This gay marriage issue is just another small target politics the Greens wants to focus on.

In an interview with Joe Hockey yesterday Penny Wong interesting said

http://au.news.yahoo.com/latest/a/-/latest/13683810/kids-need-a-mum-and-dad-hockey/

"When you say those things Joe, what you are saying not just to me but people like me is the most important thing in our lives, which is the people we love, is less good, less valued.



"people like me"???

If you are going to use those words on yourself Penny then don't expect others to respect your message.

If the ALP are so gung-ho about it then take it to the next election.

If Penny believes in it so much then join the Greens and fight the cause. She won't because her political career is more important than her conviction for gay marriages.

If the Greens think the majority of Australians are all for it then force the ALP's hands.

Facts are the ALP are not going to do it. Neither will the LIBs.

This is where I support Gillard's and Abbott's opinion on it.

Over to you Ms Wong!

Greens are more than a one policy party.


Sure Libs are, doesn't mean the rest of us should follow the economic illiterate libs down the financial drain.

____ wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:39am:

Greens are more than a one policy party. Sure Libs are, doesn't mean the rest of us should follow the economic illiterate libs down the financial drain.

The Greens would increase the cost of living for millions of families.
The Greens would remove tax benefits used by millions of families.
The Greens would increase the tax rate for millions of families.

The Greens would threaten industries which employ millions of families.

The Greens are extremists. They cannot get anywhere close the vote of the mainstream and unless they change their policies to become more mainstream - they will never, ever threaten to govern in their own right.

The same penny Wong who said she didn't support gay marriage at the last election?

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:41am:

____ wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:39am: Greens are more than a one policy party. Sure Libs are, doesn't mean the rest of us should follow the economic illiterate libs down the financial drain. The Greens would increase the cost of living for millions of families. The Greens would remove tax benefits used by millions of families. The Greens would increase the tax rate for millions of families. The Greens would threaten industries which employ millions of families. The Greens are extremists. They cannot get anywhere close the vote of the mainstream and unless they change their policies to become more mainstream - they will never, ever threaten to govern in their own right.

And don't forget the big one ... Greens will take away puppies from your children ... and eat them.

The same penny Wong who said she didn't support gay marriage at the last election?

If its so important then take it to an election!

Not exactly the same advice that Macca was giving John Howard re: Workchoices.

Verge wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:48am:

The same penny Wong who said she didn't support gay marriage at the last election?

You know. Some ppl change their minds. It happens. Especially in politics. That being said I doubt she has changed her mind. She supported it all along but it was her job to not support it because of her political alliances.

SOB

Verge wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

The same penny Wong who said she didn't support gay marriage at the last election?

and has always supported gutless gillard...on everything.. she has my full support..HA.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:56am:

Verge wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:48am: The same penny Wong who said she didn't support gay marriage at the last election? You know. Some ppl change their minds. It happens. Especially in politics. That being said I doubt she has changed her mind. She supported it all along but it was her job to not support it because of her political alliances. SOB

what you are really saying is its okay for gutless gillard to change her mind..


THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD..


but god help Abbott if he has a change of mind..

Dnarever wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

If its so important then take it to an election! Not exactly the same advice that Macca was giving John Howard re: Workchoices.

was Howard in a hung govt???????


come on dna every post you mention the Libs.. it has become more and more obvious you support two wrongs making a right..


sorry but I dont...


of course the Howard govt made mistakes so did Hawke and keating,.. do we keep compounding those mistakes though..

fancy bringing up about the Howard govt get over it we have had 5 years of hell unbalanced. unaccountability froma dysfunctional govt...


we never ever had this during the Howard years,,, THOMO SLIPPER. pinkbatts fuel watch.green loans black boxes it goes on and on..

cods wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:59am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:56am: Verge wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:48am: The same penny Wong who said she didn't support gay marriage at the last election? You know. Some ppl change their minds. It happens. Especially in politics. That being said I doubt she has changed her mind. She supported it all along but it was her job to not support it because of her political alliances. SOB what you are really saying is its okay for gutless gillard to change her mind.. THERE WILL BE NO CARBON TAX UNDER A GOVT I LEAD.. but god help Abbott if he has a change of mind..

No. What I am really saying is that its okay for penny wong to change her mind. Gillard is a different animal. She is PM. Its wongs job to support her party and their stances. Dont tell me what I mean.

SOB

Verge wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:48am:

The same penny Wong who said she didn't support gay marriage at the last election?

Yeah but she said she didn't support it, of course she actually meant that she did.

I think that's how it works.

Who can tell these days.

Shower of liars, the lot of them.

____ wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:48am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:41am: ____ wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:39am: Greens are more than a one policy party. Sure Libs are, doesn't mean the rest of us should follow the economic illiterate libs down the financial drain. The Greens would increase the cost of living for millions of families. The Greens would remove tax benefits used by millions of families. The Greens would increase the tax rate for millions of families. The Greens would threaten industries which employ millions of families. The Greens are extremists. They cannot get anywhere close the vote of the mainstream and unless they change their policies to become more mainstream - they will never, ever threaten to govern in their own right. And don't forget the big one ... Greens will take away puppies from your children ... and eat them.

yes or no on these woody -

Greens will increase the tax rate for the middle to upper incomes?

Greens will remove fringe benefit taxes?

Greens will begin closing down the coal industry?


My info comes from on the record statements from the Greens.

Penny Wong owned the show once again last night.
Calm, respectful, intelligent in fact everything you wish politicians were, Joe wasn't too bad either.

Maqqa as usual saw Penny cutting last remark to Joe saw it could be interpreted badly for the libs so has decided a'la Bill Shorten on the preemptive strike against Wong.

Nice Maqqa earnt your cheque this week.

Verge I thought you understood things a little deeper than this "She opposed Gay Marriage"
She ran the party line, as all politicians do, Abbott would ban abortion yet he follows party lines of a womens choice, is he a liar like your accusing Wong of being?
You want to go back to Q&A last year where Richo(of all people) put a sterling defense of Wong and Gay issues up.
To paraphrase,
How is ostracizing yourself out of the decision making process smart?
Why not work quietly from within & achieve change?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9hM--P_9BQ

start watching from 4.50 mark

Smithy you know Penny Wong will not appeal to the mainstream of Australia for several reasons.

No need to go massively into them here and now, but she will not ever be PM for those reasons.

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:38am:

Smithy you know Penny Wong will not appeal to the mainstream of Australia for several reasons. No need to go massively into them here and now, but she will not ever be PM for those reasons.

Yes I understand that she is still a bridge too far.
Pity we can't seem to find a "HETRO" with her demeanor and intelligence, well one that has not been ostracized by their party.

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:41am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:38am: Smithy you know Penny Wong will not appeal to the mainstream of Australia for several reasons. No need to go massively into them here and now, but she will not ever be PM for those reasons. Yes I understand that she is still a bridge too far. Pity we can't seem to find a "HETRO" with her demeanor and intelligence, well one that has not been ostracized by their party.

She is the Golden Gate + The Humber + The Brooklyn too far.

Dnarever wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:53am:

If its so important then take it to an election! Not exactly the same advice that Macca was giving John Howard re: Workchoices.

He did and lost

So will Gillard with the Carbon Tax

So will Wong if she contest the next election on gay marriages

Maqqa wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 1:09pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:53am: If its so important then take it to an election! Not exactly the same advice that Macca was giving John Howard re: Workchoices. He did and lost So will Gillard with the Carbon Tax So will Wong if she contest the next election on gay marriages

gay marriage eont be much of an election topic. The notion that that many people care strongly is naive.

cods wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:04am:

Dnarever wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:53am: If its so important then take it to an election! Not exactly the same advice that Macca was giving John Howard re: Workchoices. was Howard in a hung govt??????? come on dna every post you mention the Libs.. it has become more and more obvious you support two wrongs making a right..

was Howard in a hung govt???????

Sorry but I see no relivance.

come on dna every post you mention the Libs.. it has become more and more obvious you support two wrongs making a right..

Not mentioning the Libs in the context of right and wrong just pointing out that the poster of this opinion was happy to fight virtually to the death on the exact opposite principle.

Verge wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 9:47am:

The same penny Wong who said she didn't support gay marriage at the last election?

And Joe Hockey supported WorkChoices
( ... he "fessed up" in a candid interview on the ABC's "The Howard Years")

Think, also, Malcolm Turnbull's appointed - but less than heartfelt - job of "trashing" the NBN

It's known as "toeing the party line"

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15^th, 2012 at 10:38am:

Smithy you know Penny Wong will not appeal to the mainstream of Australia for several reasons. No need to go massively into them here and now, but she will not ever be PM for those reasons.

I disagree. Penny Wong has enough talent that given time she would win people onside. You wouldn't sacrifice her at the next election, but she could conceivably win people over as leader of the opposition. The exposure that comes with that position would give her the opportunity to show case her talents. I think that with where we are as a society the risk is perhaps on par with the Tories putting up Margaret Thatcher.

To pander to the petty prejudices of the ignorant is to become part of the problem. I'm going to back Penny Wong and say she is my preferred leader.

The very fact that Wong had to use those words at all is something this country should be very ashamed of.

buzzanddidj wrote on May 16^th, 2012 at 10:56pm:

Verge wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 9:47am: The same penny Wong who said she didn't support gay marriage at the last election? And Joe Hockey supported WorkChoices ( ... he "fessed up" in a candid interview on the ABC's "The Howard Years") Think, also, Malcolm Turnbull's appointed - but less than heartfelt - job of "trashing" the NBN It's known as "toeing the party line"

Its good practice for Turnball. If he wants to progress thru the party he is going to have to learn about 'toeing the party line'. So far, he has been an ill-disciplined and narcisistic MP.

MOTR wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 2:14am:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 15th, 2012 at 10:38am: Smithy you know Penny Wong will not appeal to the mainstream of Australia for several reasons. No need to go massively into them here and now, but she will not ever be PM for those reasons. I disagree. Penny Wong has enough talent that given time she would win people onside. You wouldn't sacrifice her at the next election, but she could conceivably win people over as leader of the opposition. The exposure that comes with that position would give her the opportunity to show case her talents. I think that with where we are as a society the risk is perhaps on par with the Tories putting up Margaret Thatcher. To pander to the petty prejudices of the ignorant is to become part of the problem. I'm going to back Penny Wong and say she is my preferred leader.

What talent? She has been a very very ordinary minister, her public performances are lame and she has the charisma of John Howard in a coma. And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership.

Quote:

And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership.

She is MUCH better looking than Bishop, the DEPUTY leader of the Libs or Brony, or lard ass Mirrabella, in fact name ONE Lib that isn't a pig.

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

Quote: And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership. She is MUCH better looking than Bishop, the DEPUTY leader of the Libs or Brony, or lard ass Mirrabella, in fact name ONE Lib that isn't a pig.

so you are saying those other attributes I mentioned are true?

At least Bishop is identifiably a woman. Wong could easily be misidentified as a man - which was my point. Because she looks and acts like a butch lesbian she will never be PM

Wong is a disgusting dyke, and I feel sorry for shim's its child. It is a gutless, and has no mind of its own, it only toes the party line at all times.

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:15am:

Quote: And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership. She is MUCH better looking than Bishop, the DEPUTY leader of the Libs or Brony, or lard ass Mirrabella, in fact name ONE Lib that isn't a pig.

Are you blind? All three of those women dress nicely, and actually look feminine, and like women. Not a disgusting lesbian dyke of a creature.

Righty27 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 10:45am:

skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:15am: Quote: And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership. She is MUCH better looking than Bishop, the DEPUTY leader of the Libs or Brony, or lard ass Mirrabella, in fact name ONE Lib that isn't a pig. Are you blind? All three of those women dress nicely, and actually look feminine, and like women. Not a disgusting lesbian dyke of a creature.

If thats the choice give me the lesbian every time. Much better than a cross eyed cyclops or a lard ass Greek, not to mention the hagerty old wax dummy known as Brony.

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:12am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:45am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:15am: Quote: And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership. She is MUCH better looking than Bishop, the DEPUTY leader of the Libs or Brony, or lard ass Mirrabella, in fact name ONE Lib that isn't a pig. Are you blind? All three of those women dress nicely, and actually look feminine, and like women. Not a disgusting lesbian dyke of a creature. If thats the choice give me the lesbian every time. Much better than a cross eyed cyclops or a lard ass Greek, not to mention the hagerty old wax dummy known as Brony.

None of those women may be beautiful, but they are feminine and good Australian women.

Righty27 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:20am:

skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:12am: Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:45am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:15am: Quote: And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership. She is MUCH better looking than Bishop, the DEPUTY leader of the Libs or Brony, or lard ass Mirrabella, in fact name ONE Lib that isn't a pig. Are you blind? All three of those women dress nicely, and actually look feminine, and like women. Not a disgusting lesbian dyke of a creature. If thats the choice give me the lesbian every time. Much better than a cross eyed cyclops or a lard ass Greek, not to mention the hagerty old wax dummy known as Brony. None of those women may be beautiful, but they are feminine and good Australian women.

So is Wong. ::)

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:26am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:20am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:12am: Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:45am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:15am: Quote: And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership. She is MUCH better looking than Bishop, the DEPUTY leader of the Libs or Brony, or lard ass Mirrabella, in fact name ONE Lib that isn't a pig. Are you blind? All three of those women dress nicely, and actually look feminine, and like women. Not a disgusting lesbian dyke of a creature. If thats the choice give me the lesbian every time. Much better than a cross eyed cyclops or a lard ass Greek, not to mention the hagerty old wax dummy known as Brony. None of those women may be beautiful, but they are feminine and good Australian women. So is Wong. ::)

No it isn't.

Why did she say this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69KoyIYWSGs

Now it is suddenly saying that this is a reform that is vital for our future?

Righty27 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:34am:

skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:26am: Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:20am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:12am: Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:45am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:15am: Quote: And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership. She is MUCH better looking than Bishop, the DEPUTY leader of the Libs or Brony, or lard ass Mirrabella, in fact name ONE Lib that isn't a pig. Are you blind? All three of those women dress nicely, and actually look feminine, and like women. Not a disgusting lesbian dyke of a creature. If thats the choice give me the lesbian every time. Much better than a cross eyed cyclops or a lard ass Greek, not to mention the hagerty old wax dummy known as Brony. None of those women may be beautiful, but they are feminine and good Australian women. So is Wong. ::) No it isn't. Why did she say this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69KoyIYWSGs Now it is suddenly saying that this is a reform that is vital for our future?

I thought this was about Gay Marriage, now you want to change it to the Carbon Tax, which Abbott used to support.

Lets get back to appraisals of beauty & femininity, post up a pic of yourself Righty & I'll judge in a fair & balanced way as to your worth to society.

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:34am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:26am: Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:20am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:12am: Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:45am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 10:15am: Quote: And as sexist as it may be, she is also dog-ugly. None of this amounts to anything even approximating good leadership. She is MUCH better looking than Bishop, the DEPUTY leader of the Libs or Brony, or lard ass Mirrabella, in fact name ONE Lib that isn't a pig. Are you blind? All three of those women dress nicely, and actually look feminine, and like women. Not a disgusting lesbian dyke of a creature. If thats the choice give me the lesbian every time. Much better than a cross eyed cyclops or a lard ass Greek, not to mention the hagerty old wax dummy known as Brony. None of those women may be beautiful, but they are feminine and good Australian women. So is Wong. ::) No it isn't. Why did she say this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69KoyIYWSGs Now it is suddenly saying that this is a reform that is vital for our future? I thought this was about Gay Marriage, now you want to change it to the Carbon Tax, which Abbott used to support. Lets get back to appraisals of beauty & femininity, post up a pic of yourself Righty & I'll judge in a fair & balanced way as to your worth to society.

Okay, I can do that too. Here we go:

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-election/wong-backs-labors-antigay-marriage-stance-20100725-10q37.html

Now it supports it. Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Why should I post a picture of myself online, when everyone could see it?

Yeah game over you smacking retard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74


Quote:

Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax.

Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar.

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:54am:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74 Quote: Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar.

LOL!!!!  geez Matty - the new sock is a failure as WELL!!!    Just go back to the usual one that we all know, love and ridicule!

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:53am:

Yeah game over you smacking retard

Nice to see you come back with a well-articulated response. Aren't you the one who also called me someone that I am not?

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:54am:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74 Quote: Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar.

You're the liar. He says IF, you simpleton.

lisa.greek wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:56am:

skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:54am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74 Quote: Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar. LOL!!!!  geez Matty - the new sock is a failure as WELL!!!    Just go back to the usual one that we all know, love and ridicule!

There it is, again. Calling me Matty is not fair to me, nor is it fair to him/her, whoever they are.

The funny thing is, that I have been called that by four people on here, and all of them have had no proof or basis on which to say that. Yet, in other threads, they say that Thomson is entitled to the presumption of innocence. Funny, that.

Dsmithy70 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:45am:

I thought this was about Gay Marriage, now you want to change it to the Carbon Tax, which Abbott used to support. Lets get back to appraisals of beauty & femininity, post up a pic of yourself Righty & I'll judge in a fair & balanced way as to your worth to society.

Carbon Tax, which Abbott used to support.


It was very different: the Abbnott cvarbon tax was a tax that everyone was going to pay in the form of tax which was going to the Australian taxation office.

In Abbotts plan the money was going to be paid by all of us and given to the poluters in what would have been a huge incentive plan to produce more carbon dioxide emissions in order to gain a greater share of the government pay out.

Abbnott clearly stated that you would pay tax at the bowser and in your electricity bills and that you may be able to claim some back at the end of the year on your tax return.

This was going to be a genuine tax.

Labors fixed price is a cost where the Australian Tax office will never collect one single cent from anyone, a tax where nobody will ever pay any tax - never ever.

Righty27 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:59am:

lisa.greek wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:56am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:54am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74 Quote: Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar. LOL!!!!  geez Matty - the new sock is a failure as WELL!!!    Just go back to the usual one that we all know, love and ridicule! There it is, again. Calling me Matty is not fair to me, nor is it fair to him/her, whoever they are. The funny thing is, that I have been called that by four people on here, and all of them have had no proof or basis on which to say that. Yet, in other threads, they say that Thomson is entitled to the presumption of innocence. Funny, that.

LOL matty same old routine you trot out every time you get busted. WE accept your surrender, its easy to pick you, no one else could be as dumb as you are. :P

Righty27 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 11:57am:

skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:54am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74 Quote: Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar. You're the liar. He says IF, you simpleton.

. He says IF

He says if you want to put a price on carbon that a tax is the best option- he has also consistantly supported a price on carbon.

skippy. wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:59am: lisa.greek wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:56am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:54am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74 Quote: Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar. LOL!!!!  geez Matty - the new sock is a failure as WELL!!!    Just go back to the usual one that we all know, love and ridicule! There it is, again. Calling me Matty is not fair to me, nor is it fair to him/her, whoever they are. The funny thing is, that I have been called that by four people on here, and all of them have had no proof or basis on which to say that. Yet, in other threads, they say that Thomson is entitled to the presumption of innocence. Funny, that. LOL matty same old routine you trot out every time you get busted. WE accept your surrender, its easy to pick you, no one else could be as dumb as you are. :P

Where's the proof? Why am I not entitled to the presumption of innocence? You think that Thomson is, so why not me?

Dnarever wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:09pm:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:57am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:54am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74 Quote: Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar. You're the liar. He says IF, you simpleton. . He says IF He says if you want to put a price on carbon that a tax is the best option- he has also consistantly supported a price on carbon.

He once supported an ETS, if memory serves, then changed his mind on pricing carbon. Then, he said that the carbon tax was the lesser of two evils.

Righty27 wrote on May 17^th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:03pm: Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:59am: lisa.greek wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:56am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:54am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74 Quote: Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar. LOL!!!!  geez Matty - the new sock is a failure as WELL!!!    Just go back to the usual one that we all know, love and ridicule! There it is, again. Calling me Matty is not fair to me, nor is it fair to him/her, whoever they are. The funny thing is, that I have been called that by four people on here, and all of them have had no proof or basis on which to say that. Yet, in other threads, they say that Thomson is entitled to the presumption of innocence. Funny, that. LOL matty same old routine you trot out every time you get busted. WE accept your surrender, its easy to pick you, no one else could be as dumb as you are. :P Where's the proof? Why am I not entitled to the presumption of innocence? You think that Thomson is, so why not me?

Exactly, Righty. It clearly says in your profile that you're female. We know that Matty is male, so how could you possibly be the same person?

You could always sue Lisa and Skippy for libel and present your case.

Mattyfisk wrote on May 18^th, 2012 at 11:01am:

Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:10pm: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 12:03pm: Righty27 wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:59am: lisa.greek wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:56am: skippy. wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 11:54am: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckcH0Wrmy74 Quote: Mr Abbott never supported a carbon tax. Yes he did, LIAR, here he is proving you are a liar. LOL!!!!  geez Matty - the new sock is a failure as WELL!!!    Just go back to the usual one that we all know, love and ridicule! There it is, again. Calling me Matty is not fair to me, nor is it fair to him/her, whoever they are. The funny thing is, that I have been called that by four people on here, and all of them have had no proof or basis on which to say that. Yet, in other threads, they say that Thomson is entitled to the presumption of innocence. Funny, that. LOL matty same old routine you trot out every time you get busted. WE accept your surrender, its easy to pick you, no one else could be as dumb as you are. :P Where's the proof? Why am I not entitled to the presumption of innocence? You think that Thomson is, so why not me? Exactly, Righty. It clearly says in your profile that you're female. We know that Matty is male, so how could you possibly be the same person? You could always sue Lisa and Skippy for libel and present your case.

What astounds me most about Righty27 is that there are another 26 righties all with the same amazing lack of imagination when it comes to choosing a name.