All some posters can do is throw personal abuse and resort to petty insults to try and drag the debate into the gutter where they have no problem wallowing in the muck.....I will not respond to personal attacks in future and hope others will not respond to these individuals and feed their pathetic ego's.....There is a reason these people resort to abuse and are mainly from the right side of politics.....Do not feed the trolls!!!

:) :) :)

Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute.
Josh Billings (1818 - 1885)

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 10:51am:

All some posters can do is throw personal abuse and resort to petty insults to try and drag the debate into the gutter where they have no problem wallowing in the muck.....I will not respond to personal attacks in future and hope others will not respond to these individuals and feed their pathetic ego's.....There is a reason these people resort to abuse and are mainly from the right side of politics.....Do not feed the trolls!!! Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute. Josh Billings (1818 - 1885)

I have already ignored a couple of comments today and have been using the Billings method of rebutal for a while with a couple of the more conservative abusers.

:'(

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philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 10:51am:

All some posters can do is throw personal abuse and resort to petty insults to try and drag the debate into the gutter where they have no problem wallowing in the muck.....I will not respond to personal attacks in future and hope others will not respond to these individuals and feed their pathetic ego's.....There is a reason these people resort to abuse and are mainly from the right side of politics.....Do not feed the trolls!!! :) :) :) Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute. Josh Billings (1818 - 1885)

Funny that people you disagree with (and call names) should "abuse" you.

... wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 12:23pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 10:51am: All some posters can do is throw personal abuse and resort to petty insults to try and drag the debate into the gutter where they have no problem wallowing in the muck.....I will not respond to personal attacks in future and hope others will not respond to these individuals and feed their pathetic ego's.....There is a reason these people resort to abuse and are mainly from the right side of politics.....Do not feed the trolls!!! :) :) :) Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute. Josh Billings (1818 - 1885) Funny that people you disagree with (and call names) should "abuse" you.

Do not know who you are or where you get your opinion.....I have retaliated in the past but will refrain in future.....If you lower yourself to the standards of other posters who resort to personal attacks you will also be suitably ignored.....OK!!!

::) ::) ::)

Thanks Phil that is the appropriate way to respond. You can also send a PM to myself or one of the other mods with a link and quote so we can take further action if necessary.

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 12:51pm:

Thanks Phil that is the appropriate way to respond. You can also send a PM to myself or one of the other mods with a link and quote so we can take further action if necessary.

You are correct FD.....The Mods cannot do their job if they are not alerted to the abuse.....However most abuse is quite tame like calling posters stupid and morons which isn't worth the trouble......What level of abuse would warrant action???

:-? :-? :-?

It's up to you. I have taken action over the use of the term moron before.

freediver wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 12:58pm:

It's up to you. I have taken action over the use of the term moron before.

Will do if it is worth it IMO!!!

[smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=beer.gif]

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1331732165/55#55


Reply 55. What was it you called longweekend??

Couldn't have been 'dickhead' hey phil.

You really are  a slime. Maybe three boxes of tissues aren't enough for you.

I will not retaliate in future.....I have made my point and am not proud of the fact I lowered myself to the standards set by other posters.....I will refrain from this behaviour in future and ignore or report any serious abuse.....OK!!!

:) :) :)

Phil what you have called me doesn't worry me. It's a rough and tumble world out there and I have been called many things as  I am sure you have.

I couldn't give a bugger what people call me. Never have and never will.

It's the 'c' word that I find extremely offensive and that has been used on here twice recently, once by Gist and again by smithy. I didn't see you complain about that.

You could try not being so pompous. You remind me of  a school teacher I once had.

You are probably a nice bloke but maybe take life and politics to seriously.
.

blackadder wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 1:50pm:

Phil what you have called me doesn't worry me. It's a rough and tumble world out there and I have been called many things as  I am sure you have. I couldn't give a bugger what people call me. Never have and never will. It's the 'c' word that I find extremely offensive and that has been used on here twice recently, once by Gist and again by smithy. I didn't see you complain about that. You could try not being so pompous. You remind me of  a school teacher I once had. You are probably a nice bloke but maybe take life and politics to seriously. .

What makes you think I am talking about you???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 2:07pm:

blackadder wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 1:50pm: Phil what you have called me doesn't worry me. It's a rough and tumble world out there and I have been called many things as  I am sure you have. I couldn't give a bugger what people call me. Never have and never will. It's the 'c' word that I find extremely offensive and that has been used on here twice recently, once by Gist and again by smithy. I didn't see you complain about that. You could try not being so pompous. You remind me of  a school teacher I once had. You are probably a nice bloke but maybe take life and politics to seriously. . What makes you think I am talking about you??? :-? :-? :-?

Just a comment. Nothing more, nothing less.

Bye Phil...missing you already. Can't afford to throw those stones, if you have been a naughty little poster ourself...can we?

You may now go back to your desk.

I've pretty-well given up responding to the serial abusers.

Most of whom DO seem to be from the right, for some reason, and many
of whom cannot write a single sentence without denigrating their opponent.

I really do have better things to do with my time.

red baron wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 3:58pm:

Bye Phil...missing you already. Can't afford to throw those stones, if you have been a naughty little poster ourself...can we? You may now go back to your desk.

Are you going somewhere.....Goodbye!!!

:) :) :)

blackadder wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 1:50pm:

I couldn't give a bugger what people call me. Never have and never will. It's the 'c' word that I find extremely offensive and that has been used on here twice recently, once by Gist and again by smithy. I didn't see you complain about that

http://www.ozpolitic.com/album/forum-attachments/For_phil_.jpg

Anyway, what 'c' word? Surely not 'cods'?

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 10:51am:

All some posters can do is throw personal abuse and resort to petty insults  to try and drag the debate into the gutter where they have no problem wallowing in the muck.....I will not respond to personal attacks in future and hope others will not respond to these individuals and feed their pathetic ego's.....There is a reason these people resort to abuse and are mainly from the right side of politics.....Do not feed the trolls!!! :) :) :) Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute. Josh Billings (1818 - 1885)

Unforntunately some people do enter into personal abuse & as a general rule, I agree that it is appropriate to simply ignore it!

However, from time to time, it  may also be appropriate to put them back into their place & I reserve the right to do so, either directly by telling them what they are or indirectly (in my role as Moderator), by giving them a short holiday!

It's the interwebs, right ?  Unlike real life, we can log out of the web, the forum, whatever.  We can push ourselves back from the screen and immediately, we can become absorbed in real life

On the street, in the workplace, at school, at parties and gatherings, it's not always possible to close down an argument/disagreement/slanging match.  Because in real life, we're physically there with our face red or white, our eyes blazing, possibly.  And often there are witnesses, albeit unwilling ones, all of which compels many to retort in order to save face

A confrontation in public might lead to our becoming physically attacked and may threaten family and friends

But on internet, we're safe.  We're anonymous and far removed from physical threat.  We can step away from the screen and source of aggravation to clear our head or end the discussion on our own terms.  How much easier could it get ? 

Or, are there still those who expect the entire world to treat them with kid gloves as if online fora were a little sandpit complete with mod-police to ensure Little Preciousness shouldn't be offended - with Little Preciousness alone as judge of what is 'offensive' ?

Good grief, when I was a kid, we despised dobbers.  The Americans even coined a phrase for it:  ' If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen' --- remember ?

They coined a few others, come to think of it.  They're pretty good at encapsulating contemporary wisdom and exporting their pithy pearls to the rest of the world.  ' Get over it ' -- ' Build a bridge' - 'Whatevuh' 

Seem a reasonable little selection appropriate to this thread ?  One's bound to fit ...

Quote:

Good grief, when I was a kid, we despised dobbers.

Those people that do the wrong thing and rely on other people's sense of justice use that absurd ideology.....I call it justice!!!

The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it.
Ayn Rand (1905 - 1982), Atlas Shrugged, 1957

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
Edmund Burke (1729 - 1797)

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 9:53pm:

Quote: Good grief, when I was a kid, we despised dobbers. Those people that do the wrong thing and rely on other people's sense of justice use that absurd ideology.....I call it justice!!! The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. Ayn Rand (1905 - 1982), Atlas Shrugged, 1957

Feel free to ignore me, remember, if what I have to say annoys you

but who decides what constitutes 'the wrong thing' ?  You ?

Looks like you're really digging your hole here

ever considered going for a walk and getting blood to the brain instead of provoking others so you can complain about them ?

Or -- let's try another tack:  what went wrong for you today ?  Wanna talk about it ?  Because  truthfully, it makes sense to sort out one's issues rather than attempt to transfer them onto others who have problems of their own, many of which would dwarf yours very probably

On the other hand, you could instead take a look at your post and the three exclamation marks placed there to make a POINT and maybe to get ATTENTION or maybe simply in an attempt to PROVOKE

Anyway, I'm going to ignore you, as the nice mod advised us to do  :D

Doesn't mean I'm going to refrain from posting of course.  Just means you're wiped from my radar screen.  We'll exist in parallel universes

PZ547 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 10:07pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 9:53pm: Quote: Good grief, when I was a kid, we despised dobbers. Those people that do the wrong thing and rely on other people's sense of justice use that absurd ideology.....I call it justice!!! The evil of the world is made possible by nothing but the sanction you give it. Ayn Rand (1905 - 1982), Atlas Shrugged, 1957 Feel free to ignore me, remember, if what I have to say annoys you but who decides what constitutes 'the wrong thing' ?  You ? Looks like you're really digging your hole here ever considered going for a walk and getting blood to the brain instead of provoking others so you can complain about them ? Or -- let's try another tack:  what went wrong for you today ?  Wanna talk about it ?  Because  truthfully, it makes sense to sort out one's issues rather than attempt to transfer them onto others who have problems of their own, many of which would dwarf yours very probably On the other hand, you could instead take a look at your post and the three exclamation marks placed there to make a POINT and maybe to get ATTENTION or maybe simply in an attempt to PROVOKE Anyway, I'm going to ignore you, as the nice mod advised us to do  :D Doesn't mean I'm going to refrain from posting of course.  Just means you're wiped from my radar screen.  We'll exist in parallel universes

Knock yourself out mate.....I have no idea who you are and do not care to have a pissing contest with anyone.....The posters I am referring to will be dealt with if I deem it necessary....That is my choice not yours.....enjoy!!!

::) ::) ::)

I don't really mind the abusers who offer nothing.

Imagine how difficult it would be if everyone was making strong arguments against your points all the time.

The guys who just insult you only really strengthen your position and undermine there own credibility.

Quote:

but who decides what constitutes 'the wrong thing' ?  You ?

That would be me. You are right that people can just walk away, but if that is the extent of the response then the kiddies will destroy the value of this forum.

There is nothing wrong with people using three exclamation marks or 'provoking' others. This is a good thing. Just make it about politics and not yourselves.

blackadder wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 1:50pm:

It's the 'c' word that I find extremely offensive and that has been used on here twice recently, once by Gist and again by smithy. I didn't see you complain about that.

Are you are referring to my use of the word in regards to you hounding other posters away with constant abuse?

Well it was in great big letters, & I apoligized for it's use within the same post, not to you in the context it was used it fits, but to other posters.

I'm sure more than 1 mod saw the thread, in fact it's still on this page, so I assume they must agree.

freediver wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2012 at 8:42am:

Quote: but who decides what constitutes 'the wrong thing' ?  You ? That would be me. You are right that people can just walk away, but if that is the extent of the response then the kiddies will destroy the value of this forum. There is nothing wrong with people using three exclamation marks or 'provoking' others. This is a good thing. Just make it about politics and not yourselves.

Agreed!

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2012 at 10:17am:

blackadder wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 1:50pm: It's the 'c' word that I find extremely offensive and that has been used on here twice recently, once by Gist and again by smithy. I didn't see you complain about that. Are you are referring to my use of the word in regards to you hounding other posters away with constant abuse? Well it was in great big letters, & I apoligized for it's use within the same post, not to you in the context it was used it fits, but to other posters. I'm sure more than 1 mod saw the thread, in fact it's still on this page, so I assume they must agree.

As Moderators, I assure you, there is no way that we can look at every post.

That said, if I do see a post with any F's or C's, I will take action!

Can you give us a link dsmithy?

An apology within the same post is kind of hollow.

freediver wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2012 at 6:20pm:

Can you give us a link dsmithy? An apology within the same post is kind of hollow.

Maybe depends whether you wished to offend all or make a point to a few, my reason was the latter.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1328140925

Delete away, it's redundant now.

Dsmithy70 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2012 at 7:23pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 6:20pm: Can you give us a link dsmithy? An apology within the same post is kind of hollow. Maybe depends whether you wished to offend all or make a point to a few, my reason was the latter. http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1328140925 Delete away, it's redundant now.

Done!

Thanks for the assist, Smithy!

I like it when people 'cleverly and smartly' abuse one another. But simple-minded abuse deserves deletion and has no place in the art of writing and foruming.

Stephen Fry pointed out that swear words may well be an evolutionary positive step. Telling somebody to FO is a lot better than punching them in the face and a discharge of frustrtion is better than holding it in.

Personally I know DSmithy to be a reasonable if sometimes arrogant bloke. If he used the C word on somebody I wouldn't have to see the example to feel confident it was an appropriate response.

Grey wrote on Mar 26^th, 2012 at 5:19pm:

Stephen Fry pointed out that swear words may well be an evolutionary positive step. Telling somebody to FO is a lot better than punching them in the face and a discharge of frustrtion is better than holding it in. Personally I know DSmithy to be a reasonable if sometimes arrogant bloke. If he used the C word on somebody I wouldn't have to see the example to feel confident it was an appropriate response.

Good series

Swearing is a weapon in itself.
Just like Muad'dib of the Frank Herbert Dune series showed - words and tone of voice, etc can have a powerful effect if used properly.

I don't swear at work. I'm quiet, well spoken (I am ;)) and polite with considerations allround.
...but I can swear and its like a bite more than a bark upon the mind of the person of whom has pushed me too far. Ahh yes - 'Mental' abuse can render someone - incapacitated.

Keep a good line and length ...then bowl in the yorker at their toes - either way its an LBW or a Wicket, 75% of the time.

Now **** off you **** !!! >:(

Geez thing get pretty hot round 'ere don't they?
I'm going to enjoy this! :D :D :D

I like to get the bayonet out.
They don't like the cold steel up 'em y'know  ;D

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 10:51am:

All some posters can do is throw personal abuse and resort to petty insults to try and drag the debate into the gutter where they have no problem wallowing in the muck.....I will not respond to personal attacks in future and hope others will not respond to these individuals and feed their pathetic ego's.....There is a reason these people resort to abuse and are mainly from the right side of politics.....Do not feed the trolls!!! :) :) :) Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute. Josh Billings (1818 - 1885)

I usually ignore it and keep right on but if they keep it up ill say something sarcastic which they wont "get" and it all gets weird then.

SOB

Anti-semitism is on this forum sometime and it must not be allowed.

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 2^nd, 2012 at 8:45pm:

Anti-semitism is on this forum sometime and it must not be allowed.

Pot calling the kettle black.

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2012 at 10:51am:

All some posters can do is throw personal abuse and resort to petty insults to try and drag the debate into the gutter where they have no problem wallowing in the muck.....I will not respond to personal attacks in future and hope others will not respond to these individuals and feed their pathetic ego's.....There is a reason these people resort to abuse and are mainly from the right side of politics.....Do not feed the trolls!!! :) :) :) Silence is one of the hardest arguments to refute. Josh Billings (1818 - 1885)

You say something po-faced and prissy and then support it by a quote about silence. What a smacking liberty, as Catherine Tate's Nan likes to say.

With posters like you popping up with this sort of idiocy, there isn't nearly enough abuse, I say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xxmd-Pr54rQ&feature=related

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 2^nd, 2012 at 8:45pm:

Anti-semitism is on this forum sometime and it must not be allowed.

You can't dictate what people think or say. It's better to let the crazies talk than to make them furtive.

Soren wrote on May 2^nd, 2012 at 10:03pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 8:45pm: Anti-semitism is on this forum sometime and it must not be allowed. You can't dictate what people think or say. It's better to let the crazies talk than to make them furtive.

Annie, dear, have you administered those probes yet? The patient is still in a profoundly delusional state. There is no change whatsoever.

Note the textbook example of projection: "crazies".  The patient has absolutely no idea of his own incurable psychosis.

This is, of course, typical in the pathalogical cases. We'll need to have a consult on this one, I fear. Did you say we have a specialist on hand?

Best to keep this one in-house, dear. We don't want the Department involved, now do we.

Mattyfisk wrote on May 2^nd, 2012 at 11:34pm:

Soren wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 10:03pm: Avram Horowitz wrote on May 2nd, 2012 at 8:45pm: Anti-semitism is on this forum sometime and it must not be allowed. You can't dictate what people think or say. It's better to let the crazies talk than to make them furtive. Annie, dear, have you administered those probes yet? The patient is still in a profoundly delusional state. There is no change whatsoever. Note the textbook example of projection: "crazies".  The patient has absolutely no idea of his own incurable psychosis. This is, of course, typical in the pathalogical cases. We'll need to have a consult on this one, I fear. Did you say we have a specialist on hand? Best to keep this one in-house, dear. We don't want the Department involved, now do we.

Like this stupid PB. Better let him talk, that way there's no doubt he is a crazy turd burglar.

Anti semitism has already see member banned by moderator before so this must happen each time.

Avram Horowitz wrote on May 3^rd, 2012 at 5:13pm:

Anti semitism has already see member banned by moderator before so this must happen each time.

Your a pussy coward
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Avram Horowitz wrote on May 3^rd, 2012 at 5:13pm:

Anti semitism has already see member banned by moderator before so this must happen each time.

Not a very good forum if only ppl with agreeable points of view are allowed.

SOB