The Native People are under assault by the new sir jons of Queensland ... and he is silent of the Rights attack .

You are a sell out Mister



Tensions build in Brisbane's Musgrave Park as police expected to clear 'Brisbane Sovereign Embassy'

http://www.news.com.au/national/tensions-build-in-brisbanes-musgrave-park-as-police-expected-to-clear-brisbane-sovereign-embassy/story-e6frfkw9-1226357227128

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tatl1PBYim4

I am no sell out, you are a genocidal monster. 8-)

corporate_whitey wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 8:53am:

I am no sell out, you are a genocidal monster. 8-)

The Right are throwing Native People off their Land.

The Right Are Arresting Native People

The Right is Attacking


And YOU are Silent



SELL OUT

So Queenslanders have given total control to the Right in the State


Will they reinforce this by giving total control of the Right at federal level.



Will Queenslanders embrase fascism on all levels.
Will New South Welsh people
Will Victorians.


Whitey Has.

Why are the Greens and the ALP robbing my country?

corporate_whitey wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 9:10am:

Why are the Greens and the ALP robbing my country?

Don't Cry Crocodile Tears Mister


Native Peoples of this Land are under attack by the Right

and you look the other way


You Sell Out

Start a thread condemning the Right

or expose yourself as a liberal party ring in poster.

Poll

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 9:18am:

corporate_whitey wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:10am: Why are the Greens and the ALP robbing my country? Don't Cry Crocodile Tears Mister Native Peoples of this Land are under attack by the Right and you look the other way You Sell Out Start a thread condemning the Right or expose yourself as a liberal party ring in poster.

Why are the government giving away my country to invaders and pushing vice onto my community for profit - what do the greens and ALP have to say about that??

Side tracking still Whitey?

Native People are under attack by the Right in Queensland and you refuse to help them.

Are you a right wing racist?

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the latest edition of...


"Idiot vs idiot"

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 9:57am:

Side tracking still Whitey? Native People are under attack by the Right in Queensland and you refuse to help them. Are you a right wing racist?

Do you deny the Greens and ALP are profiting by pushing vice in our communities to destroy our families and culture?

18 Aboriginal Arrests By The Right Already Whitey


Why Are You Silent Mister ... Why do you refuse to help them.


Are You A Liberal Party Stooge Trying to be something else?

longweekend58 wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 9:58am:

the latest edition of... "Idiot vs idiot"

Like two kids from the 'Special School' trying to win at Trivial Persuit.  ;D

Protesters say they spoke to Greek Festival organisers and they'd agreed they could stay.


Why is the Right still attacking the Native People Whitey?

Why are you refusing to help them and side with the attackers of Native Australia.

You are a sell out mister

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Come On Whitey

Were Is You Outrage For The Attack On Native Australia By The Right


Why Are You Silent

Why Are You A Sell Out?

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Come On Whitey ... Stand With You Native Australians

Condemn The Right's Attack Here or start a thread.


Live Streaming

http://www.couriermail.com.au/newsqldlive


so you can watch the Right attacking Native Australians

So Newman negotiated with the elders, to leave the Tent Embassy where it is, on the weekend ... and then hid behind the police and got them to do this dirty work.


Welcome back Sir Joh junior.


Meanwhile Whitey is still selling Native Australia Out.

Quote:

Indigenous women say no to gay marriage Anna Henderson Updated February 04, 2011 15:43:00 Some Indigenous women from the Northern Territory have made a public appeal against moves to legalise gay marriage. The Australian Christian Lobby organised a forum in Darwin on Thursday night about the Greens push to change current marriage laws. At the meeting two Aboriginal women raised cultural concerns about the impact of the change. Connie Nungarrayi Walit says allowing gay marriage conflicts with both Christian principles and Aboriginal law. "I feel really very strong about this you know," she says. "Because it can't be taken away from us. "It's a law that we feel comfortable with, we fit in. "Without it we're nothing."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-04/indigenous-women-say-no-to-gay-marriage/1929686


Aborigines under attack by leftwads.

... wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Quote: Indigenous women say no to gay marriage Anna Henderson Updated February 04, 2011 15:43:00 Some Indigenous women from the Northern Territory have made a public appeal against moves to legalise gay marriage. The Australian Christian Lobby organised a forum in Darwin on Thursday night about the Greens push to change current marriage laws. At the meeting two Aboriginal women raised cultural concerns about the impact of the change. Connie Nungarrayi Walit says allowing gay marriage conflicts with both Christian principles and Aboriginal law. "I feel really very strong about this you know," she says. "Because it can't be taken away from us. "It's a law that we feel comfortable with, we fit in. "Without it we're nothing." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-04/indigenous-women-say-no-to-gay-marriage/1929686 Aborigines under attack by leftwads.

Aboriginals are not being pressured to marry against their will


Yet they are being forced off their land by the Right.

Quote:

"Without it we're nothing."

Just think about that for a moment greeny.   

I would have thought you progressives had done enough to them with the stolen generation, now you want to make them "nothing".

... wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 10:50am:

Quote: "Without it we're nothing." Just think about that for a moment greeny.    I would have thought you progressives had done enough to them with the stolen generation, now you want to make them "nothing".

It's the Right in Queensland that are attacking Aboriginals


And who thought up the racist intervention in the Northern Territory ... the Right?

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 10:54am:

... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:50am: Quote: "Without it we're nothing." Just think about that for a moment greeny.    I would have thought you progressives had done enough to them with the stolen generation, now you want to make them "nothing". It's the Right in Queensland that are attacking Aboriginals And who thought up the racist intervention in the Northern Territory ... the Right?

Just becasue "the other team" did something you disagree with, doesn't give you a license to add to their misery.  Do 2 wrongs make a right greens?

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 8:42am:

The Native People are under assault by the new sir jons of Queensland ... and he is silent of the Rights attack . You are a sell out Mister Tensions build in Brisbane's Musgrave Park as police expected to clear 'Brisbane Sovereign Embassy' http://www.news.com.au/national/tensions-build-in-brisbanes-musgrave-park-as-police-expected-to-clear-brisbane-sovereign-embassy/story-e6frfkw9-1226357227128 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tatl1PBYim4

Two points:
They're camping illegally.
They are being moved on because the Greek Paniyiri festival is about to be held there.

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

Yet they are being forced off their land by the Right.

It's a public park, not their land you idiot.  ;D

BigOl64 wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 10:03am:

longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:58am: the latest edition of... "Idiot vs idiot" Like two kids from the 'Special School' trying to win at Trivial Persuit.  ;D

Ah, the mocking of the disabled by such a mighty warrior as yourself. Such fun.

... wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:07am:

____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:54am: ... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:50am: Quote: "Without it we're nothing." Just think about that for a moment greeny.    I would have thought you progressives had done enough to them with the stolen generation, now you want to make them "nothing". It's the Right in Queensland that are attacking Aboriginals And who thought up the racist intervention in the Northern Territory ... the Right? Just becasue "the other team" did something you disagree with, doesn't give you a license to add to their misery.  Do 2 wrongs make a right greens?

Can you prove that a campaign for human equality is adding to aboriginal misery?


if not, that just leaves the Right adding to Aboriginal challenges.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:11am:

____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:42am: The Native People are under assault by the new sir jons of Queensland ... and he is silent of the Rights attack . You are a sell out Mister Tensions build in Brisbane's Musgrave Park as police expected to clear 'Brisbane Sovereign Embassy' http://www.news.com.au/national/tensions-build-in-brisbanes-musgrave-park-as-police-expected-to-clear-brisbane-sovereign-embassy/story-e6frfkw9-1226357227128 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tatl1PBYim4 Two points: They're camping illegally. They are being moved on because the Greek Paniyiri festival is about to be held there.

How can you be camping illegally on your own land.

And can we move the American or Chinese Embassy, on a Right wing whim?

BigOl64 wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:18am:

____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:41am: Yet they are being forced off their land by the Right. It's a public park, not their land you idiot.  ;D

Are you saying no humans were living here before the european invasion?

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:07am: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:54am: ... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:50am: Quote: "Without it we're nothing." Just think about that for a moment greeny.    I would have thought you progressives had done enough to them with the stolen generation, now you want to make them "nothing". It's the Right in Queensland that are attacking Aboriginals And who thought up the racist intervention in the Northern Territory ... the Right? Just becasue "the other team" did something you disagree with, doesn't give you a license to add to their misery.  Do 2 wrongs make a right greens? Can you prove that a campaign for human equality is adding to aboriginal misery?

Yes.


Quote:

Connie Nungarrayi Walit says allowing gay marriage conflicts with both Christian principles and Aboriginal law. "I feel really very strong about this you know," she says. "Because it can't be taken away from us. "It's a law that we feel comfortable with, we fit in. "Without it we're nothing."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-04/indigenous-women-say-no-to-gay-marriage/1929686

Annie Anthrax wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:19am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:03am: longweekend58 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:58am: the latest edition of... "Idiot vs idiot" Like two kids from the 'Special School' trying to win at Trivial Pursuit.  ;D Ah, the mocking of the disabled by such a mighty warrior as yourself. Such fun.

I don't think corpulent whitey and greens_wank like being called disabled; the politically correct term is intellectually handi-capable.


It is an inspiration to all of us here on this board to watch these two powerhouses of rational thought conduct themselves with dignity and decorum as they use what little god gave them to prove to all of us that they too are 'special'.


A round of applause, please

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____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:22am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:18am: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:41am: Yet they are being forced off their land by the Right. It's a public park, not their land you idiot.  ;D Are you saying no humans were living here before the european invasion?

One has frig all to do with the other; murris don't 'own' everything. They 'own' what they have native title over.

And public parks are not part of native title, moron.

... wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:32am:

____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:20am: ... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:07am: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:54am: ... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:50am: Quote: "Without it we're nothing." Just think about that for a moment greeny.    I would have thought you progressives had done enough to them with the stolen generation, now you want to make them "nothing". It's the Right in Queensland that are attacking Aboriginals And who thought up the racist intervention in the Northern Territory ... the Right? Just becasue "the other team" did something you disagree with, doesn't give you a license to add to their misery.  Do 2 wrongs make a right greens? Can you prove that a campaign for human equality is adding to aboriginal misery? Yes. [quote] Connie Nungarrayi Walit says allowing gay marriage conflicts with both Christian principles and Aboriginal law. "I feel really very strong about this you know," she says. "Because it can't be taken away from us. "It's a law that we feel comfortable with, we fit in. "Without it we're nothing."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-04/indigenous-women-say-no-to-gay-marriage/1929686


[/quote]


Some women organised by the Right's lobby group.

That is all you have?


lightweight.

BigOl64 wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:39am:

____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:22am: BigOl64 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:18am: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:41am: Yet they are being forced off their land by the Right. It's a public park, not their land you idiot.  ;D Are you saying no humans were living here before the european invasion? One has frig all to do with the other; murris don't 'own' everything. They 'own' what they have native title over. And public parks are not part of native title, moron.

You are claiming a park when it is stolen property.

So if someone comes in, evicts you and take over the property, it is then theirs?

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:22am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:11am: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:42am: The Native People are under assault by the new sir jons of Queensland ... and he is silent of the Rights attack . You are a sell out Mister Tensions build in Brisbane's Musgrave Park as police expected to clear 'Brisbane Sovereign Embassy' http://www.news.com.au/national/tensions-build-in-brisbanes-musgrave-park-as-police-expected-to-clear-brisbane-sovereign-embassy/story-e6frfkw9-1226357227128 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tatl1PBYim4 Two points: They're camping illegally. They are being moved on because the Greek Paniyiri festival is about to be held there. How can you be camping illegally on your own land. And can we move the American or Chinese Embassy, on a Right wing whim?

It's council land.
Australia was conquered by the British.
To the victor goes the spoils.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:48am:

____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:22am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:11am: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:42am: The Native People are under assault by the new sir jons of Queensland ... and he is silent of the Rights attack . You are a sell out Mister Tensions build in Brisbane's Musgrave Park as police expected to clear 'Brisbane Sovereign Embassy' http://www.news.com.au/national/tensions-build-in-brisbanes-musgrave-park-as-police-expected-to-clear-brisbane-sovereign-embassy/story-e6frfkw9-1226357227128 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tatl1PBYim4 Two points: They're camping illegally. They are being moved on because the Greek Paniyiri festival is about to be held there. How can you be camping illegally on your own land. And can we move the American or Chinese Embassy, on a Right wing whim? It's council land. Australia was conquered by the British. To the victor goes the spoils.

Those that live by the sword, die by the sword.

So why do some complain about migrants that come to Australia, and then expect Australians to live by their rules.

Why do some complain about more boats when boats invaded in the first place.



Should the Right flip flop and now support boat refugees.

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:44am:

You are claiming a park when it is stolen property. So if someone comes in, evicts you and take over the property, it is then theirs?

See you would think I would know better.

I was arguing a point of law and you are arguing a point of stupidity.

Stupidity thinks it wins every time.


Now go put your helmet on and go outside and play with the rest of the kids.

The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey.

When will you condemn the Right?

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 8:16pm:

The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right?

So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park?

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 8:42am:

The Native People are under assault by the new sir jons of Queensland ... and he is silent of the Rights attack . You are a sell out Mister Tensions build in Brisbane's Musgrave Park as police expected to clear 'Brisbane Sovereign Embassy' http://www.news.com.au/national/tensions-build-in-brisbanes-musgrave-park-as-police-expected-to-clear-brisbane-sovereign-embassy/story-e6frfkw9-1226357227128 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tatl1PBYim4

He is an irrelevant goose that has no rational line of thinking so don't expect him to understand anything. help is what CW needs.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 9:40pm:

____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park?

The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work.

And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 8:17am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals

Are you absolutely sure they were 'happy' to have a bunch of angry murris protesting at their festival or might you entertain the idea they may have felt intimidated into saying so.

Ever seen what happens to a left wing ideologue when you don't agree with everything they say and do, well same for murris.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 8:17am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals

You lose the debate because of a Godwin and a reduction to Hitler.

Read about it here and educate yourself:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336608361/0#0

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:17am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals You lose the debate because of a Godwin and a reduction to Hitler. Read about it here and educate yourself: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336608361/0#0

Red Herring

The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals.

This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games.

Typical of the far right.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:08am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:59am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:17am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals You lose the debate because of a Godwin and a reduction to Hitler. Read about it here and educate yourself: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336608361/0#0 Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right.

It's not a Red Herring. It was to point out that just yelling Hitler and dictator crap isn't a reasoned argument; it's emotional gibberish meant sway those who have the emotional and intellectual maturity of a 7 year old.

There's no picking between whitey and Abo's. They're contravening council laws and are being dispersed accordingly. If you believe they have a right to be there then, by your own logic, you are the racist. It's one rule for Abo's and one for everyone else. 

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:18am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:08am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:59am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:17am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals You lose the debate because of a Godwin and a reduction to Hitler. Read about it here and educate yourself: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336608361/0#0 Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right. It's not a Red Herring. It was to point out that just yelling Hitler and dictator crap isn't a reasoned argument; it's emotional gibberish meant sway those who have the emotional and intellectual maturity of a 7 year old. There's no picking between whitey and Abo's. They're contravening council laws and are being dispersed accordingly. If you believe they have a right to be there then, by your own logic, you are the racist. It's one rule for Abo's and one for everyone else.

Newman is showing himself as a dictator.

Last weekend he negotiated with the elders for the embassy to stay ... then a few days later, he hides behind the police and orders them to charge in and arrest.

If not a dictator, how would you describe Newman's approach?

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:22am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:18am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:08am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:59am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:17am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals You lose the debate because of a Godwin and a reduction to Hitler. Read about it here and educate yourself: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336608361/0#0 Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right. It's not a Red Herring. It was to point out that just yelling Hitler and dictator crap isn't a reasoned argument; it's emotional gibberish meant sway those who have the emotional and intellectual maturity of a 7 year old. There's no picking between whitey and Abo's. They're contravening council laws and are being dispersed accordingly. If you believe they have a right to be there then, by your own logic, you are the racist. It's one rule for Abo's and one for everyone else.  Newman is showing himself as a dictator. Last weekend he negotiated with the elders for the embassy to stay ... then a few days later, he hides behind the police and orders them to charge in and arrest. If not a dictator, how would you describe Newman's approach?

He's doing what anyone who wants to uphold the law do: Removing vagrants from council land.

Those arrested weren't even charged. They were let go around 3:00 that afternoon. How's that a dictatorship?

Do you know in Turkey they can hold you in prison without trial for years if you speak badly of the state? That's closer to a dictatorship.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:32am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:22am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:18am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:08am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:59am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:17am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals You lose the debate because of a Godwin and a reduction to Hitler. Read about it here and educate yourself: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336608361/0#0 Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right. It's not a Red Herring. It was to point out that just yelling Hitler and dictator crap isn't a reasoned argument; it's emotional gibberish meant sway those who have the emotional and intellectual maturity of a 7 year old. There's no picking between whitey and Abo's. They're contravening council laws and are being dispersed accordingly. If you believe they have a right to be there then, by your own logic, you are the racist. It's one rule for Abo's and one for everyone else.  Newman is showing himself as a dictator. Last weekend he negotiated with the elders for the embassy to stay ... then a few days later, he hides behind the police and orders them to charge in and arrest. If not a dictator, how would you describe Newman's approach? He's doing what anyone who wants to uphold the law do: Removing vagrants from council land. Those arrested weren't even charged. They were let go around 3:00 that afternoon. How's that a dictatorship? Do you know in Turkey they can hold you in prison without trial for years if you speak badly of the state? That's closer to a dictatorship.

We are not talking Turkey, we are talking Brisvagas, Queensland and a premier who negotiated one thing and then goes against his word.

Newman is a tyrant that can not be trusted.


Queenslanders will wake up to the mistake they have made ... wil it before repeating their mistake at a federal level.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:39am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:32am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:22am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:18am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:08am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:59am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:17am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals You lose the debate because of a Godwin and a reduction to Hitler. Read about it here and educate yourself: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336608361/0#0 Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right. It's not a Red Herring. It was to point out that just yelling Hitler and dictator crap isn't a reasoned argument; it's emotional gibberish meant sway those who have the emotional and intellectual maturity of a 7 year old. There's no picking between whitey and Abo's. They're contravening council laws and are being dispersed accordingly. If you believe they have a right to be there then, by your own logic, you are the racist. It's one rule for Abo's and one for everyone else.  Newman is showing himself as a dictator. Last weekend he negotiated with the elders for the embassy to stay ... then a few days later, he hides behind the police and orders them to charge in and arrest. If not a dictator, how would you describe Newman's approach? He's doing what anyone who wants to uphold the law do: Removing vagrants from council land. Those arrested weren't even charged. They were let go around 3:00 that afternoon. How's that a dictatorship? Do you know in Turkey they can hold you in prison without trial for years if you speak badly of the state? That's closer to a dictatorship. We are not talking Turkey, we are talking Brisvagas, Queensland and a premier who negotiated one thing and then goes against his word. Newman is a tyrant that can not be trusted. Queenslanders will wake up to the mistake they have made ... wil it before repeating their mistake at a federal level.

We're talking 'dicataors' I thought so comparing how different countries deal with dissidents is completely valid.

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:39am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:32am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:22am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:18am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:08am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:59am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:17am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals You lose the debate because of a Godwin and a reduction to Hitler. Read about it here and educate yourself: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336608361/0#0 Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right. It's not a Red Herring. It was to point out that just yelling Hitler and dictator crap isn't a reasoned argument; it's emotional gibberish meant sway those who have the emotional and intellectual maturity of a 7 year old. There's no picking between whitey and Abo's. They're contravening council laws and are being dispersed accordingly. If you believe they have a right to be there then, by your own logic, you are the racist. It's one rule for Abo's and one for everyone else.  Newman is showing himself as a dictator. Last weekend he negotiated with the elders for the embassy to stay ... then a few days later, he hides behind the police and orders them to charge in and arrest. If not a dictator, how would you describe Newman's approach? He's doing what anyone who wants to uphold the law do: Removing vagrants from council land. Those arrested weren't even charged. They were let go around 3:00 that afternoon. How's that a dictatorship? Do you know in Turkey they can hold you in prison without trial for years if you speak badly of the state? That's closer to a dictatorship. We are not talking Turkey, we are talking Brisvagas, Queensland and a premier who negotiated one thing and then goes against his word. Newman is a tyrant that can not be trusted. Queenslanders will wake up to the mistake they have made ... wil it before repeating their mistake at a federal level. We're talking 'dicataors' I thought so comparing how different countries deal with dissidents is completely valid.

Chalk and Cheese.



If we are to compare dictatorship then Sir Joh V Newman would be the better comparison suited.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:57am:

Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:45am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:39am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:32am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:22am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:18am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:08am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 9:59am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 8:17am: Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 9:40pm: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 8:16pm: The Native People are still waiting on you Whitey. When will you condemn the Right? So what about the Greek festival to be held at Musgrave park? The organisers of the Green Festival were happy for the Embassy to stay where it was ... so was Dictator Newman, last weekend, and then he flopped and sent in the police to do his dirty work. And Whitey supports right wing dictators over Aboriginals You lose the debate because of a Godwin and a reduction to Hitler. Read about it here and educate yourself: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1336608361/0#0 Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right. It's not a Red Herring. It was to point out that just yelling Hitler and dictator crap isn't a reasoned argument; it's emotional gibberish meant sway those who have the emotional and intellectual maturity of a 7 year old. There's no picking between whitey and Abo's. They're contravening council laws and are being dispersed accordingly. If you believe they have a right to be there then, by your own logic, you are the racist. It's one rule for Abo's and one for everyone else.  Newman is showing himself as a dictator. Last weekend he negotiated with the elders for the embassy to stay ... then a few days later, he hides behind the police and orders them to charge in and arrest. If not a dictator, how would you describe Newman's approach? He's doing what anyone who wants to uphold the law do: Removing vagrants from council land. Those arrested weren't even charged. They were let go around 3:00 that afternoon. How's that a dictatorship? Do you know in Turkey they can hold you in prison without trial for years if you speak badly of the state? That's closer to a dictatorship. We are not talking Turkey, we are talking Brisvagas, Queensland and a premier who negotiated one thing and then goes against his word. Newman is a tyrant that can not be trusted. Queenslanders will wake up to the mistake they have made ... wil it before repeating their mistake at a federal level. We're talking 'dicataors' I thought so comparing how different countries deal with dissidents is completely valid. Chalk and Cheese. If we are to compare dictatorship then Sir Joh V Newman would be the better comparison suited.

I see, so the term 'dictator' means something different from country to country. Then all your references to Hitler mean nothing.
You lose, again.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:08am:

Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right.

Absolutely correct.

Just like when the QLD greens got to choose between saving the mary valley endangered species or playing politics for preferences. They took the obvious route and happily supported labor.

Typical of the environmental vandals masquerading as greenies

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:04am:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:08am: Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right. Absolutely correct. Just like when the QLD greens got to choose between saving the mary valley endangered species or playing politics for preferences. They took the obvious route and happily supported labor. Typical of the environmental vandals masquerading as greenies

Choice between destruction of Queensland via the LNP ... or fighting on a federal level against the dam.

The correct choice was made ... the dam was stopped.


Meanwhile Whitey remains a sell out of Aboriginals, for his beloved Right.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:26pm:

Choice between destruction of Queensland via the LNP ... or fighting on a federal level against the dam. The correct choice was made ... the dam was stopped.

The dam was stopped by federal labor, with absolutely no effort by the greens to stop the dam.

The correct choice has been made, 7 labor politicians and 0 greens politicians.

Remember at no time did the greens make any effort to stop labor form destroying the Mary valley, so they like CW are complicit in this crime.

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:41pm:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:26pm: Choice between destruction of Queensland via the LNP ... or fighting on a federal level against the dam. The correct choice was made ... the dam was stopped. The dam was stopped by federal labor, with absolutely no effort by the greens to stop the dam. The correct choice has been made, 7 labor politicians and 0 greens politicians. Remember at no time did the greens make any effort to stop labor form destroying the Mary valley, so they like CW are complicit in this crime.

Are you sure.

Even Abbott admits Labor is in government, Greens are in Power.

Greens move in mysterious ways ... mysterious to the old parties, that is.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:49pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:41pm: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:26pm: Choice between destruction of Queensland via the LNP ... or fighting on a federal level against the dam. The correct choice was made ... the dam was stopped. The dam was stopped by federal labor, with absolutely no effort by the greens to stop the dam. The correct choice has been made, 7 labor politicians and 0 greens politicians. Remember at no time did the greens make any effort to stop labor form destroying the Mary valley, so they like CW are complicit in this crime. Are you sure. Even Abbott admits Labor is in government, Greens are in Power. Greens move in mysterious ways ... mysterious to the old parties, that is.

Even you have to admit abbott is an idiot, so what he says is just crap

The greens are nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites that when given the opportunity to save 3 endangered species and a group of communities from total destruction they chose to be political opportunists.

They didn't even require labor to rethink the dam for their preferences, they were handed over free of charge.

Result several communities nearly destroyed, hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars wasted all for a dam that should NEVER even been considered and would not have been if it wasn't for the greens.

Crimes of Western Government, Aristocracy, the Corporate Maggot, the Green & the ALP

1.  Terra Nullis
2.  Aboriginal dispossession around the world
3. Crimes of imperialism against every nation on earth and mass genocide
4. Attrocities against working class whites in the UK and in every continent the Western Governments declared Terra Nullis and stole.

Now let me tell you this - the Western Government is the seat of all evil and corruption throughout history - all filth, vice, puss, venerial disease, whore mongering, vice trading, slavery racism, classism, exploitation, puss and venereal disease traces back to the western government and its aristocracy.  Believe not a word they say

These people are what they seem, lying corrupt evil dogs.. :P

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:49pm: BigOl64 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:41pm: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:26pm: Choice between destruction of Queensland via the LNP ... or fighting on a federal level against the dam. The correct choice was made ... the dam was stopped. The dam was stopped by federal labor, with absolutely no effort by the greens to stop the dam. The correct choice has been made, 7 labor politicians and 0 greens politicians. Remember at no time did the greens make any effort to stop labor form destroying the Mary valley, so they like CW are complicit in this crime. Are you sure. Even Abbott admits Labor is in government, Greens are in Power. Greens move in mysterious ways ... mysterious to the old parties, that is. Even you have to admit abbott is an idiot, so what he says is just crap The greens are nothing more than a bunch of hypocrites that when given the opportunity to save 3 endangered species and a group of communities from total destruction they chose to be political opportunists. They didn't even require labor to rethink the dam for their preferences, they were handed over free of charge. Result several communities nearly destroyed, hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars wasted all for a dam that should NEVER even been considered and would not have been if it wasn't for the greens.

don't agree with anything you just posted.

Abbott is not an idiot and anyone who underestimates the length he will go to to get his own way is the fool. His policy of making himself a small target is a good policy in that it fools a large percentage of Australians into looking to where he directs the.

His method is not a long term method, that is why he is desperate for an election before enough wake up to being conned by him.

Time is now running out.



Now to revisit your view on Mary River Dam.

Greens did not preference Labor in that electorate because of.

and that Qld election was not a referendum on the dam.

Greens looked over both old parties policies and preferenced accordingly.

I understand you have no viable ammunition to fire at the Greens so have to drag out old chestnuts. Must be a bastard supporting your side of politics, where untruths are the order of the day.

corporate_whitey wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 2:18pm:

Crimes of Western Government, Aristocracy, the Corporate Maggot, the Green & the ALP 1.  Terra Nullis 2.  Aboriginal dispossession around the world 3. Crimes of imperialism against every nation on earth and mass genocide 4. Attrocities against working class whites in the UK and in every continent the Western Governments declared Terra Nullis and stole. Now let me tell you this - the Western Government is the seat of all evil and corruption throughout history - all filth, vice, puss, venerial disease, whore mongering, vice trading, slavery racism, classism, exploitation, puss and venereal disease traces back to the western government and its aristocracy.  Believe not a word they say These people are what they seem, lying corrupt evil dogs.. :P

OMG, the gutless whitey decides to post after 24hrs of avoidance.

Heats gone off so you can now pretend you are not one of those maggot infested internet Liberal Party Posters.

Your cover is blown mister. You back the Right's attack on Aboriginals.

Ask yourself this simple question...why is it the Greens goal to declare a global Terra Nullus, to abolish all Native Title and homeland claims and declare all continents on Earth No Mans Land under one global Government... 8-)

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

... wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:39am: Quote: Indigenous women say no to gay marriage Anna Henderson Updated February 04, 2011 15:43:00 Some Indigenous women from the Northern Territory have made a public appeal against moves to legalise gay marriage. The Australian Christian Lobby organised a forum in Darwin on Thursday night about the Greens push to change current marriage laws. At the meeting two Aboriginal women raised cultural concerns about the impact of the change. Connie Nungarrayi Walit says allowing gay marriage conflicts with both Christian principles and Aboriginal law. "I feel really very strong about this you know," she says. "Because it can't be taken away from us. "It's a law that we feel comfortable with, we fit in. "Without it we're nothing." http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-02-04/indigenous-women-say-no-to-gay-marriage/1929686 Aborigines under attack by leftwads. Aboriginals are not being pressured to marry against their will Yet they are being forced off their land by the Right.

It's not 'their' land.
It's a public park, and no one group of people can monopolise council assets to the exclusion of all others irrespective of their claims or the colour of their skin.
And neither is anyone allowed to camp in council parks.
Period.
Rules is rules, and it's not the 'right' that is enforcing the law.
It's the police, who have no political affiliation.
And the police are paid to enforce the law.

____ wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 11:44am:

BigOl64 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:39am: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:22am: BigOl64 wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 11:18am: ____ wrote on May 16th, 2012 at 10:41am: Yet they are being forced off their land by the Right. It's a public park, not their land you idiot.  ;D Are you saying no humans were living here before the european invasion? One has frig all to do with the other; murris don't 'own' everything. They 'own' what they have native title over. And public parks are not part of native title, moron. You are claiming a park when it is stolen property. So if someone comes in, evicts you and take over the property, it is then theirs?

It's only been that way for a millenia green.
Are we learning yet?

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 2:28pm:

Now to revisit your view on Mary River Dam. Greens did not preference Labor in that electorate because of. and that Qld election was not a referendum on the dam. Greens looked over both old parties policies and preferenced accordingly. I understand you have no viable ammunition to fire at the Greens so have to drag out old chestnuts. Must be a bastard supporting your side of politics, where untruths are the order of the day.

To say that the greens were against the dam but fully supported the government building the dam is disingenuous to say the least.

Labor had 14 marginal seats that needed to be secured to win government and build the dam, the greens fully supported them in all 14.

Labor would have never even had a snowflakes chance in hell winning in the mary valley so a lack of support by the greens is irrelevant.

BTW the greens must have also known about labors support for coal seam gas and the damage it does to farmland, but still they supported lanor to win government.

If they weren't such a pack of lying bastards, they should have preferenced no-one or at least made their support conditional on implementing good environmental policy; they did nothing but hand labor a free ride to destroy our environment and our economy.

Well done, greens at least we know where you stand on protecting the environment; where the money is.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 1:26pm:

BigOl64 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:04am: ____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:08am: Red Herring The crux of this thread is Whitey pretends to support the Aboriginals ... yet when it is a choice between his beloved right wing and Aboriginals ... he dumps Aboriginals. This reveals his job here .. he is a right wing stooge trying to playing games. Typical of the far right. Absolutely correct. Just like when the QLD greens got to choose between saving the mary valley endangered species or playing politics for preferences. They took the obvious route and happily supported labor. Typical of the environmental vandals masquerading as greenies Choice between destruction of Queensland via the LNP ... or fighting on a federal level against the dam. The correct choice was made ... the dam was stopped. Meanwhile Whitey remains a sell out of Aboriginals, for his beloved Right.

I voted yes in sympathy of you Green - now why has your racist party committed to Abolishing native title around the world through a global Terra Nullis "No Mans Land"? 8-)

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 2:46pm:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 2:28pm: Now to revisit your view on Mary River Dam. Greens did not preference Labor in that electorate because of. and that Qld election was not a referendum on the dam. Greens looked over both old parties policies and preferenced accordingly. I understand you have no viable ammunition to fire at the Greens so have to drag out old chestnuts. Must be a bastard supporting your side of politics, where untruths are the order of the day. To say that the greens were against the dam but fully supported the government building the dam is disingenuous to say the least. Labor had 14 marginal seats that needed to be secured to win government and build the dam, the greens fully supported them in all 14. Labor would have never even had a snowflakes chance in hell winning in the mary valley so a lack of support by the greens is irrelevant. BTW the greens must have also known about labors support for coal seam gas and the damage it does to farmland, but still they supported lanor to win government. If they weren't such a pack of lying bastards, they should have preferenced no-one or at least made their support conditional on implementing good environmental policy; they did nothing but hand labor a free ride to destroy our environment and our economy. Well done, greens at least we know where you stand on protecting the environment; where the money is.

Finished your little rant.

Greens preferenced on the decision of all the policies of both old parties.

Even with the risk of destruction by Labor, Labor's polices across the board where superior to Liberal and Nationals.

That is why Qld voted Labor back in.

Rather than trying to blame Greens for the conservatives losing ... go to the cause.

The Conservatives.

Suck it in and take responsibility for grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:12pm:

Finished your little rant. Greens preferenced on the decision of all the policies of both old parties. Even with the risk of destruction by Labor, Labor's polices across the board where superior to Liberal and Nationals. That is why Qld voted Labor back in. Rather than trying to blame Greens for the conservatives losing ... go to the cause. The Conservatives. Suck it in and take responsibility for grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory.

You're a fool

I don't give a rat's toss about the LNP winning or losing, what goes around comes around in politics as can be seen from the last election, there is always a price to pay for bad government.

What I absolutely cared about was the mary valley, its people and the environment; something that neither the greens or labor gave much thought.

What was done to the valley was unforgivable.



It will be a long, long time before labor gains control of Queensland and the greens have proven what they care about, they will hopefully NEVER get a seat in QLD parliament.

BigOl64 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:27pm:

____ wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 3:12pm: Finished your little rant. Greens preferenced on the decision of all the policies of both old parties. Even with the risk of destruction by Labor, Labor's polices across the board where superior to Liberal and Nationals. That is why Qld voted Labor back in. Rather than trying to blame Greens for the conservatives losing ... go to the cause. The Conservatives. Suck it in and take responsibility for grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory. You're a fool I don't give a rat's toss about the LNP winning or losing, what goes around comes around in politics as can be seen from the last election, there is always a price to pay for bad government. What I absolutely cared about was the mary valley, its people and the environment; something that neither the greens or labor gave much thought. What was done to the valley was unforgivable. It will be a long, long time before labor gains control of Queensland and the greens have proven what they care about, they will hopefully NEVER get a seat in QLD parliament.

The Dam didn't go ahead so crocodile tears don't cut it.

You are just holding on to this in a vain attempt to find fault where no fault lays.

Stop blaming Greens for Labor's policies.

____ wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 3:31pm:

The Dam didn't go ahead so crocodile tears don't cut it. You are just holding on to this in a vain attempt to find fault where no fault lays. Stop blaming Greens for Labor's policies.

If it wasn't for the greens supporting labor's policies the mary valley would not have been devastated.

Just because the dam didn't go ahead doesn't mean the place wasn't severely damaged by the greens actions.

Hundreds of millions of dollars lost, massive increases in suicides, families homes lost, communities ripped apart all because the greens believed that labor was a good bet.

Well they weren't, not even close and this would not have happened if it wasn't for the greens.

And like the typical scumbags they are they deny responsibility and blame everything on labor, well guess what; the people of QLD know what labor did and who helped them.

Why do you think that in the biggest election upset in the history of QLD, the greens did not even come close to winning a single seat?

There is always a price to pay especially if you don't accept responsibility.


BTW, I lived in the mary valley for 7 years an absolute paradise, so don't think my anger is just 'crocodile tears' it is real and like most other QLDers, we will make labor and the greens pay for a long time.