN, not an actual UN session.

http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/index.htm

The session she spoke at was titled "Coping With Climate Change: Best Land Use Practice"
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/Roundtable4.htm

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rosalind-peterson-leaker-addressing-un-about-chemtrails-and-geoengineering.3514/


Metabunk is owned and run by dis-information agents.

Try again.

And another thing, there are a sh_tload of chemtrails over Sydney today.


You mean contrails. They are produced by air flight. Its standard.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:29pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:26pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 10:06am:
Undeniable? Unlikely


Only if you have trouble dealing with facts as have been presented here in this thread.




Where, havent seen anything more than badly formatted blogs and poorly produced Youtube videos.


Now you're just lying. There's nothing wrong with the vid on Kristen Meaghan where she presents her case clearly and with facts!

Why are you lying?



I like my facts peer reviewed and published.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:35pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:29pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:26pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 10:06am:
Undeniable? Unlikely


Only if you have trouble dealing with facts as have been presented here in this thread.




Where, havent seen anything more than badly formatted blogs and poorly produced Youtube videos.


Now you're just lying. There's nothing wrong with the vid on Kristen Meaghan where she presents her case clearly and with facts!

Why are you lying?



I like my facts peer reviewed and published.


Why would you trust peer reviews when we already know that the people doing these reviews, these so-called academics, are as corrupt as any politician.

Did you miss the East Anglia University email scandal?? That gave people a good idea of the nature of these 'academics'.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:36pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:28pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:24pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:21pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:30am:
How odd. Now that there is undeniable proof of chemtrails there are no replies.  ::)


Now? It's an old video, 2007. She is not addressing the UN.


Quote:
This video of Rosalind Peterson at the UN in 2007 has been repurposed on social media as if it's something new. It's been posted with such headlines as "100% Proof!" and "Leaker Speaks Out At United Nations".

Firstly this was not Peterson addressing the UN. This was simply a conference on Climate Change organized by the UN, not an actual UN session.

http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/index.htm

The session she spoke at was titled "Coping With Climate Change: Best Land Use Practice"
http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/annualconfs/60/Roundtable4.htm

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/debunked-rosalind-peterson-leaker-addressing-un-about-chemtrails-and-geoengineering.3514/


Metabunk is owned and run by dis-information agents.

Try again.

And another thing, there are a sh_tload of chemtrails over Sydney today.


You mean contrails. They are produced by air flight. Its standard.


Only a complete retard would say that after we have already shown proof of the existence of chemtrails.

So now I can see that you weren't lying. You're just retarded. Which I have come to expect from the lefties on this site.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:40pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:29pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:26pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 10:06am:
Undeniable? Unlikely


Only if you have trouble dealing with facts as have been presented here in this thread.




Where, havent seen anything more than badly formatted blogs and poorly produced Youtube videos.


Now you're just lying. There's nothing wrong with the vid on Kristen Meaghan where she presents her case clearly and with facts!

Why are you lying?



I like my facts peer reviewed and published.


Why would you trust peer reviews when we already know that the people doing these reviews, these so-called academics, are as corrupt as any politician.

Did you miss the East Anglia University email scandal?? That gave people a good idea of the nature of these 'academics'.




Because I know far more academics than you do and thus am vastly aware that they aren't as corrupt as you say.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:41pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:36pm:
Only a complete retard would say that after we have already shown proof of the existence of chemtrails.

So now I can see that you weren't lying. You're just retarded. Which I have come to expect from the lefties on this site.


You have no proof. It's not just lefties that think you lot are loons, I can assure you.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 8:46pm
How odd. Now that there is undeniable proof that the lady says there is no evidence of chemtrails there are no replies. ::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 1:55pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:41pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:36pm:
Only a complete retard would say that after we have already shown proof of the existence of chemtrails.

So now I can see that you weren't lying. You're just retarded. Which I have come to expect from the lefties on this site.


You have no proof. It's not just lefties that think you lot are loons, I can assure you.


X 2

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:51pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:40pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:35pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:29pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:26pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:15pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 12:14pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 22nd, 2014 at 10:06am:
Undeniable? Unlikely


Only if you have trouble dealing with facts as have been presented here in this thread.




Where, havent seen anything more than badly formatted blogs and poorly produced Youtube videos.


Now you're just lying. There's nothing wrong with the vid on Kristen Meaghan where she presents her case clearly and with facts!

Why are you lying?



I like my facts peer reviewed and published.


Why would you trust peer reviews when we already know that the people doing these reviews, these so-called academics, are as corrupt as any politician.

Did you miss the East Anglia University email scandal?? That gave people a good idea of the nature of these 'academics'.




Because I know far more academics than you do and thus am vastly aware that they aren't as corrupt as you say.


I know a number of them due to the fact I went to university and came across many of them. They don't get funding unless they're willing to go along with the Big Lie as perpetuated according to the Club of Rome.
Although my major wasn't in the realm of geography and climatology it was in applied physics believe it or not.

And yes I have made a few mistakes on this forum which is nothing next to the mis-information and out right lies of many on this forum, mostly lefties of course.

And STILL you have ignored the information put forth by a person who worked for the US military in a position that makes her an authority on the subject of chemtrails and geo-engineering! You dumb front bottoms.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:32pm
Last time i was at Tullamarine the flight was delayed because they had forgot to load the chemicals on board for the flight.

You will see most planes get their fuel, passangers, luggage etc then they also get a load of chemicals to spray over people.

This is why there are so many chemtrails related deaths in the papers. People are keeling over every day because planes fly above us and spray us with chemicals.



LOL, i feel like a spastic just writting it... ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:45pm

King FriYAY II wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:32pm:
Last time i was at Tullamarine the flight was delayed because they had forgot to load the chemicals on board for the flight.

You will see most planes get their fuel, passangers, luggage etc then they also get a load of chemicals to spray over people.

This is why there are so many chemtrails related deaths in the papers. People are keeling over every day because planes fly above us and spray us with chemicals.



LOL, i feel like a spastic just writting it... ;D ;D ;D


Maybe you are a spastic. 8-)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:47pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:51pm:
I know a number of them due to the fact I went to university and came across many of them. They don't get funding unless they're willing to go along with the Big Lie as perpetuated according to the Club of Rome.
Although my major wasn't in the realm of geography and climatology it was in applied physics believe it or not.

And yes I have made a few mistakes on this forum which is nothing next to the mis-information and out right lies of many on this forum, mostly lefties of course.

And STILL you have ignored the information put forth by a person who worked for the US military in a position that makes her an authority on the subject of chemtrails and geo-engineering! You dumb nice people.




For starters, I don't believe you, unless you failed badly. Secondly, what does the study of maps have to do with chemtrails.

Thirdly lets look at Kristen and the "study" she claims to have done. Theres no listing of where she took the sampling, what controls she put into place, any verifiability of her results, what analysis was performed and under what conditions. The claim about powdered metals being transported onto bases. Fine metals get transported onto bases. So what, unless its shown those metals end up in "chemtrails" it shows nothing.


We also gain an understanding of the claims when we look at Kristen herself. Looking at her twitter page shows she pretty much subscribes to every pseudoscientific rubbish dump running around. Additonally, she seems to have been a Sergeant in the Air Force, which essentially means lowly qualified shitkicker.

Watching the videos she appears in, notice how when asked about her military service she never mentions her rank. Additionally, what I seem to get from her interviews is that she overblows what she actually did in the military. Read between the lines, all she pretty much did was, look at what chemicals the Air Force was using, such as kerosene and paints and the like and paper check to make sure they were disposed of properly. This is confirmed when she talks about her current role of industrial hygienist. Basically she works in OH and S.

Coupled with her own statement from her twitter page she has non combat related PTSD, I think shes given to naricssistic personality disorder and this puts her testimony under doubt.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 4:06pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:45pm:

King FriYAY II wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:32pm:
Last time i was at Tullamarine the flight was delayed because they had forgot to load the chemicals on board for the flight.

You will see most planes get their fuel, passangers, luggage etc then they also get a load of chemicals to spray over people.

This is why there are so many chemtrails related deaths in the papers. People are keeling over every day because planes fly above us and spray us with chemicals.



LOL, i feel like a spastic just writting it... ;D ;D ;D


Maybe you are a spastic. 8-)


I could be, one thing for sure you'd have to be to believe it!!

You have dibs on all that spastic!!!

;D ;D

8-)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Baron Von Taipan on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 6:46pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 3:47pm:

Taipan wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 2:51pm:
I know a number of them due to the fact I went to university and came across many of them. They don't get funding unless they're willing to go along with the Big Lie as perpetuated according to the Club of Rome.
Although my major wasn't in the realm of geography and climatology it was in applied physics believe it or not.

And yes I have made a few mistakes on this forum which is nothing next to the mis-information and out right lies of many on this forum, mostly lefties of course.

And STILL you have ignored the information put forth by a person who worked for the US military in a position that makes her an authority on the subject of chemtrails and geo-engineering! You dumb nice people.




For starters, I don't believe you, unless you failed badly. Secondly, what does the study of maps have to do with chemtrails.

Thirdly lets look at Kristen and the "study" she claims to have done. Theres no listing of where she took the sampling, what controls she put into place, any verifiability of her results, what analysis was performed and under what conditions. The claim about powdered metals being transported onto bases. Fine metals get transported onto bases. So what, unless its shown those metals end up in "chemtrails" it shows nothing.


We also gain an understanding of the claims when we look at Kristen herself. Looking at her twitter page shows she pretty much subscribes to every pseudoscientific rubbish dump running around. Additonally, she seems to have been a Sergeant in the Air Force, which essentially means lowly qualified shitkicker.

Watching the videos she appears in, notice how when asked about her military service she never mentions her rank. Additionally, what I seem to get from her interviews is that she overblows what she actually did in the military. Read between the lines, all she pretty much did was, look at what chemicals the Air Force was using, such as kerosene and paints and the like and paper check to make sure they were disposed of properly. This is confirmed when she talks about her current role of industrial hygienist. Basically she works in OH and S.

Coupled with her own statement from her twitter page she has non combat related PTSD, I think shes given to naricssistic personality disorder and this puts her testimony under doubt.


Deny it all you want it wont take away from the fact its happening and people are dropping dead because of it.

Like I 've said before YOU'VE BEEN TOLD, YOU CAN NEVER SAY YOU DIDNT KNOW!



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 8:16pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 6:46pm:
Deny it all you want it wont take away from the fact its happening and people are dropping dead because of it.


Terrible isn't it? Every time I walk outside I have to clear the bodies away. :'(

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 8:35pm

Taipan wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 6:46pm:
Deny it all you want it wont take away from the fact its happening and people are dropping dead because of it.

Like I 've said before YOU'VE BEEN TOLD, YOU CAN NEVER SAY YOU DIDNT KNOW!



Could you provide one peer-reviewed reference that shows this link?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Apr 24th, 2014 at 10:09am
And the dead birds!!!! OMG!! We saw pelicans dropping out of the sky on the weekend, terrible.

Oh nooooooooooo there's a chemtrail over me now!!!!!

:D :D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 28th, 2014 at 6:26pm
look out ,

chemtrails about


http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/04/busted-pilot-forgets-chemtrails-on-lands-prior-to-turning-them-off-2446934.html

Busted! Pilot Forgets Chemtrails On! Lands Prior To Turning Them Off!?
Sunday, April 27, 2014 16:03





Check out this newly released video which purports to show a pilot landing with his chemtrails still turned on. If these ARE NOT chemtrails, then what are they? Though the source for this video is not always 100% trustworthy, have they somehow altered this video? It sure looks real to us and if not, can anyone else explain what we’re seeing in this video if not chemtrails?

A pilot of a commercial airliner made a mistake that irrefutably PROVES the existence of “CHEMTRAILS” — by forgetting to turn them off before he landed! Despite the fact that the plane is landing in foggy weather, the emission of chemtrails is unmistakable; their existence cannot be denied or explained-away by weather.  First, the trails are NOT coming from the back of the jet engines.  Second, the trails are not merely water trailing off the edges of the wings because as the plane passes, in addition to the wing trail emissions, there are clearly SPRAYS coming out of several sections at the rear of the wings in clear addition to any water that may be washing off the wing during landing.  See for yourself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 28th, 2014 at 10:39pm
its clearly the fog you retard

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Apr 28th, 2014 at 10:57pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 28th, 2014 at 6:26pm:
look out ,

chemtrails about


http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/04/busted-pilot-forgets-chemtrails-on-lands-prior-to-turning-them-off-2446934.html

Busted! Pilot Forgets Chemtrails On! Lands Prior To Turning Them Off!?
Sunday, April 27, 2014 16:03





Check out this newly released video which purports to show a pilot landing with his chemtrails still turned on. If these ARE NOT chemtrails, then what are they? Though the source for this video is not always 100% trustworthy, have they somehow altered this video? It sure looks real to us and if not, can anyone else explain what we’re seeing in this video if not chemtrails?

A pilot of a commercial airliner made a mistake that irrefutably PROVES the existence of “CHEMTRAILS” — by forgetting to turn them off before he landed! Despite the fact that the plane is landing in foggy weather, the emission of chemtrails is unmistakable; their existence cannot be denied or explained-away by weather.  First, the trails are NOT coming from the back of the jet engines.  Second, the trails are not merely water trailing off the edges of the wings because as the plane passes, in addition to the wing trail emissions, there are clearly SPRAYS coming out of several sections at the rear of the wings in clear addition to any water that may be washing off the wing during landing.  See for yourself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM


It's very water saturated air as you can see, fog. When the air pressure is lowered going over the wing it becomes cooler, you should be able to guess the rest but let me know if this doesn't satisfy you. You can see the same thing in clear air when a fighter jet turns hard.


edit:
You can google - why does vapour form over wings of a fighter jet turning - for better explanations.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 29th, 2014 at 5:18am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 28th, 2014 at 10:39pm:
its clearly the fog you retard


many blessings ,

first you need glasses and then

learn some manners , if you have the care

yet look again , you have eyes yet do not see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM

Busted! Pilot Forgets Chemtrails On! Lands Prior To Turning Them Off!?

this is forgiven

yet chemtrails have been Busted! Pilot Forgets Chemtrails On! Lands Prior To Turning Them Off!?

facts equal truth

and truth is the maxim of law ...

not your sour grapes you seem to love digesting .


a jet can create these vapour trails yes

at high speeds and tight turns ....



this is a passenger plane landing so look

again as it lets the chemtrails fly on landing ...



busted!!!!!

your limp wristed tricks and false projections

will always be exposed by divine light

so be at peace

namaste

- : ) =



/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 29th, 2014 at 5:55am

Taipan wrote on Mar 9th, 2014 at 8:42pm:
EPIC CHEMTRAILS MASSIVE GEO-ENGINEERING
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6bEOYPCpf4

The Governments of the New World Order poison our environment with chemicals.
We must all wake up and see these things for what they really are.
It's been going on for years now and it seems that "they" have no intentions to stop.


many blessings great and factual thread

that has been proven correct in truth

facts remain the maxim contributor

unto truth... so be at peace

and continue to watch reality

exposed in its totality

through divine light

.....love wins

so rejoice !



namaste

- : ) =



/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 29th, 2014 at 5:58am
" It's very water saturated air as you can see,
fog. "

wrong again ... which is perfectly correct

and true to your form , yet this is perfect also

dark/lies vsv divine truth and light.

the air is in fact saturated with the chemtrails

that were not switched off at high altitude   ...

no amount of spin will cover this one up ,



you are welcomed unto your sour grapes,

enjoy !

- : ) =




it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 5:18am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 28th, 2014 at 10:39pm:
its clearly the fog you retard


many blessings ,

first you need glasses and then

learn some manners , if you have the care

yet look again , you have eyes yet do not see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM

Busted! Pilot Forgets Chemtrails On! Lands Prior To Turning Them Off!?

this is forgiven

yet chemtrails have been Busted! Pilot Forgets Chemtrails On! Lands Prior To Turning Them Off!?

facts equal truth

and truth is the maxim of law ...

not your sour grapes you seem to love digesting .


a jet can create these vapour trails yes

at high speeds and tight turns ....



this is a passenger plane landing so look

again as it lets the chemtrails fly on landing ...



busted!!!!!

your limp wristed tricks and false projections

will always be exposed by divine light

so be at peace

namaste

- : ) =



/


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 29th, 2014 at 8:46am

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 5:58am:
" It's very water saturated air as you can see,
fog. "

wrong again ... which is perfectly correct

and true to your form , yet this is perfect also

dark/lies vsv divine truth and light.

the air is in fact saturated with the chemtrails

that were not switched off at high altitude   ...

no amount of spin will cover this one up ,



you are welcomed unto your sour grapes,

enjoy !

- : ) =




it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 5:18am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 28th, 2014 at 10:39pm:
its clearly the fog you retard


many blessings ,

first you need glasses and then

learn some manners , if you have the care

yet look again , you have eyes yet do not see

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM

Busted! Pilot Forgets Chemtrails On! Lands Prior To Turning Them Off!?

this is forgiven

yet chemtrails have been Busted! Pilot Forgets Chemtrails On! Lands Prior To Turning Them Off!?

facts equal truth

and truth is the maxim of law ...

not your sour grapes you seem to love digesting .


a jet can create these vapour trails yes

at high speeds and tight turns ....



this is a passenger plane landing so look

again as it lets the chemtrails fly on landing ...



busted!!!!!

your limp wristed tricks and false projections

will always be exposed by divine light

so be at peace

namaste

- : ) =



/




Saturated? Then it should have been exceptionally easy to get a sample of the chemtrails for analysis

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Apr 29th, 2014 at 12:31pm
It's raining and cloudy today.

I'm scared the NWO will double up on chem trails in the Nth Wst of Victoria, as we can't see the sneaky mofo's!

:o :o :o

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Apr 29th, 2014 at 1:26pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 5:18am:
a jet can create these vapour trails yes

at high speeds and tight turns ....



this is a passenger plane landing so look

again as it lets the chemtrails fly on landing ...


Yes it a passenger jet landing, with it's flaps down as you can see, creating low pressure above them and as you can see that is exactly where the vapour is forming, above the flaps. Your limp wristed paranoia will not change this.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Cliff48 on Apr 29th, 2014 at 2:48pm
Chemtrails are being used by Hockey to kill off the old and infirm to reduce the drain on the budget by the aged pension.

[/sarcasm]

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 29th, 2014 at 6:35pm

Setanta wrote on Apr 28th, 2014 at 10:57pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 28th, 2014 at 6:26pm:
look out ,

chemtrails about


http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/04/busted-pilot-forgets-chemtrails-on-lands-prior-to-turning-them-off-2446934.html

Busted! Pilot Forgets Chemtrails On! Lands Prior To Turning Them Off!?
Sunday, April 27, 2014 16:03





Check out this newly released video which purports to show a pilot landing with his chemtrails still turned on. If these ARE NOT chemtrails, then what are they? Though the source for this video is not always 100% trustworthy, have they somehow altered this video? It sure looks real to us and if not, can anyone else explain what we’re seeing in this video if not chemtrails?

A pilot of a commercial airliner made a mistake that irrefutably PROVES the existence of “CHEMTRAILS” — by forgetting to turn them off before he landed! Despite the fact that the plane is landing in foggy weather, the emission of chemtrails is unmistakable; their existence cannot be denied or explained-away by weather.  First, the trails are NOT coming from the back of the jet engines.  Second, the trails are not merely water trailing off the edges of the wings because as the plane passes, in addition to the wing trail emissions, there are clearly SPRAYS coming out of several sections at the rear of the wings in clear addition to any water that may be washing off the wing during landing.  See for yourself.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM


It's very water saturated air as you can see, fog. When the air pressure is lowered going over the wing it becomes cooler, you should be able to guess the rest but let me know if this doesn't satisfy you. You can see the same thing in clear air when a fighter jet turns hard.


edit:
You can google - why does vapour form over wings of a fighter jet turning - for better explanations.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-xD0QxGlGM

not by fog ...it is however

saturated by the chemtrails yes

thats what they are spraying

aluminium,barium,strontium and other substances

terra forming this planet which is outlined here

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/italian-senator-demands-declasification-and-disclosure-of-chemtrailgeoengineering-spraying/

Italian Senator Demands Declasification And Disclosure Of “Chemtrail / Geoengineering” Spraying



many are clueless yet rely on abuse for

their cheap thrill fix ...

it makes these dear ones feel better ..

so be it dear ones , yet facts remain truth




.. and thats sweet .






namaste

- : ) =



/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 29th, 2014 at 6:44pm
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/italian-senator-demands-declasification-and-disclosure-of-chemtrailgeoengineering-spraying/


Rome, 27 March. To abolish the state secret on chemtrails. This is being requested by Senator Domenico Scilipoti who had already carried out an interrogation on the matter in the last legislature. Thus after the declassification of the testament of the confessed (Mr) Schiavone (note 1) that made it possible to identify the traffickers in waste in the land of fires, and the request to declassify the documents regarding the death of Hilary Alpi (Italian Journalist killed in Somalia in 1994, in connection with discovery of toxic waste), now the Senator of the party “Forza Italia” has turned to demand the abolition of the State Secrecy on chemtrails, hoping thereby to expose international intrigue carried out at the expense of the citizen. In 2002 – he write – “Italy, through Vittorio Prodi, and the USA signed a bilateral agreement on climate research. In 2003 former Minister Martino authorised the USAF to fly over Italian airspace”. From that moment on, according to the “Forza Italia” Senator, our country would have been exposed to a high health risk to its citizens. The chemical trails left by aeroplanes in flight would have dispersed heavy metals in the air, provoking pollution in the rain causing damage to agriculture. Scilipoti has now requested the President of the Council (The Italian Prime Minister) to abolish the State Secret.

Note 1. In Italy there is a newly coined term “pentito” which refers to key persons in organised crime who turn state evidence and whose evidence becomes crucial in establishing a case and uncovering cover ups and intrigues. There is no proper word to translate it into English, but the literal translation is “confessed person”. The new culture of “pentiti”/informers in Italy in the last years has started to break the back of the mafia and expose not only mafia gangsters who were protected by long years of mafia secrecy within the mafia organisations (omerta’ – silence, on pain of death), but also their political allies.

Note 2. link to article on the campaign in Italy to declassify state secrets and classified documents (desecretazione) in relation to the journalist Ilaria Alpi and toxic waste. Title of the article is “President Boldrini, secrecy is no longer admissible.”

http://www.agenparl.it/articoli/news/politica/20140327-scie-chimiche-scilipoti-chiede-l-abolizione-del-segreto-di-stato

http://toxicleaks.org/blog/category/desecretazione/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 29th, 2014 at 6:47pm
http://www.globalresearch.ca/military-weather-modification-chemtrails-atmospheric-geoengineering-and-environmental-warfare/5356630

Planetary Weapons and Military Weather Modification: Chemtrails, Atmospheric Geoengineering and Environmental Warfare

By Rady Ananda
Global Research, February 01, 2014



Originally published by GR on Nov 3, 2013

Developed in 1988 by the United Nations Environment Programme and the UN’s World Meteorological Organization, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) just published its Fifth Assessment Report [1] and maintains its silence on military weather modification applications which continue to skew the data.

“Extreme weather and climate events” are linked to climate change while no mention is made of government programs deliberately aimed at modifying the weather and inducing earthquakes, drought, rain, and tsunamis.



The modern weather modification program, at least in the US, is over 70 years old. Public service announcements printed in newspapers back in the 1960s warned of government intention to modify the weather.

Life Magazine, back in the 50s and 60s, continually covered US weather modification programs, including Project Stormfury which redirected and reduced hurricane intensity from 1962 to 1983. The IPCC’s continuing and absolute silence on such programs is deafening.

With insider knowledge, a chapter in the 1968 book, Unless Peace Comes: A Scientific Forecast of New Weapons, predicts the development of technologies that will use the planet itself as a weapon. The chapter, “How to Wreck the Environment,” [2] was penned by geophysicist and member of President Johnson’s Science Advisory Committee, Dr. Gordon J.F. MacDonald, wherein he states:

“The key to geophysical warfare is the identification of the environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly greater amounts of energy.”

The chapter envisions four planetary weapons which MacDonald predicted would be fully developed by the 21st century, based on the then-current state of research:

Climate modification;
Earthquake generation;
Tsunami generation and direction; and
Mass behavior control via electromagnetic manipulation of the ionosphere.
The idea is carried forward in several geoengineering schemes detailed in Eli Kintisch’s Hack the Planet, in a chapter entitled “The Pursuit of Levers,” explained as “small changes in Earth’s system that can have profound global effects.” [3]

As LBJ’s Science Advisor, MacDonald surely knew of the military’s weather modification program known as Operation Popeye, which ran from 1967 thru 1972 in Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia. By seeding clouds, the US military caused torrential downpours that inhibited enemy truck and troop movements. Initially exposed by investigative journalist Jack Anderson, the existence of the project was later corroborated in The Pentagon Papers.

In 1996, world renowned scientist Dr. Rosalie Bertell, who served on the Bhopal and the Chernobyl Medical Commissions, and was a recipient of the Right Livelihood Award, published “Background on HAARP,” [4] describing Dr. Bernard Eastlund’s brainchild, the US High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project, as follows:

“It would be rash to assume that HAARP is an isolated experiment which would not be expanded. It is related to fifty years of intensive and increasingly destructive programs to understand and control the upper atmosphere. It would be rash not to associate HAARP with the space laboratory construction which is separately being planned by the United States. HAARP is an integral part of a long history of space research and development of a deliberate military nature.”

In 2000, reports Prof. Michel Chossudovsky, Dr Bertell told The Times of London, “US military scientists … are working on weather systems as a potential weapon. The methods include the enhancing of storms and the diverting of vapor rivers in the Earth’s atmosphere to produce targeted droughts or floods.” [5]

HAARP’s use of the ionosphere through radio frequencies, explains Dr. Nick Begich, co-author of Angels Don’t Play This HAARP, also triggers earthquakes and volcanoes. [6] Begich quotes Clinton’s Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen, who said in 1997 at a conference on terrorism:

“Others are engaging even in an eco-type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.” [7]

Pragmatically, the US wouldn’t be worried about such weapons unless they knew with certainty that they were feasible and had, in all likelihood, already developed them itself.

In “Atmospheric Geoengineering: Weather Manipulation, Contrails and Chemtrails,” which was named the 9th most censored story in 2012 by Project Censored, a brief history of known geoengineering events was published. [8] From that report, the IPCC’s co-founder, the World Meteorological Organization, complained six years ago, in 2007, that:

“In recent years there has been a decline in the support for weather modification research, and a tendency to move directly into operational projects.” [9]

... so as any can plainly see

these are facts

with no abuse ... many blessings

namaste

- : ) =




/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 29th, 2014 at 6:53pm
what time is footy on ?

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:

Bill Text
107th Congress (2001-2002)
H.R.2977.IH

H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

yes go watch that

for if you stay here you will have truth

rammed down your throat ...

either way , be at peace

namaste

- : ) =




/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 30th, 2014 at 7:37am
HAARP BUSTED !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCcVhyKA4Wo

3/31/2014 -- "HAARP ring" produces possible tornado REAL TIME as it pulses

Published on Mar 31, 2014
Full website post with multiple screenshots here:

http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/331...

____

Curious how radio frequency can influence the weather via ionization, and heating?

http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/wan...

____

____

This event is on top of the other "freak" tornado which appeared just South of Tulsa, Oklahoma earlier this evening (March 31, 2014).

See that event here:

http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/331...

____

Of course RF in the RADAR terminology books stands for "range folding" , as I've said in multiple videos, and written explanations, RF (radio frequency) is the true culprit of the vortex generation. Thus RF "range folding" should REALLY stand for "RF" as in radio frequency..

We are seeing anomalous propagation which is unable to be identified (range folding) due to being plasma (energy) being generated at a distance from the transmitter. RADAR interfering with itself after it "accidentally" generates its own energy and CCN (cloud condensation nuclei).

At the perimeter, in purple the "RF" is due to what has been coined the "Scalar RADAR effect". Energy transmitted at a distance.

The occurrence of RF at the perimeter confirms the "scalar RADAR" theory of intersecting frequencies having an effect where they cross. The RADAR is pumping out.. however there are outside forces also pumping IN towards the RADAR.. such as other RADAR signals from adjacent NEXRAD towers, and dozens of other sources such as 2.45GHz wifi, 2GHz cellular, and other commercial microwave transmissions along these bands.

Where these two forces meet.. the pumping out signal from the NEXRAD, and the myriad of incoming frequencies intersect (at the perimeter of the RADAR)... there is anomalous propagation / ionization / Range Folding due to RF radio frequency.

Thus, RF, indeed has a dual meaning. A "dual polarity" if you will :)
Category
Science & Technology

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 30th, 2014 at 7:44am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo-T_KvLNdQ

HAARP-- What is HAARP IS HAARP Dangerous HAARP and Weather Control.flv

Uploaded on Dec 2, 2010
Come freely subscribe to my insiders site at http://www.freedom-won.net.
The drought is government-made.HAARP can influence weather anywhere on earth. Here is more proof. If you are tired of the drought and the dry weather conditions, consider that the government is manipulating the weather for purposes that are not in your best interest. Freely subscribe to my insiders site at http://www.freedom-won.net.
Chemtrails dissolve rain clouds. Watch them do it over your own town, and tell your friends to watch. The drought is government-made.
Category
News & Politics

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:02am
Jesus christ Light you are a sucker.

Please put up a list of dead people killed by the NWO spraying chemicals from planes.

Thanks.

:D :D

Why aren't you dead? Don't you breathe when you go out side?

Do you even go out side!! :-/

Hands down the most brain dead of the brain dead conspiracy theories going around. ::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:08am

King FriYAY II wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:02am:
Jesus christ Light you are a sucker.

Please put up a list of dead people killed by the NWO spraying chemicals from planes.

Thanks.

:D :D

Why aren't you dead? Don't you breathe when you go out side?

Do you even go out side!! :-/

Hands down the most brain dead of the brain dead conspiracy theories going around. ::)




No thats anti-vax. Believing in chemtrails doesnt increase disease rates in children.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:10am
Get ready for another posting bomb. Four or five large posts incoming.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 30th, 2014 at 3:32pm
yes the facts have been unrebutted .

for all know that these chemtrails are factual

schemes concocted by world governments

and think tanks , like the australia institute ..

get educated then comment

yet chemtrails exist ,

these facts are outlined here .

do any deny this fact ?

these are agreements voted by US congress ,

other governments and the UN

australia gets led around by the nose

all the while the 3 above posters have nothing

but ridicule for the facts presented

and the messenger delivering as much ,

yet the existence of chemtrails is well documented

for any to deny this fact is a mere reflection

of their brain function and intellectual capabilities

which as it happens is not forthcoming for these 3

this is ok and cool 


it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 29th, 2014 at 6:53pm:
what time is footy on ?

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:

Bill Text
107th Congress (2001-2002)
H.R.2977.IH

H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

yes go watch that

for if you stay here you will have truth

rammed down your throat ...

either way , be at peace

namaste

- : ) =




/


namaste

- : ) =





/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 30th, 2014 at 4:58pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:10am:
Get ready for another posting bomb. Four or five large posts incoming.


the evidence brought forth stands

until it is rebutted .

not by abuse ,

but rebuttal of facts

this cannot be done hence abuse from ignorant

types whom know not the data applicable

to this subject , just one among many of their

collective shortcomings ,and so it is

so be it

namaste

- : ) =




/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on May 1st, 2014 at 9:26am

King FriYAY II wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:02am:
Jesus christ Light you are a sucker.

Please put up a list of dead people killed by the NWO spraying chemicals from planes.

Thanks.

:D :D

Why aren't you dead? Don't you breathe when you go out side?

Do you even go out side!! :-/

Hands down the most brain dead of the brain dead conspiracy theories going around. ::)


Any time you're ready.

*cough nut job cough*

::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on May 1st, 2014 at 9:30am

King FriYAY II wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:26am:

King FriYAY II wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:02am:
Jesus christ Light you are a sucker.

Please put up a list of dead people killed by the NWO spraying chemicals from planes.

Thanks.

:D :D

Why aren't you dead? Don't you breathe when you go out side?

Do you even go out side!! :-/

Hands down the most brain dead of the brain dead conspiracy theories going around. ::)


Any time you're ready.

*cough nut job cough*

::)


Carefull! He'll call you a dupe and a shill and a limp wristed poster then tell you all you have is abuse! ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on May 1st, 2014 at 10:07am

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 4:58pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:10am:
Get ready for another posting bomb. Four or five large posts incoming.


the evidence brought forth stands

until it is rebutted .

not by abuse ,

but rebuttal of facts

this cannot be done hence abuse from ignorant

types whom know not the data applicable

to this subject , just one among many of their

collective shortcomings ,and so it is

so be it

namaste

- : ) =




/


How about some evidence of deaths by chemtrail?

::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on May 1st, 2014 at 10:11am

Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:30am:

King FriYAY II wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:26am:

King FriYAY II wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:02am:
Jesus christ Light you are a sucker.

Please put up a list of dead people killed by the NWO spraying chemicals from planes.

Thanks.

:D :D

Why aren't you dead? Don't you breathe when you go out side?

Do you even go out side!! :-/

Hands down the most brain dead of the brain dead conspiracy theories going around. ::)


Any time you're ready.

*cough nut job cough*

::)


Carefull! He'll call you a dupe and a shill and a limp wristed poster then tell you all you have is abuse! ;D



What if chemtrails are a false flag operation?

The ultimate mind bender for the tin foil hat nut jobs - a conspiracy theory of a conspiracy theory.

O....M....F....G!!!!!!!!

::) ;D ::) ;D :D :D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on May 1st, 2014 at 11:04am

King FriYAY II wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 10:11am:

Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:30am:

King FriYAY II wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:26am:

King FriYAY II wrote on Apr 30th, 2014 at 10:02am:
Jesus christ Light you are a sucker.

Please put up a list of dead people killed by the NWO spraying chemicals from planes.

Thanks.

:D :D

Why aren't you dead? Don't you breathe when you go out side?

Do you even go out side!! :-/

Hands down the most brain dead of the brain dead conspiracy theories going around. ::)


Any time you're ready.

*cough nut job cough*

::)


Carefull! He'll call you a dupe and a shill and a limp wristed poster then tell you all you have is abuse! ;D



What if chemtrails are a false flag operation?

The ultimate mind bender for the tin foil hat nut jobs - a conspiracy theory of a conspiracy theory.

O....M....F....G!!!!!!!!

::) ;D ::) ;D :D :D


Sounds good! I've actually used this argument against Christianity. What if god just want to find all the people that think and reason rather than following like sheep? Surely he wants you to use brain he gave you. There's no better way than make a religion like Christianity where belief and faith mean everything to it and reason must be suppressed, to weed out those that won't think for themselves(You can throw Islam in that group too). Wouldn't it be funny if there was a god and it was the Christians heading for the scrap bin(hell) as defective humans. ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 6:55pm
many blessings ,

I see the 3 stooges have not addressed this fact ?

" Bill Text
107th Congress (2001-2002)
H.R.2977.IH

H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons. "

wonder why they will not address the

facts and they continue with inanity

this is ok and cool and your contribution

is treated with the respect it deserves ,

yet these 3 deny the truth and choose

to be upset ... this is quite ok

so carry on regardles as truth

remains unmolested by mediocre minds

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =




/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 7:52pm
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/the-true-purpose-of-chemtrails-2948294.html

The True Purpose of Chemtrails?
Wednesday, April 30, 2014 13:50



This is an archived article with some very compelling information which may also help explain some of the strange maladies many are experiencing. Watch your thoughts. – Zen
By Carolyn Williams Palit
Rense.com
We are dealing with Star Wars. It involves the combination of chemtrails for creating an atmosphere that will support electromagnetic waves, ground-based, electromagnetic field oscillators called gyrotrons, and ionospheric heaters. Particulates make directed energy weapons work better. It has to do with “steady state” and particle density for plasma beam propagation.
They spray barium powders and let it photo-ionize from the ultraviolet light of the sun. Then, they make an aluminum-plasma generated by “zapping” the metal cations that are in the spray with either electromagnetics from HAARP, the gyrotron system on the ground [Ground Wave Emergency Network], or space-based lasers. The barium makes the aluminum-plasma more particulate dense. This means they can make a denser plasma than they normally could from just ionizing the atmosphere or the air.
More density [more particles] means that these particles which are colliding into each other will become more charged because there are more of them present to collide. What are they ultimately trying to do up there — is create charged-particle, plasma beam weapons.
Chemtrails are the medium – GWEN pulse radars, the various HAARPs, and space-based lasers are the method, or more simply:
Chemtrails are the medium — directed energy is the method.

Spray and Zap.
This system appears to be in Russia, Canada, the United States, and all of Europe. Exotic weapons can be mobile, stationary, land-based, aerial, or satellite.
It is an offensive and defensive system against EM attacks and missiles. It uses ionospheric particle shells as defense mechanisms [like a bug-zapper shell]* against missiles and EM attacks. That means they spray and then pump up the spray with electromagnetics. When these shells are created using the oscillating, electromagnetic, gyrotron stations, it “excludes” and displaces the background magnetic field. These shells can be layered one above another in a canopy fashion for extra protection from missiles. The chemtrail sprays have various elements in them like carbon which can used to absorb microwaves. Some of these sprays have metal flakes in them that make aerial craft invisible to radar. Spoofer sprays. Sprays like these can be used to create colorful, magnetized plasmas to cloak fighter jets.
There are satellite weapons involved. Activists are using meters and are getting readings of microwaves, x-rays, and some other kind of emission that they are not sure of, maybe a low-intensity laser.
They are also photographing gas plasma generation due to the heating of chemtrails by electromagnetics. The technical names for vertical and horizontal plasma columns are columnar focal lenses and horizontal drift plasma antennas. Various size of gas plasma orbs are associated with this technology. These orbs can be used as transmitters and receivers because they have great, refractory and optical properties. They also are capable of transmitting digital or analog sound. Barium, in fact, is very refractive — more refractive than glass.
What does that mean? Someone or someones are very involved in unconstitutional, domestic spying and the entrained plasma orbs carried on electromagnetic beams can be used for mind control programming. The satellites can be programmed to track and monitor various frequencies on different parts of your body. These electromagnetic beams carrying the gas plasma orbs stick due magnetic polarity and frequency mapping and tracking to people’s eyes, ears, temples, and private parts. A beam with entrained orbs carries pictures in each orb just like the different frames in a movie. It is a particle beam that is also a frequency weapon.
The satellites download holographic mind control movies, pictures, sounds, and sensations to people through this technology. The Air Force has stated in “Air Force 2025? that their goal is to develop virtual and augmented reality mind control. Depending on the how the computer is programmed or depending on the mood or intent of the person interfacing with the technology, you can be probed, bothered, gaslighted, frightened, manipulated, electronically raped, or tortured. It scans your brain frequencies and deciphers your thoughts. The satellites track you by mapping your bioenergetic signature [body biometrics] and constantly scanning an area to find you.
We are the lab rats for this technology and something is very wrong in the military or intelligence branches somewhere. Because developmental projects in government and military are often so compartmentalized, I suppose someone could be using and developing this technology secretly and without authorization. Then again, behavioral and mind control programs were an authorized policy under MKULTRA. Our country has a history of experimenting on its citizens.

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/04/the-true-purpose-of-chemtrails-2948294.html

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 1st, 2014 at 8:45pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 6:55pm:
many blessings ,

I see the 3 stooges have not addressed this fact ?

" Bill Text
107th Congress (2001-2002)
H.R.2977.IH

H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons. "

wonder why they will not address the

facts and they continue with inanity

this is ok and cool and your contribution

is treated with the respect it deserves ,

yet these 3 deny the truth and choose

to be upset ... this is quite ok

so carry on regardles as truth

remains unmolested by mediocre minds

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =




/


Why does it need to be addressed? It's a piece of US Government Legislation. What does that have to do with the non-existence of 'chemtrails'??

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 8:50pm
many blessings ,

the title of this thread is epic chemtrails

many deny that chemtrails exist

yet facts remain ..

surely you have eyes

namaste

- : ) =





/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 8:56pm
Wrong. Zero facts have been produced

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 9:00pm
its in the US congressional bill

as an instrument of fact

yet at least 4 clueless 'operatives'

bleat and wallow in darkness

carry on regardless

the truth remains

chemtrails are at epic proportions

and being exposed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=prA3Jq-0BlY

so be at peace

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 9:03pm
Umm its about a possibility. You also notice the bill prevents use of extraterrestrial weapons even though we have none of those.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 9:06pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:03pm:
Umm its about a possibility. You also notice the bill prevents use of extraterrestrial weapons even though we have none of those.


oh yes you have a need to know ?

you know what top secret weaponry

major global governments possess ?

why dont you list the top ' on ' world technology ..

as opposed to ' off ' world tech .. and further

what do you think pine gap is ?

that is US military soil ... do you deny this ?

im interested on how warped your thinking ,

or lack of it is

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 9:08pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:06pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:03pm:
Umm its about a possibility. You also notice the bill prevents use of extraterrestrial weapons even though we have none of those.


oh yes you have a need to know ?

you know what top secret weaponry

major global governments possess ?

why dont you list the on world technology ..

what do you think pine gap is ?

that is US military soil ... do you deny this ?

im interested on how warped your thinking ,

or lack of it is

namaste

- : ) =



You do realise in science we don't allow this manner of thinking.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 9:10pm
so your a scientist ?

ok ,

what is faster than the speed of light ?

(186k miles per hour)

tick tock*



- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 9:18pm
well come now mister scientist

you wont be revealed as a fraud now will you ?

your predicament was predicted



you have become a contributor unto creation

as master ghandi has announced

well done !

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 9:34pm
Light can be made faster than light.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on May 1st, 2014 at 9:45pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:34pm:
Light can be made faster than light.


Light cannot be made to travel faster than light. The universe is expanding faster than light, but to make up for that, the light is stretched as the universe expands. Red shift.

Edit: Light can be slowed(refraction for eg) but it cannot breach 186,000mps, light in a vacum.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 9:47pm
this is on - planet

it is here and 2 scientists such as you are

should know this now come on ,

abuse will not help you now ... think really hard

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 9:48pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:34pm:
Light can be made faster than light.


what kind of ignorant abstract statement is this ?

wake up and lets have your correct answer

you have both guessed wrong

keep guessing

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 9:53pm
this is interesting yes

2 clueless dupes as these are

attempt to ridicule one such as I am when

facts are delivered these send abuse

and they both havent a clue on the question...

more dupes and dark ones exposed

in the divine light

we can see your faces,

and youse are gorgeous

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 9:54pm

Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:34pm:
Light can be made faster than light.


Light cannot be made to travel faster than light. The universe is expanding faster than light, but to make up for that, the light is stretched as the universe expands. Red shift.

Edit: Light can be slowed(refraction for eg) but it cannot breach 186,000mps, light in a vacum.


this is your 3rd edit,

so ill catch you here ,

you guessed wrong with your universe expanding

answer ... this is on planet .

another clueless dupe frantic with the google



well done master ghandi !

priceless *

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 9:56pm
They have found photons which move faster than than the 186000 mps

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 9:58pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:56pm:
They have found photons which move faster than than the 186000 mps


link ?

you are incorrect again

keep guessing you have been exposed

keep smiling

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Laugh till you cry on May 1st, 2014 at 9:59pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:56pm:
They have found photons which move faster than than the 186000 mps


I think they measured one of Hideous Herbert's bowel movements by mistake.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 10:04pm

Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:45pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 9:34pm:
Light can be made faster than light.


Light cannot be made to travel faster than light.


oh really ????????

are you sure ?

you have just stepped in another lie

exposing your clueless duperismic predicament

you 2 seemed way smarter than this ..

so smug with abuses yes

and all the while a pair of imposters

where is the correct answer from you 2 .

I will announce it soon if you are unable

and admit your shortcomings ...

for you both have been made to squeak *

so be it

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 10:06pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement


Yep, I'm sure.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 10:10pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 10:06pm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement


Yep, I'm sure.


oh yes ?

where are you quoting to back your assertion ?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 10:11pm
Sorry I was expecting you to read.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 10:13pm
Phase velocities above c[edit]
The phase velocity of an electromagnetic wave, when traveling through a medium, can routinely exceed c, the vacuum velocity of light. For example, this occurs in most glasses at X-ray frequencies.[12] However, the phase velocity of a wave corresponds to the propagation speed of a theoretical single-frequency (purely monochromatic) component of the wave at that frequency. Such a wave component must be infinite in extent and of constant amplitude (otherwise it is not truly monochromatic), and so cannot convey any information.[13] Thus a phase velocity above c does not imply the propagation of signals with a velocity above c.[14]

Group velocities above c[edit]
The group velocity of a wave (e.g., a light beam) may also exceed c in some circumstances. In such cases, which typically at the same time involve rapid attenuation of the intensity, the maximum of the envelope of a pulse may travel with a velocity above c. However, even this situation does not imply the propagation of signals with a velocity above c,[15] even though one may be tempted to associate pulse maxima with signals. The latter association has been shown to be misleading, basically because the information on the arrival of a pulse can be obtained before the pulse maximum arrives. For example, if some mechanism allows the full transmission of the leading part of a pulse while strongly attenuating the pulse maximum and everything behind (distortion), the pulse maximum is effectively shifted forward in time, while the information on the pulse does not come faster than c without this effect.[16]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light#Phase_velocities_above_c

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 10:13pm
Quantum mechanics[edit]
Certain phenomena in quantum mechanics, such as quantum entanglement, might give the superficial impression of allowing communication information faster than light. According to the no-communication theorem these phenomena do not allow true communication;

because if this is it ... you are found in lack

have you lied again ?

where in specificity are you quoting


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 10:15pm
Group velocities above c[edit]
The group velocity of a wave (e.g., a light beam) may also exceed c in some circumstances.

hahahahahahhahaha!

you are really clueless are'nt you .

you have been exposed again

keep guessing!


- : ) =


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 10:15pm
Faster light (Casimir vacuum and quantum tunnelling)[edit]
Raymond Y. Chiao was first to measure the quantum tunnelling time, which was found to be between 1.5 to 1.7 times the speed of light.

Einstein's equations of special relativity postulate that the speed of light in a vacuum is invariant in inertial frames. That is, it will be the same from any frame of reference moving at a constant speed. The equations do not specify any particular value for the speed of the light, which is an experimentally determined quantity for a fixed unit of length. Since 1983, the SI unit of length (the meter) has been defined using the speed of light.

The experimental determination has been made in vacuum. However, the vacuum we know is not the only possible vacuum which can exist. The vacuum has energy associated with it, unsurprisingly called the vacuum energy. This vacuum energy can perhaps be changed in certain cases.[43] When vacuum energy is lowered, light itself has been predicted to go faster than the standard value c. This is known as the Scharnhorst effect. Such a vacuum can be produced by bringing two perfectly smooth metal plates together at near atomic diameter spacing. It is called a Casimir vacuum. Calculations imply that light will go faster in such a vacuum by a minuscule amount: a photon traveling between two plates that are 1 micrometer apart would increase the photon's speed by only about one part in 1036.[44] Accordingly there has as yet been no experimental verification of the prediction. A recent analysis[45] argued that the Scharnhorst effect cannot be used to send information backwards in time with a single set of plates since the plates' rest frame would define a "preferred frame" for FTL signalling. However, with multiple pairs of plates in motion relative to one another the authors noted that they had no arguments that could "guarantee the total absence of causality violations", and invoked Hawking's speculative chronology protection conjecture which suggests that feedback loops of virtual particles would create "uncontrollable singularities in the renormalized quantum stress-energy" on the boundary of any potential time machine, and thus would require a theory of quantum gravity to fully analyze. Other authors argue that Scharnhorst's original analysis which seemed to show the possibility of faster-than-c signals involved approximations which may be incorrect, so that it is not clear whether this effect could actually increase signal speed at all.[46]

The physicists Günter Nimtz and Alfons Stahlhofen, of the University of Cologne, claim to have violated relativity experimentally by transmitting photons faster than the speed of light.[31] They say they have conducted an experiment in which microwave photons—relatively low energy packets of light—travelled "instantaneously" between a pair of prisms that had been moved up to 3 ft (1 m) apart. Their experiment involved an optical phenomenon known as "evanescent modes", and they claim that since evanescent modes have an imaginary wave number, they represent a "mathematical analogy" to quantum tunnelling.[31] Nimtz has also claimed that "evanescent modes are not fully describable by the Maxwell equations and quantum mechanics have to be taken into consideration."[47] Other scientists such as Herbert G. Winful and Robert Helling have argued that in fact there is nothing quantum-mechanical about Nimtz's experiments, and that the results can be fully predicted by the equations of classical electromagnetism (Maxwell's equations).[48][49]

Nimtz told New Scientist magazine: "For the time being, this is the only violation of special relativity that I know of." However, other physicists say that this phenomenon does not allow information to be transmitted faster than light. Aephraim Steinberg, a quantum optics expert at the University of Toronto, Canada, uses the analogy of a train traveling from Chicago to New York, but dropping off train cars at each station along the way, so that the center of the ever shrinking main train moves forward at each stop; in this way, the speed of the center of the train exceeds the speed of any of the individual cars.[50]

Herbert G. Winful argues that the train analogy is a variant of the "reshaping argument" for superluminal tunneling velocities, but he goes on to say that this argument is not actually supported by experiment or simulations, which actually show that the transmitted pulse has the same length and shape as the incident pulse.[48] Instead, Winful argues that the group delay in tunneling is not actually the transit time for the pulse (whose spatial length must be greater than the barrier length in order for its spectrum to be narrow enough to allow tunneling), but is instead the lifetime of the energy stored in a standing wave which forms inside the barrier. Since the stored energy in the barrier is less than the energy stored in a barrier-free region of the same length due to destructive interference, the group delay for the energy to escape the barrier region is shorter than it would be in free space, which according to Winful is the explanation for apparently superluminal tunneling.[51][52]

A number of authors have published papers disputing Nimtz's claim that Einstein causality is violated by his experiments, and there are many other papers in the literature discussing why quantum tunneling is not thought to violate causality.[53]

It was later claimed by the Keller group in Switzerland that par

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 10:16pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 10:11pm:
Sorry I was expecting you to read.


forgiven!

i read it, its not coherant

and incorrect

what is faster than light ?

' on ' world/planet

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 1st, 2014 at 10:18pm
Reply #214

copy and paste does not get you out of your

conundrum ...

you are still exposed and wrong

quick again with the frantic google searching

for you and your co horts

- : ) =


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Pastafarian on May 1st, 2014 at 10:20pm
Can someone else explain to this nimrod.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 1st, 2014 at 10:21pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 10:20pm:
Can someone else explain to this nimrod.


We've tried. He won't accept any evidence other than his own.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on May 2nd, 2014 at 9:09am

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 10:21pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 1st, 2014 at 10:20pm:
Can someone else explain to this nimrod.


We've tried. He won't accept any evidence other than his own.


Light and Evidence....

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 2nd, 2014 at 3:23pm
well come now ,

just ridicule ?

I will reveal the answer after a few more

of your humorous guesses

namaste

- : ) =




/


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 2nd, 2014 at 7:41pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmsijCzonmE

BUSTED Pilot Forgets To Turn Off CHEMTRAILS while landing

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 3rd, 2014 at 6:48pm
many blessings ,

while the 3 stooges google an answer ,

we will continue here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHm0XhtDyZA

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Kristen gave a ground breaking presentation of what she had discovered about Geoengineering / Chemtrails while serving her Country.
This BRAVE young lady has put her livelihood / life on the line for us.

This presentation was produced, filmed and edited by John F. King
https://www.youtube.com/user/johnfking00

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THE FATE OF AN ENGINEERED PLANET
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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 4th, 2014 at 11:15am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95hyWpVG2ig


What Chemtrails Really Are
By Carolyn Williams Palit
11-9-7

"The United States does not torture." --President George W. Bush

We are dealing with Star Wars. It involves the combination of chemtrails for creating an atmosphere that will support electromagnetic waves, ground-based, electromagnetic field oscillators called gyrotrons, and ionospheric heaters. Particulates make directed energy weapons work better. It has to do with "steady state" and particle density for plasma beam propagation.

They spray barium powders and let it photo-ionize from the ultraviolet light of the sun. Then, they make an aluminum-plasma generated by "zapping" the metal cations that are in the spray with either electromagnetics from HAARP, the gyrotron system on the ground [Ground Wave Emergency Network], or space-based lasers. The barium makes the aluminum-plasma more particulate dense. This means they can make a denser plasma than they normally could from just ionizing the atmosphere or the air.

More density [more particles] means that these particles which are colliding into each other will become more charged because there are more of them present to collide. What are they ultimately trying to do up there -- is create charged-particle, plasma beam weapons.
Chemtrails are the medium - GWEN pulse radars, the various HAARPs, and space-based lasers are the method, or more simply:

Chemtrails are the medium -- directed energy is the method.

Spray and Zap.

This system appears to be in Russia, Canada, the United States, and all of Europe. Exotic weapons can be mobile, stationary, land-based, aerial, or satellite.

It is an offensive and defensive system against EM attacks and missiles. It uses ionospheric particle shells as defense mechanisms [like a bug-zapper shell]* against missiles and EM attacks. That means they spray and then pump up the spray with electromagnetics. When these shells are created using the oscillating, electromagnetic, gyrotron stations, it "excludes" and displaces the background magnetic field. These shells can be layered one above another in a canopy fashion for extra protection from missiles. The chemtrail sprays have various elements in them like carbon which can used to absorb microwaves. Some of these sprays have metal flakes in them that make aerial craft invisible to radar. Spoofer sprays. Sprays like these can be used to create colorful, magnetized plasmas to cloak fighter jets.

There are satellite weapons involved. Activists are using meters and are getting readings of microwaves, x-rays, and some other kind of emission that they are not sure of, maybe a low-intensity laser.

They are also photographing gas plasma generation due to the heating of chemtrails by electromagnetics. The technical names for vertical and horizontal plasma columns are columnar focal lenses and horizontal drift plasma antennas. Various size of gas plasma orbs are associated with this technology. These orbs can be used as transmitters and receivers because they have great, refractory and optical properties. They also are capable of transmitting digital or analog sound. Barium, in fact, is very refractive -- more refractive than glass.

What does that mean? Someone or someones are very involved in unconstitutional, domestic spying and the entrained plasma orbs carried on electromagnetic beams can be used for mind control programming. The satellites can be programmed to track and monitor various frequencies on different parts of your body. These electromagnetic beams carrying the gas plasma orbs stick due magnetic polarity and frequency mapping and tracking to people's eyes, ears, temples, and private parts. A beam with entrained orbs carries pictures in each orb just like the different frames in a movie. It is a particle beam that is also a frequency weapon.

The satellites download holographic mind control movies, pictures, sounds, and sensations to people through this technology. The Air Force has stated in "Air Force 2025" that their goal is to develop virtual and augmented reality mind control. Depending on the how the computer is programmed or depending on the mood or intent of the person interfacing with the technology, you can be probed, bothered, gaslighted, frightened, manipulated, electronically raped, or tortured. It scans your brain frequencies and deciphers your thoughts. The satellites track you by mapping your bioenergetic signature [body biometrics] and constantly scanning an area to find you.

We are the lab rats for this technology and something is very wrong in the military or intelligence branches somewhere. Because developmental projects in government and military are often so compartmentalized, I suppose someone could be using and developing this technology secretly and without authorization. Then again, behavioral and mind control programs were an authorized policy under MKULTRA. Our country has a history of experimenting on its citizens. We are talking about satellite charged-particle frequency weapons attacking a person 24 hours a day. Psychotronic weapons are considered weapons of mass destruction by the U.N.

"HAARPs" can create earthquakes and can also x-ray the earth to find underground military bases, gold, or oil reserves. These ionospheric heaters can also operate as an over-the-horizon or under-the-ocean communications system.

http://rense.com/general79/chem.htm

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on May 4th, 2014 at 10:12pm
Alan Watt on Geoengineering and Chemtrails
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIUYDedsasg





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 8th, 2014 at 7:18pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1pkMUW0hQ8

April 2014 Breaking News HAARP CHEM TRAILS weather manipulation worldwide

Published on Feb 17, 2014
April 2014 Breaking News what is causing our extreme weather?? HAARP??? CHEM TRAILS??? weather manipulation worldwide. Today the day and age we live in no longer can we state look at what mother nature is doing because it is a known fact mankind has been for decades experimenting with manipulating the weather. Until recent investigation, I was skeptical about all the I thought Hype on HAARP and CHEM trails and now I am convinced with overwhelming evidence that in fact worldwide Governments are manipulating the weather for personal gain such as China seeking to make it rain when had major drought and the military's are using it as an advantage in war scenarios. No longer can mankind state any extreme weather anywhere in the world is complete nature when in fact man made disasters whether intentional or accidental are happening across the globe for decades.

Why isnt the main stream media reporting it? In my research I did find a news report by fox news it was only a local report.

September 2011 Weather Modification to Ease Texas Drought? http://video.foxnews.com/v/1146076363...

March 2013 CFR Council Foreign Affair The Truth About Geo Engineering weather control http://www.foreignaffairs.com/article...

April 2009 CFR Council of Foreign relations The Geoengineering Option A Last Resort Against Global Warming? http://www.foreignaffairs.com/article...

July 2013 Fox New reports on chem trails and many other resources to do your research
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Subjec...

March 2008 Natural News - German Scientist Exposes Chemtrails As Military Operations weather manipulation scientists filed lawsuit against Government for weather manipulation German Scientist Exposes Chemtrails As Military Operations http://www.naturalnews.com/022838_che...

February 17 2014 USA Military NASA Controlled weather weapons HAARP Mind control Last Days News http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4t1Qh...

February 17 2014 Breaking News Weather weapons existed over 15 years testified USA Secretary Defense http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qM1PX...

February 17 2014 Breaking News ChemTrails HAARP Military alter weather mind control health risks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4wNG3...

February 2014 Breaking News New study suggests global warming decreases storm activity and extreme weather http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/01/25...

February 2014 Breaking News Wall Street Journal Senator Warns Extreme Weather Is New Norm http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2014/02...

February 2014 Breaking News Global Warming, Winter Weather and the Russia Sochi Olympics Leading Climate Scientists Weigh In http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/201...


What is cloud seeding? http://www.weatherquestions.com/What_...

November 2013 IPCC warns not to stop chemtrails, aka 'solar radiation management http://foodfreedomgroup.com/2013/11/0...

IPCC offical document PDF file https://ipcc.ch/pdf/ar5/ar5-outline-c...

October 2013 David Keith hopes we don't have to use his ideas to reverse global warming http://www.boston.com/2013/10/15/geoe...
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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 8th, 2014 at 7:19pm
_/l\_

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 26th, 2014 at 5:58am
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/05/aerospace-worker-i-installed-chemtrail-devices-2962868.html

Aerospace Worker – “I Installed Chemtrail Devices!”
Saturday, May 24, 2014 19:41

At the Monday Demonstration in Dresden on May 12, 2014, a guy came forward during the open mike session and told the audience he participated in installing chemtrails devices on airplanes. Guess what happened when he went to the local representatives with proof in hand.  He got fired from his job just a few days later and can no longer work in the aerospace industry!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnCaE_3hImY

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Kytro on May 26th, 2014 at 8:43am
There is no credible evidence of "chemtrails" just speculation and paranoia. Governments sure do some dodgy things but in this case it's nonsense.

First of all at the height contrails form, virtually all chemicals with degrade and dissipate to the point where they have no negligible impact.

Additionally they can last varying amounts of time and turn into cloud like formations depending on the local conditions.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on May 26th, 2014 at 9:11am
Kytro, you're using facts which previous history shows have no effect on I am the light or taipan.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on May 26th, 2014 at 9:20pm

Kytro wrote on May 26th, 2014 at 8:43am:
There is no credible evidence of "chemtrails" just speculation and paranoia. Governments sure do some dodgy things but in this case it's nonsense.

First of all at the height contrails form, virtually all chemicals with degrade and dissipate to the point where they have no negligible impact.

Additionally they can last varying amounts of time and turn into cloud like formations depending on the local conditions.


To say that Kristen Meaghans revelations are not credible shows that you have no credibility.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on May 26th, 2014 at 10:57pm
Not sure I'd call them revelations more unfounded gibberish

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on May 27th, 2014 at 10:55am
In a report just in, it has been claimed that no new cases of death by chemtrail have been reported, ever.

:D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Kytro on May 27th, 2014 at 12:00pm

Taipan wrote on May 26th, 2014 at 9:20pm:
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To say that Kristen Meaghans revelations are not credible shows that you have no credibility.


Her revelations are rampant speculation. The military / government use chemicals? Who would have thought it.

She claims she did some research herself , with no information on how it's carried or why the results indicate chemtrails exist.

It's not like she is claiming firsthand evidence here, just her own speculation. Do government do some dodgy experiments with risk chemicals? Probably. That does not make chemtrails a real thing.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on May 27th, 2014 at 12:07pm

Kytro wrote on May 27th, 2014 at 12:00pm:

Taipan wrote on May 26th, 2014 at 9:20pm:
[

To say that Kristen Meaghans revelations are not credible shows that you have no credibility.


Her revelations are rampant speculation. The military / government use chemicals? Who would have thought it.

She claims she did some research herself , with no information on how it's carried or why the results indicate chemtrails exist.

It's not like she is claiming firsthand evidence here, just her own speculation. Do government do some dodgy experiments with risk chemicals? Probably. That does not make chemtrails a real thing.


From what I've read a lot of her "credibility" comes from her air force service. Since she was a Sgt her exposure to any thing other than being a poo kicker would be low.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 27th, 2014 at 6:56pm
many blessings ,

http://worldtruth.tv/swedish-official-admits-toxic-chemtrails-are-real-not-a-wild-conspiracy-theory/

Swedish Official Admits Toxic ‘Chemtrails’ Are Real, NOT a Wild Conspiracy Theory



Those long, white streams of persistent, cloudy haze commonly blasted into blue skies by unmarked airplanes are not your typical contrails, says Swedish Green Party leader Pernilla Hagberg. As reported by the Swedish paper Katrineholms Kuriren, Hagberg, the first major political leader to come forward on the issue, has openly admitted that these unusual cloud trails, which fail to dissipate like normal contrails do, are actually a toxic mix of chemicals, viruses, and metals that she has collectively referred to as “Chemtrails.”

According to Hagberg, the sprayings are a joint endeavor by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), as well as the Swedish government in her own country, to modify atmospheric conditions via deliberate aerosol spraying efforts. And included in this “dangerous” mix of aerosols are various chemical components, viruses and viral fragments, and metals such as aluminum and barium, which have already been shown to be accumulating in water supplies and soils around the world. (http://chemtrails.cc/)

Normal contrails, which are composed of mere water vapor that quickly dissipates after emission from jet engines, are far different from chemtrails, which gradually blanket the entire sky in a sea of white. The following video, put together by the FreeTruth Show, a YouTube-based radio broadcast, contains some imagery of what these chemtrails typically look like in the sky:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AykLfHtM_3M


“It is great to see a politician bringing public attention to this issue and helping add to the credibility of this cause in the mainstream,” writes JG Vibes for The Intel Hub about Hagberg’s unprecedented public admission. “Unfortunately, this is a political problem that requires many non-political solutions.”

Spraying the skies to save the planet?

Interestingly, the United Nations (UN) and various Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation-backed groups have recently been forced to admit that such sprayings are taking place, and that the emitted particles are not normal contrails. But their excuse for why chemtrail sprayings are being done is that they will somehow save the planet from the devastating effects of so-called “global warming,” that ever-present, pseudoscientific environmental theory that is often used as justification for all sorts of outlandish policy proposals. (http://www.globalresearch.ca)

In the case of chemtrails, everything from blocking the sun in order to lower the earth’s average temperatures, to deliberately shifting weather patterns for the purpose of offsetting the allegedly melting polar ice caps, have been used as excuses for trying to legitimize the seeding of our skies with a cornucopia of poisons. And if re-elected to another term, Hagberg says she will continue to fight such chemtrailing efforts in her own country, which she says have been co-opted by the Swedish government.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on May 27th, 2014 at 9:55pm
See heres your pro blem I am the light in believing anything you neglect facts.

Pernilla Hagberg is not the leader of the Swedish Green Party. The current leaders of the Green Party are Gustav Fridolin and Asa Romson. In the interview she stressed she spoke as a private citizen. She is merely a leader of one of the regional branches of the Green Party and even they have distanced themselves from her comments.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Kytro on May 27th, 2014 at 11:08pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 27th, 2014 at 6:56pm:
According to Hagberg, the sprayings are a joint endeavor by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the U.S. National Security Agency (NSA), as well as the Swedish government in her own country, to modify atmospheric conditions via deliberate aerosol spraying efforts.


She would know how? This isn't an example of her finding secret documents, or having access to insider information.

This is case of a politician being paranoid like other people.

The actual article say that she "believes" the picture is actually of chemtrail that contains heavy mental and viruses to check the weather.

She has no idea who really "controls" them, but she is convinced they exist.

This is the original article.


Quote:
Green Party group leader in Vingaker, Pernilla Hagberg, reacted to a picture in Katrineholms Courier that under the caption imagined airplane exhaust or condensation. She believes that it instead comes to viruses and heavy metals, dispersed in order to check the weather.

The image of a blue sky criss-crossed with white lines was published under the title "Blixtfånget". Pernilla Hagberg, member of the municipal government, a representative of the Green Party and the party's group leader of the city council in Vingaker, says that it is not at all about gas or condensate from the aircraft, but about so-called "chemtrails", kemstrimmor.
- Chemtrails contain various mixtures of chemicals and sometimes even viruses. It's so disturbing, on a clear blue sky, you see them and they stay all day. Since there will be no more sun that day.
According Pernilla Hagberg, the aim of kemstrimmor be to check the weather and direct sun rays and other natural phenomena.
- The most famous example that has occurred is at the Olympics in China. There are theories that chemtrails caused the drought in the United States. One can control the weather and cause earthquakes.
, she states that she does not really know who is responsible for kemstrimmorna but argues that it also can be enhanced control over world markets, commodity prices and food prices.
- It is something that is controlled by the U.S. and Russia. It has been with the military to do, CIA and NSA says Pernilla Hagberg.
, she does not feel that she had any great response in the Green Party for their thoughts.
- Many people say "oh, it's true," but then does not happen so much. There is no interest on the higher level. There are also those who think it is good, if sun rays stopped.
Spreading uranium and other precious heavy metals at random from the air would probably cost large sums, but Pernilla Hagberg believe that those behind are resourceful.
- They have the amount of money anytime.
Pernilla Hagberg know that data on kemstrimmor are controversial and that many sorts the data into the compartment "conspiracy theories", but is nevertheless convinced that they exist.
- I have encountered criticism, it easily falls in that category. But I am convinced of this.


This isn't some credible source of information, it's just someone else who believes it.

People who think it's true and people in government jobs who see chemicals at air force bases and draw wild conclusions are hardly good evidence

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 28th, 2014 at 5:19pm
http://chemtrailsinourskies.wordpress.com/fukushima-radioactive-chemtrails-rain-killing-foliage-worldwide/

TREES AND FOLIAGE DYING SICK AND MUTATING WORLDWIDE
Fukushima Radioactive Chemtrails Rain Killing Foliage Worldwide

Please scroll down for videos and pictures…and read viewers comments below videos.

Youtube is blocking some of my videos so i am creating a new play list here.

http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x2aejv_danieltowsey_trees-plants-bees-dying-from-radiation-fukushima/

New Trees Growth Very Poor Health Halifax May 24 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCDmbumzz4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCDmbumzz4

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on May 28th, 2014 at 9:56pm
Absolute proof of Chemtrails

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-afMDA4iwYA


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 28th, 2014 at 11:44pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 28th, 2014 at 5:19pm:
http://chemtrailsinourskies.wordpress.com/fukushima-radioactive-chemtrails-rain-killing-foliage-worldwide/

TREES AND FOLIAGE DYING SICK AND MUTATING WORLDWIDE
Fukushima Radioactive Chemtrails Rain Killing Foliage Worldwide

Please scroll down for videos and pictures…and read viewers comments below videos.

Youtube is blocking some of my videos so i am creating a new play list here.

http://www.dailymotion.com/playlist/x2aejv_danieltowsey_trees-plants-bees-dying-from-radiation-fukushima/

New Trees Growth Very Poor Health Halifax May 24 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCDmbumzz4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cCDmbumzz4


How long have they been loading Fukushima Chemtrails onto planes (and what exactly is a Fukushima Chemtrail anyway...isn't Fukushima a place??)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on May 28th, 2014 at 11:58pm
Ex-Military Industrial Environmental Hygienist Kristen Meghan Blows Whistle On Air Force Chemtrails

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx47GxKXv6U








Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on May 29th, 2014 at 12:02am
Chemtrail Tanker Up-Close with ON and OFF Spraying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnWO5KT8IhI


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 29th, 2014 at 12:04am

Taipan wrote on May 28th, 2014 at 9:56pm:
Absolute proof of Chemtrails

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-afMDA4iwYA



You know that just because the person who posted the video says  they're chemtrails, doesn't actually mean they ARE chemtrails, don't you??

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 29th, 2014 at 4:56am
many blessings

there seems to be certain posters ,

among others ,whom  are very quick

to dismiss the facts...

why would chemtrails be in the

space preservation act of 2001 in bill H.R.2977 ?


the id gizmo again is exposed for hoodwinkery

and non disclosure of truth

this is forgiven

namaste

- : ) =



Quote:
H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;


(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Kytro on May 29th, 2014 at 10:47am

Taipan wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 12:02am:
Chemtrail Tanker Up-Close with ON and OFF Spraying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnWO5KT8IhI



The original poster of this video posted it as a joke, you realise.

This is the unaltered version, with comments from the original poster


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Kytro on May 29th, 2014 at 10:59am

Taipan wrote on May 28th, 2014 at 11:58pm:
Ex-Military Industrial Environmental Hygienist Kristen Meghan Blows Whistle On Air Force Chemtrails

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx47GxKXv6U


Blowing the whistle? She is speculating and jumping to conclusions. Is the military involved in dodgy poo, probably, but there is no evidence of chemtrails.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 31st, 2014 at 4:53pm

Quote:
Blowing the whistle? She is speculating and jumping to conclusions. Is the military involved in dodgy poo, probably, but there is no evidence of chemtrails.





it_is_the_light wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 4:56am:
many blessings

there seems to be certain posters ,

among others ,whom  are very quick

to dismiss the facts...

why would chemtrails be in the

space preservation act of 2001 in bill H.R.2977 ?


the id gizmo again is exposed for hoodwinkery

and non disclosure of truth

this is forgiven

namaste

- : ) =



Quote:
H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;


(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 31st, 2014 at 5:03pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 4:53pm:

Quote:
Blowing the whistle? She is speculating and jumping to conclusions. Is the military involved in dodgy poo, probably, but there is no evidence of chemtrails.





it_is_the_light wrote on May 29th, 2014 at 4:56am:
many blessings

there seems to be certain posters ,

among others ,whom  are very quick

to dismiss the facts...

why would chemtrails be in the

space preservation act of 2001 in bill H.R.2977 ?


the id gizmo again is exposed for hoodwinkery

and non disclosure of truth

this is forgiven

namaste

- : ) =


[quote]H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;


(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.
[/quote]

And that STILL doesn't mean that the streamers seen behind commercial and military high altitude aircraft are actually chemtrails rather than contrails.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 31st, 2014 at 5:04pm
Quote:
H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;


(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 31st, 2014 at 5:20pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:04pm:
Quote:
H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;


(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.


Repeating the post doesn't do anything wharfy....because something is banned by government legislation does not prove it currently exists.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 31st, 2014 at 5:35pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:20pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:04pm:
Quote:
H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;


(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.


Repeating the post doesn't do anything wharfy....because something is banned by government legislation does not prove it currently exists.


many blessings

one such as I am simply brings forth the bill

in which

chemtrails is identified and outlawed

as a weapon circa the aforementioned space treaty

any dupe with half a brain can see

they gave the chemtrails its very own clause here


(ii) chemtrails;

did you miss the ( ii ) point in chemtrails ?

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 31st, 2014 at 5:39pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:35pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:20pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:04pm:
Quote:
H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 (Introduced in House - IH)

HR 2977 IH

107th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 2977
To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
October 2, 2001



http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c107:H.R.2977:

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

In this Act:
(1) The term `space' means all space extending upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
(2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:
(i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
(I) firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object;
(II) detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object;
(III) directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or
(IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.
(ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--
(I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
(II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or
(III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.
(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

(ii) chemtrails;


(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.


Repeating the post doesn't do anything wharfy....because something is banned by government legislation does not prove it currently exists.


many blessings

one such as I am simply brings forth the bill

in which

chemtrails is identified and outlawed

as a weapon circa the aforementioned space treaty

any dupe with half a brain can see

they gave the chemtrails its very own clause here


(ii) chemtrails;

did you miss the ( ii ) point in chemtrails ?

namaste

- : ) =


No, I didn't miss it....

And that proves MY point. Chemtrails are banned under that legislation, so whatever it is you are seeing in the sky is obviously NOT chemtrails.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 31st, 2014 at 5:46pm
this is interesting ,

so you admit (ii) chemtrails;

exist ?

is this what you are saying ?

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 31st, 2014 at 5:50pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:46pm:
this is interesting ,

so you admit (ii) chemtrails;

exist ?

is this what you are saying ?

namaste

- : ) =

No I don't 'admit' they exist. I admit that the US government has banned their use.....as they have extraterrestrial weapons, weapons that might damage space, ones that can cause earthquakes or affect the weather (none of which exist, and NO HARRP is NOT a weapon.)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 31st, 2014 at 5:53pm

Quote:
No I don't 'admit' they exist. I admit that the US government has banned their use ... gizmo


you seem confused ...

why would the US government ban something

that does not exist ?

this is non factual , and as such

the US government realize that chemtrails exist

yet you do not believe the existence of chemtrails,

is this what you are saying ?

im interested

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 31st, 2014 at 6:15pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:50pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:46pm:
this is interesting ,

so you admit (ii) chemtrails;

exist ?

is this what you are saying ?

namaste

- : ) =

No I don't 'admit' they exist. I admit that the US government has banned their use.....as they have extraterrestrial weapons, weapons that might damage space, ones that can cause earthquakes or affect the weather (none of which exist, and NO HARRP is NOT a weapon.)


many blessings wait one moment ,

and stay on topic with chemtrails here

if you have the care , I see you are throwing

a lure upon another subject yet

we shall stay right here , and you shall expand

on your understanding here so we can have a

clear picture of your rebuttal

for this is the topic of chemtrails and as such

you say they do not exist , yet

the US government has drafted and passed

a space treaty including , but not limited to

( ii ) chemtrails

yet you say they do not exist ...

is this what you are saying ?

we are establishing your conspiracy theory

of non existent ( ii ) chemtrails

and the US government admission that they

not only exist but they are not

to be used ...

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 31st, 2014 at 6:38pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 6:15pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:50pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:46pm:
this is interesting ,

so you admit (ii) chemtrails;

exist ?

is this what you are saying ?

namaste

- : ) =

No I don't 'admit' they exist. I admit that the US government has banned their use.....as they have extraterrestrial weapons, weapons that might damage space, ones that can cause earthquakes or affect the weather (none of which exist, and NO HARRP is NOT a weapon.)


many blessings wait one moment ,

and stay on topic with chemtrails here

if you have the care , I see you are throwing

a lure upon another subject yet

we shall stay right here , and you shall expand

on your understanding here so we can have a

clear picture of your rebuttal

for this is the topic of chemtrails and as such

you say they do not exist , yet

the US government has drafted and passed

a space treaty including , but not limited to

( ii ) chemtrails

yet you say they do not exist ...

is this what you are saying ?

we are establishing your conspiracy theory

of non existent ( ii ) chemtrails

and the US government admission that they

not only exist but they are not

to be used ...

namaste

- : ) =


Yes wharfy...the document says chemtrails...now prove that chemtrails exist, outside of THAT document..

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 31st, 2014 at 6:48pm

Quote:
Yes wharfy...the document says chemtrails...now prove that chemtrails exist, outside of THAT document..



many blessings

progress

now you admit this document has validity

and as such chemtrails exist quite factually

however

you say they do not exist ... so tell me

how can this be logical ?



please expand

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on May 31st, 2014 at 7:12pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 6:48pm:

Quote:
Yes wharfy...the document says chemtrails...now prove that chemtrails exist, outside of THAT document..



many blessings

progress

now you admit this document has validity

and as such chemtrails exist quite factually

however

you say they do not exist ... so tell me

how can this be logical ?



please expand

namaste

- : ) =



That's were you are wrong as usual. A word being in a document doesn't mean what is referred to 'exist quite factually'.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on May 31st, 2014 at 10:34pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 6:38pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 6:15pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:50pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 5:46pm:
this is interesting ,

so you admit (ii) chemtrails;

exist ?

is this what you are saying ?

namaste

- : ) =

No I don't 'admit' they exist. I admit that the US government has banned their use.....as they have extraterrestrial weapons, weapons that might damage space, ones that can cause earthquakes or affect the weather (none of which exist, and NO HARRP is NOT a weapon.)


many blessings wait one moment ,

and stay on topic with chemtrails here

if you have the care , I see you are throwing

a lure upon another subject yet

we shall stay right here , and you shall expand

on your understanding here so we can have a

clear picture of your rebuttal

for this is the topic of chemtrails and as such

you say they do not exist , yet

the US government has drafted and passed

a space treaty including , but not limited to

( ii ) chemtrails

yet you say they do not exist ...

is this what you are saying ?

we are establishing your conspiracy theory

of non existent ( ii ) chemtrails

and the US government admission that they

not only exist but they are not

to be used ...

namaste

- : ) =


Yes wharfy...the document says chemtrails...now prove that chemtrails exist, outside of THAT document..


This is one of the many problems with lemmings.

They expect truth to be so easy to come by that its like buying something from a supermarket shelf. They don't understand that a lie can be so big that to reveal the lie takes an awful lot of research and study and explaining.
The explaining part is something I'm not good at unfortunately.

Those of us who are awake have the intuition to know when someone is telling the truth. Lemmings don't. They are blinded by their own egotism and ignorance.

Some people like gizmo just cant be helped. They're just too far gone. Too much indoctrination and TV dependence.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on May 31st, 2014 at 10:36pm
Theres my comic relief for the night.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 7:45am
Good to see this thread is on its way to becoming an Epic Thread.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Kytro on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 9:15am

Taipan wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 10:34pm:
\

This is one of the many problems with lemmings.

They expect truth to be so easy to come by that its like buying something from a supermarket shelf. They don't understand that a lie can be so big that to reveal the lie takes an awful lot of research and study and explaining.
The explaining part is something I'm not good at unfortunately.

Those of us who are awake have the intuition to know when someone is telling the truth. Lemmings don't. They are blinded by their own egotism and ignorance.

Some people like gizmo just cant be helped. They're just too far gone. Too much indoctrination and TV dependence.



It's not that conspiracy theories are never true, but there is also no where near enough credible evidence, and some of the claims are scientifically impossible. Some things that are purported evidence are in fact, definitely faked.

Being a sceptic means I'll not blindly accept things. 

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 9:46am

Kytro wrote on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 9:15am:

Taipan wrote on May 31st, 2014 at 10:34pm:
\

This is one of the many problems with lemmings.

They expect truth to be so easy to come by that its like buying something from a supermarket shelf. They don't understand that a lie can be so big that to reveal the lie takes an awful lot of research and study and explaining.
The explaining part is something I'm not good at unfortunately.

Those of us who are awake have the intuition to know when someone is telling the truth. Lemmings don't. They are blinded by their own egotism and ignorance.

Some people like gizmo just cant be helped. They're just too far gone. Too much indoctrination and TV dependence.



It's not that conspiracy theories are never true, but there is also no where near enough credible evidence, and some of the claims are scientifically impossible. Some things that are purported evidence are in fact, definitely faked.

Being a sceptic means I'll not blindly accept things. 



I see it a bit like UFOs, I'm a sceptic about UFOs, but I'd love to believe that they exist and that ET are real etc, but the evidence currently is so shoddy as to make that belief impossible.

Being called lemmings is a good debating trick. It means you don't actually have to produce evidence. The problem with Taipan and I am the light is they think Youtube videos of someone whos claimed to work with them, but can't show paperwork or chemical analyses of that work, qualifies as evidence.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 10:40am
How about a table made up off air quality testing and results, surely a simple way to show all these chemicals we are being bombarded with?

OMFG - another person just dropped dead on the footpath outside, 5 black vans pulled up and 20 men dressed in black got out, picked up the body and sped off!!!

O :oM :oF :oG


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 12:12pm
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/11/conspiracy_theory_psychology_people_who_claim_to_know_the_truth_about_jfk.html

Interestingarticle. I like the bit about fundamental attribution error. Where you ascribe other peoples behaviours to personality traits and objectives rather than situation and chance

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Kytro on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 1:00pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 3rd, 2014 at 12:12pm:
http://www.slate.com/articles/health_and_science/science/2013/11/conspiracy_theory_psychology_people_who_claim_to_know_the_truth_about_jfk.html

Interesting article. I like the bit about fundamental attribution error. Where you ascribe other peoples behaviours to personality traits and objectives rather than situation and chance


Fundamental attribution error is everywhere. It's part of the reason people want such harsh penalties.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 4th, 2014 at 9:43am

I see it a bit like UFOs, I'm a sceptic about UFOs

__________

another misconception

right before your eyes ..

the fact is there are many unexplained

flying objects

yes they exist military cannot explain

these unexplained flying objects

so yes these flying objects remain unexplained

yet some clowns do not believe in them

we lol !



namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jun 4th, 2014 at 9:46am
OK I'll rephrase the extra-terrestrial explanation of UFOs.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Kytro on Jun 4th, 2014 at 9:48am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 4th, 2014 at 9:43am:
I see it a bit like UFOs, I'm a sceptic about UFOs

__________

another misconception

right before your eyes ..

the fact is there are many unexplained

flying objects


Just because the person who sees the object does not have an explanation does not mean there isn't one.


it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 4th, 2014 at 9:43am:
yes they exist military cannot explain

these unexplained flying objects

so yes these flying objects remain unexplained

yet some clowns do not believe in them


Will not does not mean cannot.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 4th, 2014 at 12:55pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 4th, 2014 at 9:46am:
OK I'll rephrase the extra-terrestrial explanation of UFOs.


yes these exist whether you call them off world

or on world entities / objects

they are ufo

do you deny the existence of as much ?

there is many evidences recorded

all over the web and peoples experiences

and also here ,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1342779163

ufo's exist

namaste

- : ) =


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jun 4th, 2014 at 12:56pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 4th, 2014 at 12:55pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 4th, 2014 at 9:46am:
OK I'll rephrase the extra-terrestrial explanation of UFOs.


yes these exist whether you call them off world

or on world entities / objects

they are ufo

do you deny the existence of as much ?

there is many evidences recorded

all over the web and peoples experiences

and also here ,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1342779163

ufo's exist

namaste

- : ) =



Yep, I deny every poo anecdote and fuzzy video.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 5th, 2014 at 8:24pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-icE788Mm4

6/05/2014 -- Airplanes spraying (seeding) over Kansas cause tornadoes + hail

Published on Jun 5, 2014
345am Central time June 5 2014

The spraying event is still visible on the RADAR feed LIVE for the next few hours:

http://weather.cod.edu/satrad/nexrad/index.php?type=DDC-N0Q-1-200
_____

Kansas does regular spraying of chemicals (via aircraft) for precipitation enhancement ... usually paid for by the Kansas state aquifer authority. Here is last months spray schedule from the Western Kansas Weather Modification Program , paid for using funds from the State:




http://www.gmd1.org/2014nwsltrs6.pdf

here is more on their weather modification program:

http://www.gmd1.org/index-3.html

_____


As the video title says, a major storm outbreak has resulted via aerosol / sprayed particulate interference with the weather.

Literally, we're talking about cloud seeding planes laying trails for "precipitation enhancement" across the Western portion of Kansas directly before an oncoming storm.

Unfortunately, the trails put out by the weather modification aircraft INSTANTLY developed into tornadoes, hail, and damaging winds, as the storms which were instantly created became far too powerful (unexpectedly).

Cloud seeding is done usually using sprayed silver iodide, which acts as a moisture molecule attractor, which ultimately produces droplets of rain. Usually the raindrop formation process happens within minutes (or less) of spraying the substance.



____

Much more on weather modification here:

http://dutchsinse.tatoott1009.com/want-to-know-about-weather-modification-haarp-vlf-hf-and-chemtrails-want-to-prove-it-to-a-non-believer-here-you-go/
Category
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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 5th, 2014 at 8:44pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T42PKfsMQ_c

Dissolving Chemtrails

Published on May 26, 2014
In this video, Brad Johnson speaks on how you can use a particular meditative technique to assist in dissolving chemtrails from the sky.

http://www.consciousmatrix.com
Category
Education

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 10th, 2014 at 2:49am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7ori-Qxco

No Chemtrails spread from commercial flights....?

Think again, then get out of my sky.

Footage Of Chemtrails Turning On And Off


Published on Jun 2, 2014 By TheDamo63

On May 21 2014...see a Jumbo fly over engaging its aerosol with 6 chemtrails,then producing just 2 chemtrails,moments before disengaging its aerosol.

4 engines,6 chemtrails,then 2 chemtrails - what the???

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jun 10th, 2014 at 3:00am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2014 at 8:44pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T42PKfsMQ_c

Dissolving Chemtrails

Published on May 26, 2014
In this video, Brad Johnson speaks on how you can use a particular meditative technique to assist in dissolving chemtrails from the sky.

http://www.consciousmatrix.com
Category
Education


HAHAHA, so 'chemtrails' can be dissolved by an act of will???
Well I suppose since they aren't real anyway, 'meditating' them away would work as well as anything else... :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jun 10th, 2014 at 3:15am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jun 10th, 2014 at 3:00am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2014 at 8:44pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T42PKfsMQ_c

Dissolving Chemtrails

Published on May 26, 2014
In this video, Brad Johnson speaks on how you can use a particular meditative technique to assist in dissolving chemtrails from the sky.

http://www.consciousmatrix.com
Category
Education


HAHAHA, so 'chemtrails' can be dissolved by an act of will???
Well I suppose since they aren't real anyway, 'meditating' them away would work as well as anything else... :D :D :D :D


Gizmo uses toilet paper with prepunched finger holes. Chemtrails are a fantasy to Gizmo's magic fingers.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 21st, 2014 at 5:40am
we continue ,

as the paper is deemed holy..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6VWMQy3Sec

Obvious Manufacturing of the Sky Over England 19th June 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7ori-Qxco

No Chemtrails spread from commercial flights....?

Think again, then get out of my sky.

Footage Of Chemtrails Turning On And Off


Published on Jun 2, 2014 By TheDamo63

On May 21 2014...see a Jumbo fly over engaging its aerosol with 6 chemtrails,then producing just 2 chemtrails,moments before disengaging its aerosol.

4 engines,6 chemtrails,then 2 chemtrails - what the???

carry on regardless

namaste

- : ) =



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Jun 21st, 2014 at 7:54pm
Well Done IITL for trying to get the truth out.

Although you have to be aware that some people can not be told the truth, they're just too far gone. The amount of indoctrination they have received over the years from their god, i.e. television, combined with their insignificant egos is too much to get past. Its an act of futility trying to get through to them but well done for trying mate.  :)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 21st, 2014 at 8:58pm

Taipan wrote on Jun 21st, 2014 at 7:54pm:
Well Done IITL for trying to get the truth out.

Although you have to be aware that some people can not be told the truth, they're just too far gone. The amount of indoctrination they have received over the years from their god, i.e. television, combined with their insignificant egos is too much to get past. Its an act of futility trying to get through to them but well done for trying mate.  :)


many blessings

however

one such as I am does not argue

yet simply brings facts and truths

some absorb this truth

some disregard that truth

the aforementioned truth exists without

permissions and or approvals

and as such it matters not if one believes

or not , either way be at peace

in love and light

namaste

- : ) =





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 21st, 2014 at 9:42pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBwK-ypm0zY

ChemTrail Sprayer 100% proof filmed up close by AF pilots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCbsQFNuxUo

Here Is Your Proof That Chemtrails And Geoengineering Are 100% Real!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 2:22am
AEROSPACE WORKER FIRED After Admitting: “I Installed Chemtrail Devices” – New World Order Plans To Destroy and Take Over! (Videos and Photos)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnCaE_3hImY

Aerospace Worker: "I Installed Chemtrails Devices" @ Monday Demonstration 5/12/2014 - ENGLISH SUBS





In his words, from the included video footage below:

“We gutted the plane, mounted the tanks. Installed the cables and lines and spraying devices. I was a civilian worker supervised by the military. When we finished, we were told that this was a test conducted by the German Aeronautics and Space Administration. Meaning that the plane with the spraying devices goes ahead while a second plane with measuring devices flies behind and conducts measurements. Like, “we just want to find out how the particles do behave and propagate.

“So when we were finished with the installation, guys from the  military came over and instructed us to wear full body protective clothing and breathing masks because they were now going to fill the tanks. And that the substances, like aluminum sulfides or barium oxides, would contain highly toxic nano particle sized polymers.”

He then adds, “We are moving toward an ecological catastrophe!  And those who don’t believe me, please come here and I will show you the proof!”




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 10:24am
That photo si mislabelled.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 10:35am
Yes i hate it when my flight is delayed due to the plane having to fill up with the new world orders chemicals to kill us all.

::) ::)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 1st, 2014 at 2:24am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NJvRhO0V_A

Shocking Video! Arizona State Senator Kelli Ward Holds Public Forum on Geo-Engineering, Weather Modification

Kingman, Arizona, June 27, 2014 – On Wednesday, June 25, Arizona State Senator Kelli Ward held a public forum to discuss public concerns regarding white vapor trails in the skies. Arizona Department of Environmental Quality (ADEQ) representatives Sherri Zendri and Beth Hager were on hand to answer questions from local residents who presented studies, personal research, and blood samples they claim prove that planes are spraying chemicals.

Senator Ward stated the meeting was a response to “relentless” communication from constituents who are concerned with vapor trails commonly called contrails or condensation trails. However, residents say the trails are not standard contrails but rather “chemtrails” being sprayed as part of a global program of weather manipulation. One resident claimed the difference between contrails and chemical trails is easy to spot because the contrails are short and dissipate quickly, while the chemtrails are long, dragged out, and crisscross the sky.

Meeting attendees listed a variety of reasons they believe the government is spraying. These include poisoning of the food and people to manipulating the weather patterns. Senator Ward and the ADEQ representatives repeatedly told attendees that they have no jurisdiction over chemical spraying whether it was happening or not. In a video of the meeting the frustration from citizens is easily seen.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 1st, 2014 at 2:25am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 23rd, 2014 at 10:24am:
That photo si mislabelled.


many blessings

you announce confusion

this is clear and forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Chard on Jul 1st, 2014 at 3:57am
Hey, Light, seems there is an easy solution to the Chemtrail problem, man.  Check it out, bro...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsdeAF_Prfo

Now go on out there and start spraying, man!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Jul 1st, 2014 at 5:12am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 22nd, 2014 at 2:22am:
AEROSPACE WORKER FIRED After Admitting: “I Installed Chemtrail Devices” – New World Order Plans To Destroy and Take Over! (Videos and Photos)


In his words, from the included video footage below:

“We gutted the plane, mounted the tanks. Installed the cables and lines and spraying devices. I was a civilian worker supervised by the military. When we finished, we were told that this was a test conducted by the German Aeronautics and Space Administration. Meaning that the plane with the spraying devices goes ahead while a second plane with measuring devices flies behind and conducts measurements. Like, “we just want to find out how the particles do behave and propagate.

“So when we were finished with the installation, guys from the  military came over and instructed us to wear full body protective clothing and breathing masks because they were now going to fill the tanks. And that the substances, like aluminum sulfides or barium oxides, would contain highly toxic nano particle sized polymers.”

He then adds, “We are moving toward an ecological catastrophe!  And those who don’t believe me, please come here and I will show you the proof!”




Yep, military types with top secret information are always telling civilians all their interesting knowledge just to fill in time. It is lucky the military wasn't around to supervise when he was taking all the high resolution photos, too.

Im thinking this civilian is, like many, many other is just full of sh1t.  ;D


This is a fun post, with paranoia and stupidity in just the right mix to be very entertaining.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 1st, 2014 at 5:50am

Quote:
Yep, military types with top secret information are always telling civilians all their interesting knowledge just to fill in time.






http://www.ae911truth.org/

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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 1:43am
Nice to see you're keeping up the good work IITL and keeping this thread alive. Don't worry about the deniers mate, some people are just too far gone and can not be woken up.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 4:47am

Taipan wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 1:43am:
Nice to see you're keeping up the good work IITL and keeping this thread alive. Don't worry about the deniers mate, some people are just too far gone and can not be woken up.


quite correct brother being however

facts are truths and these

remain unrebutted

and so it is

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 9:22am

Taipan wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 1:43am:
Nice to see you're keeping up the good work IITL and keeping this thread alive. Don't worry about the deniers mate, some people are just too far gone and can not be woken up.



I know, right. I mean fancy asking for evidence other than youtube videos.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 9:24am
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4027

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 3:30pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 4:47am:

Taipan wrote on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 1:43am:
Nice to see you're keeping up the good work IITL and keeping this thread alive. Don't worry about the deniers mate, some people are just too far gone and can not be woken up.


quite correct brother being however

facts are truths and these

remain unrebutted

and so it is

namaste

- : ) =


Sooooooo, ya been out doing tests on the air quality?

Surely that will be the easiest way to show that the New World Order is pumping commercial airliners full of chemicals to gas us all.

(you could also use the lastest statistics on people who have died due to the New World Order pumping commercial airliners full of chemicals to gas us all)

Ooooooooooooooor not!

;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 2nd, 2014 at 4:08pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnQn_n3YZ9c

Crazy CHEMTRAILS over the SKY in LONDON UK - Look Up & Get Informed

Published on Dec 15, 2013
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Crazy CHEMTRAILS over the SKY in LONDON UK - Look Up & Get Informed

Have you ever seen those long smoke-lines in the sky and wondered what they are? Some may be jet vapor contrails, but others are known as chemtrails. Most of the population

Contrails are the result of jet engine vapors condensing into tiny ice particles at high altitude. As more have reported the chemtrail phenomena to government agencies, the usual cover story is that they're being sprayed as part of a geoengineering effort to slow down global warming, or they're conducting military drills with releasing streams of metallic particulates to confuse radar. what in the world are they spraying
He tried to into introduce a bill called the Space Preservation Act in 1997 and 2001, star wars .. After looking into chemtrails for yourself, ask anyone to look up if you see them and watch them go into denial as well. Sometimes both contrails and chemtrails appear simultaneously, making it easier to differentiate.

Consider the Hazards from Chemtrails
Readings taken after chemtrail episodes from air traps, water traps, ground and snow samples vary slightly from location to location, but they usually contain small particulates or nanoparticles of aluminum, barium, strontium, and sometimes ethylene dibromide or EDB, often called dibromoethane, an EPA banned fuel additive.

Consider that these particulates fan out at high altitudes and fall onto the ground invisibly, affecting foliage, forests, crops, rivers and lakes, animals, and humans. Many aware conservationists and environmentalists are aware of the chemtrail damage to our biosphere.

Breathing nanoparticles of toxic metals into the lungs bypasses our primary immune system's defenses. These substances make their way into the blood directly from the lung's capillaries. And aluminum gets through the blood-brain barrier. But don't worry; Monsanto has patented aluminum resistant seeds. How did they know that was needed? Strange.

Just a couple of years ago, an Arizona resident collected certified medical blood test documents from seriously ill Arizonians and sent them to various State and Federal elected officials demanding an investigation. The blood sample documents showed extremely high amounts of either barium or aluminum or both. None of those people worked or had worked with hazardous materials containing those items. Some were retired.

In the past couple of decades, death from respiratory disease in the US have been increasing. Asthma rates have more than doubled in the western world and Alzheimer's' disease and autism spectrum disorders have risen dramatically.

Barium can be linked to multiple diseases including respiratory diseases and aluminum to neurological afflictions.

Even if you're not directly affected by these nanoparticles from chemtrails, your immune system is adversely affected and forced to work overtime with yet more environmental and food pollutants and toxins, leaving you more prone to infectious and autoimmune diseases. And in any case, if the soil is affected (which it is) you are affected.

If you're new to this and curious, start checking out those jet trails and notice the difference between contrails and chemtrails. You can Google chemtrails, aerosol spraying, or geoengineering for more resources and sites with photos and videos. Try to sidestep the usual debunking shills and trolls, but without disregarding all the information. It's important to look at everything from multiple angles to get a better understanding.

Protecting Yourself
Despite all the efforts of individuals and small groups as well as documentaries, nothing gets done about this toxic elephant in the sky. So you have to protect yourself by detoxing often.

A mineral water product called Volvic, available at Whole Foods and online, has been used to remove aluminum from the brain. The recommended regimen is 1.5 liters daily for five days. And there are other ways to remove heavy metals from the body, including professional chelation and do-it-yourself solutions.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Laugh till you cry on Jul 7th, 2014 at 2:34pm
Humanity may be a short lived species dying at its own hand. Its in the water too:

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/16337/20140707/search-for-chemical-contaminants-on-after-intersex-fish-found-in-pennsylvania-rivers.htm

"... Pennsylvania authorities have begun the search for chemical contaminants after the discovery of intersex fish in three of the state's major rivers.

Male fish carrying eggs were found in the Susquehanna, Delaware and Ohio River basins. This is a big red flag that the water may be tainted with chemicals.

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Department of Environmental Protection spokeswoman Amanda Witman said the agency will be testing two tributaries of the Susquehanna River. These are the Juniata River and the Swatara Creek.

According to Business Standard, "The USGS research said that two fish species, smallmouth bass and white sucker, were exhibiting intersex characteristics due to exposure to endocrine-disrupting chemicals - hormones and hormone-mimicking chemicals that caused the male fish to produce eggs."

"The sources of estrogenic chemicals are most likely complex mixtures from both agricultural sources, such as animal wastes, pesticides and herbicides, and human sources from wastewater treatment plant effluent and other sewage discharges," Vicki Blazer, a fish biologist and lead author of the USGS study said..."

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 27th, 2014 at 2:47am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdJY6TryGnU

Climate Conference Admits Chemtrails Used For Global Cooling

Published on Aug 26, 2014
“While the entire community of academia still pretends not to know about the ongoing reality of global geoengineering,” comments Dane Wigington at Geoengineering Watch, “the simple fact that they are now discussing geoengineering in the latest IPCC report indicates that the veil is beginning to lift.” http://www.infowars.com/latest-climat...
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RIKAGlwkn8

LATEST CLIMATE REPORT ADMITS CHEMTRAILS ARE NO CONSPIRACY THEORY

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December 4, 2013

“While the entire community of academia still pretends not to know about the ongoing reality of global geoengineering,” comments Dane Wigington at Geoengineering Watch, “the simple fact that they are now discussing geoengineering in the latest IPCC report indicates that the veil is beginning to lift.”

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 27th, 2014 at 3:39pm
many blessings

all the conspiracy denialists are quiet

another thread proven correct

and so it is

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Aug 27th, 2014 at 3:42pm
Frankly sick and tired of pointing how poo InfoWars is as a reference.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 27th, 2014 at 3:46pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 3:39pm:
many blessings

all the conspiracy denialists are quiet

another thread proven correct

and so it is

namaste

- : ) =


Of course we are Light, but NOT because it's 'proven correct', but because there's no actual information other than a 2nd hand report of something a conspiraloon may have said.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Aug 27th, 2014 at 3:46pm
.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 27th, 2014 at 4:49pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 3:42pm:
Frankly sick and tired of pointing how poo InfoWars is as a reference.


many blessings

you announce you are sick ..

this is forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 27th, 2014 at 4:50pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 3:46pm:
.


- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Aug 27th, 2014 at 4:56pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 4:49pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 27th, 2014 at 3:42pm:
Frankly sick and tired of pointing how poo InfoWars is as a reference.


many blessings

you announce you are sick ..

this is forgiven

namaste

- : ) =



Quote mining, the refuge of a true pseudoscientist.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 2:18am
many blessings ,

felling better ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA3krIax3jg&list=UU21XoYb7efcQOI5ZeRJ2Vvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gV5gXIOy0w

so be it

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by MarkOlsson on Sep 13th, 2014 at 6:45pm
Passing on the message old skool style ;)
Chemtrails_Australia.jpg (132 KB | 91 )

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Sep 13th, 2014 at 7:13pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 2nd, 2014 at 2:18am:
many blessings ,

felling better ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA3krIax3jg&list=UU21XoYb7efcQOI5ZeRJ2Vvg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gV5gXIOy0w

so be it

namaste

- : ) =


Ah, so chemtrails are not chemtrails any more they are UFOs? UFOs are laying chemtrails and masquerade as planes laying chemtrails? You almost have me convinced.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Team_Oh_Yeah on Sep 16th, 2014 at 10:41am
;D ;D ;D
chemtrails.jpg (8 KB | 98 )

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 7:12pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6r6jdG-5kQ

Amazing UFO activity! UFO fleet controls Chemtrails, Sept 2014

09/12/14 - I was on a yacht with a friend. We were sailing together, enjoying the beautiful blue sky in Normandy. I was watching a huge Chemtrail and some nice clouds while taking a sunbath, when my attention got turned away by something else (I don't remember). I stopped watching the sky for some minutes.

When I stared at the sky again, I slowly noticed some strange little dots of light near the huge Chemtrail. As always, I got my iPhone in my pocket :-) So I immediately took it and recorded what I could. After checking on my PC screen, I counted seven white objects slowly descending inside the trail, and also disappearing behind it. It seems the huge orb is am the mothership "leading" the fleet.

► I have 3 hypothesis:

- These are parts of meteors falling down. (rare phenomenon in daylight!)

- These are spy drones / military devices, controlling - watching the trails (maybe to analyse them)

- These are UFOs = unidentified flying objects - controlling and monitoring these trails.

What do you think? I'm pretty confused on this one. This type of sighting is pretty recurrent where I live, I've been seeing these thing hundreds of times, and sometimes I could record the most impressive ones. (like this one)

► Feel free to comment and tell me your opinion. I'll mostly reply to constructive comments!

Type ➫ Lights
Scale ➫ Unknown
Duration ➫ 45 seconds
Color(s) ➫ White
Light(s) ➫ Yes
Speed ➫ Slow
Filmed with ➫ iPhone 5S

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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 7:56pm
IITL, you're bringing the whole ufo thing into it now?

Its an Epic Chemtrail thread NOT an Epic UFO thread.

Give it a rest will ya.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 12:35am

Taipan wrote on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 7:56pm:
IITL, you're bringing the whole ufo thing into it now?

Its an Epic Chemtrail thread NOT an Epic UFO thread.

Give it a rest will ya.


many blessings the post is on topic

one such as I am needs not your permission

or approval to post articles of an on topic nature

within the relevant thread .

you seem discomforted .

so be it

you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Taipan on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 1:00am

it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 12:35am:

Taipan wrote on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 7:56pm:
IITL, you're bringing the whole ufo thing into it now?

Its an Epic Chemtrail thread NOT an Epic UFO thread.

Give it a rest will ya.


many blessings the post is on topic

one such as I am needs not your permission

or approval to post articles of an on topic nature

within the relevant thread .

you seem discomforted .

so be it

you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =


Its hard enough trying to make people aware of chemtrails but when you throw UFOs into it I just don't think it helps the situation.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 9:51am

Taipan wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 1:00am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 12:35am:

Taipan wrote on Sep 22nd, 2014 at 7:56pm:
IITL, you're bringing the whole ufo thing into it now?

Its an Epic Chemtrail thread NOT an Epic UFO thread.

Give it a rest will ya.


many blessings the post is on topic

one such as I am needs not your permission

or approval to post articles of an on topic nature

within the relevant thread .

you seem discomforted .

so be it

you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =


Its hard enough trying to make people aware of chemtrails but when you throw UFOs into it I just don't think it helps the situation.




I think its relevant. It illustrates the type of illogical thinking that Chemtrailers and UFO nuts have.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by King FriYAY II on Sep 23rd, 2014 at 9:58am
You'd think it would just be easier to monitor the air and report on what chemicals we are all being sprayed with?

::) :-X

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 7:19pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeTaejpg18g


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 7:21pm


:D :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 9:00pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 7:21pm:


:D :D :D :D :D


I can explain it if you want me to. Do you want the information or are you happy as you are?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 10:11pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeTaejpg18g


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 10:42pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Oct 3rd, 2014 at 10:11pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeTaejpg18g


So that is a no? For one that should be a seeker of truth, that one seems awfully closed to things that may cause intellectual discomfort.

So be it

And so it is.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 13th, 2014 at 6:42pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUmf9ZFARZw


A DOCTOR EXPOSING CHEM TRAILS AT THE UN: IS THIS CORRECT? WE ARE BEING POISONED FOR MONEY.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=743853178996927

DID I HEAR THIS CORRECT ? WE ARE BEING POISONED FOR MONEY

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 14th, 2014 at 10:26pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lHiQ1Bu8XY

http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/10/ufo-analyzes-chemtrail-in-amazing-video-3044136.html

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Oct 15th, 2014 at 8:21am
http://deadstate.org/this-guy-fooled-millions-of-chemtrail-conspiracy-theorists-now-they-want-his-head/

This guy fooled millions of chemtrail conspiracy theorists, now they want his head
posted by DeadState October 13, 2014 Conspiracy Theories, Featured
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deadstate chris bovey      

Anyone who’s had an Internet connection for the last decade has most likely heard of the “chemtrails” conspiracy theory: the notion that the white vapor you see trailing planes at high altitudes is not simply condensation, but a sinister mix of chemicals that the government uses to crop dust the population for mind control purposes, weather manipulation, etc.

The evidence for this is absolutely zero, but the number of people who subscribe to and disseminate this unique brand of paranoia (maybe even more incoherent than 9/11 trutherism) is shockingly high — and growing.

The growth of this particular form of mass misinformation, and conspiracy theories in general, has expanded along with the growth of the Internet. That’s what makes a certain social experiment by a fellow from the U.K. so interesting.

From VICE:

    On October 1, Chris Bovey—a 41-year-old from Devon, England—thought he’d troll the chemtrails camp. During a flight from Buenos Aires to the UK, his plane had to make an emergency landing in São Paulo and dumped excess fuel to lighten the load. Since he had a window seat, Chris decided to film all the liquid being sprayed out of the wing next to him.

    Touching down, he uploaded the video with a caption that suggested it could be evidence of chemtrails, hoping to mess with a couple of friends who he knew might fall for it. The video now has 1.1 million views, nearly 20,000 shares, and dozens of comments telling viewers to “wake the F up,” or accusing naysayers of being “stupid paid shills.”

Adding fuel to the fire, Bovey then made up a story about how he’d been detained at Heathrow Airport and was interrogated by authorities who confiscated his cellphone.

Soon after, the conspiracy site NeonNettle.com ran his story as evidence for chemtrails.

Speaking to VICE, editor of the anti-conspiracy site Metabunk Mick West says that the proliferation of unverified “evidence” online is what allows conspiracy theories like chemtrails to spread like termites.

“People share things that look interesting without really looking into them, and they take the word of whoever’s posting it that it’s a real thing,” West said. “I knew from the start that [Bovey’s video] was some kind of hoax, but people want to have their worldview confirmed, so when they see something that seems to fit their worldview they jump on it.”

In the wake of the video, Bovey was invited onto a radio show hosted by Richie Allen, a friend of David Icke — a man who claims we’re being ruled by a group of lizard creatures disguised as world leaders. On the air, Chris revealed that his video was actually a hoax, after which an argument with the host about the validity of the chemtrails ensued.

Since then, Chris has been subject to a stream of “vulgar abuse” from conspiracy theorists attacking his Facebook page. You can read VICE’s interview with Bovey about the aftermath here.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Team_Oh_Yeah on Oct 16th, 2014 at 9:19pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Oct 15th, 2014 at 8:21am:
    On October 1, Chris Bovey—a 41-year-old from Devon, England—thought he’d troll the chemtrails camp. During a flight from Buenos Aires to the UK, his plane had to make an emergency landing in São Paulo and dumped excess fuel to lighten the load. Since he had a window seat, Chris decided to film all the liquid being sprayed out of the wing next to him.

    Touching down, he uploaded the video with a caption that suggested it could be evidence of chemtrails, hoping to mess with a couple of friends who he knew might fall for it. The video now has 1.1 million views, nearly 20,000 shares, and dozens of comments telling viewers to “wake the F up,” or accusing naysayers of being “stupid paid shills.”


Where's Taipan when you need him? Or is he busy making a new tin foil hat?
:D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 27th, 2014 at 9:16pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvQT5sfcJM

(Shocking) NASA official admits chem-trails are real!!


Published on Jun 18, 2014
they are real CASE CLOSED this is for the deniers who say they dont exist and that people are crazy. this is a phone call to Douglas Rowland of NASA in which he explains that they are real and there are many reasons they do it! I dont believe they are trying to kill us all but there are some health affects
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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Shirt_front_Oh_Yeah on Nov 29th, 2014 at 12:09pm
;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 8th, 2014 at 4:27am
Arizona Aircraft Drops Mysterious “Fibers” From the Sky and You Won’t Believe the Test Results and How Local Media Was Caught Lying about It! Plus Documentation Proving the DOD Can Experiment on the Populace!
Sunday, December 7, 2014 7:40




(Image of Fiber found by Maria Snow)



By now everyone has witnessed streaks of white blazing across the sky, stretching from horizon to horizon, ultimately turning the skies into a murky haze. We can no longer ignore the fact that our skies are being heavily polluted, which attributes to a whole host of health problems for all those affected by it. Sadly, far too many people today remain in the dark about these nefarious chemtrails but thankfully there are people out there exposing truth as it arrives. Marie Snow and her friend Cori Gunnelsknew, who live in Chino Valley, Arizona were confronted by mysterious fibers falling from three military planes including a C-130 aircraft that was flying in the area. After discovering hundreds, if not thousands of these fibers in her yard, she decided to collect some and contact news sources.



In the video below I dive through her story and the shocking discovery of not only what was found inside these mysterious “fibers” but also the shocking lie broadcast by the local news station, KPHO, CBS 5 and the truth that the government really can experiment on the population. Here is the breaking report…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpkeV3SqyBY&list=UUBDrbqudUtPUQxAK_K2JaNQ



If you are still a skeptic the video below is of Rosalind Peterson, the president of Agriculture Defense Coalition. In it she address the United Nations on chemtrails, geoengineering, and weather modification (HAARP)….


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw

If you live on or around the Yavapai County area, please contact everyone you know. Make this story go viral!



Here is the lie that was broadcast by the local news source, KPHO, CBS 5: 

http://www.kpho.com/story/27420731/mysterious-fibers-found-in-chino-valley?autostart=true



Quote:
Marie Scherbaum Snow ·  Top Commenter · Yavapai College
I am the person that was interviewed. I don't think CBS is lying at all about the sample they collected. CBS did omit many pertinent facts from the interview, but after I left the interview they collected their own sample. What we saw in this interview was not what we collected or saw falling from the direction of an aircraft. Their sample was huge.....I have not seen samples of this "unknown fiber" that are that large. I believe they collected what looked to them to be the same fibers, but in all actuality, MAY have been a gauze bandage. There were cows down the street from where the interview was shot. I am not making excuses for anyone. I am simply telling the truth.
Cori and I had our own two samples collected mid-air and from fences.We had these fibers tested and they were extremely high in three heavy metals. No matter what you call it, it fell from the direction of a military aircraft and on our heads... we inhaled this fiber... it tested high for heavy metals. Are you going to just laugh it off and let your children play in this stuff? It is occurring all over the globe... and what IF geoengineering/chemtrails are in fact much more than a "conspiracy theory"... why risk your lives and the lives of those around you. Please Google "geoengineering."

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:11am
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/12/05/chemtrails-synthetic-alien-biology-and-climate-change-war-on-mankind/

Chemtrails: Synthetic Alien Biology and Climate Change War on Mankind
Chemtrails: Synthetic Alien Biology and Climate Modification Sprayed From Planes
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GLOBE NEWSWIRE: “Synthetic biology is an emerging area of research and is broadly described as the design and construction of novel organisms or devices, artificial biological pathways, and the redesign of existing natural biological systems”



The History of the “Chemtrails” Assault on Global Populations



The Department of Defense invented and published the term “Chemtrails” in 1990 as title to a US Air Force Academy pilot training manual (PDF Download)
“Chemtrails” was published by the US government again in 2000 in House Resolution, HR-2977, sponsored by Ohio Congressman, Dennis Kucinich where the term is defined as an “exotic weapon”.
Far from being an internet rumor by USAF_Air-Force-Academy-Chemtrails Manualso-called, conspiracy theorists, the term chemtrails is a military invention, bought and paid for by the American taxpayer who has earned the right to use the term to describe unusual jet contrail emissions released into the atmosphere by military aircraft as a possible “exotic weapon”.
Since documentation and dictionary definitions available in 2014 are more than sufficient to define the term “Chemtrail”, there is no longer a rational reason that an unusual aircraft emission cannot be called a “chemtrail” in order to facilitate the distinction between the appearance of a normal vs. abnormal aircraft emission.
Impromtu rule-making by a few prominent activists to stop using the term “chemtrails”, and replace it with “geoengineering” are misguided attempts to replace a “description” with a “process” that offers no appropriate substitute term for describing the unusual emissions (chemtrails). The effect of an edict to outlaw “chemtrails” serves more as a “gag order” to silence open discussion where “chemtrails” has been globally accepted as standard parlance in multiple languages throughout countries in both hemispheres.
More importantly the confusion is multiplied when the term geongineering also applies to deliberate emissions of water vapor “contrails” from aircraft engines known to increase surface temperatures by virtue of trapping long-wave radiation as found on page 7 of “Aviation and the Global Atmosphere” published by the IPCC in 1999 (PDF)
“Contrails tend to warm the Earth’s surface, similar to thin high clouds”
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Finally there is no evidence in 2014, that internet filters have succeeded in scrubbing the term “chemtrails” from Google or other search engine requests.
youtube-icon-square-66This video is one of hundreds that demonstrate the sober reality of covert aerosol spraying. The use of a high quality camera capable of astronomical magnification reveals too much to be denied. This video was submitted BOOK - Tim Ball deliberate corruption of climate science-smallto Climatologist, Tim Ball – author of the book: The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science following Dr. Ball’s visit to ChemtrailsPlanet.net to suggest I review his book. The stunning revelations in Ball’s book indicates his interest in climate corruption that extends into the highly trolled and covert operation of aerosol geoengineering.
youtube-icon-square-66The issue of chemtrails vs. contrails is explained in this simple demonstration that compares the emissions from two similar aircraft traveling at approximately the same altitude. The normal water vapor conversion to ice crystals creates a contrail that keeps up with the speed of the aircraft while the chemical aerosol trail (chemtrail) exhibits an unnatural “persistence” that stretches out towards the horizon.
youtube-icon-square-66Former USDA inspector, Rosalind Peterson speaks to an audience at a 2007 United Nations Global Warming session. Peterson’s information is solid for covert aerosol engineering but completely ignored by the IPCC and their corrupt scientific process as Dr. Tim Ball reveals in his book (above).
Aerospace Engineer, Coen Vermeeren evaluatedCoen_vermeeren-PhD-b extensive documentation to conclude that aerosol geoengineering, aka chemtrails is a fact. The 300 page report (Available in PDF) was commissioned by the Belfort Group in a well attended conference that included several speakers from the EU. Dr. Vermeeren’s complete 1 hour presentation is posted in the article
Cliff CarnicomRetired government scientist, Cliff Carnicom began publishing technical reports of unusual aerosol emissions over the area of Santa Fe New Mexico in 1999. In 2005, Cliff produced what continues to be the most important video documentary, “Aerosol Crimes”, The content is exhaustive and covers all aspects of chemtrails including implications of electromagnetic, atmospheric conduction, weather modification and discovery of bio-engineered “filaments” associated with chemtrail aerosols sprayed from aircraft..
Cliff’s website at CarnicomInstitute contains many reports on aerosol observations and analysis through May 17, 2007, after which Cliff’s focus turned almost exclusively to research on the cross-domain bacteria (CDB),

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Outrage Bus on Dec 8th, 2014 at 8:29am
Contrary to popular belief, contrails dont start at the engines.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 8th, 2014 at 4:49pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 8:29am:
Contrary to popular belief, contrails dont start at the engines.


many blessings pastafarian

you have no standing upon pages of truth

on account of your mercury and squalene addiction

you readily shoot up into your veins

admitted by you on and for the record

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1333413031/181#181

and so

your mind is addled as your crooked intent and limp wrist

this is how it should be for it is so

and so it is so be it

namaste

- : ) =


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 8th, 2014 at 4:54pm
Give it up man...you've been shown to be a moron (AND wrong) soooooooo many times, you really should just quietly run away....seriously. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:23pm
Ive avoided this thread because it looked boring.  I cant believe anyone is THAT gullible to believe this nonsense.  are people really that stupid to believe this crap??  For starters, how do the plan engineers who pull planes completely apart every year miss these poison canisters?  or are they suggesting that every flight mechanic is in on it?

I think I have found my proof that most people are stupid - very stupid.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:41pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:23pm:
Ive avoided this thread because it looked boring.  I cant believe anyone is THAT gullible to believe this nonsense.  are people really that stupid to believe this crap??  For starters, how do the plan engineers who pull planes completely apart every year miss these poison canisters?  or are they suggesting that every flight mechanic is in on it?

I think I have found my proof that most people are stupid - very stupid.


many blessings weekender

still stinging again one such as I am observes

this was predicted and forewarned however

you may start on page 1 and start rebuttals

you have some catching up dear one and again

you are forewarned of impending grand exposure of your inadequacies again , and so

you have again been alerted unto your immanent dilemma

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:14pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:23pm:
Ive avoided this thread because it looked boring.  I cant believe anyone is THAT gullible to believe this nonsense.  are people really that stupid to believe this crap??  For starters, how do the plan engineers who pull planes completely apart every year miss these poison canisters?  or are they suggesting that every flight mechanic is in on it?

I think I have found my proof that most people are stupid - very stupid.


many blessings weekender

still stinging again one such as I am observes

this was predicted and forewarned however

you may start on page 1 and start rebuttals

you have some catching up dear one and again

you are forewarned of impending grand exposure of your inadequacies again , and so

you have again been alerted unto your immanent dilemma

namaste

- : ) =



you are such a prize jerk.  it would be more entertaining if you would actually engage the debate with even a smidgen of logic and established fact, but you are (literally) too insane to understand those concepts.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:23pm:
Ive avoided this thread because it looked boring.  I cant believe anyone is THAT gullible to believe this nonsense.  are people really that stupid to believe this crap??  For starters, how do the plan engineers who pull planes completely apart every year miss these poison canisters?  or are they suggesting that every flight mechanic is in on it?

I think I have found my proof that most people are stupid - very stupid.


many blessings weekender

still stinging again one such as I am observes

this was predicted and forewarned however

you may start on page 1 and start rebuttals

you have some catching up dear one and again

you are forewarned of impending grand exposure of your inadequacies again , and so

you have again been alerted unto your immanent dilemma

namaste

- : ) =



you are such a prize jerk.  it would be more entertaining if you would actually engage the debate with even a smidgen of logic and established fact, but you are (literally) too insane to understand those concepts.


many blessings

start at page 1 and start rebuttals there

until then you may observe your lightweight stature in your mirror ..

you are again warned as you have made one step further to a total exposure of you inadequacies here

so all we have from you is limp wristed attacks and sour grapes

so start you rebuttals any time you like

until then be at peace

namaste

- : ) =



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:33pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:23pm:
Ive avoided this thread because it looked boring.  I cant believe anyone is THAT gullible to believe this nonsense.  are people really that stupid to believe this crap??  For starters, how do the plan engineers who pull planes completely apart every year miss these poison canisters?  or are they suggesting that every flight mechanic is in on it?

I think I have found my proof that most people are stupid - very stupid.


many blessings weekender

still stinging again one such as I am observes

this was predicted and forewarned however

you may start on page 1 and start rebuttals

you have some catching up dear one and again

you are forewarned of impending grand exposure of your inadequacies again , and so

you have again been alerted unto your immanent dilemma

namaste

- : ) =



you are such a prize jerk.  it would be more entertaining if you would actually engage the debate with even a smidgen of logic and established fact, but you are (literally) too insane to understand those concepts.


many blessings

start at page 1 and start rebuttals there

until then you may observe your lightweight stature in your mirror ..

you are again warned as you have made one step further to a total exposure of you inadequacies here

so all we have from you is limp wristed attacks and sour grapes

so start you rebuttals any time you like

until then be at peace

namaste

- : ) =



there are no poisoned contrails.  there is ZERO evidence to support it. Now I invite you to produce credible, peer-reviewed studies that conclude the opposite. and by 'peers' I mean academic peers, not asylum peers.

your surrender is accepted in the face of your utter inability to provide SUPPORTED evidence.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:40pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:33pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:14pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:41pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 5:23pm:
Ive avoided this thread because it looked boring.  I cant believe anyone is THAT gullible to believe this nonsense.  are people really that stupid to believe this crap??  For starters, how do the plan engineers who pull planes completely apart every year miss these poison canisters?  or are they suggesting that every flight mechanic is in on it?

I think I have found my proof that most people are stupid - very stupid.


many blessings weekender

still stinging again one such as I am observes

this was predicted and forewarned however

you may start on page 1 and start rebuttals

you have some catching up dear one and again

you are forewarned of impending grand exposure of your inadequacies again , and so

you have again been alerted unto your immanent dilemma

namaste

- : ) =



you are such a prize jerk.  it would be more entertaining if you would actually engage the debate with even a smidgen of logic and established fact, but you are (literally) too insane to understand those concepts.


many blessings

start at page 1 and start rebuttals there

until then you may observe your lightweight stature in your mirror ..

you are again warned as you have made one step further to a total exposure of you inadequacies here

so all we have from you is limp wristed attacks and sour grapes

so start you rebuttals any time you like

until then be at peace

namaste

- : ) =



there are no poisoned contrails.  there is ZERO evidence to support it. Now I invite you to produce credible, peer-reviewed studies that conclude the opposite. and by 'peers' I mean academic peers, not asylum peers.

your surrender is accepted in the face of your utter inability to provide SUPPORTED evidence.


many blessings

you have failed to rebut 22 pages here of posted ontopic information regarding chemtrails

you were forewarned of this dilemma you now find yourself trapped within

this was predicted and is why you were forewarned ..

yet there is one way out for one such as you are ,

riddled with fear as it is and so

start at page 1 and scientifically


Quote:
sci·en·tif·ic  (sn-tfk)
adj.
Of, relating to, or employing the methodology of science.
[Medieval Latin scientificus, producing knowledge : Latin scientia, knowledge; see science + Latin -ficus, -fic.]
scien·tifi·cal·ly adv.


rebut all posts in this thread ,

until then you are relegated to your predicted predicament

~ you were warned and so your veal is served

pls stick around and attempt to be clever as I feed you every piece on the plate

with so very much love

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:47pm

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by SpecialShirtFront on Dec 8th, 2014 at 7:20pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 8th, 2014 at 6:40pm:
this was predicted and is why you were forewarned ..

yet there is one way out for one such as you are ,

riddled with fear as it is and so


Master light, he is but a victim of the establishment. Keep trying, you may get through to him in the end.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:07pm
many blessings

dinner is served .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-5VnMIiKPY

Italians Blow Chemtrails ‘Secret War’ Lid Off With Film (Watch Here)
Sunday, December 21, 2014 18:00

http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/12/italians-blow-lid-off-chemtrails-with-secret-war-film-watch-here-2449414.html

with so very much love

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Gullibility
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:21pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:07pm:
many blessings

dinner is served .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-5VnMIiKPY

Italians Blow Chemtrails ‘Secret War’ Lid Off With Film (Watch Here)
Sunday, December 21, 2014 18:00

http://beforeitsnews.com/chemtrails/2014/12/italians-blow-lid-off-chemtrails-with-secret-war-film-watch-here-2449414.html

with so very much love

namaste

- : ) =

Of course....Do you want to buy a Bridge????

Sigh, I remember the old days, when loonies  just stood on street corners, wearing signs saying "The End of the World is Nigh"...now they all have websites, and other loons who repost their crap.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality

and you are acting like a very scared little rabbit .. fear not .. yet all have freewill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqqYKC6-rm8

so be it

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 25th, 2014 at 4:06pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.


evidence is never needed - only schizophrenia and/or the IQ of a dog.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 25th, 2014 at 4:33pm
..

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Dec 25th, 2014 at 4:34pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25th, 2014 at 4:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.


evidence is never needed - only schizophrenia and/or the IQ of a dog.


That's a bit harsh, I've know some fairly smart dogs..

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 25th, 2014 at 4:58pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.


many blessings and goodness gracious !

first you deny the truth

in that you take vaccines , then you admit you have taken them in the past

and you plan to take more vaccines in the future ..

yet you " do not ususally take vaccines "

but wait there more ,

you admit to taking more drugs from the chemist

you are drugged up , but not limited to the eyeballs

you are forgiven for any and all definitions

of the mania you experience

drugged up as you are .. and lol ..

the opportunist weekender is on a hope

that someone anyone can attack light with any substance

yet weekender , you and I both know

you have had many more of the veal than you would or could ever desire ..

to choose empty pockets as your champion only

dishes up your favourite meal ...



and here it is so please stay here and try to be clever

as you will be made to digest the entire plate

be at peace

namaste

- : ) =



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by longweekend58 on Dec 25th, 2014 at 6:19pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 25th, 2014 at 4:34pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25th, 2014 at 4:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.


evidence is never needed - only schizophrenia and/or the IQ of a dog.


That's a bit harsh, I've know some fairly smart dogs..


yeah just as I wrote it I figured some dogs are brighter than people on here.  I suspect they can even count better than Karnal and George. and let's face it... wh outside of the worst loony bins ISNT smarter then Light???

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Grappler (50 shades of) on Dec 25th, 2014 at 6:31pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6_WPJE8gy4

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Dec 25th, 2014 at 7:26pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 25th, 2014 at 4:06pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.


evidence is never needed - only schizophrenia and/or the IQ of a dog.


what about drug addicts like gizmo and on the topic weekender

do you take vaccines like the addict gizmo ?

or are toxic chemtrails enough for you..

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Feb 12th, 2015 at 3:33pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IencKa6A7m8


2/11/2015 -- Aircraft CAUGHT SPRAYING live on RADAR -- Making an actual "Storm"!

Published on Feb 11, 2015
Aircraft caught spraying over the WHOLE of South Florida -- Weather Modification after sunset seen live on RADAR

Actually produces a storm return, and storm designation from the National Weather Service!

Full website post covering this event here: http://dutchsinse.com/2112015-aircraf...

____

Hidden by the cover of night, beginning just after sunset on February 11 2015, a series of aircraft deposited multiple plumes of unknown substances over the entire Southern portion of Florida.

Key West Naval Air Station at the very center of this RADAR display (where the RADAR is location) is NOT really covered by these aircraft. Thus eliminating “military chaff” over the air station as the “cause” of these long lasting jet plumes.

Let’s not forget to mention the size of this aerosol release, covering multiple thousand square miles in less than a few hours with at LEAST 10 different jets.

We know these are jet aircraft due to their speed, and we know its not a “chaff” release to hide the base, since these aerosols were left across the State , then travel out to the Atlantic ocean (opposite direction of any military base in the USA).
Category
Science & Technology

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The_Barnacle_Oh_Yeah on Feb 26th, 2015 at 9:28pm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
chemtrails_001.jpg (120 KB | 84 )

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 1st, 2015 at 7:58pm
http://thecontrail.com/video/chemtrail-cognizance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__N1WMb4voA


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 1st, 2015 at 5:32am
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-30/defence-personnel-call-for-jet-fuel-inquiry-range-of-illnesses/6583982

RAAF jet fuel: Defence personnel call for inquiry after reporting wide range of serious illnesses

By the National Reporting Team's Dan Oakes and Sam Clark
Updated about 6 hours ago


PHOTO: Personnel exposed to jet fuel over many years are suffering a range of illnesses. (Department of Defence, file photo)

Current and former Defence Force personnel are calling for a wide-ranging inquiry into whether thousands of servicemen and women have suffered serious illnesses due to exposure to toxic jet fuel.

The ABC has spoken to dozens of men and women who served in the Army, Air Force and Navy over the past five decades who believe their health, or that of their loved ones, has been detrimentally affected through working with fuel and other chemicals.

Some also say Defence has been aware for many years of the dangers of fuel exposure, but did not enforce the workplace precautions necessary to protect Defence personnel.

Defence has made ex-gratia compensation payments to people who worked on the infamous F-111 deseal/reseal project, and suffered from depression, skin complaints, gastro-intestinal problems, erectile dysfunction and an increased risk of cancer.


The project involved climbing into fuel tanks, dissolving the sealant within the tanks, and then re-sealing them with another substance.

Defence and the Government said people who worked on the project were exposed to a unique mixture of chemicals, including the solvent and a sealant.

Former and current Defence Force members have unsuccessfully pleaded with Defence to widen the study to include the thousands of other servicemen and women who worked with fuel.

Toxins travel around the body, affect organs: study

In April the ABC revealed that a study commissioned by Defence had found that the fuel itself was more toxic to the body's cells than the solvent and sealant in isolation, and more toxic still when it was combined with those substances.

The study also found that the damaging components of the fuel can be carried around the body to affect organs, rather than just the areas directly exposed to the fuel.

At the time, Defence head of occupational health Ian Gardner admitted this had the potential to dramatically widen the pool of people who could claim compensation for health impacts suffered as a result of their service.

The study also raised the possibility the cell damage caused by fuel could be passed on to future generation through a process known as epigenetics.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 16th, 2015 at 7:07am
many blessings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j88BcgzzcTc

Bases at Woodborough - Harald Kautz Vella (Black Goo)

Published on Jul 15, 2015
Harald Kautz-Vella presents his detailed lecture on the two types of Black Goo, Morgellons, and Artificial Intelligence at the Bases Woodborough conference held on June 20th.
He will present a further lecture at the Bases International conference on August 1st, see details at thebasesproject.org site, and
tickets at www.ticketsource.co.uk/date/178443
This conference presents cutting edge data of such importance some has yet to reach a text book.Much is developing by the day. With further new information on the A-I and the Black Goo, only being discovered in recent days.

3rd edit, with additional Morgellons video
Harald presented a 3hr interview in Bases 46. He is co-author of Dangerous Immagination Silent Assimilation with Cara St Louis, who was interviewed in Bases 45 with further parts to come.
Category
Education

any being commenting here without researching this data

and the fact of chemical trails

or chemtrails being taught as a requirement at the US Air Force Academy .

any dupe commenting here without this knowledge of fact

will be disregarded as a willing and content ignoramus ..

yet be at peace for you are loved within your stupor

namaste

- : )  =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 25th, 2015 at 10:10pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.


many blessings ,

gizmo is a self confessed drug fiend ..

exposed yet forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jul 27th, 2015 at 5:44pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.


many blessings ,

gizmo is a self confessed drug fiend ..

exposed yet forgiven

namaste

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
It took you 8 MONTHS to come up with that comment?????

Were you locked up (in the nut-house) and didn't have any net access for all that time???

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 27th, 2015 at 5:46pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.


many blessings ,

gizmo is a self confessed drug fiend ..

exposed yet forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jul 27th, 2015 at 6:24pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 5:46pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 25th, 2015 at 10:10pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 3:07pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 24th, 2014 at 4:52am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 9:39pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 23rd, 2014 at 7:27pm:
many blessings

gizmo is upset once again

these things are happening in your reality


- : ) =


Well, NO they are NOT  in 'my reality'...they are only happening in YOUR very disturbed (and possibly) drug addle 'reality'...the actual REAL world doesn't include things like 'Chemtrails, aliens, HAARP' etc


many blessings

one such as I am forgives you for unfounded accusations

be at peace and inhale your chemicals .. and to be correct gizmo .. it is you whom take drugs is it not ?

with your admitted addiction to vaccines

you are a self confessed mercury junky .

so you are forgiven

namaste

- : ) =

Again, no, I don't usually take vaccines, although I will next year, I also take a few medicinal drugs for various conditions.
I don't have any issue with vaccinations, since there's actually zero credible evidence of any link between autism and vaccination (or any of the other various delusions idiots carry on about). Also, zero evidence of the existence of 'chemicals' in the contrails left by high flying aircraft.


many blessings ,

gizmo is a self confessed drug fiend ..

exposed yet forgiven

namaste


No actual response, other than a repost of the stupid comment you made???

Ok, so keep calm and try the veal...

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 27th, 2015 at 6:33pm
many blessings gizmo ,

the problem you have is

you are a self confessed drug addict ...

you seem in discomfort upon this revelation

brought unto all by your very own keyboard ..

yet you accuse others of being that which you are

your dirty little secret is exposed

yet fear not for ye are loved ,

does this comfort unto thee ?

im interested in forgiveness

without your drugs

namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:53pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 6:33pm:
many blessings gizmo ,

the problem you have is

you are a self confessed drug addict ...

you seem in discomfort upon this revelation

brought unto all by your very own keyboard ..

yet you accuse others of being that which you are

your dirty little secret is exposed

yet fear not for ye are loved ,

does this comfort unto thee ?

im interested in forgiveness

without your drugs

namaste


And the problem YOU have, is the inability to provide a 'intelligent' response to my post.....which isn't really a surprise, since you are in fact barking mad... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:55pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:53pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 6:33pm:
many blessings gizmo ,

the problem you have is

you are a self confessed drug addict ...

you seem in discomfort upon this revelation

brought unto all by your very own keyboard ..

yet you accuse others of being that which you are

your dirty little secret is exposed

yet fear not for ye are loved ,

does this comfort unto thee ?

im interested in forgiveness

without your drugs

namaste


And the problem YOU have, is the inability to provide a 'intelligent' response to my post.....which isn't really a surprise, since you are in fact barking mad... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


many blessings ,

so you admit you are a drug addict ?

carry on regardless

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:57pm
however

your drug problem is an attribute unto your ignorance

yet you are offtopic here, as we continue ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOYA54k_8e0

London hit by Chemtrails on Sunday 7:15am 12th April 2015 12/04/15

namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:08pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
however

your drug problem is an attribute unto your ignorance

yet you are offtopic here, as we continue ..



namaste




Gizmo likes the drink.

He admitted once to polishing off a whole slab of VB stubbies in one day.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:17pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
however

your drug problem is an attribute unto your ignorance

yet you are offtopic here, as we continue ..



namaste




Gizmo likes the drink.

He admitted once to polishing off a whole slab of VB stubbies in one day.


No I didn't Bobby..I don't drink VB all that often ( I don't like the taste). Wharfy is STILL an idiot with his idea that vaccines are 'narcotics', it really says more about him than it does about other people (and might explain why he won't take the medication his shrink prescribes)  :o :o :o :o

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sir Bobby on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:41pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
however

your drug problem is an attribute unto your ignorance

yet you are offtopic here, as we continue ..



namaste




Gizmo likes the drink.

He admitted once to polishing off a whole slab of VB stubbies in one day.


No I didn't Bobby..I don't drink VB all that often ( I don't like the taste). Wharfy is STILL an idiot with his idea that vaccines are 'narcotics', it really says more about him than it does about other people (and might explain why he won't take the medication his shrink prescribes)  :o :o :o :o



Dear Gizmo -

if it wasn't VB then it was another beer.
Don't you remember the yahoo days? -
you used to boast about all the beer you drunk.  ;)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:41pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
however

your drug problem is an attribute unto your ignorance

yet you are offtopic here, as we continue ..



namaste




Gizmo likes the drink.

He admitted once to polishing off a whole slab of VB stubbies in one day.


No I didn't Bobby..I don't drink VB all that often ( I don't like the taste). Wharfy is STILL an idiot with his idea that vaccines are 'narcotics', it really says more about him than it does about other people (and might explain why he won't take the medication his shrink prescribes)  :o :o :o :o



Dear Gizmo -

if it wasn't VB then it was another beer.
Don't you remember the yahoo days? -
you used to boast about all the beer you drunk.  ;)


many blessings sir bobby and yes ,

alcohol addiction is another attribute of the disorder

the self confessed drug addict gizmo has attested to

delusionary concepts of reality

lets celebrate this latest revelation with

the gift of music ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGB-Z3y_8l4

KEVIN BLOODY WILSON Last Lager Waltz

disclaimer aussie iconic humor and language
imminent

strewth

namaste

- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jul 27th, 2015 at 10:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:41pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
however

your drug problem is an attribute unto your ignorance

yet you are offtopic here, as we continue ..



namaste




Gizmo likes the drink.

He admitted once to polishing off a whole slab of VB stubbies in one day.


No I didn't Bobby..I don't drink VB all that often ( I don't like the taste). Wharfy is STILL an idiot with his idea that vaccines are 'narcotics', it really says more about him than it does about other people (and might explain why he won't take the medication his shrink prescribes)  :o :o :o :o



Dear Gizmo -

if it wasn't VB then it was another beer.
Don't you remember the yahoo days? -
you used to boast about all the beer you drunk.  ;)


Yeah, but it wasn't VB though.

Oh and Wharfy/The_Light is still an idiot who needs to take his meds..

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jul 27th, 2015 at 10:45pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 10:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 9:41pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:17pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 8:08pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jul 27th, 2015 at 7:57pm:
however

your drug problem is an attribute unto your ignorance

yet you are offtopic here, as we continue ..



namaste




Gizmo likes the drink.

He admitted once to polishing off a whole slab of VB stubbies in one day.


No I didn't Bobby..I don't drink VB all that often ( I don't like the taste). Wharfy is STILL an idiot with his idea that vaccines are 'narcotics', it really says more about him than it does about other people (and might explain why he won't take the medication his shrink prescribes)  :o :o :o :o



Dear Gizmo -

if it wasn't VB then it was another beer.
Don't you remember the yahoo days? -
you used to boast about all the beer you drunk.  ;)


Yeah, but it wasn't VB though.

Oh and Wharfy/The_Light is still an idiot who needs to take his meds..




- : ) =

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Aug 5th, 2015 at 6:50am
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2015/08/chemtrails-addressed-at-the-united-nations-3194694.html

Chemtrails Addressed At The United Nations

Tuesday, August 4, 2015 10:15



by Gregg Prescott, M.S.
Editor, In5D.com

After years of denial of chemtrails by the U.S. government, the topic of chemtrails was finally discussed at the United Nations. Rosalind Peterson, California President and Co-Founder of the Agriculture Defense Coalition (ADC), addressed the United Nations regarding the dangers of chemtrails. Additionally, Peterson discussed man-made warming and the change and impact of agricultural crop production along with the chemical detriments of the toxic ingredients in the chemtrail composition.

Chemtrails are a form of aerial dispersal of toxic chemicals which not only affect the ability of the sun to reach the planet, thus causing global warming, but also weakens our immunity systems through its cocktail of harmful ingredients, such as barium sulfate, strontium, and aluminum.  A chemtrail will linger and expand in the sky, lasting up to 20 hours.

Planet X August 2015 Nibiru Is Definatly Getting Closer

Urgent! 2015 Is The Beginning Of The End! — Rebecca Sterling 1999 Vision Of 2015

Contrails, conversely, are quickly dissipating condensation trails.

Through what Peterson calls “Global Dimming”, solar power is reduced by chemtrails, which reduces photosynthesis, and in turn will ultimately impact agriculture.

Peterson stated, “If you take and put up into our skies chemicals to reduce the amount of sunlight reaching the Earth, you are going to begin to reduce crop production.  Studies at the University of Illinois on crop production show reductions.  Without the process of photosynthesis, whereby plants from direct sunlight gain the energy to grow to produce crops, we’re going to find ourselves, if we mitigate in that direction, impacting the crop production, not only here in the United States, but worldwide.”

One of the slide Peterson presented to the United Nation showed the acknowledgement of chemtrails by NASA, calling them “Persistent Jet Contrails”.



While jets have been flying the skies since the 1940’s, it wasn’t until recently that this new term of “Persistent Jet Contrails” has arisen.  Why?  Because they didn’t exist until the 1980’s, when chemtrails started to become prevalent.  Through activism and researchers such asDane Wigington, chemtrails are acknowledged by many people as a means for both global warming and depopulation by the globalists.
Peterson added, “The reason I am concerned for agriculture is that none of the experiments have any public oversight nor agricultural oversight.  Our drinking water is impacted because the chemicals are now beginning to show up in our drinking water.”

These chemicals, according to Peterson, have shown up in the State Department of Health drinking water tests examined between 1970 and this year and include a spike in the amounts of barium, aluminum, strontium, magnesium, calcium, and manganese, all of which spiked at the same time in both California and Arizona.

https://youtu.be/L5is16A8pfw


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 12th, 2015 at 10:23am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 10th, 2014 at 1:36pm:
Lol wheres the chemical analysis of the chemtrails? Seriously Taipan, drug free is better


http://www.shadethemotionpicture.com/?p=80

C-130 aircraft caught dropping massive ‘raindrop shaped fibers’ onto populace, lab tests confirm “metals”



Independent lab tests point to mainstream cover-up of live biowarfare, geoengineering testing

By Shepard Ambellas

CHINO VALLEY, Ariz. (INTELLIHUB.COM) — Marie Snow and her friend Cori Gunnels knew they stumbled across something sinister, one November day, this year, when they saw what appeared to be 50 to 60-foot long “raindrops”, “solid” in nature, falling from the sky in clusters, after three military aircraft, including a C-130, flew overhead, minutes prior, at an altitude of an estimated 5,000-8,000 ft.

Using critical thinking skills, Snow and Gunnels, patriots and local residents, decided to collect samples of the fibrous material which was deployed from the three military planes earlier that day, saving the samples for testing. In fact, the fibers looked so ominous that Snow even opted not to touch them with her “bare hands” and collected them on “white pieces of paper”.


Visible fibers, 50 to 60 feet long, left after three military aircraft were flying at approx. 5,000-8,000 ft. altitude. (Photo Credit: Marie Snow)

Soon after, Snow, determined to know the truth, contacted her local news station, KPHO, CBS 5, inviting them to investigate her fibrous discovery.

Within days, CBS 5 took Snow up on her offer, sending reporter Greg Argos to investigate the fibrous samples she collected off of the natural terrain and nearby fence posts, also noting her eyewitness account to the 3 military aircraft which flew overhead that day. However, what happened after CBS 5 interviewed Snow may shock you.

According to Argos’ video piece, published Nov. 18, by CBS 5, samples of the unusual fibers, which are “thicker than a spider web and “very strong”, were taken to Grand Canyon University’s Forensic Science Lab for testing where a woman by the name of “Melissa Beddow” allegedly tested the samples under “40 times magnification”.

As reported in the Argos piece, Beddow stated that the fibrous samples were likely “biodegradable gauze” from “nearby cattle farms”, made up of “a mixture of wheat, gluten, flour and bacitracin, an antibiotic” in what the network touted as a “straight story”.

However, after the local news piece aired, Snow and others were skeptical of Argos’ findings. Snow was soon after urged by Al DiCicco, who appears in the documentary film “Shade the Motion Picture”, a film about covert and sinister bioweapons testing programs, to contact Intellihub News and get independent testing of the samples done by a reputable lab. And that’s just what Marie Snow did.

On Nov. 22, Snow reached out to me, [Intellihub's Shepard Ambellas] to gather yet another opinion on how to proceed after something just didn’t feel right to Snow about KPHO, CBS 5’s report.

Once contacted by Snow, I, myself, recommended just what my friend Al DiCicco told her to do, “get some independent testing done”as we could than later do a “powerful article” if the results differed from KPHO, CBS 5’s findings.

And again, that’s just what Snow and Gunnels did, sending the samples to a credible lab, a testing facility located in Redding California to properly and scientifically carry out tests of several fibrous samples.

Days after, the actual results came back from the lab, and what was found may shock you.

The work orders, numbered “14K0279“, dated Dec. 4, 2014 and “14K0683“, dated Dec. 2, 2014, stated that “All analysis were performed under strict adherence to our established Quality Assurance Plan” and that “solid” “fibers” were submitted by “Marie Snow” for “general testing”.



Astonishingly, both tests concluded that both samples indeed tested positive for three metal analytes, “Aluminum”, “barium” and “strontium”, three substances commonly known by dedicated researchers to be found in persistent contrails, i.e. chemtrails and or geoengineering, terraforming operations as pointed out by investigative researcher, activist, Rosalind Peterson, Agriculture Defense Coalition, in Shade the Motion Picture.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 17th, 2016 at 6:01am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPe2lRMkcE0

NASA Admit To Spraying Americans With Poisonous Chemtrails

http://yournewswire.com/nasa-admit-to-spraying-americans-with-poisonous-chemtrails/

NASA Admit To Spraying Americans With Poisonous Chemtrails

Posted on April 10, 2016 by Sean Adl-Tabatabai in Sci/Environment



NASA have admitted to spraying lethal chemtrails into our atmosphere – saying that lithium being sprayed into the Earths ionosphere helps to treat people with manic depression or bi-polar disorder.

NASA personnel have come forward saying that lithium, along with other potentially harmful chemicals, are intentionally sprayed into our environment regularly.

Wakingtimes.com reports:

It is possible that many of NASA’s own employees aren’t even aware of the true motivations for carrying out such a project, ironically displaying the very behaviors that these chemicals/pharmaceuticals are meant to instill.

In the first bomb-shell video a NASA employee (Douglas.e.rowland@nasa.gov) admits that lithium is being sprayed in the atmosphere, and says that it is “harmless to the environment.”

https://youtu.be/3Z2iRormxkw

Before I give you NASA’s official explanation of why they are spraying psych-meds over hundreds of thousands of Americans, I’d like to point you to some references so that you can do your own research, and discover that this is no conspiracy theory. It is very real, and there is ample scientific documentation to corroborate what I put forth here:

A Pub Med abstract titled, Feasibility of Aerosol Vaccinations in Humans discusses how an increase in antigen volumes can be beneficial in aerosol delivery of vaccines, and could be used in “developing countries and disaster areas.” The abstract also admits that several thousand human subjects have already been aerosol vaccinated with live attenuated measles and influenza A vaccines. The executive summary further states that aerosol vaccinations are ideal for “large populations.” This has apparently been happening since as early as 2003.

Another discussion of aerosolized vaccinations can be found in The New England Journal of Medicine. A Randomized, Controlled Trial of Aerosolized Vaccines Against Measles states that these vaccines were tested on children in India that were as young 9 months old.

The World Health Organization has been researching aerosol vaccines for years now, as have “philanthropic” agencies which have clear aims to sterilize the population. It is also worth noting that the pharmaceutical industry has been absolved from any legal responsibility for medicating the masses since they were awarded  legal protection from all lawsuits by Congress in 1986. This law was challenged, but upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2011. Many powerful agencies are making sure that we “take our medicine.”

In fact, many nations are participating in our unwitting, forced vaccination, and the dumping of any number of attenuated viruses, chemical concoctions and other ‘chemtrails’ on our heads with dogged frequency.

The Office of the Gene Technology Regulator (OGTR) considered giving a license application to PaxVax Australia (PaxVax) for the intentional release of a GMO vaccine consisting of live bacteria into the environment in Queensland, South Australia, Western Australia and Victoria. They planned to release cholera on their people.

According to the regulator, this GMO vaccine qualified as a limited and controlled release under section 50A of the Gene Technology Act 2000.

Of course, we can’t ignore the USA. Michael Greenwood wrote an article stating that:

“The incidence of human West Nile virus cases can be significantly reduced through large–scale aerial spraying that targets adult mosquitoes, according to research by the Yale School of Public Health and the California Department of Public Health.”

So, hopefully we’ve established that this IS happening. But why?

As more nations refuse genetically modified food, and refuse to drink fluoridated water, which has beennamed as a neurotoxin by one of the world’s premiere medical journals, the power structure that desires a complicit population has to figure out a way to alter our neurochemistry.

Lithium alters how we think by changing the levels of serotonin and norepinephrine secreted by our endocrine system. Lithium strongly alters the brain system, yet the NASA employee in the above video states that “it is not dangerous” and doesn’t harm the population. Even doctors who normally prescribe this medication for the mentally ill have said that it is dangerous because it is hard to figure out proper dosing. Surely, spraying copious amounts of lithium indiscriminately into the air via aerosols should be questioned – but here’s NASA’s official stance on this practice:

“The project is studying neutral and charged particles in the ionosphere and how each affects the way the other moves resulting in currents in the region. The variations matter because all of our communications and GPS satellites send signals through the ionosphere. A disturbed ionosphere translates to disturbed signals, so scientists want to know just what causes the ionosphere to behave in specific ways.” (NASA)


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 17th, 2016 at 6:02am
Meanwhile, should the over-medicated start to actually figure out what is being done to them, the government has imposed gag orders on the National Weather Service (NWS) and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) who might easily refute the ridiculous claims of NASA.

Notably, every single person who works for NASA, the NWS or NOAA are paid with tax payer dollars.This means that we are paying to be medicated and poisoned.

Here, to corroborate information being given by the NASA employee in the video, is the Code 8440 RMMO which states the exact purpose of using Wallops Flight Facility to launch a rocket containing lithium thermite:

“Purpose: The primary purpose of this mission was to test the loading methods for lithium canisters to be flown on the upcoming Kudeki (Kwajalein, April 2013) and Pfaff (Wallops, June 2013) missions, and verify their functionality under sounding rocket launch and space flight conditions.

Rocket Type: Two-stage Terrier MK70 Improved-Orion

Location: Wallops Range

Launcher: MRL

Date of Launch: January 29, 2013

Time: 17:50 EST

Experiment results: Thermistor data looked nominal. Good report from airborne optical platform of recorded video and lithium clouds also visible by ground observation.’

We also learn from this specific call that lithium has been dumped in our skies since 1970. If you wanted to medicate the masses to create mindless, slave-like prisoners who didn’t even know they were imprisoned, this is surely a good way to do it. Spraying lithium into our skies, along with countless other bacteria, viruses, prions, parasites, fungi, carcinogens, toxins, hormone-altering drugs, anti-flora and anti-fauna, as well as gene-altering micro-dust is nothing more than bio-warfare against the world’s citizenry. You can call them chemtrails or something else, the effect is the same.

“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. …We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized.Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smoothly functioning society. …In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons…who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” ~Edward L. Bernays, Master Propagandist

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 25th, 2016 at 11:00am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGLy8g5NGY

Disclose TV Interviews David DuByne ADAPT 2030 | Mini Ice Age 2015-2035 (141)

Published on Mar 5, 2016
Disclose TV Interviews David DuByne ADAPT 2030 for an hour covering topics of Global Cooling, Mini Ice Age, Earth Changes, Cosmic Radiation Management, Grand Solar Minimum, Genetic Seed Modification Cold Stress Patents, Ocean Temperatures Cooling; AMO, PDO, Indian Dipole, AOO and ENSO.

http://twoicefloes.com/your-turn/cont...
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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 27th, 2016 at 8:01am
http://www.oom2.com/t37931-new-black-chemtrails-reported-worldwide#85675

New BLACK Chemtrails Reported Worldwide!

Word of chemtrails has been pacing the internet for years, but if you were a person saying that they are fake, there will be no denying this. Black chemtrails are all over the skies, it is a new phenomenon with reports increasing world wide. You will not believe your eyes!
In the video below you will see other chemtrails not making a shadow directly beside one that is making a shadow, so the theories about shadows cannot be correct. The fact is, clouds cast shadows on the ground, not the sky, therefore, we do not see chemtrail shadows on the ground and we do not see cloud shadows in the sky. They spray a line of black and then go directly over the line and spray with white, making a shadow effect! It is absolutely crazy!



What are they spraying on us, and why has it become black instead of white? Please do not say that it is a passenger jet because it is much too big to be a normal passenger jet. Please watch the following video below, and you will not believe what you are seeing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M9oo1jTvvo

The darker chemtrails are intended to assist in a dramatic change in a weather pattern. They used them here in New England a few years ago to create an ice storm that knocked out power for 10 days......4 days before the storm, this huge dark circling vortex was hovering above the area...It was freaky to see....then POOF...an ice storm as never before seen hits...Total shutdown.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 28th, 2016 at 4:55am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcjfeb4-E4U

Chuck Norris Takes On Chemtrails

Published on Apr 27, 2016
Actor and activist Chuck Norris called out the “sky criminals” in his latest op-ed examining several pieces of evidence showing a global geoengineering scheme may possibly already be underway.

http://www.infowars.com/chuck-norris-takes-on-chemtrails/




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 28th, 2016 at 6:45am
Chemtrails are nonsense:

http://contrailscience.com/what-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/14-10-15/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqG6YV09fY

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 28th, 2016 at 7:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 6:45am:
Chemtrails are nonsense:

http://contrailscience.com/what-in-the-world-are-they-spraying/

http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/14-10-15/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHqG6YV09fY


many blessings sir bobby

your hero admits and actually lectures on chemtrails here ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGLy8g5NGY

and so will you be telling david he is a conspiracy theorist ?

im interested

namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 28th, 2016 at 7:40pm
If David DuByne believes it then it must be true.

namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 28th, 2016 at 7:41pm

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 28th, 2016 at 7:42pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
If David DuByne believes it then it must be true.

namaste


so you didnt even watch his video ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGLy8g5NGY

some amateur sycophant you turned out to be

forgiven

namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sir Bobby on Apr 28th, 2016 at 7:44pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 7:42pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 7:40pm:
If David DuByne believes it then it must be true.

namaste


so you didnt even watch his video ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTGLy8g5NGY

some amateur sycophant you turned out to be

forgiven

namaste




Dear master Light,
I'm listening to it now but so far it was only mentioned.

forgiven

namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 8th, 2016 at 12:43pm
http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/code840/lithium.html

Lithium Thermite Test Flight



Purpose: The primary purpose of this mission was to test the loading methods for lithium canisters to be flown on the upcoming Kudeki (Kwajalein, April 2013) and Pfaff (Wallops, June 2013) missions, and verify their functionality under sounding rocket launch and space flight conditions.

Rocket Type: Two-stage Terrier MK70 Improved-Orion

Location: Wallops Range

Launcher: MRL

Date of Launch: January 29, 2013

Time: 17:50 EST

Experiment results: Thermistor data looked nominal. Good report from airborne optical platform of recorded video and lithium clouds also visible by ground observation.

http://www.naturalnews.com/055183_chemtrails_NASA_lithium.html

NASA admits to spraying Americans with poisonous chemtrails





http://www.chemtrailsnews.com/

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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Sep 30th, 2016 at 9:01am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIMy5Q0BXEE

Amazing UFO Destroys Chemtrail, Alien Technology? UFOs protecting Earth? Sept 2016

09/28/16 - 19:41 I caught an extraordinary UFO sighting. I was watching an odd looking light crossing the sky at variable speeds around my house, during the sunset. To me it was just some sort of helicopter, or maybe a drone. But after 5 or 10 minutes, I began suspecting the object not to be man-made. It was performing weird maneuvers, accelerating and decelerating randomly. When the light started to accelerate towards a huge Chemtrail, I took my camcorder and tried to find it in the distance.

The object stopped in front of the Chemtrail, and slowly destroyed it. Indeed, the trail was being "consumed" progressively. I was simply speechless. I still can't believe what I caught. The Chemtrail got literally perforated! I can't be 100% sure it's due to the object itself, but I'm sure there's a link between it and the Chemtrail. Such a huge trail can't just disappear like that, for no reason! And only a small portion of the trail gets erased, justly around the object!

After the UFO attacked the trail, it moved backwards and flied West, in my opposite direction. It disappeared pretty quickly.

Sorry for zooming out a little bit too early, my camcorder screen is really small, and doesn't have that much pixels... The object got so far away at the end, I simply thought it was not there anymore.

What was that object? Man-made prototype to delete Chemtrails? Some extra-terrestrial technology made to protect us? (maybe a bit far-fetched, but seriously, have you ever seen that before?) I just don't have a clue of what this is.

Feel free to tell me your opinion in the comments below. :)

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ISO: Auto
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Aperture: Auto
WB: Auto
Filmed with ➫ Canon M52

Type ➫ Light interacting with its environment
Scale ➫ Unknown
Duration ➫ ~ 45 seconds
Color(s) ➫ White
Light(s) ➫ Yes
Speed ➫ Variable

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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by jmjcare on Sep 30th, 2016 at 8:43pm
HAARP - Chemtrails - How They are Changing You - Bioengineering

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5y1WorkLJw

also

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2016/05/34-minute-video-shows-chemtrail-emissions-specific-sprayers-refuting-arguments-engineenvironmental-effects-110-minute-video-explains-sprayed-like-bugs-enough-d.html

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by jmjcare on Sep 30th, 2016 at 9:02pm
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/chemtrail-syndrome-a-global-pandemic-of-epic-proportions-2/




https://chemtrailsplanet.net/2015/11/07/morgellons-disease-self-replicating-alien-fibers-sprayed-with-chemtrails/

MORGELLONS MORPHOLOGY  (2006 - Revised 2010)

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-morphology.htm

Declassified NZ Defence Force Reports Reveal Chemtrail Linked To Outbreak Of Illnesses

https://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/declassified-nz-defence-force-reports-reveal-a-chemtrail-was-linked-to-outbreak-of-illnesses/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The_Barnacle on Oct 1st, 2016 at 12:59pm
Science Officially Debunks Chemtrails, But the Conspiracy Will Likely Live On


So, if it’s not a government program, why do many people claim to see more and more contrails? Emerson says airplane contrails are likely lasting longer than they used to due to changes in jet engine technology. In addition, an increase in air travel over the last couple decades could also be fueling the belief in chemtrails, says Caldeira, and atmospheric changes from global warming may cause the artificial clouds to linger longer than they used to.


http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/science-officially-debunks-chemtrails-conspiracy-live-180960139/?no-ist

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Oct 1st, 2016 at 1:13pm

jmjcare wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 9:02pm:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/chemtrail-syndrome-a-global-pandemic-of-epic-proportions-2/




https://chemtrailsplanet.net/2015/11/07/morgellons-disease-self-replicating-alien-fibers-sprayed-with-chemtrails/

MORGELLONS MORPHOLOGY  (2006 - Revised 2010)

http://www.morgellons-research.org/morgellons/morgellons-morphology.htm

Declassified NZ Defence Force Reports Reveal Chemtrail Linked To Outbreak Of Illnesses

https://chemtrailsnorthnz.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/declassified-nz-defence-force-reports-reveal-a-chemtrail-was-linked-to-outbreak-of-illnesses/



This is a little snippet of the standard of report you linked.


By Clare Swinney

Among a recently-released assortment of declassified reports of sightings of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) from New Zealand, dating from 1952-2009, were letters written in 1999 and 2000 by a concerned citizen, who predicted that an outbreak of illnesses would occur after an “aircraft contrail,”  otherwise known as a ‘chemtrail’, was seen over a populated area.



A "contrail" is a condensation trail and a 'chemtrail' is conspiraloon horsesh1t and has nothing at all to do with contrails.


Once that basics are wrong, you can ignore the rest.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by jmjcare on Oct 1st, 2016 at 8:28pm
Chemtrails, which are also commonly referred to as aerosols, differ from aircraft vapour trails in that they often linger in the sky for hours and can be seen in grid-like patterns, in parallel lines (see above) or forming ‘X’s  in the sky.

While seeing a chemtrail does not constitute proof that the illnesses were caused by it, it is worth examining the issue, given all the evidence which shows that chemtrails are making people sick, and in light of what is known about their composition.[/b]

Chemtrails Vs Contrails... There's a MASSIVE Difference!!! Check these out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEFITGpXwZk

A Comparison: Chemtrail versus Contrail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrN3QPnQUqo

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jf0khstYDLA




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The_Barnacle on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 10:13am

jmjcare wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 8:28pm:
Chemtrails, which are also commonly referred to as aerosols, differ from aircraft vapour trails in that they often linger in the sky for hours and can be seen in grid-like patterns, in parallel lines (see above) or forming ‘X’s  in the sky.


No that is wrong.
They are all condensation trails.


Quote:
contrails last anywhere from less than a second, up to several hours. If depends on the atmospheric conditions at the altitude the plane is flying.
http://contrailscience.com/how-long-do-contrails-last/


If the air is dry (i.e. there is little water vapor in it), then the ice crystals will quickly sublimate into vapor, and the trail will vanish quickly.

However, if the air already has a lot of water vapor in it, then the ice will sublimate slower, and the trail will last longer.

If the air has so much water vapor in it already that it can’t hold any more (i.e. it’s “supersaturated”), then the ice crystals can’t sublimate, and so the contrail will stay around for a long time. The ice crystals might even attract water from the air, if there is enough, and the contrail will get thicker. Winds might make the contrail spread out to even cover the whole sky.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by jmjcare on Oct 4th, 2016 at 8:40pm
The United Nations Exposes Chemtrails 100% PROOF We Are Being Poisoned

By now everyone has witnessed streaks of white trailing across the sky, stretching from horizon to horizon, ultimately turning the skies into a murky haze. We can no longer ignore the fact that our skies are being heavily polluted with aluminium, barium, lead, arsenic, chromium, cadmium, selenium, and silver. All of which attribute to a host of health problems including: neurological effects, heart damage, eyesight issues, reproduction failures, immune system damage, gastrointestinal disorders, damaged kidney, damaged liver, hormonal problems, and more.

The truth is the government is spraying deadly chemtrails in hopes of population reduction. Furthermore they have been known to use chemtrails as biological testing agents on the populace; all while claiming they are nothing more than mere vapor.

We’ll now we have 100% undeniable evidence that chemtrails exist. The video below is of Rosalind Peterson, the president of Agriculture Defence Coalition. In it she address the United Nations on chemtrails, geoengineering, and weather modification (HAARP).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5is16A8pfw

http://www.topinfopost.com/2014/09/17/the-united-nations-exposes-chemtrails-100-proof-we-are-being-poisoned

Pilots, Doctors & Scientists Tell Truth about Chemtrails [Excerpts]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnWaBsMYnY

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 3rd, 2016 at 9:46am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qHHHUUeqDk

Massive Chemtrailing, Up Close On A Few Chemtrail Planes - Kentucky

Published on Nov 2, 2016
This a look at the massive chemtrailing being done over Northern Kentucky. 11/2/16

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Nov 18th, 2016 at 1:31pm


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-zJH1_--rY

CIA Director Discusses GeoEngineering & Stratospheric Aerosol Injection aka Chemtrails

Published on Jul 6, 2016
MUST WATCH! UN, Whistleblower, Harvard, US Court Hearings, on Chemtrails:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsnCJ...

United Nations Discussing Geoengineering, Chemtrails, Weather Manipulation [Full]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTW9...

Cloud Seeding Weather Modification in Australia Caused flooding:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lunA4...

CIA Director John Brennan stated;
"Another example is the array of technologies—often referred to collectively as geoengineering—that potentially could help reverse the warming effects of global climate change. One that has gained my personal attention is stratospheric aerosol injection, or SAI, a method of seeding the stratosphere with particles that can help reflect the sun’s heat, in much the same way that volcanic eruptions do.

An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels. The process is also relatively inexpensive—the National Research Council estimates that a fully deployed SAI program would cost about $10 billion yearly.

As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community. On the technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects, such as ocean acidification, because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere.

On the geopolitical side, the technology’s potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions at the expense of others could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might seize on SAI’s benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions. And, as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI."
Category
News & Politics

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2017 at 4:32pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjzkEiO6AAc&feature=youtu.be

Chemtrails Analysis: New Discoveries 1/2

aluminum, barium, strontium and titanium in the chemtrails. But have you ever heard about piezoelectric crystals and of the so called "Smart Dust" - of Morgellons? Are these technologies of human origin? What are they and how they relate to each other? Learn more and lets start with the very basics, that is not commonly known at all.

NASA document - Future Strategic Issues:


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 26th, 2017 at 12:53pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YaIg4WA4WE

The Plan To Spray The Skies | Spraying Event Announced

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/24/us-scientists-launch-worlds-biggest-solar-geoengineering-study

US scientists launch world's biggest solar geoengineering study

Research programme will send aerosol injections into the earth’s upper atmosphere to study the risks and benefits of a future solar tech-fix for climate change



Scientists say the planet could be covered with a solar shield for as little as $10bn a year.
US scientists are set to send aerosol injections 20km up into the earth’s stratosphere in the world’s biggest solar geoengineering programme to date, to study the potential of a future tech-fix for global warming.

The $20m (£16m) Harvard University project will launch within weeks and aims to establish whether the technology can safely simulate the atmospheric cooling effects of a volcanic eruption, if a last ditch bid to halt climate change is one day needed.

Scientists hope to complete two small-scale dispersals of first water and then calcium carbonate particles by 2022. Future tests could involve seeding the sky with aluminium oxide – or even diamonds.


Is geoengineering a bad idea?
Read more
“This is not the first or the only university study,” said Gernot Wagner, the project’s co-founder, “but it is most certainly the largest, and the most comprehensive.”

Janos Pasztor, Ban Ki-moon’s assistant climate chief at the UN who now leads a geoengineering governance initiative, said that the Harvard scientists would only disperse minimal amounts of compounds in their tests, under strict university controls.

“The real issue here is something much more challenging,” he said “What does moving experimentation from the lab into the atmosphere mean for the overall path towards eventual deployment?”

Geoengineering advocates stress that any attempt at a solar tech fix is years away and should be viewed as a compliment to – not a substitute for – aggressive emissions reductions action.

But the Harvard team, in a promotional video for the project, suggest a redirection of one percent of current climate mitigation funds to geoengineering research, and argue that the planet could be covered with a solar shield for as little as $10bn a year.


Geoengineering is fast and cheap, but not the key to stopping climate change
Read more
Some senior UN climate scientists view such developments with alarm, fearing a cash drain from proven mitigation technologies such as wind and solar energy, to ones carrying the potential for unintended disasters.

Kevin Trenberth, a lead author for the UN’s intergovernmental panel on climate change, said that despair at sluggish climate action, and the rise of Donald Trump were feeding the current tech trend.

“But solar geoengineering is not the answer,” he said. “Cutting incoming solar radiation affects the weather and hydrological cycle. It promotes drought. It destabilizes things and could cause wars. The side effects are many and our models are just not good enough to predict the outcomes”

Natural alterations to the earth’s radiation balance can be short-lasting, but terrifying. A 1991 Mount Pinatubo eruption lowered global temperatures by 0.5C, while the Mount Tambora eruption in 1815 triggered Europe’s ‘year without a summer’, bringing crop failure, famine and disease.



A Met Office study in 2013 said that the dispersal of fine particles in the stratosphere could precipitate a calamitous drought across North Africa.

Frank Keutsch, the Harvard atmospheric sciences professor leading the experiment, said that the deployment of a solar geoengineering system was “a terrifying prospect” that he hoped would never have to be considered. “At the same time, we should never choose ignorance over knowledge in a situation like this,” he said.

“If you put heat into the stratosphere, it may change how much water gets transported from the troposphere to the stratosphere, and the question is how much are you [creating] a domino effect with all kinds of consequences? What we can do to quantify this is to start with lab studies and try to understand the relevant properties of these aerosols.”

Stratospheric controlled perturbation experiments (SCoPEX) are seen as “critical” to this process and the first is planned to spray water molecules into the stratosphere to create a 1km long and 100m wide icy plume, which can be studied by a manoeuvrable flight balloon.

If lab tests are positive, the experiment would then be replicated with a limestone compound which the researchers believe will neither absorb solar or terrestrial radiation, nor deplete the ozone layer.

Bill Gates and other foundations are substantially funding the project, and aerospace companies are thought to be taking a business interest in the technology’s potential.

The programmme’s launch will follow a major conference involving more than 100 scientists, which begins in Washington DC today.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 26th, 2017 at 12:54pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 2nd, 2016 at 10:13am:

jmjcare wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 8:28pm:
Chemtrails, which are also commonly referred to as aerosols, differ from aircraft vapour trails in that they often linger in the sky for hours and can be seen in grid-like patterns, in parallel lines (see above) or forming ‘X’s  in the sky.


No that is wrong.
They are all condensation trails.


Quote:
contrails last anywhere from less than a second, up to several hours. If depends on the atmospheric conditions at the altitude the plane is flying.
http://contrailscience.com/how-long-do-contrails-last/


If the air is dry (i.e. there is little water vapor in it), then the ice crystals will quickly sublimate into vapor, and the trail will vanish quickly.

However, if the air already has a lot of water vapor in it, then the ice will sublimate slower, and the trail will last longer.

If the air has so much water vapor in it already that it can’t hold any more (i.e. it’s “supersaturated”), then the ice crystals can’t sublimate, and so the contrail will stay around for a long time. The ice crystals might even attract water from the air, if there is enough, and the contrail will get thicker. Winds might make the contrail spread out to even cover the whole sky.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YaIg4WA4WE

The Plan To Spray The Skies | Spraying Event Announced

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/24/us-scientists-launch-worlds-biggest-solar-geoengineering-study

US scientists launch world's biggest solar geoengineering study

Research programme will send aerosol injections into the earth’s upper atmosphere to study the risks and benefits of a future solar tech-fix for climate change



Scientists say the planet could be covered with a solar shield for as little as $10bn a year.
US scientists are set to send aerosol injections 20km up into the earth’s stratosphere in the world’s biggest solar geoengineering programme to date, to study the potential of a future tech-fix for global warming.

The $20m (£16m) Harvard University project will launch within weeks and aims to establish whether the technology can safely simulate the atmospheric cooling effects of a volcanic eruption, if a last ditch bid to halt climate change is one day needed.

Scientists hope to complete two small-scale dispersals of first water and then calcium carbonate particles by 2022. Future tests could involve seeding the sky with aluminium oxide – or even diamonds.


Is geoengineering a bad idea?
Read more
“This is not the first or the only university study,” said Gernot Wagner, the project’s co-founder, “but it is most certainly the largest, and the most comprehensive.”

Janos Pasztor, Ban Ki-moon’s assistant climate chief at the UN who now leads a geoengineering governance initiative, said that the Harvard scientists would only disperse minimal amounts of compounds in their tests, under strict university controls.

“The real issue here is something much more challenging,” he said “What does moving experimentation from the lab into the atmosphere mean for the overall path towards eventual deployment?”

Geoengineering advocates stress that any attempt at a solar tech fix is years away and should be viewed as a compliment to – not a substitute for – aggressive emissions reductions action.

But the Harvard team, in a promotional video for the project, suggest a redirection of one percent of current climate mitigation funds to geoengineering research, and argue that the planet could be covered with a solar shield for as little as $10bn a year.


Geoengineering is fast and cheap, but not the key to stopping climate change
Read more
Some senior UN climate scientists view such developments with alarm, fearing a cash drain from proven mitigation technologies such as wind and solar energy, to ones carrying the potential for unintended disasters.

Kevin Trenberth, a lead author for the UN’s intergovernmental panel on climate change, said that despair at sluggish climate action, and the rise of Donald Trump were feeding the current tech trend.

“But solar geoengineering is not the answer,” he said. “Cutting incoming solar radiation affects the weather and hydrological cycle. It promotes drought. It destabilizes things and could cause wars. The side effects are many and our models are just not good enough to predict the outcomes”

Natural alterations to the earth’s radiation balance can be short-lasting, but terrifying. A 1991 Mount Pinatubo eruption lowered global temperatures by 0.5C, while the Mount Tambora eruption in 1815 triggered Europe’s ‘year without a summer’, bringing crop failure, famine and disease.



A Met Office study in 2013 said that the dispersal of fine particles in the stratosphere could precipitate a calamitous drought across North Africa.

Frank Keutsch, the Harvard atmospheric sciences professor leading the experiment, said that the deployment of a solar geoengineering system was “a terrifying prospect” that he hoped would never have to be considered. “At the same time, we should never choose ignorance over knowledge in a situation like this,” he said.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Jovial Monk on Mar 26th, 2017 at 1:26pm
This is the delusional crap that gets discussed by the deluded lunatics, like Booby, who believe the LIA horsepoop spread by a charlatan called Dubyne.

Chemtrails—the government is trying to hide the LIA cooling

Chemtrails—the government is trying to cool the world

H.A.A.R.P.—the government is trying to warm the world to hide the cooling.

The MSM—never mentions record cold (there is hardly any record cold these days and the local press always mentions weather events hot and cold) is hiding the cooling. Yeah, like our own Andrew Dolt, such an evangelist for AGW  :D :D :D

Is giving lunatics space to spout their delusions a good thing? Dunno.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:41am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZAqOhVjVk

Weather Modification: Scientists Finish 'Cloud-Seeding' Project In Idaho

Published on Apr 12, 2017
www.undergroundworldnews.com
Can cloud seeding — dispersing particles into the air with the aim of increasing precipitation — increase snowfall?

This winter, a team of researchers funded by the National Science Foundation (NSF) conducted a cloud-seeding project in southwestern Idaho to try to answer that question.

Cloud seeding is a process by which silver iodide is released into the clouds from a plane or by ground-based generators. The silver iodide particles provide surfaces on which ice nuclei can form, leading to snow.

“I was surprised at the characteristics of the clouds in Idaho,” says Jeff French, a University of Wyoming (UW) atmospheric scientist and principal investigator of the project, called SNOWIE (Seeded and Natural Orographic Wintertime Clouds – the Idaho Experiment). “The air was surprisingly clean, and the clouds had very low concentrations of liquid drops.”

Learn More:

https://www.icitizennews.net/atmospheric-scientists/

Atmospheric scientists wrap up winter cloud-seeding project in southwestern Idaho



Results to offer insights into snowfall and water resource availability in the U.S. West.

Can cloud seeding — dispersing particles into the air with the aim of increasing precipitation — increase snowfall?

This winter, a team of researchers funded by the National Science Foundation (NSF) conducted a cloud-seeding project in southwestern Idaho to try to answer that question.

Cloud seeding is a process by which silver iodide is released into the clouds from a plane or by ground-based generators. The silver iodide particles provide surfaces on which ice nuclei can form, leading to snow.

“I was surprised at the characteristics of the clouds in Idaho,” says Jeff French, a University of Wyoming (UW) atmospheric scientist and principal investigator of the project, called SNOWIE (Seeded and Natural Orographic Wintertime Clouds – the Idaho Experiment). “The air was surprisingly clean, and the clouds had very low concentrations of liquid drops.”

Those conditions affect which processes in clouds are important, how many droplets there are, how big they are, and ultimately how much snow falls, French says. This winter in Idaho, that was a lot.

UW researchers used the NSF-funded King Air research aircraft to conduct the cloud-seeding project from January 7 to March 16.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:44am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWu1Hn5vE9Y

GENOCIDE In the Unites States - Chemtrails, Monsanto, Vaccines and Fluoride, Where's The Outrage?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 13th, 2017 at 4:04am
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4404212/Harvard-scientists-test-atmosphere-protecting-aerosols.html



Aerosols to protect Earth from global warming will be sprayed into the stratosphere NEXT YEAR, but scientists warn the results could be 'catastrophic'




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 13th, 2017 at 2:59pm
Why does it come as no surprise that it's the same group of people who cause trouble in other threads on here believe wholeheartedly in chemtrails...

Stupid smacking idiots...  Wow...

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by cods on Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:07pm
are you referring to our very own Mr light?>. :( :(

the Dr Who of ozpol.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:13pm

cods wrote on Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:07pm:
are you referring to our very own Mr light?>. :( :(

the Dr Who of ozpol.


I really have no words for this... It's just too much...

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by cods on Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:22pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:13pm:

cods wrote on Apr 13th, 2017 at 3:07pm:
are you referring to our very own Mr light?>. :( :(

the Dr Who of ozpol.


I really have no words for this... It's just too much...



you have to avoid Mr light and his fantasy world if you wish to remain sane...hes committed to posting everything he reads..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 15th, 2017 at 8:31am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).
-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 15th, 2017 at 8:38am

FriYAY wrote on Mar 17th, 2014 at 8:43am:

Taipan wrote on Mar 15th, 2014 at 8:29am:

FriYAY wrote on Mar 14th, 2014 at 2:24pm:
http://contrailscience.com/how-to-debunk-chemtrails/


::)


Obviously you missed the part that says "UN Weather Weapons Treaty."

You see a sane person would ask the question "Why is there such a treaty?"

If there's a weather weapons treaty then obviously there are "weather weapons".

You leftards are always quick to evoke the un refugee convention which tells me you actually believe in the UN and what comes out of it so I figured you'd be interested in knowing they have a treaty on weather weapons and weather warfare. But I sometimes forget that im dealing with mentally ill people when dealing with the left. Oh well.

Oh and btw, chemtrails are a type of weather weapon just in case you're unable to put two and two together.



Leftard!!!! Well that's a first! :o

We should dump the UN convention on refugees. :)



Now that your little tanty rant has been dealt with..... :-*

Show me how many people have been killed by chemtrails being used as weapons. :-?

::)




with all the junk in the skies from chemtrailing ..

if you get caught outside at the wrong time and inhale this stuff

you could quite likely drop dead .. so heads up and eyes to the skies ,

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/thunderstorm-asthma-student-days-away-from-graduating/8048894

'Thunderstorm asthma': Four people now believed dead, could have been more, minister says

Updated 23 Nov 2016, 5:10pm



A fourth death has been attributed to Melbourne's "thunderstorm asthma" emergency on Monday night, and it was lucky there were not more according to the state's Health Minister.

More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".

Hospitals were swamped with emergency patients, while firefighters and police were called on to help paramedics respond to thousands of calls after the conditions caused breathing problems for Victorians.

Jill Hennessy, the Health Minister, said it was like "a bomb going off", with all ambulances, police, fire and non-emergency transport being used to deal with the crisis.

"Our health system was stretched to the limit," she told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"We know that we've got some people in intensive care units as well.

"At one point we had 140 code one cases, while dealing with other patients, all of them were cardiac arrests or severe respiratory conditions."

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 15th, 2017 at 9:16am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjzkEiO6AAc&feature=youtu.be

Chemtrails Analysis: New Discoveries 1/2

aluminum, barium, strontium and titanium in the chemtrails. But have you ever heard about piezoelectric crystals and of the so called "Smart Dust" - of Morgellons? Are these technologies of human origin? What are they and how they relate to each other? Learn more and lets start with the very basics, that is not commonly known at all.

NASA document - Future Strategic Issues:

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 15th, 2017 at 9:59am
So Chemtrails are to blame or the asthma issues from that storm...

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 15th, 2017 at 12:46pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 9:59am:
So Chemtrails are to blame or the asthma issues from that storm...

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


facts and truths you refuse to contemplate or digest ..

yes look the other way ,

meanwhile this has happened



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 15th, 2017 at 3:44pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 9:59am:
So Chemtrails are to blame or the asthma issues from that storm...

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


facts and truths you refuse to contemplate or digest ..

yes look the other way ,

meanwhile this has happened


Mate, all you have left is failed attempts at being clever and sarcastic.

Again, as usual, I've taken the time to read your posts and check on some (admittedly not all) of the links and videos you posted and to say I refuse to accept the facts or the truth is laughable in the extreme (hence my previous post) because you've not posted any facts or evidence to support your claims, not even once here.

The onus is on your to prove your claims and other than fact devoid conspiracy musings you've failed, spectacularly, to do so.

I suppose the fog around the Gold Coast and Brisbane this morning was more mind control chemicals?



Your problem is that you're the type of person who without the internet would be alone in your views, views that hold no correspondence with objective reality, however because you're able to type them into a search engine it will find every other person who thinks the same way as you and it gives you the false sense that you're actually onto something, that you have some deep insight into the world that nobody else has, but this is purely delusional.

You're so afraid of being caught out that you won't even answer simple requests to clarify your claims, just like you refuse to in the Fake News thread.  The difference there is you're not even being asked to prove your claims, just outline them so others can fact check it for you.  But you're too afraid to even do that.

I know it won't help you sleep at night, but you're not "besting" anyone here making bold and in most cases utterly bullshit claims then "memeing" them into submission or trying to spam out their replies or post what you think is clever images in return.

The only way you'll be able to shut those up who question you is to prove your claims.

I won't be waiting any longer for you to do so because you can't and you won't.

Yes, there will be those who want to believe the same as you do and will require no evidence to do so like yourself.  Enjoy their support because those of us grounded in the real world need more than just your word and when you refuse to give it, it just make you look like a conspiracy loving raving lunatic.

While I hold absolutely zero respect for you which is sadly more than you deserve but I will always leave the door open for you to earn some back by answering some of the many questions put to you or every now and then offering to prove a claim or two you've made.  Until then, you know where you can go.

Namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 2:57am

SadKangaroo wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 3:44pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 15th, 2017 at 9:59am:
So Chemtrails are to blame or the asthma issues from that storm...

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


facts and truths you refuse to contemplate or digest ..

yes look the other way ,

meanwhile this has happened


Mate, all you have left is failed attempts at being clever and sarcastic.

Again, as usual, I've taken the time to read your posts and check on some (admittedly not all) of the links and videos you posted and to say I refuse to accept the facts or the truth is laughable in the extreme (hence my previous post) because you've not posted any facts or evidence to support your claims, not even once here.

The onus is on your to prove your claims and other than fact devoid conspiracy musings you've failed, spectacularly, to do so.

I suppose the fog around the Gold Coast and Brisbane this morning was more mind control chemicals?



Your problem is that you're the type of person who without the internet would be alone in your views, views that hold no correspondence with objective reality, however because you're able to type them into a search engine it will find every other person who thinks the same way as you and it gives you the false sense that you're actually onto something, that you have some deep insight into the world that nobody else has, but this is purely delusional.

You're so afraid of being caught out that you won't even answer simple requests to clarify your claims, just like you refuse to in the Fake News thread.  The difference there is you're not even being asked to prove your claims, just outline them so others can fact check it for you.  But you're too afraid to even do that.

I know it won't help you sleep at night, but you're not "besting" anyone here making bold and in most cases utterly bullshit claims then "memeing" them into submission or trying to spam out their replies or post what you think is clever images in return.

The only way you'll be able to shut those up who question you is to prove your claims.

I won't be waiting any longer for you to do so because you can't and you won't.

Yes, there will be those who want to believe the same as you do and will require no evidence to do so like yourself.  Enjoy their support because those of us grounded in the real world need more than just your word and when you refuse to give it, it just make you look like a conspiracy loving raving lunatic.

While I hold absolutely zero respect for you which is sadly more than you deserve but I will always leave the door open for you to earn some back by answering some of the many questions put to you or every now and then offering to prove a claim or two you've made.  Until then, you know where you can go.

Namaste






Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 2:59am
real or fake news ..?



http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/thunderstorm-asthma-student-days-away-from-graduating/8048894

'Thunderstorm asthma': Four people now believed dead, could have been more, minister says

Updated 23 Nov 2016, 5:10pm



A fourth death has been attributed to Melbourne's "thunderstorm asthma" emergency on Monday night, and it was lucky there were not more according to the state's Health Minister.

More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".

Hospitals were swamped with emergency patients, while firefighters and police were called on to help paramedics respond to thousands of calls after the conditions caused breathing problems for Victorians.

Jill Hennessy, the Health Minister, said it was like "a bomb going off", with all ambulances, police, fire and non-emergency transport being used to deal with the crisis.

"Our health system was stretched to the limit," she told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"We know that we've got some people in intensive care units as well.

"At one point we had 140 code one cases, while dealing with other patients, all of them were cardiac arrests or severe respiratory conditions."


and so ,

if you believe this

Quote:
More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".


you will swallow any old fake news propaganda hook line and sinker ..

extreme pollen count ????????

surely you are not that gullible ?

either way be at peace

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 6:43am
If you believe otherwise prove it or bugger off.

But I suspect you'll do neither and just post more memes or spam.

Will you just ignore this post and retort with an image you think is clever too?

I know you're just trolling and I shouldn't be feeding you, but you really are pathetic. I hope you have something else of meaning in your life other than the lulz you so desperately seem to crave here.

I eagerly await your total ignoring of this post as you do all others you cannot deal with.

Namaste.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 8:24am

SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 6:43am:
If you believe otherwise prove it or bugger off.

But I suspect you'll do neither and just post more memes or spam.

Will you just ignore this post and retort with an image you think is clever too?

I know you're just trolling and I shouldn't be feeding you, but you really are pathetic. I hope you have something else of meaning in your life other than the lulz you so desperately seem to crave here.

I eagerly await your total ignoring of this post as you do all others you cannot deal with.

Namaste.


so you think " pollen " is the cause ..

yes well done ingesting your fake news

you use some abstract narrative to avoid the current situation

you refuse to address ... run away then yes good

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/thunderstorm-asthma-student-days-away-from-graduating/8048894

'Thunderstorm asthma': Four people now believed dead, could have been more, minister says

Updated 23 Nov 2016, 5:10pm



A fourth death has been attributed to Melbourne's "thunderstorm asthma" emergency on Monday night, and it was lucky there were not more according to the state's Health Minister.

More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".

Hospitals were swamped with emergency patients, while firefighters and police were called on to help paramedics respond to thousands of calls after the conditions caused breathing problems for Victorians.

Jill Hennessy, the Health Minister, said it was like "a bomb going off", with all ambulances, police, fire and non-emergency transport being used to deal with the crisis.

"Our health system was stretched to the limit," she told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"We know that we've got some people in intensive care units as well.

"At one point we had 140 code one cases, while dealing with other patients, all of them were cardiac arrests or severe respiratory conditions."




Quote:
More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".


fake news shut down by correlating facts which explain why people die

the chemtrails are very dangerous when dumped in a focused event like storms as we can see ..

note : evidence provided and ignored by sad sack ..

please show your proof that " pollen " can even do such a thing that the fake news story suggests .

or are you too weak and inarticulate to back up your fake news story ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).
-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 9:14am

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 8:24am:
so you think " pollen " is the cause ..


If you think otherwise post proof.

Questioning the official line does not immediately make your chosen crackpot conspiracy theory correct, you need proof.

proof
/pruːf/
noun
1. evidence or argument establishing a fact or the truth of a statement.


Quote:
you refuse to address ... run away then yes good


I'm not running away from anything.  If you can find some sort of evidence to link your claims of chemtrail side effect were the cause of those fatalities and breathing issues during the "pollen storm" rather than just questioning it therefore you must be right, then we'll talk.

If you cannot provide a shred of evidence then there is nothing to run from.  Just empty claims by a proven conspiracy nut who on so many other occasion won't even have the decency to clarify their claims, let alone justify them with facts or evidence.

But go ahead, repost the same thing again, with the same video you're holding up as proof which is so laughably inaccurate and lite on anything even accidentally resembling proof it doesn't even warrant a fully researched reply.  Which even if I took the time, you'd only ignore it anyway and burry it with reposts or memes anyway.

Proof or bugger off.  It's as simple as that.  You have no high horse here.  The burden of proof is on you and thus far you have spectacularly failed.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 9:26am
the evidence is posted and shown in the first 7 minutes here and you dismiss it ..

the proof is also shown and you dismiss that too

you prefer to wind up your old blowbag of sad sack soured grapes from the sting of past defeats ..


Quote:
But go ahead, repost the same thing again, with the same video you're holding up as proof which is so laughably inaccurate and lite on anything even accidentally resembling proof it doesn't even warrant a fully researched reply. 


please point to any concerns and evidence raised in the first 7 minutes and prove this evidence as disinformation .



now focus here or simply run along with your trolling and spam , and admit defeat again .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).
-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.

also ,

please show where pollen has killed so many people ..



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 11:40am

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 9:26am:
the evidence is posted and shown in the first 7 minutes here and you dismiss it ..

Ok, if you honestly believe that then we have vastly different ideas of what constitutes evidence.

Firstly this "truth seeker" is effectively scientifically illiterate.  She has done her best to google things but the conclusions she's reached are wildly misinformed and even if they weren't, she's only talking about the "proof" she's found that show that airliners are in fact laying chemtrails everywhere.  It has nothing to do with Pollen Storms.

What she has done is find "evidence" such as sun damage and oxidation of road signs etc to show that Barium is in the air thanks to chemtrails and it's highly "reactable" (or more correctly, 'reactive') nature is the cause.  It doesn't matter that there is zero evidence to reach that conclusion. 

There were no tests done to check for the presence of Barium in those signs or the environment around them and nothing but her desire for a link to be there and your willingness to believe it to link the two.

Zero Proof.

Then as you have said the video claims, again by a scientifically and in this case medically illiterate person that Barium creates the symptoms we saw in Melbourne when it ignores the delay in exposure, the levels required and it's persistence in the body for up to 4 weeks later and is easily discovered with conventional testing.  Yet still no evidence.


Quote:
the proof is also shown and you dismiss that too

No, there isn't.  I'm not just dismissing it, I've just explained that it is not proof.


Quote:
you prefer to wind up your old blowbag of sad sack soured grapes from the sting of past defeats ..

please point to any concerns and evidence raised in the first 7 minutes and prove this evidence as disinformation .

You have found "evidence" from someone who open admitted to first believing that chemtrails are a thing and then worked backwards from there to find proof.  To someone with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Now she says that because of the barium in the air, that explains the green glow around fireballs as they enter the atmosphere because the Government must have recently 'chemtrailed'.  Case closed?  Proof of Barium chemtrails? 

Again, no proof offered whatsoever.

You'd have to first ignore the accepted explanation for the green glow being that they're meteors whose shockwaves lead to electrically charged oxygen similar to that seen in auroras, aka glowing green.  It's not burning barium. Then of course there is again the glaring lack of any testing or evidence of barium levels.

Then she goes on to propose that all of this is happening in order to create the conditions to harvest antiprotons from the atmosphere in combination with radio wave boxes, cosmic rays and the chemtrailed barium, but there is a layered conspiracy theory even there, that these antiprotons can be used to fight cancer so that will be told to the public but the true reason for their harvesting is quantum computers.

This reflective layer of barium in the atmosphere, seeded by chemtrails of course, is used to intercept phone calls and wifi signals and even block satellite imagery but most importantly they're creating these ion traps to collect and harvest these antiprotons for quantum computing.

/facepalm

All these claims, yes, claims not proof, may seem perfectly normal if you WANT to believe that. But the most obvious and glaring omission from all of this is the complete and total lack of any testing, experiments or investigations other than the failed logic of a scientifically illiterate conspiracy nut armed with Google.

Nothing has been proven what so ever in this video, not a single thing.

At best, AT BEST, if you ignore all of the actually researched and peer reviewed conclusions that explains much of what she questions, if you ignore all of that and you desperately want chemtrails to be real and part of some global conspiracy then some, SOME of what she is proposing would warrant further investigation.

BUT upon doing said investigation you would discover all the answers to those questions and they have nothing to do with chemtrails.

I've watched the whole video, not just the first 7 minutes and I'm left with many things.

First, if you believe this proves anything you really have no understand what so ever about what constitutes proof, none.  Ignoring all the explanations you don't like that don't fit with your predetermined notions and then using warped logic to draw wildly inaccurate conclusions from the already untrustworthy data that does fit in with your predetermined notions, this is not proof.

Secondly, I honestly believe that she thinks she's onto something, she has discovered through Google a hidden truth. In reality she is a weak minded scientifically illiterate fool spreading misinformation in order to reinforce a conspiracy theory she is far too invested in to let go now.

Thirdly, this has nothing to do with Pollen Storms at all. You've presented this as proof of those who suffered during the pollen storms were in fact victims of chemtrailing. Not Proof.

Even if you misinterpreted the health impacts of exposure to barium, you would have to dismiss all the evidence and explanations as to what actually occurred and has done so in other places around the world, you have not provided any proof at all of the use of barium.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 11:44am

Quote:
please show where pollen has killed so many people ..

1 December 2016: Kuwait

'Thunderstorm asthma' 5 people die in Kuwait following storm

"Hospitals received 844 emergency cases in two days, five of them died, three in Mumbarak Hospital and two in the Amiri Hospital," Khaled Al-Sahlawi, health ministry undersecretary, said in the report. "Twenty-six cases were admitted to intensive care units and 45 to rooms. The rest received treatments."

The deaths in Kuwait came only about a week after a similar incident happened in Melbourne, Australia. According to CNN, a sudden drop in temperature accompanied by severe thunderstorms had triggered mass pollen allergy asthma attacks.

When rain falls, pollen grains absorb moisture and erupt, spreading small allergenic particles that could irritate the lungs when inhaled. These particles could irritate and inflame bronchial tubes, which are filled with mucus and cause difficulty of breathing.

After the incident, speculations have risen that the weather phenomenon is caused by a "biological warfare" agent being tested on humans, The Daily Sheeple reports. In Kuwait, rumors on social media about a pandemic virus outbreak of H1N1 have circulated. But medical experts dismissed these rumors and blame bad weather conditions for the respiratory problems in patients, Kuwait Times reports.


There are other historical examples of other significant events if you care to look them up,
  • 6 July 1983–7 July 1983: Birmingham, England
  • 8 November 1987: Melbourne, Australia
  • 29 November 1989–30 November 1989: Melbourne, Australia
  • 24 July 1994–25 July 1994: London, England
  • 30 October 1997: Wagga Wagga, Australia
  • 4 June 2004: Naples, Italy
  • 25 November 2010: Melbourne, Australia
  • 2 November 2013: Ahvaz, Iran

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 11:47am

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 8:24am:
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).


* After 2 to 4 weeks depending on the health of the person, not up to a day after the storm has passed.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 11:50am

SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:44am:

Quote:
please show where pollen has killed so many people ..

1 December 2016: Kuwait

'Thunderstorm asthma' 5 people die in Kuwait following storm

"Hospitals received 844 emergency cases in two days, five of them died, three in Mumbarak Hospital and two in the Amiri Hospital," Khaled Al-Sahlawi, health ministry undersecretary, said in the report. "Twenty-six cases were admitted to intensive care units and 45 to rooms. The rest received treatments."

The deaths in Kuwait came only about a week after a similar incident happened in Melbourne, Australia. According to CNN , a sudden drop in temperature accompanied by severe thunderstorms had triggered mass pollen allergy asthma attacks.

When rain falls, pollen grains absorb moisture and erupt, spreading small allergenic particles that could irritate the lungs when inhaled. These particles could irritate and inflame bronchial tubes, which are filled with mucus and cause difficulty of breathing.

After the incident, speculations have risen that the weather phenomenon is caused by a "biological warfare" agent being tested on humans, The Daily Sheeple reports. In Kuwait, rumors on social media about a pandemic virus outbreak of H1N1 have circulated. But medical experts dismissed these rumors and blame bad weather conditions for the respiratory problems in patients, Kuwait Times reports.


There are other historical examples of other significant events if you care to look them up,
  • 6 July 1983–7 July 1983: Birmingham, England
  • 8 November 1987: Melbourne, Australia
  • 29 November 1989–30 November 1989: Melbourne, Australia
  • 24 July 1994–25 July 1994: London, England
  • 30 October 1997: Wagga Wagga, Australia
  • 4 June 2004: Naples, Italy
  • 25 November 2010: Melbourne, Australia
  • 2 November 2013: Ahvaz, Iran


FAKE NEWS  ~!

all these instances can be attributed to chemtrails instead of fictitious " pollen theories "

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 11:51am
Light, your misstep is you so desperately want to believe, you want to think that you are somehow special, that you have some special insight that others don't have, you're important.  You want it so bad you don't bother to fact check anything that that you feel makes you more enlightened than the rest of us.

I hope I've helped you understand that it only does the opposite.  It makes you look like a raving lunatic.

If you learn anything this from this I hope it is that while in the realm of debate it of course is important to fact check your opponents and use their arguments against them, it is more important to fact check your own point of view. 

If you don't, which clearly you do not, you may find yourself on the wrong side of the truth.  As you are someone who apparently strives for the truth, I would have thought this would be important to you.

But your actions don't indicate that at all.

Truth and facts are not subjective as you appear to treat them.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 11:53am

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:50am:
FAKE NEWS  ~!

all these instances can be attributed to chemtrails instead of fictitious " pollen theories "


By all means the floor is yours to prove that.  But "attributing" something to something else is not proof, you do realise that right?

Would you like to explain why it is fake?  What conflicting evidence do you have that helped you reach that conclusion?

Or are we dealing with the typical "that doesn't fit with my predetermined notions, it must be FAKE NEWS!!!"?

There was a time when "Fake News" and "Political Correctness" were referred to as Propaganda and Decency.

If you can't backup your claims which you haven't about the chemtrails nor the latest claim of Fake News, you're just spreading bullshit and propaganda.

I'd invite you to prove your claims but that hasn't gone so well for you thus far.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 11:57am
sounds like your interested ..

maybe you need to get educated ?

https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/

Aluminum, Barium, and Chemtrails Explained – JUST THE FACTS



I have been researching the chemtrail phenomenon for over three years now and I am constantly asked the same questions, so to alleviate much personal grief and provide a singular source of accurate information I have created this FAQ for you to share, challenge, debate, and hopefully contribute to.  Let’s dive in:

#1 There’s Barium and Aluminum in the Chemtrails

True.

Atmospheric Aluminum A2O3

The predominate source of anthropogenic aluminum in rain and soil samples are raining down from space, blame the rockets:

Each time a space shuttle is launched, the solid rocket boosters release 240 tons of HCl gas, 26 tons of chlorine gas, 7 tons of nitrogen dioxide gas, and 304 tons of aluminum oxide into the atmosphere.  The resulting hydrochloric acid dissolves eight inches of concrete on the launch pad, raises the concentration of hydrochloric acid in nearby lakes to 3 M, produces massive fish kills in the ocean, and destroys the paint on cars.  Leading chemists believe that the HCl is a major contributor to the holes in the ozone layer.
source, see also: Space Shuttle Exhausted Aluminum Oxide’ A Measured Particle Size Distribution W. R. COFER III AND G. C. PURGOLD Atmospheric Sciences Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia E. L. WINSTEAD ST Systems Corporation, Hampton, Virginia R. A. EDAHL Materials Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia  1991

That’s right space fans, rockets!  304 tons per launch, 608,000 pounds of aluminum oxide.  But wait, there’s more!  Welcome to the future of aluminum: ALICE!

Rocket propellant has barely changed in the more than 50 years since the launch of the first artificial satellite Sputnik. But a new mixture of nano-aluminum powder and frozen water could make rocket launches more environmentally friendly, and even allow spacecraft to refuel at distant locations such as the moon or Mars.

The aluminum-ice propellant known as ALICE gets its kick from a chemical reaction between water and aluminum. Space.com 2009

The interactions between aluminum exhaust and water have been studied since 1962’s Project Highwater when Atlas rockets dumped 23,000 gallons of water into the ionosphere to make it glow (airglow).

Aluminum interacts with the ionosphere to produce airglow, as does water releases.  It does not surprise me that ALICE combines the two, here’s why:


Also, the term “green propellant” is often confusing, as many assume a green propellant has no environmental impact. Such a propellant is generally beyond the realm of physical possibility. All propellants affect the environment in some way. For instance, all launch vehicles produce exhaust. The components of this exhaust can include soot, carbon dioxide, alumina, inorganic chlorine, water vapor, sulfates, and nitrogen oxides. All of these have an environmental impact, and may contribute to climate change, ozone destruction, or upper atmospheric contrails, depending on the atmospheric layer in which they are deposited; however, the severity and duration of the impact can vary greatly. Given this fact, a green propellant is more correctly viewed as one that seeks to minimize or eliminate a critical environmental impact in one or more of the four main areas. A green propellant is likely to have its own environmental impacts, which may be equal to the current technology in certain areas. For example, many green propellants seek to eliminate hydrazine because of its biologic impact, but they still present atmospheric or space-based effects. Aerospace.org 2011

Nano-particle Aluminum Steam

They are now using nano-particle aluminum to boil frozen water, putting it in ALICE rockets, and we have to consider the possibilities of this technology as it pertains to chemtrails:

https://youtu.be/ved0K5CtmsU

Anthropogenic aluminum comes from rockets, very little comes from chemtrails if any, in my humble opinion.

Although rockets produce tons more aluminum than planes do, both are tiny compared to good ole dirt blowing up from the ground:

A LARGE SILICON-ALUMINUM AEROSOL PLUME IN CENTRAL ILLINOIS: NORTH AFRICAN DESERT DUST? 1995

During a summer atmospheric chemistry field project in central Illinois in 1979, unusually high concentration of Si, AI, and other earth’s crust elements were observed simultaneously in two series of 2-h aerosol samples collected at sites separated by about 20 km. The Si-A1 “event” persisted for about 32 h, and was accompanied by winds shifting from east through north as a weak low pressure area moved eastward across southeJrn Illinois, and a nearly stationary front moved back and forth across the study area. Comparison of aerosol Si/AI and Ca/A1 ratios during the event with those in possible sources showed that local soils, coal flyash, and A1 smelter emissions were unlikely sources of the observed plume, and focused the investigation on distant dust sources. Climatology favors north Africa over the western United States as a source of desert dust in summer.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 11:58am
Forty-eight hour back-trajectories from Illinois show flow from the Gulf of Mexico. Temperature and humidity soundings at Key West, Florida, three days before the onset of the dust plume in Illinois, showed a typical “Sahara air” profile, and simultaneous mineral dust measurements at Miami indicated a strong influx of North African dust at the same time. The evidence indicates that North African dust is the most likely source of the observed high concentrations of Si and AI in central Illinois in July 1979, and illustrates that long range transport can influence air quality at great distances from source a;~eas. Copyright © 1996 Elsevier Science Ltd

http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

When jet aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel to kerosene (diesel) fuel the aluminum content of the fuels skyrocketed.  See this chart Trace Element and Polycyclic Aromatic  Hydrocarbon Analyses of Jet Engine Fuels: Jet A, JP5, and JP8:



Aluminum Jet Fuel Additives

Spray Visualization of Alternative Aviation Turbine Fuel embedded with Metallic Nanoparticles
Energetic Nanoparticles as Fuel Additives for Enhanced Performance in Propulsion Systems
Reduction of emissions and fuel consumption in a compression ignition engine using nanoparticles
Nanoparticles increase biofuel performance
Why add nanoparticles? The idea, says lead author R. B. Anand, an associate professor of mechanical engineering at the National Institute of Technology in Tiruchirappalli, India, is that because of their high surface-to-volume ratio, the nanoparticles—which, in the study, had an average diameter of 51 billionths of a meter—have more reactive surfaces, allowing them to act as more efficient chemical catalysts, thus increasing fuel combustion. The presence of the particles also increases fuel–air mixing in the fuel, which leads to more complete burning.

In the study, Anand and co-author J. Sadhik Basha first used a mechanical agitator to create an emulsion consisting of jatropha biodiesel (a fuel derived from the crushed seeds of the jatropha plant), water, and a surfactant, then blended in different proportions of alumina nanoparticles. In addition to outperforming regular biofuel, the nanoparticle-spiked fuels produced significantly lower quantities of nitrogen oxide and carbon monoxide gases, and created less smoke.

The researchers are now testing other types of nanoparticles, including hollow carbon nanotubes, and investigating the effects of nano-additives to engine lubrication and cooling systems. One obstacle to the application of this kind of nanotechnology is the high cost of nanoparticle production, says Anand—who also cautions that nanoparticles “should be used judiciously,” because they tend to “entrain into human bodies.“
Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2011-04-nanoparticles-biofuel.html



Atmospheric Sources of Barium

From the IPCC’s first assessment on Climate Change’s report we see confirmation that indeed barium and aluminum are in the exhaust plumes of jets.

3.2.3.2 Metal Particles

Aircraft jet engines also directly emit metal particles. Their sources include engine erosion and the combustion of fuel containing trace metal impurities or metal particles that enter the exhaust with the fuel (Chapter 7). Metal particles-comprising elements such as Al, Ti, Cr, Fe, Ni, and Ba-are estimated to be present at the parts per billion by volume (ppbv) level at nozzle exit planes (CIAP, 1975; Fordyce and Sheibley, 1975). The corresponding concentrations of 107 to 108 particles/kg fuel (assuming 1-mm radius; see below) are much smaller than for soot. Although metals have been found as residuals in cirrus and contrail ice particles (Chen et al., 1998; Petzold et al., 1998; Twohy and Gandrud, 1998), their number and associated mass are considered too small to affect the formation or properties of more abundant volatile and soot plume aerosol particles.

Aluminum, Titanium, Chromium, Iron, Nickel, and Barium are estimated to be in the parts per billion, meaning very small (trace) amounts.  Barium in jets comes from STADIS 450, an additive that has been in use since 1962 which contains trade secret chemicals and SARA 313 toxins.

Stadis 450 Barium Salt [MSDS trade secret] [MSDS full]

TRIMETHYLBENZENE (SARA 313)
10 – 30% TRADE SECRET POLYMER CONTAINING SULPHUR
5 – 10% TRADE SECRET POLYMER CONTAINING NITROGEN
NAPHTHALENE (SARA 313)

“R-11 Highly flammable. R-36 Irritating to eyes. R-67 Vapours may cause drowsiness and dizziness. R-51/53 Toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment. R-65 Harmful: may cause lung damage if swallowed. R-66 Repeated exposure may cause skin dryness or cracking. R-22 Harmful if swallowed. R-40 Limited evidence of a carcinogenic effect. R-50/53 Very toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment. Not classified. R-36/38 Irritating to eyes and skin. R-38 Irritating to skin. R-48/20 Harmful: danger of serious damage to health by prolonged exposure through inhalation. R-63 Possible risk of harm to the unborn child.”








Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 12:00pm
DuPont created STADIS-450 in 1962 and ever since this barium salt fuel additive has been in every single jet fuel tank worldwide.  The purpose of STADIS-450 is to reduce static discharge from refueling to keep fuel from exploding.  Nonetheless, barium is a serious health concern for everyone on the planet.

Dinonylnaphthylsulfonic acid (DINNSA, Stadis 450)
Effects of barium fuel additive and fuel sulfur level on diesel particulate emissions
Effects of Barium-Based Additive on Diesel Exhaust Particulate
May 1963, Plasma Seeding and Magnetospheric Modification Begins




create an artificial ion cloud in interplanetary space for studying the state of the interplanetary medium .. sounding rocket experiments  Foppl et al., 1965, http://www.igpp.ucla.edu/public/mkivelso/Publications/019-RS008i011p01035.pdf

February 14, 1964 to December 3, 1964, Artificial Strontium and Barium Clouds in the Upper Atmosphere



June 1972, Project SECEDE Observations of the Developement of Striations in Large Barium Ion Clouds



Striations develop within large (12-352 kg releases) barium ion clouds in a two-stage process. First the clouds split into sheets commencing at the trailing edge of the cloud.  Then distortions-or pinching effects within the individual sheets cause the formation of field-aligned ray-like structures.
In the clouds observed, the individual sheets were 200 m to 1000 m in thickness and were spaced 700 m to 2000 m apart. Quasi-sinu-soidal waviness or spatially periodic thickenings exhibited a wavelength typically 700 m to 1000 m.When rod-like structures appeared, these were typically-200 m to 400 m in diameter and were spaced along the pre-existing sheet at 700 m to 1000 m on centers. http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=AD0757916
November 1972, ARPA Project SECEDE II barium cloud releases



High resolution optical measurements were made of a series of high altitude barium releases at Eglin AFB during January 1971. Data was obtained on the individual cloud motions (ion and neutral), morphology, and fine structure striation development viewed up the geomagnetic field lines. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/756938.pdf

January 1974, High-explosive shaped Barium charges pound ionosphere

Hollow conical liners of barium metal, detonated above 500-km altitude, jets of barium plasma with a range of initial velocity of 8 to 20 km/sec have been created. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/JA079i001p00159/abstract

And finally, just to prove my point:

July 1990 to September 1993, CRRES Ionospheric Modification and the Arecibo Heater









Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 12:02pm
Yet this has nothing to do with Pollen Storms and I've read that all of this has been debunked before and attributed to other things.  Some is also Fake News.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 12:02pm
Combined Release and Radiation Effects Satellite (CRRES)

CRRES was a joint program of NASA and the Department of Defense launched in July of 1990. The spacecraft was placed in a highly elliptical orbit and conducted uniqely active experiments involving the release of chemicals at various locations where the complex interactions between solar radiation and the fields and particles in Earth’s magnetosphere could be observed. Roger R. Anderson of The University of Iowa was the PI of the Plasma Wave Experiment on CRRES which was part of the Air Force Geophysics Laboratory’s SPACERAD project. The mission ended in October of 1991.

NASA EXPERIMENTS

NASA’s experiments are divided into four areas:

Magnetospheric Ion Cloud Injections:
This group of experiments will artificially seed the magnetosphere with plasma and, working with DOD particle and electromagnetic wave investigators, use ground-based optical and radar diagnostics to observe large-scale changes in the cloud. In-situ CRRES measurements will examine smaller, local phenomena. The CRRES instruments also will determine the state of the magnetosphere, providing valuable data to allow the determination of optimal conditions for releases. (Experiments G-1 through G-7, G-10.)
Ionospheric Modifications:
This group of experiments introduces disturbances into the ionosphere to study the friction forces arising from the interaction of high-speed injected plasmas and the ionosphere. Scientists also will inject neutral atoms at orbital velocities to understand why unusually efficient ionization occurs when a fast beam of neutral gas passes through a magnetized plasma. Scientists will compare the observed behavior of the injected plasmas with computer models. (Experiments G-8, G-9, G-13, G-14.)
Electric Fields and Ion Transport:
This group of experiments will study the low-latitude electric fields and the movement of ions along magnetic field lines into the ionosphere in response to these electric fields. (Experiments G-11, G-12.)
Ionospheric Irregularity Simulators:
These experiments will produce large-scale releases of chemicals to study irregularities in the ionosphere and the effects of the ionosphere on the propagation of high-frequency-waves. (Experiments AA-1 through AA-7.)
http://www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu/plasma-wave/crres/index.html
http://www-pw.physics.uiowa.edu/plasma-wave/crres/press-kit/detailed-experiments.html
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA293219



read on

https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 12:04pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
Yet this has nothing to do with Pollen Storms and I've read that all of this has been debunked before and attributed to other things.  Some is also Fake News.


you are fake news with your cnn propaganda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWY14eyMFg

you have been quite rightly exposed

and so you have

namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 12:05pm
All of those posts, yet no actual scientific proof...  No verifiable and duplicatable experimenting or peer review.

One wonders if you are trying to burry my analysis AGAIN.


it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
you have been quite rightly exposed

and so you have

namaste


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

You really do live in a fantasy land.  You've posted a lot, but there is no truth and certainly no proof to it...

Again you're trying to burry my posts that you cannot deal with yet accuse me of doing the same thing.

Troll on dickhead, troll on.

I hope you're getting those lulz you need to fill that emptiness inside.

This is why people don't bother taking you seriously because you tantrum spam when confronted with people actually fact checking you.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 12:07pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
All of those posts, yet no actual scientific proof...  No verifiable and duplicatable experimenting or peer review.

One wonders if you are trying to burry my analysis AGAIN.


the facts are in

you refuse to look at evidence and prefer fake CNN propaganda

no amount of evidence will sway you from your cnn programming and so be it

yet fortunately

this does not effect unto the truths and facts presented and only goes to crush your long winded blow bagging sad sacked interpretation of reality

which is far from the aforementioned and so be it

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 12:13pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
All of those posts, yet no actual scientific proof...  No verifiable and duplicatable experimenting or peer review.

One wonders if you are trying to burry my analysis AGAIN.


it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
you have been quite rightly exposed

and so you have

namaste


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

You really do live in a fantasy land.  You've posted a lot, but there is no truth and certainly no proof to it...

Again you're trying to burry my posts that you cannot deal with yet accuse me of doing the same thing.

Troll on dickhead, troll on.

I hope you're getting those lulz you need to fill that emptiness inside.

This is why people don't bother taking you seriously because you tantrum spam when confronted with people actually fact checking you.


you have checked nothing and prefer the CNN narrative

and so be it

namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 12:21pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:07pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
All of those posts, yet no actual scientific proof...  No verifiable and duplicatable experimenting or peer review.

One wonders if you are trying to burry my analysis AGAIN.


the facts are in


Where?


Quote:
you refuse to look at evidence and prefer fake CNN propaganda


But I did, and I even posted about your claimed evidence here,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/419#419

You may have missed it with you 8 spam posts immediately following it in less than 10 minutes.


Quote:
no amount of evidence will sway you from your cnn programming and so be it


I am certainly open to evidence when ever it is available.  TO that, With the clip in question, I've asked you before, what parts of the video do you claim irrefutably show that it is fake news, you know, the current evidence you are referring to?

Are they staging the location, is it a blue screen or is it the contents of their report? Or all?

It is your claim and while it would be your responsibility to prove them I've not even asking you to do that.

I am simply asking you to clarify your claims so I can digest the evidence in context.  The onus is well and truly on your in this regard to do so as they are YOUR CLAIMS!

But how many weeks has it been, how many times have we had to go around in circles?  Why are you so scared to put in black and white what part of the video shows it to be fake news?

The floor is yours my friend.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 12:23pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:13pm:
you have checked nothing


Did you miss this?


Quote:
Ok, if you honestly believe that then we have vastly different ideas of what constitutes evidence.

Firstly this "truth seeker" is effectively scientifically illiterate.  She has done her best to google things but the conclusions she's reached are wildly misinformed and even if they weren't, she's only talking about the "proof" she's found that show that airliners are in fact laying chemtrails everywhere.  It has nothing to do with Pollen Storms.

What she has done is find "evidence" such as sun damage and oxidation of road signs etc to show that Barium is in the air thanks to chemtrails and it's highly "reactable" (or more correctly, 'reactive') nature is the cause.  It doesn't matter that there is zero evidence to reach that conclusion. 

There were no tests done to check for the presence of Barium in those signs or the environment around them and nothing but her desire for a link to be there and your willingness to believe it to link the two.

Zero Proof.

Then as you have said the video claims, again by a scientifically and in this case medically illiterate person that Barium creates the symptoms we saw in Melbourne when it ignores the delay in exposure, the levels required and it's persistence in the body for up to 4 weeks later and is easily discovered with conventional testing.  Yet still no evidence.

[quote]the proof is also shown and you dismiss that too

No, there isn't.  I'm not just dismissing it, I've just explained that it is not proof.


Quote:
you prefer to wind up your old blowbag of sad sack soured grapes from the sting of past defeats ..

please point to any concerns and evidence raised in the first 7 minutes and prove this evidence as disinformation .

You have found "evidence" from someone who open admitted to first believing that chemtrails are a thing and then worked backwards from there to find proof.  To someone with a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

Now she says that because of the barium in the air, that explains the green glow around fireballs as they enter the atmosphere because the Government must have recently 'chemtrailed'.  Case closed?  Proof of Barium chemtrails? 

Again, no proof offered whatsoever.

You'd have to first ignore the accepted explanation for the green glow being that they're meteors whose shockwaves lead to electrically charged oxygen similar to that seen in auroras, aka glowing green.  It's not burning barium. Then of course there is again the glaring lack of any testing or evidence of barium levels.

Then she goes on to propose that all of this is happening in order to create the conditions to harvest antiprotons from the atmosphere in combination with radio wave boxes, cosmic rays and the chemtrailed barium, but there is a layered conspiracy theory even there, that these antiprotons can be used to fight cancer so that will be told to the public but the true reason for their harvesting is quantum computers.

This reflective layer of barium in the atmosphere, seeded by chemtrails of course, is used to intercept phone calls and wifi signals and even block satellite imagery but most importantly they're creating these ion traps to collect and harvest these antiprotons for quantum computing.

/facepalm

All these claims, yes, claims not proof, may seem perfectly normal if you WANT to believe that. But the most obvious and glaring omission from all of this is the complete and total lack of any testing, experiments or investigations other than the failed logic of a scientifically illiterate conspiracy nut armed with Google.

Nothing has been proven what so ever in this video, not a single thing.

At best, AT BEST, if you ignore all of the actually researched and peer reviewed conclusions that explains much of what she questions, if you ignore all of that and you desperately want chemtrails to be real and part of some global conspiracy then some, SOME of what she is proposing would warrant further investigation.

BUT upon doing said investigation you would discover all the answers to those questions and they have nothing to do with chemtrails.

I've watched the whole video, not just the first 7 minutes and I'm left with many things.

First, if you believe this proves anything you really have no understand what so ever about what constitutes proof, none.  Ignoring all the explanations you don't like that don't fit with your predetermined notions and then using warped logic to draw wildly inaccurate conclusions from the already untrustworthy data that does fit in with your predetermined notions, this is not proof.

Secondly, I honestly believe that she thinks she's onto something, she has discovered through Google a hidden truth. In reality she is a weak minded scientifically illiterate fool spreading misinformation in order to reinforce a conspiracy theory she is far too invested in to let go now.

Thirdly, this has nothing to do with Pollen Storms at all. You've presented this as proof of those who suffered during the pollen storms were in fact victims of chemtrailing. Not Proof.

Even if you misinterpreted the health impacts of exposure to barium, you would have to dismiss all the evidence and explanations as to what actually occurred and has done so in other places around the world, you have not provided any proof at all of the use of barium.[/quote]

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 12:39pm
I have exposed the connection, the work is done

regardless of your spam .

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/thunderstorm-asthma-student-days-away-from-graduating/8048894

'Thunderstorm asthma': Four people now believed dead, could have been more, minister says

Updated 23 Nov 2016, 5:10pm



A fourth death has been attributed to Melbourne's "thunderstorm asthma" emergency on Monday night, and it was lucky there were not more according to the state's Health Minister.

More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".

Hospitals were swamped with emergency patients, while firefighters and police were called on to help paramedics respond to thousands of calls after the conditions caused breathing problems for Victorians.

Jill Hennessy, the Health Minister, said it was like "a bomb going off", with all ambulances, police, fire and non-emergency transport being used to deal with the crisis.

"Our health system was stretched to the limit," she told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"We know that we've got some people in intensive care units as well.

"At one point we had 140 code one cases, while dealing with other patients, all of them were cardiac arrests or severe respiratory conditions."




Quote:
More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).
-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 12:44pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:39pm:
I have exposed the connection, the work is done

regardless of your spam .


Hahaha after all this you accuse me of spam.  Gold.

Just keep ignoring my questions and reposting the same thing which ironically in the same post where you accuse me of spamming, you're reposting the same thing for the 5th time in this thread alone.

Who is the one spamming again?

Get a backbone, learn how to fact check and for god's sake learn how to spot the truth from bullshit online. 

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 12:57pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:44pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:39pm:
I have exposed the connection, the work is done

regardless of your spam .


Hahaha after all this you accuse me of spam.  Gold.

Just keep ignoring my questions and reposting the same thing which ironically in the same post where you accuse me of spamming, you're reposting the same thing for the 5th time in this thread alone.

Who is the one spamming again?

Get a backbone, learn how to fact check and for god's sake learn how to spot the truth from bullshit online. 


your constant spam does nothing to discredit the facts observed

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/thunderstorm-asthma-student-days-away-from-graduating/8048894

'Thunderstorm asthma': Four people now believed dead, could have been more, minister says

Updated 23 Nov 2016, 5:10pm



A fourth death has been attributed to Melbourne's "thunderstorm asthma" emergency on Monday night, and it was lucky there were not more according to the state's Health Minister.

More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".

Hospitals were swamped with emergency patients, while firefighters and police were called on to help paramedics respond to thousands of calls after the conditions caused breathing problems for Victorians.

Jill Hennessy, the Health Minister, said it was like "a bomb going off", with all ambulances, police, fire and non-emergency transport being used to deal with the crisis.

"Our health system was stretched to the limit," she told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"We know that we've got some people in intensive care units as well.

"At one point we had 140 code one cases, while dealing with other patients, all of them were cardiac arrests or severe respiratory conditions."




Quote:
More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).
-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 1:29pm
6th time now.  The spam is strong with this one.

I'm willing to continue a dialogue with you, however, it's a back and forth.  I've addressed your "evidence" and you've dismissed that, again rather ironically as with your spam claims, by claiming I've been dismissing you.

You've now brought up CNN again rather than replying to me, typical distraction, and now are ignoring my questions about your claims of Fake News with the CNN video.

There is no back and forth.  You're just changing the goal posts and refusing to answer questions and acknowledge the comments of others by accusing them of ignoring you.  What the?

That's not how it works princess.  Please answer my very simple question outlined here,

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/434#434


SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:21pm:
I've asked you before, what parts of the video do you claim irrefutably show that it is fake news, you know, the current evidence you are referring to?

Are they staging the location, is it a blue screen or is it the contents of their report? Or all?


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 1:48pm
this chemtrail information is ontopic

unlike your cnn propaganda

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/thunderstorm-asthma-student-days-away-from-graduating/8048894

'Thunderstorm asthma': Four people now believed dead, could have been more, minister says

Updated 23 Nov 2016, 5:10pm



A fourth death has been attributed to Melbourne's "thunderstorm asthma" emergency on Monday night, and it was lucky there were not more according to the state's Health Minister.

More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".

Hospitals were swamped with emergency patients, while firefighters and police were called on to help paramedics respond to thousands of calls after the conditions caused breathing problems for Victorians.

Jill Hennessy, the Health Minister, said it was like "a bomb going off", with all ambulances, police, fire and non-emergency transport being used to deal with the crisis.

"Our health system was stretched to the limit," she told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"We know that we've got some people in intensive care units as well.

"At one point we had 140 code one cases, while dealing with other patients, all of them were cardiac arrests or severe respiratory conditions."




Quote:
More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).
-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 1:53pm
the evidence is overwhelming and you think its a pollen outbreak

why ?

because msm tells you how to think and you continue the false and fake news narrative

I simply catch you out every time ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).

-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.

-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsY8LpnY2aM

Radiation crushing outdoor color! | "Fading Fast"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqloUUC_k6Y

*STUNNING UV from OREGON!* | Tropical UV in S Portland? | Team UV - USA

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 2:36pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 1:48pm:
this chemtrail information is ontopic

unlike your cnn propaganda


Your chemtrail "evidence" to justify it being the true cause of the "Pollen Storm" has been addressed and debunked, you then brought up CNN and Fake News which has left you open to questions about those claims.

Also, 7th time you've posted the above.



I know how much you like memes so I thought it's post one of my own.

I get it, you can't counter the claims made so you want to bury them.  I know it might seem like the right thing to do, but you're only doubling down on stupid.


Quote:
All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.


Even your own quote shows your evidence for what it is, "guesswork" of those who desperately want to take credit for proving chemtrails.

Continued spamming over and over your debunked "evidence" will not simply make it true, nor will the analysis of your bullshit disappear.

But even if your evidence did stand up to scrutiny, the claim that chemtrails were the cause of the Pollen Storm casualties, again one of your own claims still has no basis in reality.

It's like you're stuck in an endless loop of stupidity...

Namaste.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 16th, 2017 at 2:47pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
the evidence is overwhelming and you think its a pollen outbreak

why ?

because msm tells you how to think and you continue the false and fake news narrative


No, because there is no evidence to the contrary and there is science to backup the "fake news narrative".

I know you think you've posted evidence, but again, your bullshit has been debunked.


Quote:
I simply catch you out every time ..


No, all you're doing in running from scrutiny.

8 times now you've posted the same thing and ignored the evaluation of your evidence you demanded I do.  I watched all one hour of your video then took the time to research but a few points and presented you with that.  You have done everything since then to avoid not only facing the criticism but even acknowledging it even exists instead pushing the line that you've caught me out?

Please...

Your 'evidence' as per usual did not stand up to the most basic of scrutiny and you've reverted to "say it enough time and it will become true" mode.

Princess, that's now how it works.  It's either true or it isn't.

In your case, it isn't.  "Truth_Seeker" as well intentioned as she may be is scientifically illiterate and not only doesn't know what she's talking about, but in all 1 hour + of the video failed to offer any evidence.  There was plenty of ignoring of provable fact and insinuations that since there is no explanation (simply because she ignored it) therefore chemtrails.

It is up to you to prove your claims.  I have evaluated your proof and let you know where it is lacking (in practically every way possible for the record). 

All you have to offer is reposting it, over and over, we're at 8 times now, hoping that it will make it true?

Hilarious.

Namaste.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 11:54pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 2:47pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 1:53pm:
the evidence is overwhelming and you think its a pollen outbreak

why ?

because msm tells you how to think and you continue the false and fake news narrative


No, because there is no evidence to the contrary and there is science to backup the "fake news narrative".

I know you think you've posted evidence, but again, your bullshit has been debunked.


Quote:
I simply catch you out every time ..


No, all you're doing in running from scrutiny.

8 times now you've posted the same thing and ignored the evaluation of your evidence you demanded I do.  I watched all one hour of your video then took the time to research but a few points and presented you with that.  You have done everything since then to avoid not only facing the criticism but even acknowledging it even exists instead pushing the line that you've caught me out?

Please...

Your 'evidence' as per usual did not stand up to the most basic of scrutiny and you've reverted to "say it enough time and it will become true" mode.

Princess, that's now how it works.  It's either true or it isn't.

In your case, it isn't.  "Truth_Seeker" as well intentioned as she may be is scientifically illiterate and not only doesn't know what she's talking about, but in all 1 hour + of the video failed to offer any evidence.  There was plenty of ignoring of provable fact and insinuations that since there is no explanation (simply because she ignored it) therefore chemtrails.

It is up to you to prove your claims.  I have evaluated your proof and let you know where it is lacking (in practically every way possible for the record). 

All you have to offer is reposting it, over and over, we're at 8 times now, hoping that it will make it true?

Hilarious.

Namaste.


you seem upset at the evidence



so be it and yet the evidence remains on and for the record ..

you simply refuse to entertain or research and simply say " fraid not " and think that is a rebuttal .. it is not .

you have yet to even look at this information ,

https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/

Aluminum, Barium, and Chemtrails Explained – JUST THE FACTS



I have been researching the chemtrail phenomenon for over three years now and I am constantly asked the same questions, so to alleviate much personal grief and provide a singular source of accurate information I have created this FAQ for you to share, challenge, debate, and hopefully contribute to.  Let’s dive in:

#1 There’s Barium and Aluminum in the Chemtrails

True.

Atmospheric Aluminum A2O3

The predominate source of anthropogenic aluminum in rain and soil samples are raining down from space, blame the rockets:

Each time a space shuttle is launched, the solid rocket boosters release 240 tons of HCl gas, 26 tons of chlorine gas, 7 tons of nitrogen dioxide gas, and 304 tons of aluminum oxide into the atmosphere.  The resulting hydrochloric acid dissolves eight inches of concrete on the launch pad, raises the concentration of hydrochloric acid in nearby lakes to 3 M, produces massive fish kills in the ocean, and destroys the paint on cars.  Leading chemists believe that the HCl is a major contributor to the holes in the ozone layer.
source, see also: Space Shuttle Exhausted Aluminum Oxide’ A Measured Particle Size Distribution W. R. COFER III AND G. C. PURGOLD Atmospheric Sciences Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia E. L. WINSTEAD ST Systems Corporation, Hampton, Virginia R. A. EDAHL Materials Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia  1991

That’s right space fans, rockets!  304 tons per launch, 608,000 pounds of aluminum oxide.  But wait, there’s more!  Welcome to the future of aluminum: ALICE!

Rocket propellant has barely changed in the more than 50 years since the launch of the first artificial satellite Sputnik. But a new mixture of nano-aluminum powder and frozen water could make rocket launches more environmentally friendly, and even allow spacecraft to refuel at distant locations such as the moon or Mars.

The aluminum-ice propellant known as ALICE gets its kick from a chemical reaction between water and aluminum. Space.com 2009

The interactions between aluminum exhaust and water have been studied since 1962’s Project Highwater when Atlas rockets dumped 23,000 gallons of water into the ionosphere to make it glow (airglow).

Aluminum interacts with the ionosphere to produce airglow, as does water releases.  It does not surprise me that ALICE combines the two, here’s why:



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 11:55pm
Also, the term “green propellant” is often confusing, as many assume a green propellant has no environmental impact. Such a propellant is generally beyond the realm of physical possibility. All propellants affect the environment in some way. For instance, all launch vehicles produce exhaust. The components of this exhaust can include soot, carbon dioxide, alumina, inorganic chlorine, water vapor, sulfates, and nitrogen oxides. All of these have an environmental impact, and may contribute to climate change, ozone destruction, or upper atmospheric contrails, depending on the atmospheric layer in which they are deposited; however, the severity and duration of the impact can vary greatly. Given this fact, a green propellant is more correctly viewed as one that seeks to minimize or eliminate a critical environmental impact in one or more of the four main areas. A green propellant is likely to have its own environmental impacts, which may be equal to the current technology in certain areas. For example, many green propellants seek to eliminate hydrazine because of its biologic impact, but they still present atmospheric or space-based effects. Aerospace.org 2011

Nano-particle Aluminum Steam

They are now using nano-particle aluminum to boil frozen water, putting it in ALICE rockets, and we have to consider the possibilities of this technology as it pertains to chemtrails:

https://youtu.be/ved0K5CtmsU

Anthropogenic aluminum comes from rockets, very little comes from chemtrails if any, in my humble opinion.

Although rockets produce tons more aluminum than planes do, both are tiny compared to good ole dirt blowing up from the ground:

A LARGE SILICON-ALUMINUM AEROSOL PLUME IN CENTRAL ILLINOIS: NORTH AFRICAN DESERT DUST? 1995

During a summer atmospheric chemistry field project in central Illinois in 1979, unusually high concentration of Si, AI, and other earth’s crust elements were observed simultaneously in two series of 2-h aerosol samples collected at sites separated by about 20 km. The Si-A1 “event” persisted for about 32 h, and was accompanied by winds shifting from east through north as a weak low pressure area moved eastward across southeJrn Illinois, and a nearly stationary front moved back and forth across the study area. Comparison of aerosol Si/AI and Ca/A1 ratios during the event with those in possible sources showed that local soils, coal flyash, and A1 smelter emissions were unlikely sources of the observed plume, and focused the investigation on distant dust sources. Climatology favors north Africa over the western United States as a source of desert dust in summer.

Forty-eight hour back-trajectories from Illinois show flow from the Gulf of Mexico. Temperature and humidity soundings at Key West, Florida, three days before the onset of the dust plume in Illinois, showed a typical “Sahara air” profile, and simultaneous mineral dust measurements at Miami indicated a strong influx of North African dust at the same time. The evidence indicates that North African dust is the most likely source of the observed high concentrations of Si and AI in central Illinois in July 1979, and illustrates that long range transport can influence air quality at great distances from source a;~eas. Copyright © 1996 Elsevier Science Ltd

http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

When jet aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel to kerosene (diesel) fuel the aluminum content of the fuels skyrocketed.  See this chart Trace Element and Polycyclic Aromatic  Hydrocarbon Analyses of Jet Engine Fuels: Jet A, JP5, and JP8:



Aluminum Jet Fuel Additives

Spray Visualization of Alternative Aviation Turbine Fuel embedded with Metallic Nanoparticles
Energetic Nanoparticles as Fuel Additives for Enhanced Performance in Propulsion Systems
Reduction of emissions and fuel consumption in a compression ignition engine using nanoparticles
Nanoparticles increase biofuel performance
Why add nanoparticles? The idea, says lead author R. B. Anand, an associate professor of mechanical engineering at the National Institute of Technology in Tiruchirappalli, India, is that because of their high surface-to-volume ratio, the nanoparticles—which, in the study, had an average diameter of 51 billionths of a meter—have more reactive surfaces, allowing them to act as more efficient chemical catalysts, thus increasing fuel combustion. The presence of the particles also increases fuel–air mixing in the fuel, which leads to more complete burning.

In the study, Anand and co-author J. Sadhik Basha first used a mechanical agitator to create an emulsion consisting of jatropha biodiesel (a fuel derived from the crushed seeds of the jatropha plant), water, and a surfactant, then blended in different proportions of alumina nanoparticles. In addition to outperforming regular biofuel, the nanoparticle-spiked fuels produced significantly lower quantities of nitrogen oxide and carbon monoxide gases, and created less smoke.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 11:56pm
The researchers are now testing other types of nanoparticles, including hollow carbon nanotubes, and investigating the effects of nano-additives to engine lubrication and cooling systems. One obstacle to the application of this kind of nanotechnology is the high cost of nanoparticle production, says Anand—who also cautions that nanoparticles “should be used judiciously,” because they tend to “entrain into human bodies.“
Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2011-04-nanoparticles-biofuel.html



Atmospheric Sources of Barium

From the IPCC’s first assessment on Climate Change’s report we see confirmation that indeed barium and aluminum are in the exhaust plumes of jets.

3.2.3.2 Metal Particles

Aircraft jet engines also directly emit metal particles. Their sources include engine erosion and the combustion of fuel containing trace metal impurities or metal particles that enter the exhaust with the fuel (Chapter 7). Metal particles-comprising elements such as Al, Ti, Cr, Fe, Ni, and Ba-are estimated to be present at the parts per billion by volume (ppbv) level at nozzle exit planes (CIAP, 1975; Fordyce and Sheibley, 1975). The corresponding concentrations of 107 to 108 particles/kg fuel (assuming 1-mm radius; see below) are much smaller than for soot. Although metals have been found as residuals in cirrus and contrail ice particles (Chen et al., 1998; Petzold et al., 1998; Twohy and Gandrud, 1998), their number and associated mass are considered too small to affect the formation or properties of more abundant volatile and soot plume aerosol particles.

Aluminum, Titanium, Chromium, Iron, Nickel, and Barium are estimated to be in the parts per billion, meaning very small (trace) amounts.  Barium in jets comes from STADIS 450, an additive that has been in use since 1962 which contains trade secret chemicals and SARA 313 toxins.

Stadis 450 Barium Salt [MSDS trade secret] [MSDS full]

TRIMETHYLBENZENE (SARA 313)
10 – 30% TRADE SECRET POLYMER CONTAINING SULPHUR
5 – 10% TRADE SECRET POLYMER CONTAINING NITROGEN
NAPHTHALENE (SARA 313)

“R-11 Highly flammable. R-36 Irritating to eyes. R-67 Vapours may cause drowsiness and dizziness. R-51/53 Toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment. R-65 Harmful: may cause lung damage if swallowed. R-66 Repeated exposure may cause skin dryness or cracking. R-22 Harmful if swallowed. R-40 Limited evidence of a carcinogenic effect. R-50/53 Very toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment. Not classified. R-36/38 Irritating to eyes and skin. R-38 Irritating to skin. R-48/20 Harmful: danger of serious damage to health by prolonged exposure through inhalation. R-63 Possible risk of harm to the unborn child.”




DuPont created STADIS-450 in 1962 and ever since this barium salt fuel additive has been in every single jet fuel tank worldwide.  The purpose of STADIS-450 is to reduce static discharge from refueling to keep fuel from exploding.  Nonetheless, barium is a serious health concern for everyone on the planet.

Dinonylnaphthylsulfonic acid (DINNSA, Stadis 450)
Effects of barium fuel additive and fuel sulfur level on diesel particulate emissions
Effects of Barium-Based Additive on Diesel Exhaust Particulate
May 1963, Plasma Seeding and Magnetospheric Modification Begins




create an artificial ion cloud in interplanetary space for studying the state of the interplanetary medium .. sounding rocket experiments  Foppl et al., 1965, http://www.igpp.ucla.edu/public/mkivelso/Publications/019-RS008i011p01035.pdf

February 14, 1964 to December 3, 1964, Artificial Strontium and Barium Clouds in the Upper Atmosphere



June 1972, Project SECEDE Observations of the Developement of Striations in Large Barium Ion Clouds



Striations develop within large (12-352 kg releases) barium ion clouds in a two-stage process. First the clouds split into sheets commencing at the trailing edge of the cloud.  Then distortions-or pinching effects within the individual sheets cause the formation of field-aligned ray-like structures.
In the clouds observed, the individual sheets were 200 m to 1000 m in thickness and were spaced 700 m to 2000 m apart. Quasi-sinu-soidal waviness or spatially periodic thickenings exhibited a wavelength typically 700 m to 1000 m.When rod-like structures appeared, these were typically-200 m to 400 m in diameter and were spaced along the pre-existing sheet at 700 m to 1000 m on centers. http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=AD0757916
November 1972, ARPA Project SECEDE II barium cloud releases




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 16th, 2017 at 11:57pm
High resolution optical measurements were made of a series of high altitude barium releases at Eglin AFB during January 1971. Data was obtained on the individual cloud motions (ion and neutral), morphology, and fine structure striation development viewed up the geomagnetic field lines. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/756938.pdf

January 1974, High-explosive shaped Barium charges pound ionosphere

Hollow conical liners of barium metal, detonated above 500-km altitude, jets of barium plasma with a range of initial velocity of 8 to 20 km/sec have been created. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/JA079i001p00159/abstract

And finally, just to prove my point:

July 1990 to September 1993, CRRES Ionospheric Modification and the Arecibo Heater





SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
Yet this has nothing to do with Pollen Storms and I've read that all of this has been debunked before and attributed to other things.  Some is also Fake News.


this is not a rebuttal

you must address the science here or run away scared as you are

yet either way be at peace

namaste




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 10:02am
many sour graped sad sacks love to look at tell a lie vision , msm and avoid true reality

look up ! eyes to the skies !

https://chemtrailsplanet.net/2014/01/17/chemtrails-defined-as-exotic-weapon-in-space-preservation-act-of-2001/



Chemtrails Defined As Exotic Weapon in Space Preservation Act of 2001




HR 2977 The Space & Preservation Act of 2001: Open admission of several theoretical weapon systems

HR 2977 The Space & Preservation Act of 2001: Open admission of several theoretical weapon systems.

Complete HR-2977 (PDF)

By Antony Pudney

This Act from the US Government contains open admissions of the existence of several weapon systems that have, in the mainstream media, been a subject only to be contemplated talking about when discriminating and discrediting so-called ‘conspiracy theorists’.

The people who have the courage to bring to public light the existence of such technologies, who have turned out to be right.

This Act contains admissions of the existence or the theoretical existence of; electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons; chemtrails; high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems; plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons; laser weapons systems; strategic, theater, tactical, or extra terrestrial weapons; and chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

The terms ‘‘weapon’’ and ‘‘weapons system’’ mean a device capable of any of the following:
Damaging or destroying an object (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by firing one or more projectiles to collide with that object; detonating one or more explosive devices in close proximity to that object; directing a source of energy (including molecular or atomic energy, subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation) against that object; or any other unacknowledged or as yet undeveloped means.

Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person) through the use of any of the means described.

The term ‘‘exotic weapons systems’’ includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

Please continue reading the whole act if you wish to get a good oversight of technology that normally is denied, but as we can see is legislated for.

107TH CONGRESS
1ST SESSION H. R. 2977

To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all
humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space
by the United States, and to require the President to take action to
adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
OCTOBER 2, 2001

Mr. KUCINICH introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee
on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed Services,
and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently determined
by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such provisions as fall
within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned
A BILL

To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the
benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the
basing of weapons in space by the United States, and
to require the President to take action to adopt and
implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa2
tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
4 This Act may be cited as the ‘‘Space Preservation Act
5 of 2001’’.

•HR 2977 IH
1 SEC. 2. REAFFIRMATION OF POLICY ON THE PRESERVA2
TION OF PEACE IN SPACE.
3 Congress reaffirms the policy expressed in section
4 102(a) of the National Aeronautics and Space Act of 1958
5 (42 U.S.C. 2451(a)), stating that it ‘‘is the policy of the
6 United States that activities in space should be devoted
7 to peaceful purposes for the benefit of all mankind.’’.
8 SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN
9 SPACE.
10 The President shall—
11 (1) implement a permanent ban on space-based
12 weapons of the United States and remove from
13 space any existing space-based weapons of the
14 United States; and
15 (2) immediately order the permanent termi16
nation of research and development, testing, manu17
facturing, production, and deployment of all space18
based weapons of the United States and their com19
ponents.
20 SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAP21
ONS.
22 The President shall direct the United States rep23
resentatives to the United Nations and other international
24 organizations to immediately work toward negotiating,
25 adopting, and implementing a world agreement banning
26 space-based weapons.

•HR 2977 IH
1 SEC. 5. REPORT.
2 The President shall submit to Congress not later than
3 90 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, and
4 every 90 days thereafter, a report on—
5 (1) the implementation of the permanent ban
6 on space-based weapons required by section 3; and
7 (2) progress toward negotiating, adopting, and

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 10:03am
8 implementing the agreement described in section 4.
9 SEC. 6. NON SPACE-BASED WEAPONS ACTIVITIES.
10 Nothing in this Act may be construed as prohibiting
11 the use of funds for—
12 (1) space exploration;
13 (2) space research and development;
14 (3) testing, manufacturing, or production that
15 is not related to space-based weapons or systems; or
16 (4) civil, commercial, or defense activities (in17
cluding communications, navigation, surveillance, re18
connaissance, early warning, or remote sensing) that
19 are not related to space-based weapons or systems.
20 SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.
21 In this Act:
22 (1) The term ‘‘space’’ means all space extend23
ing upward from an altitude greater than 60 kilo24
meters above the surface of the earth and any celes25
tial body in such space.

•HR 2977 IH
1 (2)(A) The terms ‘‘weapon’’ and ‘‘weapons sys2
tem’’ mean a device capable of any of the following:
3 (i) Damaging or destroying an object
4 (whether in outer space, in the atmosphere, or
5 on earth) by—
6 (I) firing one or more projectiles to
7 collide with that object;
8 (II) detonating one or more explosive
9 devices in close proximity to that object;
10 (III) directing a source of energy (in11
cluding molecular or atomic energy, sub12
atomic particle beams, electromagnetic ra13
diation, plasma, or extremely low frequency
14 (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) en15
ergy radiation) against that object; or
16 (IV) any other unacknowledged or as
17 yet undeveloped means.
18 (ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or dam19
aging or destroying, a person (or the biological
20 life, bodily health, mental health, or physical
21 and economic well-being of a person)—
22 (I) through the use of any of the
23 means described in clause (i) or subpara24
graph (B);

•HR 2977 IH
1 (II) through the use of land-based,
2 sea-based, or space-based systems using
3 radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic,
4 sonic, laser, or other energies directed at
5 individual persons or targeted populations
6 for the purpose of information war, mood
7 management, or mind control of such per8
sons or populations; or
9 (III) by expelling chemical or biologi10
cal agents in the vicinity of a person.
11 (B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems
12 such as—
13 (i) electronic, psychotronic, or information
14 weapons;
15 (ii) chemtrails;
16 (iii) high altitude ultra low frequency
17 weapons systems;
18 (iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ul19
trasonic weapons;
20 (v) laser weapons systems;
21 (vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extra22
terrestrial weapons; and
23 (vii) chemical, biological, environmental,
24 climate, or tectonic weapons.

•HR 2977 IH
1 (C) The term ‘‘exotic weapons systems’’ in2
cludes weapons designed to damage space or natural
3 ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper at4
mosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems
5 with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction
6 upon a target population or region on earth or in
7 space.

Original Document:

https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-107hr2977ih/pdf/BILLS-107hr2977ih.pdf

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 17th, 2017 at 11:01am

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:57pm:
this is not a rebuttal

you must address the science here or run away scared as you are


Yet every time I address you claims you repost over and over the same bullshit again and again to bury my reply and you don't bother to acknowledge it or respond, yet you want me to waste more of my time on your further spam?

What right do you have to ask of me what you refuse to do in return?

Give and take requires give, not just take you know...

But really, your mind is made up on this subject, you're looking for petty wins to "prove" you're right but you're unable to substantiate your claims despite the ad nauseum reposting and claims of science.  So far, from what I have spent an undue time reading and watching as well as researching after the fact, you're full of nothing but poo.

You don't understand the scientific process, some of your sources are flat out scientifically illiterate yet you hold their claims, or mostly their questions "maybe this, maybe that, perhaps" as fact, and worst of all literally hide from questions yourself and have no idea what so ever what constitutes proof, facts or evidence.

There is no point in me continuing this dialogue with your because you claim a position of superiority but you offer nothing in terms of give and take.

I do what you ask, you run from it, bury it with spam, then when I refuse to play you game you accuse me of running away?

Well, if you must, through sheer spam and wearing me down until I don't care anymore, you have you victory.

Chemtrails are real, the science proves it and there is no such thing as pollen storms, those people had a bad reaction through chemtrailed cloud seeding of barium even though their symptoms don't match the miniscule amounts of barium that could be held in the clouds, you were right I was wrong.

Enjoy your hollow victory won through spam and lost interest rather than prosecuting and proving your case.

But as a conspiracy nut, that's all you need right?

Troll on my friend, troll on.

I eagerly await your crying memes or what ever other idiotic tactic you can think of to trick yourself into thinking you were right.

Namaste.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 11:34am

SadKangaroo wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 11:01am:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:57pm:
this is not a rebuttal

you must address the science here or run away scared as you are


Yet every time I address you claims you repost over and over the same bullshit again and again to bury my reply and you don't bother to acknowledge it or respond, yet you want me to waste more of my time on your further spam?

What right do you have to ask of me what you refuse to do in return?

Give and take requires give, not just take you know...

But really, your mind is made up on this subject, you're looking for petty wins to "prove" you're right but you're unable to substantiate your claims despite the ad nauseum reposting and claims of science.  So far, from what I have spent an undue time reading and watching as well as researching after the fact, you're full of nothing but poo.

You don't understand the scientific process, some of your sources are flat out scientifically illiterate yet you hold their claims, or mostly their questions "maybe this, maybe that, perhaps" as fact, and worst of all literally hide from questions yourself and have no idea what so ever what constitutes proof, facts or evidence.

There is no point in me continuing this dialogue with your because you claim a position of superiority but you offer nothing in terms of give and take.

I do what you ask, you run from it, bury it with spam, then when I refuse to play you game you accuse me of running away?

Well, if you must, through sheer spam and wearing me down until I don't care anymore, you have you victory.

Chemtrails are real, the science proves it and there is no such thing as pollen storms, those people had a bad reaction through chemtrailed cloud seeding of barium even though their symptoms don't match the miniscule amounts of barium that could be held in the clouds, you were right I was wrong.

Enjoy your hollow victory won through spam and lost interest rather than prosecuting and proving your case.

But as a conspiracy nut, that's all you need right?

Troll on my friend, troll on.

I eagerly await your crying memes or what ever other idiotic tactic you can think of to trick yourself into thinking you were right.

Namaste.


yes boo hoo you continue to choose msm fake news over reality



so be it

namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 11:37am
this is a bombshell connection that has been established here ..yet many refuse reality and continue the fake news narrative ..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/thunderstorm-asthma-student-days-away-from-graduating/8048894

'Thunderstorm asthma': Four people now believed dead, could have been more, minister says

Updated 23 Nov 2016, 5:10pm



A fourth death has been attributed to Melbourne's "thunderstorm asthma" emergency on Monday night, and it was lucky there were not more according to the state's Health Minister.

More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".

Hospitals were swamped with emergency patients, while firefighters and police were called on to help paramedics respond to thousands of calls after the conditions caused breathing problems for Victorians.

Jill Hennessy, the Health Minister, said it was like "a bomb going off", with all ambulances, police, fire and non-emergency transport being used to deal with the crisis.

"Our health system was stretched to the limit," she told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"We know that we've got some people in intensive care units as well.

"At one point we had 140 code one cases, while dealing with other patients, all of them were cardiac arrests or severe respiratory conditions."




Quote:
More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).
-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 17th, 2017 at 12:31pm
Memes and spam followed by posting the same video and the same link that I already replied directly to yet you're still demanding for answers you've already been given.

This is why I give up with you.  You are the definition of time wasted.

If it makes you feel better you can take it as a win, I really don't care.  It seems winning is more important than objective reality so be my guest.  Just give the forum server a break and stop reposting everything. I'm surprised your spam has not attracted the attention of the mods to be honest.

And if you're going to crybaby gif me, please find a new one or be creative, something...

Oh and here's a hint, all this reposting and spamming you do, that only reveals that you're the crybaby, but again, objective reality doesn't seem to be you thing.

Namaste.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 12:44pm
you think that repeating fake news gives you power

it has failed you for you are embroiled within an outdated fake news reality

you have rebutted nothing and the facts remain unmolested

you do not have to be here with your spam to say " oh I give up with you " .. the reason is your fake news narrative is blasted with truth and facts in which you cannot refute

and so it is yet keep on trucking though

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 12:46pm
its quite simple ..

you cannot refute these facts , boo hoo for you

https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/

Aluminum, Barium, and Chemtrails Explained – JUST THE FACTS



I have been researching the chemtrail phenomenon for over three years now and I am constantly asked the same questions, so to alleviate much personal grief and provide a singular source of accurate information I have created this FAQ for you to share, challenge, debate, and hopefully contribute to.  Let’s dive in:

#1 There’s Barium and Aluminum in the Chemtrails

True.

Atmospheric Aluminum A2O3

The predominate source of anthropogenic aluminum in rain and soil samples are raining down from space, blame the rockets:

Each time a space shuttle is launched, the solid rocket boosters release 240 tons of HCl gas, 26 tons of chlorine gas, 7 tons of nitrogen dioxide gas, and 304 tons of aluminum oxide into the atmosphere.  The resulting hydrochloric acid dissolves eight inches of concrete on the launch pad, raises the concentration of hydrochloric acid in nearby lakes to 3 M, produces massive fish kills in the ocean, and destroys the paint on cars.  Leading chemists believe that the HCl is a major contributor to the holes in the ozone layer.
source, see also: Space Shuttle Exhausted Aluminum Oxide’ A Measured Particle Size Distribution W. R. COFER III AND G. C. PURGOLD Atmospheric Sciences Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia E. L. WINSTEAD ST Systems Corporation, Hampton, Virginia R. A. EDAHL Materials Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia  1991

That’s right space fans, rockets!  304 tons per launch, 608,000 pounds of aluminum oxide.  But wait, there’s more!  Welcome to the future of aluminum: ALICE!

Rocket propellant has barely changed in the more than 50 years since the launch of the first artificial satellite Sputnik. But a new mixture of nano-aluminum powder and frozen water could make rocket launches more environmentally friendly, and even allow spacecraft to refuel at distant locations such as the moon or Mars.

The aluminum-ice propellant known as ALICE gets its kick from a chemical reaction between water and aluminum. Space.com 2009

The interactions between aluminum exhaust and water have been studied since 1962’s Project Highwater when Atlas rockets dumped 23,000 gallons of water into the ionosphere to make it glow (airglow).

Aluminum interacts with the ionosphere to produce airglow, as does water releases.  It does not surprise me that ALICE combines the two, here’s why:



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 12:47pm
Also, the term “green propellant” is often confusing, as many assume a green propellant has no environmental impact. Such a propellant is generally beyond the realm of physical possibility. All propellants affect the environment in some way. For instance, all launch vehicles produce exhaust. The components of this exhaust can include soot, carbon dioxide, alumina, inorganic chlorine, water vapor, sulfates, and nitrogen oxides. All of these have an environmental impact, and may contribute to climate change, ozone destruction, or upper atmospheric contrails, depending on the atmospheric layer in which they are deposited; however, the severity and duration of the impact can vary greatly. Given this fact, a green propellant is more correctly viewed as one that seeks to minimize or eliminate a critical environmental impact in one or more of the four main areas. A green propellant is likely to have its own environmental impacts, which may be equal to the current technology in certain areas. For example, many green propellants seek to eliminate hydrazine because of its biologic impact, but they still present atmospheric or space-based effects. Aerospace.org 2011

Nano-particle Aluminum Steam

They are now using nano-particle aluminum to boil frozen water, putting it in ALICE rockets, and we have to consider the possibilities of this technology as it pertains to chemtrails:

https://youtu.be/ved0K5CtmsU

Anthropogenic aluminum comes from rockets, very little comes from chemtrails if any, in my humble opinion.

Although rockets produce tons more aluminum than planes do, both are tiny compared to good ole dirt blowing up from the ground:

A LARGE SILICON-ALUMINUM AEROSOL PLUME IN CENTRAL ILLINOIS: NORTH AFRICAN DESERT DUST? 1995

During a summer atmospheric chemistry field project in central Illinois in 1979, unusually high concentration of Si, AI, and other earth’s crust elements were observed simultaneously in two series of 2-h aerosol samples collected at sites separated by about 20 km. The Si-A1 “event” persisted for about 32 h, and was accompanied by winds shifting from east through north as a weak low pressure area moved eastward across southeJrn Illinois, and a nearly stationary front moved back and forth across the study area. Comparison of aerosol Si/AI and Ca/A1 ratios during the event with those in possible sources showed that local soils, coal flyash, and A1 smelter emissions were unlikely sources of the observed plume, and focused the investigation on distant dust sources. Climatology favors north Africa over the western United States as a source of desert dust in summer.

Forty-eight hour back-trajectories from Illinois show flow from the Gulf of Mexico. Temperature and humidity soundings at Key West, Florida, three days before the onset of the dust plume in Illinois, showed a typical “Sahara air” profile, and simultaneous mineral dust measurements at Miami indicated a strong influx of North African dust at the same time. The evidence indicates that North African dust is the most likely source of the observed high concentrations of Si and AI in central Illinois in July 1979, and illustrates that long range transport can influence air quality at great distances from source a;~eas. Copyright © 1996 Elsevier Science Ltd

http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

When jet aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel to kerosene (diesel) fuel the aluminum content of the fuels skyrocketed.  See this chart Trace Element and Polycyclic Aromatic  Hydrocarbon Analyses of Jet Engine Fuels: Jet A, JP5, and JP8:



Aluminum Jet Fuel Additives

Spray Visualization of Alternative Aviation Turbine Fuel embedded with Metallic Nanoparticles
Energetic Nanoparticles as Fuel Additives for Enhanced Performance in Propulsion Systems
Reduction of emissions and fuel consumption in a compression ignition engine using nanoparticles
Nanoparticles increase biofuel performance
Why add nanoparticles? The idea, says lead author R. B. Anand, an associate professor of mechanical engineering at the National Institute of Technology in Tiruchirappalli, India, is that because of their high surface-to-volume ratio, the nanoparticles—which, in the study, had an average diameter of 51 billionths of a meter—have more reactive surfaces, allowing them to act as more efficient chemical catalysts, thus increasing fuel combustion. The presence of the particles also increases fuel–air mixing in the fuel, which leads to more complete burning.

In the study, Anand and co-author J. Sadhik Basha first used a mechanical agitator to create an emulsion consisting of jatropha biodiesel (a fuel derived from the crushed seeds of the jatropha plant), water, and a surfactant, then blended in different proportions of alumina nanoparticles. In addition to outperforming regular biofuel, the nanoparticle-spiked fuels produced significantly lower quantities of nitrogen oxide and carbon monoxide gases, and created less smoke.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 12:47pm
The researchers are now testing other types of nanoparticles, including hollow carbon nanotubes, and investigating the effects of nano-additives to engine lubrication and cooling systems. One obstacle to the application of this kind of nanotechnology is the high cost of nanoparticle production, says Anand—who also cautions that nanoparticles “should be used judiciously,” because they tend to “entrain into human bodies.“
Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2011-04-nanoparticles-biofuel.html



Atmospheric Sources of Barium

From the IPCC’s first assessment on Climate Change’s report we see confirmation that indeed barium and aluminum are in the exhaust plumes of jets.

3.2.3.2 Metal Particles

Aircraft jet engines also directly emit metal particles. Their sources include engine erosion and the combustion of fuel containing trace metal impurities or metal particles that enter the exhaust with the fuel (Chapter 7). Metal particles-comprising elements such as Al, Ti, Cr, Fe, Ni, and Ba-are estimated to be present at the parts per billion by volume (ppbv) level at nozzle exit planes (CIAP, 1975; Fordyce and Sheibley, 1975). The corresponding concentrations of 107 to 108 particles/kg fuel (assuming 1-mm radius; see below) are much smaller than for soot. Although metals have been found as residuals in cirrus and contrail ice particles (Chen et al., 1998; Petzold et al., 1998; Twohy and Gandrud, 1998), their number and associated mass are considered too small to affect the formation or properties of more abundant volatile and soot plume aerosol particles.

Aluminum, Titanium, Chromium, Iron, Nickel, and Barium are estimated to be in the parts per billion, meaning very small (trace) amounts.  Barium in jets comes from STADIS 450, an additive that has been in use since 1962 which contains trade secret chemicals and SARA 313 toxins.

Stadis 450 Barium Salt [MSDS trade secret] [MSDS full]

TRIMETHYLBENZENE (SARA 313)
10 – 30% TRADE SECRET POLYMER CONTAINING SULPHUR
5 – 10% TRADE SECRET POLYMER CONTAINING NITROGEN
NAPHTHALENE (SARA 313)

“R-11 Highly flammable. R-36 Irritating to eyes. R-67 Vapours may cause drowsiness and dizziness. R-51/53 Toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment. R-65 Harmful: may cause lung damage if swallowed. R-66 Repeated exposure may cause skin dryness or cracking. R-22 Harmful if swallowed. R-40 Limited evidence of a carcinogenic effect. R-50/53 Very toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment. Not classified. R-36/38 Irritating to eyes and skin. R-38 Irritating to skin. R-48/20 Harmful: danger of serious damage to health by prolonged exposure through inhalation. R-63 Possible risk of harm to the unborn child.”




DuPont created STADIS-450 in 1962 and ever since this barium salt fuel additive has been in every single jet fuel tank worldwide.  The purpose of STADIS-450 is to reduce static discharge from refueling to keep fuel from exploding.  Nonetheless, barium is a serious health concern for everyone on the planet.

Dinonylnaphthylsulfonic acid (DINNSA, Stadis 450)
Effects of barium fuel additive and fuel sulfur level on diesel particulate emissions
Effects of Barium-Based Additive on Diesel Exhaust Particulate
May 1963, Plasma Seeding and Magnetospheric Modification Begins




create an artificial ion cloud in interplanetary space for studying the state of the interplanetary medium .. sounding rocket experiments  Foppl et al., 1965, http://www.igpp.ucla.edu/public/mkivelso/Publications/019-RS008i011p01035.pdf

February 14, 1964 to December 3, 1964, Artificial Strontium and Barium Clouds in the Upper Atmosphere



June 1972, Project SECEDE Observations of the Developement of Striations in Large Barium Ion Clouds



Striations develop within large (12-352 kg releases) barium ion clouds in a two-stage process. First the clouds split into sheets commencing at the trailing edge of the cloud.  Then distortions-or pinching effects within the individual sheets cause the formation of field-aligned ray-like structures.
In the clouds observed, the individual sheets were 200 m to 1000 m in thickness and were spaced 700 m to 2000 m apart. Quasi-sinu-soidal waviness or spatially periodic thickenings exhibited a wavelength typically 700 m to 1000 m.When rod-like structures appeared, these were typically-200 m to 400 m in diameter and were spaced along the pre-existing sheet at 700 m to 1000 m on centers. http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=AD0757916
November 1972, ARPA Project SECEDE II barium cloud releases




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 12:48pm
High resolution optical measurements were made of a series of high altitude barium releases at Eglin AFB during January 1971. Data was obtained on the individual cloud motions (ion and neutral), morphology, and fine structure striation development viewed up the geomagnetic field lines. http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/756938.pdf

January 1974, High-explosive shaped Barium charges pound ionosphere

Hollow conical liners of barium metal, detonated above 500-km altitude, jets of barium plasma with a range of initial velocity of 8 to 20 km/sec have been created. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/JA079i001p00159/abstract

And finally, just to prove my point:

July 1990 to September 1993, CRRES Ionospheric Modification and the Arecibo Heater





SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
Yet this has nothing to do with Pollen Storms and I've read that all of this has been debunked before and attributed to other things.  Some is also Fake News.


this is not a rebuttal

you must address the science here or run away scared as you are



yet either way be at peace

namaste




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 17th, 2017 at 1:31pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:44pm:
you think that repeating fake news gives you power

it has failed you for you are embroiled within an outdated fake news reality


Just so you know what happened, you are claiming the pollen storm was to do with chemtrails, yet you have yet to offer any proof of this.

I started going through the material you posted and I pointed out the "Truth_Seeker" even with her good intentions is scientifically illiterate and the claims you're hanging your hat on are from her saying "maybe this" and "maybe that", or "it could be".

You have offered no evidence to support the claim.  You are getting confused with trying to prove chemtrails but not their link to the pollen storm.

You have made some fundamental mistakes in linking the symptoms of the two and ignore exposure levels required to trigger said symptoms and they don't match those seen anyway.  You can't pick and choose the symptoms of barium exposure and ignore all those that weren't seen during the pollen storm.  At the same time the levels of barium needed to trigger symptoms will remain at testable levels within the body for 2 to 4 weeks depending on the health of the person.  So your claim that it can't be tested for because it doesn't accumulate in the body is false.

That's right, you're using the fact that something can't be proven as proof it happened.  Only it can be proven therefore the lack of proof does not equal proof...  Just no...

You are again hanging your hat on information from laughably unqualified opinions.


Quote:
you have rebutted nothing and the facts remain unmolested


I'd direct you for a 5th time to my post, buy you'll just burry it with spam, again... What's the point?

But just in case, here it is.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/419#419


Quote:
you do not have to be here with your spam to say " oh I give up with you " .. the reason is your fake news narrative is blasted with truth and facts in which you cannot refute


I can and did refute an entire source and all her claims from the "first 7 minutes of evidence" from the video and I went on to watch and check what justifications she made to reach her conclusions in the other hour of the video.  Again, like you, she doesn't understand the burden of proof.

I also suspect that you haven't even watched the whole video yourself, you've just picked up a summation from a conspiracy blog that fit with what you believe and have run with that. 

Where is your fact checking?

It's like the first thing you check is "does this prove what I believe", if yes, than it's true, if no then it's ignored.

That's now how this works sweetheart.  Proof takes more than selective opinions.  No amount of you crying with spam or cries of fake news will change that.


Quote:
namaste


Mate you've not posted any truth or facts.  That's your problem, you can't tell truth from bullshit.  You're an idiot.  I don't care what you think.  You clearly don't think.  From all your claims etc you just don't get it.  But that's ok in your mind because that only strengthens your belief that you're right and you have some hidden truth that nobody else can see.

Good luck with that.

Also, I love how you're trying to use my claims against me, like that "I" am spamming...  It takes all of 15 seconds to see that I've been replying to you and you've been posting the same posts, with the same highlights over and over for pages and pages over days and days.  You're using spam to hide your tears yet you claim I'm the cry baby.

Please...

I will concede that I reposted my analysis once as you'd tried to bury it with your spam, but since then I keep linking to it and each time (like the above), after you've demanded my answers and I link you to them, you respond by spamming again.  I expect you to do the same again in this post but I'll go one further, you won't even read the whole thing, latch onto a few works and reply about fake news.

You're not fooling anyone, they can fact check that in 15 bloody seconds.  You're a joke and it's not even funny anymore.

Namaste

PS. Like I said, if you need to take this as a victory since you seem so fragile, go ahead, enjoy your empty win.

If you'd like to take part in the discussion and actually address the answers I've given you that you keep demanding then I'm happy to rejoin you, but so far this has turned out just like the fake news thread.  You demand I look at your evidence and accept what you're saying as true, I check your evidence and it either doesn't stand up to scrutiny or you run away from questions and then just keep reposting your same crap over and over and repeat the demands for me to look at it and accept your truth, even though I already did that but you just didn't like me questioning you.

You have a pattern and it is one of somebody who doesn't understand the burden of proof and cannot tell objective facts from bullshit.  Unless you show a willingness to change and grow we'll be stuck on this never ending merry go round.

Well, I'm getting off it now.  As always I'll leave the door open for you, but you have shown you're lacking in any creditability thus far to walk back through it.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 17th, 2017 at 1:32pm
Wow in the time it took me to write that you spammed again the same 4 posts.  Bravo.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 1:34pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 12:44pm:
you think that repeating fake news gives you power

it has failed you for you are embroiled within an outdated fake news reality


Just so you know what happened, you are claiming the pollen storm was to do with chemtrails, yet you have yet to offer any proof of this.

I started going through the material you posted and I pointed out the "Truth_Seeker" even with her good intentions is scientifically illiterate and the claims you're hanging your hat on are from her saying "maybe this" and "maybe that", or "it could be".

You have offered no evidence to support the claim.  You are getting confused with trying to prove chemtrails but not their link to the pollen storm.

You have made some fundamental mistakes in linking the symptoms of the two and ignore exposure levels required to trigger said symptoms and they don't match those seen anyway.  You can't pick and choose the symptoms of barium exposure and ignore all those that weren't seen during the pollen storm.  At the same time the levels of barium needed to trigger symptoms will remain at testable levels within the body for 2 to 4 weeks depending on the health of the person.  So your claim that it can't be tested for because it doesn't accumulate in the body is false.

That's right, you're using the fact that something can't be proven as proof it happened.  Only it can be proven therefore the lack of proof does not equal proof...  Just no...

You are again hanging your hat on information from laughably unqualified opinions.


Quote:
you have rebutted nothing and the facts remain unmolested


I'd direct you for a 5th time to my post, buy you'll just burry it with spam, again... What's the point?

But just in case, here it is.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/419#419

[quote]you do not have to be here with your spam to say " oh I give up with you " .. the reason is your fake news narrative is blasted with truth and facts in which you cannot refute


I can and did refute an entire source and all her claims from the "first 7 minutes of evidence" from the video and I went on to watch and check what justifications she made to reach her conclusions in the other hour of the video.  Again, like you, she doesn't understand the burden of proof.

I also suspect that you haven't even watched the whole video yourself, you've just picked up a summation from a conspiracy blog that fit with what you believe and have run with that. 

Where is your fact checking?

It's like the first thing you check is "does this prove what I believe", if yes, than it's true, if no then it's ignored.

That's now how this works sweetheart.  Proof takes more than selective opinions.  No amount of you crying with spam or cries of fake news will change that.


Quote:
namaste


Mate you've not posted any truth or facts.  That's your problem, you can't tell truth from bullshit.  You're an idiot.  I don't care what you think.  You clearly don't think.  From all your claims etc you just don't get it.  But that's ok in your mind because that only strengthens your belief that you're right and you have some hidden truth that nobody else can see.

Good luck with that.

Also, I love how you're trying to use my claims against me, like that "I" am spamming...  It takes all of 15 seconds to see that I've been replying to you and you've been posting the same posts, with the same highlights over and over for pages and pages over days and days.  You're using spam to hide your tears yet you claim I'm the cry baby.

Please...

I will concede that I reposted my analysis once as you'd tried to bury it with your spam, but since then I keep linking to it and each time (like the above), after you've demanded my answers and I link you to them, you respond by spamming again.  I expect you to do the same again in this post but I'll go one further, you won't even read the whole thing, latch onto a few works and reply about fake news.

You're not fooling anyone, they can fact check that in 15 bloody seconds.  You're a joke and it's not even funny anymore.

Namaste

PS. Like I said, if you need to take this as a victory since you seem so fragile, go ahead, enjoy your empty win.

If you'd like to take part in the discussion and actually address the answers I've given you that you keep demanding then I'm happy to rejoin you, but so far this has turned out just like the fake news thread.  You demand I look at your evidence and accept what you're saying as true, I check your evidence and it either doesn't stand up to scrutiny or you run away from questions and then just keep reposting your same crap over and over and repeat the demands for me to look at it and accept your truth, even though I already did that but you just didn't like me questioning you.

You have a pattern and it is one of somebody who doesn't understand the burden of proof and cannot tell objective facts from bullshit.  Unless you show a willingness to change and grow we'll be stuck on this never ending merry go round.

Well, I'm getting off it now.  As always I'll leave the door open for you, but you have shown you're lacking in any creditability thus far to walk back through it.[/quote]

still wont rebut the facts

just song and dance, boo hoo


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 17th, 2017 at 1:44pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
still wont rebut the facts

just song and dance, boo hoo


It's a shame, I thought you might actually read the post and respond for a change.  There were actually some facts in there that you ignored that debunk your link between chemtrails and the pollen storm, such as the levels of barium that you claim were seeded into the clouds via chemtrailing would have to be at a level to cause symptoms that would have been easily found via testing those who came in up to 4 weeks after the exposure, but instead more memes.

Well done.

If all you have as evidence is the lack of evidence you're in trouble there princess.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 1:50pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 1:44pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 1:34pm:
still wont rebut the facts

just song and dance, boo hoo


It's a shame, I thought you might actually read the post and respond for a change.  There were actually some facts in there that you ignored that debunk your link between chemtrails and the pollen storm, such as the levels of barium that you claim were seeded into the clouds via chemtrailing would have to be at a level to cause symptoms that would have been easily found via testing those who came in up to 4 weeks after the exposure, but instead more memes.

Well done.

If all you have as evidence is the lack of evidence you're in trouble there princess.


you simply do not have the programming from your msm to rebut the truth posted

however desperate you are you cannot achieve it

and wont .

so run along until you rebut these facts

https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/

all you have if abuse and thats so sad for you

hence your moniker

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm
You ignored those facts again...

How cowardly.

You do every time what you accuse me of...  Pathetic.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 17th, 2017 at 2:01pm
ok lets try again

rebut these facts here lets see if you can do it ,

rather than dancing around like a punch drunk inebriated booze hound

https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/

#1 There’s Barium and Aluminum in the Chemtrails

True.

Atmospheric Aluminum A2O3

The predominate source of anthropogenic aluminum in rain and soil samples are raining down from space, blame the rockets:

Each time a space shuttle is launched, the solid rocket boosters release 240 tons of HCl gas, 26 tons of chlorine gas, 7 tons of nitrogen dioxide gas, and 304 tons of aluminum oxide into the atmosphere.  The resulting hydrochloric acid dissolves eight inches of concrete on the launch pad, raises the concentration of hydrochloric acid in nearby lakes to 3 M, produces massive fish kills in the ocean, and destroys the paint on cars.  Leading chemists believe that the HCl is a major contributor to the holes in the ozone layer.
source, see also: Space Shuttle Exhausted Aluminum Oxide’ A Measured Particle Size Distribution W. R. COFER III AND G. C. PURGOLD Atmospheric Sciences Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia E. L. WINSTEAD ST Systems Corporation, Hampton, Virginia R. A. EDAHL Materials Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia  1991

That’s right space fans, rockets!  304 tons per launch, 608,000 pounds of aluminum oxide.  But wait, there’s more!  Welcome to the future of aluminum: ALICE!

Rocket propellant has barely changed in the more than 50 years since the launch of the first artificial satellite Sputnik. But a new mixture of nano-aluminum powder and frozen water could make rocket launches more environmentally friendly, and even allow spacecraft to refuel at distant locations such as the moon or Mars.

The aluminum-ice propellant known as ALICE gets its kick from a chemical reaction between water and aluminum. Space.com 2009

The interactions between aluminum exhaust and water have been studied since 1962’s Project Highwater when Atlas rockets dumped 23,000 gallons of water into the ionosphere to make it glow (airglow).


This nano-particle ALICE is now being dubbed as a green-solution to the Aluminum mess they have made:

Also, the term “green propellant” is often confusing, as many assume a green propellant has no environmental impact. Such a propellant is generally beyond the realm of physical possibility. All propellants affect the environment in some way. For instance, all launch vehicles produce exhaust. The components of this exhaust can include soot, carbon dioxide, alumina, inorganic chlorine, water vapor, sulfates, and nitrogen oxides. All of these have an environmental impact, and may contribute to climate change, ozone destruction, or upper atmospheric contrails, depending on the atmospheric layer in which they are deposited; however, the severity and duration of the impact can vary greatly. Given this fact, a green propellant is more correctly viewed as one that seeks to minimize or eliminate a critical environmental impact in one or more of the four main areas. A green propellant is likely to have its own environmental impacts, which may be equal to the current technology in certain areas. For example, many green propellants seek to eliminate hydrazine because of its biologic impact, but they still present atmospheric or space-based effects. Aerospace.org 2011

Nano-particle Aluminum Steam

They are now using nano-particle aluminum to boil frozen water, putting it in ALICE rockets, and we have to consider the possibilities of this technology as it pertains to chemtrails:

https://youtu.be/ved0K5CtmsU

rebut this section and comment on the media presentation if you are serious .

yet either way be at peace

namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
ok lets try again

rebut these facts here lets see if you can do it ,

rather than dancing around like a punch drunk inebriated booze hound


I won't be wasting my time on you, as I've told you.  I've played you game, danced to your tune, you ignore the result and start spamming.

Like I said, when you're ready to give rather than just take we can talk. 

But no, my analysis, the facts I've rebutted with, they all go ignored by you, but not only that you keep spamming these posts to bury them so you don't have to address them.

You're a hypocrite of the highest order.  You keep demanding I accept your facts and answer your questions when you run from the same.

It stops here.

Namaste.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Jovial Monk on May 17th, 2017 at 4:03pm
Booby did exactly the same, never answered a question or debated anything about his stupid ice age videos, would repost videos just to avoid answering and cover up questions, points raised etc.

E.g. a fox fell through thin ice into the Danube and was, so it was claimed, flash frozen. That requires the Danube there and then to be made of liquid nitrogen but, nope, no discussion of that.

Faith—a dirty word to me, I prefer “reason.”

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 18th, 2017 at 2:57am

SadKangaroo wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
ok lets try again

rebut these facts here lets see if you can do it ,

rather than dancing around like a punch drunk inebriated booze hound


I won't be wasting my time on you, as I've told you.  I've played you game, danced to your tune, you ignore the result and start spamming.

Like I said, when you're ready to give rather than just take we can talk. 

But no, my analysis, the facts I've rebutted with, they all go ignored by you, but not only that you keep spamming these posts to bury them so you don't have to address them.

You're a hypocrite of the highest order.  You keep demanding I accept your facts and answer your questions when you run from the same.

It stops here.

Namaste.


@ Reply #465

thought so .. off you go then ,





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 18th, 2017 at 7:43am
You're not fooling anyone Light.  Even your spam can't erase the last 4 pages of your attempts to run and hide from scrutiny behind reposts and dimwitted gifs.

Namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on May 18th, 2017 at 8:09am
The thing I love about chemtrail conspiracy types is the reasoning as to how millions of people worldwide are in on the conspiracy, from airline pilots to ground staff to aircraft manufacturers - and yet not a single person has gone public and produced any evidence of some kind of sprayer on a passenger aircraft

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Jovial Monk on May 18th, 2017 at 8:12am
Actual proof is not something conspiracy theorists want. Imagine there was a “chemtrail” conspiracy and it was found out and the “sprayers” removed—then what would the conspiracy nuts do?

It is like the conspiracy that we are in an ice age. The storms in Kansas etc prove it, some of the red winter wheat crop lost. That gets reported by those profiting from the ice age conspiracy crap (your gubberment is hiding the TROOTH from you!) but not the four months of abnormally hot winter and spring weather! That weather saw the wheat crop far advanced from what it normally is there this time of year (booting stage) and that is what did the damage. But not according to the conspiracy nuts!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on May 18th, 2017 at 10:03am
LOL indeed.

Then there's the ridiculous over-the-top methods worthy of a James Bond film behind the whole thing

I mean, if you goal is to get chemicals into our bodies, why go to the trouble and cost of:-

Fitting sprayers to aircraft
Paying off the people who fit them
Paying off the flight crew
Shipping the chemicals to an airport past the public and hoping no-one notices
Paying off airport workers while you fill the super-secret tanks on the plane
Hoping your chemicals end up where you want them

...when you could simply get two of your conspiracy agents to back a truck up to a damn or reservoir and put chemicals in the water supply at night

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Jovial Monk on May 18th, 2017 at 10:06am
Ah but but but that is the follow up stage!  :D :D :D :D

If some nutcase can swallow that a fox was flash frozen after falling through thin ice they can swallow anything—except rationality, real evidence etc. I mean, the state of the Arctic should show anyone with two braincells to rub together that we are not in an ice age but over 20,000 deluded nutcases like Booby believe that we are.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 18th, 2017 at 12:30pm

Stig wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 8:09am:
The thing I love about chemtrail conspiracy types is the reasoning as to how millions of people worldwide are in on the conspiracy, from airline pilots to ground staff to aircraft manufacturers - and yet not a single person has gone public and produced any evidence of some kind of sprayer on a passenger aircraft



careful ,your ignorance is showing

http://in5d.com/exposed-photos-from-inside-chemtrail-planes-like-youve-never-seen-before/





































ii

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 18th, 2017 at 12:33pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 8:12am:
Actual proof is not something conspiracy theorists want. Imagine there was a “chemtrail” conspiracy and it was found out and the “sprayers” removed—then what would the conspiracy nuts do?

It is like the conspiracy that we are in an ice age. The storms in Kansas etc prove it, some of the red winter wheat crop lost. That gets reported by those profiting from the ice age conspiracy crap (your gubberment is hiding the TROOTH from you!) but not the four months of abnormally hot winter and spring weather! That weather saw the wheat crop far advanced from what it normally is there this time of year (booting stage) and that is what did the damage. But not according to the conspiracy nuts!


try not to bring your ice age conspiracy rubbish here





and focus on the title thread , yet either way

be at peace

namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 18th, 2017 at 12:36pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:18pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 17th, 2017 at 2:01pm:
ok lets try again

rebut these facts here lets see if you can do it ,

rather than dancing around like a punch drunk inebriated booze hound


I won't be wasting my time on you, as I've told you.  I've played you game, danced to your tune, you ignore the result and start spamming.

Like I said, when you're ready to give rather than just take we can talk. 

But no, my analysis, the facts I've rebutted with, they all go ignored by you, but not only that you keep spamming these posts to bury them so you don't have to address them.

You're a hypocrite of the highest order.  You keep demanding I accept your facts and answer your questions when you run from the same.

It stops here.

Namaste.


@ Reply #465

kangaroo has lost and conceded ..

he cannot answer to the Reply #465 a simple rebuttal is asked and he cannot refute because he is sadly out of his depth ..

and as such has lost in his sour graped frappe of fail



boo hoo so sad for him

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 18th, 2017 at 12:39pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 8:12am:
Actual proof is not something conspiracy theorists want. Imagine there was a “chemtrail” conspiracy and it was found out and the “sprayers” removed—then what would the conspiracy nuts do?

It is like the conspiracy that we are in an ice age. The storms in Kansas etc prove it, some of the red winter wheat crop lost. That gets reported by those profiting from the ice age conspiracy crap (your gubberment is hiding the TROOTH from you!) but not the four months of abnormally hot winter and spring weather! That weather saw the wheat crop far advanced from what it normally is there this time of year (booting stage) and that is what did the damage. But not according to the conspiracy nuts!


the proof is supplied and so now you have the opportunity to put up or shut up ..

the evidence is here and so you can start rebutting the evidence provided in #465 ..

or you can run away like a little school girl and admit you are way out of your intellectual depth ..

yet either way be at peace ,

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 18th, 2017 at 12:55pm

Jovial Monk wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 10:06am:
Ah but but but that is the follow up stage!  :D :D :D :D

If some nutcase can swallow that a fox was flash frozen after falling through thin ice they can swallow anything—except rationality, real evidence etc. I mean, the state of the Arctic should show anyone with two braincells to rub together that we are not in an ice age but over 20,000 deluded nutcases like Booby believe that we are.


you are offtopic with your conspiracy theory




try to stay ontopic and rebut the evidences provided

or run away yet either way be at peace

namaste

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 18th, 2017 at 1:29pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 12:36pm:
kangaroo has lost and conceded ..


If you're that fragile take the win, I really don't care about you or what crack pot bullshit you believe in. 

But just so you know, random out of context photos that could show anything doesn't equate to proof, but it's well established that you can't tell fact from bullshit so I'll leave that alone.


Quote:
he cannot answer to the Reply #465 a simple rebuttal is asked and he cannot refute because he is sadly out of his depth ..


Yeah, only I answered you, then asked you some questions in return and rather than answer them or even acknowledge my answers, you keep demanding them, accuse me of spamming when I repost or link to them, then continue to spam the poo out of this thread with the same tired bullshit over and over. 

Again, you've guilty of everything you're accusing me of and it makes you nothing but a lying, fake news spreading hypocrite.


Quote:
and as such has lost in his sour graped frappe of fail
boo hoo so sad for him

namaste


Edited:

It just got interesting in here, I take that back :)

Light can still go get stuffed however.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on May 18th, 2017 at 1:31pm


Chemtrailers using photos of airliner testing and claiming it shows chemtrail conspiracies are proved? - tell me it isn't so!

Chemtrail fail

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on May 18th, 2017 at 1:39pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 12:30pm:




Nope - it shows a photo taken from a industry website for firefighting.


The pressurized retardant tanks on the 747 Supertanker. The retardant is forced out by compressed air, much like on the MAFF C-130 air tankers.

http://wildfiretoday.com/2009/07/30/747-supertankers-world-tour/

Chemtrail fail!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 18th, 2017 at 1:50pm
How embarrassing for Light, shown to be spreading FAKE NEWS again.  The humiliation...  Again showing that he cannot tell truth from bullshit.

More information on your lies here Light, if you care to read it,

https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-chemtrail-plane-interior-ballast-barrels.t661/

(Please just go to the link, don't make me copy and paste it 1000 times and spam the thread like you do)

I will take any non-answer of yours to be that you,

"have lost, conceded and cannot answer a simple rebuttal asked and you cannot refute because you are sadly out of your depth"

(so many grammatical errors to correct when using your own words against you light, yikes...)


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 1:46am
wow great fake news website debunks chemtrails yeah rIgHt !

ok lets try again

rebut these facts here lets see if you can do it ,

rather than dancing around like a punch drunk inebriated booze hound

https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/

#1 There’s Barium and Aluminum in the Chemtrails

True.

Atmospheric Aluminum A2O3

The predominate source of anthropogenic aluminum in rain and soil samples are raining down from space, blame the rockets:

Each time a space shuttle is launched, the solid rocket boosters release 240 tons of HCl gas, 26 tons of chlorine gas, 7 tons of nitrogen dioxide gas, and 304 tons of aluminum oxide into the atmosphere.  The resulting hydrochloric acid dissolves eight inches of concrete on the launch pad, raises the concentration of hydrochloric acid in nearby lakes to 3 M, produces massive fish kills in the ocean, and destroys the paint on cars.  Leading chemists believe that the HCl is a major contributor to the holes in the ozone layer.
source, see also: Space Shuttle Exhausted Aluminum Oxide’ A Measured Particle Size Distribution W. R. COFER III AND G. C. PURGOLD Atmospheric Sciences Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia E. L. WINSTEAD ST Systems Corporation, Hampton, Virginia R. A. EDAHL Materials Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia  1991

That’s right space fans, rockets!  304 tons per launch, 608,000 pounds of aluminum oxide.  But wait, there’s more!  Welcome to the future of aluminum: ALICE!

Rocket propellant has barely changed in the more than 50 years since the launch of the first artificial satellite Sputnik. But a new mixture of nano-aluminum powder and frozen water could make rocket launches more environmentally friendly, and even allow spacecraft to refuel at distant locations such as the moon or Mars.

The aluminum-ice propellant known as ALICE gets its kick from a chemical reaction between water and aluminum. Space.com 2009

The interactions between aluminum exhaust and water have been studied since 1962’s Project Highwater when Atlas rockets dumped 23,000 gallons of water into the ionosphere to make it glow (airglow).


This nano-particle ALICE is now being dubbed as a green-solution to the Aluminum mess they have made:

Also, the term “green propellant” is often confusing, as many assume a green propellant has no environmental impact. Such a propellant is generally beyond the realm of physical possibility. All propellants affect the environment in some way. For instance, all launch vehicles produce exhaust. The components of this exhaust can include soot, carbon dioxide, alumina, inorganic chlorine, water vapor, sulfates, and nitrogen oxides. All of these have an environmental impact, and may contribute to climate change, ozone destruction, or upper atmospheric contrails, depending on the atmospheric layer in which they are deposited; however, the severity and duration of the impact can vary greatly. Given this fact, a green propellant is more correctly viewed as one that seeks to minimize or eliminate a critical environmental impact in one or more of the four main areas. A green propellant is likely to have its own environmental impacts, which may be equal to the current technology in certain areas. For example, many green propellants seek to eliminate hydrazine because of its biologic impact, but they still present atmospheric or space-based effects. Aerospace.org 2011

Nano-particle Aluminum Steam

They are now using nano-particle aluminum to boil frozen water, putting it in ALICE rockets, and we have to consider the possibilities of this technology as it pertains to chemtrails:

https://youtu.be/ved0K5CtmsU

rebut this section and comment on the media presentation if you are serious .

yet either way be at peace

namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on May 19th, 2017 at 1:53am
So the Al comes from chemtrails? Then you say most of it comes from rockets? Make up your mind boy. If they wanted more Al in the atmosphere, why the chemtrails? Why not more rockets? If most of it comes from rockets, why chemtrails?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 1:56am
thats just for starters ..

https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/3.57845




there is much more info here , to digest


https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 1:56am
this is a bombshell connection that has been established here ..yet many refuse reality and continue the fake news narrative ..

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-23/thunderstorm-asthma-student-days-away-from-graduating/8048894

'Thunderstorm asthma': Four people now believed dead, could have been more, minister says

Updated 23 Nov 2016, 5:10pm



A fourth death has been attributed to Melbourne's "thunderstorm asthma" emergency on Monday night, and it was lucky there were not more according to the state's Health Minister.

More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".

Hospitals were swamped with emergency patients, while firefighters and police were called on to help paramedics respond to thousands of calls after the conditions caused breathing problems for Victorians.

Jill Hennessy, the Health Minister, said it was like "a bomb going off", with all ambulances, police, fire and non-emergency transport being used to deal with the crisis.

"Our health system was stretched to the limit," she told 774 ABC Melbourne.

"We know that we've got some people in intensive care units as well.

"At one point we had 140 code one cases, while dealing with other patients, all of them were cardiac arrests or severe respiratory conditions."




Quote:
More than 2,000 people suffered breathing problems when a severe storm combined with an extreme pollen count to cause what is being described as "thunderstorm asthma".



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8

I THINK I KNOW WHY THEY ARE CHEM-TRAILING WITH BARIUM - EXPLAINED IN THE FIRST 7 MINUTES + MY PROOF

Published on Apr 26, 2017
I genuinely hope that this is a solid, well-rounded, rational explanation of what might be going on. Something possible that our community can build upon and progress with. A start toward understanding what is beyond our control. My focus is on Barium, but that is only the beginning.

-The cloud layer is highly reflective and refractive, creating the perfect barrier to keep out prying eyes, and to prevent certain communications.
-We don’t know what is going on with the sun, and this cloud layer is perfect to cloak this.
-To create ion traps by generating a cloud layer laced with Barium (possibly to deplete any unwanted gasses), send a Radio Frequency Wave through it, and harvest anti-protons for CERN’s quantum computer.

How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).
-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.

All of these are a by-product of something else- the same way a pharmaceutical will have side-effects as it “fixes” the main problem. My guess is, we only know of the “side-effects” until now.


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on May 19th, 2017 at 2:23am

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:56am:
thats just for starters ..

https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/3.57845




there is much more info here , to digest


https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/


Hang on, we know you can post crap like no other. You said chemtrails, made by planes, put the Al in the atmosphere, now you are telling us it's the rockets.

Which is it? Why do I feel like I'm back on page one of this thread?


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 7:53am

Setanta wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 2:23am:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:56am:
thats just for starters ..

https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/3.57845




there is much more info here , to digest


https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/


Hang on, we know you can post crap like no other. You said chemtrails, made by planes, put the Al in the atmosphere, now you are telling us it's the rockets.

Which is it? Why do I feel like I'm back on page one of this thread?


many blessings

1. the title of the thread is " epic chemtrails " delivered by whatever means into the atmosphere , earth and water  .. you apparently cannot decipher that distinction .

2. the definition of chemtrails is not limited to some pre conceived conception one may or may not embody .

3. chemtrails include the junk, and very toxic substances and chemicals that is extrapolated by humans , by however means , and this includes ,

a . chemical trails of barium , aluminium , strontium and other toxins are real and here is one published paper of real science proving that fact

http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

b. the toxic substances from rockets


Quote:
Each time a space shuttle is launched, the solid rocket boosters release 240 tons of HCl gas, 26 tons of chlorine gas, 7 tons of nitrogen dioxide gas, and 304 tons of aluminum oxide into the atmosphere.  The resulting hydrochloric acid dissolves eight inches of concrete on the launch pad, raises the concentration of hydrochloric acid in nearby lakes to 3 M, produces massive fish kills in the ocean, and destroys the paint on cars.  Leading chemists believe that the HCl is a major contributor to the holes in the ozone layer.
source, see also: Space Shuttle Exhausted Aluminum Oxide’ A Measured Particle Size Distribution W. R. COFER III AND G. C. PURGOLD Atmospheric Sciences Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia E. L. WINSTEAD ST Systems Corporation, Hampton, Virginia R. A. EDAHL Materials Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia  1991


c. the chemical used in fire fighting which is in fact chemtrail junk being sprayed onto nature and scientists say not to spray within 300 m of lakes and such

http://www.sgvtribune.com/general-news/20160723/is-that-red-fire-retardant-dropped-from-planes-during-wildfires-safe-for-humans-and-the-environment



Quote:
Witter explained that firefighting pilots are given maps, showing where not to release the material. The USFS says it should never be used within 300 feet of lakes, creeks, streams or any body of water.

“There is enough research out there that says it is pretty toxic to aquatic areas,” said Rick Halsey, director of The Chaparral Institute in Escondido. “They are supposed to make sure they don’t drop it in water and streams.”





this is totally bazaar that people allow this to happen

and attack anyone whom notices these crimes against nature

https://www.facebook.com/AustraliansAgainstChemtrails/



d. " corexit " is totally toxic and has severely damaged the oceans and ecosystem

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/04/bp-corexit-deepwater-horizon-epa-dispersant



Oil and dispersant in the Gulf of Mexico, a month after BP's Deepwater Horizon spill began

and so , in closing this post these are but a few brief points of concern shared to raise awareness of and upon the nasty chemicals being sprayed onto nature and humans .

people get very upset and abuse this writer when such valuable information is shared , and yet fortunately this has no effect unto altering or effecting the motive behind the momentum to rectify this crime against humanity and nature .

many even go to this extent



to throw a hissy fit then engage in some long winded blowbaged sad sacked panty bunch to convey dismay at the proven fact in and of as much ..

this is quite ok and cool

namaste




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 8:17am

Setanta wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 2:23am:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:56am:
thats just for starters ..

https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/3.57845




there is much more info here , to digest


https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/


Hang on, we know you can post crap like no other. You said chemtrails, made by planes, put the Al in the atmosphere, [highlight]now you are telling us it's the rockets.[highlight]

Which is it? Why do I feel like I'm back on page one of this thread?


some are attempting to rebut this information , and so

we are looking at the material step by step to see if any can discredit the data ..

https://climateviewer.com/2015/03/15/aluminum-barium-and-chemtrails-explained-just-the-facts/

the rocket data , which is very interesting , is at the very start of the material we are digesting

there is much more info but alas the inebriated punch drunk sad sacks cannot, and vehemently refuse , to get past the first portion they are attempting to discredit .

at 2:30 am in the morning in ones drunken stupor , this fact may be lost upon the one in question and confusion ..have a wild guess at whom that may be that is clueless asking such inane conjecture  ?

one may indeed wonder in love and light

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 8:27am
Sorry guys, this is my fault.

I read that light was claiming that the pollen storm that Melbourne recently experienced with tragic consequences had nothing to do with pollen but was instead the result of the government seeding the clouds with barium via chemtrails and that perfectly explained the symptoms and despite it being impossible to prove because it can't be tested as barium does not bio-accumulate and disperses and goes away it's the more believable explanation (even though I'll show below that this is a lie, FAKE NEWS! if you will.  You can easily test for barium levels).

The idea that ruptured pollen due to the atmospheric conditions and moister/humidity conducive to thunderstorm creation during peak periods of grass pollen counts in the air matched with the fact that 1 in 6 Australians have hay fever or allergic rhinitis (a reaction to pollen) and the resulting ruptured grass pollen can release up to 700 starch granules which are now small enough to bypass all of the normal defences (that would present as regular hay fever when trapped in the nose) and enter the lungs directly which for those with the allergies, especially those with asthma can lead to severe outcomes can't be true because, chemtrails, or so we're told.

No it's not that, it's not the cause that can be replicated in a laboratory or that we've seen happen in other countries around the world, it's the conspiracy theory that due to it's design can't even be tested for (untrue) which ultimately proves it true, like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Naturally my immediate reaction was to literally laugh out loud and I posted as much here.

Light then demanded I, back on page 28, accept his facts in the video he posted so I watched it, and not just the first 7 minutes that apparently makes her case but the whole hour plus. I replied based on that here.

The video has nothing to do with pollen storms and is an attempt to justify chemtrails. The author of the video "Truth_Seeker" firstly admitted that,

"I don't fully understand everything and may have gotten a few things wrong"

And yeah, she's correct. She is almost totally scientifically illiterate. Her video then goes on and on with "I thought maybe" or "this could explain" but these are her opinions that she admittedly stated were born from her already accepting chemtrailing as real and working backwards from there looking for proof. She holds an opinion that she is looking for "facts" to verify, not forming her opinion from the facts.

But rather than me reposting the analysis again, which I've had to do already, you can use the link about to read it.

Following this, rather than Light accepting my answer that he asked for, he instead proceeds to claim I have not answered, I was running from the truth and proceeded to repost the same martial over and over each time I provided him with a link to my answer.

So far a total of 20 times (#414, #416, #418, #425, #426, #427, #436, #438, #440, #441, #444, #445, #447, #452, #455, #456, #457, #458 & again in #486 above).

But to that I will say, the idea that the pollen storms was due to barium, my question to you Light, why only the one single symptom? Where were all the other symptoms from barium toxicity?

You can't just cherry pick the symptoms you like that are associated with allergic reactions to pollen and ignore the rest, you know the low blood potassium, cardiac arrhythmias, respiratory failure, gastrointestinal dysfunction, paralysis, muscle twitching, and elevated blood pressure?[url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11920972]link[/url].

And since people died surely that would indicate a severe barium toxicity which can lead to kidney damage, respiratory failure, and death.[url=http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1928890]link[/url]?

At this point you're using the opinions of someone who admit they believe the Government is chemtrailing to harvest antiprotons for quantum computers and to create a reflective barrier in the sky to help intercept phone calls and wifi signals as well as disrupt satellite imagery, who also admited that she doesn't have a very good understanding of what she is talking about and on top of that, you're using her QUESTIONS, such as "maybe this explains" rather than actual facts as your proof of chemtrails then using your own scientific illiteracy to link a single symptom of barium exposure ignoring all the others requiring exposure levels that are not even possible with chemtrailling even if it were real to "prove" that the pollen storms were the result of chemtrailed seeded clouds with barium causing extreme reactions in people.

You have failed the most basic burden of proof, spectacularly, again.

Oh and by the way, it's very easy to test for barium levels in people. They can be tested bone, blood, feces or urine samples.

So if barium was the cause of the pollen storm deaths, where are the reports of all the other symptoms of barium exposure in the thousands of people who were impacted and for those who died there should have been obvious levels of barium given the much higher exposure they needed in order to cause death?

I eagerly await your response.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 8:39am

Quote:
So if barium was the cause of the pollen storm deaths, where are the reports of all the other symptoms of barium exposure in the thousands of people who were impacted and for those who died there should have been obvious levels of barium given the much higher exposure they needed in order to cause death?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barium


Quote:
Toxicity

Because of the high reactivity of the metal, toxicological data are available only for compounds.[26] Water-soluble barium compounds are poisonous. In low doses, barium ions act as a muscle stimulant, and higher doses affect the nervous system, causing cardiac irregularities, tremors, weakness, anxiety, shortness of breath, and paralysis. This toxicity may be caused by Ba2+ blocking potassium ion channels, which are critical to the proper function of the nervous system.[27] Other organs damaged by water-soluble barium compounds (i.e., barium ions) are the eyes, immune system, heart, respiratory system, and skin[26] causing, for example, blindness and sensitization.[26]

Barium is not carcinogenic[26] and it does not bioaccumulate.[28][29]



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bioaccumulation



SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 8:27am:
Sorry guys, this is my fault.


yes it is ,

you are trying to hide from these facts delivered here and attempting to confuse and hide your incompetence in not addressing what is happening here , dismissing these facts and going around the mulberry bush dancing the drunken dance of a sad sacked sour graped conspiraloon .. now focus here and we shall address what you have been avoiding after you bring your attention here ..

many blessings

1. the title of the thread is " epic chemtrails " delivered by whatever means into the atmosphere , earth and water  .. you apparently cannot decipher that distinction .

2. the definition of chemtrails is not limited to some pre conceived conception one may or may not embody .

3. chemtrails include the junk, and very toxic substances and chemicals that is extrapolated by humans , by however means , and this includes ,

a . chemical trails of barium , aluminium , strontium and other toxins are real and here is one published paper of real science proving that fact

http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

b. the toxic substances from rockets


Quote:
Each time a space shuttle is launched, the solid rocket boosters release 240 tons of HCl gas, 26 tons of chlorine gas, 7 tons of nitrogen dioxide gas, and 304 tons of aluminum oxide into the atmosphere.  The resulting hydrochloric acid dissolves eight inches of concrete on the launch pad, raises the concentration of hydrochloric acid in nearby lakes to 3 M, produces massive fish kills in the ocean, and destroys the paint on cars.  Leading chemists believe that the HCl is a major contributor to the holes in the ozone layer.
source, see also: Space Shuttle Exhausted Aluminum Oxide’ A Measured Particle Size Distribution W. R. COFER III AND G. C. PURGOLD Atmospheric Sciences Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia E. L. WINSTEAD ST Systems Corporation, Hampton, Virginia R. A. EDAHL Materials Division, NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Virginia  1991


c. the chemical used in fire fighting which is in fact chemtrail junk being sprayed onto nature and scientists say not to spray within 300 m of lakes and such

http://www.sgvtribune.com/general-news/20160723/is-that-red-fire-retardant-dropped-from-planes-during-wildfires-safe-for-humans-and-the-environment



Quote:
Witter explained that firefighting pilots are given maps, showing where not to release the material. The USFS says it should never be used within 300 feet of lakes, creeks, streams or any body of water.

“There is enough research out there that says it is pretty toxic to aquatic areas,” said Rick Halsey, director of The Chaparral Institute in Escondido. “They are supposed to make sure they don’t drop it in water and streams.”





this is totally bazaar that people allow this to happen

and attack anyone whom notices these crimes against nature

https://www.facebook.com/AustraliansAgainstChemtrails/



d. " corexit " is totally toxic and has severely damaged the oceans and ecosystem

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2015/04/bp-corexit-deepwater-horizon-epa-dispersant



Oil and dispersant in the Gulf of Mexico, a month after BP's Deepwater Horizon spill began

and so , in closing this post these are but a few brief points of concern shared to raise awareness of and upon the nasty chemicals being sprayed onto nature and humans .

people get very upset and abuse this writer when such valuable information is shared , and yet fortunately this has no effect unto altering or effecting the motive behind the momentum to rectify this crime against humanity and nature .

many even go to this extent



to throw a hissy fit then engage in some long winded blowbaged sad sacked panty bunch to convey dismay at the proven fact in and of as much ..

this is quite ok and cool

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 9:48am
Light, that's great and all, you included your crying gif and reposted the same bullshit again, how unexpected /s, but you also side stepped the question you quoted, that being where are all the reports of the other symptoms of barium exposure? 

You even quoted what they were,


it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 8:39am:

Quote:
Toxicity

Because of the high reactivity of the metal, toxicological data are available only for compounds.[26] Water-soluble barium compounds are poisonous. In low doses, barium ions act as a muscle stimulant, and higher doses affect the nervous system, causing cardiac irregularities, tremors, weakness, anxiety, shortness of breath, and paralysis. This toxicity may be caused by Ba2+ blocking potassium ion channels, which are critical to the proper function of the nervous system.[27] Other organs damaged by water-soluble barium compounds (i.e., barium ions) are the eyes, immune system, heart, respiratory system, and skin[26] causing, for example, blindness and sensitization.[26]

Barium is not carcinogenic[26] and it does not bioaccumulate.[28][29]


Care to address that glaring hole in your "logic" or will you just post another crying gif and spam the question away again?

And yes, barium may not bioaccumulate and can be metabolised by the body and broken down into smaller compounds, I never claimed otherwise, but do you know what that actually means? 

It doesn't mean you can't test for it, there are still traces in the body again, as I've explained to you before, they can exist in bone, blood, feces or urine samples and they can exist in high enough levels to point to toxicity and poisoning for up to 4 weeks after exposure depending on the health of the person. 

The bioaccumulation line you keep throwing out there, that's not the get out of jail free card you seem to think it is.

Are you saying out of the 1000s of people who sought health care during the storm none of them had their blood tested or showed any other symptom of barium exposure other than what was caused by allergic reactions to pollen?


it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 8:39am:
b. the toxic substances from rockets


I'm going to stop you there.

I've never entered into a debate about the validity of chemtrails with you.  Yes there may be the odd pointing out that your "evidence" of chemtrailing photos were actually those of firefighting equipment (which hilariously you dismissed as fake news), but you and I have always been talking about your claim that barium exposure due to chemtrails was the cause of the deaths and reactions during the Melbourne Pollen Storm.

You keep posting "proof" which I have addressed and as the above you ignore it, claim it's fake news, distract and side step points, cherry pick quotes, repost the same material that you've got replies to at spam levels and include childish insults and gifs.

Anything to address the giant holes in your narrative.

And now you're changing the notion of "chemtrailing" to be pollution from rocket launches.

The only common element with everything that you post is that you present the opinions, yes opinions of others as observable scientific fact supported by testing and evidence.  You're spreading fake news.

There is no scientific bases in what you've been posting, just "maybes" and "what ifs".

But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 11:52am

Quote:
I've never entered into a debate about the validity of chemtrails with you.


so you admit chemtrails are real .. ?

while you ponder your answer lets look at how poisoned the bees are by chemtrailing



http://www.naturalnews.com/050161_aluminum_contamination_bee_deaths_dementia.html#

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3112575/Bees-suffer-dementia-metal-pollution-Aluminium-contamination-insect-decline.html

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0127665

https://www.rt.com/news/265600-bees-alzheimer-aluminium-pollution/


namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 12:02pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 11:52am:

Quote:
I've never entered into a debate about the validity of chemtrails with you.


so you admit chemtrails are real .. ?


Far from it, the idea is so laughably absurd and would require a global conspiracy kept secret by 100,000's of people, but I'm not even entering that part of the debate.  The size of people involved in faking the moon landing was one thing, but the fact you think there is a secret Government Controlled underbelly in our general aviation system is frankly hilarious, but I'm not talking about chemtrails in general.

I've only ever been talking to you about your claim that chemtrails were the cause of the Melbourne Pollen Storm casualties and deaths, more specifically cloud seeding with barium.

Now please, rather than avoiding my questions, I invite you one more time to actually answer them.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/492#492

Thanks in advance.

Namaste.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 12:04pm
this is a very interesting phenomenon to investigate ..

the pollen story just does not add up .

http://allnewspipeline.com/Thunderstorm_Asthma_Bio_Weapon_Attack.php

Something Very Strange Is Going On In The Pacific - A 'Perfect Cocktail' Of 'Toxic Death Dumps'

- Were Nearly 10,000 Hospitalized In Australia Victims Of A Bio-Weapon Attack?



By Stefan Stanford - All News Pipeline - Live Free Or Die

All News Pipeline received an email on Thursday from a reader who lives in Australia who was very concerned that the recent 'thunderstorms' that killed at least 4 people and put 8,500+ others into hospitals around the Melbourne, Australia area were anything but 'normal' thunderstorms. As Samantha tells us, she is very concerned that a possible bioweapon attack had been carried out upon Australia and while ANP is unable to confirm her theory at this time, we will outline some very strong evidence below that proves something very, very strange indeed is going on in Australia and throughout large parts of the Pacific.

For those who may have missed it, back on Monday November 21st, massive thunderstorms kicked up a major health emergency after 'heavy rain caused rye grass pollen to absorb moisture and burst, dispersing smaller particles that became trapped in people's lungs', according to official reports. Leading to the deaths of at least 4 people and the hospitalization of almost 10 thousand, medical experts there described the event as unprecedented:

When we've had people calling for ambulances — one call every four-and-a-half seconds at the peak — it was like having 150 bombs going off right across a particular part of metropolitan Melbourne," she said.

"That's something we've never planned for and we need to do that better."



And while most Americans and people across the entire world now know that we'll never get the truth about real issues from the rapidly dying mainstream media, as we read within the linked stories below and see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears in the first two videos, there is plenty of evidence to indicate that 'weather modification' is now taking place across Australia.

First, for those who still don't believe in weather warfare or weather modification, we suggest you read Steve Quayle's book "Weather Wars And Un-Natural Disasters" and read up on all of the weather modification patents long documented by Dane Wigington over at his Geoengineering Watch website.

As this Thursday story from The Watchers tells us, a spell of very unusual weather has been reported across Australia over the last few days with widespread snow falling in Tasmania on November 24th of 2016, only days before the arrival of their summer. We're also told that heavy rains, landslides and floods recently hit New Caledonia, an island just outside of Australia with huge rainfall amounts as seen in the image below right.




We also hear reports of the use of massive amounts of chemtrails over Melbourne prior to the 'thunderstorm asthma outbreak' in the 1st video below in which our videographer, from Australia himself, tells us he's been living in that area for over 50 years and has never experienced anything like what happened on Monday before. Telling us that the amount of chemtrails sprayed over the area had led him to go see the doctor prior to Monday's 'attack', it's clear that he isn't 'buying' the official explanation either.

With HAARP ring signatures seen over parts of Australia by those following weather patterns as detailed in much more depth in the 2nd video below, our videographer also gets into chemtrails and one US weatherman's explanation several years ago of US Air Force planes spreading 'chaff' into the sky in chemtrails as also heard in the 3rd video below.

Giving us absolute proof that weather modification has been going on for a very long time despite the fact that the Washington Post and all of the other rapidly dying mainstream news media outlets will call weather warfare and weather modification 'fake news', we see even more evidence that something very strange is going on in the Pacific.

As we learned from the recent SQnote seen below which linked to this story from Strange Sounds telling us Tokyo had seen their first November snow storm in more than 50 years, this indicates weather warfare manipulation was secondary to the earthquake generation. Is it just a coincidence that a hurricane and earthquake also hit just off of the Pacific coast of Central America as shared in this linked Yahoo news story and seen in the Drudge Report headlines also below?




Was what happened in Australia on Monday some kind of a 'dry run' for additional weather warfare attacks in the future, possibly upon much larger populations? Imagine such a situation happening here in America - suddenly and out of the blue, a massive thunderstorm hits with howling winds and heavy rainfall, stirring up all of the poisons that have been delivered by chemtrails sprayed upon us, sending thousands to the hospitals unable to breath and dying.

We can hear TPTB right now: "Just blame it on the weather... 'thunderstorm asthma'...yeah, that's it."

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 12:05pm










Well, ANP reader Samantha in Australia isn't buying it and after watching the videos below and reading comments from others, we see that very few others are buying the official explanation either. Do these videos and recent events reported above provide us with 100% proof that weather modification has been taking place in Australia?

As we read in some of the comments screenshot above from people living in Australia, nobody believes the official explanation of 'thunderstorm asthma' as the people of Australia tell us what they really think is going on. From theories of a perfect cocktail of poisons being sprayed upon them to 'toxic death dumps', we also see that people from other parts of the world are also reporting death being sprayed upon them from above as well.

Will Americans and the world ever get the truth about chemtrails and weather modification? If you asked the MSM, any and all such talk is 'fake news', despite years and years of weather modification patents and official US govt documents to prove them wrong.

https://youtu.be/PIfLkWq9iJk

https://youtu.be/cZGoXHL2v-g

https://youtu.be/ev1Z67pXCxA


http://allnewspipeline.com/Thunderstorm_Asthma_Bio_Weapon_Attack.php


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 12:17pm
this is an amazing amalgamated composite of evidence here ..

I invite people to laugh at me .. to ridicule me.

I am highly intelligent ,humble and continue to question and investigate my reality

I do not allow others to think for me or tell me what reality is ..many do though and yes they do, which is ok and cool ,

and yet if you take the time to research you will see

there is more to the story than one official narrative from the MSM fake news brigade

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R3W5mfGtC8

The Official Hagmann & Hagmann Report-Steve Quayle-WEATHER WARS & CHEMTRAILS

Published on Jul 10, 2015
BE SURE TO VISIT OUR SITE FOR THE LATEST IN PROPHETIC UPDATES FROM AROUND THE GLOBE:

http://www.HagmannAndHagmann.com

We’ve all seen it. You awaken in the morning and are greeted by beautiful clear, cerulean blue skies. There’s not a cloud to be seen in the sky above you. As the day progresses, you notice the crisscross patterns of white “trails” in the sky, hanging, there, forming a barrier between the sun and the ground. Soon, the clear day turns into an overcast mess of less defined, milky, ropelike strokes of… what?

If you like the “average” person, you attribute the soupy mass of atmospheric obscurity to routine aircraft travel combined with normal cloud formation. After all, what else would any sane and rational person think? Asked differently, what sane and rational person or group would intentionally muddy the sky above us with a toxic mix of chemicals that shortens lifespans, causes deforestation, and modifies weather? The answer is that no sane and rational person or group would do such a thing – but the maniacal globalist powers are neither sane nor rational.

Despite the damning evidence appearing in the sky directly above us, too few will admit that something is amiss… that we are not being told the truth about what we are seeing being “engineered” in the sky. Most will write off their observations to the normal “contrails” of commercial aircraft, and others, well, just don’t even seem to notice – or care. Still others will mock and ridicule those who question the obvious.

The questions now becomes these: What is taking place in the sky above us? Is there some type of aerial spraying taking place designed for a purpose that the average person is not being told?

The answers might surprise many, but will definitely upset the way that you look at those clear to muddied skies from this point forward. The ONLY requirement is your intellectual honesty that would allow you to objectively look at the evidence that will be presented tonight.

Steve Quayle's Website:
http://www.SteveQuayle.com

Dane Higington's Website:
http://www.GeoEngineeringWatch.org
Category
News & Politics

I CHALLENGE YOU TO LOOK UP AND CRITICALLY OBSERVE THE " CLOUDS "



yet either way be at peace

namaste





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 12:20pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:04pm:
this is a very interesting phenomenon to investigate ..

the pollen story just does not add up .


By all means investigate it, but I would suggest you first answer my questions rather than continue running away and posting further distractions, and secondly "investigating" does not mean abandon the search for provable fact and instead latch onto what every conspiracy posting that reenforces the uninformed lie you told so you don't have to lose face.

And the AllNewsPipeline... Really?  They're such conspiracy nuts that they even ban other true believers because they dare question the site admins...  Facts don't matter to them.  Very poor choice there light.



The problem is you can't prove the claim you made about chemtrails being the source of the Pollen Storm casualties but you're too chicken poo to just admit it.  We've been going around in circles because you won't just be a man and admit that while you'd love it to be true because you might finally have some proof that chemtrails are real, you made it up, plain and simple.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 12:26pm
I just posted this article with evidence and you simply reject it and continue your baseless attack .

very feeble and disingenuous you prove yourself to be

and this would indicate you are a government operative discrediting this information

and not very well I may add .. so lets look again

http://allnewspipeline.com/Thunderstorm_Asthma_Bio_Weapon_Attack.php

Something Very Strange Is Going On In The Pacific - A 'Perfect Cocktail' Of 'Toxic Death Dumps'

- Were Nearly 10,000 Hospitalized In Australia Victims Of A Bio-Weapon Attack?



By Stefan Stanford - All News Pipeline - Live Free Or Die

All News Pipeline received an email on Thursday from a reader who lives in Australia who was very concerned that the recent 'thunderstorms' that killed at least 4 people and put 8,500+ others into hospitals around the Melbourne, Australia area were anything but 'normal' thunderstorms. As Samantha tells us, she is very concerned that a possible bioweapon attack had been carried out upon Australia and while ANP is unable to confirm her theory at this time, we will outline some very strong evidence below that proves something very, very strange indeed is going on in Australia and throughout large parts of the Pacific.

For those who may have missed it, back on Monday November 21st, massive thunderstorms kicked up a major health emergency after 'heavy rain caused rye grass pollen to absorb moisture and burst, dispersing smaller particles that became trapped in people's lungs', according to official reports. Leading to the deaths of at least 4 people and the hospitalization of almost 10 thousand, medical experts there described the event as unprecedented:

When we've had people calling for ambulances — one call every four-and-a-half seconds at the peak — it was like having 150 bombs going off right across a particular part of metropolitan Melbourne," she said.

"That's something we've never planned for and we need to do that better."



And while most Americans and people across the entire world now know that we'll never get the truth about real issues from the rapidly dying mainstream media, as we read within the linked stories below and see with our own eyes and hear with our own ears in the first two videos, there is plenty of evidence to indicate that 'weather modification' is now taking place across Australia.

First, for those who still don't believe in weather warfare or weather modification, we suggest you read Steve Quayle's book "Weather Wars And Un-Natural Disasters" and read up on all of the weather modification patents long documented by Dane Wigington over at his Geoengineering Watch website.

As this Thursday story from The Watchers tells us, a spell of very unusual weather has been reported across Australia over the last few days with widespread snow falling in Tasmania on November 24th of 2016, only days before the arrival of their summer. We're also told that heavy rains, landslides and floods recently hit New Caledonia, an island just outside of Australia with huge rainfall amounts as seen in the image below right.




We also hear reports of the use of massive amounts of chemtrails over Melbourne prior to the 'thunderstorm asthma outbreak' in the 1st video below in which our videographer, from Australia himself, tells us he's been living in that area for over 50 years and has never experienced anything like what happened on Monday before. Telling us that the amount of chemtrails sprayed over the area had led him to go see the doctor prior to Monday's 'attack', it's clear that he isn't 'buying' the official explanation either.

With HAARP ring signatures seen over parts of Australia by those following weather patterns as detailed in much more depth in the 2nd video below, our videographer also gets into chemtrails and one US weatherman's explanation several years ago of US Air Force planes spreading 'chaff' into the sky in chemtrails as also heard in the 3rd video below.

Giving us absolute proof that weather modification has been going on for a very long time despite the fact that the Washington Post and all of the other rapidly dying mainstream news media outlets will call weather warfare and weather modification 'fake news', we see even more evidence that something very strange is going on in the Pacific.

As we learned from the recent SQnote seen below which linked to this story from Strange Sounds telling us Tokyo had seen their first November snow storm in more than 50 years, this indicates weather warfare manipulation was secondary to the earthquake generation. Is it just a coincidence that a hurricane and earthquake also hit just off of the Pacific coast of Central America as shared in this linked Yahoo news story and seen in the Drudge Report headlines also below?




Was what happened in Australia on Monday some kind of a 'dry run' for additional weather warfare attacks in the future, possibly upon much larger populations? Imagine such a situation happening here in America - suddenly and out of the blue, a massive thunderstorm hits with howling winds and heavy rainfall, stirring up all of the poisons....

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 12:28pm
https://youtu.be/7R3W5mfGtC8

look at this video presentation that will explain that the " pollen storm " is a cover up .

or will you ignore the evidence and bleat how you get no answers ..also tell me sad kangaroo

do you drink the tap water ?

im interested

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on May 19th, 2017 at 12:35pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 12:30pm:


Time for another look at the absurd "chemtrail planes exposed" photos



Not only is this another stolen pic, but the plane it shows is a DC-3.

Got to love the logic behind this one - "Hey - we're undertaking a massive, secret global chemical conspiracy, so lets pick the loudest, slowest plane we can find that can't even reach high altitudes - no-one will ever notice it!"


Then there's this one - which is plastered all over the chemtrail sites, showing an airliner on final approach streaming contrails through moist air.

But the chemtrailers think it's proof! Must be some awesome conspiracy when the guy you employed to fly your plane can't even remember to turn the chemtrail generators off.

Dammit Ron - you had ONE JOB. It's flaps 30, gear down, turn the sprayers off! Can't you even get THAT right?!


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 12:37pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:26pm:
I just posted this article with evidence and you simply reject it and continue your baseless attack


Bassless attack!?

The circle continues.  You demand I accept your evidence and when I read it and reply outlining the enormous gaping holes that at the least casts doubt in the claims you're making if not entirely debunks them and rather than you acknowledging that I've accepted your "evidence" let alone entertaining my questions in return, you go on to claim I've been attacking you, or you're some kind of victim then you again post pages and pages of the same thing over and over, demanding I again accept your "facts".

I've told you I wouldn't keep playing this game until you reply, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt and replied again, yet you continue to act this way. 

Your reaction to people questioning you is,







What right do you have to ask anyone else questions when you refuse to answer?

I will remind you again,


SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 9:48am:
But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen?


Full post here: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/490#490

And no, I won't be watching your latest video of nearly 3 hours long when you do not have the decency to answer my questions after I watched your hour+ long video and researched her claims, presented you with the findings and the questions and conflicting outcomes, which you keep ignoring and refusing to answer.

Why should I do anything more for you, at your request, when you are trying absolutely every trick in the book to avoid answering anything in return?

For every one post I remind you of the questions you're avoiding, there are 4 reposts from you demanding I answer to them? 

Really?

You're not fooling anyone here.  You're running from scrutiny and you cannot backup your claims.  You want to accuse me of active defeated but I think you're just projecting there champ.

Namaste.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 12:47pm

Stig wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:35pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 18th, 2017 at 12:30pm:


Time for another look at the absurd "chemtrail planes exposed" photos



Not only is this another stolen pic, but the plane it shows is a DC-3.

Got to love the logic behind this one - "Hey - we're undertaking a massive, secret global chemical conspiracy, so lets pick the loudest, slowest plane we can find that can't even reach high altitudes - no-one will ever notice it!"


Then there's this one - which is plastered all over the chemtrail sites, showing an airliner on final approach streaming contrails through moist air.

But the chemtrailers think it's proof! Must be some awesome conspiracy when the guy you employed to fly your plane can't even remember to turn the chemtrail generators off.

Dammit Ron - you had ONE JOB. It's flaps 30, gear down, turn the sprayers off! Can't you even get THAT right?!





you think that is contrails ?

wow !

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 12:51pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
you think that is contrails ?

wow !


You think it's chemtrails?

wow !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTeqBwf2Ic

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 12:53pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
you think that is contrails ?

wow !


You think it's chemtrails?

wow !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTeqBwf2Ic


wow infowars ????????????????

goodness gracious !!!



lets look at some scientific data proving chemtrails

this is very interesting science .


http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

When jet aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel to kerosene (diesel) fuel the aluminum content of the fuels skyrocketed.  See this chart Trace Element and Polycyclic Aromatic  Hydrocarbon Analyses of Jet Engine Fuels: Jet A, JP5, and JP8:



Aluminum Jet Fuel Additives

Spray Visualization of Alternative Aviation Turbine Fuel embedded with Metallic Nanoparticles
Energetic Nanoparticles as Fuel Additives for Enhanced Performance in Propulsion Systems
Reduction of emissions and fuel consumption in a compression ignition engine using nanoparticles
Nanoparticles increase biofuel performance
Why add nanoparticles? The idea, says lead author R. B. Anand, an associate professor of mechanical engineering at the National Institute of Technology in Tiruchirappalli, India, is that because of their high surface-to-volume ratio, the nanoparticles—which, in the study, had an average diameter of 51 billionths of a meter—have more reactive surfaces, allowing them to act as more efficient chemical catalysts, thus increasing fuel combustion. The presence of the particles also increases fuel–air mixing in the fuel, which leads to more complete burning.

In the study, Anand and co-author J. Sadhik Basha first used a mechanical agitator to create an emulsion consisting of jatropha biodiesel (a fuel derived from the crushed seeds of the jatropha plant), water, and a surfactant, then blended in different proportions of alumina nanoparticles. In addition to outperforming regular biofuel, the nanoparticle-spiked fuels produced significantly lower quantities of nitrogen oxide and carbon monoxide gases, and created less smoke.

The researchers are now testing other types of nanoparticles, including hollow carbon nanotubes, and investigating the effects of nano-additives to engine lubrication and cooling systems. One obstacle to the application of this kind of nanotechnology is the high cost of nanoparticle production, says Anand—who also cautions that nanoparticles “should be used judiciously,” because they tend to “entrain into human bodies.“
Read more at:

https://phys.org/news/2011-04-nanoparticles-biofuel.html

Atmospheric Sources of Barium

From the IPCC’s first assessment on Climate Change’s report we see confirmation that indeed barium and aluminum are in the exhaust plumes of jets.

http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/sres/aviation/index.php?idp=35

Aircraft jet engines also directly emit metal particles. Their sources include engine erosion and the combustion of fuel containing trace metal impurities or metal particles that enter the exhaust with the fuel (Chapter 7). Metal particles-comprising elements such as Al, Ti, Cr, Fe, Ni, and Ba-are estimated to be present at the parts per billion by volume (ppbv) level at nozzle exit planes (CIAP, 1975; Fordyce and Sheibley, 1975). The corresponding concentrations of 107 to 108 particles/kg fuel (assuming 1-mm radius; see below) are much smaller than for soot. Although metals have been found as residuals in cirrus and contrail ice particles (Chen et al., 1998; Petzold et al., 1998; Twohy and Gandrud, 1998), their number and associated mass are considered too small to affect the formation or properties of more abundant volatile and soot plume aerosol particles.

Aluminum, Titanium, Chromium, Iron, Nickel, and Barium are estimated to be in the parts per billion, meaning very small (trace) amounts.  Barium in jets comes from STADIS 450, an additive that has been in use since 1962 which contains trade secret chemicals and SARA 313 toxins.

Stadis 450 Barium Salt [MSDS trade secret] [MSDS full]

TRIMETHYLBENZENE (SARA 313)
10 – 30% TRADE SECRET POLYMER CONTAINING SULPHUR
5 – 10% TRADE SECRET POLYMER CONTAINING NITROGEN
NAPHTHALENE (SARA 313)

“R-11 Highly flammable. R-36 Irritating to eyes. R-67 Vapours may cause drowsiness and dizziness. R-51/53 Toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment. R-65 Harmful: may cause lung damage if swallowed. R-66 Repeated exposure may cause skin dryness or cracking. R-22 Harmful if swallowed. R-40 Limited evidence of a carcinogenic effect. R-50/53 Very toxic to aquatic organisms, may cause long-term adverse effects in the aquatic environment. Not classified. R-36/38 Irritating to eyes and skin. R-38 Irritating to skin. R-48/20 Harmful: danger of serious damage to health by prolonged exposure through inhalation. R-63 Possible risk of harm to the unborn child.”

here is some hard science lets see if these facts sink in .

namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 1:03pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:53pm:
lets look at some scientific data proving chemtrails


All I see is you not answering questions...

But if you want to talk science, are there are any tests done that have verified these findings?  On from those findings, how have you made the jump to chemtrails?  Can you explain the conclusion?

Do you even know what levels of these elements and compounds are harmful to humans?  Are we talking ppbv or ppmv?

Do you even understand the information you've been copying and pasting?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 1:13pm
please post some more infowars stories !!



when your done look at this ,


do you think this is normal/natural sad kangaroo ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPcdCHYQF8

Sticky String Rains out of the Sky & Falls on City!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjd1XsAPG1k

Chem Webs USA :Coming out of planes, why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfvh91hWklM

What caused Mysterious 'Milky Rain' on Cars in the Northwest USi

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 1:15pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:13pm:
do you think this is normal/natural sad kangaroo ?


I'm not answering any more of your bullshit until you stop running from my questions.

Keep posting if you like, I'll keep reminding you that for all your claims of others running away from the facts or the truth that it's you who is too afraid to answer the questions.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 1:16pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:15pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:13pm:
do you think this is normal/natural sad kangaroo ?


I'm not answering any more of your bullshit until you stop running from my questions.

Keep posting if you like, I'll keep reminding you that for all your claims of others running away from the facts or the truth that it's you who is too afraid to answer the questions.


not going to or cannot ...




why not post another infowars link ?





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on May 19th, 2017 at 1:26pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:53pm:
lets look at some scientific data proving chemtrails

this is very interesting science .


http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

When jet aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel to kerosene (diesel) fuel the aluminum content of the fuels skyrocketed. 



Protip - kerosene isn't diesel

You might want to tell your "scientist" that

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 1:31pm

Stig wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:26pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:53pm:
lets look at some scientific data proving chemtrails

this is very interesting science .


http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

When jet aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel to kerosene (diesel) fuel the aluminum content of the fuels skyrocketed. 



Protip - kerosene isn't diesel

You might want to tell your "scientist" that


here you go champ ...

https://www.bellperformance.com/blog/kerosene-in-diesel-engine

What Makes Kerosene What It Is


Quote:
What happens when you burn kerosene is derived from its properties.  Kerosene is a lighter diesel oil than #2, hence why it is designated as #1 diesel. The lighter weight means it contains slightly less energy – about 135,000 BTU per gallon vs. 139,000 BTU for a gallon of #2.

Kerosene doesn’t contain very high levels of aromatic compounds; they typically get concentrated in the #2 and heavier diesel fuel oils. This is part of the reason kerosene burns drier, with less lubricity, than #2 diesel.


its a pity your attempt at some semantical grammatical factiod makes you look quite foolish , and yet

fear not , it is quite an appropriate look for thee

so be at peace

namaste







Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 1:31pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:16pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:15pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:13pm:
do you think this is normal/natural sad kangaroo ?


I'm not answering any more of your bullshit until you stop running from my questions.

Keep posting if you like, I'll keep reminding you that for all your claims of others running away from the facts or the truth that it's you who is too afraid to answer the questions.


not going to or cannot ...


I should be asking you that question, but you wouldn't even answer that.  DAYS now Light, bloody DAYS you've been running from questions but demanding others answer yours...

You're not fooling anyone.

Just in case you missed the latest in many many attempts,

But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 1:40pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:16pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:15pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:13pm:
do you think this is normal/natural sad kangaroo ?


I'm not answering any more of your bullshit until you stop running from my questions.

Keep posting if you like, I'll keep reminding you that for all your claims of others running away from the facts or the truth that it's you who is too afraid to answer the questions.


not going to or cannot ...


I should be asking you that question, but you wouldn't even answer that.  DAYS now Light, bloody DAYS you've been running from questions but demanding others answer yours...

You're not fooling anyone.

Just in case you missed the latest in many many attempts,

But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen?


you seem upset as usual

and demand that someone explains you confusions to you

let me post another gif for you





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on May 19th, 2017 at 1:44pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
its a pity your attempt at some semantical grammatical factiod makes you look quite foolish , and yet

fear not , it is quite an appropriate look for thee


Foolish? You still think contrails are chemtrails and that the pilot just forgot to turn his super secret sprayers off.


But if you think I'm wrong, try fueling your jet airliner up with diesel and see what happens

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 1:48pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:31pm:

Stig wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:26pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:53pm:
lets look at some scientific data proving chemtrails

this is very interesting science .


http://www.rsmas.miami.edu/users/jprospero/Publications/Gatz-Prospero_Afr%20dust%20Illinois_AtmosEnviron96.pdf

When jet aircraft switched from gasoline based fuel to kerosene (diesel) fuel the aluminum content of the fuels skyrocketed. 



Protip - kerosene isn't diesel

You might want to tell your "scientist" that


here you go champ ...

https://www.bellperformance.com/blog/kerosene-in-diesel-engine

What Makes Kerosene What It Is


Quote:
What happens when you burn kerosene is derived from its properties.  Kerosene is a lighter diesel oil than #2, hence why it is designated as #1 diesel. The lighter weight means it contains slightly less energy – about 135,000 BTU per gallon vs. 139,000 BTU for a gallon of #2.

Kerosene doesn’t contain very high levels of aromatic compounds; they typically get concentrated in the #2 and heavier diesel fuel oils. This is part of the reason kerosene burns drier, with less lubricity, than #2 diesel.


its a pity your attempt at some semantical grammatical factiod makes you look quite foolish , and yet

fear not , it is quite an appropriate look for thee

so be at peace

namaste


So now you're changing the goal posts from specially fitout planes with all those gas tanks inside that you were showing us before since they were totally debunked and now you're saying it is fuel additives?

Make you mind up there champ...

And do you know by any chance the levels of Barium needed to be harmful?

The EPA have set the Maximum contaminant level goal (MCLG) for barium is 2 mg/L or 2 ppm. EPA has set this level of protection based on the best available science to prevent potential health problems. EPA has set an enforceable regulation for barium, called a maximum contaminant level (MCL), at 2 mg/L or 2 ppm.

The amount of barium found in soil ranges from about 15 to 3,500 ppm. Some foods, such as Brazil nuts, seaweed, fish, and certain plants, may contain high amounts of barium.

From your own numbers the emissions from the new types of fuels, at it's highest for the JP8 at 38 ppb, that's Parts Per BILLION, so 0.038ppm. 

Since you also should be aware that Barium does not bio-accumulate so these miniscule levels cannot even collect in the food chain let alone be directly harmful to people.

Also,

So if barium was the cause of the pollen storm deaths, where are the reports of all the other symptoms of barium exposure in the thousands of people who were impacted and for those who died there should have been obvious levels of barium given the much higher exposure they needed in order to cause death?


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 1:50pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:40pm:
you seem upset as usual

and demand that someone explains you confusions to you


So just to confirm, you want me to answer your questions, but still insist on only posting cry baby gifs rather than answering mine?

And you think you deserve any of my time or patients when you go on to ignore my answers anyway, because...?

Not fooling anyone.

So if barium was the cause of the pollen storm deaths, where are the reports of all the other symptoms of barium exposure in the thousands of people who were impacted and for those who died there should have been obvious levels of barium given the much higher exposure they needed in order to cause death?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 1:56pm

Stig wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:44pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
its a pity your attempt at some semantical grammatical factiod makes you look quite foolish , and yet

fear not , it is quite an appropriate look for thee


Foolish? You still think contrails are chemtrails and that the pilot just forgot to turn his super secret sprayers off.


But if you think I'm wrong, try fueling your jet airliner up with diesel and see what happens






no that was sad kangaroo and his infowars link ..


SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
you think that is contrails ?

wow !


You think it's chemtrails?

wow !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTeqBwf2Ic





:D :D :D :D



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 2:30pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:56pm:

Stig wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:44pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
its a pity your attempt at some semantical grammatical factiod makes you look quite foolish , and yet

fear not , it is quite an appropriate look for thee


Foolish? You still think contrails are chemtrails and that the pilot just forgot to turn his super secret sprayers off.


But if you think I'm wrong, try fueling your jet airliner up with diesel and see what happens






no that was sad kangaroo and his infowars link ..


SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
you think that is contrails ?

wow !


You think it's chemtrails?

wow !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTeqBwf2Ic





:D :D :D :D


That was certainly a mistake, I smacking hate infowars and didn't realise that twat a regular contributor.  I was looking for a video that explained what I understand about wake vortex turbulence and condensation since you're a simpleton and seem to require video rather than reading. 

I should have watched the entire thing, that's my bad.  But I won't take it down because I don't hide from my mistakes.

What I should have posted was this,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViKYFsN3p24

The phenomenon in the video is called a "wingtip vortex." When an airplane's wing cuts through the air, the wingtips and edges of the flaps leave rapidly rotating tubes of air in their wake. These tubes of rotation are the cause behind the extremely dangerous phenomenon called wake turbulence.

The air pressure inside of these vortices drops, thereby causing the air temperature inside the vortices to drop as well.

When the air is humid, such as on a rainy day (as seen in the video) or when flying through a deck of clouds, the air temperature can easily reach the dew point, and the moisture inside the vortices condenses into the rotating tube of air you see in the video.

You can also replicate the same thing at home with a bike pump and a plastic bottle,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msSVQ903T8k

But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen?


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 19th, 2017 at 2:43pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 2:30pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:56pm:

Stig wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:44pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 1:31pm:
its a pity your attempt at some semantical grammatical factiod makes you look quite foolish , and yet

fear not , it is quite an appropriate look for thee


Foolish? You still think contrails are chemtrails and that the pilot just forgot to turn his super secret sprayers off.


But if you think I'm wrong, try fueling your jet airliner up with diesel and see what happens






no that was sad kangaroo and his infowars link ..


SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
you think that is contrails ?

wow !


You think it's chemtrails?

wow !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTeqBwf2Ic





:D :D :D :D


That was certainly a mistake, I smacking hate infowars and didn't realise that twat a regular contributor.  I was looking for a video that explained what I understand about wake vortex turbulence and condensation since you're a simpleton and seem to require video rather than reading. 

I should have watched the entire thing, that's my bad.  But I won't take it down because I don't hide from my mistakes.


you cant take it down ,

it has been recorded , saved and so has your conspiracy theory





namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 19th, 2017 at 3:55pm

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 2:43pm:
you cant take it down ,

it has been recorded , saved and so has your conspiracy theor



namaste



Like I said, I have no intention of hiding from my mistake. I've owned up to it. You could learn a thing or two from that.

Care to address the other points and videos in my post, or will you just cherry pick and run & hide again?

Also:

But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Setanta on May 19th, 2017 at 6:08pm
OMG! FA-18 chemtrails!


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 20th, 2017 at 8:46am

Setanta wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
OMG! FA-18 chemtrails!



Indisputable...

Anyone who doesn't agree or dare question you is running from the truth, I demand they answer my questions that I think will make them look stupid for answering, while I refuse to answer theirs.  At the same time, them disagreeing with my conspiracy theory makes them a conspiracy theorist...!

Only I know the truth and that makes me special..!

/LightMode

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 20th, 2017 at 8:52am

Setanta wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 6:08pm:
OMG! FA-18 chemtrails!



awesome and very cool photo ..



f18_pic.jpg (119 KB | 43 )

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 20th, 2017 at 8:56am
lets look at an actual bill from congress that sad kangaroo says does not exist .

this places sad kangaroo at the alter of fake news clear cut and undisputable .

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-bill/2977/text

Text: H.R.2977 — 107th Congress (2001-2002)

There is one version of the bill.
Text available as:TXTPDF (PDF provides a complete and accurate display of this text.) Tip?
Shown Here:
Introduced in House (10/02/2001)

[Congressional Bills 107th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Printing Office]
[H.R. 2977 Introduced in House (IH)]







107th CONGRESS
  1st Session
                                H. R. 2977

To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of
all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space
by the United States, and to require the President to take action to
    adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.


_______________________________________________________________________


                    IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

                            October 2, 2001

Mr. Kucinich introduced the following bill; which was referred to the
   Committee on Science, and in addition to the Committees on Armed
Services, and International Relations, for a period to be subsequently
   determined by the Speaker, in each case for consideration of such
provisions as fall within the jurisdiction of the committee concerned

_______________________________________________________________________

                                 A BILL



To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of
all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space
by the United States, and to require the President to take action to
    adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

    In this Act:
            (1) The term ``space'' means all space extending upward
        from an altitude greater than 60 kilometers above the surface
        of the earth and any celestial body in such space.
            (2)(A) The terms ``weapon'' and ``weapons system'' mean a
        device capable of any of the following:
                    (i) Damaging or destroying an object (whether in
                outer space, in the atmosphere, or on earth) by--
                            (I) firing one or more projectiles to
                        collide with that object;
                            (II) detonating one or more explosive
                        devices in close proximity to that object;
                            (III) directing a source of energy
                        (including molecular or atomic energy,
                        subatomic particle beams, electromagnetic
                        radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency
                        (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy
                        radiation) against that object; or
                            (IV) any other unacknowledged or as yet
                        undeveloped means.
                    (ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or
                destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily
                health, mental health, or physical and economic well-
                being of a person)--
                            (I) through the use of any of the means
                        described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);
                            (II) through the use of land-based, sea-
                        based, or space-based systems using radiation,
                        electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or
                        other energies directed at individual persons
                        or targeted populations for the purpose of
                        information war, mood management, or mind
                        control of such persons or populations; or
                            (III) by expelling chemical or biological
                        agents in the vicinity of a person.
            (B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
                    (i) electronic, psychotronic, or information
                weapons;
                    (ii) chemtrails;

                    (iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons
                systems;
                    (iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic
                weapons;
                    (v) laser weapons systems;
                    (vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or
                extraterrestrial weapons; and
                    (vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate,
                or tectonic weapons.
            (C) The term ``exotic weapons systems'' includes weapons
        designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the
        ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and
        tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or
        destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in
        space.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 20th, 2017 at 9:11am

it_is_the_light wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 8:56am:
lets look at an actual bill from congress that sad kangaroo says does not exist .

this places sad kangaroo at the alter of fake news clear cut and undisputable .


You're just blatantly making stuff up, again!  I've said nothing of the sort. 

I welcome you quoting that claim that apparently I made, but since I know for a fact you're lying, again, just like the fact you have zero evidence for your claim that the Melbourne Pollen Storm was due to chemtrailing, I have to assume you will ignore this and just keep spamming again too?

You're lying, again, yet you accuse me of fake news.  Well done.  You have zero integrity.

Also:

But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen or why nobody shows any test results that would indicate dangerous level of barium in their system?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 20th, 2017 at 9:14am

it_is_the_light wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 8:56am:
Text: H.R.2977 — 107th Congress (2001-2002)

There is one version of the bill.
Text available as:TXTPDF (PDF provides a complete and accurate display of this text.) Tip?
Shown Here:
Introduced in House (10/02/2001)

[Congressional Bills 107th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Printing Office]
[H.R. 2977 Introduced in House (IH)]


You do know who wrote that Bill right?  Do you have any understanding as to what it actually means or it's intentions?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 20th, 2017 at 9:19am

SadKangaroo wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 9:11am:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 8:56am:
lets look at an actual bill from congress that sad kangaroo says does not exist .

this places sad kangaroo at the alter of fake news clear cut and undisputable .


You're just blatantly making stuff up, again!  I've said nothing of the sort. 

I welcome you quoting that claim that apparently I made, but since I know for a fact you're lying, again,


massive bite ! ..hook line and sinker ..



you had better bring your " A " game here old son , if you have one ,

or run away now to save yourself further embarrassment , yet either way be at peace

sad kangaroo caught lying again ho hum ..



SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:02pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 11:52am:

Quote:
I've never entered into a debate about the validity of chemtrails with you.


so you admit chemtrails are real .. ?


Far from it, the idea is so laughably absurd and would require a global conspiracy kept secret by 100,000's of people, but I'm not even entering that part of the debate.  The size of people involved in faking the moon landing was one thing, but the fact you think there is a secret Government Controlled underbelly in our general aviation system is frankly hilarious, but I'm not talking about chemtrails in general.

I've only ever been talking to you about your claim that chemtrails were the cause of the Melbourne Pollen Storm casualties and deaths, more specifically cloud seeding with barium.

Now please, rather than avoiding my questions, I invite you one more time to actually answer them.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/492#492

Thanks in advance.

Namaste.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 20th, 2017 at 9:31am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AykLfHtM_3M&feature=youtu.be

SWEDISH POLITICIAN SPEAKS ON CHEMTRAILS.

Published on Sep 24, 2012
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G.S.O.C. GO SWEDEN ON CHEMTRAILS

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We have been complaining for years that no politicians address this so now is the chance to show how much we really care about our children and our environment, for real. Click like and subscribe and share the group and related videos also.

This situation could lead to heights even we can't imagine.
If the Swedish mainstream media are forced to address this then the Swedish public, (who are an extremely conscious environmentalist people), realise what is happening who knows where this might lead. It could snowball to a critical mass. What we've been hoping for for many years.

We've always known that if enough people knew about Chemtrails and H.A.A.R.P. then it could be stopped.

Now is your chance. Take it.

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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 20th, 2017 at 9:33am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhgjUtNTYQ8

UN Debate on Chemtrails, Weather Modification, SRM

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 20th, 2017 at 9:37am

it_is_the_light wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 9:19am:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 9:11am:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 8:56am:
lets look at an actual bill from congress that sad kangaroo says does not exist .

this places sad kangaroo at the alter of fake news clear cut and undisputable .


You're just blatantly making stuff up, again!  I've said nothing of the sort. 

I welcome you quoting that claim that apparently I made, but since I know for a fact you're lying, again,


massive bite ! ..hook line and sinker ..

SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:02pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 11:52am:

Quote:
I've never entered into a debate about the validity of chemtrails with you.


so you admit chemtrails are real .. ?


Far from it, the idea is so laughably absurd and would require a global conspiracy kept secret by 100,000's of people, but I'm not even entering that part of the debate.  The size of people involved in faking the moon landing was one thing, but the fact you think there is a secret Government Controlled underbelly in our general aviation system is frankly hilarious, but I'm not talking about chemtrails in general.

I've only ever been talking to you about your claim that chemtrails were the cause of the Melbourne Pollen Storm casualties and deaths, more specifically cloud seeding with barium.

Now please, rather than avoiding my questions, I invite you one more time to actually answer them.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/492#492

Thanks in advance.

Namaste.


And?

Like I said, I've never mentioned the Bill you're talking about.  You said I claimed it never existed, I've done no such thing.

Nice try but if you want to be all proud with your mic drop moment, at least make sure you've actually got one...

How embarrassing for you.

More lies from you Light.  Pathetic.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 20th, 2017 at 9:55am
To that I will say that it seems like, regarding the Bill you posted, you haven't actually read it have you?

If you'd bother to read the bill, not just highlight one word out of context, do your homework as to the author of the Bill and in context it's intention and you'll find that it is no silver bullet that proves chemtrailing. 

Again, you cannot tell reality from bullshit, or you simply don't want to.

The Bill exists and I've never claimed otherwise, like I said earlier which makes you a proven liar, again.

But regardless of that the Bill and mention of that one word doesn't mean what you think it does.  The fact you're so desperate to believe means you're not employing even the most basic of scrutiny or fact checking to anything that you think supports your belief. 

You know how elses does that in their rush to be first to report?  That's right, the Main Stream Media, the people you say spread Fake News.  That makes you no better than them...

You're acting like a fool, again.  I'm almost embarrassed for you but then I remember you have no integrity and seem totally incapable but worse, unwilling to live in reality. 

Your life seems so without meaning that you need so desperately to feel special because you have gleaned some hidden truth into chemtrailing or the myriad of other conspiracy theories you just can't help but to believe.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, but don't expect anyone to just believe you or not fact check your bullshit and lies.

While I have never commented on that Bill (therefore you are lying, again) I stand by my original claim that your idea of chemtrailing is nothing but the deranged ramblings of a fool who cannot tell fact from bullshit.

You think in this day and age the 100,000's of people who would be involved in your global conspiracy would all be keeping this secret?

Please...  Movie studios can't even keep their movies from leaking before release costing them millions.  Car companies can't keep their concept cars hidden before their launch and Governments leak all the time.

Yet still no evidence for chemtrails.  The best we have is you being duped by people posting airborne firefighting equipment and telling you it's hidden camera work of chemtrail delivery systems or your utter failure to comprehend pressure differential wingtip vortices that you can replicate at home yourself,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msSVQ903T8k

I'll even buy and send you the adapter for the plastic bottle so you can do the experiment yourself.  Give me a PO Box or something and I'll have it delivered to you.

Because you can't a don't want to understand something, you have chosen to fill in the gaps with a fantastical conspiracy theory.  You're not alone in that, which only reinforces it to you, but you're still on the wrong side of reality.

On the rare times you will address those who fact check you rather than learn from it, you just change the definition from deliberate seeding from commercial planes to byproducts of rocket launches...  But that's rare as mostly you just repost the same nonsense over and over to bury those who have bested you with the facts and try silly gotchas rather than facts or evidence to prove your case.

You're not fooling anyone other than yourself.

Namaste.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 20th, 2017 at 10:27am

SadKangaroo wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 9:55am:
To that I will say that it seems like, regarding the Bill you posted, you haven't actually read it have you?

If you'd bother to read the bill, not just highlight one word out of context, do your homework as to the author of the Bill and in context it's intention and you'll find that it is no silver bullet that proves chemtrailing. 

Again, you cannot tell reality from bullshit, or you simply don't want to.

The Bill exists and I've never claimed otherwise, like I said earlier which makes you a proven liar, again.



SadKangaroo wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 9:11am:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 8:56am:
lets look at an actual bill from congress that sad kangaroo says does not exist .

this places sad kangaroo at the alter of fake news clear cut and undisputable .


You're just blatantly making stuff up, again!  I've said nothing of the sort. 

I welcome you quoting that claim that apparently I made, but since I know for a fact you're lying, again,


massive bite ! ..hook line and sinker ..



you had better bring your " A " game here old son , if you have one ,

or run away now to save yourself further embarrassment , yet either way be at peace

sad kangaroo caught lying again ho hum .. VVV


SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:02pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 11:52am:

Quote:
I've never entered into a debate about the validity of chemtrails with you.


so you admit chemtrails are real .. ?


Far from it, the idea is so laughably absurd and would require a global conspiracy kept secret by 100,000's of people, but I'm not even entering that part of the debate.The size of people involved in faking the moon landing was one thing, but the fact you think there is a secret Government Controlled underbelly in our general aviation system is frankly hilarious, but I'm not talking about chemtrails in general.

I've only ever been talking to you about your claim that chemtrails were the cause of the Melbourne Pollen Storm casualties and deaths, more specifically cloud seeding with barium.

Now please, rather than avoiding my questions, I invite you one more time to actually answer them.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/492#492

Thanks in advance.

Namaste.




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on May 20th, 2017 at 11:16am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q74Ej1uEl6Q

You claimed,


it_is_the_light wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 8:56am:
lets look at an actual bill from congress that sad kangaroo says does not exist


My response,


SadKangaroo wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 9:11am:
You're just blatantly making stuff up, again!  I've said nothing of the sort. 

I welcome you quoting that claim that apparently I made, but since I know for a fact you're lying, again, just like the fact you have zero evidence for your claim that the Melbourne Pollen Storm was due to chemtrailing, I have to assume you will ignore this and just keep spamming again too?


Then you think you have a gotcha moment by quoting,


SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:02pm:
Far from it, the idea is so laughably absurd and would require a global conspiracy kept secret by 100,000's of people, but I'm not even entering that part of the debate.  The size of people involved in faking the moon landing was one thing, but the fact you think there is a secret Government Controlled underbelly in our general aviation system is frankly hilarious, but I'm not talking about chemtrails in general.

I've only ever been talking to you about your claim that chemtrails were the cause of the Melbourne Pollen Storm casualties and deaths, more specifically cloud seeding with barium.

Now please, rather than avoiding my questions, I invite you one more time to actually answer them.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1394361776/492#492

Thanks in advance.

Namaste.


I don't see a quote of me claiming the Bill does not exist.  Do you?  Have you really just been seeing what you want to see this whole time?  That would explain so much.

If you want to pretend it was a trap all along and it was fallen for hook line and sinker, at least make sure the person you've retrospectively been trying to catch ACTUALLY SPRUNG THE TRAP!!

Or can you not tell the difference between the so far unproved concept of a global conspiracy to enact and keep secret chemtrails versus a Congressional Bill?

Can you honestly not tell the difference?

To borrow one of your own memes,



But hey, if you're so fragile that you need the win, go for it.  What's another hollow victory for you to keep you happy in your fantasy land...

However, let us not forget why you're trying these distractions.  As you quoted, you made a claim that the Melbourne Pollen Storm and the casualties were the result of chemtrailing and you claimed you had shown proof.

I took the time to read and watch what you had provided and other than it not mentioning Pollen Storms, let alone the Melbourne one, it made huge mistakes (also by her own admission) due to the poster, "Truth_Seeker" and her almost complete scientific illiteracy being masked by her abundance of confirmation bias.  I not only presented you with that but some facts to clear up the QUESTIONs and MAYBEs she proposed that you've taken on as FACT.

Upon providing you with this information 5 days ago and nearly 10 pages ago (all those pages filled with you running from and trying to bury those posts), plus answering your follow up questions such as:


Quote:
please show where pollen has killed so many people ..


Which I had answered here, but despite my attempt to have a back and forth with you, all you've done is run from the scrutiny and the questions I've asked in return by posting cry baby gifs, more lies, fake news, spamming your original posts which had already been answered while again demanding answer and foolishly failing at gotchas and posting firefighting equipment and mistaking it for proof of chemtrailing. 

You've been running from questions this entire time and trying to hide them.  You can't run from it, you'll try, but they'll always be there waiting and until you address them you won't get anyone answering anything else from you.

They'll point out how laughably wrong you are I'm sure, much to my entertainment, but that's all you'll get on here princess.

But hey, if you need to think your spam, your lies, your hiding from questions while demanding people answer yours and most of all your embarrassing stupidity in failed 'gotachas', if you think all of that has bested anyone then you're beyond help.  Enjoy your own disconnected reality.

Namaste.

But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen or why nobody shows any test results that would indicate dangerous level of barium in their system?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 20th, 2017 at 5:53pm

SadKangaroo wrote on May 16th, 2017 at 11:44am:

Quote:
please show where pollen has killed so many people ..

1 December 2016: Kuwait

'Thunderstorm asthma' 5 people die in Kuwait following storm

"Hospitals received 844 emergency cases in two days, five of them died, three in Mumbarak Hospital and two in the Amiri Hospital," Khaled Al-Sahlawi, health ministry undersecretary, said in the report. "Twenty-six cases were admitted to intensive care units and 45 to rooms. The rest received treatments."

The deaths in Kuwait came only about a week after a similar incident happened in Melbourne, Australia. According to CNN, a sudden drop in temperature accompanied by severe thunderstorms had triggered mass pollen allergy asthma attacks.

When rain falls, pollen grains absorb moisture and erupt, spreading small allergenic particles that could irritate the lungs when inhaled. These particles could irritate and inflame bronchial tubes, which are filled with mucus and cause difficulty of breathing.

After the incident, speculations have risen that the weather phenomenon is caused by a "biological warfare" agent being tested on humans, The Daily Sheeple reports. In Kuwait, rumors on social media about a pandemic virus outbreak of H1N1 have circulated. But medical experts dismissed these rumors and blame bad weather conditions for the respiratory problems in patients, Kuwait Times reports.


There are other historical examples of other significant events if you care to look them up,
  • 6 July 1983–7 July 1983: Birmingham, England
  • 8 November 1987: Melbourne, Australia
  • 29 November 1989–30 November 1989: Melbourne, Australia
  • 24 July 1994–25 July 1994: London, England
  • 30 October 1997: Wagga Wagga, Australia
  • 4 June 2004: Naples, Italy
  • 25 November 2010: Melbourne, Australia
  • 2 November 2013: Ahvaz, Iran


this is MSM fake news propaganda ..

do you think MSM will admit its chemtrails in the sky filled with barium strontium and aluminium ?

they touch on the notion then tell you not to believe it and thats it ?

some people including yourself have even denied the existence of chemtrails !

the connection is made here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysM4r5FUKF8&feature=youtu.be


Quote:
How we can know that Barium is being used:
-As chem-trails disperse, Barium filters down and people have been collecting the substance in their own backyards.
-It is not naturally occurring and must be manufactured, due to its highly reactive state.
-Barium is known to create the apple-green color in fireworks, and may well be the causation of green-colored fireballs.
-It attacks the nervous system, and is toxic. It does not bio-accumulate and can be relieved as it disperses and goes away, taking with it any strange symptoms. There are many other health problems (lungs, etc.).
-It is known to bleach, and could be the possible cause of faded signs and other structures.
-It facilitates the release of electrons from particles, which could be a cause of higher levels of radiation in our atmosphere.


and has been discovered and you think its a debate ..

you think by propping up the governmental narrative you can seem powerful repeating fake news from known liars and obfuscators and think you are correct ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBodVFm3EoM

Mainstream Media Fake News Fails Compilation

you cannot help yourself repeating fake news .. and yet ,

I have evidence that is to the contrary ,and have observed your willingness and swiftness to drop to your knees and start blowing the MSM horn of illogicality and mass mind control , in which

you willingly participate ..and attack all others with a critical mind and thirst for research that bring forth any evidence unto the contrary ..

this is classic belief system fear indoctrination in which

you feel threatened that your interpretation of reality ( the interpretation spoon fed unto you by your puppeteers and controllers at MSM that tell you how to think act and conduct yourself and also what to believe )

is under attack and your self sense of sanity is under threat that this other concept is directly confronting you and whom you think you are

so you go on the attack and let loose every feeble limp wristed sledge and retort to douse down this other concept of reality

because you have been programmed to ridicule and attack anyone whom thinks outside of your programmed belief system ..

this has no effect unto the facts presented or the manner in which I continue to dispensate the evidence that has been brought forth ..

you will continue to be called out for your  sycophanaticalistic tendencies pertaining to the speed in which you drop to the alter of MSM fake news ..

now look here and explain all this ... swamp gas ?

more pollen ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPcdCHYQF8

Sticky String Rains out of the Sky & Falls on City!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qjd1XsAPG1k

Chem Webs USA :Coming out of planes, why?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mfvh91hWklM

What caused Mysterious 'Milky Rain' on Cars in the Northwest US


the facts add up to something more sinister one may suggest

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 21st, 2017 at 10:38pm
explain the anomaly ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQW_WTVgoj4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mLzgTaR7rghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8y_7Q3Vvc

Chemtrail Timelapse

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 22nd, 2017 at 8:39am
chemtrail spraying caught on camera ..

and much more convincing evidence , not MSM regurgitation without substance ,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CGN4eN0XRM

ALERT: BREAKING NEWS CHEMTRAILS GEOENGINEERING VACCINES WORLD HEADLINES

look up and live , and eyes to the skies .

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on May 24th, 2017 at 10:17am

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 1st, 2017 at 8:45am
Well, given the latest development,


it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 7:48am:
for those that do not know

Infowars is a legitimate news agency , so much so

it has white house approval .. maybe you listen to to much fake MSNBC news ?

https://www.infowars.com/its-official-infowars-receives-white-house-press-credentials/

IT’S OFFICIAL! INFOWARS RECEIVES WHITE HOUSE PRESS CREDENTIALS


It seems that Chemtrails have been debunked by Light's new favourite legitimate news outlet,


SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:51pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:47pm:
you think that is contrails ?

wow !


You think it's chemtrails?

wow !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTeqBwf2Ic


Case closed, chemtrails are not real, the thread can also be closed I guess.  No need to continue.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:56am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiY4nVEhnm4

CIA CONFIRMS CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL AND ARE DEPLOYED RIGHT NOW!

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:30am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:56am:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiY4nVEhnm4

CIA CONFIRMS CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL AND ARE DEPLOYED RIGHT NOW!


In an effort to "up my game" I've formatted this post to be more like Light's only with facts.

Another video showing airborne firefighting equipment as proof of chemtrailing and commenting on scientific studies without providing any further information about them or to them, let alone any peer reviewed findings also known as "Not proving their claims", aka more FAKE NEWS by it_is_the_light.

There is a clear anti-climate change message being pushed by the YouTuber, the same person who claims that NASA are covering up aliens on the Moon.  He wants the viewer to follow the money trail back to Al Gore, I suggest the YouTuber's  motivation for posting such lies and duping stupid people be investigated instead.

On top of that they take an out of context comment from CIA director John O. Brennan at the Council on Foreign Relations mentioned geoengineering, specifically stratospheric aerosol injection.

Claim: CIA director John O. Brennan admits geoengineering in the form of stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI) is taking place, ie "chemtrails".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfH5_BiaP8Y

Nowhere in his speech is there an "admission" that a SAI program is already taking place. The part where Brennan mentions geoengineering is just one example out of several, not-often-mentioned issues that CIA monitors for potential (future) elements of instability in the world. A SAI program, if ever implemented, could generate conflicts and security threats if misused. It's CIA's job to consider all types of concepts for potential future problems and threats, including science oriented concepts.

Reading the whole transcript, and the relevant parts, it becomes clear that when Brennan brings up geoengineering, he is talking about future concepts, that may never be put into practice:

This is the context of the speech:


Quote:
I’ll start with the overarching challenge of instability, which continues to grip large sections of the globe.

Global instability is one of the defining issues of our time, and its implications are hard to overstate. As instability spreads, extremists and terrorists are finding sanctuary in ungoverned spaces. Energy supplies are being disrupted. Political reform is suffering as too many governments opt for authoritarian measures at the expense of democratic principles and respect for human rights.

Here is the part where SAI is mentioned. Emphasis (highlight) has been added where there are clear indications how Brennan is talking about something that would be, could be a potential future thing:


Quote:
Another example is the array of technologies—often referred to collectively as geoengineering—that potentially couldhelp reverse the warming effects of global climate change.
[...]
An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels.
[...]
As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community. On the technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects, such as ocean acidification, because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere.

On the geopolitical side, the technology’s potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions at the expense of others could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might seize on SAI’s benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions. And, as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI.

It is quite clear that John O. Brennan does not talk about something that is already implemented. He talks about merely suggested technology that might be useful, but bot implemented and may never be, in the challenge against abrupt anthropogenic global warming.
Brennan also raised the issues with the proposed technology from a security perspective, which is what the CIA deals with every day.

This is nothing new. The goals and the problems of the proposed SAI technology is something that has been openly stated and discussed, both science and political-wise for more than a decade now. Brennan does not provide any new information on the subject.

"CIA CONFIRMS CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL AND ARE DEPLOYED RIGHT NOW!"? Swing and a miss, again.

More lies and FAKE NEWS by it_is_the_light.

Namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:39am
Also light, would you care to answer the question I've had to ask over and over in relation to your claims that the Melbourne Pollen storm was the result of barium exposure from secret Chemtrailing:

But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen or why nobody shows any test results that would indicate dangerous level of barium in their system?[/quote]

Or perhaps now as you claim that Inforwars is a legitimate news source that Chemtrailing has been thoroughly debunked by them will you accept that as the truth and be done with this?


it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 7:48am:
for those that do not know

Infowars is a legitimate news agency , so much so

it has white house approval .. maybe you listen to to much fake MSNBC news ?

https://www.infowars.com/its-official-infowars-receives-white-house-press-credentials/

IT’S OFFICIAL! INFOWARS RECEIVES WHITE HOUSE PRESS CREDENTIALS



SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:51pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTeqBwf2Ic

You can even replicate it yourself at home,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msSVQ903T8k

I'll even buy and send you the adapter for the plastic bottle so you can do the experiment yourself.  Give me a PO Box or something and I'll have it delivered to you.

Namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:51am
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1491791473/238#238


SadKangaroo wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
poor sad sack , how sad for you that you are upset ..

that's ok because I forgive you

so be at peace

namaste


Go eat a dick.


many blessings

I choose not to respond to abusive posters

I do not report abuse I simply choose not to respond in substance

the factual evidence of chemtrails will continue to be posted without permission or approval

some think its a debate here ? the evidence is gathered and delivered

you seem upset , so whats next , more abuse ?

we continue and ignore abusers here as we research facts and new discoveries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjzkEiO6AAc

Chemtrails Analysis: New Discoveries 1/2

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:58am
here is a Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock

this is a professional doctor and surgeon that has information on these toxic chemtrails

click on the video it still works at the time of this posting *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3lW-TGGlk0

What Chemtrails Are Doing To Your Brain - Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock Reveals Shocking Facts.

Published on Apr 7, 2013
Linderman Unleashed Radio Show March 28th 2013 Broadcast. Curt Linderman speaks with Dr. Blaylock about the devastating health effects of the chemtrails and geoengineering programs which have been implemented in secret without public consent.

Chemtrails, Nanoaluminum and Neurodegenerative and Neurodevelopmental Effects
By Russell L. Blaylock, M.D.

The Internet is littered with stories of "chemtrails" and geoengineering to combat "global warming" and until recently I took these stories with a grain of salt. One of the main reasons for my skepticism was that I rarely saw what they were describing in the skies. But over the past several years I have notice a great number of these trails and I have to admit they are not like the contrails I grew up seeing in the skies. They are extensive, quite broad, are laid in a definite pattern and slowly evolve into artificial clouds. Of particular concern is that there are now so many ­dozens every day are littering the skies.

My major concern is that there is evidence that they are spraying tons of nanosized aluminum compounds. It has been demonstrated in the scientific and medical literature that nanosized particles are infinitely more reactive and induce intense inflammation in a number of tissues. Of special concern is the effect of these nanoparticles on the brain and spinal cord, as a growing list of neurodegenerative diseases, including Alzheimer's dementia, Parkinson's disease and Lou Gehrig's disease (ALS) are strongly related to exposure to environmental aluminum.
Nanoparticles of aluminum are not only infinitely more inflammatory, they also easily penetrate the brain by a number of routes, including the blood and olfactory nerves (the smell nerves in the nose). Studies have shown that these particles pass along the olfactory neural tracts, which connect directly to the area of the brain that is not only most effected by Alzheimer's disease, but also the earliest affected in the course of the disease. It also has the highest level of brain aluminum in Alzheimer's cases.

The intranasal route of exposure makes spraying of massive amounts of nanoaluminum into the skies especially hazardous, as it will be inhaled by people of all ages, including babies and small children for many hours. We know that older people have the greatest reaction to this airborne aluminum. Because of the nanosizing of the aluminum particles being used, home filtering system will not remove the aluminum, thus prolonging exposure, even indoors.
In addition to inhaling nanoaluminum, such spraying will saturate the ground, water and vegetation with high levels of aluminum. Normally, aluminum is poorly absorbed from the GI tract, but nanoaluminum is absorbed in much higher amounts. This absorbed aluminum has been shown to be distributed to a number of organs and tissues including the brain and spinal cord. Inhaling this environmentally suspended nanoaluminum will also produce tremendous inflammatory reaction within the lungs, which will pose a significant hazard to children and adults with asthma and pulmonary diseases.

I pray that the pilots who are spraying this dangerous substance fully understand that they are destroying the life and health of their families as well. This is also true of our political officials. Once the soil, plants and water sources are heavily contaminated there will be no way to reverse the damage that has been done.
Steps need to be taken now to prevent an impending health disaster of enormous proportions if this project is not stopped immediately. Otherwise we will see an explosive increase in neurodegenerative diseases occurring in adults and the elderly in unprecedented rates as well as neurodevelopmental disorders in our children. We are already seeing a dramatic increase in these neurological disorders and it is occurring in younger people than ever before.
Category
News & Politics

look at science and look at facts

or bury your head in the sand yet either way

be at peace

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:58am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:51am:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
poor sad sack , how sad for you that you are upset ..

that's ok because I forgive you

so be at peace

namaste


Go eat a dick.


many blessings

I choose not to respond to abusive posters


Let's put things into context for a moment.  You had up until that point, for weeks, been a disrespectful so and so in your efforts to escape scrutiny after demanding your evidence be accepted and evaluated which left many questions that you were running from.

Cry baby post after cry baby post, meme and meme and meme, reposting and spamming to bury the questions put to you and I had admitedly snapped and given up.

I've put up with your disrespect for months and you shut down like a little cry baby when it's reciprocated?

Stop being so evasive and face the scrutiny and accountability for your lies and FAKE NEWS.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:02am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:58am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:51am:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
poor sad sack , how sad for you that you are upset ..

that's ok because I forgive you

so be at peace

namaste


Go eat a dick.


many blessings

I choose not to respond to abusive posters


Let's put things into context for a moment.  You had up until that point, for weeks, been a disrespectful so and so in your efforts to escape scrutiny after demanding your evidence be accepted and evaluated which left many questions that you were running from.

Cry baby post after cry baby post, meme and meme and meme, reposting and spamming to bury the questions put to you and I had admitedly snapped and given up.

I've put up with your disrespect for months and you shut down like a little cry baby when it's reciprocated?

Stop being so evasive and face the scrutiny and accountability for your lies and FAKE NEWS.







Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:06am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:58am:
here is a Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock

Another well respected and legitimate source, oh wait:

Russell L Blaylock (born 1945) is an alternative health promoting physician who lives in Jackson, Miss. Blaylock has appeared all over the food-related advocacy space and has been around the voodoo health claims circuit.

Among his earlier campaigns Blaylock opposed food additives like aspartame and MSG. He had a wagon-full of junk science claims in his book regarding ‘excitotoxins’–a term he helped coin that is found in several homeopathic and alternative health snake oil sales sites. [1] Blaylock also promotes chemtrail conspiracies alleging cancer-causing nanoparticles as being purposefully released into the atmosphere in a government-corporate scheme.[2] Skeptic’s Dictionary and QuackWatch call him an anti-vaxxer [3] while selling his own line of “Brain Repair Formula” supplements. He has been called “quack of the day” by The Vaccine Conspiracy Theorist.[4]

To herbal medicine and alternative treatment groups, he sells alternative treatments for neurological disorders that he claims stem from aspartame, MSG and other food additives.


Another charlatan preying on the ignorant to peddle his own wares.

Got you hook line and sinker, although that isn't hard.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:07am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:06am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:58am:
here is a Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock

Another well respected and legitimate source, oh wait:

Russell L Blaylock (born 1945) is an alternative health promoting physician who lives in Jackson, Miss. Blaylock has appeared all over the food-related advocacy space and has been around the voodoo health claims circuit.

Among his earlier campaigns Blaylock opposed food additives like aspartame and MSG. He had a wagon-full of junk science claims in his book regarding ‘excitotoxins’–a term he helped coin that is found in several homeopathic and alternative health snake oil sales sites. [1] Blaylock also promotes chemtrail conspiracies alleging cancer-causing nanoparticles as being purposefully released into the atmosphere in a government-corporate scheme.[2] Skeptic’s Dictionary and QuackWatch call him an anti-vaxxer [3] while selling his own line of “Brain Repair Formula” supplements. He has been called “quack of the day” by The Vaccine Conspiracy Theorist.[4]

To herbal medicine and alternative treatment groups, he sells alternative treatments for neurological disorders that he claims stem from aspartame, MSG and other food additives.


Another charlatan preying on the ignorant to peddle his own wares.

Got you hook line and sinker, although that isn't hard.


it is notable you did'nt supply your source * .

because your source is fake news big pharma propaganda

you are a simple repeater of fake news and big pharma

this is exposed and forgiven

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:09am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:02am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:58am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:51am:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
poor sad sack , how sad for you that you are upset ..

that's ok because I forgive you

so be at peace

namaste


Go eat a dick.


many blessings

I choose not to respond to abusive posters


Let's put things into context for a moment.  You had up until that point, for weeks, been a disrespectful so and so in your efforts to escape scrutiny after demanding your evidence be accepted and evaluated which left many questions that you were running from.

Cry baby post after cry baby post, meme and meme and meme, reposting and spamming to bury the questions put to you and I had admitedly snapped and given up.

I've put up with your disrespect for months and you shut down like a little cry baby when it's reciprocated?

Stop being so evasive and face the scrutiny and accountability for your lies and FAKE NEWS.








Yeah it pains me to admit, but your plan worked.  You pushed me beyond my breaking point in a calculated attempt to gain another out to run and hide from scrutiny and accountability for your LIES AND FAKE NEWS. 

And it's working.  I fell for it and you can play the victim. You have the choice to continue to cower in the shadows or step out in the light and face the criticism of your claims.

The choice is yours, but don't blame anyone else for the choice you make.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:11am
here are the facts ,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Blaylock

Russell Blaylock

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Russell L. Blaylock
Nationality      American
Education      Doctor of Medicine, fellowship in neurology
Alma mater      LSU School of Medicine, Medical University of South Carolina
Occupation      Neurosurgeon (retired), writer, lecturer
Russell L. Blaylock is an author and a retired U.S. neurosurgeon. Blaylock introduced a new treatment for a subset of brain tumors, as well as improving certain operations treating water on the brain.

Blaylock was a clinical assistant professor of neurosurgery at the University of Mississippi Medical Center and is currently a visiting professor in the biology department at Belhaven College.[1] He is the author of a number of books and papers, including Excitotoxins: The Taste That Kills (1994), Health and Nutrition Secrets That Can Save Your Life (2002), and Natural Strategies for Cancer Patients (2003), and writes a monthly newsletter, the Blaylock Wellness Report.

Blaylock has endorsed views inconsistent with the scientific consensus, including that food additives such as aspartame and monosodium glutamate (MSG) are excitotoxic in normal doses and that the H1N1 influenza (swine flu) vaccine carries more risk than swine flu itself.[2][3][4]

Education and career[edit]
Blaylock completed his general surgical internship and neurosurgical residency at the Medical University of South Carolina in Charleston, SC.[5] He was licensed to practice Neurological Surgery in North Carolina between May 6, 1977 and December 15, 2006.[6] Along with Ludwig G. Kempe, Blaylock published a novel transcallosal approach to excising intraventricular meningiomas of the trigone,[7][8] as well as developing the ventriculolymphatic shunt in the treatment of hydrocephalus.[9] He is retired as a clinical assistant professor of neurosurgery from the University of Mississippi Medical Center, and is currently a visiting professor in the biology department at Belhaven University,[1] a Christian university in Mississippi.[10] He is associated with the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons and was on the editorial board of their journal.[when?] [11]

Allegations of health dangers[edit]
Blaylock opposes the use of certain vaccines. He has urged avoidance of the swine flu (H1N1) vaccination, which he claims is more dangerous than the infection itself. He has also given advice on what he feels an individual should do if faced with mandatory vaccination,[12] although current research indicates that an effective vaccine is a vital tool in protecting the public and that the H1N1 vaccine is both safe and effective.[4][13] Blaylock suggests that Vitamin D, fish oil and antioxidants are effective against catching the flu. According to McGill University's Joe Schwarcz, there is no evidence for these claims.[14]

Blaylock also claims the supposed toxicity of numerous substances that according to scientific studies are safe at customary exposure levels. He has been quoted several times in media outlets regarding his position that MSG is toxic to the brain.[15][16][17] He also states that the widely used artificial sweetener aspartame is toxic[18][19] and may be the cause of multiple sclerosis.[20] He has additionally cautioned against heavy use of the artificial sweetener Splenda (sucralose).[21] These positions are not supported by scientific consensus or regulatory bodies, as extensive studies support the safety of aspartame, sucralose, and MSG.[2][3][22] Advertisements selling the 'Blaylock Wellness Report' at newsmax.com contain claims of additional health dangers, including fluoridated drinking water, fluoridated toothpaste, vaccines, dental amalgam, cholesterol drugs, pesticides, and aluminum cookware.[23] In April 2013, Dr. Blaylock entered his endorsement of the chemtrails conspiracy theory on an internet radio program called Linderman Unleashed Radio Show where he cited increased levels of aluminum in water bodies and nature with his common sense observations of the skies. He proposed the conspiratorial and criminal aircraft spraying by governments of nano toxins for some supposed global, emergency purpose.[24]

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:11am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:07am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:06am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:58am:
here is a Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock

Another well respected and legitimate source, oh wait:

Russell L Blaylock (born 1945) is an alternative health promoting physician who lives in Jackson, Miss. Blaylock has appeared all over the food-related advocacy space and has been around the voodoo health claims circuit.

Among his earlier campaigns Blaylock opposed food additives like aspartame and MSG. He had a wagon-full of junk science claims in his book regarding ‘excitotoxins’–a term he helped coin that is found in several homeopathic and alternative health snake oil sales sites. [1] Blaylock also promotes chemtrail conspiracies alleging cancer-causing nanoparticles as being purposefully released into the atmosphere in a government-corporate scheme.[2] Skeptic’s Dictionary and QuackWatch call him an anti-vaxxer [3] while selling his own line of “Brain Repair Formula” supplements. He has been called “quack of the day” by The Vaccine Conspiracy Theorist.[4]

To herbal medicine and alternative treatment groups, he sells alternative treatments for neurological disorders that he claims stem from aspartame, MSG and other food additives.


Another charlatan preying on the ignorant to peddle his own wares.

Got you hook line and sinker, although that isn't hard.


it is notable you did'nt supply your source * .

because your source is fake news big pharma propaganda

you are a simple repeater of fake news and big pharma

this is exposed and forgiven

namaste



There are 4 clickable sources embedded in the claim.

You can't just wish them away. 

Try again and look harder this time you liar.

And by the way, WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO COMPLAIN ABOUT UNSOURCED MATERIAL!? My goodness you're the biggest offender!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:12am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:09am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:02am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:58am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:51am:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
poor sad sack , how sad for you that you are upset ..

that's ok because I forgive you

so be at peace

namaste


Go eat a dick.


many blessings

I choose not to respond to abusive posters


Let's put things into context for a moment.  You had up until that point, for weeks, been a disrespectful so and so in your efforts to escape scrutiny after demanding your evidence be accepted and evaluated which left many questions that you were running from.

Cry baby post after cry baby post, meme and meme and meme, reposting and spamming to bury the questions put to you and I had admitedly snapped and given up.

I've put up with your disrespect for months and you shut down like a little cry baby when it's reciprocated?

Stop being so evasive and face the scrutiny and accountability for your lies and FAKE NEWS.








Yeah it pains me to admit, but your plan worked.  You pushed me beyond my breaking point in a calculated attempt to gain another out to run and hide from scrutiny and accountability for your LIES AND FAKE NEWS. 

And it's working.  I fell for it and you can play the victim. You have the choice to continue to cower in the shadows or step out in the light and face the criticism of your claims.

The choice is yours, but don't blame anyone else for the choice you make.




SadKangaroo wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
poor sad sack , how sad for you that you are upset ..

that's ok because I forgive you

so be at peace

namaste


Go eat a dick.



no thanks

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:13am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:11am:
here are the facts


And none of that contradicts what I've posted let alone goes in the direction of proving it wrong.  Try harder.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:15am
great info here ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J75wd4AbmJQ

CHEMTRAILS and STAR WARS ARE YOU TARGETED

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:16am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:12am:
no thanks


Running and hiding from questions you cannot answer again.  You know what that means?





You poor thing,


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:23am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:11am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:07am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:06am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 10:58am:
here is a Neurosurgeon Dr. Russell Blaylock

Another well respected and legitimate source, oh wait:

Russell L Blaylock (born 1945) is an alternative health promoting physician who lives in Jackson, Miss. Blaylock has appeared all over the food-related advocacy space and has been around the voodoo health claims circuit.

Among his earlier campaigns Blaylock opposed food additives like aspartame and MSG. He had a wagon-full of junk science claims in his book regarding ‘excitotoxins’–a term he helped coin that is found in several homeopathic and alternative health snake oil sales sites. [1] Blaylock also promotes chemtrail conspiracies alleging cancer-causing nanoparticles as being purposefully released into the atmosphere in a government-corporate scheme.[2] Skeptic’s Dictionary and QuackWatch call him an anti-vaxxer [3] while selling his own line of “Brain Repair Formula” supplements. He has been called “quack of the day” by The Vaccine Conspiracy Theorist.[4]

To herbal medicine and alternative treatment groups, he sells alternative treatments for neurological disorders that he claims stem from aspartame, MSG and other food additives.


Another charlatan preying on the ignorant to peddle his own wares.

Got you hook line and sinker, although that isn't hard.


it is notable you did'nt supply your source * .

because your source is fake news big pharma propaganda

you are a simple repeater of fake news and big pharma

this is exposed and forgiven

namaste



There are 4 clickable sources embedded in the claim.

You can't just wish them away. 

Try again and look harder this time you liar.

PLAIN ABOUT UNSOURCED MATERIAL!? My goodness you're the biggest offender!


you seem upset as usual


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:24am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A28QQ6Iqv4

ABSOLUTE DOCUMENTED PROOF CHEMTRAILS

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:26am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:23am:
you seem upset as usual


You're still running and hiding from questions you cannot answer again.  You know what that means?





You poor thing,





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:26am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:56am:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiY4nVEhnm4

CIA CONFIRMS CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL AND ARE DEPLOYED RIGHT NOW!


In an effort to "up my game" I've formatted this post to be more like Light's only with facts.

Another video showing airborne firefighting equipment as proof of chemtrailing and commenting on scientific studies without providing any further information about them or to them, let alone any peer reviewed findings also known as "Not proving their claims", aka more FAKE NEWS by it_is_the_light.

There is a clear anti-climate change message being pushed by the YouTuber, the same person who claims that NASA are covering up aliens on the Moon.  He wants the viewer to follow the money trail back to Al Gore, I suggest the YouTuber's  motivation for posting such lies and duping stupid people be investigated instead.

On top of that they take an out of context comment from CIA director John O. Brennan at the Council on Foreign Relations mentioned geoengineering, specifically stratospheric aerosol injection.

Claim: CIA director John O. Brennan admits geoengineering in the form of stratospheric aerosol injection (SAI) is taking place, ie "chemtrails".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfH5_BiaP8Y

Nowhere in his speech is there an "admission" that a SAI program is already taking place. The part where Brennan mentions geoengineering is just one example out of several, not-often-mentioned issues that CIA monitors for potential (future) elements of instability in the world. A SAI program, if ever implemented, could generate conflicts and security threats if misused. It's CIA's job to consider all types of concepts for potential future problems and threats, including science oriented concepts.

Reading the whole transcript, and the relevant parts, it becomes clear that when Brennan brings up geoengineering, he is talking about future concepts, that may never be put into practice:

This is the context of the speech:


Quote:
I’ll start with the overarching challenge of instability, which continues to grip large sections of the globe.

Global instability is one of the defining issues of our time, and its implications are hard to overstate. As instability spreads, extremists and terrorists are finding sanctuary in ungoverned spaces. Energy supplies are being disrupted. Political reform is suffering as too many governments opt for authoritarian measures at the expense of democratic principles and respect for human rights.

Here is the part where SAI is mentioned. Emphasis (highlight) has been added where there are clear indications how Brennan is talking about something that would be, could be a potential future thing:


Quote:
Another example is the array of technologies—often referred to collectively as geoengineering—that potentially couldhelp reverse the warming effects of global climate change.
[...]
An SAI program could limit global temperature increases, reducing some risks associated with higher temperatures and providing the world economy additional time to transition from fossil fuels.
[...]
As promising as it may be, moving forward on SAI would raise a number of challenges for our government and for the international community. On the technical side, greenhouse gas emission reductions would still have to accompany SAI to address other climate change effects, such as ocean acidification, because SAI alone would not remove greenhouse gases from the atmosphere.

On the geopolitical side, the technology’s potential to alter weather patterns and benefit certain regions at the expense of others could trigger sharp opposition by some nations. Others might seize on SAI’s benefits and back away from their commitment to carbon dioxide reductions. And, as with other breakthrough technologies, global norms and standards are lacking to guide the deployment and implementation of SAI.

It is quite clear that John O. Brennan does not talk about something that is already implemented. He talks about merely suggested technology that might be useful, but bot implemented and may never be, in the challenge against abrupt anthropogenic global warming.
Brennan also raised the issues with the proposed technology from a security perspective, which is what the CIA deals with every day.

This is nothing new. The goals and the problems of the proposed SAI technology is something that has been openly stated and discussed, both science and political-wise for more than a decade now. Brennan does not provide any new information on the subject.

"CIA CONFIRMS CHEMTRAILS ARE REAL AND ARE DEPLOYED RIGHT NOW!"? Swing and a miss, again.

More lies and FAKE NEWS by it_is_the_light.

Namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:26am
Also light, would you care to answer the question I've had to ask over and over in relation to your claims that the Melbourne Pollen storm was the result of barium exposure from secret Chemtrailing:

But back to the point, would you care to clear up and explain why there is not a single report from the 1000's of people impacted by the pollen storm of symptoms that match barium exposure other than the one you cherry picked which has been attributed to allergic reactions to the smaller starch granules as a results of the ruptured pollen or why nobody shows any test results that would indicate dangerous level of barium in their system?[/quote]

Or perhaps now as you claim that Inforwars is a legitimate news source that Chemtrailing has been thoroughly debunked by them will you accept that as the truth and be done with this?


it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 1st, 2017 at 7:48am:
for those that do not know

Infowars is a legitimate news agency , so much so

it has white house approval .. maybe you listen to to much fake MSNBC news ?

https://www.infowars.com/its-official-infowars-receives-white-house-press-credentials/

IT’S OFFICIAL! INFOWARS RECEIVES WHITE HOUSE PRESS CREDENTIALS



SadKangaroo wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 12:51pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlTeqBwf2Ic

You can even replicate it yourself at home,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msSVQ903T8k

I'll even buy and send you the adapter for the plastic bottle so you can do the experiment yourself.  Give me a PO Box or something and I'll have it delivered to you.

Namaste


Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 11:29am
people on the ground cannot see deployment above the clouds..

pilots films AIR FORCE chemtrails from the air WOW *

uniformed deployment multiple jets !!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7MXzFcfx30

Pilot Films 3 Chemtrails Tankers air to air

Q. why are 3 planes flying so close to each other  ??

https://chemtrailsplanet.net/2017/03/04/epic-video-3-chemtrails-tankers-filmed-from-above-air-to-air/



EPIC VIDEO: 3 Chemtrails Tankers Filmed From Above. Boeing-777 alleged radio failure produces 2 Typhoon jet fighters obviously spraying chemtrails. (Psyop?)
Notice the jet in the middle is spraying an obviously different color trail with different consistency.
Category
Science & Technology







Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 1:58pm
CHEMTRAILS DEBUNKED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtgkkAZDXIo

Ever since the mid-90s, there's been a movement of conspiracy theorists who believe the long trails behind jet aircraft are toxic chemicals being sprayed into the air. They refer to these trails as "chemtrails". This video debunks some of the common arguments used to support the chemtrail conspiracy theory.

SOURCES:

Meteorology: Understanding the Atmosphere
https://books.google.com/books?id=qWcrAQAAQBAJ

Aircraft Contrails Factsheet
https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/policy_guidance/envir_policy/media/contrails.pdf

Condensation trails
http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/aircraftnoise/aircraft-operations/9518-2/

Understanding Contrails: A window into conditions in the upper troposphere
http://science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/contrail-edu/pdf/science/CFG_slides.pdf

Contrails 101
https://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/headquarters_offices/apl/noise_emissions/contrails/

Exploring the Sky by Day
https://books.google.com/books?id=Y3CNKwAACAAJ

A Field Guide to the Atmosphere
[url]https://books.google.com/books?id=q0QI19T_POkC[/url]

International Cloud Atlas
http://library.wmo.int/pmb_ged/wmo_407_en-v1.pdf

Multiple Contrail Streamers Observed by Radar
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0450(1974)013%3C0563%3AMCSOBR%3E2.0.CO%3B2

Clouds of the World
https://books.google.com/books?id=B5cRAQAAIAAJ

Airborne Observations of Contrail Effects on the Thermal Radiation Budget
http://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/pdf/10.1175/1520-0469(1970)027%3C0937%3AAOOCEO%3E2.0.CO%3B2

A Colour Guide to Clouds
https://books.google.com/books?id=1TXgBAAAQBAJ

Cloud Study: A Pictorial Guide
https://books.google.com/books?id=iZYJAQAAIAAJ

Condensation Trails
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/j.1477-8696.1946.tb00024.x/abstract

Clouds and Weather Phenomena
https://books.google.com/books?id=iVMQCAAAQBAJ

Mission To Bremen
archive.org/details/CS-1062

The Memphis Belle: A Story Of A Flying Fortress
archive.org/details/TheMemphisBelleAStoryofaFlyingFortress

The Enemy Strikes, 1945
https://youtu.be/Fu1AIiqARiQ

Meopham Issue Title - Looking Around
https://youtu.be/yi70fLyaXYQ

ICAO Seminar on International Air Transport Policy and Liberalization
http://www.icao.int/Meetings/ICAN2013/Documents/Presentations/ican_2013_ICAO_ATConf-6.pdf

United Airlines Timetables, Route Maps and History.
http://airchive.com/html/timetable-and-route-maps/united-airlines-timetables-route-maps-and-history

What is a contrail and how does it form?
http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/fgz/science/contrail.php

Flight Lines - Why contrails hang around.
http://www.airspacemag.com/flight-today/flight-lines-3-18415244/

Encyclopedia of Atmospheric Sciences
https://books.google.com/books?id=8lpzAwAAQBAJ

Contrails - Persistent
http://science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/contrail-edu/contrails-persistent.php

Contrails and Clouds
http://science-edu.larc.nasa.gov/contrail-edu/contrails-and-clouds.php

Boeing Wideboadies
https://books.google.com/books?id=OEniu9ff-_sC

Tour an Airbus A380
http://www.seattlepi.com/news/slideshow/Tour-an-Airbus-A380-3281/photo-646552.php

Take a Peek Inside the 747-8 Test Plane
[url]http://www.wired.com/2010/02/peek-inside-boeing-747-8/

Inside Boeing : Building the 777
https://books.google.com/books?id=iJ2FqbrRqyYC[/url]

Onboard the first Boeing 787 Dreamliner
https://youtu.be/uHAf7HzMG8g

Aerial delivery system
https://www.google.com/patents/US7413145

747 Supertanker’s world tour
http://wildfiretoday.com/2009/07/30/747-supertankers-world-tour/

Global Supertanker – Air Tanker Board
https://vimeo.com/179143108

EU_GSTS
https://vimeo.com/158012582

Fuel Dumping
http://www.zurich-airport.com/~/media/flughafenzh/dokumente/das_unternehmen/laerm_politik_und_umwelt/2012_fuel_dumping_en.pdf

Aircraft Fuel System
https://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/handbooks_manuals/aircraft/amt_airframe_handbook/media/ama_ch14.pdf[/url]

Ask the Pilot
https://books.google.com/books?id=xqqGGLFa4Z8C

Flying the Airbus A380
https://books.google.com/books?id=j_08BAAAQBAJ

Why do planes have to dump fuel for emergency landings?
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/travel/columnist/getline/2005-01-10-ask-the-captain_x.htm

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 6:13pm


eyes to the skies !



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 8:46pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 6:13pm:


eyes to the skies !



Your before picture is an obvious photoshop.  Manufacturing more facts I see.

And even if it were true, it's only evidence on Contrails...

Nothing but lies and fake news again and again and again.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 8:53pm

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 8:54pm

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 8:58pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 8:53pm:


Again, there is a scientific explanation, the planes are at different altitudes and the humidity, pressure and air temperature are different which changes the length of time the frozen condensation stays in that state.

This was explained with evidence cited in the video you ignored.

Also, the website you stole the image from also debunks your conspiracy,

https://occupytheory.org/chemtrails-debunked/

Opps...!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:00pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length HD Version)

Published on Aug 5, 2011
This is the wildly successful, ultimate documentary on the subject of stratospheric aerosol geoengineering. Some refer to this as Chemtrails. I was the editor and motion graphics designer on this movie as well as the follow up video "Hawaii Revisited." We cut the film in 1280x720 HD/ 5.1 Dolby, using media from 7 different cameras; from "pen type" spy cams to HD rigs and everything in between. Enjoy the show and spread the link... Please purchase the DVD from seller WITWATS on AMAZON. Produced in the studios of Cut My Flix. http://cutmyflix.com

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:03pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:00pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length HD Version)


Another video that asks a question insinuating that it's a factual statement of truth offering any actual evidence.

More lies and fake news...  You can't help yourself.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:10am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:03pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:00pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length HD Version)


Another video that asks a question insinuating that it's a factual statement of truth offering any actual evidence.

More lies and fake news...  You can't help yourself.


a 1 hr and 37 minute presentation and you reply in 3 minutes

you are a simple troll just spamming this thread with inane conjecture



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 4th, 2017 at 7:43am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:10am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:03pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:00pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length HD Version)


Another video that asks a question insinuating that it's a factual statement of truth offering any actual evidence.

More lies and fake news...  You can't help yourself.


a 1 hr and 37 minute presentation and you reply in 3 minutes

you are a simple troll just spamming this thread with inane conjecture



You want me to watch more than a few minutes of your uncited youtuber opinion video after ignoring my much shorter video with all thr sources to the claims made in debunking yours?

you are a simple troll just spamming this thread with inane conjecture



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 4th, 2017 at 1:23pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 7:43am:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:10am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:03pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:00pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length HD Version)


Another video that asks a question insinuating that it's a factual statement of truth offering any actual evidence.

More lies and fake news...  You can't help yourself.


a 1 hr and 37 minute presentation and you reply in 3 minutes

you are a simple troll just spamming this thread with inane conjecture



You want me to watch more than a few minutes of your uncited youtuber opinion video after ignoring my much shorter video with all thr sources to the claims made in debunking yours?

you are a simple troll just spamming this thread with inane conjecture






SadKangaroo wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:11pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on May 14th, 2017 at 12:10pm:
poor sad sack , how sad for you that you are upset ..

that's ok because I forgive you

so be at peace

namaste


Go eat a dick.


first you abuse me ,



it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 4th, 2017 at 3:10am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:03pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 3rd, 2017 at 9:00pm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks

What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length HD Version)


Another video that asks a question insinuating that it's a factual statement of truth offering any actual evidence.

More lies and fake news...  You can't help yourself.


a 1 hr and 37 minute presentation and you reply in 3 minutes

you are a simple troll just spamming this thread with inane conjecture



then you simply copy my post ..

you are all that and a Plagiarist as well..



your defeat is admitted and accepted





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 4th, 2017 at 2:18pm


I do like the fact that a secret organisation has got both Boeing and Airbus to talk their engineer into designing their commercial aircraft to take on thousands of pounds of chemicals in place of fuel and have thousands of technicians build aircraft with these dispersal systems all with not one word of comment from the tens of thousands of people involved.

The second part is the secret organisation then got thousands of people all over the world to load poisonous chemicals into aircraft without asking a single question about why they were doing it.

I mean that is fantastic.


And best of all after years of spraying this sh1t all over the place, not much has happened because of it, no millions of dead or defoliation, hardly any impact at all.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on Jun 4th, 2017 at 8:18pm
No - the best part of it that chemtrailers don't even believe their own stupid theories.

Think about it - someone honestly believes that the government is spraying tons of some evil chemical into the air every day, and their reaction is to stay at home and post some youtube videos about it to a relatively tiny forum (in a global sense)

wow - that's commitment!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 4th, 2017 at 10:54pm
tell that to richie from boston ..

sounds like a nice guy and has captured some incredible footage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Sxo1Ml5qU

TRUMP STOPS CHEMTRAILS executive order

Published on May 21, 2017
3 things
1. TRUMP IS AN ELITE
2.CHEMTRAILS CONTINUE
3. I ACCIDENTLY CAUGHT WHATEVER THE NEW COMPOUND THEY ARE SPRAYING.
PLEASE CHIME IN

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 4th, 2017 at 10:55pm
for serious researchers *

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0bCebM08gA

Alan Watt (May 7, 2017) Chemtrail Mixtures on the Rise, Bringing Storms, Sickness, Toxic Skies

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 5th, 2017 at 6:18am
even the fake news is telling you about chemtrails and that they exist ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9uPM_mVDqU


CNN Admits Chemtrails Exist

Published on Jun 4, 2017
Taking a break from reporting very fake news, CNN finally admitted that geoengineering is real.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/06/01/us/nasa-colorful-clouds/index.html

NASA postpones early light show




By Brandon Miller, CNN Meteorologist
Updated 1250 GMT (2050 HKT) June 4, 2017



A long exposure shows the night sky at the Wallops Flight Facility on Chincoteague Island, Virginia.

(CNN)UPDATE: NASA has postponed until at least June 11 the launch of a rocket that was expected to bring a multi-colored light show visible to people along the East Coast.

The launch of a Terrier-Improved Malemute sounding rocket was delayed because of clouds, NASA said. It was set to launch from Wallops Flight Facility on the eastern shore of Virginia.
ORIGINAL STORY -- If you live along the Eastern Seaboard and wake up early Sunday, you could be treated to a colorful sky hours before sunrise.

Blue-green and red clouds could be visible in the predawn sky from New York to North Carolina, thanks to a NASA rocket due to be launched from Wallops Flight Facility on the eastern shore of Virginia.


NASA had hoped to launch the rocket early Saturday, but had to scrub the attempt because of boats in the area where the payload is expected to fall back to Earth.
The Terrier-Improved Malemute sounding rocket isn't even the coolest part of the mission.
Four to five minutes after launch, the rocket is expected to deploy 10 canisters about the size of soft drink cans, each containing a colored vapor that forms artificial, luminescent clouds.

The clouds, or vapor tracers, are formed "through the interaction of barium, strontium, and cupric-oxide," according to NASA.

Since the canisters will be released about 100 miles (160 kilometers) above the ground, the space agency says they "pose absolutely no hazard to residents along the mid-Atlantic coast." Sounding rockets have been used for more than 40 years to carry science payloads on missions that last just five to 20 minutes.
The vapor tracers will allow scientists on the ground to view the movement of the particles in the ionosphere, a part of the Earth's atmosphere that stretches to the edge of space, to learn more about the movement of the air currents at that altitude.
The whole mission will last only about eight minutes before the payload lands in the Atlantic Ocean, about 90 miles out to sea from its launch point in Virginia.




Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 5th, 2017 at 6:27am
here are some concerned Pilots, Doctors & Scientists..

why would they give false testimony and subject themself to ridicule ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnWaBsMYnY

Pilots, Doctors & Scientists Tell Truth about Chemtrails [Excerpts]


Quote:
" latest water test : tested the rain , 13,100 micrograms per litre of aluminium in the rain in 2013 ..normally it should be zero "






Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 5th, 2017 at 6:34am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfeCDcqTW0g
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 5th, 2017 at 8:32am

None of which, comes even close to answering how tens of thousands of people actively participate in this program all across the world without so much as a peep.

No-one questions the of non-fuel storage tanks into an aircraft design including all the extra plumbing


No-one questions the massive storage tanks of chemical at the airports all across the US and the world.

Not a single person in any capacity has ask why the non-fuel / non waste tankers are doing connected to an aircraft.



Something ta is impossible to hide is so effectively ignored by literally tens if not hundreds of thousands of people all over the world.


A truly amazing feat by this secret organisation, you have to be impressed with their skills.



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Fireball on Jun 5th, 2017 at 8:48am
"Chemtrails" implies, as with crop spraying aircraft, the airlines are spraying chemicals into the atmosphere. My father was RAF and referred to them as 'vapour trails' caused by the aircraft flying at a certain height, at a certain speed, cutting through the atmosphere, disturbing the air, as the cause. Nothing particularly conspiratorial, just physics really.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on Jun 5th, 2017 at 9:08am

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 8:48am:
My father was RAF and referred to them as 'vapour trails' caused by the aircraft flying at a certain height, at a certain speed, cutting through the atmosphere, disturbing the air, as the cause. Nothing particularly conspiratorial, just physics really.


That's because he was part of the conspiracy!!!   :D





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Jun 5th, 2017 at 10:40am

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 8:48am:
"Chemtrails" implies, as with crop spraying aircraft, the airlines are spraying chemicals into the atmosphere. My father was RAF and referred to them as 'vapour trails' caused by the aircraft flying at a certain height, at a certain speed, cutting through the atmosphere, disturbing the air, as the cause. Nothing particularly conspiratorial, just physics really.



That is what sane people agree they are.

Im wondering how the conspiracy theorist explain the shear size and scope of what they are saying and nothing is ever mentioned by those directly involved, especially since they are all civilians working on civilian aircraft.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Fireball on Jun 5th, 2017 at 11:13am
I wonder what an old Battle of Britain dog fight picture over Big Ben has to do with this thread........more 'Vapour Trails'.............once again no conspiracy.....after all the Spitfires and Hurricanes and German planes weren't fitted with 'chemtanks'.....

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:01pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 11:13am:
I wonder what an old Battle of Britain dog fight picture over Big Ben has to do with this thread........more 'Vapour Trails'.............once again no conspiracy.....after all the Spitfires and Hurricanes and German planes weren't fitted with 'chemtanks'.....


Are you sure?  ;D

There's already a few million people involved in this supposed conspiracy, what would a few thousand more matter?

I'm sure IITL will be along to expose it all shortly with another 16 youtube videos  :D :D :D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Fireball on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:12pm

Stig wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:01pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 11:13am:
I wonder what an old Battle of Britain dog fight picture over Big Ben has to do with this thread........more 'Vapour Trails'.............once again no conspiracy.....after all the Spitfires and Hurricanes and German planes weren't fitted with 'chemtanks'.....


Are you sure?  ;D

There's already a few million people involved in this supposed conspiracy, what would a few thousand more matter?

I'm sure IITL will be along to expose it all shortly with another 16 youtube videos  :D :D :D


Poor Jack, reverting to sock status to post sh!t........

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:15pm

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 8:48am:
"Chemtrails" implies, as with crop spraying aircraft, the airlines are spraying chemicals into the atmosphere. My father was RAF and referred to them as 'vapour trails' caused by the aircraft flying at a certain height, at a certain speed, cutting through the atmosphere, disturbing the air, as the cause. Nothing particularly conspiratorial, just physics really.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfeCDcqTW0g
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Fireball on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:19pm
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Stig on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:42pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..


So the flap hinge covers on an MD-11 are now "chemtrail sprayers"?





Comedy gold

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:59pm

Stig wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:42pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..


So the flap hinge covers on an MD-11 are now "chemtrail sprayers"?





Comedy gold


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfeCDcqTW0g
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 5th, 2017 at 2:46pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:59pm:

Stig wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:42pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..


So the flap hinge covers on an MD-11 are now "chemtrail sprayers"?





Comedy gold


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfeCDcqTW0g
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..


Light, this was addressed in the following video with the supporting sources here,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtgkkAZDXIo

Direct link to explanation:https://youtu.be/mtgkkAZDXIo?t=4m12s

If you want to refute it you will need to do so with facts not just the opinions of others.  Re-posting the same video for the I don't know how many-th time won't be enough because it's been shown that it proves nothing with sources to explain why.  That is what you'll need to refute, or, offer some actual proof of your claims.

So far you've done neither.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 5th, 2017 at 4:27pm

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 2:46pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:59pm:

Stig wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:42pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..


So the flap hinge covers on an MD-11 are now "chemtrail sprayers"?





Comedy gold


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfeCDcqTW0g
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..


Light, this was addressed in the following video with the supporting sources here,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtgkkAZDXIo

Direct link to explanation:https://youtu.be/mtgkkAZDXIo?t=4m12s

If you want to refute it you will need to do so with facts not just the opinions of others.  Re-posting the same video for the I don't know how many-th time won't be enough because it's been shown that it proves nothing with sources to explain why.  That is what you'll need to refute, or, offer some actual proof of your claims.

So far you've done neither.


oh yes that is " natetalkstoyou "..

he also gives you great advice on what porn to watch

I do NOT watch porn or conduct the self abuse ritual that is satanic in nature that coincides with that self abuse.

he is a shill and a propaganda piece for satan essentially

supporting big government narrative and backing it up with government sponsored " science "

this fake news you support and post is all debunked here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks&t=1s


What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length HD Version)


also here are some concerned Pilots, Doctors & Scientists..

why would they give false testimony and subject themself to ridicule ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnWaBsMYnY

Pilots, Doctors & Scientists Tell Truth about Chemtrails [Excerpts]


Quote:
" latest water test : tested the rain , 13,100 micrograms per litre of aluminium in the rain in 2013 ..normally it should be zero "







Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 5th, 2017 at 6:06pm
So you've dismissed the YouTuber, that's fine, but you still need to address the sources that guided his opinion and proved yours to be flat out wrong.

Said sources provide a scientific explanation for what is seen.

You've provided "But it looks like Chemtrails, FACT!" and nothing else.

Each time your question for proof on a claims you've made, you ignore it and make ANOTHER claim, sift attention away from what you cannot answer, then when you get called out again, you repeat the process and make YET ANOTHER claim and the circle continues. 

That's not how it works...

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 8th, 2017 at 9:22am
Proof of Chemtrails found in QLD!



Oh look, a cloud formation from Thornlands QLD on Tuesday and I don't understand the science behind its formation.  Must be malfunctioning chemtrails or the pilot turning it off and back on again multiple times..!

I don't have any evidence to suggest that it is a chemtrail but I'll dismiss any questions relating to that as trolling, attacks from abusers or I'll ignore it complete and start posting more "evidence". 

But on top of that, it's the lack of any other possilbe explanation due to my own limited understanding of the world and my desire for this to be proof of chemtrails meaning I am special because I've stumbled onto a hidden truth that only proves it must be chemtrails

Solid proof!

Now to share it all over social media until someone else shares it so I can share their share to it doesn't look like I made it up!

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 8th, 2017 at 10:00am
many blessings ,

I saw the same formation from manly brisbane and yes ..

it separates into clumps , shows the flightpath dumped from the plane and proves the anomaly is just that ,

not natural .

well done for observing your reality as I see you are now more aware than you were before

this is a blessings in your life !

http://www.newstarget.com/2016-09-21-military-whistleblower-exposes-chemtrails-existence.html





https://youtu.be/byz-L4yloGo

Military whistleblower exposes existence of chemtrails


namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 8th, 2017 at 10:38am

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 10:00am:
many blessings ,

I saw the same formation from manly brisbane and yes ..

it separates into clumps , shows the flightpath dumped from the plane and proves the anomaly is just that ,

not natural .


I didn't realise the use of "sarcasm" tags would have been nessisary...  Not sure if you're trolling or your confirmation bias is getting in the way as usual?

Other than your opinion, do you have have any evidence to suggest that the cloud formation is "not natural" or do you simply want them to be not natural?

And as for Kristen Meghan, she's already explained that her "whistleblowing" was nothing to do with chemtrails, it was to do with exposure to chemicals at air bases. She has since become involved in the chemtrail theory, but her talking points are the usual debunked ones from the internet.

She has offered no proof or evidence to what people are attributing to her claims of chemtrails, she's even admitted she's never seen and of the chemicals she talks about ever be loaded onto or even near any aircraft on the base.  Her initial concerns were that the chemicals and other hazardous materials on the base were finding their way into the surrounding environment and as she lived at the time of a properly neighbouring the base she was conducting tests in her own back yard.

What she failed to understand is that aluminium is natually found in air, soil and water without the need for chemtrails and lab tests will reveal that but those results speak nothing to the toxicity of the aluminium.

People often get confused regarding the toxicity of aluminium. Some aluminium compounds are not harmful. They are a common ingredient in antacids, for instance. On the other hand, the ionic form (Al+++) is very toxic to both people and plants.

So getting lab results that show traces of Al won't show if the Al was in a toxic form or not, nor will it show if the Al originated from soils or sprayed from planes.

But from your point of view light, does any of that matter to you or don't you need any evidence to support your claims?

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:42am
you obviously choose to ignore the evidence

par for the course , carry on regardless



SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 2:46pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:59pm:

Stig wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:42pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 5th, 2017 at 12:15pm:
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..


So the flap hinge covers on an MD-11 are now "chemtrail sprayers"?





Comedy gold


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfeCDcqTW0g
ChemTrail Proof: 2 guys in Jet catches them spraying Chemicals Trails ~ Chem Trails ~ (mirror)

check out @ 46 seconds .. they stop spraying ..

@ 1:20 they start up spraying again ..


Light, this was addressed in the following video with the supporting sources here,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtgkkAZDXIo

Direct link to explanation:https://youtu.be/mtgkkAZDXIo?t=4m12s

If you want to refute it you will need to do so with facts not just the opinions of others.  Re-posting the same video for the I don't know how many-th time won't be enough because it's been shown that it proves nothing with sources to explain why.  That is what you'll need to refute, or, offer some actual proof of your claims.

So far you've done neither.


oh yes that is " natetalkstoyou "..

he also gives you great advice on what porn to watch

I do NOT watch porn or conduct the self abuse ritual that is satanic in nature that coincides with that self abuse.

he is a shill and a propaganda piece for satan essentially

supporting big government narrative and backing it up with government sponsored " science "

this fake news you support and post is all debunked here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFQ2_0QNiks&t=1s


What in the World Are They Spraying? (Full Length HD Version)


also here are some concerned Pilots, Doctors & Scientists..

why would they give false testimony and subject themself to ridicule ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPnWaBsMYnY

Pilots, Doctors & Scientists Tell Truth about Chemtrails [Excerpts]


Quote:
" latest water test : tested the rain , 13,100 micrograms per litre of aluminium in the rain in 2013 ..normally it should be zero "





Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 8th, 2017 at 2:56pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:42am:
you obviously choose to ignore the evidence

par for the course , carry on regardless


I'm not ignoring anything, you've just not provided any evidence.  You have posted a lot, and I mean a lot (and that's ignoring the gargantuan volume of reposts) but nothing has yet stood up to the most basic of scrutiny and you yourself keep running from questioning.

If you case was so clear cut you shouldn't have to employ the tactics of someone trying to sell a broken down used car as good as new.

You're providing videos that show the opinions of people who hold enormous gaps in their understand of basic physics and science in general who are using "chemtrails" to fill in the gaps and none of their opinions are formed from provable fact or repeatable scientific experiment. 

None.  Not a single one.

As usual you've never even cited primary sources and at best have only shown us the opinions of people who have made their minds up that chemtrails are real, they exist and it's a global government conspiracy to control the people.  No amount of facts or evidence around the truth of the phenomena they proport as chemtrails explaining each and every one of their claims as naturally occurring or at least explained by science will change their mind.

And you're one of them.

"That naturally forming cloud looks different from what I consider "normal" clouds, must be chemtrails!"

No matter how hard you try you cannot lower the standard of what is considered provable fact and evidence simply to try and prove that Chemtrails are real.  You'll need to actually prove it, which so far you've not come close to being able to show, but a loooooong shot.

You're still ignoring the fact that you've blamed the casualties from the Melbourne Pollen Storm on Chemtrails and cloud seeding.  You have no evidence to back it up, you just want it to be true to help prove your case for Chemtrails.  Yet you won't take back the claim or apologise.  You're still pushing that demonstrably false line. 

You're a liar and a fraud.

I've said it many times before, as have others, what you've posted as your "proof" are nothing but the opinions of others and are not facts, they're not evidence.  If you want to accuse people of ignoring your evidence, you'll have to post some first.

As for ignoring, I've posted explanations to many of the phenomena you have claimed are "proof" of chemtrails and provided you with the sources to back it up.  If anything has been ignored in this thread it has been that, by you.

Again, you know you're in the wrong and you're trying to accuse others of your own deeds and failings before they have the chance to accuse you, presumably to lessen the impacts when they try to hold you to account.

The facts speak for themselves.  You're a liar and a fraud who does nothing but spread fake news.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 8th, 2017 at 2:58pm

it_is_the_light wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 11:42am:
oh yes that is " natetalkstoyou "..

he also gives you great advice on what porn to watch

I do NOT watch porn or conduct the self abuse ritual that is satanic in nature that coincides with that self abuse.

he is a shill and a propaganda piece for satan essentially

supporting big government narrative and backing it up with government sponsored " science "


More proof of you ignoring the information that has debunked your claims, then trying to turn it around on those who posted it.

You didn't address any of the claims or the sourced that back them up. 

You're a liar and a fraud.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 8th, 2017 at 3:49pm
latest water test : tested the rain , 13,100 micrograms per litre of aluminium in the rain in 2013 ..normally it should be zero "


Usually the testing is so shoddy the results can be ignored.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Jun 8th, 2017 at 8:53pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
latest water test : tested the rain , 13,100 micrograms per litre of aluminium in the rain in 2013 ..normally it should be zero "


Usually the testing is so shoddy the results can be ignored.


Also, the "should be zero" isn't actually correct.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Jun 9th, 2017 at 11:54am

SadKangaroo wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 8:53pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 8th, 2017 at 3:49pm:
latest water test : tested the rain , 13,100 micrograms per litre of aluminium in the rain in 2013 ..normally it should be zero "


Usually the testing is so shoddy the results can be ignored.


Also, the "should be zero" isn't actually correct.


thats it ?

you havent got much there ,

also

your photo here only serves to prove chemtrails in your home town .

you can clearly see the flight path the plane took ,

and the barium strontium and aluminium bonding together in a condensed " cloud " formation in a STRAIGHT LINE .

you can also see the haze of previous chemtrailing in the background ,

well done .. !



the fact you take the time to photo these chemtrails and then ignore it as natural only serves to affirm your fear at what is being sprayed unto you and your family .

men are supposed to protect not run and hide ..

yet either way be at peace

in love and light

namaste



Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Mechanic on Aug 27th, 2017 at 3:15pm
ok..

as I'm new to all this Epic Chemtrails..

can someone explain me the logic behind it?

why is China doing it?

why is nasa doing it? (as they have admitted to doing so)

I just need it in a nutshell to catch up ..  :)

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 27th, 2017 at 3:40pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
ok..

as I'm new to all this Epic Chemtrails..

can someone explain me the logic behind it?

why is China doing it?

why is nasa doing it? (as they have admitted to doing so)

I just need it in a nutshell to catch up ..  :)



At one point wharfy accused the RAAF of spray chem trails as well.

I do remember conducting some modifications to the F111 back in the 80s.  :) :)
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Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The_Barnacle on Aug 27th, 2017 at 3:44pm

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
can someone explain me the logic behind it?


There is no logic behind it

The only people who believe in it are conspiracy theorists

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Mechanic on Aug 27th, 2017 at 8:38pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 27th, 2017 at 3:44pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
can someone explain me the logic behind it?


There is no logic behind it

The only people who believe in it are conspiracy theorists


but china are doing it.. .

and NASA are also doing it...

they freely admit it as I've read lately.. . :-/

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by The Mechanic on Aug 27th, 2017 at 8:54pm

Quote:
In case you weren’t aware, NASA openly sprayed the sky off the East Coast of the United States with toxic metals a few months ago, several times. Barium and other metals used in geoengineering (chemtrail spraying) were sprayed off the coast of Maryland via a sounding rocket.

NASA colored the barium, and announced they were spraying to the mainstream media, so it would be made into a spectacle as if it were some natural beauty like a meteor shower. They are playing people like fools, coloring toxic metals and spraying them, insulting people so much as to ask them to look at it, like it were some natural beautiful phenomena.

Earlier this year, the US government openly announced they were looking into research for geoengineering. The CIA director pushed for spraying the skies last year, a Carnegie institution started getting deeper into it, and David Keith set up an “experiment” to openly spray the skies again.

The fact is: the skies from the US, to Australia, to Europe are already being sprayed almost daily. The stratosphere is being sprayed with aluminum, barium, strontium and other metals, and countless rain tests, patents, and other pieces of evidence have put these facts down so tangibly and thoroughly, no one could possibly deny this is happening if they investigated it.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Oct 7th, 2017 at 1:34pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_Modification_Convention

Environmental Modification Convention

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Environmental Modification Convention (ENMOD), formally the Convention on the Prohibition of Military or Any Other Hostile Use of Environmental Modification Techniques is an international treaty prohibiting the military or other hostile use of environmental modification techniques having widespread, long-lasting or severe effects. It opened for signature on 18 May 1977 in Geneva and entered into force on 5 October 1978.

The Convention bans weather warfare, which is the use of weather modification techniques for the purposes of inducing damage or destruction. The Convention on Biological Diversity of 2010 would also ban some forms of weather modification or geoengineering.[2]

Many states do not regard this as a complete ban on the use of herbicides in warfare, such as Agent Orange, but it does require case-by-case consideration.[3]

History[edit]
The problem of artificial modification of the environment for military or other hostile purposes was brought to the international agenda in the early 1970s. Following the US decision of July 1972 to renounce the use of climate modification techniques for hostile purposes, the 1973 resolution by the US Senate calling for an international agreement "prohibiting the use of any environmental or geophysical modification activity as a weapon of war", and an in-depth review by the Department of Defense of the military aspects of weather and other environmental modification techniques, US decided to seek agreement with the Soviet Union to explore the possibilities of an international agreement.

In July 1974, US and USSR agreed to hold bilateral discussions on measures to overcome the danger of the use of environmental modification techniques for military purposes and three subsequent rounds of discussions in 1974 and 1975. In August 1975, US and USSR tabled identical draft texts of a convention at the Conference of the Committee on Disarmament (CCD), Conference on Disarmament, where intensive negotiations resulted in a modified text and understandings regarding four articles of this Convention in 1976.

The Convention was approved by Resolution 31/72 of the General Assembly of the United Nations on 10 December 1976, by 96 to 8 votes with 30 abstentions.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad Kangaroo on Dec 9th, 2017 at 11:11am

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2017 at 8:38pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Aug 27th, 2017 at 3:44pm:

President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 27th, 2017 at 3:15pm:
can someone explain me the logic behind it?


There is no logic behind it

The only people who believe in it are conspiracy theorists


but china are doing it.. .

and NASA are also doing it...

they freely admit it as I've read lately.. . :-/


If you don't just read what is taken out of context, warped and lied about but the conspiracy nuts and read the entire paper you'll find that Nasa, China etc aren't doing what the conspiracy fools claim.

They cherry pick quotes, take pictures of firefighting aircraft claiming to be hidden footage of chemtrail setups and mostly they ignore well established and proven explanations for what we see to push their agenda that they're special, they have the inside scoop and a hidden truth that validates them as a person.  It's as simple as that, and quite sad to boot.

Nasa have a framework to control such actions relating to cloud seeding etc, but the idea of heavy metals for the purpose of mind control, population control or whatever the latest trend the mentally impaired are clinging to around chemtrails and all these scientifically illiterate people turning to conspiracies to explain phenomena they cannot claiming they've found proof is nothing but the ramblings of people who may have good intentions, but are flat out wrong and doing more damage than good.

There are plenty of people, organisations and governments doing terrible things around the world and they must love the time wasted and distractions caused by the idiot conspiracy theorists like this and the flat earthers.

It's a great distraction to keep their profits up while destroying the planet.

Oh that's right, climate change is a hoax too :facepalm:

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Apr 7th, 2018 at 9:42am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk5u5OPlaEohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kdDkYfaNMQ

Daily Digest - John O. Brennan Speaks to CFR on Chemtrails    CIA Director John Brennan discusses Stratospheric Aerosol Injection aka Chemtrails at the CFR

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by it_is_the_light on Feb 14th, 2019 at 12:07am


https://youtu.be/Bx7qPVZJRO0

https://youtu.be/aL8y_7Q3Vvc

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Sad KangAnon on Feb 14th, 2019 at 9:33am
Con*trails.

Thread closed.

Title: Re: Epic Chemtrails
Post by Captain Nemo on Feb 14th, 2019 at 9:48am
Con-artist trails.  ;D

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