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Message started by freediver on Jan 25th, 2012 at 7:27pm

Title: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 25th, 2012 at 7:27pm
Please don't accuse Falah of antisemitism (or hating Jews for that matter) or Abu will be forced to delete this thread - again. Still not exactly sure why the first one was deleted.



Does this come with the territory if you revert to Islam?

Love the Merchant of Venice reference. It really adds validity to your views LOL.


falah wrote on Jan 24th, 2012 at 6:39pm:
In more than 2000 years, the Jews have never really had a great civilisation have they?

What is it that parasites do? They suck the resources out of their host with little regard for the well-being of the host.

Some might say that the Jewish religion enables this type of activity with the idea of gentiles being sub-humans wo are legitimate targets of Jewish harm. Jews allowed themselves to offer interest-based loans to non-Jews and grew rich in the process.

This mainly occured when Europeans monarchies -desparate for resource to finance their wars - began allowing the Jews to offer interest-based loans.

....

William Shakespeare's book The Merchant of Venice demonstrates how medieval Europeans viewed the Jews and their money-lending practices.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jan 25th, 2012 at 8:21pm
What you have written is a lie. I didn't actually say "Jews are parasites".

But does the Jewish religion itself encourage parasticism? Does not Judaism encourage parasitic behaviour if it teaches that it is OK to steal from and cheat non-Jews?

Not every Jew is a parasite. But is it their religion which has prevented them from having established an empire in the last 2000+ years? 

The Merchant of Venice is a Christian British portrayal of medieval Jews...and pretty tame compared to some of the stories about Jews drinking children's blood that were common in Europe at the time.

I raised the issue of the Merchant of Venice to illustrate that there was a time when Christian Europeans disapproved of usury-based money lending. It is only since it has become widely accepted in Europe that Jews have managed togain influence.

If you have an issue with The Merchant of Venice, then I suggest you take it up with William Shakespeare.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 25th, 2012 at 9:48pm

Quote:
Not every Jew is a parasite.


You are too generous Falah.


Quote:
The Merchant of Venice is a Christian British portrayal of medieval Jews...and pretty tame compared to some of the stories about Jews drinking children's blood that were common in Europe at the time.


Nice of you to hold back like that. You could have really proven your point about Jews with a less polite portrayal.


Quote:
If you have an issue with The Merchant of Venice, then I suggest you take it up with William Shakespeare.


I don't think Bill ever pretended to have written an historical piece.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 25th, 2012 at 10:27pm
fd, do you mind to recant your false claims about Falah's view of Jews?

In fact, if you were a decent chap, you'd go one step further and apologise to him.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 25th, 2012 at 10:40pm
Which claims would that be?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jan 26th, 2012 at 12:24pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 25th, 2012 at 10:27pm:

fd, do you mind to recant your false claims about Falah's view of Jews?

In fact, if you were a decent chap, you'd go one step further and apologise to him.



Abu,

Didn't falah  vilify all Jewish people ???


falah.....

Quote:

In more than 2000 years, the Jews have never really had a great civilisation have they?
What is it that parasites do? They suck the resources out of their host with little regard for the well-being of the host.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1327261577/28#28


Abu,
Aren't there laws in Australia against the vilification of ethnic groups ???

While Jewish people are also a religious group, the Jewish people are mostly recognised as being an ethnic group.

And isn't that the context in which falah made the comments which he did, the context of ethnicity?




Abu,
Shouldn't it be falah who makes an apology, to the Jewish people ???





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Hey falah, this would be a good forum, for you to apologise in.

......Yadda, waiting for falah's response.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jan 26th, 2012 at 12:37pm

falah wrote on Jan 25th, 2012 at 8:21pm:
What you have written is a lie. I didn't actually say "Jews are parasites".

But does the Jewish religion itself encourage parasticism?



falah,

As you well know, not all Jews are religious.

But you did not make any distinction, about which Jews you were referring to.

falah.....

Quote:

In more than 2000 years, the Jews have never really had a great civilisation have they?
What is it that parasites do? They suck the resources out of their host with little regard for the well-being of the host.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1327261577/28#28






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falah wrote on Jan 25th, 2012 at 8:21pm:

Does not Judaism encourage parasitic behaviour if it teaches that it is OK to steal from and cheat non-Jews?



No.

No.

No.

e.g.
The RELIGIOUS LAWS of Judaism state.....

Exodus 12:49
One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you.

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him...

Exodus 23:9
Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger...

Leviticus 19:33
And if a stranger sojourn with thee in your land, ye shall not vex him.
34  But the stranger that dwelleth with you shall be unto you as one born among you, and thou shalt love him as thyself...


n.b.
.....and thou shalt love him as thyself

Deuteronomy 1:16
And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him.

Deuteronomy 10:17-19
For the LORD your God... loveth the stranger, ...Love ye therefore the stranger: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 24:17
Thou shalt not pervert the judgment of the stranger, nor of the fatherless; nor take a widow's raiment to pledge:
18  But thou shalt remember that thou wast a bondman in Egypt, and the LORD thy God redeemed thee thence: therefore I command thee to do this thing.

Deuteronomy 27:19
Cursed be he that perverteth the judgment of the stranger...


falah.....
"Does not Judaism encourage parasitic behaviour if it teaches that it is OK to steal from and cheat non-Jews?"

Duh ???

No.






falah wrote on Jan 25th, 2012 at 8:21pm:
Not every Jew is a parasite. But is it their religion which has prevented them from having established an empire in the last 2000+ years? 

The Merchant of Venice is a Christian British portrayal of medieval Jews...and pretty tame compared to some of the stories about Jews drinking children's blood that were common in Europe at the time.

I raised the issue of the Merchant of Venice to illustrate that there was a time when Christian Europeans disapproved of usury-based money lending. It is only since it has become widely accepted in Europe that Jews have managed togain influence.

If you have an issue with The Merchant of Venice, then I suggest you take it up with William Shakespeare.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 26th, 2012 at 8:30pm
Yadda,

I'm thoroughly amazed that every time something about the Bible is shown to you, you thrust your fingers into your ears and quote the verse about not vexing people. When it's clearly shown to you the Bible commanded to vex people, you come up with the excuse of them being people who deserved to be vexed....

Yet when you read 1 passage from the Qur'an completely out of context, you instantly hold it up as proof Islam is supposedly an oppressive and evil religion, and refuse to even read the verses around it which give it context.

You are the epitome of hypocrisy.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jan 26th, 2012 at 8:56pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 26th, 2012 at 8:30pm:
Yadda,

I'm thoroughly amazed that every time something about the Bible is shown to you, you thrust your fingers into your ears and quote the verse about not vexing people. When it's clearly shown to you the Bible commanded to vex people, you come up with the excuse of them being people who deserved to be vexed....



Yet when you read 1 passage from the Qur'an completely out of context, you instantly hold it up as proof Islam is supposedly an oppressive and evil religion, and refuse to even read the verses around it which give it context.



You are the epitome of hypocrisy.




Abu,

As you well know, the Koran is set out by 'topic', and has almost no context presented within its verses.

The Koran is set out in an unstructured format, without any narrative, sequential structure, to present context.




This is unlike most of the books of the OT Bible.

Almost all of the books of the OT Bible have a sequential, narrative, structure.






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A FEW VERSES FROM THE THE KORAN, AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE NARRATIVE-LESS 'STRUCTURE' OF THE KORAN......


".....and [you] refuse to even read the verses around it which give it context...."

Where is the narrative structure, which reveals the context Abu ???


003.104
YUSUFALI: Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity.

003.105
YUSUFALI: Be not like those who are divided amongst themselves and fall into disputations after receiving Clear Signs: For them is a dreadful penalty,-

003.106
YUSUFALI: On the Day when some faces will be (lit up with) white, and some faces will be (in the gloom of) black: To those whose faces will be black, (will be said): "Did ye reject Faith after accepting it? Taste then the penalty for rejecting Faith."

003.107
YUSUFALI: But those whose faces will be (lit with) white,- they will be in (the light of) Allah's mercy: therein to dwell (for ever).

003.108
YUSUFALI: These are the Signs of Allah: We rehearse them to thee in Truth: And Allah means no injustice to any of His creatures.

003.109
YUSUFALI: To Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: To Him do all questions go back (for decision).

003.110
YUSUFALI: Ye are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.

003.111
YUSUFALI: They will do you no harm, barring a trifling annoyance; if they come out to fight you, they will show you their backs, and no help shall they get.





Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 26th, 2012 at 9:14pm
Abu, have you changed your mind about me apologising to Falah?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jan 26th, 2012 at 9:18pm

A FEW MORE VERSES FROM THE THE KORAN, AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE NARRATIVE-LESS 'STRUCTURE' OF THE KORAN......


".....and [you] refuse to even read the verses around it which give it context...."

Allah says......

"O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends......And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."

Where is the narrative structure, which reveals the context Abu ???


005.046
YUSUFALI: And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah.

005.047
YUSUFALI: Let the people of the Gospel judge by what Allah hath revealed therein. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what Allah hath revealed, they are (no better than) those who rebel.

005.048
YUSUFALI: To thee We sent the Scripture in truth, confirming the scripture that came before it, and guarding it in safety: so judge between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, diverging from the Truth that hath come to thee. To each among you have we prescribed a law and an open way. If Allah had so willed, He would have made you a single people, but (His plan is) to test you in what He hath given you: so strive as in a race in all virtues. The goal of you all is to Allah; it is He that will show you the truth of the matters in which ye dispute;

005.049
YUSUFALI: And this (He commands): Judge thou between them by what Allah hath revealed, and follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they beguile thee from any of that (teaching) which Allah hath sent down to thee. And if they turn away, be assured that for some of their crime it is Allah's purpose to punish them. And truly most men are rebellious.

005.050
YUSUFALI: Do they then seek after a judgment of (the days of) ignorance? But who, for a people whose faith is assured, can give better judgment than Allah?

005.051
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends and protectors: They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

005.052
YUSUFALI: Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts.

005.053
YUSUFALI: And those who believe will say: "Are these the men who swore their strongest oaths by Allah, that they were with you?" All that they do will be in vain, and they will fall into (nothing but) ruin.

005.054
YUSUFALI: O ye who believe! if any from among you turn back from his Faith, soon will Allah produce a people whom He will love as they will love Him,- lowly with the believers, mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproaches of such as find fault. That is the grace of Allah, which He will bestow on whom He pleaseth. And Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things.

005.055
YUSUFALI: Your (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (fellowship of) believers,- those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship).



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 27th, 2012 at 9:35am
I'm pretty sure I have pointed out to you before that the word translated here as "friends" does not mean friends in the sense that we understand it in English.

There are several words in Arabic that overlap semantically to some degree with the English word "friend", and this is one of them, but it refers to a relationship that is more aptly described as a protector, ally, guardian. It is not a symmetric peer-based friendship as you are perceiving it to be.

The word in question is wali (plural awliya) and one would NEVER in Arabic say "Hey mum I am going to hang out  with my awliya", it makes no sense at all.

Here is a better translation:

"O you who believe! Take not the Jews and the Christians as Auliya' (friends, protectors, helpers), they are but Auliya' of each other. And if any amongst you takes them (as Auliya'), then surely he is one of them. Verily, Allah guides not those people who are the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers and unjust)."

If we look at the French translation we find also:

Ô les croyants! Ne prenez pas pour alliés les Juifs et les Chrétiens; ils sont alliés les uns des autres. Et celui d'entre vous qui les prend pour alliés, devient un des leurs. Allah ne guide certes pas les gens injustes.

I'm sure you can work out what that word means, even if you don't speak French.

In Indonesian the word "pemimpin" is used, which basically means "leaders".
In German the word "Beschützern" is used, which means "protectors".
In Bosnian the word "zaštitnici" is used, which means "protectors".

Quite clearly the English word "friends" does not accurately capture the meaning of the word "awliya".

And anyway even if it did, I don't see what your problem with that is? Tell me, how many Muslims have you befriended?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 27th, 2012 at 12:48pm
Abu, how come sometimes you say that the arabic word has subtly different meanings to the English, whereas other times (eg treason) you insist that the Islamic meaning is the one true meaning, so for example treason and apostasy are actually the same thing and you cannot tell the difference any more, even when it comes to non-Muslim Americans committing treason.

Do you just go with whatever saves you the trouble of coming up with a rational argument?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jan 27th, 2012 at 1:51pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 27th, 2012 at 9:35am:
I'm pretty sure I have pointed out to you before that the word translated here as "friends" does not mean friends in the sense that we understand it in English.....

.....Quite clearly the English word "friends" does not accurately capture the meaning of the word "awliya".

And anyway even if it did, I don't see what your problem with that is?

Tell me, how many Muslims have you befriended?




What do i know of moslems, personally ?

In the past, i have met and talked with [only a few] moslems, and i have been a guest in the home of a moslem.

But where i live today, i have no 'opportunity' to come into personal contact with moslems.



But regarding my opinion of ISLAM/moslems Abu, shouldn't i legitimately be allowed to form my opinion of moslems [to form my opinion of their 'society'], based upon my understanding of their examined philosophy ?

And to form my opinion of 'moslem society', based upon how moslems themselves present themselves, in the world ?


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Abu,

I would trust moslems, if i did not know that moslems are 'openly' a deceitful people.

Personally, i am convinced that moslems typically, only tell the truth, about their relationship with infidels,
...when moslems talk among themselves.

It is my opinion, that moslems typically, ARE LIARS, and will blatantly, and intentionally, and deceitfully misrepresent ISLAM to infidels, whenever they are talking to infidels.




Abu,
Why would i hold such an opinion about moslems?

e.g.
Google;
undercover mosque

Google;
taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit

Google;
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"



How Taqiyya Alters Islams Rules of War
http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war


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DECEIT EXAMPLE #1,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - blatant deceit
A UK moslem *community leader*, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;
"We condemn the killing of all innocent civilians."

#1,
THE VERY SAME GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
"...Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: "Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar." "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article552594.ece




DECEIT EXAMPLE #2,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - blatant deceit
"The Undercover Mosque: The return"
"A group of Christians visiting the mosque and the preacher and the Women's Circle treat [the Christians] kindly and talk about,
'We're all people of the book and we all come from the same history'."

#2,
SAME GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
"Just as soon as that group of visitors [the Christians] leaves, the language changes completely. 'CHRISTIANITY IS VILE', the preacher says....."

Source;
ABC Radio National Religion interview transcript  - "The Undercover Mosque: The return"
".....Stephen Crittenden: .....your program highlights a certain kind of duplicity. When they're caught out, individuals don't miss a [beat], they just say they've been taken out of context....
David Henshaw: ......Regent's Park Mosque is officially committed to inter-faith dialogue....."
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/religionreport/stories/2008/2360820.htm#transcript

IMO, what 'religious' non-moslems need to realise, is that the intentional, blatant deceit, coming from the lips of moslems, lies about a 'tolerant', 'peaceful' ISLAM, is often delivered as part of a moslem 'inter-faith dialogue', with people of other faiths.




DECEIT EXAMPLE #3,
GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO A *MOSLEM* AUDIENCE
Use children as troops, says cleric [Sheik Feiz Mohammed]
January 18, 2007
..."We want to have children and offer them as soldiers...Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior). Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."
......"The peak, the pinnacle, the crest, the highest point, the pivot, the summit of Islam is jihad," he declares in the film, before denouncing "kaffirs" (non-Muslims).
"Kaffir is the worst word ever written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, filth, a sign of dirt."
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=94224
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php

#3,
SAME GOOD MOSLEM SPEAKS TO NON-MOSLEM AUDIENCE - blatant deceit
Fiery Australian cleric claims jihad remarks were misunderstood
"The jihad I speak of is not one of violence,"...
"I don't believe in suicide bombing. I don't believe in violence against others," he said. "We denounce that. This is not Islamic law and it is not moral."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/fiery-australian-cleric-claims-jihad-remarks-were-misunderstood.html

Sheik Feiz declares;
"....violence against others,..This is not Islamic law and it is not moral.";

In the face of this open declaration in the Koran.....

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123





Raymond Ibrahim: How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
[in dealings with infidels, moslems should....] Preach peace when weak, wage war when strong.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/01/raymond-ibrahim-how-circumstance-dictates-islamic-behavior.html


And there are lots, lots, more examples available of the moslem deceit and duplicity, in their everyday 'conversation' with non-moslems.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 27th, 2012 at 3:11pm

freediver wrote on Jan 27th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
Abu, how come sometimes you say that the arabic word has subtly different meanings to the English, whereas other times (eg treason) you insist that the Islamic meaning is the one true meaning, so for example treason and apostasy are actually the same thing and you cannot tell the difference any more, even when it comes to non-Muslim Americans committing treason.


First and foremost the Qur'an is in Arabic, the meanings of the words are not beholden to a "rough translation" into English. You can't seem to fathom this one.

In Arabic the word wali simply does not mean friend as we understand it in English. As an example, the governor of a province is also called a wali... can the English word "friend" also be used in this context? Definitely not. It's also the word for "saint", can the English word "friend" be used in this context? Again, definitely not. If you cannot comprehend that semantic mappings do not identically map over between languages, then I'm afraid I'm banging my head against a brick wall. The Arabic word that most accurately resembles the English "friend" is either sadiq or sahib, and even then it's still a little different. But wali is nothing like the English word at all.

That has nothing to do with the word for apostasy and treason in Islam though, so please don't try to confuse the two because you obviously don't understand either.

Now onto apostasy.

The Islamic word translated as apostasy is riddah, and it's meanings are: defection, desertion, backsliding, apostasy, lapse. As you can see it could quite easily cover both the meanings of apostasy and treason in English.

What is more important though is that the Islamic texts which describe riddah describe it as an act of defection, desertion and treason.

"The blood of a man who is a Muslim is not lawful (i.e. cannot be lawfully shed), save if he belongs to one of three (classes): a married man who is an adulterer; life for a life (i.e. for murder); one who is a deserter of his religion, abandoning the community.”

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 27th, 2012 at 6:33pm

Quote:
First and foremost the Qur'an is in Arabic, the meanings of the words are not beholden to a "rough translation" into English. You can't seem to fathom this one.


You got it backwards Abu. You are claiming that English is somehow beholden to the Arabic - that the definition of treason depends on the death penalty for apostasy. At first your line was that it was 'related to' treason but you have since changed to pretending you can no longer tell the difference between apostasy and treason.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:09am
I've claimed no such thing. We're talking about Islamic concepts. Their definitions come from Arabic, and specifically from the shari'ah meanings of the terms in the Islamic texts.

Riddah in that context means something like apostasy-treason-desertion-defection. All of these concepts rolled into one.

Wali in the context of that verse means guardian-protector-ally-friends. All of these concepts rolled into one.

No single one of these English words alone will suffice to describe the word in the verse, hence the reason some translators just transliterated the word, then put several of these meanings in brackets.

As I said, if that's beyond your understanding, then I am wasting my time. Only a simpleton would insist all languages must have a 1 to 1 mapping for each and every word/concept pair.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 28th, 2012 at 12:53pm

Quote:
Only a simpleton would insist all languages must have a 1 to 1 mapping for each and every word/concept pair.


But that is exactly what you are doing, by insisting that the death penalty for apostasy under Islam can only be compared to the death penalty for treason and cannot be compared to freedom of religion or freedom of thought. Every time the issue of apostasy comes up, you insist it is a non-issue because McCarthy executed a few spies.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:00pm
Not at all. I've made it quite clear on numerous occasions that the Islamic concept can be translated to cover both apostasy and treason. You just refuse to listen, as you've got it in your head it's some kind of ruse to avoid it being apostasy that is a capital offence, to cheat you out of your "gotcha".

I've never claimed apostasy isn't a capital offence, merely highlighted the fact that apostasy in Islam overlaps with the concept of treason in the West, which in most countries is a capital offence.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:21pm
The question is settled then: Is Islam a religion AND  political association? Yes, it is both.

The only question remaining is whether it is a political association based on religion or a religious association based on politics. In other words, which one is it more important aspect, religion or politics.

Is the death penalty more for leaving the religion or more for leaving the political entity of Islam?  For the western mind, used to the separation of secular and ecclesiastical law, this is important.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:33pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:00pm:
Not at all. I've made it quite clear on numerous occasions that the Islamic concept can be translated to cover both apostasy and treason. You just refuse to listen, as you've got it in your head it's some kind of ruse to avoid it being apostasy that is a capital offence, to cheat you out of your "gotcha".

I've never claimed apostasy isn't a capital offence, merely highlighted the fact that apostasy in Islam overlaps with the concept of treason in the West, which in most countries is a capital offence.


You seem very comfortable changing your tune Abu:


abu_rashid wrote on Jan 26th, 2012 at 8:28pm:
fd, as you've been informed on more than one occasion, Islam is a nation (ummah), and abandoning it is indeed treason.



Quote:
You're just trying to enforce your own personal view about treason, nation etc. onto the discussion.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:39pm

Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
The question is settled then: Is Islam a religion AND  political association? Yes, it is both.

The only question remaining is whether it is a political association based on religion or a religious association based on politics. In other words, which one is it more important aspect, religion or politics.

Is the death penalty more for leaving the religion or more for leaving the political entity of Islam?  For the western mind, used to the separation of secular and ecclesiastical law, this is important.


Did Moses separate religion and politics? David? Solomon?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:41pm
You left out Jesus.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 28th, 2012 at 7:27pm

Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
The question is settled then: Is Islam a religion AND  political association? Yes, it is both.


From the Western secular perspective, yes.

From the perspective of the monotheist, there can be no separation between the two, since absolute belief in the oneness of God requires one to adhere to all of God's laws in all aspects of life. Judeo-Christian traditions once held this to be true, but since their beliefs became so corrupted and so divergent from their original message, the people ended up abandoning them as being unable to be adhered to. Islam suffered no such corruption.


Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
The only question remaining is whether it is a political association based on religion or a religious association based on politics. In other words, which one is it more important aspect, religion or politics.


Again a mix-up of the Western secular need to part the two. In reality politics and religion are the exact same thing. Both of them organise the affairs of humanity.


Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
Is the death penalty more for leaving the religion or more for leaving the political entity of Islam?  For the western mind, used to the separation of secular and ecclesiastical law, this is important.


The separation between the two in Islam is non-existent, so the question is moot.

It is for riddah, which occupies both spaces that Western societies have separated into two, not for one to the exclusion of the other.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Jan 28th, 2012 at 7:51pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 7:27pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
The question is settled then: Is Islam a religion AND  political association? Yes, it is both.


From the Western secular perspective, yes.

From the perspective of the monotheist, there can be no separation between the two, since absolute belief in the oneness of God requires one to adhere to all of God's laws in all aspects of life. Judeo-Christian traditions once held this to be true, but since their beliefs became so corrupted and so divergent from their original message, the people ended up abandoning them as being unable to be adhered to. Islam suffered no such corruption.


Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
The only question remaining is whether it is a political association based on religion or a religious association based on politics. In other words, which one is it more important aspect, religion or politics.


Again a mix-up of the Western secular need to part the two. In reality politics and religion are the exact same thing. Both of them organise the affairs of humanity.


Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:21pm:
Is the death penalty more for leaving the religion or more for leaving the political entity of Islam?  For the western mind, used to the separation of secular and ecclesiastical law, this is important.


The separation between the two in Islam is non-existent, so the question is moot.

It is for riddah, which occupies both spaces that Western societies have separated into two, not for one to the exclusion of the other.



This is why Islam is absolutely incompatible with the western liberal, enlightenment tradition. Islam is the avowed enemy of everything the west stands for.

This is why treating Islam as if it was just about people wanting to bring up their kids like everyone else is huge mistake.

Islam is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for most of its existence, until about the '70s. Another fvckup by leftie numpties. Islam is not a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences.





Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:04pm

freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:41pm:
You left out Jesus.


Jesus was not in a position to implement God's laws, but he certainly criticised the rabbis for abandoning and worshipping money.

John the Baptist was murdered for criticisng the Jewish government of his time.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:08pm

falah wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:04pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:41pm:
You left out Jesus.


Jesus was not in a position to implement God's laws, but he certainly criticised the rabbis for abandoning and worshipping money.

John the Baptist was murdered for criticisng the Jewish government of his time.



BAGHDAD, Jan. 27 (Xinhua) -- A suicide car bomb attack rattled Iraqi capital city Baghdad on Friday, killing at least 31 people and injuring 60 others, an interior ministry source said.



Why were those Muslims murdered by other Muslims?


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 28th, 2012 at 9:37pm

Quote:
Islam suffered no such corruption.


Which is why it was so easy for Muslims to rebuild the Caliphate?


Quote:
John the Baptist was murdered for criticisng the Jewish government of his time.


Sounds like a hippy to me.


Quote:
Why were those Muslims murdered by other Muslims?


Probably Shites murdered by Muslims. You have to get the terminology correct or Abu won't respond.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 28th, 2012 at 10:01pm

Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 7:51pm:
This is why Islam is absolutely incompatible with the western liberal, enlightenment tradition. Islam is the avowed enemy of everything the west stands for.


Of course Islam as a state ideology is not compatible with any other ideology, wouldn't that go without saying?

Your claim by extension that therefore a Muslim cannot live in a Western society is not accurate though. The two are completely different issues, and if you had half a neuron floating around in that skull of yours, I think you would've known that.


Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 7:51pm:
This is why treating Islam as if it was just about people wanting to bring up their kids like everyone else is huge mistake.


The West does not treat Islam, as a state ideology, because it does not currently exist as such. Didn't you just admit to this recently?


Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 7:51pm:
Islam is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for most of its existence .... Islam is not a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences.


Islam the first state ideology to establish a truly multicultural state. This is simple historical fact.


Soren wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 7:51pm:
Why were those Muslims murdered by other Muslims?


Why did the French murder tens of thousands of their own people after the fall of the Vichy regime? And many during its existence?

When part of a population collaborates with an occupation force, they can't expect to fare too well in the aftermath when the collaborationist regime begins to fall.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Imperium on Jan 28th, 2012 at 10:16pm
social identity theory processes at work itt

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by gizmo_2655 on Jan 28th, 2012 at 11:04pm

Quote:
John the Baptist was murdered for criticisng the Jewish government of his time.


Actually Herod Antipater was a puppet ruler for the Roman Empire, as was his brother, Herod Archelaus and his father Herod the Great

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 29th, 2012 at 9:07am

Quote:
When part of a population collaborates with an occupation force, they can't expect to fare too well in the aftermath when the collaborationist regime begins to fall.


Abu is this a reference to Shites?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Jan 29th, 2012 at 11:36am

freediver wrote on Jan 27th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

Quote:
First and foremost the Qur'an is in Arabic, the meanings of the words are not beholden to a "rough translation" into English. You can't seem to fathom this one.


You got it backwards Abu. You are claiming that English is somehow beholden to the Arabic - that the definition of treason depends on the death penalty for apostasy. At first your line was that it was 'related to' treason but you have since changed to pretending you can no longer tell the difference between apostasy and treason.


Nothing has changed here since I left almost a year ago, you're still baiting Abu and still 'acting' uneducated and illiterate to prove nothing at all.

Try to 'comprehend' this, Get yourself a really good dictionary AND a thesaurus (I recommend the Oxford Complete wordfinder).

If you think English defines words of one meaning, one definition, try looking up the words that Abu is explaining and you will find that TREASON also means PERFIDY in English and that APOSTACY also means SECESSION ....

Exactly what Abu says of the Arabic words.

No wonder this forum accomplishes nothing of comprehension for WORLD politics and what we are up against.

Until ALL the members here understand that RELIGION (that's ALL ORGANIZED religions) are the basis for our slide into chaos there will never be a change for the better in our lives and lifestyle.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Jan 29th, 2012 at 12:10pm
Here's another comprehension exercise for you Fd, look up FRIEND (with it's myriad definitions), associate and maecenas being just two, then ALLY (also means 'friend') that stems from the Latin Alligare meaning BIND (of) Alloy.

One must be very explicit with English words as well as Arabic ones when 'defining' ones explanation or narrative if one wants to be argumentative ... or understood.

COMPREHENSION!!! ... look it up.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 29th, 2012 at 12:39pm

Quote:
If you think English defines words of one meaning, one definition, try looking up the words that Abu is explaining and you will find that TREASON also means PERFIDY in English and that APOSTACY also means SECESSION ....


Are you suggesting that we cannot discuss treason and apostasy without getting hopelessly confused because they mean the same thing?

How do you feel about the death penalty for Apostasy? Do you agree with Abu that it isn't so bad after all because McCarthy executed a few people for treason? Do you need me to explain my meaning here or is it clear enough?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:17pm
Bravo Jan.

Good luck getting fd and co. to work out how to use dictionaries and thesauruses. They can't see beyond the narrow scope of their blinkers.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:23pm

freediver wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:33pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:00pm:
Not at all. I've made it quite clear on numerous occasions that the Islamic concept can be translated to cover both apostasy and treason. You just refuse to listen, as you've got it in your head it's some kind of ruse to avoid it being apostasy that is a capital offence, to cheat you out of your "gotcha".

I've never claimed apostasy isn't a capital offence, merely highlighted the fact that apostasy in Islam overlaps with the concept of treason in the West, which in most countries is a capital offence.


You seem very comfortable changing your tune Abu:


abu_rashid wrote on Jan 26th, 2012 at 8:28pm:
fd, as you've been informed on more than one occasion, Islam is a nation (ummah), and abandoning it is indeed treason.



Quote:
You're just trying to enforce your own personal view about treason, nation etc. onto the discussion.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:30pm

Jan wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jan 27th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

Quote:
First and foremost the Qur'an is in Arabic, the meanings of the words are not beholden to a "rough translation" into English. You can't seem to fathom this one.


You got it backwards Abu. You are claiming that English is somehow beholden to the Arabic - that the definition of treason depends on the death penalty for apostasy. At first your line was that it was 'related to' treason but you have since changed to pretending you can no longer tell the difference between apostasy and treason.


Nothing has changed here since I left almost a year ago, you're still baiting Abu and still 'acting' uneducated and illiterate to prove nothing at all.

Try to 'comprehend' this, Get yourself a really good dictionary AND a thesaurus (I recommend the Oxford Complete wordfinder).

If you think English defines words of one meaning, one definition, try looking up the words that Abu is explaining and you will find that TREASON also means PERFIDY in English and that APOSTACY also means SECESSION ....

Exactly what Abu says of the Arabic words.

No wonder this forum accomplishes nothing of comprehension for WORLD politics and what we are up against.

Until ALL the members here understand that RELIGION (that's ALL ORGANIZED religions) are the basis for our slide into chaos there will never be a change for the better in our lives and lifestyle.



This is why Islam is absolutely incompatible with the western liberal, enlightenment tradition: religion is politics, politics is religion IN ISLAM.
Islam is the avowed enemy of everything the west stands for.

This is why treating Islam as if it was just about people wanting to bring up their kids like everyone else is huge mistake.

Islam is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for most of its existence, until about the '70s. Another fvckup by leftie numpties. Islam is not a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jan 30th, 2012 at 8:22am

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 30th, 2012 at 5:35am:
After all, the "faceless men" who Abbot claims brought her to power was just Abbot's cowardly way of saying "Zionists". Clearly he didn't wanna utter the word, lest he end his political career.

Obviously they have a lot more power here than any of these tools are smart enough to realise.



Jan wrote on Jan 30th, 2012 at 12:49am:

freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 7:49pm:
So it is true! They really did kill baby Jesus. How can we ever forgive them?


By doing just what your doing ... loving them and hating Arabs.

Hope you feel the same way when they have total control of Oz and you become the brunt of their jokes and experience their evil first hand.



Jan wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:23pm:
I imagine the response would be similar to Bali.


LOL What response was that ... blame the Muslims and respond with verbal hate attacks on civilians.

Bali was a Psyop, just like 9/11.





Jan wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 5:02pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 4:30pm:
So it was the Joos?


You really should learn what a Jew IS and ISN'T.

Learning that one lesson should show you how the Zionist Bankers have achieved owning the worlds wealth, and subjecting the other half of their persona, real Jews, (their safety cover), with conspiracy.

Wealth like energy doesn't get destroyed it merely changes places, from our pockets into theirs.



Jan wrote on Jan 30th, 2012 at 9:28pm:
I recommend every Aussie familiarise themselves with religious history, and also with the Protocols of the 24 Elders of Zion ... a real eye opener and can be traced as actual events throughout modern history ... the Protocols were written over 100 years ago some say by Mayer Amschel Rothschild himself and I tend to believe it judging from his many quotes and actual history of his metioric rise in world banking.

Evil is as Evil does.

Despicable isn't a strong enough word describe the Israeli Zionists and Bankers and their many MEGA Corporations.



Jan wrote on Jan 31st, 2012 at 2:29am:
I'm curious! Why are you running an Australian Politics forum when you are very obviously a Zionist shill.

Jews have always worn the coat of many colours (flags) and hidden in plain sight ... everything they do and say are cloaked in symbolism for all to see but not to 'comprehend'.

I shall have to give your members a lesson in Ausralian Jewry, their symbolism in Australia and their Global agenda.

Shalom!

PS. I not only read (all sides) but I also study and research EVERYTHING.

All you can do is make smug onelines, and ridicule, (a favourite activity of Zionists).



 


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Jan 31st, 2012 at 3:08pm
Freediver's informative response.


abu_rashid wrote on Jan 30th, 2012 at 5:35am:
copy



Jan wrote on Jan 30th, 2012 at 12:49am:
Copy that



Jan wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 3:36pm:
Copy that quote





Jan wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 5:02pm:
Reprise



Jan wrote on Jan 30th, 2012 at 9:28pm:
Re-reprise



Jan wrote on Jan 31st, 2012 at 2:29am:
What!!! nothing to say for yourself


You really are a Zionist's drone FD a very boring one.

Try to keep up.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Jan 31st, 2012 at 3:31pm

Soren wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:30pm:
[quote]
This is why Islam is absolutely incompatible with the western liberal, enlightenment tradition: religion is politics, politics is religion IN ISLAM.
Islam is the avowed enemy of everything the west stands for.

This is why treating Islam as if it was just about people wanting to bring up their kids like everyone else is huge mistake.

Islam is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for most of its existence, until about the '70s. Another fvckup by leftie numpties. Islam is not a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences.


Your philosophy is floundering Soren.

Religion is politics, politics is religion IN ZIONism.

Zionism is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for ALL of its existence, unil TODAY.

Another fvckup by Zionist Traitors is not being a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences in PALESTINE while promoting multiculturalism in Australia.





Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 1st, 2012 at 11:15am

Soren wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:30pm:

Jan wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 11:36am:

freediver wrote on Jan 27th, 2012 at 6:33pm:

Quote:
First and foremost the Qur'an is in Arabic, the meanings of the words are not beholden to a "rough translation" into English. You can't seem to fathom this one.


You got it backwards Abu. You are claiming that English is somehow beholden to the Arabic - that the definition of treason depends on the death penalty for apostasy. At first your line was that it was 'related to' treason but you have since changed to pretending you can no longer tell the difference between apostasy and treason.


Nothing has changed here since I left almost a year ago, you're still baiting Abu and still 'acting' uneducated and illiterate to prove nothing at all.

Try to 'comprehend' this, Get yourself a really good dictionary AND a thesaurus (I recommend the Oxford Complete wordfinder).

If you think English defines words of one meaning, one definition, try looking up the words that Abu is explaining and you will find that TREASON also means PERFIDY in English and that APOSTACY also means SECESSION ....

Exactly what Abu says of the Arabic words.

No wonder this forum accomplishes nothing of comprehension for WORLD politics and what we are up against.

Until ALL the members here understand that RELIGION (that's ALL ORGANIZED religions) are the basis for our slide into chaos there will never be a change for the better in our lives and lifestyle.



This is why Islam is absolutely incompatible with the western liberal, enlightenment tradition: religion is politics, politics is religion IN ISLAM.


Islam is the avowed enemy of everything the west stands for.


This is why treating Islam as if it was just about people wanting to bring up their kids like everyone else is huge mistake.

Islam is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for most of its existence, until about the '70s. Another fvckup by leftie numpties. Islam is not a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences.




ISLAM is the avowed enemy of everything which has any 'un-ISLAMIC' influence.

e.g.
In post Sadam Iraq, some teenagers were murdered at a picnic in a park.
Their crime ?
Believing that they were free to associate together [males and females], and for listening to Western, un-ISLAMIC, music.

Google;
iraq Death at 'immoral' picnic in the park



And i agree totally, with your comment, that ISLAM is absolutely incompatible with the true liberal values still prevalent Western societies.

Dictionary;
liberal = =
1 respectful and accepting of behaviour or opinions different from one’s own; open to new ideas. (of a society, law, etc.) favourable to individual rights and freedoms. Theology, regarding many traditional beliefs as dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change.
2 (in a political context) favouring individual liberty, free trade, and moderate political and social reform.






Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Feb 1st, 2012 at 4:09pm

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 1st, 2012 at 6:23pm
Yadda Wrote:

Quote:
ISLAM is the avowed enemy of everything which has any 'un-ISLAMIC' influence.


yep since 2003 when Sadam's law was toppled ... Saddam (a Sunni) had freed women and allowed them to dress in western clothes and work in government agencies. Then the war not only wiped out Saddam along with his reforms but destroyed a beautiful and historically significant city.  The US piped in the So-called Islamic law, ie. Sharia law hoping they would be more amenable to sharing the wealth in oil and trade in dollars instead of euros.

Whos trying to change who in their own countries? If I were a Muslim I would hate everything WESTERN too.


Quote:
e.g.
In post Sadam Iraq, some teenagers were murdered at a picnic in a park.
Their crime ?
Believing that they were free to associate together [males and females], and for listening to Western, un-ISLAMIC, music.

Google;
iraq Death at 'immoral' picnic in the park:


Snippets from the Googled article:

Quote:
Standing over them as the blows rained down was the man who gave the order, dressed in dark clerical garb and wearing a black turban. Ali recognised him immediately as a follower of Hojatoleslam Moqtada al-Sadr, the radical Shia cleric. Ali realised then that the armed men were members of Hojatoleslam al-Sadr’s Mehdi Army, a private militia that fought American forces last year and is now enforcing its own firebrand version of Islam.

The picnic had run foul of the Islamist powers *(that's the firebrand version not traditional Islam) that increasingly hold sway in the fly-blown southern city, where religious militias rule the streets, forcing women to don the veil and closing down shops that sell alcohol or music.

In the election in January, the battle between secular and religious forces in Basra came down to the ballot box. The main Shia alliance triumphed with 70 per cent of the province’s vote, most of the rest going to a secular rival.

That victory has brought to a head the issue of whether Iraq’s new constitution will adopt Islamic law — or Sharia — as most religious Shia leaders desire.

In Basra, however, Islamic militias already are beginning to apply their own version of that law, without authority from above or any challenge from the police. *(Sounds just like zionism) ... End


Glad you stipulated POST Saddam, ie POST_WAR (when sharia law came into being and Saddam's reforms were thrown out and fanatical shias took the reign via US 'democracy'). 



Quote:
And i agree totally, with your comment, that ISLAM is absolutely incompatible with the true liberal values still prevalent Western societies.


How about Judaism? Where's THEIR liberal values? Of course they're liberal in their war efforts, and liberal with their hate of all religions not Judaic, (even within their own religion Just ask a true Torah Jew about Zionism)


Quote:
Dictionary;
liberal = =
1 respectful and accepting of behaviour or opinions different from one’s own; open to new ideas. (of a society, law, etc.) favourable to individual rights and freedoms. Theology, regarding many traditional beliefs as dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change.
2 (in a political context) favouring individual liberty, free trade, and moderate political and social reform.


lets comprehend what is written here:
liberal = =
'Respectful and accepting of behaviour or opinions different from one’s own' ... Just how respectful have we been of Libya, Syria, and Iran's behaviours and opinions?

Open to new ideas (of a society, law, etc.) ... was the coalition open to the new ideas of society and laws of Saddam and Gaddafi? or open to accepting new ideas about others trading laws and debt free currancy?

favourable to individual rights and freedoms: LOL I'll let that one stand on it's own.

Theology, regarding many traditional beliefs as dispensable, invalidated by modern thought, or liable to change. So when do we westerners DISPENSE with traditional theological beliefs? (that the zionist government wants to do, so I guess that's liberal. Can't have Catholic traditions overlapping protestant ones). INVALIDATE theology by modern thought ... That's in the PROTOCOLS too. Liable to change: That depends entirely on the INDIVIDUAL in western culture but it aint happened yet.

Lotsa yin and yang in theology there. Reading Protocol 14 should clariy it.

Let's examine Christianity and it's coat of many colours, How many denominations are there? (Sorry too many to print here!!!).
Are there any 'firebrands" among them? How about fanatical? fundamental? Has all of these versions of religiosity bought about peace? agreement? how about co-operation? acceptance?

Then there's Satanism popular with US leaders.
Google; Bohemian Grove fact sheet

At least in Islam are only three, Sunni, Shia and Sufi (Whirling Dervishes), both Sunni and Shia have their fanatical counterparts but like our Christian fanaticals they are not considered to be true Muslims, however most westerners classify them collectively as Islam which is like saying Protestants are Catholic.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 1st, 2012 at 7:12pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 11:15am:
[quote]This is why Islam is absolutely incompatible with the western liberal, enlightenment tradition: religion is politics, politics is religion IN ISLAM.

Islam is the avowed enemy of everything the west stands for.

This is why treating Islam as if it was just about people wanting to bring up their kids like everyone else is huge mistake.

Islam is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for most of its existence, until about the '70s. Another fvckup by leftie numpties. Islam is not a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences.


You much prefer Zionist Jews ... RIGHT!!!

They reflect your Ideology so accurately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSAM3VF-Bl8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdeqXQPW7TM&feature=endscreen&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSxo5qGPgQ8&feature=endscreen&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfQu5HFZQPY&feature=related

Parasites don't even begin to describe these excuses for humanity





Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:13pm

Jan wrote on Jan 31st, 2012 at 3:31pm:

Soren wrote on Jan 29th, 2012 at 8:30pm:
[quote]
This is why Islam is absolutely incompatible with the western liberal, enlightenment tradition: religion is politics, politics is religion IN ISLAM.
Islam is the avowed enemy of everything the west stands for.

This is why treating Islam as if it was just about people wanting to bring up their kids like everyone else is huge mistake.

Islam is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for most of its existence, until about the '70s. Another fvckup by leftie numpties. Islam is not a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences.


Your philosophy is floundering Soren.

Religion is politics, politics is religion IN ZIONism.

Zionism is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for ALL of its existence, unil TODAY.

Another fvckup by Zionist Traitors is not being a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences in PALESTINE while promoting multiculturalism in Australia.


The Jews want their ONE tiny country to themselves - ain't that outrageous! The Arab Muslims have about 20 and apart from the ones on the Arabian peninsula, all of them conquered from other people who were not hostile when they were overrun by Arab hordes.

The Arab Muslims have never ever given Jews, or even their own people,  the freedoms that Arabs enjoy in Israel. So they - you - are not in a position to point a finger at anyone: there is infinitely more religious and cultural freedom in Israel than anywhere Muslim.

Get back to me when Muslims in their own countries have as much freedom and as many rights as Muslims in Israel.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:28pm
So the Jews have in fact liberated the Arabs from the depravities of the Muslim communities they were suffering in?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:31pm

Quote:
If I were a Muslim I would hate everything WESTERN too.


So you are not a Muslim? Why do you hate Jews then? Are you a Nazi?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:35pm

freediver wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:28pm:
So the Jews have in fact liberated the Arabs from the depravities of the Muslim communities they were suffering in?



Indeed.

There is no Muslim Arab emmigration from Israel into Muslim Arab countries. They are not that stupid.

The vast majority of Israeli Muslims would not move even to a Palestinian state, should on emerge.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:38pm

freediver wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Quote:
If I were a Muslim I would hate everything WESTERN too.


So you are not a Muslim? Why do you hate Jews then? Are you a Nazi?


And also - if she isn't a Muslim, why does she hate the West then? Is she a Numpty?


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:52am

freediver wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:31pm:

Quote:
If I were a Muslim I would hate everything WESTERN too.


So you are not a Muslim? Why do you hate Jews then? Are you a Nazi?


I'm a fifth generation Aussie of Scots ancestry. What part of Isreal did you crawl out of, You should go and fight the good fight with your Zionist friends, instead of shilling for them here, (or is that the real Plan).

I hate ZIONISTS Jews, not Torah true Jews,... They are the only people on earth to whinge and whine for hundreds of years, for being hated because of their money grubbing, usury ways, and for owning more than half the worlds wealth while starving millions of children, for waging war on a people that have not and never had an army, and blaming every other country for their savagery. Because the ZIONISTS betrayed their own people to the Nazis and then invented the holocaust to gain the sympathy of the christian world.

Then the Zionists betrayed every ally they had by implimenting the only LAWS in the world to silence free speech with the word Anti-Semitic, to protect themselves, but which only really applies to Sephardic JEWS, and ARABS.

Every post you make you expose more of your traitorous nature towards Australia and the rest of the world.

Shalom   

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:58am

Soren wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:38pm:
[And also - is she isn't a Muslim, why does she hate the West then? Is she a Numpty?


Are you completely illiterate or is it just your comprehension of the written word? Or is it just your Zionist nature to ridicule for 'effect'?

I said IF I were Muslim. You know IF, it's that little word that makes a BIG statement.

Your slip is showing.

Shalom

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:58am

Soren wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:35pm:
Indeed.

There is no Muslim Arab emmigration from Israel into Muslim Arab countries. They are not that stupid.

The vast majority of Israeli Muslims would not move even to a Palestinian state, should on emerge.


So the Muslims living in occupied Palestine should leave their homes? That is what you want isn't it Soren, a complete genocide? You believe that if there is not 100% complete genocide of Palestinians by Jews, then Muslim countries must be bad?




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:05pm

Jan wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 7:12pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 11:15am:

Quote:
This is why Islam is absolutely incompatible with the western liberal, enlightenment tradition: religion is politics, politics is religion IN ISLAM.

Islam is the avowed enemy of everything the west stands for.

This is why treating Islam as if it was just about people wanting to bring up their kids like everyone else is huge mistake.

Islam is hostile, not compatible. It should be treated as such. It has been for most of its existence, until about the '70s. Another fvckup by leftie numpties. Islam is not a signatory to the multicultural settlement of cultural differences.




You much prefer Zionist Jews ... RIGHT!!!



They reflect your Ideology so accurately.

Parasites don't even begin to describe these excuses for humanity




Jan,
Do you hate God too [.....along with hating all Zionists] ???

Or are you an atheist ??? [i.e. and you choose hate God, that way too ???]        :Di



Jan wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:52am:

I hate ZIONISTS Jews......,...



Too bad.

But totally expected.







"Geert Wilders, my hero, coming to Australia"
.......
n.b.
The chief 'Zionist', is the God of Israel.
.....For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1315352659/47#47








[quote]

"Zionism is the plot by jewish extremists to steal the land around Jerusalem."



Isaiah 14:31
Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.
32  What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.
i
+++

Psalms 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 4:31pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:05pm:
[quote]
Jan,
Do you hate God too [.....along with hating all Zionists] ???

Or are you an atheist ??? [i.e. and you choose hate God, that way too ???]  :D


Thanks for asking this Yadda it's time I reiterate on my beliefs.

I believe in GOD ... the REAL god, not the 'biblical' fiction that was invented by man in order to control minds and influence thoughts and emotions.

I believe in the God that genuinely created us and gave us freewill (in everything we do), not a god who demands obediance and submission and pits one religion against another in order to to achieve glory, (that attitude can only come from the lunatic writings of man, not God).

That's why I am vehemently against RELIGION of any kind, (sorry Abu and Falah but that includes Islam too).

Zionists are the atheists they USE religion to attain their goal of owning the world, not just lil ol' Palestine.

I sympahize with ALL people who are copping sh1t from Zionists, (Professed Jews, Christians, Muslims, athiests, whatever), and I will fight and speak up for the oppressed and down-trodden as long as I draw breath.

Everyone has the right to believe as he/she wants and to practice any religion they want as long as it doesn't hurt another.

The reason you are sooooooo into religion and quote the bible so regularly is because it's your only source of inspiration ... try listening to your inner voice, like conscience. God gave us all empathy, and conscience but religion is drowning out the true voice of
god.


GIVE GOD A CHANCE. God never told us to war against each other and destroy his creations, MAN did..

 


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 5:12pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Quote:
"Geert Wilders, my hero, coming to Australia"

n.b.
The chief 'Zionist', is the God of Israel.
.....For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation.


[quote]
"Zionism is the plot by jewish extremists to steal the land around Jerusalem."


Isaiah 14:31
Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palaestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.
32  What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.

Psalms 9:17
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God
[/quote]

*The zionist scribes predicted that one right, Israel has turned into a hellhole. After all they did plan well ahead of time, they just forgot they would be in the middle (east) of their created hell.

Thanks for these biblical quotes. NB "even Isaiah (8th century BC)recognised that the land was PALESTINE")

They prove without question that this is NOT what a true creator would tell his creations.

GOD did NOT write the bible babble ... MAN DID!





Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 5:55pm

Quote:
So the Muslims living in occupied Palestine should leave their homes? That is what you want isn't it Soren, a complete genocide?


I don't think leaving home counts as genocide.


Quote:
and I will fight and speak up for the oppressed and down-trodden as long as I draw breath


By ranting about zionist jew money lenders?


Quote:
Everyone has the right to believe as he/she wants and to practice any religion they want as long as it doesn't hurt another.


So you are not a big fan of say, the death penalty for apostasy?

Jan, what would happen if someone collected all your writings and put them in a book and proclaimed it to be true? Another holocaust?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 6:22pm

Jan wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 12:58am:

Soren wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:38pm:
[And also - if she isn't a Muslim, why does she hate the West then? Is she a Numpty?


Are you completely illiterate or is it just your comprehension of the written word? Or is it just your Zionist nature to ridicule for 'effect'?

I said IF I were Muslim. You know IF, it's that little word that makes a BIG statement.

Your slip is showing.

Shalom



That's what I said, you seething, stupid numpty (no 'if' there)- why do you hate the west so much if you are not a Muslim.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 6:53pm

falah wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 9:58am:

Soren wrote on Feb 1st, 2012 at 8:35pm:
Indeed.

There is no Muslim Arab emmigration from Israel into Muslim Arab countries. They are not that stupid.

The vast majority of Israeli Muslims would not move even to a Palestinian state, should on emerge.


So the Muslims living in occupied Palestine should leave their homes?



Well, they are suffering genocide, as you say. But they all - ALL - seem to prefer that 'genocide'.
Curious.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 8:08pm

freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 5:55pm:

Quote:
and I will fight and speak up for the oppressed and down-trodden as long as I draw breath


By ranting about zionist jew money lenders?

[quote]Everyone has the right to believe as he/she wants and to practice any religion they want as long as it doesn't hurt another.


So you are not a big fan of say, the death penalty for apostasy?

Jan, what would happen if someone collected all your writings and put them in a book and proclaimed it to be true? Another holocaust?[/quote]

Your'e such a dildo Fd. Why don't you ask intelligent questions instead of trying to spread your Zionist ridicule.

Yes ranting about Zionist Jew money lenders is a great way to have people scrambling for evidence to disprove what I have said, and Bingo! find to their utter surprise that everything I said is TRUE. Guess I'll have to start posting the Zionist Jew money lenders historical (and todays) FACTS.

Hey they even had some Banking fraudulent practices on ACA tonight, I hope you caught it?

Apostasy is a word used in religion. Religion is as religion does.

I would love it if 'anyone' collected my writings, they would be exposed to the truth of religion and the truth of the one true God, not the BS of the biblical G-d who reads like a schizomaniac psychopath. (which Zionist scribes actually were).

Baiting me to comment about the holocaust. [smiley=kiss.gif] Ok no probs, I'll gladly comment on the Russian Holocaust, instigated by Ashkenazi Russian Jews ... a holocaust like no other holocaust in the world, that killed Twenty (20) Million, and murdered the Czar and his whole family, and not a whimper or a whine today after 95 years.

Unlike the insignificant six (6) million, that Jews had to create laws, to protect them from 'exposure'.

Truth needs no law to support it. Truth is self-evident to all. Truth withstands re-examination. Truth survives questions. Throughout history, from Galileo to Zundel, only lies and liars have resorted to the courts to enforce adherence to dogma.

Howzat!!!




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 8:21pm

Quote:
Yes ranting about Zionist Jew money lenders is a great way to have people scrambling for evidence to disprove what I have said, and Bingo! find to their utter surprise that everything I said is TRUE.


So the burden of proof is on everyone else to disprove your Jew hating?


Quote:
Apostasy is a word used in religion. Religion is as religion does.


So you are indifferent to people being stoned to death for changing their mind about religion? It seems to me that it is not religion you have a problem with, but Jews. I am curious why you are so quick to come to the defence of Muslims, given that their ideology is about as far from what you claims yours to be as it is possible to get.


Quote:
I would love it if 'anyone' collected my writings, they would be exposed to the truth of religion and the truth of the one true God, not the BS of the biblical G-d who reads like a schizomaniac psychopath. (which Zionist scribes actually were).


Why don't you collect it and get it published?


Quote:
Unlike the insignificant six (6) million


So money lending by wealthy Jews is a big problem, but not this?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by blackadder on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 8:21pm
Q. Why should they use Muslims instead of laboratory rats in experiments?

A. Muslims breed faster and you won't get so attached to them.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Lestat on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:44am

blackadder wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 8:21pm:
Q. Why should they use Muslims instead of laboratory rats in experiments?

A. Muslims breed faster and you won't get so attached to them.


WOW...thats hillarious.

How bout this one....

Q: Whats the difference between BlackAdder and a bucket of Sh(t.

A: The bucket.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Lestat on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:45am
FD...an Islamophobe having a go at Falah for being 'anti-semetic'.

lol...the irony is delicious.

Your not to bright are you FD....you can't see the glaring hypocricy...can you?

I didn't think so. lol

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:45am
So what do you think Les? Are Jews parasites?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Lestat on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:52am

freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:45am:
So what do you think Les? Are Jews parasites?


No I don't...as for you...I'm not so sure.

How bout you answer a question for once FD. Are muslims parasites? How do you feel about muslims....tell us what you really think (though we already know....)

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:58am
I think Muslims chose the wrong political ideology.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by blackadder on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 9:07am
True story.


Mohammed heard one of his wives was leaving him, so he rushed home where he found her on the carpet in front of the tent with her belongings; he sat beside her and said, “I heard you were planning to leave me?”
She replied, “Yes, I heard your other wives saying you were a pedophile!”


Mohammed thinks for a minute or so and then responds, “that's a mighty big word for a 6 year old."

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Lestat on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 9:13am

freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:58am:
I think Muslims chose the wrong political ideology.



You didn't answer my question? I'll ask again.

Do you think muslims are parasites?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 10:37am

Jan wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 4:31pm:

Everyone has the right to believe as he/she wants and to practice any religion they want as long as it doesn't hurt another.



Jan,

I thank you.

I absolutely agree with your expressed sentiment.







Jan wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 4:31pm:

The reason you are sooooooo into religion and quote the bible so regularly is because it's your only source of inspiration ... try listening to your inner voice, like conscience. God gave us all empathy, and conscience but religion is drowning out the true voice of
god.



GIVE GOD A CHANCE. God never told us to war against each other and destroy his creations, MAN did..

 



Jan.....
"......try listening to your inner voice, like conscience."


Jan,

Again, i absolutely agree with your expressed sentiment.





The 'conscience'.

Jan,

Yes, i read and study the bible.

as i have said before.....

Quote:
IMO, reading the Bible is a form of spiritual invocation.





And in the night, i [sometimes] also have dreams and visions.

From time to time, 'awake' in my dreams [at night], i also have conversations with angels.




Later, when i am awake in my body, i do not 'hear voices' in my head.

Never have.

[And if i did, knowing what i know, i would be very worried.]


But yes, i listen to my conscience [i do listen to that 'voice'].

And my experience is that, the more we listen [i.e. 'follow the advice'] to our 'conscience', the more our 'conscience' will speak to us.

Is our conscience, the 'voice' of the spirit of God ?

I have a strong 'feeling' about that.




+++

I am sorry that you judge the Jewish people so, so, harshly.

They are just like you and me.

Just like you and me, they are flawed.

p.s.

You should try to read the Psalms.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 11:49am

Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 10:37am:

And my experience is that, the more we listen [i.e. 'follow the advice'] to our 'conscience', the more our 'conscience' will speak to us.

Is our conscience, the 'voice' of the spirit of God ?

I have a strong 'feeling' about that.



My experience is that, the 'conscience' is not only a moral guide, but that, if we follow its advice, the 'conscience' can also protect us from imminent danger.





The conscience.

Not just our moral 'guide', to keep us on the 'correct' path.

But it can also be our protector, from imminent harm.





Dictionary;
conscience = = a person’s moral sense of right and wrong.






Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 12:24pm

Lestat wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 9:13am:

freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:58am:
I think Muslims chose the wrong political ideology.



You didn't answer my question? I'll ask again.

Do you think muslims are parasites?


No.

See, that's what a straight answer looks like.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 4:13pm

Yadda I wish you would not send such messy posts. try and keep them tidy and you might find people will take more notice, also enough of the bible quotes, they prove nothing except they were written by man, most are parables, the rest are mans version of God, ie how they perceive him or how they want YOU to perceive him.



Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 10:37am:

Jan wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 4:31pm:
Everyone has the right to believe as he/she wants and to practice any religion they want as long as it doesn't hurt another.

Jan,

I thank you.
I absolutely agree with your expressed sentiment.

Jan wrote on Feb 2nd, 2012 at 4:31pm:

The reason you are sooooooo into religion and quote the bible so regularly is because it's your only source of inspiration ... try listening to your inner voice, like conscience. God gave us all empathy, and conscience but religion is drowning out the true voice of
god.


GIVE GOD A CHANCE. God never told us to war against each other and destroy his creations, MAN did..




Quote:
"......try listening to your inner voice, like conscience."

Again, i absolutely agree with your expressed sentiment. The 'conscience'.

Yes, i read and study the bible. as i have said before.....
[quote]IMO, reading the Bible is a form of spiritual invocation.


We all experience 'Spirituality', we feel it through beautiful words, you see beauty in the words of the bible, but those beautiful words hide a sinister 'agenda'. We feel it through beautiful music, Many hymns can evoke spiritual feelings, as does many beautiful things in nature, like a new born baby, a sparkling waterfall, a beatiful animal with it's baby, sunsets, beautiful flowers, trees, Clouds, ad infinitum.

Look and listen to these things and think about God, and you'll understand what I am saying


[quote]And in the night, i [sometimes] also have dreams and visions.

From time to time, 'awake' in my dreams [at night], i also have conversations with angels.


Everyone dreams even if they don't remember them, some people have visions and some are prophetic in nature. But having conversations with angels stems from your over religiousity.

I believe angels exist in the form of 'guardians' but they don't 'speak', and are not visible, again you believe too fervently in the words of man.



Quote:
Later, when i am awake in my body, i do not 'hear voices' in my head. Never have.[And if i did, knowing what i know, i would be very worried.]


Your inner voice is not 'heard' it is FELT, from within, it is an emotion. And I would worry just a little about those conversations you have with angels too ... God really does work in mysterious ways ... He provided us with the necessary 'tools' to deal with problems for ourselves, intelligence, a thought processor, emotions, conscience and freewill. The true God does not judge, freewill makes us our own judge and jury.

The man written so-called holy books have stolen Gods 'authority' and use the words for their own agenda, To CONTROL. So although we have just one God in the holy books they are driven by different mind-sets.

Yin and Yang, but being man driven they never make a 'whole' only an abyss of misery.


But yes, i listen to my conscience [i do listen to that 'voice'].


Quote:
And my experience is that, the more we listen [i.e. 'follow the advice'] to our 'conscience', the more our 'conscience' will speak to us.

Is our conscience, the 'voice' of the spirit of God ? I have a strong 'feeling' about that.


Yes, in a convoluted way,

God doesn't 'speak to us', we were given all the information we need to understand how we should live and act towards one another in our DNA and our 'spirit'/soul.

I also do not like the word God as it is used by Satanists and the illuminati in reverse. I prefer 'the Creator' because that is what he really is, and it cant be misconstrued or misused. I only use God for people like yourself who just don't 'get it', yet.



Quote:
I am sorry that you judge the Jewish people so, so, harshly.

They are just like you and me.

Just like you and me, they are flawed.

p.s.
You should try to read the Psalms.


I have read the bible many times, ALL of it. I study both sides of every problem 'in depth. I've never been a one to be squeamish about studying that which I disagree with, it's the only way to get to the truth,. The psalms were written by 'Jews', Greeks and Romans.

But a correction here, I don't 'judge' REAL Torah true Jews. I have been telling people that for many years.

The ones I judge harshly are the ones who have taken control of our lives and our spirit. The ones who whinge and whine about how history has treated them while all the time treating others even worse ... They are ZIONISTS who are NOT of ANY religion other than the religion of POWER.

Zionists of today are from any nationality and any so-called religion, they simply hide within a 'host', like the parisites they are, feeding off you, me, and the entire human race.

And the sooner we realise that the sooner we will be free to act like normal human beings, as The Creator intended.






Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 4:22pm

freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 12:24pm:
[quote]No.

See, that's what a straight answer looks like.


You never answer with a 'staight' answer Fd

Even your 'yes', 'no' answers have a hidden agenda.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 7:02pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 10:37am:
Jan.....
"......try listening to your inner voice, like conscience."


Which voices were you listening to when you said you would kill every Palestinian?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 7:08pm

Jan wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 4:22pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 12:24pm:
[quote]No.

See, that's what a straight answer looks like.


You never answer with a 'staight' answer Fd

Even your 'yes', 'no' answers have a hidden agenda.


Care to take a guess what my hidden agenda is?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 4th, 2012 at 1:31am

falah wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 7:02pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 10:37am:
Jan.....
"......try listening to your inner voice, like conscience."


Which voices were you listening to when you said you would kill every Palestinian?


Yadda didnt say that, I did. Howerver he did quote me on that one and said:

"And my experience is that, the more we listen [i.e. 'follow the advice'] to our 'conscience', the more our 'conscience' will speak to us.

Is our conscience, the 'voice' of the spirit of God ?

I have a strong 'feeling' about that."


I had forgotten it was he/she who said they would kill every Muslim, in another thread ... I suspect Yadda says things for effect, and to get another post up, leaving harmful (to 'them') posts far behind, hoping other members miss them in the barage of idiotic comments. Like the other Muslim haters on this forum.

Seems Yadda doesn't listen to his inner voice very often.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:30am
So Jan, who does your inner voice tell you to kill?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Feb 4th, 2012 at 10:50am

freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:30am:
So Jan, who does your inner voice tell you to kill?

Freediver do you listen to "voices"?



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm
Jan,

Thank you for your reply, post #72.





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falah wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 7:02pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 10:37am:
Jan.....
"......try listening to your inner voice, like conscience."


Which voices were you listening to when you said you would kill every Palestinian?





That was a very impolitic thing for me to say.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1326366655/3#3

And yet, as i look at that image again [the bodies in the bus], i know that i could so easily utter those words again.





What voice am i listening to?

Perhaps it is the voice that says;

The 'Palestinians' are a false witness against Israel.



Deuteronomy 19:16
If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
17  Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18  And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19  Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
20  And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you.
21  And thine eye shall not pity; but life shall go for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.




A judgement against moslems is coming.

But then, a judgement against us all is coming.

Me too.



+++

Dear Father,
I am but flesh.
Please forgive my foolishness, my imaginings, my pride, and my vanity.



Psalms 103:13
Like as a father pitieth his children, so the LORD pitieth them that fear him.
14  For he knoweth our frame; he remembereth that we are dust.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:08pm

freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:30am:
So Jan, who does your inner voice tell you to kill?


Mis-use of words and zionist funded education.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:21pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm:
What voice am i listening to?

Perhaps it is the voice that says;

The 'Palestinians' are a false witness against Israel.


You mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kBib5vuAN4

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:24pm
Or maybe this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYHKc0NOoUY&feature=related

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:55pm

Jan wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:21pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm:
What voice am i listening to?

Perhaps it is the voice that says;

The 'Palestinians' are a false witness against Israel.


You mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kBib5vuAN4



Jan,

YTube links are wasted on me.

I'm on dialup, @ 19 kb/sec.    [i have disabled the video plugin, purposely, so that my system will not start to d/l the video data]


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:56pm

Jan wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:21pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm:
What voice am i listening to?

Perhaps it is the voice that says;

The 'Palestinians' are a false witness against Israel.


You mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kBib5vuAN4



Jan,

YTube links are wasted on me.

I'm on dialup, @ 19 kb/sec.    [i have disabled the video plugin, purposely, so that my system will not start to d/l the video data]


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by gizmo_2655 on Feb 4th, 2012 at 4:47pm

Jan wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:21pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm:
What voice am i listening to?

Perhaps it is the voice that says;

The 'Palestinians' are a false witness against Israel.


You mean like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kBib5vuAN4


Jan, do you know WHY the ultra-Orthodox say the Israel isn't a Jewish state????
And why they dislike the concept of Zionism??

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:35pm
Islam's pretensions to purity, honesty, honour are thoroughly discredited. Take it from there.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 5th, 2012 at 1:13am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 4:47pm:

Jan wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:21pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:08pm:
What voice am i listening to?

Perhaps it is the voice that says;

The 'Palestinians' are a false witness against Israel.


You mean like this?




Jan, do you know WHY the ultra-Orthodox say the Israel isn't a Jewish state????

And why they dislike the concept of Zionism??



Excuse me.


It beats me, coz throughout the OT Bible God, states that he, loves Zion.


e.g.

Psalms 69:35
For God will save Zion, and will build the cities of Judah: that they may dwell there, and have it in possession.


Psalms 87:1
His foundation is in the holy mountains.
2  The LORD loveth the gates of Zion more than all the dwellings of Jacob.
3  Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God. Selah.


Searching KJV bible, for the word, Zion.....153 hits.



p.s.

Jerusalem is not mentioned, not even once, in the Koran.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 5th, 2012 at 2:30am

Yadda wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:56pm:
Jan,

YTube links are wasted on me.

I'm on dialup, @ 19 kb/sec.    [i have disabled the video plugin, purposely, so that my system will not start to d/l the video data]


Then you'll just have to remain ignorant.

Don't comment on issues "You can't see" and for crying out loud stop quoting the Jewish bible babble ... It's man written and totally irrelevant in proving anything.

Tell us instead what God Told YOU. (a recording would be nice).

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 5th, 2012 at 2:35am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 4:47pm:
Jan, do you know WHY the ultra-Orthodox say the Israel isn't a Jewish state????
And why they dislike the concept of Zionism??


Yeah I do, but I'd like to hear your version, which I'm sure you were itching to tell me anyway.

You show me yours and I'll show you mine  [smiley=wink.gif]



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:42pm
I don't see anything wrong with Zionism. The Jews want to return to Jewdea. Good idea. They have made an excellent job so far, despite the staggering hostility. Few if any other people would have managed it so well.

Imagine if they weren't hassled and harrassed and attacked constantly. Israel could even kickstart the whole Arab declinocracy. A bit of money, a bit of crativity, some theatre, camera, lights, action - some umpf - the Arabs could begin to make themselves some viable countries, instead of the endless Muslim-on-Muslim action resulting in thousands of deaths.

Zionism is good for you, Mohammed.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:55pm

Soren wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:42pm:
I don't see anything wrong with Zionism. The Jews want to return to Jewdea. Good idea.


They have made an excellent job so far, despite the staggering hostility. Few if any other people would have managed it so well.


Imagine if they weren't hassled and harrassed and attacked constantly. Israel could even kickstart the whole Arab declinocracy. A bit of money, a bit of crativity, some theatre, camera, lights, action - some umpf - the Arabs could begin to make themselves some viable countries, instead of the endless Muslim-on-Muslim action resulting in thousands of deaths.

Zionism is good for you, Mohammed.



Exactly so.

What the Jewish people have achieved in thei ancient homeland has been, ......miraculous ?

Almost as though their God was helping them ?




+++


Jeremiah 23:7
Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
8  But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.


Isaiah 40:1
Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.
3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:51am

Lestat wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 9:13am:

freediver wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:58am:
I think Muslims chose the wrong political ideology.



You didn't answer my question? I'll ask again.

Do you think muslims are parasites?


Well, we don't seem to have a shortage of them in this country.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:12pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:51am:
You didn't answer my question? I'll ask again.

Do you think muslims are parasites?

Well, we don't seem to have a shortage of them in this country.

We don't have a shortage of Jews either, and even more Zionists.

There's more than 150 Jewish/Zionist Organizations in Oz, here's a list of just a few of them, y'all should feel right at home in any or all of them.

http://www.ajds.org.au/

http://aleph.org.au/

http://www.antidef.org.au/

http://www.ecaj.org.au/

http://www.zfa.com.au/

http://home.vtown.com.au/~ftropp/

http://www.j-net.com.au/

http://www.jhc.org.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/jewishemploymentnetwork.htm

http://jewishcare.com.au/cms/

http://www.aijac.org.au/

http://www.aujs.com.au/

http://www.bnaibrith.org.au/    

http://www.capitaljewishforum.org/

http://www.couragetocare.com.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/?Page=friendsof

http://www.jnf.org.au/index.cfm

http://www.join.org.au/

http://www.wizoaustralia.org/

http://www.accessinc.org.au/

http://www.ajhs.info/

http://www.dosinc.org.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/helpp.htm

AJP - Australian Jewish Psychologists
Nicky.Jacobs@education.monash.edu.au

Australia-Israel Friendship Association Inc
PO Box 1058, Belvedere Park LPO Seaford Victoria 3198
aifa@tpg.com.au

Australian Jewish Genealogical Society (Victoria)
ajgs@exist.com.au



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 9th, 2012 at 8:39pm

Jan wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:12pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:51am:
You didn't answer my question? I'll ask again.

Do you think muslims are parasites?

Well, we don't seem to have a shortage of them in this country.

We don't have a shortage of Jews either, and even more Zionists.

There's more than 150 Jewish/Zionist Organizations in Oz, here's a list of just a few of them, y'all should feel right at home in any or all of them.

http://www.ajds.org.au/

http://aleph.org.au/

http://www.antidef.org.au/

http://www.ecaj.org.au/

http://www.zfa.com.au/

http://home.vtown.com.au/~ftropp/

http://www.j-net.com.au/

http://www.jhc.org.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/jewishemploymentnetwork.htm

http://jewishcare.com.au/cms/

http://www.aijac.org.au/

http://www.aujs.com.au/

http://www.bnaibrith.org.au/    

http://www.capitaljewishforum.org/

http://www.couragetocare.com.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/?Page=friendsof

http://www.jnf.org.au/index.cfm

http://www.join.org.au/

http://www.wizoaustralia.org/

http://www.accessinc.org.au/

http://www.ajhs.info/

http://www.dosinc.org.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/helpp.htm

AJP - Australian Jewish Psychologists
Nicky.Jacobs@education.monash.edu.au

Australia-Israel Friendship Association Inc
PO Box 1058, Belvedere Park LPO Seaford Victoria 3198
aifa@tpg.com.au

Australian Jewish Genealogical Society (Victoria)
ajgs@exist.com.au



It just shows how civic minded jews are.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 10th, 2012 at 1:59am

Soren wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 8:39pm:
It just shows how civic minded jews are.


Yeah for Jews!



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Feb 10th, 2012 at 6:16am
So was their God punishing them for the 2000 odd years they were suffering? Was the Holocaust also God's judgement upon them? Seems you don't mind to tie God into it all when it sounds all miraculous and triumphant, yet when it's the opposite, do you also attribute the same?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 11th, 2012 at 1:10am

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 6:16am:

So was their God punishing them for the 2000 odd years they were suffering? Was the Holocaust also God's judgement upon them? Seems you don't mind to tie God into it all when it sounds all miraculous and triumphant, yet when it's the opposite, do you also attribute the same?




Abu,

Forget about 'the Jews' for a moment, if you can.

This life is our trial, or testing.     [imo, that is the ONLY reason we are here.]

Daniel 12:10
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.


Testing for both Jews, and, Gentiles.

Genesis 22:18
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.





I believe that >> we << [all mankind] are, metaphorically, all in the [this] 'wilderness' together [see Deuteronomy, below], not just the Jewish people.

Is God wrong [cruel?] to test us ?

Take it up with God.



God said to his people, the Hebrews......

Deuteronomy 8:1
All the commandments which I command thee this day shall ye observe to do, that ye may live, and multiply, and go in and possess the land which the LORD sware unto your fathers.
2  And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.


Isaiah 40:1
Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God.
2  Speak ye comfortably to Jerusalem, and cry unto her, that her warfare is accomplished, that her iniquity is pardoned: for she hath received of the LORD'S hand double for all her sins.
3  The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.




Abu,

Those who pass God's testing, will be redeemed.

Isaiah 48:10
Behold, I have refined thee, but not with silver; I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.


And the 'others', those who fail ???

Revelation 21:7
He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 11th, 2012 at 2:44pm
The idiots here (zionist supporters) must be the only ones who don't know the dangers of zionism in Australia.

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dirtydigger/



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 11th, 2012 at 3:36pm

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 6:16am:
So was their God punishing them for the 2000 odd years they were suffering? Was the Holocaust also God's judgement upon them? Seems you don't mind to tie God into it all when it sounds all miraculous and triumphant, yet when it's the opposite, do you also attribute the same?


Abu didn't you do exactly the same? Did God have anything to do with the Caliphate's rise to global political power?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Baronvonrort on Feb 11th, 2012 at 3:56pm

Jan wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 2:44pm:
The idiots here (zionist supporters) must be the only ones who don't know the dangers of zionism in Australia.

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dirtydigger/


Jan

Do you have an Intel processor in your computer?

Do the jews make them?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 11th, 2012 at 7:10pm

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 6:16am:
So was their God punishing them for the 2000 odd years they were suffering? Was the Holocaust also God's judgement upon them? Seems you don't mind to tie God into it all when it sounds all miraculous and triumphant, yet when it's the opposite, do you also attribute the same?


And what might you be talking about?


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 12th, 2012 at 1:09am

Soren wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 7:10pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 10th, 2012 at 6:16am:
So was their God punishing them for the 2000 odd years they were suffering? Was the Holocaust also God's judgement upon them? Seems you don't mind to tie God into it all when it sounds all miraculous and triumphant, yet when it's the opposite, do you also attribute the same?


And what might you be talking about?


He's saying that if the Jews, really were God's chosen people, then the Jewish people would be faultless [just like good moslems. /sarc off !!!!  LOL ], and that God would always bless the Jewish people, and never punish them.

As per usual, Abu is wearing his 'moslem logic' 'blinkers'.

i.e.
Abu knows that every argument which Abu makes, makes perfect sense.
While non-moslems wouldn't know what day it is.

LOL



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 13th, 2012 at 5:01pm

Jan wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 3:08pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 8:30am:
So Jan, who does your inner voice tell you to kill?


Mis-use of words and zionist funded education.


Can you elaborate please?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Feb 13th, 2012 at 6:43pm
Well so far it looks like they've spent much more time in a naughty corner than they have on the top of the heap.

Either way, only a half wit would think that dominance in this world necessarily equates to the favour of God.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Feb 13th, 2012 at 6:44pm
btw fd, where's the edit etc. buttons gone?

More importantly when are you going to to do away with this yabb junk and install a proper php based forum?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 14th, 2012 at 7:50pm

abu_rashid wrote on Feb 13th, 2012 at 6:43pm:

Well so far it looks like they've spent much more time in a naughty corner than they have on the top of the heap.


Either way, only a half wit would think that dominance in this world necessarily equates to the favour of God.



That is true Abu,

Jeremiah 13:20
Lift up your eyes, and behold them that come from the north: where is the flock that was given thee, thy beautiful flock?
21  What wilt thou say when he shall punish thee? for thou hast taught them to be captains, and as chief over thee: shall not sorrows take thee, as a woman in travail?
22  And if thou say in thine heart, Wherefore come these things upon me? For the greatness of thine iniquity are thy skirts discovered, and thy heels made bare.
23  Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.
24  Therefore will I scatter them as the stubble that passeth away by the wind of the wilderness.
25  This is thy lot, the portion of thy measures from me, saith the LORD; because thou hast forgotten me, and trusted in falsehood.
26  Therefore will I discover thy skirts upon thy face, that thy shame may appear.
27  I have seen thine adulteries, and thy neighings, the lewdness of thy whoredom, and thine abominations on the hills in the fields. Woe unto thee, O Jerusalem! wilt thou not be made clean? when shall it once be?



Back in the books of Moses, in 'the law' books, God warned the people of Israel, that they would break their covenant, and that he would punish the the people of Israel for their conduct.

Even, that he would scatter the people of Israel, among the 'heathen', among all the peoples of the world.

Deuteronomy 4:26
I call heaven and earth to witness against you this day, that ye shall soon utterly perish from off the land whereunto ye go over Jordan to possess it; ye shall not prolong your days upon it, but shall utterly be destroyed.
27  And the LORD shall scatter you among the nations, and ye shall be left few in number among the heathen, whither the LORD shall lead you.

Deuteronomy 28:64
And the LORD shall scatter thee among all people, from the one end of the earth even unto the other; and there thou shalt serve other gods, which neither thou nor thy fathers have known, even wood and stone.
65  And among these nations shalt thou find no ease, neither shall the sole of thy foot have rest: but the LORD shall give thee there a trembling heart, and failing of eyes, and sorrow of mind:
66  And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:








But God also promised that he would NEVER cast off the people of Israel.

Jeremiah 31:37
Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.

Jeremiah 51:5
For Israel hath not been forsaken, nor Judah of his God, of the LORD of hosts; though their land was filled with sin against the Holy One of Israel.


But he will punish them.





".....If.......the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,"



Job 26:7
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

IMAGE

http://www.seoco.co.uk/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/ii_earth_in_space.gif






You do not understand do you Abu ?

To you, it is unfair, unjust, that the Jewish people will be forgiven their error, and that the people of Israel will be redeemed.



The people of Israel will be forgiven, not because they are 'without sin', but because they will turn, and [in their hearts] be sorry for their errors.


Joel 2:32
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.


Isaiah 55:6
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
7  Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Feb 16th, 2012 at 11:20am

Jan wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:12pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:51am:
You didn't answer my question? I'll ask again.

Do you think muslims are parasites?

Well, we don't seem to have a shortage of them in this country.

We don't have a shortage of Jews either, and even more Zionists.

There's more than 150 Jewish/Zionist Organizations in Oz, here's a list of just a few of them, y'all should feel right at home in any or all of them.

http://www.ajds.org.au/

http://aleph.org.au/

http://www.antidef.org.au/

http://www.ecaj.org.au/

http://www.zfa.com.au/

http://home.vtown.com.au/~ftropp/

http://www.j-net.com.au/

http://www.jhc.org.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/jewishemploymentnetwork.htm

http://jewishcare.com.au/cms/

http://www.aijac.org.au/

http://www.aujs.com.au/

http://www.bnaibrith.org.au/    

http://www.capitaljewishforum.org/

http://www.couragetocare.com.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/?Page=friendsof

http://www.jnf.org.au/index.cfm

http://www.join.org.au/

http://www.wizoaustralia.org/

http://www.accessinc.org.au/

http://www.ajhs.info/

http://www.dosinc.org.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/helpp.htm

AJP - Australian Jewish Psychologists
Nicky.Jacobs@education.monash.edu.au

Australia-Israel Friendship Association Inc
PO Box 1058, Belvedere Park LPO Seaford Victoria 3198
aifa@tpg.com.au

Australian Jewish Genealogical Society (Victoria)
ajgs@exist.com.au


Look at that.
There all employed.
There also very social people. :)

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Feb 16th, 2012 at 11:23am

Jan wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 2:44pm:
The idiots here (zionist supporters) must be the only ones who don't know the dangers of zionism in Australia.

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dirtydigger/


Hand back your computer Jan.
It has Israeli parts and software in it.
This could corrupt you if you don't act now.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 16th, 2012 at 7:47pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 16th, 2012 at 11:23am:

Jan wrote on Feb 11th, 2012 at 2:44pm:
The idiots here (zionist supporters) must be the only ones who don't know the dangers of zionism in Australia.

http://www.angelfire.com/journal2/dirtydigger/


Hand back your computer Jan.
It has Israeli parts and software in it.
This could corrupt you if you don't act now.


May as well hand over all of Oz too ... Zionist own most of that as well.

Only time will tell who is more treasonous and doing more harm .... me for using what can't be avoided, to defend my country ... or you for actively supporting zion in it's take-over of it.

Have you been watching zionist corporations closing down, going off shore and destroying the employment base, Can you find any iconic Aussie brands, business, mining, ad infinitum that hasn't been sold out, bought up and generally been destroyed.

All owned by ZOG ... where will you stand when the sh!t really hits the fan ... Will you become a Chicken Sh!t, and quietly disappear, or kowtow to your masters in abject poverty and beg for mercy (of which they have none).



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 16th, 2012 at 7:53pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 16th, 2012 at 11:20am:

Jan wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 4:12pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 9th, 2012 at 11:51am:
You didn't answer my question? I'll ask again.

Do you think muslims are parasites?

Well, we don't seem to have a shortage of them in this country.

We don't have a shortage of Jews either, and even more Zionists.

There's more than 150 Jewish/Zionist Organizations in Oz, here's a list of just a few of them, y'all should feel right at home in any or all of them.

http://www.ajds.org.au/

http://aleph.org.au/

http://www.antidef.org.au/

http://www.ecaj.org.au/

http://www.zfa.com.au/

http://home.vtown.com.au/~ftropp/

http://www.j-net.com.au/

http://www.jhc.org.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/jewishemploymentnetwork.htm

http://jewishcare.com.au/cms/

http://www.aijac.org.au/

http://www.aujs.com.au/

http://www.bnaibrith.org.au/    

http://www.capitaljewishforum.org/

http://www.couragetocare.com.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/?Page=friendsof

http://www.jnf.org.au/index.cfm

http://www.join.org.au/

http://www.wizoaustralia.org/

http://www.accessinc.org.au/

http://www.ajhs.info/

http://www.dosinc.org.au/

http://www.jewishaustralia.com/helpp.htm

AJP - Australian Jewish Psychologists
Nicky.Jacobs@education.monash.edu.au

Australia-Israel Friendship Association Inc
PO Box 1058, Belvedere Park LPO Seaford Victoria 3198
aifa@tpg.com.au

Australian Jewish Genealogical Society (Victoria)
ajgs@exist.com.au


Look at that.
There all employed.
There also very social people. :)


Yep they keep they're own well employed at the expense of real Aussies, and they're very social to their own communities, and to the charities they PREY on.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:54am
Here's another good one:


abu_rashid wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 9:52am:
Soren,

Usually at the end of every anti-Islamic rope we find a Zionist or Zionist sympathiser holding onto the end.

Even the anti-Muslim movements in Europe are all backed and bankrolled by Zionists, even though traditionally they've been bitter enemies, trying to eradicate the Jews.

So it's for good reason that anti-Islamic is assumed to mean Zionist. You yourself have proven time and again to be a loyal and devoted Zionist worshipper.




Jan wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Feb 5th, 2012 at 10:23am:
Yes, but by the same token, at the end of every anti-Jewish rope, we find a Muslim or Muslim sympathiser


For a very good reason. A Jew is no longer 'just a Jew', Jusaism has been infiltrated by Globalists and subjecting Muslims to Genicidal wars of terror.

How to deal with Zionists Jews. "If you can't separate the wheat from the chaff turn it all into horse fodder".


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 17th, 2012 at 3:59pm

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:54am:
Here's another good one:


Still not thinking or talking for yourself I see and using others out of context.

Your fighting a losing battle Fd, the number of people who realise that Zionism does not necessarily equate to Jews is growing daily. Zios can be Jews, Christians, Muslims, or atheists these days. They are the people like you who are only out for what they can get, and anyway they can get it.

Keep up the good work though, your helping to expose the truth about who is who.


   

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Feb 18th, 2012 at 10:14pm
:o


falah wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:55pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:07pm:
No wonder the jews give thanks every day: "Thank god we have front bottoms like Jan and the Arabs for enemies".

Give me a scholarly link.


The Jews are their own worst enemies. They are digging themselves into another hole, after not learning the lesson of the 1940's.




Jan wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 2:04am:

falah wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:55pm:

Soren wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:07pm:
No wonder the jews give thanks every day: "Thank god we have front bottoms like Jan and the Arabs for enemies".

Give me a scholarly link.


The Jews are their own worst enemies. They are digging themselves into another hole, after not learning the lesson of the 1940's.


That wasn't a lesson to them Falah, it was a lesson to us ... Study and learn from it and never emulate.

No amount of success is worth murdering your own people as they did.

Other peoples lives means nothing to them everyone is expendable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_pD4yk0gXs&feature=related


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:22am

Jan wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 3:59pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:54am:
Here's another good one:


Still not thinking or talking for yourself I see and using others out of context.

Your fighting a losing battle Fd, the number of people who realise that Zionism does not necessarily equate to Jews is growing daily. Zios can be Jews, Christians, Muslims, or atheists these days. They are the people like you who are only out for what they can get, and anyway they can get it.

Keep up the good work though, your helping to expose the truth about who is who.


   



Got it: everyone who doesn't think like you is a Zionist.
Too easy.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 19th, 2012 at 11:01am

Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:22am:

Jan wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 3:59pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:54am:
Here's another good one:


Still not thinking or talking for yourself I see and using others out of context.

Your fighting a losing battle Fd, the number of people who realise that Zionism does not necessarily equate to Jews is growing daily. Zios can be Jews, Christians, Muslims, or atheists these days. They are the people like you who are only out for what they can get, and anyway they can get it.

Keep up the good work though, your helping to expose the truth about who is who.


Got it: everyone who doesn't think like you is a Zionist.
Too easy.


LOL! keep digging hon, your almost there.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:27pm

Jan wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 11:01am:

Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 10:22am:

Jan wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 3:59pm:

freediver wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 7:54am:
Here's another good one:


Still not thinking or talking for yourself I see and using others out of context.

Your fighting a losing battle Fd, the number of people who realise that Zionism does not necessarily equate to Jews is growing daily. Zios can be Jews, Christians, Muslims, or atheists these days. They are the people like you who are only out for what they can get, and anyway they can get it.

Keep up the good work though, your helping to expose the truth about who is who.


Got it: everyone who doesn't think like you is a Zionist.
Too easy.


LOL! keep digging hon, your almost there.



Your almost there??????
I love a semi-literate anti-zionist. Do you sound it out when you write? Fascinating. It was St Ambrose, don't you know, who so impressed St Augustine by not sounding it all out as he was reading. He mustsa been a Zionist, eh? You must be a pre-Augustinian. Do you do school visits?

(Yours is not a typo, it is a conceptual error. Your mind is at fault, not your typing.)

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 20th, 2012 at 5:13am

Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:27pm:
Your almost there??????
I love a semi-literate anti-zionist. Do you sound it out when you write? Fascinating. It was St Ambrose, don't you know, who so impressed St Augustine by not sounding it all out as he was reading. He mustsa been a Zionist, eh? You must be a pre-Augustinian. Do you do school visits?

(Yours is not a typo, it is a conceptual error. Your mind is at fault, not your typing.)


Thank you for giving me the licence to correct all YOUR spelling and typos (and everyone elses) in future. [smiley=kiss.gif]

I've avoided this practice for consideration of those who didn't have an 'English' education and the realisation that we can all make typos when concentrating on a subject that isn't 'spelling'.

Like the American habit of saying then instead of than etc.

You keep on watching my spelling, while I concentrate on your poor comprehension and bad manners.  [smiley=grin.gif]







Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 20th, 2012 at 6:07am

Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:27pm:
(Yours is not a typo, it is a conceptual error. Your mind is at fault, not your typing.)


You're such a psuedo intellect Soren ... do these comments reflect your correct IQ or are they your own invented Ido.

Reply #19 - Jan 28th ... which one is it more important aspect, religion or politics. Corrections: which one is more impotant, ... OR which one is the more important aspect.

Reply #90 - Feb 6th ... Israel could even kickstart the whole Arab declinocracy. A bit of money, a bit of crativity, some theatre, camera, lights, action Here we have some destructive uninspiring mish mash of stupidity. Perhaps using some 'creativity' in your language would help to enlighten.  [smiley=shocked.gif]


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by adamant on Feb 20th, 2012 at 9:27am
FD here is another form of holocaust denial very much along the lines of David Irving.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GixcYrEx3HA

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 20th, 2012 at 8:08pm

Jan wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 6:07am:

Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:27pm:
(Yours is not a typo, it is a conceptual error. Your mind is at fault, not your typing.)


You're such a psuedo intellect Soren ... do these comments reflect your correct IQ or are they your own invented Ido.

Reply #19 - Jan 28th ... which one is it more important aspect, religion or politics. Corrections: which one is more impotant, ... OR which one is the more important aspect.

Reply #90 - Feb 6th ... Israel could even kickstart the whole Arab declinocracy. A bit of money, a bit of crativity, some theatre, camera, lights, action Here we have some destructive uninspiring mish mash of stupidity. Perhaps using some 'creativity' in your language would help to enlighten.  [smiley=shocked.gif]


What? So you are not a semi-literate anti-zionist monomaniac, then? I can't string two words together - and so you must be right???

What kind of fool are you?




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 21st, 2012 at 2:38am

Soren wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 8:08pm:

Jan wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 6:07am:

Soren wrote on Feb 19th, 2012 at 7:27pm:
(Yours is not a typo, it is a conceptual error. Your mind is at fault, not your typing.)


You're such a psuedo intellect Soren ... do these comments reflect your correct IQ or are they your own invented Ido.

Reply #19 - Jan 28th ... which one is it more important aspect, religion or politics. Corrections: which one is more impotant, ... OR which one is the more important aspect.

Reply #90 - Feb 6th ... Israel could even kickstart the whole Arab declinocracy. A bit of money, a bit of crativity, some theatre, camera, lights, action Here we have some destructive uninspiring mish mash of stupidity. Perhaps using some 'creativity' in your language would help to enlighten.  [smiley=shocked.gif]


What? So you are not a semi-literate anti-zionist monomaniac, then? I can't string two words together - and so you must be right???

What kind of fool are you?


A true zionist Jew answer .. You're a moron Soren. You were the first to air your knowledge of Spelling and my use of English, and when it bites you on the arse you cry FOUL!!!

Very Ashkenazi indeed.

Whine, snivel, Whinge, and when you have no intelligent excuse "Invent one".



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 21st, 2012 at 10:53am

Jan wrote on Feb 21st, 2012 at 2:38am:
A true zionist Jew answer .. You're a moron Soren. You were the first to air your knowledge of Spelling and my use of English, and when it bites you on the arse you cry FOUL!!!

Very Ashkenazi indeed.

Whine, snivel, Whinge, and when you have no intelligent excuse "Invent one".



Well done! You are learning.

You are still a semi-literate monomaniac puppet so here's something to get up your nose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeGYAfh9A1k




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Karnal on Feb 21st, 2012 at 3:06pm
These Zionists are worse than the Freemasons. Mark the sinister Zionist's words:


Soren wrote on Feb 6th, 2012 at 10:42pm:
I don't see anything wrong with Zionism.

...

Zionism is good for you, Mohammed.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 21st, 2012 at 3:08pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:00pm:
Not at all.

I've made it quite clear on numerous occasions that the Islamic concept can be translated to cover both apostasy and treason.

You just refuse to listen, as you've got it in your head it's some kind of ruse to avoid it being apostasy that is a capital offence, to cheat you out of your "gotcha".

I've never claimed apostasy isn't a capital offence, merely highlighted the fact that apostasy in Islam overlaps with the concept of treason in the West, which in most countries is a capital offence.




Ah, the tolerance of moslems.

Aren't we all so pleased that the middle east has been experiencing the 'Arab spring', which portends a new political tolerance in the region.
/sarc off



Quote:


Egypt: Salafists intend to prosecute Baha'is for "treason"

Baha'is' very existence may soon be illegal in Egypt, under Islamic law. By contrast, the country that has allowed Baha'is to worship freely and maintain their headquarters in peace and security is none other than Israel. If the jihadists ever get their way regarding Israel, that will not continue. "Egypt’s Baha’is face more attacks from Salafists," by Joseph Mayton for Bikya Masr, February 19:

    CAIRO: Egypt’s small Baha’i Faith community has faced attack upon attack in its less than 200 year existence in the country. The latest has come from prominent ultra-conservative Salafist leader Abdel Moneim al-Shahat, who called on the government to “protect itself” from the faith by denouncing the faith and calling its followers “blasphemous.”

    “We will prosecute the Bahai’s on charge of treason,” said Shahat via telephone on Dream 2′s al-Haqiqa TV program.

    “We as Salafists refuse to deal with Baha’is, because they do not exist by virtue of their faith.

    According to Shahat, Bahai’s are not entitled to rights under Islam because they are not recognized by the religion, and any new constitution should not include an amendment protecting their rights.

    He cited previous Al-Azhar – the Sunni Islamic world’s most prestigious institution – rulings that said Baha’is are blasphemous.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/egypt-salafists-intend-to-prosecute-bahais-for-blasphemy.html



Yadda paraphrases.....
"“We as Salafists refuse to deal with Baha’is, because they do not exist by virtue of their faith.”.......
......He cited previous Al-Azhar – the Sunni Islamic world’s most prestigious institution – rulings that said Baha’is are blasphemous NOT moslems."



i.e.
Baha'is do not have any 'status' [as human beings], in a Sharia Jurisdiction.

Only moslems are human beings.

So moslem violence against Baha'is is OK, 'lawful'.

I think that falls under Allah's decree.....

"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11






Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Feb 21st, 2012 at 7:02pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 21st, 2012 at 3:08pm:
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


Not sure why you keep posting that verse. It is just common sense. If you make God angry nobody can save you from him.

If you actually believed in God Almighty, it wouldn't be such a strange concept to believe that God is Almighty.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 21st, 2012 at 7:56pm


abu_rashid wrote on Jan 28th, 2012 at 5:00pm:
Not at all.

I've made it quite clear on numerous occasions that the Islamic concept can be translated to cover both apostasy and treason.



All apostates are traitors.
Not all traitors are apostates.

Simple.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 11:39am
Zionism's good for you.

Islam is the danger to the political process:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqaEGBRQWeg


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 1:08pm

falah wrote on Feb 21st, 2012 at 7:02pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 21st, 2012 at 3:08pm:
"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11



Not sure why you keep posting that verse. It is just common sense. If you make God angry nobody can save you from him.




If you actually believed in God Almighty, it wouldn't be such a strange concept to believe that God is Almighty.





falah,

THERE IS JUST ONE FLAW IN THAT LOGIC, YOUR MOSLEM 'LOGIC'.

If i blaspheme or apostatise against ISLAM, it is not Allah that will cut my head off !!!!!!

It is not Allah, the powerless impotent god, that will do one single thing to me.

It is the LAWLESS, raving, raging, homicidal maniacs, who claim to be devout, 'righteous', 'rightly guided' moslems.





IMAGE...

London, moslem street protests.



THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"

"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"







hey falah,

I wouldn't mind dying at the hand of moslems, if moslems had the stones to try to kill me.

Today is a good day to die.               ;)




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 4:36pm
Jews hate Jesus & Christians:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvnrBU4vaGY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16ZdMo11JFA






http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA6vRC1xW_c&feature=youtu.be

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 6:07pm

Soren wrote on Feb 21st, 2012 at 10:53am:
You are still a semi-literate monomaniac puppet so here's something to get up your nose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeGYAfh9A1k


Replace his words Muslim/Palestinian, with Jews/Israeli, anti-semitism with anti-Muslim and it would be more correct than this deluded excuse for a human being.

So here's something to get up your nose, spoken by a Jew and far better educated than your excuse for a speaker.

Listen and 'learn' ... if that's possible

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUsXt8TmVfU&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PLA727EEFB307A0D50




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 8:26pm

Jan wrote on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 6:07pm:

Replace his words Muslim/Palestinian, with Jews/Israeli, anti-semitism with anti-Muslim and it would be more correct than this deluded excuse for a human being.


So here's something to get up your nose, spoken by a Jew and far better educated than your excuse for a speaker.




Jan,

Want to substitute a few 'descriptors' do you ?




Quote:

Hate Speech?


(Not According to CAIR)

     

Muslims are the vilest of animals…”

“Show mercy to one another, but be ruthless to Muslims

“How perverse are Muslims!”

“Strike off the heads of Muslims, as well as their fingertips”

“Fight those Muslims who are near to you”

Muslim mischief makers should be murdered or crucified”


Hate speech?  Incitement to violence?  Sounds like it to us, but a knowledgeable Muslim would have to disagree.

Why would Muslims not consider this to be hate speech?

How is it that we can post these quotes with full certainty that CAIR won't be contacting the media (or Congress) with wild-eyed accusations of Islamophobia?

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/Quran_Hate.htm


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 9:34am
The Bible Tells Christians and Jews to Murder non-Believers!

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men.  During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name.  So the man was brought to Moses for judgment.  His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan.  They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear.  Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head.  Then let the entire community stone him to death.  Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished.  Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel.  Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. 
(Leviticus 24:10-16)



Anyone who sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.
(Exodus 22:20)

Whoever would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.
(2 Chronicles 15:13)


If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord."  When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.
(Zechariah 13:3)


Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles,  and the predicted signs or miracles take place.  If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them.  The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul.  Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone.  Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him.  The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt.  Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you.
(Deuteronomy 13:1-5)



But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.'  You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?'  If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message.  That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared.
(Deuteronomy 18:20-22)


Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.  (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)



Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.  When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.
(Deuteronomy 17:2-5)




Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel. 
(Deuteronomy 17:12)


A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. 
(Leviticus 20:27)

Do not allow a sorceress to live.
(Exodus 22:18)

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 11:36am

falah wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 9:34am:
The Bible Tells Christians and Jews to Murder non-Believers!

One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men.  During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name.  So the man was brought to Moses for judgment.  His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan.  They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear.  Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head.  Then let the entire community stone him to death.  Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished.  Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel.  Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. 
(Leviticus 24:10-16)



Anyone who sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.
(Exodus 22:20)

Whoever would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, should be put to death, whether young or old, man or woman.
(2 Chronicles 15:13)


If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord."  When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.
(Zechariah 13:3)


Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles,  and the predicted signs or miracles take place.  If the prophets then say, 'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them.  The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul.  Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone.  Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him.  The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt.  Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you.
(Deuteronomy 13:1-5)



But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.'  You may wonder, 'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?'  If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message.  That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared.
(Deuteronomy 18:20-22)


Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him."  (Deuteronomy 13:13-19)

If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.  (Deuteronomy 13:7-12)



Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.  When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.
(Deuteronomy 17:2-5)




Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death.  Such evil must be purged from Israel. 
(Deuteronomy 17:12)


A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death. 
(Leviticus 20:27)

Do not allow a sorceress to live.
(Exodus 22:18)


Does anyone read the early testament stuff anymore?
It's ancient history today.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 11:54am

falah wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 9:34am:

The Bible Tells Christians and Jews to Murder non-Believers!



Your protestations in post #132 are lies.




ONCE AGAIN......
Those punishments were directed exclusively towards and against COVENANT BREAKERS who were exclusively Hebrews.

Those were the punishments, to HEBREW covenant breakers.



Numbers 30:2
If a man vow a vow unto the LORD, or swear an oath to bind his soul with a bond; he shall not break his word, he shall do according to all that proceedeth out of his mouth.




The Hebrew people were 'in-covenant', with their God.

"...And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
And Moses came and called for the elders of the people, and laid before their faces all these words which the LORD commanded him.
And all the people answered together, and said, All that the LORD hath spoken we will do...."
Exodus 19:5-8





Leviticus 20:24
...I am the LORD your God, which have separated you from other people.

Leviticus 20:26
And ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mine.

Deuteronomy 7:6
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 12:13pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 11:54am:

falah wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 9:34am:

The Bible Tells Christians and Jews to Murder non-Believers!



Your protestations in post #132 are lies.




ONCE AGAIN......
Those punishments were directed exclusively towards and against COVENANT BREAKERS who were exclusively Hebrews.

Those were the punishments, to HEBREW covenant breakers.





falah,

In this forum, you are continually, repeatedly, and intentionally, slandering the God of Israel, and misrepresenting HIS LAW.

Don't you fear God ?

Silly question Yadda.

Clearly, falah, does NOT fear God.




These verses are speaking to YOU, falah, and to all moslems who are confronted by God's truth, and then CHOOSE to 'spit in the face of God'....

Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
31  Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32  And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 5:34pm

Yadda wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 12:13pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 11:54am:

falah wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 9:34am:

The Bible Tells Christians and Jews to Murder non-Believers!



Your protestations in post #132 are lies.




ONCE AGAIN......
Those punishments were directed exclusively towards and against COVENANT BREAKERS who were exclusively Hebrews.

Those were the punishments, to HEBREW covenant breakers.





falah,

In this forum, you are continually, repeatedly, and intentionally, slandering the God of Israel, and misrepresenting HIS LAW.

Don't you fear God ?

Silly question Yadda.

Clearly, falah, does NOT fear God.




These verses are speaking to YOU, falah, and to all moslems who are confronted by God's truth, and then CHOOSE to 'spit in the face of God'....

Matthew 12:30
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
31  Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.
32  And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.




Yadda if you say "God has a son" you utter a tremendous lie against God.

This lie will send you to Hell. Repent while you can!

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 11:43pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kU9gmPWeH4



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Feb 24th, 2012 at 1:14pm
Carlin? Who he?


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 6th, 2012 at 11:31am

Soren wrote on Feb 21st, 2012 at 10:53am:

Jan wrote on Feb 21st, 2012 at 2:38am:
A true zionist Jew answer .. You're a moron Soren. You were the first to air your knowledge of Spelling and my use of English, and when it bites you on the arse you cry FOUL!!!

Very Ashkenazi indeed.

Whine, snivel, Whinge, and when you have no intelligent excuse "Invent one".



Well done! You are learning.

You are still a semi-literate monomaniac puppet so here's something to get up your nose.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeGYAfh9A1k


Excellent clip Soren.
He says it like it is.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 9th, 2012 at 12:46pm
Another Falah classic:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1331103869


Quote:
That verse talks about the Jews - and speaking of Jews you sure sound like one


A newcomer who has hit the ground running:


PZ547 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 6:43am:
LOL.  ' Islamic Madman'.  Quality journalism

Me -- well, when I hear 'Islamic Madman', I automatically think, ' Israeli Nutjobs', or ' Mossad at it again'

Killing a few jews would be right up their street, similar to jews who daub swastikas in their own cemeteries

Especially around Easter or Christmas.  Something most have come to expect

So what's the goal this time, Israel -- a France in flames ?  Riots & bloodshed in the streets, to take the shine off other people's religious celebrations ?

Anyway, the whore media's going to have to prove to me (1) that any 'islamic madmen' were involved and (2) that any jews were actually injured

Tut tut, judaism.  You've succeeded in making me so cynical lol


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 8:35am
Abu, what league of nations law made it illegal for Jews to immigrate to Israel? Is this just wishful thinking on your part?

Isn't it kind of hypocritical for someone who supports the complete displacement and/or enslavement of the losers in a war (non-Mulims only of course) and the theft of all property to complain about Jews being allowed to immigrate to Israel?


abu_rashid wrote on Mar 11th, 2012 at 2:03pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2012 at 1:57pm:

Quote:
The interesting thing is, that all these staunch supporters of the mass illegal immigration of Jews into Palestine


Can you explain how it is illegal, other than you disagreeing with it?


They entered into a land that belonged to someone else. Even if we accept the ridiculous idea the British "owned" the land, which they did not, they merely administered a mandate over it, and if you read the stipulations of that mandate, you'll find they had no right to bring in foreigners to displace the existing people, even by the British estimation, it was illegal immigration.

Can you explain why you think it's legal? Other than the fact you simply must argue the opposite of anything said?



abu_rashid wrote on Mar 11th, 2012 at 4:12pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2012 at 2:17pm:
Since when are you an expert on British law?


It was a League of Nations law, not a British one. Please get with the programme.


freediver wrote on Mar 11th, 2012 at 2:17pm:
Because the Israeli government allows it to happen. If the British government allowed the Jews to migrate into the area when they were running the show, then that was also legal.


There was no Israeli government, the Israeli government was founded by the illegal immigrants, after they'd overrun the country.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 2:26pm

freediver wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 8:35am:
Abu, what league of nations law made it illegal for Jews to immigrate to Israel? Is this just wishful thinking on your part?


They didn't "immigrate" ... They were given permission to OCCUPY by a power that had occupied the country before that.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 2:35pm
It is OUR home land -- we does not need permission for anyone.

Come let them try to take back from us -- they do this in 1967 and what is happens?

Israel is strong country and we fight back,, no more of the times when we has Nazi camps and people surrendor,, now is Jewish peoples fight strong with best military,,

This is home land and we stay for ever,

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 5:03pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 2:35pm:
It is OUR home land -- we does not need permission for anyone.

Come let them try to take back from us -- they do this in 1967 and what is happens?

Israel is strong country and we fight back,, no more of the times when we has Nazi camps and people surrendor,, now is Jewish peoples fight strong with best military,,

This is home land and we stay for ever,
Scum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9KqIeEKteQ&feature=player_embedded#!

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 11:18pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 5:03pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 2:35pm:
It is OUR home land -- we does not need permission for anyone.

Come let them try to take back from us -- they do this in 1967 and what is happens?

Israel is strong country and we fight back,, no more of the times when we has Nazi camps and people surrendor,, now is Jewish peoples fight strong with best military,,

This is home land and we stay for ever,
Scum
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9KqIeEKteQ&feature=player_embedded#!



can you speak Hebrew?
Do you know here was army is saying to the Jewish and Arab peoples?

This area is cordon off security point,, is not supposed to be grouping of people in the area - this is South Hebron - is very dangerous for sniper.

The army is telling them that they was already warn before. So this is not 1. time they come to tell them - - this video obviious do not show and make look like army come and just kick.

Listen to the speaking -- but video knows many do not speak the Hebrew,,,

This is also unauthorize gathering in security zone. Is just to move rock? so why is 5. PLO flags in people's hands??

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 2:35pm:
Israel is strong country and we fight back,, no more of the times when we has Nazi camps and people surrendor,, now is Jewish peoples fight strong with best military,,


Ohhhhh PUUUULEASE not the 67 year old holocaust whine again ... you weren't even born then. NO OTHER RELIGION or Country keeps up the constant whinging about their holocausts, (of greater numbers than the jewish THREE thousand), nor have they made a billion $$ business out of it either. There are more Jews receiving compensation for the holohoax now, there were jews in the world at the time of the event ... Name any other country that gets compensation for an event that took place 67 years ago????


Quote:
This is home land and we stay for ever,


It wasn't YOUR land 67 years ago it was Arab land, where they had lived since the time of Jesus ... where were YOUR people.

Take your stupid 2000 year old claim to land you were kicked out of and 'shove it where the sun don't shine.

Where were your Grandparents born?? Who were your ancestors ... Ashkenazim?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 3:10am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 11:18pm:
can you speak Hebrew?
Do you know here was army is saying to the Jewish and Arab peoples?

This area is cordon off security point,, is not supposed to be grouping of people in the area - this is South Hebron - is very dangerous for sniper.

The army is telling them that they was already warn before. So this is not 1. time they come to tell them - - this video obviious do not show and make look like army come and just kick.

Listen to the speaking -- but video knows many do not speak the Hebrew,,,

This is also unauthorize gathering in security zone. Is just to move rock? so why is 5. PLO flags in people's hands??


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQSqMx31Nro



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 8:56am

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55am:
holohoax ?



Is no hoax - my father parents was in Nazi camp.
It is not a hoax and this is not allowable to say this by law in many countrys.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 10:59am

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 22nd, 2012 at 2:35pm:
Israel is strong country and we fight back,, no more of the times when we has Nazi camps and people surrendor,, now is Jewish peoples fight strong with best military,,


Ohhhhh PUUUULEASE not the 67 year old holocaust whine again ... you weren't even born then. NO OTHER RELIGION or Country keeps up the constant whinging about their holocausts, (of greater numbers than the jewish THREE thousand), nor have they made a billion $$ business out of it either. There are more Jews receiving compensation for the holohoax now, there were jews in the world at the time of the event ... Name any other country that gets compensation for an event that took place 67 years ago????


Quote:
This is home land and we stay for ever,


It wasn't YOUR land 67 years ago it was Arab land, where they had lived since the time of Jesus ... where were YOUR people.

Take your stupid 2000 year old claim to land you were kicked out of and 'shove it where the sun don't shine.

Where were your Grandparents born?? Who were your ancestors ... Ashkenazim?


It's Israeli land now, as it was before.
Get over it.
Your ignorance of the effect of the holocaust on the Jewish people is borderline abject stupidity.
Keep being a useful idiot for Palestinian terrorists.
They deserve you.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:40pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 8:56am:

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55am:
holohoax ?


Is no hoax - my father parents was in Nazi camp.
It is not a hoax and this is not allowable to say this by law in many countrys.


Yep, I have two contacts who were gaoled for denying history, one is still in gaol (he got three years). You zionists have it all stitched up ... having laws that can put people in prison for merely QUESTIONING history and call it an insult ... no other RELIGION can get someone put in prison for an insult which isn't an insult but a question!!!!!

What y'gonna do about it Avram? Have a 71 year old disabled woman put in prison for making an obvious observation regarding Zionism?

I could get some real mileage towards revealing the truth out of that, the media would love it.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55pm

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 11:36am:
Does anyone read the early testament stuff anymore?
It's ancient history today.


Only Yadda who keeps posting it endlessly without a word of protest from your chicken lips.

Yeah it IS ancient history today, but that doesn't stop USrael using it to justify genocide.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 3:16pm

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 8:56am:

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55am:
holohoax ?


Is no hoax - my father parents was in Nazi camp.
It is not a hoax and this is not allowable to say this by law in many countrys.


Yep, I have two contacts who were gaoled for denying history, one is still in gaol (he got three years). You zionists have it all stitched up ... having laws that can put people in prison for merely QUESTIONING history and call it an insult ... no other RELIGION can get someone put in prison for an insult which isn't an insult but a question!!!!!

What y'gonna do about it Avram? Have a 71 year old disabled woman put in prison for making an obvious observation regarding Zionism?

I could get some real mileage towards revealing the truth out of that, the media would love it.



Maybe you can spend some time with my grandfather who can tell you of his times spend in Treblinka then you tell him he imagine the total years he was there and it never happen yes??

You think now why is so important for Jewish home land.

Peoples like he, who is given up to Nazis by he Czech friends and colleagues of one time -- then puts into death camps to work for years before liberation day..

Then you has Ben Gurion say to the Jewish peoples, come to Israel -- this is land of the Jews never again will Jews not has their own country where defended at all times.

Israel is spiritual land of the Jewish peoples,, this is why we -- even young Jewish like me -- has defend it with all heart we can.
My father and uncles when young men fights the Arabs in 1967,, then you has me and my brothers and sister defend in Gaza, Golan, Somaria to ensure Israel remain always place for all Jews to come and be home.

Yes this will always be now.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 3:25pm

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 8:56am:

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55am:
holohoax ?


Is no hoax - my father parents was in Nazi camp.
It is not a hoax and this is not allowable to say this by law in many countrys.


Yep, I have two contacts who were gaoled for denying history, one is still in gaol (he got three years). You zionists have it all stitched up ... having laws that can put people in prison for merely QUESTIONING history and call it an insult ... no other RELIGION can get someone put in prison for an insult which isn't an insult but a question!!!!!

What y'gonna do about it Avram? Have a 71 year old disabled woman put in prison for making an obvious observation regarding Zionism?

I could get some real mileage towards revealing the truth out of that, the media would love it.

Being of European descent yourself (if that is you in the picture) then like all Europeans, including me, we only have our own to blame for Jew hate and its inevitable consequences.

Most Christians throughout history have been either murderous Jew haters or condoned the hate and murder of Jews. Certainly every European nation had its (multitudinous) periods of Jew hate.

They were "Christ killers" - perpetrators of deicide - apparently, as Christian theology has always asserted... the capital punishment for which the New Testament text implies and/or tacitly endorses.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 3:31pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 8:56am:

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55am:
holohoax ?


Is no hoax - my father parents was in Nazi camp.
It is not a hoax and this is not allowable to say this by law in many countrys.


Yep, I have two contacts who were gaoled for denying history, one is still in gaol (he got three years). You zionists have it all stitched up ... having laws that can put people in prison for merely QUESTIONING history and call it an insult ... no other RELIGION can get someone put in prison for an insult which isn't an insult but a question!!!!!

What y'gonna do about it Avram? Have a 71 year old disabled woman put in prison for making an obvious observation regarding Zionism?

I could get some real mileage towards revealing the truth out of that, the media would love it.

Being of European descent yourself (if that is you in the picture) then like all Europeans, including me, we only have our own to blame for Jew hate and its inevitable consequences.

Most Christians throughout history have been either murderous Jew haters or condoned the hate and murder of Jews. Certainly every European nation had its (multitudinous) periods of Jew hate.

They were "Christ killers" - perpetrators of deicide - apparently, as Christian theology has always asserted... the capital punishment for which the New Testament text implies and/or tacitly endorses.



Even we young Israelis is learned of the holocaust from our own familys experiences and also from teachings.
It is big reason why is so strongly defend Israel -- so is never happens again.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 6:25pm

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55pm:

chicken_lipsforme wrote on Feb 23rd, 2012 at 11:36am:
Does anyone read the early testament stuff anymore?
It's ancient history today.


Only Yadda who keeps posting it endlessly without a word of protest from your chicken lips.

Yeah it IS ancient history today, but that doesn't stop USrael using it to justify genocide.


Abu uses the 'illegal' immigration of Jews into Israel from before this time as justification for Palestinian terror attacks.

What's the difference?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 7:10pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 3:25pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:40pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 8:56am:

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 2:55am:
holohoax ?


Is no hoax - my father parents was in Nazi camp.
It is not a hoax and this is not allowable to say this by law in many countrys.


Yep, I have two contacts who were gaoled for denying history, one is still in gaol (he got three years). You zionists have it all stitched up ... having laws that can put people in prison for merely QUESTIONING history and call it an insult ... no other RELIGION can get someone put in prison for an insult which isn't an insult but a question!!!!!

What y'gonna do about it Avram? Have a 71 year old disabled woman put in prison for making an obvious observation regarding Zionism?

I could get some real mileage towards revealing the truth out of that, the media would love it.

Being of European descent yourself (if that is you in the picture) then like all Europeans, including me, we only have our own to blame for Jew hate and its inevitable consequences.

Most Christians throughout history have been either murderous Jew haters or condoned the hate and murder of Jews. Certainly every European nation had its (multitudinous) periods of Jew hate.

They were "Christ killers" - perpetrators of deicide - apparently, as Christian theology has always asserted... the capital punishment for which the New Testament text implies and/or tacitly endorses.


Yes that's me in the photo, taken a month before being diagnosed with cancer in 2003  (cancer free in 2006), without the help of zionist medicines, drugs or therapies, which are designed to destroy the immune system, not support it ...

We didn't create the circumstances that led us to persecute Jews, they did that themselves by introduced USURY, and meddling in their "hosts" monetary systems, causing havoc to their economy ... I agree there were many people who believed the BS of them being evil, among the other things you listed, but the Governments knew that to defend them would just make it easier for them to 'operate', so to defend themselves they didn't interfere with the vioce of the people, and actually encouraging them.

Being 4th generation Aussie I never had those thoughts, I actually loved the Jews, wept for them, prayed for them ... and then I came upon the truth, which I vehmently denied at first ... until I did my own research. I discovered the deception of zionism through research into health and alternative medicine. My first introduction was from a book I read in 1980 "A World Without Cancer" http://www.naturalnews.com/012923.html  

What you have written points out the criminality of RELIGION (ALL religion), and how it creates hatred and racist attitudes. That is why I turned to spirituality, 'real' spirituality, one that respects our 'creation' and the evolution that took place thereafter,  I have rejected the written word of MAN ie "The bible" The Torah and the Qur'an.. There is no biblical god, only an intelligent Consciousness, a Creator.

God and Allah are merely mans attempt to explain our beginnings and how we got here. It evolved into a deception to Control all people of the world, in their own cultures.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGsSEqsGLWM

And thank you for your polite viewpoint .. So few on this forum know how to 'oppose' with integrity or respect... that I have fallen into the trap of replying in like manner. [smiley=thumbsup.gif]






Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 7:33pm

freediver wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 6:25pm:
[quote author=1A313E500 link=1327483631/151#151 date=1332478554]
Abu uses the 'illegal' immigration of Jews into Israel from before this time as justification for Palestinian terror attacks.

What's the difference?


The difference is the occupation actually happened in OUR time and the zionist Jews used the BS bible as evidence that GOD GAVE THEM THE RIGHT.

YADDA TALKS OUTA HIS AR$E .... Sorry! He parrots the jewish bible.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 7:43pm
The Jews are not welcome in anyone else's country.
The Jews are not welcome to their own country.

You numpties have worked your magic, haven't you, holocaust cancer survivor??


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 8:36pm
The title of this thread is outrageous.
Some of my best friends are of Jewish origin.
This kind of thinking led to the disgusting holocaust.
6 million people exterminated because  one grandparent might have been Jewish.

Sure - some Jews have made mistakes but so have we all.
We should be trying to help Israel obtain peace in the Middle East -
not calling them parasites.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 10:47pm

Jan wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 7:33pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 6:25pm:
[quote author=1A313E500 link=1327483631/151#151 date=1332478554]
Abu uses the 'illegal' immigration of Jews into Israel from before this time as justification for Palestinian terror attacks.

What's the difference?


The difference is the occupation actually happened in OUR time and the zionist Jews used the BS bible as evidence that GOD GAVE THEM THE RIGHT.

YADDA TALKS OUTA HIS AR$E .... Sorry! He parrots the jewish bible.


What about Abu's talk of the 'illegal' immigration. Does that have any substance?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 24th, 2012 at 4:24am

Soren wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 7:43pm:
The Jews are not welcome in anyone else's country.
The Jews are not welcome to their own country.

You numpties have worked your magic, haven't you, holocaust cancer survivor??


Idiot!!!

Jews have been welcomed in many Countries (including Palestine before the 'occupation') But absolutely in The US, UK, and Australia... THEY CHOSE to migrate to Usrael via the Balfour Declaration and INSTIGATED by Lord Rothschild (askenazi Jew) of the banking Rothschild's.

They are not welcome in Palestinian lands they stole, and then destroyed the Palestinians living/earning capacity and bulldozed their homes, sometime while the families were home and asleep.

Yes I am a survivor ... anything more you would like to add?

You really are the lowest of the low. 

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:49am
Did the Jews give you cancer?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 24th, 2012 at 8:39am

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:49am:
Did the Jews give you cancer?



She probably do not want to take the products made by TEVA just because is Israeli.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 24th, 2012 at 9:24am

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:49am:
Did the Jews give you cancer?

"If Algeria introduced a resolution at the UN declaring that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would pass by a vote of 164 to 13 with 26 abstentions." - Abba Eban

I guess Abba Eban had Jan & co in mind.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 24th, 2012 at 9:35am

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 4:24am:

Soren wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 7:43pm:
The Jews are not welcome in anyone else's country.
The Jews are not welcome to their own country.

You numpties have worked your magic, haven't you, holocaust cancer survivor??


Idiot!!!

Jews have been welcomed in many Countries (including Palestine before the 'occupation') But absolutely in The US, UK, and Australia... THEY CHOSE to migrate to Usrael via the Balfour Declaration and INSTIGATED by Lord Rothschild (askenazi Jew) of the banking Rothschild's.

They are not welcome in Palestinian lands they stole, and then destroyed the Palestinians living/earning capacity and bulldozed their homes, sometime while the families were home and asleep.

Yes I am a survivor ... anything more you would like to add?

You really are the lowest of the low. 


They chose to migrate to Israel (aka Jewdea) because that is their country.
The Jewish Wars - they were not fougfht in Lithuania or Poland.

SHurely shome mishtake.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 24th, 2012 at 10:02am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 8:39am:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:49am:
Did the Jews give you cancer?



She probably do not want to take the products made by TEVA just because is Israeli.
I did just fine with mother nature, Thanks Avram

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 24th, 2012 at 10:06am

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 7:49am:
Did the Jews give you cancer?


No, the Zionist corporations did. But thanks for asking. [smiley=wink.gif]

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:54am
How did they trick you into getting cancer?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:57am

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:54am:
How did they trick you into getting cancer?



To anti-semites -- Jewish peoples are responsible for the days when it rains and for hurricanes too.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:59am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:57am:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:54am:
How did they trick you into getting cancer?



To anti-semites -- Jewish peoples are responsible for the days when it rains and for hurricanes too.

Avram would you be offended if I took a crap on the Torah?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:02pm
why you need to be offensive to Jewish peoples?

If you does not followed the religion of Jews then is ok, but is not necessity to show disrespect and offense for them.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:03pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
why you need to be offensive to Jewish peoples?

If you does not followed the religion of Jews then is ok, but is not necessity to show disrespect and offense for them.

Its just a question, but it seems you would find it offensive no?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:04pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
why you need to be offensive to Jewish peoples?

If you does not followed the religion of Jews then is ok, but is not necessity to show disrespect and offense for them.

Its just a question, but it seems you would find it offensive no?



If my english translate is correct of what you say, yes is offensive to anyone who is Jewish.

I do not offend the christianity for you peoples do i?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:05pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:04pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
why you need to be offensive to Jewish peoples?

If you does not followed the religion of Jews then is ok, but is not necessity to show disrespect and offense for them.

Its just a question, but it seems you would find it offensive no?



If my english translate is correct of what you say, yes is offensive to anyone who is Jewish.

I do not offend the christianity for you peoples do i?
So why should I take someone seriously who believes in fairy tales?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:06pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
why you need to be offensive to Jewish peoples?

If you does not followed the religion of Jews then is ok, but is not necessity to show disrespect and offense for them.

Its just a question, but it seems you would find it offensive no?


If you really want to find out what happens, go to Texas and crap on a Bible, go to Mecca and crap on a Koran, then go to Israel and crap on a Torah. Then come back and tell us which one got your head chopped off. On second thoughts, better do israel before Mecca.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:07pm

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:06pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:02pm:
why you need to be offensive to Jewish peoples?

If you does not followed the religion of Jews then is ok, but is not necessity to show disrespect and offense for them.

Its just a question, but it seems you would find it offensive no?


If you really want to find out what happens, go to Texas and crap on a Bible, go to Mecca and crap on a Koran, then go to Israel and crap on a Torah. Then come back and tell us which one got your head chopped off. On second thoughts, better do israel before Mecca.
Probably the texans they are pretty nutjobby

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:09pm
There's only one way to find out.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:10pm

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:09pm:
There's only one way to find out.

I dont really need to test this tho, we already know that adults who believe in fairy tales are dangerous

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:12pm
Everyone believes in fairytales. That's what makes them real. Do you think freedom and democracy were discovered under a rock? Would you kill to defend them?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:15pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:10pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:09pm:
There's only one way to find out.

I dont really need to test this tho, we already know that adults who believe in fairy tales are dangerous

Religious zeal doesn't characterize secular Israelis

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:18pm

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
Everyone believes in fairytales. That's what makes them real. Do you think freedom and democracy were discovered under a rock? Would you kill to defend them?

If a million people believe a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing.
Believing in god does not make him real.

I believe that the Palestinians are fighting for freedom and democracy.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:21pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
Everyone believes in fairytales. That's what makes them real. Do you think freedom and democracy were discovered under a rock? Would you kill to defend them?

If a million people believe a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing.
Believing in god does not make him real.

I believe that the Palestinians are fighting for freedom and democracy.


Have you ever asked them what they are fighting for?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:23pm

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
Everyone believes in fairytales. That's what makes them real. Do you think freedom and democracy were discovered under a rock? Would you kill to defend them?

If a million people believe a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing.
Believing in god does not make him real.

I believe that the Palestinians are fighting for freedom and democracy.


Have you ever asked them what they are fighting for?
I think that is fairly obvious

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:44pm

Soren wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 9:35am:

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 4:24am:

Soren wrote on Mar 23rd, 2012 at 7:43pm:
The Jews are not welcome in anyone else's country.
The Jews are not welcome to their own country.

You numpties have worked your magic, haven't you, holocaust cancer survivor??


Idiot!!!

Jews have been welcomed in many Countries (including Palestine before the 'occupation') But absolutely in The US, UK, and Australia... THEY CHOSE to migrate to Usrael via the Balfour Declaration and INSTIGATED by Lord Rothschild (askenazi Jew) of the banking Rothschild's.

They are not welcome in Palestinian lands they stole, and then destroyed the Palestinians living/earning capacity and bulldozed their homes, sometime while the families were home and asleep.

Yes I am a survivor ... anything more you would like to add?

You really are the lowest of the low. 


They chose to migrate to Israel (aka Jewdea) because that is their country.
The Jewish Wars - they were not fougfht in Lithuania or Poland.

SHurely shome mishtake.


Ummm Where does it say the Jewish wars were fought in Lituania or Poland??

You need to brush up on your googling and your reading comprehension, not to mention Your spelling, (though I do understand why you use Jewdea instead of Judea or 'Judah'). Brain drain doesn't help your agenda Sore'n ... if anything it helps me to 'understand' your agenda.

The Jewish revolts began in 164 BC (or as it is currently referred to, BCE 'Before Common Era') ie. before Christ, which was changed in deferrence to the Jews (we had to forsake Christ to pacify Yaweh). The final 'revolt' was in 132–135 CE (Common Era)

According to the Bible, the kingdom of Judah resulted from the break-up of the United kingdom of Israel (1020 to about 930 BC), created by Saul, David and Solomon, which was a union of the twelve Israelite tribes. After the northern tribes refused to accept Rehoboam, the son of Solomon, as their king. At first, only the tribe of Judah remained loyal to the house of David, but soon after the tribe of Benjamin joined Judah. The two kingdoms, Judah in the south and Israel in the north, co-existed uneasily after the split, until the destruction of Israel by the Assyrians in c.722/721 left Judah as the sole remaining kingdom.

Seeing as how you advocate ZIONIST Jews taking back ISRAEL ie 4000+ YEARS ago, How far back should Native American Indians Make their claim on America, or the Australian Aborigines on Australia? After all Native Americans were conned out of THEIR country only 392 years ago, and Aborigines a mere 224 years ago ...

King Herod, of Edomite extraction, was king of Israel from 40 BCE to 4 BCE. He was appointed by Rome and conquered the kingdom from the Hasmoneans. When Augustus became the Roman Caesar in the year 30 BCE, Herod convinced him of his loyalty, and Augustus rewarded him by adding Jericho, the coastal region south of Dor and the region east of the Sea of Galilee. In 23 BCE, he was given the Bashan, Horen, and Tarchon regions, and three years later, the Golan Heights. http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/Israel+in+Maps/Kingdom+of+Herod-+30+BCE+to+70+CE.htm

How about EVERY religious and cultural groups claim back THEIR homelands.

Jews revolted and lost, they LEFT their country and settled in mainly ARAB countries (like Libya and Syria) some brave souls, (no Khazars ie Ashkenazim), remained and lived among Arabs in Palestine ... GET OVER IT!!!

Oh yeah ... Zionists are not satisfied with just owning PALESTINE, they want the whole world ... and they are are well into doing just that.

Have you any idea what that will mean to every country, religious group, culture, race? No I didn't think so ... You should take a good look at the prospect of becoming a slave to your 'heroes'.

Try and grasp the the difference between Jew and zionist Jew ... try and understand ZIONISM as it is TODAY ... You THINK you know but you're far from the truth ... all you understand is capitalism, but Zionism goes far beyond that.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:48pm
Zionism is about home land for Jewish people where we belongs.

In Kingdom of Israel or Eretz O'Israel.

This is zionism dream -- for which my grandparentage - after they survive Nazis in Europe -- they go to dream from Ben Gurion - they leaves their land to go home to Israel.

They leaves Russia and they leaves Czseka Republik to go to Israel -- their home.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 24th, 2012 at 1:26pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:23pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
Everyone believes in fairytales. That's what makes them real. Do you think freedom and democracy were discovered under a rock? Would you kill to defend them?

If a million people believe a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing.
Believing in god does not make him real.

I believe that the Palestinians are fighting for freedom and democracy.


Have you ever asked them what they are fighting for?
I think that is fairly obvious

Really? Are you as staunch a supporter of aboriginal land rights as you are pro-Palestinian?

I'm guessing, like all European-descent hysterical "supporters" of Palestinians and Palestine, what you've actually done is found another way to express ancestral Jew-hate.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 24th, 2012 at 1:32pm

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:44pm:
The Jewish revolts began in 164 BC (or as it is currently referred to, BCE 'Before Common Era') ie. before Christ, which was changed in deferrence to the Jews (we had to forsake Christ to pacify Yaweh). The final 'revolt' was in 132–135 CE (Common Era)

According to the Bible, the kingdom of Judah resulted from the break-up of the United kingdom of Israel (1020 to about 930 BC), created by Saul, David and Solomon, which was a union of the twelve Israelite tribes. After the northern tribes refused to accept Rehoboam, the son of Solomon, as their king. At first, only the tribe of Judah remained loyal to the house of David, but soon after the tribe of Benjamin joined Judah. The two kingdoms, Judah in the south and Israel in the north, co-existed uneasily after the split, until the destruction of Israel by the Assyrians in c.722/721 left Judah as the sole remaining kingdom.

Seeing as how you advocate ZIONIST Jews taking back ISRAEL ie 4000+ YEARS ago, How far back should Native American Indians Make their claim on America, or the Australian Aborigines on Australia? After all Native Americans were conned out of THEIR country only 392 years ago, and Aborigines a mere 224 years ago ...

King Herod, of Edomite extraction, was king of Israel from 40 BCE to 4 BCE. He was appointed by Rome and conquered the kingdom from the Hasmoneans. When Augustus became the Roman Caesar in the year 30 BCE, Herod convinced him of his loyalty, and Augustus rewarded him by adding Jericho, the coastal region south of Dor and the region east of the Sea of Galilee. In 23 BCE, he was given the Bashan, Horen, and Tarchon regions, and three years later, the Golan Heights. http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts+About+Israel/Israel+in+Maps/Kingdom+of+Herod-+30+BCE+to+70+CE.htm

How about EVERY religious and cultural groups claim back THEIR homelands.

Jews revolted and lost, they LEFT their country and settled in mainly ARAB countries (like Libya and Syria) some brave souls, (no Khazars ie Ashkenazim), remained and lived among Arabs in Palestine ... GET OVER IT!!!

Oh yeah ... Zionists are not satisfied with just owning PALESTINE, they want the whole world ... and they are are well into doing just that.

Have you any idea what that will mean to every country, religious group, culture, race? No I didn't think so ... You should take a good look at the prospect of becoming a slave to your 'heroes'.

Try and grasp the the difference between Jew and zionist Jew ... try and understand ZIONISM as it is TODAY ... You THINK you know but you're far from the truth ... all you understand is capitalism, but Zionism goes far beyond that.

Almost medieval in its simple-minded European Christianistic Jew-hate.

Can you not imagine that Aboriginal Australians and American Indians would take back their land if they could?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 24th, 2012 at 2:41pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:23pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:21pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:12pm:
Everyone believes in fairytales. That's what makes them real. Do you think freedom and democracy were discovered under a rock? Would you kill to defend them?

If a million people believe a stupid thing, it is still a stupid thing.
Believing in god does not make him real.

I believe that the Palestinians are fighting for freedom and democracy.


Have you ever asked them what they are fighting for?
I think that is fairly obvious


I think you are wrong. Again.

I am sure there are plenty of Palestinians who want freedom and democracy and who fight for it in their own way. But they are not likely to be the ones lobbing rockets at Israel. The ones lobbing rockets would most likely be the ones who want submission - for themselves and for everyone else. They would be the ones who reject all meaningful concepts of freedom and democracy. Ask Abu and Falah about it if you don't believe me.


Quote:
Seeing as how you advocate ZIONIST Jews taking back ISRAEL ie 4000+ YEARS ago, How far back should Native American Indians Make their claim on America, or the Australian Aborigines on Australia? After all Native Americans were conned out of THEIR country only 392 years ago, and Aborigines a mere 224 years ago ...


You mean like native title? How many rockets did the abos have to lob into Canberra to win that war?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 24th, 2012 at 3:34pm

falah wrote on Mar 3rd, 2012 at 9:46am:
As Nazi control of Eastern Europe collapsed in 1944, the Soviets who uncovered the concentration camps reported that the Nazis had extirminated 2 million people mostly communists:


Quote:
Leading Soviet citizens - party, state and army officials, workers, intellectuals and Jews - were special targets for extirmination said the Bulletin, which cited nazi documents.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=wjkbAAAAIBAJ&sjid=30wEAAAAIBAJ&pg=3642,4754072&dq=jews+million&hl=en 


Later the 2 million becomes in inflated to 5 million, then 6 million...and the Zionist propganda machine will teach us that the victims were mainly Jews.


Even if 5 or 6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis, why have we allowed the propganda machine to make us think that this is more important than the much larger number killed by Nazis in the USSR:


[quote] Victory Costs Russia 15 Million Lives

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=M0A8AAAAIBAJ&sjid=dysMAAAAIBAJ&pg=763,11028259&dq=murdered+million&hl=en 
[/quote]

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 24th, 2012 at 9:51pm

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:54am:
How did they trick you into getting cancer?


No trick it's common knowledge.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 24th, 2012 at 10:21pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:48pm:
Zionism is about home land for Jewish people where we belongs.

In Kingdom of Israel or Eretz O'Israel.

This is zionism dream -- for which my grandparentage - after they survive Nazis in Europe -- they go to dream from Ben Gurion - they leaves their land to go home to Israel.

They leaves Russia and they leaves Czseka Republik to go to Israel -- their home.

You're a zionist jew Avram and for that reason you are brainwashed by you're zionist leaders...

Zionism is not what it started out as ... today, even I, an irreligious Aussie could be a zionist, anyone of any religion, race, colour or creed. They (zionists), feed off people like you ... you don't even understand what is happening in Israel let alone in our country ... Zionism is all about globalisation, a homeland is a convenient lie to keep their trained monkeys chained to the organ grinder, and it's the perfect way to manipulate biblical prophesy.

Home??? Israel was never their home, the passing of 4000 years is too long to consider it home ... you, your parents and grandparents would have absolutly no knowledge of who or where your ancestors came from... unless you're Ashkenazim and in that case Israel is definitely not your homeland ...they're either Turkish, Russian or German and 'never' set foot in Judea.

One day (If you decide to research the truth) you will find this out for yourself ... to your regret. Then again maybe your soul is already lost and you lust for blood and are addicted.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 24th, 2012 at 10:25pm

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 1:32pm:
Almost medieval in its simple-minded European Christianistic Jew-hate.

Can you not imagine that Aboriginal Australians and American Indians would take back their land if they could?


Too banal to warrant an answer.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:21pm

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 2:41pm:
I think you are wrong. Again.

I am sure there are plenty of Palestinians who want freedom and democracy and who fight for it in their own way. But they are not likely to be the ones lobbing rockets at Israel. The ones lobbing rockets would most likely be the ones who want submission - for themselves and for everyone else. They would be the ones who reject all meaningful concepts of freedom and democracy. Ask Abu and Falah about it if you don't believe me.


Think? you don't think Fd, there is nothing original in your replies ... but  keep up the mantra and maybe something resembling truth will come to you ... But I doubt it.


Quote:
Seeing as how you advocate ZIONIST Jews taking back ISRAEL ie 4000+ YEARS ago, How far back should Native American Indians Make their claim on America, or the Australian Aborigines on Australia? After all Native Americans were conned out of THEIR country only 392 years ago, and Aborigines a mere 224 years ago ...

You mean like native title? How many rockets did the abos have to lob into Canberra to win that war?


Oh good you've move into my expertise ... I've lived in the bush most of my life, I live in a town with a very large Aboriginal population, and some of my best friends are Aborigines.

They are grateful for small mercies but don't consider they 'own' any land 'allotted' to them with all the restrictions attached with little or no say over mining ... you could hardly call a nuclear polluted desert a homeland ... there are some who risk living there but the savvy ones stay well clear. Archie Baton who gained Maralinga back for the tjarutja people was a regular visitor to my home and a real gentleman in the true sense of the word ... The Mabo land, Torres Strait Islands, title is the only title that has been legally recognised, all others are submissions only and still being considered ... The mining industy ran a fear campaign against it and tried to have it overturned

So much for a homeland ... they may not have lobbed any rockets but many have died waiting for it and still waiting.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:41am

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 10:25pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 1:32pm:
Almost medieval in its simple-minded European Christianistic Jew-hate.

Can you not imagine that Aboriginal Australians and American Indians would take back their land if they could?


Too banal to warrant an answer.

Hopefully, though, you've learned not to use the Aboriginal / American Indian land rights issues to support your hatred of Jews.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:49am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:41am:

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 10:25pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 1:32pm:
Almost medieval in its simple-minded European Christianistic Jew-hate.

Can you not imagine that Aboriginal Australians and American Indians would take back their land if they could?


Too banal to warrant an answer.

Hopefully, though, you've learned not to use the Aboriginal / American Indian land rights issues to support your hatred of Jews.


HUH!!!!! Go and play with your kiddie cars you're too young (or too stupid) to understand the topic.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:53am

Jan wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:49am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 12:41am:

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 10:25pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 1:32pm:
Almost medieval in its simple-minded European Christianistic Jew-hate.

Can you not imagine that Aboriginal Australians and American Indians would take back their land if they could?


Too banal to warrant an answer.

Hopefully, though, you've learned not to use the Aboriginal / American Indian land rights issues to support your hatred of Jews.


HUH!!!!! Go and play with your kiddie cars you're too young (or too stupid) to understand the topic.

Apparently you're not learning much. But anyway... If Aboriginal or American Indian activists had the wherewithal to resume control of 'stolen' land, do you think they would do so?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PZ547 on Mar 25th, 2012 at 1:12am
Jews are parasites ?

Are they ?

People claim so

Is it because we have to pay kosher tax, for example ?

But isn't it worth it ?

I mean, would cleaning the oven be as effective

if those rubber gloves

and the detergent

and the steel wool

and cans of oven cleaner

were NOT ritually blessed by a rabbi -- for a price ?


And what about the frozen peas and corn

would they be as healthful

and nourishing

if they too had not also been ritually blessed by a rabbi

Some claim the kosher tax is imposed on each pea and kernel of corn individually - imagine that - how fortunate we must be, huh, for those hard-working rabbis to be slaving to the bone, blessing each carrot, each tomato, each slice of cheese, each packet of washing detergent, each condom and padded bra, every pair of undies, every spool of thread, each bag of kitty litter -- for a price of course -- in order we can ...

Hang on !

WHY do we need our plastic garbage bags to be ritually blessed ?

No one's ever explained it

Athiests for example

do THEY have to pay the kosher tax imposed on virtually ever consumer item ?

And what about non-jews -- why are THEY paying this kosher tax ?

For that matter, WHERE is all that money going ?

Do non-jews and athiests have an address whereby they can apply for a refund ?

To whom does one apply for the refund -- Consumer Affairs ?  Office of Fair Trading ?

because I reckon I'm entitled to several hundred thousand dollars by this time

Is GST imposed on kosher-taxed goods ?

Or, is GST imposed separately on the kosher tax itself ?

I mean, ritual-blessing by a rabbi is a 'service' isn't it ?

Why hasn't the government published a booklet to explain the situation ?

It needs to happen, don't you feel ?

Maybe if the majority non-jews were provided exemption certificates, there might be less said about jews being parasites.  Right ?




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Mar 25th, 2012 at 9:51am
This thread title was chosen by Freediver


PZ547 wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 1:12am:
I mean, ritual-blessing by a rabbi is a 'service' isn't it ?


You have to wonder who benefits from this "service" of rabbis sucking baby penis:



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 25th, 2012 at 4:47pm

falah wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 9:51am:
You have to wonder who benefits from this "service" of rabbis sucking baby penis:



:o  OMG ..... Does he swallow....???




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 25th, 2012 at 6:42pm

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 9:51pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:54am:
How did they trick you into getting cancer?


No trick it's common knowledge.


Can you elaborate please?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 25th, 2012 at 8:12pm

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:44pm:
Have you any idea what that will mean to every country, religious group, culture, race?



Every country, religious group, culture and race will have loads of Nobel Prize winners and prosperity and peace??


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 26th, 2012 at 2:13am

Soren wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 8:12pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 12:44pm:
Have you any idea what that will mean to every country, religious group, culture, race?



Every country, religious group, culture and race will have loads of Nobel Prize winners and prosperity and peace??


In your dreams.

Careful what you wish for you just may get it.

I won't ask you to 'think' about it because that's apparently beyond your capabilities.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 26th, 2012 at 2:19am

freediver wrote on Mar 25th, 2012 at 6:42pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 9:51pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 24th, 2012 at 11:54am:
How did they trick you into getting cancer?


No trick it's common knowledge.


Can you elaborate please?


I could but you would only ask another dumb question, or make a smartar$e comment, intended to divert attention away from the topic at hand.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 26th, 2012 at 5:00am

Something more to contemplate about Jewish history  [smiley=wink.gif]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m97w9RPCduQ&feature=related




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 26th, 2012 at 6:28am

Jan wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 5:00am:
Something more to contemplate about Jewish history  [smiley=wink.gif]

Yes, Jew-hate is a tenacious pathology and an insidious feature of nearly all European cultures.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 26th, 2012 at 6:29am
This video adds nothing to the debate.

It is abhorrent to say that any race of people are parasites -
it's unacceptable - fullstop.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:10am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 6:29am:
This video adds nothing to the debate.

It is abhorrent to say that any race of people are parasites -
it's unacceptable - fullstop.


Freediver started this thread with a twisted reference to a post falah made, he could change it quite easily but prefers to allow it because it serves the purpose of creating more unacceptable comments ... typical Muslim hatred from this forum.

If you find that reference ahorrent try reading some of the comments made by a few racists on this board.

Racism is what is really abhorrent and unacceptable - fullstop.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:35am

NorthOfNorth wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 6:28am:

Jan wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 5:00am:
Something more to contemplate about Jewish history  [smiley=wink.gif]

Yes, Jew-hate is a tenacious pathology and an insidious feature of nearly all European cultures.


Truth and history can be very confronting ... Especially this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ynwuyBTO_3k&feature=endscreen



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 26th, 2012 at 12:03pm

Jan wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:10am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 6:29am:
This video adds nothing to the debate.

It is abhorrent to say that any race of people are parasites -
it's unacceptable - fullstop.


Freediver started this thread with a twisted reference to a post falah made, he could change it quite easily but prefers to allow it because it serves the purpose of creating more unacceptable comments ... typical Muslim hatred from this forum.

If you find that reference ahorrent try reading some of the comments made by a few racists on this board.

Racism is what is really abhorrent and unacceptable - fullstop.



Maybe your hatred of Jewish people should be stop now yes?


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 26th, 2012 at 12:58pm
So it's my fault all the crazy Muslim Jew-haters suddenly came out of the woodwork?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 26th, 2012 at 2:20pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:10am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 6:29am:
This video adds nothing to the debate.

It is abhorrent to say that any race of people are parasites -
it's unacceptable - fullstop.


Freediver started this thread with a twisted reference to a post falah made, he could change it quite easily but prefers to allow it because it serves the purpose of creating more unacceptable comments ... typical Muslim hatred from this forum.

If you find that reference ahorrent try reading some of the comments made by a few racists on this board.

Racism is what is really abhorrent and unacceptable - fullstop.


Maybe your hatred of Jewish people should be stop now yes?


I told you the truth, I don't hate true Jews and I admire their courage for standing up to Zionists.

But I will stop posting the truth in reply to the Zionists on this forum ... WHEN they stop posting Muslim hate and lies.

I don't support Muslims about their religion, I support the Palestinian  fight for Justice and freedom from Israels aggression.

Why don't you prove me wrong ... and stop making pathetic personal comments.

Research your own precious USrael 'deeply' and take heed of what you learn.

Religion was designed to create people like you zionists.












Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 26th, 2012 at 2:41pm

freediver wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 12:58pm:
So it's my fault all the crazy Muslim Jew-haters suddenly came out of the woodwork?


It IS your forum after all, and the Muslim haters follow your lead and do what your afraid to, so y'gotta expect flak in return.

Besides you love the entertainment it provides.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 26th, 2012 at 2:47pm

Jan wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 2:20pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 12:03pm:

Jan wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 8:10am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 6:29am:
This video adds nothing to the debate.

It is abhorrent to say that any race of people are parasites -
it's unacceptable - fullstop.


Freediver started this thread with a twisted reference to a post falah made, he could change it quite easily but prefers to allow it because it serves the purpose of creating more unacceptable comments ... typical Muslim hatred from this forum.

If you find that reference ahorrent try reading some of the comments made by a few racists on this board.

Racism is what is really abhorrent and unacceptable - fullstop.


Maybe your hatred of Jewish people should be stop now yes?


I told you the truth, I don't hate true Jews and I admire their courage for standing up to Zionists.

But I will stop posting the truth in reply to the Zionists on this forum ... WHEN they stop posting Muslim hate and lies.

I don't support Muslims about their religion, I support the Palestinian  fight for Justice and freedom from Israels aggression.

Why don't you prove me wrong ... and stop making pathetic personal comments.

Research your own precious USrael 'deeply' and take heed of what you learn.

Religion was designed to create people like you zionists.








We do not show aggression so it is you who is wrong on this comment.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 26th, 2012 at 3:12pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wM2S0L6xW5c

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 26th, 2012 at 3:18pm
You know that i too can find many videos that say so bad things about australia or maybe about Palestinians, but i do not do this.


Here is nice video for us too -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAIMHAPX6R4

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Mar 26th, 2012 at 3:27pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOQqhvplwdY

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 26th, 2012 at 7:05pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 3:18pm:
You know that i too can find many videos that say so bad things about australia


You cannot!!!

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Mar 26th, 2012 at 7:10pm

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 7:05pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 3:18pm:
You know that i too can find many videos that say so bad things about australia


You cannot!!!

Do you think the world can't hold a mirror to us?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 26th, 2012 at 7:14pm

freediver wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 12:58pm:
So it's my fault all the crazy Muslim Jew-haters suddenly came out of the woodwork?


Hi FD,
No - it's not your fault - they took the bait -
you are a fisherman & it worked really well.
These people have no moral right to preach hate
for people because perhaps their grandma MAY have been Jewish.
That's no better than a Nazi.

It's ok. to fairly criticise - in good faith -
one person for their faults but not
a whole race of people.
I am surprised that anyone  would
be so stupid as to simplify the world so much that
they could scapegoat a whole race for all their problems.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 26th, 2012 at 7:17pm
Jan,

Quote:
Racism is what is really abhorrent and unacceptable - fullstop.


Hi Jan,
Good - I'm glad we've reached the right conclusion.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Grey on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:51am
The fact of threads like this on the forum is that racism is tolerable. I don't think it is, I don't think racists should be allowed the space to spread their poison. It's uncivilised.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 27th, 2012 at 10:30am

Grey wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:51am:
The fact of threads like this on the forum is that racism is tolerable. I don't think it is, I don't think racists should be allowed the space to spread their poison. It's uncivilised.



Is noticing and ranking  different value systems and norms of behaviour racist?






Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Grey on Mar 27th, 2012 at 11:08am

Soren wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 10:30am:

Grey wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:51am:
The fact of threads like this on the forum is that racism is tolerable. I don't think it is, I don't think racists should be allowed the space to spread their poison. It's uncivilised.



Is noticing and ranking  different value systems and norms of behaviour racist?


Is the portrayal of all Jews as long nosed greedy, grasping hunchbacks racist? Is the portrayal of all muslims as murderous wife beaters racist? Is the portrayal of all Africans as sub-normal apes racist?

Is the pope a catholic?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 27th, 2012 at 6:13pm
Does trying to get a straight answer from a Muslim about whether Islam permits wife beating the same as portraying all muslims as murderous wife beaters?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 27th, 2012 at 7:02pm
soren's excused from being labelled racist, because he's doing it in an "intellectual" manner. He's detailing his gripes with other races in a civilised and cordial manner, so we should excuse him if he comes off as a racist turd.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 27th, 2012 at 8:00pm

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 7:02pm:
soren's excused from being labelled racist, because he's doing it in an "intellectual" manner. He's detailing his gripes with other races in a civilised and cordial manner, so we should excuse him if he comes off as a racist turd.



Well, done.

If I notice something disagreeable - or wrong even - about another cultural practice, I should give them a free pass on account that they re not whit.
If they are white, I should give them a free pass on account of being 'underprivileged'.

SO in the end the only people I can criticised are people like me.

Neat.

The only trouble is that this logic applies to people like me.

No tinted person is expected to notice deficiencies in other tinted people (unless they want to labelled white man's b!tch), no Muslim is ALLOWED to voice deficiencies in other Muslims, no cannibal is encouraged to express distaste for human flesh.

Only I am encouraged to express distaste for upholding my culture  - and that because it has done more for all humans than all the others put together. All the tinted and variously superstitious races are resentful for being evidently very light weight when it comes to cultural contribution to human well-being.

Resentment rules, what?




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 27th, 2012 at 8:02pm

Grey wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 11:08am:

Soren wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 10:30am:

Grey wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:51am:
The fact of threads like this on the forum is that racism is tolerable. I don't think it is, I don't think racists should be allowed the space to spread their poison. It's uncivilised.



Is noticing and ranking  different value systems and norms of behaviour racist?


Is the portrayal of all Jews as long nosed greedy, grasping hunchbacks racist? Is the portrayal of all muslims as murderous wife beaters racist? Is the portrayal of all Africans as sub-normal apes racist?

Is the pope a catholic?



Stereotypes are based on experience.

I am all for giving the individuals all the necessary encouragement to transcend their group - but most don't want to.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:14pm

Grey wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:51am:
The fact of threads like this on the forum is that racism is tolerable. I don't think it is, I don't think racists should be allowed the space to spread their poison. It's uncivilised.



You are forgetting that it also gives people like us
a chance to criticise racists.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:14pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:51am:
The fact of threads like this on the forum is that racism is tolerable. I don't think it is, I don't think racists should be allowed the space to spread their poison. It's uncivilised.



You are forgetting that it also gives people like us
a chance to criticise racists.



What is the underlying basis of your criticism? It has to be something that is well thought-out and able to withhold criticism well.

Arguing that we should ignore experience that forms stereotypes is not sufficient (argument from ignorance).

I am not suggesting that there are no excellent arguments against racism. What I am saying is that some arguments against reinforce and validate racism more than most explicit arguments in favour of it.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 27th, 2012 at 10:47pm

Soren wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:14pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:51am:
The fact of threads like this on the forum is that racism is tolerable. I don't think it is, I don't think racists should be allowed the space to spread their poison. It's uncivilised.



You are forgetting that it also gives people like us
a chance to criticise racists.



What is the underlying basis of your criticism? It has to be something that is well thought-out and able to withhold criticism well.

Arguing that we should ignore experience that forms stereotypes is not sufficient (argument from ignorance).

I am not suggesting that there are no excellent arguments against racism. What I am saying is that some arguments against reinforce and validate racism more than most explicit arguments in favour of it.


Racism led to the holocaust.

But simply - people should not be judged by the colour
of their skin but by the content of their character.

Now - where did I hear that?  ;)

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 28th, 2012 at 2:43am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 7:17pm:
Jan,

Quote:
Racism is what is really abhorrent and unacceptable - fullstop.


Hi Jan,
Good - I'm glad we've reached the right conclusion.


G'day Bobby, I've always been anti racism, that's all of my 70 years, I grew up in a town with a large proportion of Aborigines. In the early years there were forced to live in segregated religious communities which I thought even then was unjust and racist. When they were granted citizenship rights I saw terrible racist attitudes by the white community and I began my research about Australian history and what I found out appalled me.

My 2nd husband and I went to work for the Aboriginal community and made many wonderful friends but in the end we abandoned the work because of the white 'do-gooders' who used the work to benefit themslves and gain better government jobs. I became an out-spoken contributor to the local newspaper and a political activist.

I believe 100% in truth and exposure as the only way to counteract injustice and will speak up for the down-trodden until the day I die.






Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 28th, 2012 at 2:58am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 3:18pm:
You know that i too can find many videos that say so bad things about australia or maybe about Palestinians, but i do not do this.

Here is nice video for us too -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAIMHAPX6R4


Please, by all means post those Aussie crimes against humanity ... 'most' Aussies are aware of their past misdeeds and freely 'admit' to them ... ie we don't wear blinkers and rose coloured glasses.

Your video was a feel good propaganda vid that didn't show any interaction or friendship with Palestinians ... the music was very 'up-lifting for Israelis though not Jewish in any way ... what's wrong with Hava Nagila?




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 28th, 2012 at 3:14am
Part 1 of 3 videos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx7bBfsbuK4



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 28th, 2012 at 3:33am
The philosophy of Zionism and Israel Part 3


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMZf01L_T2Y&feature=relmfu



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 28th, 2012 at 4:47am
A News Story Israel didnt want the world to see...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GghXCUOFjbg&feature=relmfu



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by chicken_lipsforme on Mar 28th, 2012 at 10:59am

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 10:47pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:14pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:51am:
The fact of threads like this on the forum is that racism is tolerable. I don't think it is, I don't think racists should be allowed the space to spread their poison. It's uncivilised.



You are forgetting that it also gives people like us
a chance to criticise racists.



What is the underlying basis of your criticism? It has to be something that is well thought-out and able to withhold criticism well.

Arguing that we should ignore experience that forms stereotypes is not sufficient (argument from ignorance).

I am not suggesting that there are no excellent arguments against racism. What I am saying is that some arguments against reinforce and validate racism more than most explicit arguments in favour of it.


Racism led to the holocaust.
But simply - people should not be judged by the colour
of their skin but by the content of their character.

Now - where did I hear that?  ;)


Hitler had issues with two things, Jews and Communists, and I think he hated communists slightly more.
He found both though in the father of the Communist Soviet Union, Karl Marx.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 28th, 2012 at 7:37pm

Jan wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 2:43am:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 26th, 2012 at 7:17pm:
Jan,

Quote:
Racism is what is really abhorrent and unacceptable - fullstop.


Hi Jan,
Good - I'm glad we've reached the right conclusion.


G'day Bobby, I've always been anti racism, that's all of my 70 years, I grew up in a town with a large proportion of Aborigines. In the early years there were forced to live in segregated religious communities which I thought even then was unjust and racist. When they were granted citizenship rights I saw terrible racist attitudes by the white community and I began my research about Australian history and what I found out appalled me.

My 2nd husband and I went to work for the Aboriginal community and made many wonderful friends but in the end we abandoned the work because of the white 'do-gooders' who used the work to benefit themslves and gain better government jobs. I became an out-spoken contributor to the local newspaper and a political activist.

I believe 100% in truth and exposure as the only way to counteract injustice and will speak up for the down-trodden until the day I die.



Hi Jan,
Nice story & I'm glad you've joined up here on Ozpolitics.
I also try to go into bat for the battlers & I
put forward possible solutions to the world's problems.
It's great to have a voice.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 28th, 2012 at 7:41pm
Chicken,

Quote:
Hitler had issues with two things, Jews and Communists, and I think he hated communists slightly more.
He found both though in the father of the Communist Soviet Union, Karl Marx.


You know - I tried to read Mein Kampf once & even though I was
young at the time I could see that not a single statement had
any proof behind it - no quotes of anyone else -
it was just all unsubstantiated statements of hate.
I am surprised that people couldn't see that at the time.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 28th, 2012 at 8:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 10:47pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:14pm:

Grey wrote on Mar 27th, 2012 at 9:51am:
The fact of threads like this on the forum is that racism is tolerable. I don't think it is, I don't think racists should be allowed the space to spread their poison. It's uncivilised.



You are forgetting that it also gives people like us
a chance to criticise racists.



What is the underlying basis of your criticism? It has to be something that is well thought-out and able to withhold criticism well.

Arguing that we should ignore experience that forms stereotypes is not sufficient (argument from ignorance).

I am not suggesting that there are no excellent arguments against racism. What I am saying is that some arguments against reinforce and validate racism more than most explicit arguments in favour of it.


Racism led to the holocaust.

But simply - people should not be judged by the colour
of their skin but by the content of their character.

Now - where did I hear that?  ;)



The content of their character is formed to a large extent by the culture they imbibe, both voluntarily and otherwise.

Race does not determine culture but it does have an undeniable correlation when taken together with social class (another word for sub-culture).  SO while race (skin colour) is not an inescapable determiner - thanks tio individual freedom - , it is a good predicter - hence the recognisable stereotypes.  And what is predicted is sometimes positive, sometimes negative, sometimes completely indeterminate.

Only a fool would ignore the cultural influences on any person and these influences can be desribed along racial and class lines. Neither should be ignored.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bobbythebat1 on Mar 29th, 2012 at 7:12am
Soren - don't try and be an apologist for racism.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 29th, 2012 at 12:18pm

Soren wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 8:56pm:
[quote author=545954544F425E5354574207360 link=1327483631/230#230 date=1332852473]The content of their character is formed to a large extent by the culture they imbibe, both voluntarily and otherwise.

Race does not determine culture but it does have an undeniable correlation when taken together with social class (another word for sub-culture).  SO while race (skin colour) is not an inescapable determiner - thanks tio individual freedom - , it is a good predicter - hence the recognisable stereotypes.  And what is predicted is sometimes positive, sometimes negative, sometimes completely indeterminate.

Only a fool would ignore the cultural influences on any person and these influences can be desribed along racial and class lines. Neither should be ignored.


So how would you describe that correlation in Jews, who are NOT a race but a religion ie. a culture with several 'classes' such as authodox, conservative and reform, and also the sub-groups of Ashkenazim (Khazaria/german), Sephadim (Iberia/Spain) and Zionism (Secular from both groups ie not even a religion)?




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 29th, 2012 at 4:33pm
Jan -- You deny me my right to live in my own country and is base on my race yes?

Tell me how is not anti-semitism

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Jan on Mar 29th, 2012 at 5:15pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 4:33pm:
Jan -- You deny me my right to live in my own country and is base on my race yes?

Tell me how is not anti-semitism


It's not anti-semitism, that word is a misnomer ... Arabs are also Semites. I support TRUE Torah Jews I also support Palestinian Arabs. If your Ancestors didn't speak a semitic language you are NOT a Semite

Until the Balfour was acted upon the Jews, Arabs and Christians lived together peaceable in Palestine for hundreds of years.

Plus Jews are NOT a race they are a RELIGION ... recent DNA results proved Jews share the same DNA as ARABS ... the Jews who remained in Palestine with other Arabs are the ONLY ones who can call USRAEL their homeland ... The occupiers via the Balfour declaration cannot.

So depending on where your ancient ancestors came from you are not even true Jews.

Are you Sephadic or Ashkenazi?



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 29th, 2012 at 5:19pm

Jan wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 5:15pm:
Plus Jews are NOT a race they are a RELIGION ...



You mean in the same kinda way as Aboriginese are not a race but a religion? Or Shintoists are not a race (Japanese) but a religion?


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 29th, 2012 at 6:06pm

Jan wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 5:15pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 4:33pm:
Jan -- You deny me my right to live in my own country and is base on my race yes?

Tell me how is not anti-semitism


It's not anti-semitism, that word is a misnomer ... Arabs are also Semites. I support TRUE Torah Jews I also support Palestinian Arabs. If your Ancestors didn't speak a semitic language you are NOT a Semite

Until the Balfour was acted upon the Jews, Arabs and Christians lived together peaceable in Palestine for hundreds of years.

Plus Jews are NOT a race they are a RELIGION ... recent DNA results proved Jews share the same DNA as ARABS ... the Jews who remained in Palestine with other Arabs are the ONLY ones who can call USRAEL their homeland ... The occupiers via the Balfour declaration cannot.

So depending on where your ancient ancestors came from you are not even true Jews.

Are you Sephadic or Ashkenazi?



Jan -- i am from Tel Aviv.
Israel is my home.

That is 100% always true.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 29th, 2012 at 9:06pm

Jan wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 5:15pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 4:33pm:
Jan -- You deny me my right to live in my own country and is base on my race yes?

Tell me how is not anti-semitism


It's not anti-semitism, that word is a misnomer ... Arabs are also Semites. I support TRUE Torah Jews I also support Palestinian Arabs. If your Ancestors didn't speak a semitic language you are NOT a Semite

Until the Balfour was acted upon the Jews, Arabs and Christians lived together peaceable in Palestine for hundreds of years.

Plus Jews are NOT a race they are a RELIGION ... recent DNA results proved Jews share the same DNA as ARABS ... the Jews who remained in Palestine with other Arabs are the ONLY ones who can call USRAEL their homeland ... The occupiers via the Balfour declaration cannot.

So depending on where your ancient ancestors came from you are not even true Jews.

Are you Sephadic or Ashkenazi?



There are 7.8 million Israelis.

75 % of them is Jewish = 5.8 million people.

What would you do with those 5.8 million Jews if Israel was to be  'given back' tomorrow to - well, to whom? The 1.5 million Arab Israelis? To Jordan? Egypt? Syria?

Who has a greater claim to the territory of Israel than the 75 % of the population who actually live there?



Who exactly would you give Israel back to?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 30th, 2012 at 9:00pm

Jan wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 12:18pm:

Soren wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 8:56pm:
[quote author=545954544F425E5354574207360 link=1327483631/230#230 date=1332852473]The content of their character is formed to a large extent by the culture they imbibe, both voluntarily and otherwise.

Race does not determine culture but it does have an undeniable correlation when taken together with social class (another word for sub-culture).  SO while race (skin colour) is not an inescapable determiner - thanks tio individual freedom - , it is a good predicter - hence the recognisable stereotypes.  And what is predicted is sometimes positive, sometimes negative, sometimes completely indeterminate.

Only a fool would ignore the cultural influences on any person and these influences can be desribed along racial and class lines. Neither should be ignored.


So how would you describe that correlation in Jews, who are NOT a race but a religion ie. a culture with several 'classes' such as authodox, conservative and reform, and also the sub-groups of Ashkenazim (Khazaria/german), Sephadim (Iberia/Spain) and Zionism (Secular from both groups ie not even a religion)?



The Jews never had a civil war, despite being the proverbial kvetching contrarians. They outlasted all the ancient peoples you read about in the Bible.
Frederick the Great's confessor, when asked by the Emperor for a proof of God's existence, replied: "The Jews, Sire."

The Jews are the eternal reminders onto the nations.






Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 31st, 2012 at 8:44am

Jan wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 5:15pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 4:33pm:
Jan -- You deny me my right to live in my own country and is base on my race yes?

Tell me how is not anti-semitism


It's not anti-semitism, that word is a misnomer ... Arabs are also Semites. I support TRUE Torah Jews I also support Palestinian Arabs. If your Ancestors didn't speak a semitic language you are NOT a Semite

Until the Balfour was acted upon the Jews, Arabs and Christians lived together peaceable in Palestine for hundreds of years.

Plus Jews are NOT a race they are a RELIGION ... recent DNA results proved Jews share the same DNA as ARABS ... the Jews who remained in Palestine with other Arabs are the ONLY ones who can call USRAEL their homeland ... The occupiers via the Balfour declaration cannot.

So depending on where your ancient ancestors came from you are not even true Jews.

Are you Sephadic or Ashkenazi?


Jan, what should happen to people born in Israel whose recent ancestors are not local? Should they be expelled, and where should they be forced to go?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Mar 31st, 2012 at 8:49am
i was in Tel Aviv born, my mother is in Jerusalem and my father is in Tel Aviv born.

So you tells me where i must go and live if my country is not Israel??

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 31st, 2012 at 11:00am

Soren wrote on Mar 30th, 2012 at 9:00pm:
The Jews never had a civil war, despite being the proverbial kvetching contrarians. They outlasted all the ancient peoples you read about in the Bible.


Enough of your self-delusional homage to the Hebrews.

Never heard of the story of the Shibboleth? I'm sure I've heard you use the word before, although it seems you obviously didn't know the story behind it. The fact that the Jews were engaged in a bloody civil war, and by using this word as a determiner of which Jews belonged to a different tribe, they slew about 42,000 in one day.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Mar 31st, 2012 at 11:03am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 31st, 2012 at 8:49am:
i was in Tel Aviv born, my mother is in Jerusalem and my father is in Tel Aviv born.

So you tells me where i must go and live if my country is not Israel??


Yeh and all the Palestinians who you've herded into refugee camps, where do you think they, their parents, their grandparents, their great grandparents their.... and so on were born????

Go back to where your grandparents came from, that is your home, leave the Palestinians to their home which has been their home for thousands of years.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 31st, 2012 at 8:58pm

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 31st, 2012 at 11:03am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 31st, 2012 at 8:49am:
i was in Tel Aviv born, my mother is in Jerusalem and my father is in Tel Aviv born.

So you tells me where i must go and live if my country is not Israel??


Yeh and all the Palestinians who you've herded into refugee camps, where do you think they, their parents, their grandparents, their great grandparents their.... and so on were born????

Go back to where your grandparents came from, that is your home, leave the Palestinians to their home which has been their home for thousands of years.



Does that apply to you and so you will also go back to Germany?

Or Muslims are not supposed to retreat?




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Mar 31st, 2012 at 9:00pm

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 31st, 2012 at 11:00am:

Soren wrote on Mar 30th, 2012 at 9:00pm:
The Jews never had a civil war, despite being the proverbial kvetching contrarians. They outlasted all the ancient peoples you read about in the Bible.


Enough of your self-delusional homage to the Hebrews.



Gimme a Jew over 100 Muslims any day, pal.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by adamant on Apr 3rd, 2012 at 1:45pm
Jans opinion of events on page 13 of this thread.

According to the Bible, the kingdom of Judah resulted from the break-up of the United kingdom of Israel (1020 to about 930 BC), created by Saul, David and Solomon, which was a union of the twelve Israelite tribes. After the northern tribes refused to accept Rehoboam, the son of Solomon, as their king. At first, only the tribe of Judah remained loyal to the house of David, but soon after the tribe of Benjamin joined Judah. The two kingdoms, Judah in the south and Israel in the north, co-existed uneasily after the split, until the destruction of Israel by the Assyrians in c.722/721 left Judah as the sole remaining kingdom.

Wikipedia's version is exactly the same suprise suprise?

According to the Bible, the kingdom of Judah resulted from the break-up of the United kingdom of Israel (1020 to about 930 BC), created by Saul, David and Solomon, which was a union of the twelve Israelite tribes. After the northern tribes refused to accept Rehoboam, the son of Solomon, as their king. At first, only the tribe of Judah remained loyal to the house of David, but soon after the tribe of Benjamin joined Judah. The two kingdoms, Judah in the south and Israel in the north, co-existed uneasily after the split, until the destruction of Israel by the Assyrians in c.722/721 left Judah as the sole remaining kingdom.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Apr 5th, 2012 at 9:33pm

Soren wrote on Mar 31st, 2012 at 8:58pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Mar 31st, 2012 at 11:03am:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Mar 31st, 2012 at 8:49am:
i was in Tel Aviv born, my mother is in Jerusalem and my father is in Tel Aviv born.

So you tells me where i must go and live if my country is not Israel??


Yeh and all the Palestinians who you've herded into refugee camps, where do you think they, their parents, their grandparents, their great grandparents their.... and so on were born????

Go back to where your grandparents came from, that is your home, leave the Palestinians to their home which has been their home for thousands of years.



Does that apply to you and so you will also go back to Germany?

Or Muslims are not supposed to retreat?



Hello?? Have you gone back to Germany, Babu?


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 6th, 2012 at 12:05pm

Soren wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 9:33pm:
Hello?? Have you gone back to Germany, Babu?


When I start supporting the eradication of Aboriginals, and the removal of them from their lands and putting them in refugee camps and start arguing this land belongs to the British, perhaps that might be a valid question.

Until then, you know it's just a pathetic attempt to divert from that which you obviously support.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Apr 6th, 2012 at 8:16pm

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 6th, 2012 at 12:05pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 5th, 2012 at 9:33pm:
Hello?? Have you gone back to Germany, Babu?


When I start supporting the eradication of Aboriginals, and the removal of them from their lands and putting them in refugee camps and start arguing this land belongs to the British, perhaps that might be a valid question.

Until then, you know it's just a pathetic attempt to divert from that which you obviously support.


"Go back to where your grandparents came from, that is your home, leave the Aboriginese to their home which has been their home for thousands of years."


If the jews should leave israel, you should leave Australia.  The Jews have far more right to Israel than you do to Australia.




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 7th, 2012 at 12:22am

Soren wrote on Apr 6th, 2012 at 8:16pm:
"Go back to where your grandparents came from, that is your home, leave the Aboriginese to their home which has been their home for thousands of years."


Right, and do you see me kicking them out of their homes and making them refugees? Do you see me dotting their land with checkpoints, making their lives a living hell?? When you see this kind of stuff, let me know, and we'll continue your ridiculous line of reasoning.


Soren wrote on Apr 6th, 2012 at 8:16pm:
If the jews should leave israel, you should leave Australia.  The Jews have far more right to Israel than you do to Australia.


No they do not. My lineage has been in Australia since at least the 1820's, almost 200 years. They have been in Palestine no more than about 60 years in most cases.

You seem to be under some delusion that belonging to a land is about ancient stories, instead of about the here and now. Land ownership is established by recent presence, not ancient presence. The Palestinians have the most recent presence, unbroken for 1000's of years. The Jews have nothing but Biblical tales.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Apr 7th, 2012 at 9:24am

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 12:22am:
The Jews have nothing but Biblical tales.


And presence. 6.5 million of them. There are more Jews present in Israel than there are Arabs there.
So it must belong to the Jews, even by your logic.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 7th, 2012 at 11:14am

Soren wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 9:24am:

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 12:22am:
The Jews have nothing but Biblical tales.


And presence. 6.5 million of them. There are more Jews present in Israel than there are Arabs there.
So it must belong to the Jews, even by your logic.


If they can hold it, eventually, yes. For now, no. They are just illegal squatters who are making an entire nation of people's lives a living hell.

I very much doubt they'll last as long as the crusader incursion did, and I predict they'll be gone within about 10-15 years, perhaps even sooner due to the speedier than expected revival of the Muslim lands.

Once the West's economic might wanes so badly they can no longer maintain their own level of luxury, they'll soon tire of wasting their wealth, time and security on the Zionist entity.

Most of the Jews will flee back to their countries of origin. Those with no dual citizenship will either seek asylum in the West or try to make peace with the Palestinians.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Apr 7th, 2012 at 9:34pm

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 11:14am:

Soren wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 9:24am:

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 12:22am:
The Jews have nothing but Biblical tales.


And presence. 6.5 million of them. There are more Jews present in Israel than there are Arabs there.
So it must belong to the Jews, even by your logic.


If they can hold it, eventually, yes. For now, no. They are just illegal squatters who are making an entire nation of people's lives a living hell.

I very much doubt they'll last as long as the crusader incursion did, and I predict they'll be gone within about 10-15 years, perhaps even sooner due to the speedier than expected revival of the Muslim lands.

Once the West's economic might wanes so badly they can no longer maintain their own level of luxury, they'll soon tire of wasting their wealth, time and security on the Zionist entity.

Most of the Jews will flee back to their countries of origin. Those with no dual citizenship will either seek asylum in the West or try to make peace with the Palestinians.



The Muslim have nothing. You can't wage war on $2 a day - half of Egypt's population's wealth.
The Iraqis and the Saudis will not attack Israel.
Iran is dying. Syria is finished.
Turkey?
Nah.
Paki?
Nah.
Lybia?
Nah.

Who, then? Islam is backward, economically negligible, organisationally crap. It has nothing.






Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 8th, 2012 at 10:19am

Soren wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 9:34pm:
The Muslim have nothing. You can't wage war on $2 a day - half of Egypt's population's wealth.
The Iraqis and the Saudis will not attack Israel.
Iran is dying. Syria is finished.
Turkey?
Nah.
Paki?
Nah.
Lybia?
Nah.


You are so deluded, these countries are being revived not finishing. They are only just beginning, after being under neo-colonial occupation for so long. But it's ok, keep believing that  ;D

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Apr 8th, 2012 at 10:21am

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 11:14am:
Most of the Jews will flee back to their countries of origin. Those with no dual citizenship will either seek asylum in the West or try to make peace with the Palestinians.



I am Jewish, Tel Aviv is my home and my origin.
I do not have another country but is Israel.

We go no where.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Apr 8th, 2012 at 10:22am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 10:21am:

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 11:14am:
Most of the Jews will flee back to their countries of origin. Those with no dual citizenship will either seek asylum in the West or try to make peace with the Palestinians.



I am Jewish, Tel Aviv is my home and my origin.
I do not have another country but is Israel.

We go no where.



So my parents too is from Tel Aviv and Jerusalem.
We is Israeli first and always.

No other country origin.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:19am
Yeh we've already been through it, your grandparents were the first generation of squatters.

And we've already discussed your home country, Czech Republic.

So off you go. Get out of Palestine and go back to Czech, so the poor Palestinians can again go back to their homes.

Your family left a good home in their ancestral country (Czech Republic) so you could go and take someone elses home, and to make them homeless. This is despicable. This is inhuman. I honestly don't know how you live with yourself and look yourself in the mirror, knowing that you've made an entire nation of people homeless, just so you can go and take their homes. You're a low life maggot parasite.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:32am

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 10:19am:
You are so deluded, these countries are being revived not finishing.

Not so true of Pakistan... A nation crippled by its own internal corruption and, it seems, incapable of stabilising itself. Its flawed creation, its inability to establish a constitution early in its life, its repression of minorities (leading to the secession of East Pakistan) made worse by Zia ul-haq's Islamisation program - Never mind its recent history of corruption writ-large - indicates that Pakistan is closer to collapse than revival in the the near future.

As for its Muslim identity... Even Pakistanis cannot define singularly what it means to be Muslim.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:48am
Pakistan is also on the verge of revival. Their future is indisputably tied to that of Afghanistan. Their current situation is a result of Musharraf and his acquiesance to the U.S, and once his legacy is removed, and Afghanistan is again returned to its people, then Pakistan will be also on the path to revival.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by NorthOfNorth on Apr 8th, 2012 at 12:09pm

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:48am:
Pakistan is also on the verge of revival. Their future is indisputably tied to that of Afghanistan. Their current situation is a result of Musharraf and his acquiesance to the U.S, and once his legacy is removed, and Afghanistan is again returned to its people, then Pakistan will be also on the path to revival.

That's a very naive and unjustifiably optimistic perspective on Pakistan. The country has a long history of socio-political failure and massive corruption almost since its creation.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Apr 8th, 2012 at 12:29pm

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:19am:
Your family left a good home in their ancestral country (Czech Republic) .


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Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 8th, 2012 at 1:25pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:19am:
Your family left a good home in their ancestral country (Czech Republic) .


Yes we often hear the claim "We were just escaping Nazi persecution", yet many Jews, especially the large Zionist organisations refused for Jews to go anywhere but Palestine. Australia even offered an empty piece of land, but they flatly refused. They had to take someone elses land, and make those people homeless, and cause a century of bloodshed and warfare and chaos.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:09pm

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 1:25pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 12:29pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:19am:
Your family left a good home in their ancestral country (Czech Republic) .


Yes we often hear the claim "We were just escaping Nazi persecution", yet many Jews, especially the large Zionist organisations refused for Jews to go anywhere but Palestine. Australia even offered an empty piece of land, but they flatly refused. They had to take someone elses land, and make those people homeless, and cause a century of bloodshed and warfare and chaos.




IMAGE

"Abdullah my brother, the Jews have take our land, and we are a homeless people.
WAIL! WAIL! WAIL!
Those dastardly Zionists!!
We want our land back!"

/sarc off



'We want our land back.' ?

p.s.
So did the Jewish people.      ;)







There is no equity in your moslem mind Abu.

What is new ???




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:45pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:09pm:


So you think it is fair that Jews should come along and steal about 10% of the non-desert farming lands of the Middle East?

Is that equity. The West must help the 6 million Jews violently steal 10% of the fertile land from the 300 million Arabs?






Or that the West should help the 6 million Jews violently steal one of the few water supplies in the Middle East from the 300 million Arabs?




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:43pm

falah wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:45pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 2:09pm:


So you think it is fair that Jews should come along and steal about 10% of the non-desert farming lands of the Middle East?


No.     .....but the Jews didn't do, what you are accusing them of.



Quote:

Is that equity.


No.     .....but the Jews didn't do, what you are accusing them of.




Quote:

The West must help the 6 million Jews violently steal 10% of the fertile land from the 300 million Arabs?


No.     .....but the Jews didn't do, what you are accusing them of.

The land of Isreal, was war booty.

A concept i would have thought that all moslems would be familiar with.

ISLAM has religious doctrine about 'war booty'.

And moslems believe in the concept of 'war booty'.

...EXCEPT WHEN OTHERS [non-moslems] LIBERATE LAND FROM MOSLEMS.

Then, 'war booty' is referred to [by moslems] as 'stealing' from moslems.







Quote:

Or that the West should help the 6 million Jews violently steal one of the few water supplies in the Middle East from the 300 million Arabs?


300 million Arabs eh?

You would think that 6 million Jews would be no match for 300 million Arabs, WHO ALL WANT TO DIE FOR ALLAH.

But falah, mostly those 300 million Arabs moslems, are moslems just like you.

They are 'All show, and no go.' moslems.

Every time they start a fight with Israel, they get punished [by Allah], and then those '300 million Arabs' moslems all run home, with their tails between their legs.

"WAIL! WAIL! WAIL!    ....WHINE! WHINE! WHINE!    .....THE JEWS BEAT US AGAIN.

ITS JUST NOT FAIR!      .....WAIL! WAIL! WAIL!"


???


falah,

If those 300 million Arabs moslems, were real moslems, they would keep fighting until they had 'liberated' 'Palestine'.

Coz, the leaders of those 300 million Arabs moslems make the claim that Allah is on their side.

So shouldn't those 300 million Arabs moslems, be prepared to fight to the death, so that they could go to Allah's bordello in the sky if they die ?

Or are those those 300 million Arabs moslems too frightened to go to Allah's bordello in the sky ?

           :D           :D           :D





"O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter.
Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least. For Allah hath power over all things."
Koran 9.38, 39







"The Prophet said, "Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah's Cause)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.053


"The Prophet said, "By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya' (army-unit) setting out in Allah's Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah's Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred."
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.054


"The Prophet said, "Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah)." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.072


"I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The example of a Mujahid [religious fighter] in Allah's Cause-- and Allah knows better who really strives in His Cause----is like a person who fasts and prays continuously. Allah guarantees that He will admit the Mujahid in His Cause into Paradise if he is killed, otherwise He will return him to his home safely with rewards and war booty." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.046

i.e. Muhammad is reported as saying that for a moslem, religious fighting, is the same as a religious devotion.
Jihad [religious fighting], is as if a muslim 'fasts and prays continuously'.
And that Allah guarantees that a Mujahid [religious fighter] will enter Paradise, if he is killed.


"A man came to the Prophet and asked, "A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah's Cause?" The Prophet said, "He who fights that Allah's Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.065
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.080i


"Allah's Apostle was asked, "What is the best deed?" He replied, "To believe in Allah and His Apostle (Muhammad). The questioner then asked, "What is the next (in goodness)? He replied, "To participate in Jihad (religious fighting) in Allah's Cause." "
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #001.002.026





Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:50pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:43pm:
Coz, the leaders of those 300 million Arabs moslems make the claim that Allah is on their side.


Yadda, The only time "Arabs" ever faced "Israel" was under the leadership of British military officers and traiterous puppet rulers who have admitted they were meeting with "Israel" all along, and plotting with them to dupe their own people.

When the "Arabs" finally wake up, as is happening today as we speak, and they get back on their feet, "Israel" will vanish within an instant.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Apr 8th, 2012 at 4:08pm

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:50pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:43pm:
Coz, the leaders of those 300 million Arabs moslems make the claim that Allah is on their side.


Yadda, The only time "Arabs" ever faced "Israel" was under the leadership of British military officers and traiterous puppet rulers who have admitted they were meeting with "Israel" all along, and plotting with them to dupe their own people.

When the "Arabs" finally wake up, as is happening today as we speak, and they get back on their feet, "Israel" will vanish within an instant.



In your dreams Abu.

And, your statement is full of ISLAMIC historic revisionism [rewriting of history to explain the 'lamentable' circumstance of moslems],   ...in other words, just spewing more moslem falsehood and lies.




AND, you are not a genuine moslem Abu.

You are a moslem imposter.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 8th, 2012 at 4:28pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:50pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:43pm:
Coz, the leaders of those 300 million Arabs moslems make the claim that Allah is on their side.


Yadda, The only time "Arabs" ever faced "Israel" was under the leadership of British military officers and traiterous puppet rulers who have admitted they were meeting with "Israel" all along, and plotting with them to dupe their own people.

When the "Arabs" finally wake up, as is happening today as we speak, and they get back on their feet, "Israel" will vanish within an instant.



In your dreams Abu.

And, your statement is full of ISLAMIC historic revisionism [rewriting of history to explain the 'lamentable' circumstance of moslems],   ...in other words, just spewing more moslem falsehood and lies.




AND, you are not a genuine moslem Abu.

You are a moslem imposter.


Do you deny the fact that "Glubb Pasha" (ie. John Glubb), a British army officer, was in charge of the Jordanian army? (ie. the only properly trained military force to be part of the early wars)? Do you deny that almost all of the top 10 officers of the Jordanian army were also British military/intelligence officers? Do you deny that King s Abdullah & Hussein both met with and gave intelligence to Israeli leaders throughout the various wars?

You are a delusional fool Yadda if you think otherwise.

The "Arab" regimes were all, without exception, founded by the British to serve British interests, and it was not in British interests to remove Israel, the entity they'd just spent 20 odd years building. They did however have to concoct a ruse to convince the people that Israel was invincible, and that's what the various "Arab-Israeli wars" were really all about.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Apr 8th, 2012 at 4:28pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:50pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:43pm:
Coz, the leaders of those 300 million Arabs moslems make the claim that Allah is on their side.


Yadda, The only time "Arabs" ever faced "Israel" was under the leadership of British military officers and traiterous puppet rulers who have admitted they were meeting with "Israel" all along, and plotting with them to dupe their own people.

When the "Arabs" finally wake up, as is happening today as we speak, and they get back on their feet, "Israel" will vanish within an instant.



In your dreams Abu.

And, your statement is full of ISLAMIC historic revisionism [rewriting of history to explain the 'lamentable' circumstance of moslems],   ...in other words, just spewing more moslem falsehood and lies.




AND, you are not a genuine moslem Abu.

You are a moslem imposter.



i.e.

In your little 'narrative' [your historic revisionism] you are telling the world that it is Allah's will, that the moslem armies should be defeated and humiliated in their conflicts with Israel.

You poor things.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Apr 8th, 2012 at 4:39pm

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 4:28pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 4:08pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:50pm:

Yadda wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 3:43pm:
Coz, the leaders of those 300 million Arabs moslems make the claim that Allah is on their side.


Yadda, The only time "Arabs" ever faced "Israel" was under the leadership of British military officers and traiterous puppet rulers who have admitted they were meeting with "Israel" all along, and plotting with them to dupe their own people.

When the "Arabs" finally wake up, as is happening today as we speak, and they get back on their feet, "Israel" will vanish within an instant.



In your dreams Abu.

And, your statement is full of ISLAMIC historic revisionism [rewriting of history to explain the 'lamentable' circumstance of moslems],   ...in other words, just spewing more moslem falsehood and lies.




AND, you are not a genuine moslem Abu.

You are a moslem imposter.


Do you deny the fact that "Glubb Pasha" (ie. John Glubb), a British army officer, was in charge of the Jordanian army? (ie. the only properly trained military force to be part of the early wars)? Do you deny that almost all of the top 10 officers of the Jordanian army were also British military/intelligence officers? Do you deny that King s Abdullah & Hussein both met with and gave intelligence to Israeli leaders throughout the various wars?


Q.
And if your account is accurate, who was it, that appointed these Britishers, to command moslem armies ???

A.
Moslems.

           ;D           ;D           ;D






Hey Abu,

In 1948, who trained, and who was in command, of the disparate Israeli forces ???

When the Israelis [from memory] had 1 Spitfire, 1 Messerschmidt, and surplus WWII rifles to defend themselves with ???

A.
Holocaust weary Jews, who had been trying to build a nation.







Quote:

You are a delusional fool Yadda if you think otherwise.


Look in a mirror Abu.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Apr 8th, 2012 at 11:15pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jan 26th, 2012 at 8:30pm:
Yadda,

I'm thoroughly amazed that every time something about the Bible is shown to you, you thrust your fingers into your ears and quote the verse about not vexing people. When it's clearly shown to you the Bible commanded to vex people, you come up with the excuse of them being people who deserved to be vexed....

Yet when you read 1 passage from the Qur'an completely out of context, you instantly hold it up as proof Islam is supposedly an oppressive and evil religion, and refuse to even read the verses around it which give it context.

You are the epitome of hypocrisy.



Judaism and Christianity are imbued with a sense of self-critical distance.

On the other hand, a self-critical look at itself would mean the death of Islam.
You are living proof of that. So is every bearded, shouting, crazy-eyed Muslim cleric. You are absolutely unable to look at yourself with a self-critical eye. That's what makes you alien and strange.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Apr 14th, 2012 at 2:40pm

Bobby. wrote on Mar 29th, 2012 at 7:12am:
Soren - don't try and be an apologist for racism.



A lot of completely buggered up cultural practices get waived through into this great brown land under the lazy, buggered up cultural practice of branding everything racist if it is critical of buggered up cultural practices.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Apr 16th, 2012 at 11:48pm

Soren wrote on Apr 14th, 2012 at 2:40pm:
A lot of completely buggered up cultural practices get waived through into this great brown land under the lazy, buggered up cultural practice of branding everything racist if it is critical of buggered up cultural practices.


Agreed 100%, look at all the Yank crap we have to put up with on TV. If there's one culture we really should be keeping out, it's theirs. Not to mention all the Euro-trash that comes here and turns our streets into mafia ganglands.

Finally you make a decent point Sorry.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Apr 17th, 2012 at 10:08am
I agree. Let's ban US television. Its violence and sexploitation is ruining Australian culture.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by brumbie on Apr 17th, 2012 at 2:05pm

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 16th, 2012 at 11:48pm:

Soren wrote on Apr 14th, 2012 at 2:40pm:
A lot of completely buggered up cultural practices get waived through into this great brown land under the lazy, buggered up cultural practice of branding everything racist if it is critical of buggered up cultural practices.


Agreed 100%, look at all the Yank crap we have to put up with on TV. If there's one culture we really should be keeping out, it's theirs. Not to mention all the Euro-trash that comes here and turns our streets into mafia ganglands.

Finally you make a decent point Sorry.
 


Agreed,and the Lebanese gangs in Sydney of course.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 17th, 2012 at 2:29pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBptq6YBehY

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Apr 17th, 2012 at 9:55pm

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 8th, 2012 at 10:19am:

Soren wrote on Apr 7th, 2012 at 9:34pm:
The Muslim have nothing. You can't wage war on $2 a day - half of Egypt's population's wealth.
The Iraqis and the Saudis will not attack Israel.
Iran is dying. Syria is finished.
Turkey?
Nah.
Paki?
Nah.
Lybia?
Nah.


You are so deluded, these countries are being revived not finishing. They are only just beginning, after being under neo-colonial occupation for so long. But it's ok, keep believing that  ;D



Egypt 'needs £7.5 billion bail-out to avoid bankruptcy'


They are just beginning, eh? Beginning with adopting the Greek model? Shurely shome mishtake.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2012 at 10:55pm
Shurely shome mishtake.

Forgiven again.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Imperium on Apr 18th, 2012 at 2:55pm
lmao did political puppet just cite david duke

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on Apr 18th, 2012 at 2:59pm

barnaby joe wrote on Apr 18th, 2012 at 2:55pm:
lmao did political puppet just cite david duke

I dont care who made it, its what in it that I am posting.
Respond to the contents, debunk what is said

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Imperium on Apr 18th, 2012 at 3:02pm
agree i just thought it was funny

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Apr 25th, 2012 at 9:21am

falah wrote on Apr 25th, 2012 at 9:18am:

Soren wrote on Apr 23rd, 2012 at 11:25pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Apr 21st, 2012 at 6:20pm:
a piece of rock that can avail you naught?



While half of the Egyptian population worshipping Allah thereby avail themselves to $2 a day.
TWO DOLLARS!

Everyone can readily see how much more it avails you to worship Allah than piece of rock.  Those stupid worshippers of Buddha can only dream of $2 a day!!!

Muslims do not worship money.

However, there are other religions which are known for money-worship.
Muslims do not worship money. Althopugh there are other religions which are known for money-worship.


Quote:
Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers...“It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it ‘a den of thieves.’”...When the chief priests and the rabbis saw the wonderful things he did...they were furious.
[Matthew 21:12]


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on May 4th, 2012 at 12:43pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by bludger on May 6th, 2012 at 8:25pm
And here lies the problem.
The koran and bible bash you on the head with the wrath of god.
Here is this creator of the whole universe and god knows what else watching everyone on this tiny planet and instilling fear through men with a hearing problem.
If he made us he is 100% responsible for our actions and must accept full responsibility and of he can't do that he should piss off and leave us alone.
Do you really believe this claptrap?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on May 27th, 2012 at 12:53pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 12:20pm:
you are scum and you deserve the death penalty for your crimes against humanity or at least life in prison.

Israel is a scum terrorist state and deserves to be wiped off the map after the non terrorist citizens have been relocated

You would make threats wouldnt you because you cant defend yourself with words pussy


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 27th, 2012 at 2:37pm

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 12:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime

What don't you people understand about the word 'if'?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by adamant on May 27th, 2012 at 3:35pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 12:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime

What don't you people understand about the word 'if'?


Hey Muppet

If I said, If you are a a racist moron? Would it be true. That's IF I said it of course!

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by PoliticalPuppet on May 27th, 2012 at 3:39pm

Adamant wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 12:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime

What don't you people understand about the word 'if'?


Hey Muppet

If I said, If you are a a racist moron? Would it be true. That's IF I said it of course!

If terrorists are a race then I am racist.
If I said you are ignorant would I be a moron because you have already proved it by not being able to debunk my claims so you instead make insults

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on May 27th, 2012 at 4:54pm
Last two Afghan Jews fighting each other

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4fx6BjWEqk

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on May 27th, 2012 at 7:41pm

Adamant wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 12:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime

What don't you people understand about the word 'if'?


Hey Muppet

If I said, If you are a a racist moron? Would it be true. That's IF I said it of course!


He is. He has been banned twice for it.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on May 27th, 2012 at 7:52pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:39pm:
If I said you are ignorant would I be a moron because you have already proved it by not being able to debunk my claims so you instead make insults

No.
You are a moron. No ifs.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by adamant on May 27th, 2012 at 8:20pm

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:39pm:

Adamant wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 3:35pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2012 at 12:43pm:

bobbythefap1 wrote on Mar 5th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
If being jewish means you support Israel and its slaughter of innocent people then bugger the jews I hope they get the hollocaust again and they deserved it lasttime

What don't you people understand about the word 'if'?


Hey Muppet

If I said, If you are a a racist moron? Would it be true. That's IF I said it of course!

If terrorists are a race then I am racist.
If I said you are ignorant would I be a moron because you have already proved it by not being able to debunk my claims so you instead make insults

Hey Muppet I did say IF. You understand "IF" don't you?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on May 28th, 2012 at 12:21pm

falah wrote on May 27th, 2012 at 4:54pm:
Last two Afghan Jews fighting each other

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4fx6BjWEqk



When Isaac the Jew says "clients" he means the people who he dupes with his sorcery:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVCDLsqKyA

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 1:53pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 1:10pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 12:15pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 12:14pm:

brumbie wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 8:44am:
What part of the world did Jews originally come from?


Where they lived thousands of years ago is Irrelevant.

My ancestors in Germany 2000 years ago, doesn't mean I have a right to go and boot German families from their homes and make it my own... does it?


What do you think should be done with Israeli Jews?


Go back to their countries of origin, although those who seek asylum, and are cleared of crimes against the Palestinian people should be granted asylum.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 2:11pm
Considering the fact that the Muslims are firing rockets into Israel indiscriminately, I don't think they ill suddenly fin any jews who have 'not committed crimes against the Muslims'.

Let' be clear about that - it's not about the 'Palestinians', it's about Islam and Muslims.  You Islamists were massacring the East Timorese when they wanted to break away from indonesia. You don't give a sh!t about national liberation, ll you care about is 'Muslim lands'. That's why the "Palestinians' have ben refugees among their fellow Muslims for decades. It is easier for a 'Palestinian' to become a British subject in Australia, England or Canada than to become a Jordanian or Saudi one.
It is about Muslim claim to territory, not about people. It's about your pain and suffering in the face of Jews, of all people, in previously Islmic territory.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 2:28pm
If it was about muslims then other muslims would be attacking israel instead of worrying about their own crap.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:02pm
Muslims are unorganised packs of dogs.
This is why they never win.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:07pm
They think fighting is to send teen boys to throw rocks at tanks!

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:30pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:07pm:
They think fighting is to send teen boys to throw rocks at tanks!


What else can they do? Why are the tanks there?

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:46pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:30pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:07pm:
They think fighting is to send teen boys to throw rocks at tanks!


What else can they do? Why are the tanks there?

SOB


Because we were attacked in 1967

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:51pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:30pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:07pm:
They think fighting is to send teen boys to throw rocks at tanks!


What else can they do? Why are the tanks there?

SOB


Because we were attacked in 1967


So. You reckon you were attacked in 1967 so NOW you go in with tanks? You sont see a problem with this?

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:07pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:51pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:30pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:07pm:
They think fighting is to send teen boys to throw rocks at tanks!


What else can they do? Why are the tanks there?

SOB


Because we were attacked in 1967


So. You reckon you were attacked in 1967 so NOW you go in with tanks? You sont see a problem with this?

SOB


The tanks are there to keep order.
Israel is there because Jordan attacked us.

No attack no tanks.

Only idiot Arabs would not understand this!

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:08pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:51pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:30pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:07pm:
They think fighting is to send teen boys to throw rocks at tanks!


What else can they do? Why are the tanks there?

SOB


Because we were attacked in 1967


So. You reckon you were attacked in 1967 so NOW you go in with tanks? You sont see a problem with this?

SOB


The tanks are there to keep order.
Israel is there because Jordan attacked us.

No attack no tanks.

Only idiot Arabs would not understand this!

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:17pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:08pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:51pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:30pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:07pm:
They think fighting is to send teen boys to throw rocks at tanks!


What else can they do? Why are the tanks there?

SOB


Because we were attacked in 1967


So. You reckon you were attacked in 1967 so NOW you go in with tanks? You sont see a problem with this?

SOB


The tanks are there to keep order.
Israel is there because Jordan attacked us.

No attack no tanks.

Only idiot Arabs would not understand this!


How many years ago was this? 1968? WTF? Get rid of the friggin tanks. Let them live in peace.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:41pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:17pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:08pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:51pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:30pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:07pm:
They think fighting is to send teen boys to throw rocks at tanks!


What else can they do? Why are the tanks there?

SOB


Because we were attacked in 1967


So. You reckon you were attacked in 1967 so NOW you go in with tanks? You sont see a problem with this?

SOB


The tanks are there to keep order.
Israel is there because Jordan attacked us.

No attack no tanks.

Only idiot Arabs would not understand this!


How many years ago was this? 1968? WTF? Get rid of the friggin tanks. Let them live in peace.

SOB



they can live in peace. The tanks are not in the Palestinians controlled zones.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:51pm

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:41pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:17pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 5:08pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:51pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:46pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:30pm:

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 4:07pm:
They think fighting is to send teen boys to throw rocks at tanks!


What else can they do? Why are the tanks there?

SOB


Because we were attacked in 1967


So. You reckon you were attacked in 1967 so NOW you go in with tanks? You sont see a problem with this?

SOB


The tanks are there to keep order.
Israel is there because Jordan attacked us.

No attack no tanks.

Only idiot Arabs would not understand this!


How many years ago was this? 1968? WTF? Get rid of the friggin tanks. Let them live in peace.

SOB



they can live in peace. The tanks are not in the Palestinians controlled zones.


Are the tanks in west bank?

You know  why they hate you? You know why they are angry? Do you?

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 6:11pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 2:28pm:
If it was about muslims then other muslims would be attacking israel instead of worrying about their own crap.

SOB


Yes Borg, that is what they did, repeatedly. That is what Abu and Falah are suggesting they will do again - only this time the Muslims will have a glorious victory, of course. The only reason it is not still ongoing is that cooler heads prevailed in most of the neighbouring countries and they realised that loosing wars to Israel over and over again is a pretty silly thing to do.

For the Palestinians of course, the thought of Jews not being second class citizens is too much of an insult to bear, and they are too disaorganised for the cooler heads to prevail, so they have been lobbing rockets since before many were born, and complaining about how unfair the consequences are.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 6:34pm

freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 6:11pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 2:28pm:
If it was about muslims then other muslims would be attacking israel instead of worrying about their own crap.

SOB


Yes Borg, that is what they did, repeatedly. That is what Abu and Falah are suggesting they will do again - only this time the Muslims will have a glorious victory, of course. The only reason it is not still ongoing is that cooler heads prevailed in most of the neighbouring countries and they realised that loosing wars to Israel over and over again is a pretty silly thing to do.

For the Palestinians of course, the thought of Jews not being second class citizens is too much of an insult to bear, and they are too disaorganised for the cooler heads to prevail, so they have been lobbing rockets since before many were born, and complaining about how unfair the consequences are.


What are you talking about? There are millions of muslims in the world. They are not on some crusade to get the paranoid jews. In fact most of them arent even after "the west" as the propaganda would have us believe. The only ones that want to get rid of israel are the ones that are being oppressed and killed and bullied by israel.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 6:45pm

Quote:
What are you talking about? There are millions of muslims in the world. They are not on some crusade to get the paranoid jews.


Abu and Falah are, and they are about as disconnected from the issue as you can possibly get - except of course for them being Muslim. The parallels with nazism are ominous.

And millions of those Muslims did attack Israel and are very bitter that they lost.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 6:54pm

freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 6:45pm:

Quote:
What are you talking about? There are millions of muslims in the world. They are not on some crusade to get the paranoid jews.


Abu and Falah are, and they are about as disconnected from the issue as you can possibly get - except of course for them being Muslim. The parallels with nazism are ominous.

And millions of those Muslims did attack Israel and are very bitter that they lost.


lol. Millions huh?

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 7:08pm
Egypt alone has over 80 million people.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jun 4th, 2012 at 2:40am

freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 6:45pm:

Quote:
What are you talking about? There are millions of muslims in the world. They are not on some crusade to get the paranoid jews.


Abu and Falah are, and they are about as disconnected from the issue as you can possibly get - except of course for them being Muslim. The parallels with nazism are ominous.

And millions of those Muslims did attack Israel and are very bitter that they lost.



More lies Freeliar? You just can't help yourself.

Strange how you will lie so much to defend Jews and attack Muslims. Seems like there is a hidden agenda on this forum.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 7:11am
Whatever excuses you make up israel is a terrorist state.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 4th, 2012 at 8:08am
What lies?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:08am

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 7:11am:

Whatever excuses you make up israel is a terrorist state.


SOB



Self defence, defending yourself when attacked, is not 'terrorism'.

Except from the point of view of a moslem.





Quote:
'AGGRESSION IS SOMETHING ONLY INFIDELS DO'

[quote]

"......[resorting] to force to disseminate Islam is not war (harb), a word that is used only to describe the use of force by non-Muslims. Islamic wars are not hurub (the plural of harb) but rather futuhat, acts of "opening" the world to Islam and expressing Islamic jihad. Relations between dar al-Islam, the home of peace, and dar al-harb, the world of unbelievers, nevertheless take place in a state of war, according to the Qur'an and to the authoritative commentaries of Islamic jurists. Unbelievers who stand in the way, CREATING OBSTACLES FOR THE DA'WA, ARE BLAMED FOR THIS STATE OF WAR, for the da'wa can be pursued peacefully if others submit to it.

IN OTHER WORDS, THOSE WHO RESIST ISLAM CAUSE WARS and are responsible for them.

.....Aggression is something only infidels do.

.....it is not seen as aggression or war when Muslims attack non-Muslims.

On the contrary, it is seen as aggression when non-Muslims resist the Islamization of their lands and thus "place obstacles in the way" of the spread of Islam. They are defying the will of Allah.......subjugation to Islam alone can bring peace.....
......[To the ISLAMIST mind, 'aggression' is...] When non-Muslims do anything to preserve their culture and resist the Islamization of their country."

"ISLAM SEEKS PEACE - Oh really!"
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1258072652/1#1


n.b.
"......[resorting] to force to disseminate Islam is not war (harb), a word that is used only to describe the use of force by non-Muslims. Islamic wars are not hurub (the plural of harb) but rather futuhat, acts of "opening"

[/quote]





Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:23am

Yadda wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:08am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 7:11am:

Whatever excuses you make up israel is a terrorist state.


SOB



Self defence, defending yourself when attacked, is not 'terrorism'.

Except from the point of view of a moslem.



SOB,

Why don't you 'come out' and declare what interest you have in ISLAM ?

You seem to defend ISLAMIC 'principles' constantly on this forum.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:29am

Quote:
Self defence, defending yourself when attacked, is not 'terrorism'.


so finally you admit the palestinians are not terrorists?


Quote:
You seem to defend ISLAMIC 'principles' constantly on this forum.


Quote and link to where I have defended any religious principles.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:12pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:29am:

Quote:
Self defence, defending yourself when attacked, is not 'terrorism'.


so finally you admit the palestinians are not terrorists?


Do i ???


SOB,
I think that you are misrepresenting me.




SOB, is this a terrorist? , or is this a 'freedom fighter' 'defending' his people and homeland ?.....
IMAGE





What about these people SOB ???
Are these people oppressors, and 'terrorists' ???

Isn't this AN ACT OF TERRORISM ???.....

IMAGE...





"Moderate" Palestinian Authority TV: Palestinian children created to fertilize the land with their blood
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/02/moderate-palestinian-authority-tv-palestinian-children-created-to-fertilize-the-land-with-their-bloo.htmli

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:29am:

Quote:
You seem to defend ISLAMIC 'principles' constantly on this forum.


Quote and link to where I have defended any religious principles.


SOB


You are defending the religious right of moslems to attack the state of Israel, and the Jewish people.

See above, and below.
i.e.
You seem to propose that moslems have the right to 'defend' themselves, by making 'legitimate' attacks upon the state of Israel, and the Jewish people.



The Koran.....

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:17pm

Quote:
Quote and link to where I have defended any religious principles.


Borg, Islam equates religion and politics. The destruction of all non-Islamic governments on land that was previously 'owned' by Islam (and therefore still is according to Islam) is a religious imperative. This counts especially for Jews.

So when you accuse Jews like Avram of wanting to expel the palestinians from palestine, when in fact he says the opposite, and defend Muslims like Abu and Falah, who actually say they want to expel the Jews from Israel, it is hard to interpret what you say as anything but Islamic propaganda, or neo nazi propaganda, or similar.

Perhaps you are just confusing the incompetence and impotence of militant Islam with benign intentions.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:23pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 11:23am:

SOB,

Why don't you 'come out' and declare what interest you have in ISLAM ?

You seem to defend ISLAMIC 'principles' constantly on this forum.





SOB,

Why don't you 'come out' and declare what interest you have in ISLAM ?




Yadda,   .......still waiting for a declaration of what interest SOB has in ISLAM.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:36pm

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I think that you are misrepresenting me.


If you dont want me to do it to you then dont do it to me.

My point though is that (as usual) they are defending themselves. If the jews go into their land and destroy their crops and wells and roads and bulldoze their homes and kill ppl then they are understandably angry.

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Well since i dont know what they are or where they were taken or anything about them I cant say what they are. that one with the kid looks like its bombs but if it was those ppl wouldn't be standing around him calmly so obviously not.


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You are defending the religious right of moslems to attack the state of Israel, and the Jewish people.


You see? you are intentionally misrepresenting me. You do it to me and I do it back to you. Simple. What I am defending is their right to defend themselves against a bigger meaner aggressor and bully. And by "their" I mean the palestinians not any muslim. you see I bet out of 5million ppl that not ALL those ppl are muslims. I bet some are hindu or even xtian.

West bank is not the state of israel. The jewish ppl that get attacked are prolly in palestinian area. Oh and lets not forget all those "prisoners" being held without trial in israel.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:47pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:36pm:

......What I am defending is their ['Palestinians'] right to defend themselves.....



SOB




SOB,

You are unbelievably naive, and lacking in good judgement, imo.






Google;
taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit





Google;
palestinian lies media watch

Google;
al dura hoax

Google;
pallywood


Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish it through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible..., and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory. ...One should compare the bad consequences entailed by lying to those entailed by telling the truth, and if the consequences of telling the truth are more damaging, one is entitled to lie…”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiyya



How Taqiyya Alters Islams Rules of War
http://www.meforum.org/2538/taqiyya-islam-rules-of-war



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:53pm
Well none of that negates the fact that they are being oppressed by a bully and are defending themselves.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:09pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 12:53pm:
Well none of that negates the fact that they are being oppressed by a bully and are defending themselves.

SOB



SOB,

Have you ever condemned moslems on this forum, for murdering Christians, and for the abduction of young non-moslem women off streets by moslems, in moslem majority nations ?


http://www.jihadwatch.org/muslim-persecution-of-christians/


Moslems don't appear on your 'radar' SOB, as oppressors ???



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:28pm
Not palestinians. Also I am pretty sure some of the palestinians arent even muslims as i said before.

This thread seems to be about jews.

Believe it or not I actually know a jew who is nothing like avram. He knows that israel is wrong to be doing what its doing.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:41pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:28pm:
Not palestinians.

Also I am pretty sure some of the palestinians arent even muslims as i said before.


SOB



Yes, i know.

I know too, that if 'Palestinian' Christians do not 'suck it up' [moslem oppression of Christians], the Christians are often murdered.




Google;
site:http://www.jihadwatch.org/ hamas christians gaza


Google;
hamas threats, christians persecuted in gaza




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:53pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:28pm:

This thread seems to be about jews.


SOB




Yes.

But should it be called;   Moslems are 'parasites' ???


SOB,

You are happy to attack and condemn Jews.

But i have noticed that people like yourself, express no criticism of the conduct of moslems - whether they are 'Palestinians' or non-'Palestinians'.

Why so ?



SOB,

Are moslems only ever the victims of 'oppression' ?

It would seem so, from teh public stance of people such as yourself.








Quote:
Anti-Christian 'Cleansing' Campaign Picks Up Pace in Gaza

Islamic Tolerance Alert. By Gil Ronen for Israel National News, June 4 (thanks to all who sent this in):

    (IsraelNN.com) Attacks on Christian targets and those identified with Western culture have grown more frequent in Gaza in the past two years, and especially since the Hamas takeover in June 2007, experts say. The targets have included churches, Christian and United Nations schools, the American International School, libraries and Internet cafes.

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/06/anti-christian-cleansing-campaign-picks-up-pace-in-gaza.html

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:59pm
You are trying to move the goalpost here. I have said many times I dont like ANY religions. Israel and the palestinians is a special case though especially since the jews are a religion but the palestinians are not ALL muslims. You cant deflect the topic by attacking me with muslim crap. This is about religion for the jews but its about land and self defense for the palestinians.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 2:07pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:59pm:
You are trying to move the goalpost here. I have said many times I dont like ANY religions. Israel and the palestinians is a special case though especially since the jews are a religion but the palestinians are not ALL muslims. You cant deflect the topic by attacking me with muslim crap.

This is about religion for the jews but its about land and self defense for the palestinians.

SOB



That is what moslems want us all to believe, but it is a moslem lie.

The conflict between Israel, the Jewish people, and the 'Palestinians', is >> ALL << about ISLAM, and about ISLAM's claims upon the land, and about ISLAM's claims upon the souls of all people who live under ISLAM's authority.

If you believe otherwise, then you have been duped by ISLAMIST propaganda and lies.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 2:45pm
That is what you say. They are defending themselves though it is obvious from what I see and from what avram tells me.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 2:46pm
Afghanistan: Islamic supremacists poison 97 more girls for the crime of going to school



Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 1:28pm:

Not palestinians.

SOB






Afghanistan: Islamic supremacists poison 97 more girls for the crime of going to school

Another story you will never see on the ABC TV news tonight.


But there is no moral condemnation, because the victims are;    ...."Not palestinians."

And because we should only condemn perceived Jewish wrongdoing.

And we should make no comment about wrongdoing by moslems,
........coz moslem violence is only ever connected with moslems 'defending' themselves and ISLAM.
/sarc off

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 2:49pm
Afghanistan is not palestine.

The jews hate the muslims. I get that. The palestinians hate israel I get that too. Dont blame them though.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:03pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 2:49pm:
Afghanistan is not palestine.

The jews hate the muslims. I get that.

The palestinians hate israel I get that too. Dont blame them though.

SOB



That is clear.

It is clear where, and with whom, your sympathies lay.

God forgive you, because i would not.

If it was within my power, i would exile you [and others like you], to live in an ISLAMIC paradise,
....with your true friends.

Fair do's.



Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:23pm

Yadda wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:03pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 2:49pm:
Afghanistan is not palestine.

The jews hate the muslims. I get that.

The palestinians hate israel I get that too. Dont blame them though.

SOB



That is clear.

It is clear where, and with whom, your sympathies lay.

God forgive you, because i would not.

If it was within my power, i would exile you [and others like you], to live in an ISLAMIC paradise,
....with your true friends.

Fair do's.



The palestinians are being oppressed and bullied by israel. Is it because you see them as muslim? Why would you want me to live in Gaza? So you can oppress me too?

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:32pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:23pm:

Yadda wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:03pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 2:49pm:
Afghanistan is not palestine.

The jews hate the muslims. I get that.

The palestinians hate israel I get that too. Dont blame them though.

SOB



That is clear.

It is clear where, and with whom, your sympathies lay.

God forgive you, because i would not.

If it was within my power, i would exile you [and others like you], to live in an ISLAMIC paradise,
....with your true friends.

Fair do's.



The palestinians are being oppressed and bullied by israel. Is it because you see them as muslim?

Why would you want me to live in Gaza? So you can oppress me too?

SOB



LOL

I explained why.

So that you could be with your true friends.


If i compel you to live with like minded souls, is that 'oppression' ?


SOB,

I thought that you would be happy to share their 'pain', with them ?

Correct ?

Perhaps your 'Palestinian' friends could convince you to become a suicide bomber ???

And you would like that, wouldn't you ???

i.e.
Doing 'good works' for your friends.
/sarc off




Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:36pm
Ahhh. You really dont like what im saying do you. Is it making too much sense?

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:40pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:36pm:
Ahhh. You really dont like what im saying do you. Is it making too much sense?

SOB



No sense, at all.

But if you want to live that way, and if you want to think that way, then go ahead.

Choose your friends carefully.

Because they are, the 'creatures' who you will live with.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:43pm
I doubt the palestinians will be coming here. I doubt they are going anywhere unless something is done about israel. Lets hope something is done about israel soon.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:57pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 3:43pm:
I doubt the palestinians will be coming here. I doubt they are going anywhere unless something is done about israel.

Lets hope something is done about israel soon.

SOB


Yes;

"Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance."





If my God is true, then something is going to 'be done',   ......about the 'Palestinians'.

Psalms 83

Ezek 35


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 4th, 2012 at 4:04pm

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"Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance."


You want to be rid of them entirely? Wow. I only wanted them to be stopped from doing atrocities. You really are radical to want them gone entirely.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 4th, 2012 at 5:47pm
Borg, if you look at what people have been actually saying, your views on this issue (or at least what you say they are) are fairly close to those of Avram, and very different from those of Abu and Falah, yet you also claim to mostly agree with Abu and Falah and criticise Avram constantly. Your preconceived notion of which country is 'bigger and meaner' is blinding you to what people on this forum actually say, who over there is causing the problems, and who is actually acting in self defense. You attribute any Palestinian action, no matter how absurd, disconnected, or immediately self destructive, to self defense, and apply a completely different standard to Israel. You are either deliberately parroting empty headed Islamic propaganda or are a victim of it.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jun 4th, 2012 at 8:39pm

freediver wrote on Jun 4th, 2012 at 5:47pm:
Borg, if you look at what people have been actually saying, your views on this issue (or at least what you say they are) are fairly close to those of Avram, and very different from those of Abu and Falah, yet you also claim to mostly agree with Abu and Falah and criticise Avram constantly. Your preconceived notion of which country is 'bigger and meaner' is blinding you to what people on this forum actually say, who over there is causing the problems, and who is actually acting in self defense. You attribute any Palestinian action, no matter how absurd, disconnected, or immediately self destructive, to self defense, and apply a completely different standard to Israel. You are either deliberately parroting empty headed Islamic propaganda or are a victim of it.



Palestine did not invade Israel. Isrealis are victims only of their own greed.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 4th, 2012 at 9:47pm

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Isrealis are victims only of their own greed.


The Israelis are the victims? If you are happy with that then I guess no-one has anything to complain about.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 5th, 2012 at 7:01am

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Because they are, the 'creatures' who you will live with.


Not human then? So it was you. I couldnt remember who it was that called them "things".


Quote:
and criticise Avram constantly.


No. I havent criticised him constantly. I have made several comments about the apartment buildings and I have asked him if he feels anything about it. He hasnt answered many of my questions. I have criticised israel constantly. I have pointed out that I understand he was conscripted but I do not understand his attitude and it shouldn't be allowed in australia (the attitude). I have mostly said this when I am ASKED about it.


Quote:
Your preconceived notion


Preconceived? And where did I develop this preconception? From questioning avram perhaps? That doesnt make it preconceived btw. you may need a dictionary. In your quest for dog whistles you have chosen badly.


Quote:
is blinding you to what people on this forum actually say, who over there is causing the problems, and who is actually acting in self defense.


Thats just complete bullshit. I see what you and avram and yadda are saying perfectly but you cant see what anyone else is saying. Perhaps a lil projecting going on hey? Soren on the other hand doesnt make any points she just tries lamely to throw insults.


Quote:
You attribute any Palestinian action, no matter how absurd, disconnected, or immediately self destructive, to self defence, and apply a completely different standard to Israel.


Thats just dishonest saying that. I have been asking why these actions happen. Why would a sniper be in an apartment in gaza - well because israeli army are there where they shouldn't be of course. the bulldozing of rachel corrie was the other thing. Also stupid - anywhere else in the world that would be murder.


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You are either deliberately parroting empty headed Islamic propaganda or are a victim of it.


That is a lie. You prolly know it too and are trying to piss me off because you disagree with me. Its weird though how rationality goes out the window where israel is concerned for religious ppl. I havent heard any islamic propaganda and as i pointed out to you before i usually stay away form the islam area of the forum.


Quote:
The Israelis are the victims? If you are happy with that then I guess no-one has anything to complain about.


Just as long as they are victims? Thats all that matters? That is why they bring up the "holocaust" all the time? So they can be "victims"?

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 5th, 2012 at 8:13pm

Quote:
No. I havent criticised him constantly. I have made several comments about the apartment buildings and I have asked him if he feels anything about it. He hasnt answered many of my questions. I have criticised israel constantly. I have pointed out that I understand he was conscripted but I do not understand his attitude and it shouldn't be allowed in australia (the attitude). I have mostly said this when I am ASKED about it.


Didn't you assert that he should be considered guilty based on his attitude alone?


Quote:
Preconceived? And where did I develop this preconception? From questioning avram perhaps? That doesnt make it preconceived btw. you may need a dictionary. In your quest for dog whistles you have chosen badly.


Obviously it was not from questioning Avram, because what Avram actually said, and what you claimed he said, are pretty much complete opposites. Like i said, your views are far closer to his than either of the two Muslims here you claim to agree with.


Quote:
Thats just complete bullshit. I see what you and avram and yadda are saying perfectly


But you don't. that is the point.


Quote:
Thats just dishonest saying that. I have been asking why these actions happen.


No you haven't. You have been constantly and unquestioningly assigning them to self defense while refusing to consider any rational way of determining what is self defense.


Quote:
That is a lie. You prolly know it too and are trying to piss me off because you disagree with me.


It is not a lie. You are actually parroting empty headed anti Israel propaganda, like unquestioningly assigning the idiotic and immediately self destructive actions of palestinians to self defense.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 6th, 2012 at 8:07am

Quote:
Didn't you assert that he should be considered guilty based on his attitude alone?


The only way you can "prove" that is by quoting me out of context. This is dishonest freediver. you should be ashamed but you have no sense of right and wrong do you. you know full well I did not say he should be considered "guilty" based on his attitude alone. I said his attitude is dangerous.


Quote:
Obviously it was not from questioning Avram, because what Avram actually said, and what you claimed he said, are pretty much complete opposites. Like i said, your views are far closer to his than either of the two Muslims here you claim to agree with.


Still trying to misrepresent me I see but this time its from your lack of eyesight on this matter. What avram told me was that he approved of the actions taken on rachel corrie and the apartment blocks. these actions were uncalled for and out of proportion and wrong but you cant see that.


Quote:
But you don't. that is the point.


Oh but I do however i do not agree with you.


Quote:
No you haven't. You have been constantly and unquestioningly assigning them to self defense while refusing to consider any rational way of determining what is self defense.


you are projecting here. No way that running over rachel corrie was self defence. the apartment buildings werent either since the israeli soldiers shouldnt have been there.


Quote:
It is not a lie. You are actually parroting empty headed anti Israel propaganda, like unquestioningly assigning the idiotic and immediately self destructive actions of palestinians to self defense.


Dont remember what that was but if i said you were lying you prolly were.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 6th, 2012 at 7:40pm
"How Islam Saved The Jews..."  ;D From Falah:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338909288


Quote:
The only way you can "prove" that is by quoting me out of context. This is dishonest freediver. you should be ashamed but you have no sense of right and wrong do you. you know full well I did not say he should be considered "guilty" based on his attitude alone. I said his attitude is dangerous.



Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 28th, 2012 at 6:59pm:
Like I said most. I dont know that avram deserves death penalty since he seems to be mislead. He shouldn't be among innocent ppl though with the israeli attitude he has.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 7th, 2012 at 6:53pm

falah wrote on Jun 7th, 2012 at 4:35pm:
The European Jew invaders are just land thieves.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jun 8th, 2012 at 8:30am

freediver wrote on Jun 7th, 2012 at 6:53pm:

falah wrote on Jun 7th, 2012 at 4:35pm:
The European Jew invaders are just land thieves.


Freeliar did the Eurtopean steal the land from the palestinians or not?

Perhaps it is more appropriate to call it robbery than theft.

Fine, from now on i will refer to them more accurately as "European Jew land robbers".


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Jun 8th, 2012 at 8:39am

falah wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 8:30am:

freediver wrote on Jun 7th, 2012 at 6:53pm:

falah wrote on Jun 7th, 2012 at 4:35pm:
The European Jew invaders are just land thieves.


Freeliar did the Eurtopean steal the land from the palestinians or not?

Perhaps it is more appropriate to call it robbery than theft.

Fine, from now on i will refer to them more accurately as "European Jew land robbers".



No no no no no, you've forgotten - the Jews liberated Palestine, like the Muslims liberated it from the Byzantines before.

Remember?


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 8th, 2012 at 12:53pm
I don't think it counts as liberation unless you tax them and take care of their womenfolk for them.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 8th, 2012 at 1:12pm

freediver wrote on Jun 6th, 2012 at 7:40pm:
"How Islam Saved The Jews..."  ;D From Falah:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1338909288


Quote:
The only way you can "prove" that is by quoting me out of context. This is dishonest freediver. you should be ashamed but you have no sense of right and wrong do you. you know full well I did not say he should be considered "guilty" based on his attitude alone. I said his attitude is dangerous.



Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 28th, 2012 at 6:59pm:
Like I said most. I dont know that avram deserves death penalty since he seems to be mislead. He shouldn't be among innocent ppl though with the israeli attitude he has.


Like I said dangerous attitude.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:02pm
Does his attitude make him guilty?

What about the people you claim to agree with, who are demanding a mass forced migration of Jews?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:10pm

freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:02pm:
Does his attitude make him guilty?

What about the people you claim to agree with, who are demanding a mass forced migration of Jews?


He is guilty of having a dangerous attitude

I know you are insinuating something with that other question but am not sure what, The jews should get out of west bank and stop building new settlements and leave the palestinians alone.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:23pm
You claim Avram's attitude is dangerous and makes him 'guilty', even though he supports a two state solution and a restrained military response (often no response) to Palestinians who are violent towards Israelis.

At the same time you claim to 'mostly agree with' Abu and Falah. When they talk about the Jews leaving, they don't just mean from the west bank back into Israel. They mean from Israel back into Europe - even the ones born in Israel who know nothing of Europe and whose ancestors have lived in the area for as long as they can remember.

Of course, you also claim not to have read what they posted - which raises the obvious question - why would you claim to mostly agree with them, if not out of some automated, prejudicial bias?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:31pm

Quote:
You claim Avram's attitude is dangerous and makes him 'guilty', even though he supports a two state solution and a restrained military response (often no response) to Palestinians who are violent towards Israelis.


No. You manipulated me into saying that. I said he has a dangerous attitude. You kept going on about "guilty" so i said it to see why you wanted me to say it. He is guilty of having a dangerous attitude but in the way that i said when i said it not the way that you want it to be. You make accusations based on things i said elsewhere you can just go get the conversations and read them in context. You know what i said you arent stupid as you make out.


Quote:
At the same time you claim to 'mostly agree with' Abu and Falah.


Out of context again. I never said that in that context. If i ever said it @ all that is.


Quote:
mean from Israel back into Europe


Why do you want the jews to go back to europe?


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claim to mostly agree with them


Oh! Now we have it! So you do mostly agree with them! I thought so!

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:46pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:10pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 6:02pm:
Does his attitude make him guilty?

What about the people you claim to agree with, who are demanding a mass forced migration of Jews?


He is guilty of having a dangerous attitude

I know you are insinuating something with that other question but am not sure what...

SOB


;D ;D
That's it, that's you summed up, again, big girl's blouse: "I don't understand but I know I disagree 'coz your attitude is not nice and that's very dangerous, having an attitude I don't have. SOB'


.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 8th, 2012 at 7:29pm
how did you ever figger out how to even get on the internet?

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Soren on Jun 8th, 2012 at 7:30pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 7:29pm:
how did you ever figger out how to even get on the internet?

SOB


;D
There you go, mystified as always!

Mysty - that shall be your name henceforth!

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 8th, 2012 at 9:12pm

Quote:
No. You manipulated me into saying that. I said he has a dangerous attitude.


One more time spot. This is what you said. I did not trick you into it.


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 28th, 2012 at 6:59pm:
Like I said most. I dont know that avram deserves death penalty since he seems to be mislead. He shouldn't be among innocent ppl though with the israeli attitude he has.



Quote:
You kept going on about "guilty" so i said it to see why you wanted me to say it.


This makes no sense Spot. Check the thread. I did not use the term in the entire page or the previous page.


Quote:
He is guilty of having a dangerous attitude but in the way that i said when i said it not the way that you want it to be. You make accusations based on things i said elsewhere you can just go get the conversations and read them in context.


I did. You accused me of 'going on about guilty' but it is simply not there.


Quote:
Out of context again. I never said that in that context. If i ever said it @ all that is.


Ah yes, another example of Spot's classic "I don't know, therefore I am right" argument. You have made the claim at least twice now, in this context.


Quote:
Why do you want the jews to go back to europe?


Listen closely Spot. Abu and Falah - the people you claim to agree with and who you automatically defend - want to do this. You are impervious to the facts and subjugate everything to your prejudice.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 9th, 2012 at 7:04am

Quote:
One more time spot. This is what you said. I did not trick you into it.


yeah change 1 lil word to change the meaning. In reallife you are prolly a sniveller. You prolly dont have the guts to do any of this crap you do in your internet bravado. If I am wrong and you do then you must get beat up a lot.


Quote:
Ah yes, another example of Spot's classic "I don't know, therefore I am right" argument. You have made the claim at least twice now, in this context.


Prove it


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Listen closely Spot. Abu and Falah - the people you claim to agree with and who you automatically defend - want to do this. You are impervious to the facts and subjugate everything to your prejudice.

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you know i didnt make any of those claims. You are a liar and prolly a chook in real life. You try to compensate by trying to bully ppl online using misquoting and slander.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 9th, 2012 at 8:38am

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yeah change 1 lil word to change the meaning.


Are you accusing me of editing your words?


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You prolly dont have the guts to do any of this crap you do in your internet bravado.


You mean, talk?


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If I am wrong and you do then you must get beat up a lot.


Not true. I come across a lot more lunatics online. Plus, being able to quote people seems to make certain people a lot angrier. It just doesn't work the same way when you are talking to people.


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Prove it


It is worse than I thought. Here is you claiming to mostly agree with puppet after he suggested Avram should go to the gas chambers along with 90% of Israel's adult population. And I thought it was just the forced mass migration you 'mostly' agreed with. Tell me Spot, why is it that apologists for Islam are always so keen to overlook the calls for mass murder?


Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 28th, 2012 at 1:10pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on May 28th, 2012 at 1:02pm:
Yeah there's several others.

Quite why you'd defend such a foul mouthed, anti-semitic pr+ck who makes jokes about the holocaust is beyond me.

We can do without c+ckheads like that on here.


Because a) I mostly agree with him and b) i am a supporter of free speech

Why should the muslims be trashed and not the jews? Why should they get special treatment? Israel is a terrorist regime.

What do you make jokes about? Hmmm? As if you would honestly tell us here. Ragheads? Ohhhh you are american arent you - you make obama jokes and maybe zimmerman jokes right?

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 9th, 2012 at 8:42am
You are still doing it. in that discussion where I said i mostly agreed with him it was clarified in other posts int eh discussion. Continuity. context. Mostly agreeing with someone doesnt make everything they say my opinion. Liar.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:09am

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Mostly agreeing with someone doesnt make everything they say my opinion. Liar.


I see you have adopted Falah's strategy of accusing me of lying as a substitute for rational argument. What I accused you of was claiming that you mostly agree with him. For context and continuity, this was immediately after he called for Avram to get the gas chamber.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 9th, 2012 at 10:49am

freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 9:09am:

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Mostly agreeing with someone doesnt make everything they say my opinion. Liar.


I see you have adopted Falah's strategy of accusing me of lying as a substitute for rational argument. What I accused you of was claiming that you mostly agree with him. For context and continuity, this was immediately after he called for Avram to get the gas chamber.


No I am saying you are a liar because you quote me out of context and assign things to me that are wrong. You do this as a "strategy" rather than sticking to whatever the topic is. It is dishonest and you know it.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Avram Horowitz on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:13am
You did defend some one who demanded gas chambers.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by abu_rashid on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:32am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:13am:
You did defend some one who demanded gas chambers.


Avraham, wouldn't you like to put all Palestinians into gas chambers?

Bit rich for you to complain about people saying this about you, when you are quite happy to actually do it to another people, just so you can steal their land.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Spot of Borg on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:36am

Avram Horowitz wrote on Jun 9th, 2012 at 11:13am:
You did defend some one who demanded gas chambers.


So what? I can defend anyone who is being bullied. Eg palestinians.

you have to admit though gas chambers would be an ironic end to israels atrocities. Not that i support that in any way.

SOB

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 10th, 2012 at 9:34am
Falah comes up with another special Jew tax. The context is kicking all of the Israeli Jews out of Israel (back to Europe) and under what conditions some would be allowed to stay, or buy their way back in:


falah wrote on Jun 8th, 2012 at 11:37pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 7th, 2012 at 7:41pm:
I wonder if Abu and Falah could reciprocate this gesture without qualifying it as temporary or some other silly attempt at deception.


Jews are welcome to live in an Islamic state as long and they return stolen land and pay compensation for their crimes.


I wonder if "crimes against the Palestinian people" would cover every Israeli who has served in the military?


abu_rashid wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 1:10pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 3rd, 2012 at 12:15pm:
What do you think should be done with Israeli Jews?


Go back to their countries of origin, although those who seek asylum, and are cleared of crimes against the Palestinian people should be granted asylum.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jun 10th, 2012 at 9:57am

freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 9:34am:
Falah comes up with another special Jew tax.


Paying compensation for crimes is not a Jew tax Freeliar.

I believe compensation for crimes can be sought under Australian law. Is that a "Jew tax" too Freeliar?



freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 9:34am:
I wonder if "crimes against the Palestinian people" would cover every Israeli who has served in the military?


If an Israeli soldier has been identified as damaging life or property, why shouldn't compensation be paid.

Do you support the prosecution of Nazi war criminals Freeliar?


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am

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Paying compensation for crimes is not a Jew tax Freeliar.


Even if it only applies to Jews, and is not for actual crimes?


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I believe compensation for crimes can be sought under Australian law. Is that a "Jew tax" too Freeliar?


It would be if it only applied to Jews and was for crimes they did not actually commit themselves.


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If an Israeli soldier has been identified as damaging life or property, why shouldn't compensation be paid.


Because it was in self defence? Or because they were following orders? These should be familiar concepts to you. Western militaries often prosecute their own soldiers for actual crimes.


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Do you support the prosecution of Nazi war criminals Freeliar?


Sure, so long as it is based on actual crimes, rather than religion and collective punishment. For example, I support the prosecution of modern war criminals, including nazis. I do not see this as the same thing as Muhammed's collective punishment (slaughtering) of Jews. I do not see it as the same thing as yours and Abu's 'solution' for the Israel/Palestine conflict, which in reality would involve one war after another until you finally wipe out all the Jews, and probably most of the Palestinians as well.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 17th, 2012 at 8:12pm

abu_rashid wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 8:05pm:
The only regret is going to be the Zionists', for not learning their lesson during WWII


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jun 17th, 2012 at 9:47pm

freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:

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Paying compensation for crimes is not a Jew tax Freeliar.


Even if it only applies to Jews,


The ones who were invading and stealing land are the ones who should pay compensation.



freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:
and is not for actual crimes?


What do you consider to be an 'actual' crime Freeliar? Are Jews inacapable of committing crimes in your deluded mind?



freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:

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I believe compensation for crimes can be sought under Australian law. Is that a "Jew tax" too Freeliar?


It would be if it only applied to Jews and was for crimes they did not actually commit themselves.

All invading criminals can be pay compensation to the Palestinian, whatever religion they are.



freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:

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If an Israeli soldier has been identified as damaging life or property, why shouldn't compensation be paid.


Because it was in self defence? Or because they were following orders?


This excuse was accepted for Nazi war criminals. It should be an excuse for Zionist war criminals either.




freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:

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Do you support the prosecution of Nazi war criminals Freeliar?


Sure, so long as it is based on actual crimes, rather than religion and collective punishment. For example, I support the prosecution of modern war criminals, including nazis. I do not see this as the same thing as Muhammed's collective punishment (slaughtering) of Jews.


Can't help yourself from lying can you Freeliar? 99% of Jews living under the rule of Prophet Muhammed, peace & blessings of God upon him, were not punished for the crimes of a few. Tens of thousands of Jews that lived in the Islamic state were not punished. Those few warriors that were punished were directly involved in treacherously breaking treaties and fighting against the Islamic state.



freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:
I do not see it as the same thing as yours and Abu's 'solution' for the Israel/Palestine conflict, which in reality would involve one war after another until you finally wipe out all the Jews, and probably most of the Palestinians as well.


More lies Freeliar. I have never called for anybody to be wiped out. Is this all part of your paranoid Jewish psychology?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by adamant on Jun 17th, 2012 at 10:08pm

falah wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 9:57am:
Paying compensation for crimes is not a Jew tax Freeliar.I believe compensation for crimes can be sought under Australian law



Will the muslims now pay full restitution for the war crimes they have committed?

Yeah like their shiites don't stink.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Yadda on Jun 17th, 2012 at 10:45pm

Adamant wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 10:08pm:

falah wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 9:57am:
Paying compensation for crimes is not a Jew tax Freeliar.I believe compensation for crimes can be sought under Australian law



Will the muslims now pay full restitution for the war crimes they have committed?




adamant,

What war crimes ???

ISLAMIC law makes it 'lawful' for moslems to persecute, oppress, and to murder 'unbelievers'.

So moslems do not commit 'war crimes'.





ISLAM teaches every moslem from childhood, that 'unbelievers' ['those who reject Allah'] have no protection in their moslem society, and that the moslem duty, their obligation to ISLAM, their Jihad, is to destroy every un-ISLAMIC community [ the community which has given those moslems sanctuary], and to replace that society with ISLAM and its law of violence and oppression.


1/    "...Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." [i.e. 'Unbelief' [in man] is a crime.].
Koran 2.98
[ - - All of 'unbelieving' mankind, are the declared enemy of moslems.]


2/    "...those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47:8-11


3/    "...And why should ye not fight in the cause of Allah...Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah, and those who reject Faith Fight in the cause of Evil: So fight ye against the friends of Satan:...."
Koran 4.74-76


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 18th, 2012 at 8:23am

falah wrote on Jun 17th, 2012 at 9:47pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:

Quote:
Paying compensation for crimes is not a Jew tax Freeliar.


Even if it only applies to Jews,


The ones who were invading and stealing land are the ones who should pay compensation.



freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:
and is not for actual crimes?


What do you consider to be an 'actual' crime Freeliar? Are Jews inacapable of committing crimes in your deluded mind?



freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:
[quote]I believe compensation for crimes can be sought under Australian law. Is that a "Jew tax" too Freeliar?


It would be if it only applied to Jews and was for crimes they did not actually commit themselves.

All invading criminals can be pay compensation to the Palestinian, whatever religion they are.



freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:

Quote:
If an Israeli soldier has been identified as damaging life or property, why shouldn't compensation be paid.


Because it was in self defence? Or because they were following orders?


This excuse was accepted for Nazi war criminals. It should be an excuse for Zionist war criminals either.




freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:

Quote:
Do you support the prosecution of Nazi war criminals Freeliar?


Sure, so long as it is based on actual crimes, rather than religion and collective punishment. For example, I support the prosecution of modern war criminals, including nazis. I do not see this as the same thing as Muhammed's collective punishment (slaughtering) of Jews.


Can't help yourself from lying can you Freeliar? 99% of Jews living under the rule of Prophet Muhammed, peace & blessings of God upon him, were not punished for the crimes of a few. Tens of thousands of Jews that lived in the Islamic state were not punished. Those few warriors that were punished were directly involved in treacherously breaking treaties and fighting against the Islamic state.



freediver wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 10:26am:
I do not see it as the same thing as yours and Abu's 'solution' for the Israel/Palestine conflict, which in reality would involve one war after another until you finally wipe out all the Jews, and probably most of the Palestinians as well.


More lies Freeliar. I have never called for anybody to be wiped out. Is this all part of your paranoid Jewish psychology?
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Falah, you have previously attempted to excuse the collective punishment of an entire tribe of Jews over the molestation of a woman and a murder. If Israel applied the same standard every palestinian would be dead by now.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jun 18th, 2012 at 7:25pm

freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 8:23am:
Falah, you have previously attempted to excuse the collective punishment of an entire tribe of Jews over the molestation of a woman and a murder. If Israel applied the same standard every palestinian would be dead by now.


That is untrue Freeliar i have already explained that the right of the tribe to live as a sovereign entity in the Islamic state was revoked due to their breaking a peace treaty.

A large number of Jewish warriors from a tribe that had made a peace treaty with Muslims killed a Muslim in public. This was considered a break in the peace treaty with the tribe.

Individual Jews from that tribe were able to claim asylum, and many did. Only the tribes special status as 'a state allowed to live within the state' was revoked. Individual Jews from the tribe who were prepared to submit to the rule of the Islamic state and apply for asylum were allowed to stay within the Islamic state.

99% of Jews living in the Islamic state did not belong to this group that had broken the peace treaty, and their status under the Islamic state was not affected.

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by falah on Jun 19th, 2012 at 1:03am
How the Roshidoon Caliphate established old-age pension for Jews after Caliph Umar (Prophet Muhammed's father-in-law) saw an elderly Jew begging in Madina:


Jews in Madina had made money in the past by creating wars between Arab pagan tribes, and then lending out money to them buy weapons with interest-based loans.

Islam brought peace to Madina, and it also forbid the practice of usury money lending. The Jews' main source of income in Madina had dried up. Within a few years their powerful position had diminished, and Caliph Umar bin al-Khattab came across an elderly Jew begging in Madina. Umar gave the elderly Jew some money, and then order the Islamic treasury to pay a pension to elderly Jews.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KlO64wl4Zw

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 19th, 2012 at 7:49pm

falah wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 7:25pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2012 at 8:23am:
Falah, you have previously attempted to excuse the collective punishment of an entire tribe of Jews over the molestation of a woman and a murder. If Israel applied the same standard every palestinian would be dead by now.


That is untrue Freeliar i have already explained that the right of the tribe to live as a sovereign entity in the Islamic state was revoked due to their breaking a peace treaty.

A large number of Jewish warriors from a tribe that had made a peace treaty with Muslims killed a Muslim in public. This was considered a break in the peace treaty with the tribe.

Individual Jews from that tribe were able to claim asylum, and many did. Only the tribes special status as 'a state allowed to live within the state' was revoked. Individual Jews from the tribe who were prepared to submit to the rule of the Islamic state and apply for asylum were allowed to stay within the Islamic state.

99% of Jews living in the Islamic state did not belong to this group that had broken the peace treaty, and their status under the Islamic state was not affected.


Yes Falah, collective punishment. There was nothing in the treaty saying that no crimes would ever be committed. Quite the opposite in fact.

How many Jews were slaughtered in this process?

Was this in Medina, where Muhammed slaughtered 500 Jewish men and rode off on the women?


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Islam brought peace to Madina, and it also forbid the practice of usury money lending. The Jews' main source of income in Madina had dried up.


;D

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Jun 30th, 2012 at 9:21am

falah wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 1:32am:

Yadda wrote on Jun 30th, 2012 at 1:21am:
How else can you explain the predominance of Jews being among recipients of the Nobel Prize, except that the Jewish people are a lot smarter than most non-Jewish people ?


It is quite simple, just look at who dominates Western (especially US) media.

The Nobel Prize committe is undoubetly influenced by a media which promotes its own people.

An example is the the promotion of the plagiarist, Albert Einstein, by US media.


The Jews became rich through milking Christians with their usury banking system. Then they used their wealth to influence US and British media outlets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_bank


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 10:15pm
Looks like TC has taken over where Falah left off:


True Colours wrote on Aug 22nd, 2013 at 12:57pm:
Do you ever feel ashamed of your lies Freediver? Do you feel that it helps to promote your Zionist agenda by telling lies? The more you lie, the worse the Zionists look.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on May 23rd, 2014 at 7:55pm

True Colours wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 10:27pm:

Mattywisk wrote on May 18th, 2014 at 10:07pm:
worship[p]ing  profi[phe]t...


Don't worry, keep trying. I am sure you will get the hang of the English language some day.

BTW, technically-speaking Muslims aren't allowed to worship their prophet... or their profit either. Jews, on the other hand, well we all know what people say about them and their profits. ;)


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by freediver on Mar 22nd, 2024 at 7:17am

wombatwoody wrote on Mar 21st, 2024 at 11:32pm:

freediver wrote on Mar 19th, 2024 at 9:22pm:

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As I said, Palestinians, (not just Muslims, but Christians and others) lived side by side in peace for centuries and centuries and centuries


Yes, we are going round in circles. After you said this, I pointed out that wiping out Jews began with the prophet Muhammad. It is written into Islam. The Jews learned to put up with whatever the Muslims threw at them, because the alternative is death.


And I showed, firstly, that you misunderstood what was going on at the time and secondly, I showed how Jews were not only protected under Muslim rule elsewhere but were allowed to flourish:


How have I misunderstood what was happening at the time?

Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Frank on Mar 22nd, 2024 at 9:07am

falah wrote on Jun 19th, 2012 at 1:03am:
How the Roshidoon Caliphate established old-age pension for Jews after Caliph Umar (Prophet Muhammed's father-in-law) saw an elderly Jew begging in Madina:


Jews in Madina had made money in the past by creating wars between Arab pagan tribes, and then lending out money to them buy weapons with interest-based loans.

Islam brought peace to Madina, and it also forbid the practice of usury money lending. The Jews' main source of income in Madina had dried up. Within a few years their powerful position had diminished, and Caliph Umar bin al-Khattab came across an elderly Jew begging in Madina. Umar gave the elderly Jew some money, and then order the Islamic treasury to pay a pension to elderly Jews.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KlO64wl4Zw


Then alighting from his beast he tied it up to a tree, and going to the entrance pronounced the words which he had not forgotten, "Open, O Simsim!"

Hereat, as was its wont, the door flew open, and entering thereby he saw the goods and hoard of gold and silver untouched and lying as he had left them. So he felt assured that not one of all the Jews remained alive, and, that save himself there was not a soul who knew the secret of the place. At once he bound in his saddlecloth a load of Ashrafis such as his horse could bear and brought it home; and in after days he showed the hoard to his sons and sons' sons and taught them how the door could be caused to open and shut.

Thus Ali Baba and his household lived all their lives in wealth and joyance in that city where erst he had been a pauper, and by the blessing of that secret treasure he rose to high degree and dignities.


Title: Re: Falah: Jews are 'parasites'
Post by Gnads on Mar 22nd, 2024 at 9:23am

falah wrote on Jan 25th, 2012 at 8:21pm:
What you have written is a lie. I didn't actually say "Jews are parasites".

But does the Jewish religion itself encourage parasticism? Does not Judaism encourage parasitic behaviour if it teaches that it is OK to steal from and cheat non-Jews?

Not every Jew is a parasite. But is it their religion which has prevented them from having established an empire in the last 2000+ years? 

The Merchant of Venice is a Christian British portrayal of medieval Jews...and pretty tame compared to some of the stories about Jews drinking children's blood that were common in Europe at the time.

I raised the issue of the Merchant of Venice to illustrate that there was a time when Christian Europeans disapproved of usury-based money lending. It is only since it has become widely accepted in Europe that Jews have managed togain influence.

If you have an issue with The Merchant of Venice, then I suggest you take it up with William Shakespeare.



Isn't that also what the Quran says, that it's OK for Muslims to lie to, steal & cheat non-muslims/infidels?

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