http://www.news.com.au/national/its-not-ok-to-discriminate-stephanie-payne-speaks-out-over-taunts-on-public-transport/story-e6frfkvr-1226090101941

A "FATTER than fat" mother of four says she's sick of fellow commuters who abuse her for being obese.

Stephanie Payne, 31, who once weighed 243kg, said she had been the victim of countless unprovoked, hurtful attacks from passengers.

Ms Payne said she caught an early train so she could have a seat without being abused.

Fellow passengers have called her a "fat pig", sometimes in front of her children.

"It happens to me all the time and up until this point I've put up with it," she said.

"When people tease me, it makes me feel isolated, like I don't have the right to catch a train."

Ms Payne said she should not be forced to buy a second ticket because she took up more room than other passengers.

She listens to music to avoid hearing the taunts from other passengers.

"I am constantly picked on and bullied for no other reason other than the fact that I am overweight," Ms Payne said.

Ms Payne now weighs 180kg after lap-band surgery and a fitness program.

Breaking point was reached last week when she was abused by commuters waiting at North Melbourne station.

Writing in her blog, she complained that mX regularly published derogatory comments about overweight people on public transport.

"It seems by them running these opinions, it has given some members of the public the idea that it's OK to attack a fat person," Ms Payne wrote.

Public Transport Minister Terry Mulder said: "People need to be conscious of the needs of their fellow passengers and treat them with basic courtesy and respect."

V/Line spokesman James Kelly said people abused by other passengers should raise the issue with the conductor.

"We would always encourage appropriate standards of behaviour from passengers to each other," Mr Kelly said.

"It's not up to other passengers to determine what right anyone else has to travel on public transport."

http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/passengers-too-fat-to-fly-ordeal/story-e6frfq80-1226058063132

   Airline says it's "tough" dealing with fat fliers
   Women were told they were "too fat to fly"
   Airline has apologised over the incident

SOUTHWEST Airlines has apologised for telling two women they were "too fat to fly" but says its obese passengers policy can lead to "tough" conversations.

Passengers Kenlie Tiggeman and her mother Joan Charpentier were furious after being singled out by a Southwest employee because of their weight on a stopover at Dallas Airport last month.

The airline has admitted that the situation was not handled appropriately and has contacted the passengers to offer a "heartfelt apology".

"Southwest Airlines apologised to both customers for the manner in which we addressed the situation," a Southwest spokeswoman said.

"We expect our employees to treat customers with respect and address any issues with the utmost discretion."

The airline insists that its "Customers of size" policy - which states passengers need to buy a second seat if they cannot fit between the armrest - is important for the comfort of all passengers but admits that conversations with overweight fliers can be difficult.

"Our employees do their best to have these tough conversations on behalf of the comfort and safety of all customers onboard our flights."

The airline admits on this occasion the policy was not applied consistently on all legs of the trip, however it says it stands by the 25-year-old policy.

Ms Tiggeman relived the "humiliating" incident on her blog, telling how the situation developed into a 45-minute confrontation over the airline's weight restrictions in front of other passengers.

"I asked him what the weight restrictions were and he said that he didn't know, just that we were too heavy to fly,” Ms Tiggeman said. “Too fat to fly."

The women say during the public stoush with the Southwest employee he even told them they could board the plane but only if they sat next to a third overweight person in a row.

A supervisor eventually intervened and they were able to board their flight without any special conditions.

Southwest has already taken flack over the policy with high-profile and sizeable film director Kevin Smith also told he was too fat to fly.

They'd beter get used to it.  When resources become more scarce, the sort of over-indulgence that these greedy pigs partake in will be unacceptable.

The current rules encourage people to pack heavy, dense items in carry on luggage and their person to save money. This is not good, especially if you hit bad turbulence.

When you front up to the counter, both you and your luggage should be weighed. You should pay a fixed price for the seat (or two if that is what you need), and a price per kilo of total weight on top of that, to cover extra fuel consumption etc.

freediver wrote on Jul 15^th, 2011 at 8:34pm:

The current rules encourage people to pack heavy, dense items in carry on luggage and their person to save money. This is not good, especially if you hit bad turbulence. When you front up to the counter, both you and your luggage should be weighed. You should pay a fixed price for the seat (or two if that is what you need), and a price per kilo of total weight on top of that, to cover extra fuel consumption etc.

Hardly.
That's extreme.

You can't make a person pay more just because they weigh more.

Come on, the extra fuel consumption is negligable and doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things - particularly when you consider the weight of the cargo that goes on with you.

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You can't make a person pay more just because they weigh more. Come on, the extra fuel consumption is negligable and doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things - particularly when you consider the weight of the cargo that goes on with you.

A healthy weight range would be between 70 and 100 Kg (at a generous guess). If everybody weighed 250 that's a big difference. It costs them more to eat, buy clothes and get around, (they obviously don't walk much) so it's okay, they're used to paying more.  ;D

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You can't make a person pay more just because they weigh more.

Why not? They charge by the kilo for excess  baggage.


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Come on, the extra fuel consumption is negligable and doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things - particularly when you consider the weight of the cargo that goes on with you.

Maybe I just pack lightly, but I can't remember my luggage ever weighing more than myself.

Some people are overweight due to medical conditions and I have every sympathy for them, however there are those who are obese due to laziness and over indulgence and sitting next to these on a plane is something no one should be subject to.  Therefore I see no reason they should not be charged for an extra seat.

Well, well well, isn't this just a little meeting of bigots. What is it next time Maqqa little girls with crossed eyes.

You should be embarrassed at how low you will go for attention. Opinion like this is the worst. Those that have a compulsion to eat for what ever reasons need help and empathy. Clearly you have no such understanding and empathy for your fellow man.

Onya.

maqqa's a simpleton, but that's no excuse for humiliating disabled people.

So you think we should subsidise air travel for fat people so as not to cause offence?

Re: FATTER than fat
Reply #8 - Today at 5:05pm     Well, well well, isn't this just a little meeting of bigots. What is it next time Maqqa little girls with crossed eyes.
Nairne, in some respect I agree with you, but sitting next to someone with a weight of 150kg plus on a long flight can be sheer hell.
I'am no expert on obesity, but during the last war in Europe, there were hardly any oveweight people, never mind obese, so medical conditions cannot play such a great role in obesity.

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2011 at 6:26pm:

So you think we should subsidise air travel for fat people so as not to cause offence?

It might be time for airlines to install bigger seats for bigger people. The western world are getting heavier by the minute whilst the poor nations are dying of hunger by the second. The airline companies might have to make allowances for social change.

It's a takeaway fast food world we live in. Healthy eating is not going to take over any time soon if McDoanalds have their way.

I find it interesting the number of 'fat-haters' on public message boards.

Of course, no fat people sit on their asses using the internet to post opinions on forums, it's only skinny 'beautiful people' that do that.

Nevermind that over 50% of the adult population of Australia is overweight or obese - none of them are here of course!

Did anyone bother to read this woman's blog?  She's doing some good stuff raising money for cancer research.  

More than many are doing.

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 16^th, 2011 at 5:25pm:

maqqa's a simpleton, but that's no excuse for humiliating disabled people.

maqqas a tryhard fascist dictator: a bit like
Tony 'gutless' Abbott!  ;D ;D

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Jul 16^th, 2011 at 7:09pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 16th, 2011 at 6:26pm: So you think we should subsidise air travel for fat people so as not to cause offence? It might be time for airlines to install bigger seats for bigger people. The western world are getting heavier by the minute whilst the poor nations are dying of hunger by the second. The airline companies might have to make allowances for social change. It's a takeaway fast food world we live in. Healthy eating is not going to take over any time soon if McDoanalds have their way.

So we should all pay a huge amount more for air travel merely so the occasional morbidly obese passenger does not feel embarrassed? We don't just need to subsidise their air travel, we need to waste even more to protect their ego?


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I find it interesting the number of 'fat-haters' on public message boards.

Why do people automatically assume this is something personal? Has anyone posted anything here to indicate this is about hating fat people?

Yes they have.  When people call a group of other people derogatory names, what would you call that?

If I had a screwdriver available I would put it through the persons ears who dared assault me with abuse for being obese.  That is self defense and sticking up for yourself - so taunt at your own risk and suffer the consequences. 8-)

... wrote on Jul 11^th, 2011 at 11:33am:

They'd beter get used to it.  When resources become more scarce, the sort of over-indulgence that these greedy pigs partake in will be unacceptable.

If you or anyone else abuse me for being obese - you die. :)

freediver wrote on Jul 16^th, 2011 at 6:26pm:

So you think we should subsidise air travel for fat people so as not to cause offence?

gOVERNMENT SHOULD SUBSIDIZE AIR TRAVEL FOR DISABLED PEOPLE TO END DISCRIMINATION AND SOCIAL EXCLUSION.  mANY Obese disabled people like myself might be able to afford to travel if we could use our pension card when purchasing a ticket. 8-)

Think about that next time you persecute some obese person out of the workplace what it might cost you in taxes.... :)

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Yes they have.  When people call a group of other people derogatory names, what would you call that?

When did the term fat become derogatory?


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gOVERNMENT SHOULD SUBSIDIZE AIR TRAVEL FOR DISABLED PEOPLE TO END DISCRIMINATION AND SOCIAL EXCLUSION.

So, free holidays for fat people? Should we subsidise food also?

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 11:13am:

Quote: Yes they have.  When people call a group of other people derogatory names, what would you call that? When did the term fat become derogatory? [quote]gOVERNMENT SHOULD SUBSIDIZE AIR TRAVEL FOR DISABLED PEOPLE TO END DISCRIMINATION AND SOCIAL EXCLUSION.

So, free holidays for fat people? Should we subsidise food also?[/quote]
Yes, most people are obese because of statecraft policies (Thatcherism & Reaganomics) and deliberate social exclusion and discrimination.  We are not just asking for these things we are demanding it as is our right.  Further we demand the right to be issued firearms on request for self defensive purposes against violent abuse and assault. :)

Yes isn't the logic of the bigot just spunky,

"I'am no expert on obesity, but during the last war in Europe, there were hardly any oveweight people, never mind obese, so medical conditions cannot play such a great role in obesity."

Now there is a deep insight into historical issues. I am sure you think the concentration camps were just weight loss centres.

"So you think we should subsidise air travel for fat people so as not to cause offence?"

I am suggesting you show similar compassion to a person with what is normally a serious health problem as you would someone in a wheel chair. But i suppose you think they should get off their lazy butts and stop being a drain on our communities.

I think everyone should pay by the kilo, not just fat people. They pay for their food by the amount they consume. Why not pay for travel according to the fuel they consume? It is not like they can rock up to a petrol station and demand a fat person discount because they weigh so much and cannot fit into a small car.

You are confusing a bad policy born of convenience with some kind of fundamental right.

Prevailing wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 3:52am:

If I had a screwdriver available I would put it through the persons ears who dared assault me with abuse for being obese.  That is self defense and sticking up for yourself - so taunt at your own risk and suffer the consequences. 8-)

i don't like fatties
they offend me

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 11:13am:

Quote: Yes they have.  When people call a group of other people derogatory names, what would you call that? When did the term fat become derogatory?

It wasn't the term 'fat' that I was talking about.  It was the term 'greedy pigs' - but I guess that's not meant to be derogatory either?

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 5:58pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 3:52am: If I had a screwdriver available I would put it through the persons ears who dared assault me with abuse for being obese.  That is self defense and sticking up for yourself - so taunt at your own risk and suffer the consequences. 8-) i don't like fatties they offend me

bit like assholes.  they offend me.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 5:58pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 3:52am: If I had a screwdriver available I would put it through the persons ears who dared assault me with abuse for being obese.  That is self defense and sticking up for yourself - so taunt at your own risk and suffer the consequences. 8-) i don't like fatties they offend me

Like I said, yoiu can say what you like as a coward behind a keyboard, but if you abuse me to my face about my weight, I will kill you where you stand. :)

Prevailing wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 7:27pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 5:58pm: Prevailing wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 3:52am: If I had a screwdriver available I would put it through the persons ears who dared assault me with abuse for being obese.  That is self defense and sticking up for yourself - so taunt at your own risk and suffer the consequences. 8-) i don't like fatties they offend me Like I said, yoiu can say what you like as a coward behind a keyboard, but if you abuse me to my face about my weight, I will kill you where you stand. :)

i have reported you for violenc threats.
go eat some "comfort" food. A few chickens should do it.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 8:29pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 7:27pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 5:58pm: Prevailing wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 3:52am: If I had a screwdriver available I would put it through the persons ears who dared assault me with abuse for being obese.  That is self defense and sticking up for yourself - so taunt at your own risk and suffer the consequences. 8-) i don't like fatties they offend me Like I said, yoiu can say what you like as a coward behind a keyboard, but if you abuse me to my face about my weight, I will kill you where you stand. :) i have reported you for violenc threats. go eat some "comfort" food. A few chickens should do it.

i WILL BE HAPPY TO DEAL WITH YOU BEFORE ANY AUTHORITIES YOU WANT TO GO BEFORE AND HAVE YOU EXPLain your abusiveness towards me for my obesity and what I said still stands not only for you, but anyone who chooses to act abusively to me for my obesity or threatening towards me in anyway - I will kill you or that person where they stand.  Self defense is entirely legal go learn the law before you get yourself into trouble. :)

So killing someone because they called you fat is self defence?

Bit too much drama for a Sunday night

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 8:48pm:

So killing someone because they called you fat is self defence?

it certainly is.   it is unprovoked, violent aggression, it strikes at our dignity and humanity.  As I said, I would not hesitate and the scandal would force the state to address the rights of the disabled  to be free from persecution, social exclusion and discrimination..8-)

Are you socking? This sounds like a stereotypical example of a fat person blaming other people for their lack of self control.

No-one has a right to be free from social exclusion. The government cannot force people to be your friend.

Nor is it unfair discrimination for an airline to charge people according to how much it actually costs the airline to move them.

freediver wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 9:12pm:

Are you socking? This sounds like a stereotypical example of a fat person blaming other people for their lack of self control. No-one has a right to be free from social exclusion. The government cannot force people to be your friend. Nor is it unfair discrimination for an airline to charge people according to how much it actually costs the airline to move them.

They certainly can and do move on civil rights issues.  Abusing an obese person is no more acceptable than using the N word for Black people.  The state has an obligation to foster affirmative action for the obese to end the discrimination.  It is not acceptable to discriminate on the basis of disability  caused  by deliberate Statecraft  policies of exclusion.  As I said, I would kill a person  where they stood for abusing me for  being obese. 8-)

Prevailing wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 8:44pm:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 8:29pm: Prevailing wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 7:27pm: Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 5:58pm: Prevailing wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 3:52am: If I had a screwdriver available I would put it through the persons ears who dared assault me with abuse for being obese.  That is self defense and sticking up for yourself - so taunt at your own risk and suffer the consequences. 8-) i don't like fatties they offend me Like I said, yoiu can say what you like as a coward behind a keyboard, but if you abuse me to my face about my weight, I will kill you where you stand. :) i have reported you for violenc threats. go eat some "comfort" food. A few chickens should do it. i WILL BE HAPPY TO DEAL WITH YOU BEFORE ANY AUTHORITIES YOU WANT TO GO BEFORE AND HAVE YOU EXPLain your abusiveness towards me for my obesity and what I said still stands not only for you, but anyone who chooses to act abusively to me for my obesity or threatening towards me in anyway - I will kill you or that person where they stand.  Self defense is entirely legal go learn the law before you get yourself into trouble. :)

are the mods going to do anything about threats to me ?

Or is it ok to threaten a male ?

I have reported you again.
Not that i think anything will happen.

By my standards, a death threat deserves a ban.

Why is "fat" more offensive than overweight, obese or morbidly obese? - apart from the fact that  fat is not a medical term whereas the others refer to specific BMI ranges.  

muso wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 9:08am:

By my standards, a death threat deserves a ban. Why is "fat" more offensive than overweight, obese or morbidly obese? - apart from the fact that  fat is not a medical term whereas the others refer to specific BMI ranges.

Just a few days rest would be sufficient for me.

Why was Prevailing banned?  I fully support what he said - it took guts in a society almost ready to kill obese people again like they did in the past and there were people here openly advocating abuse and discrimination of obese people and you did nothing.  Looks like the state may have to argue this one out in court one day to find out if the Obese do indeed have the right to defend their lived from violent abuse by what ever means necessary.  Congratulations for pointing out people may abuse obese people and you think this is acceptable.  What an asshole.

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 10:19am:

Why was Prevailing banned?  I fully support what he said - it took guts in a society almost ready to kill obese people again like they did in the past and there were people here openly advocating abuse and discrimination of obese people and you did nothing.  Looks like the state may have to argue this one out in court one day to find out if the Obese do indeed have the right to defend their lived from violent abuse by what ever means necessary.  Congratulations for pointing out people may abuse obese people and you think this is acceptable.  What an asshole.

1. I don't have an issue with him defending his rights.

2. I do have a problem with one member making death threats against another.

I've been on the receiving end of death threats once before, and it's not very pleasant. I think we should have zero tolerance for such terrorism on this board.

One thing that everybody should appreciate about obesity is that it doesn't go away immediately. It can take 6 months of concerted effort to get back to normal, and one misguided comment can wreck that effort.

LMAO

muso wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 10:51am:

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 18th, 2011 at 10:19am: Why was Prevailing banned?  I fully support what he said - it took guts in a society almost ready to kill obese people again like they did in the past and there were people here openly advocating abuse and discrimination of obese people and you did nothing.  Looks like the state may have to argue this one out in court one day to find out if the Obese do indeed have the right to defend their lived from violent abuse by what ever means necessary.  Congratulations for pointing out people may abuse obese people and you think this is acceptable.  What an asshole. 1. I don't have an issue with him defending his rights. 2. I do have a problem with one member making death threats against another. I've been on the receiving end of death threats once before, and it's not very pleasant. I think we should have zero tolerance for such terrorism on this board. One thing that everybody should appreciate about obesity is that it doesn't go away immediately. It can take 6 months of concerted effort to get back to normal, and one misguided comment can wreck that effort.

Abusing someone because they are obese is a death threat.

This is the only terrorism

Any act of aggression against a persons humanity my be defended by such means.

No direct threat of death was made

An implied threat was made as to what the response of unprovoked abuse would be were it made directly to the person being abused.

Obesity is the fault of the state, it is not curable except by the restoration of civil and economic rights

it is a direct consequence of Thatcherite social discrimination and wealth distribution by the state.

Direct personal threats and abuse were made to a person because of Obesity.

You would not want to argue your position in court.

The law says a person may defend their person, that is not a threat, it is the law, it is not terrorism to repeat that right - it is the law.

To imply an Obese person may not defend themselves in line with the provisions of the law from unprovoked attack on their person makes you a terrorist and an asshole.

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 11:26am:

Obesity is the fault of the state, it is not curable except by the restoration of civil and economic rights

Absolute crap. Obesity is a direct consequence of the actions of the obese individual. It is curable by will-power and acceptance of responsibility for ones own actions.

The only person who can cure it is the person themselves.

muso wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 11:30am:

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 18th, 2011 at 11:26am: Obesity is the fault of the state, it is not curable except by the restoration of civil and economic rights Absolute crap. Obesity is a direct consequence of the actions of the obese individual. It is curable by will-power and acceptance of responsibility for ones own actions. The only person who can cure it is the person themselves.

Obesity is the fault of the state who promote openly the targeting and destruction of people they identify for one reason or another as the weakest link.  People they have dehumanized to the point they deny their very right to defend themselves from personal attack to prove they are not the weakest link, but the state promoted the persecution of Aboriginals, black people, chinese, ugly old ect the list goes on.

The ideal for state and industry is that you eat like a pig and burn it off in a gym; though eating like a pig and burning it off running is acceptable.  ;D

So, anyway, let prevailing back by wednesday is my vote .

http://johnglanvill.com/locus-of-control/

Worth a read.


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Locus of Control LoC – Is basically the psychological term that describes how much a person believes they can control the events of their life. If you have an External Locus of Control then it is likely that you feel that many things are out of your control and believe that chance, fate, luck, God or more powerful ‘other’ people will play a big role in how your life unfolds. For those people who have formed an Internal Locus of Control, they believe that they are responsible for their own life and the outcomes that they experience..... Those individuals with a higher external locus of control seem to be more susceptible to anxiety, depression, poor health and weight gain, whilst those with lower more internal scores, are often, calmer, more positive, more resilient and seem to bounce back more quickly after unfortunate events in their life and tend to have a more healthy outlook regarding their body. I will go into more detail later in this post, however, the good news is that once a clients can see that they may be abdicating or deferring  some of their control to external sources many things can change in their lives, (if that is what they want). In my experience helping a client move their external locus of control more towards an internal LoC and helping them to take more responsibility for all aspects of their life is a key aspect of recovering from depression, raising self-esteem and bolstering confidence.

The message is - take resposibility for where you are today and you might even end up more confident and healthier.  

Prevailing wrote on Jul 17^th, 2011 at 9:31pm:

freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 9:12pm: Are you socking? This sounds like a stereotypical example of a fat person blaming other people for their lack of self control. No-one has a right to be free from social exclusion. The government cannot force people to be your friend. Nor is it unfair discrimination for an airline to charge people according to how much it actually costs the airline to move them. They certainly can and do move on civil rights issues.  Abusing an obese person is no more acceptable than using the N word for Black people.  The state has an obligation to foster affirmative action for the obese to end the discrimination.  It is not acceptable to discriminate on the basis of disability  caused  by deliberate Statecraft  policies of exclusion.  As I said, I would kill a person  where they stood for abusing me for  being obese. 8-)

Only if you could catch them you fat bastard ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

muso wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 2:47pm:

http://johnglanvill.com/locus-of-control/ Worth a read. Quote: Locus of Control LoC – Is basically the psychological term that describes how much a person believes they can control the events of their life. If you have an External Locus of Control then it is likely that you feel that many things are out of your control and believe that chance, fate, luck, God or more powerful ‘other’ people will play a big role in how your life unfolds. For those people who have formed an Internal Locus of Control, they believe that they are responsible for their own life and the outcomes that they experience..... Those individuals with a higher external locus of control seem to be more susceptible to anxiety, depression, poor health and weight gain, whilst those with lower more internal scores, are often, calmer, more positive, more resilient and seem to bounce back more quickly after unfortunate events in their life and tend to have a more healthy outlook regarding their body. I will go into more detail later in this post, however, the good news is that once a clients can see that they may be abdicating or deferring  some of their control to external sources many things can change in their lives, (if that is what they want). In my experience helping a client move their external locus of control more towards an internal LoC and helping them to take more responsibility for all aspects of their life is a key aspect of recovering from depression, raising self-esteem and bolstering confidence. The message is - take resposibility for where you are today and you might even end up more confident and healthier.

Yeh, the state used to read that crap to the Niggaz in the cotton field, the Abos on the reservations and the Jews marching to the ovens - very funny pseudo science pop psychology - the magic of Belief.

Arbeit macht frei

Torrwch y gwddf eich rheolwr i fod yn rhydd

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They certainly can and do move on civil rights issues.  Abusing an obese person is no more acceptable than using the N word for Black people.  The state has an obligation to foster affirmative action for the obese to end the discrimination.  It is not acceptable to discriminate on the basis of disability  caused  by deliberate Statecraft  policies of exclusion.  As I said, I would kill a person  where they stood for abusing me for  being obese.

The problem is that obese people so often appear incapable of distinguishing abuse, being asked to pay their own way, and attempts to reduce the prevalence of obesity in society.


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It can take 6 months of concerted effort to get back to normal, and one misguided comment can wreck that effort.

You can add 20kg to someone's weight by saying they are fat?


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Abusing someone because they are obese is a death threat.

No it isn't. Stop pretending fat people are retarded. It is dehumanising.


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Obesity is the fault of the state, it is not curable except by the restoration of civil and economic rights

Either that, or eating less.

I think Prevailing would say dont say another word unless you are going to go and repeat what you are saying to his face.  He would consider your words both a death threat and a question of honor.  I am calling you a coward.

Belgarion wrote on Jul 18^th, 2011 at 3:34pm:

Prevailing wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 9:31pm: freediver wrote on Jul 17th, 2011 at 9:12pm: Are you socking? This sounds like a stereotypical example of a fat person blaming other people for their lack of self control. No-one has a right to be free from social exclusion. The government cannot force people to be your friend. Nor is it unfair discrimination for an airline to charge people according to how much it actually costs the airline to move them. They certainly can and do move on civil rights issues.  Abusing an obese person is no more acceptable than using the N word for Black people.  The state has an obligation to foster affirmative action for the obese to end the discrimination.  It is not acceptable to discriminate on the basis of disability  caused  by deliberate Statecraft  policies of exclusion.  As I said, I would kill a person  where they stood for abusing me for  being obese. 8-) Only if you could catch them you fat bastard ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

another gutless worm of a coward

Obesity did not exist in Australia 30 years ago - now it is epidemic with the most discriminated against and poorest Australians.  Prevailing has run eight Marathons a couple of 20 milers and countless half marathons.  Obesity in Australia and the Western world is the fault of the state and business - they are the enemy - rise up - fight them comrades.

Instead of walking on eggsheels every tinme obesity comes up, we should give them the same tratment we give smokers. At least smokers have a valid excuse in the form of a genuine addiction.

Surely any addiction is genuine?

Like I said, anyone who is abusive towards me in my presence I would treat it as a death threat and react accordingly and with extreme prejudice - I have zero tolerance for violations of my person or social; snobs any more I hate social snobs and as these are the most aggressive and dangerous towards those they feel inferior - they are the only ones that have any thing to fear from me.  And they do have a lot to fear if they are stupid about it.  Life is just too short for one stupid error of judgment...

Do you celebrate when ever a social snob does the world a favor and passes on?

:)

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:32pm:

..........  Life is just too short for one stupid error of judgment... Do you celebrate when ever a social snob does the world a favor and passes on?

life is also too long to continually make the same mistake. eg overeating.

no, I don't celebrate the dying of people.

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Sprintcyclist wrote on Jul 20^th, 2011 at 3:36pm:

IWontPayMyBills wrote on Jul 20th, 2011 at 2:32pm: ..........  Life is just too short for one stupid error of judgment... Do you celebrate when ever a social snob does the world a favor and passes on? life is also too long to continually make the same mistake. eg overeating. no, I don't celebrate the dying of people.

I celebrate when Toxic power drunk rich people die - the air is some how cleaner and less polluted, I feel healthier, happier and more alive every-time their is one less blood sucking vampire social snob left in the world. :)

hahahhah