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Title: Let the NBN waste begin Post by Maqqa on Mar 25th, 2011 at 10:22pm
http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/9077971/nbn-bills-passed-after-marathon-session/
National broadband network bills have passed the Senate after a marathon Friday night sitting. The upper house chamber was meant to have adjourned on Thursday for six weeks, but an extra day was scheduled. Communications Minister Stephen Conroy threw parliament into disarray by springing forward 35 amendments to an access arrangements bill. The process was slow, and threatened to spill over into Saturday. Shortly after 9.30pm AEDT, however, the Senate voted 34 to 32 to pass two key NBN bills, with the Australian Greens and crossbench senators Nick Xenophon and Steve Fielding siding with Labor. After a 12-hour sitting, senators voted on 23 pages of amendments governing the commercial operations of the company behind the $36 billion project. Earlier in the evening, the government compromised on its most contentious amendment, covering the role of the competition regulator. The minister originally wanted the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) to get permission from NBN Co to vary any points of interconnect. But Senator Xenophon and the Greens jointly put forward their own amendment so NBN Co would not have a right of veto over an ACCC decision. It passed 34 to 32, with the government siding with crossbench senators. The amendment also called on the ACCC to review by June 2013 policies relating to network interconnection points. The coalition supported the crossbenchers' amendment, but ended up voting against the government's entire amendment with the changes. Still, the NBN Companies bill and an access arrangements bill have both passed the Senate. In a statement, Senator Conroy said the passage of amendments covering national wholesale pricing would translate into affordable retail prices for high-speed broadband "for all Australians no matter where they live". "Passage of these bills further underpins the Gillard government's policy to deliver structural reform of the telecommunications industry to promote, for the first time, sustainable retail-level competition," he said. His media release failed to mention how earlier in the day, the minister took issue with National Senate leader Barnaby Joyce's call for unit pricing regulations so satellite and wireless services in remote areas could be delivered at the same price as high-speed optical fibres in major cities. Lower house MPs are now due back in Canberra on Monday to consider the bills. Opposition communications spokesman Malcolm Turnbull said Senator Conroy created an enormous legislative challenge with his rush of amendments. "This is a big deal but the government is making it up as it goes along, it is chaotic, it is dysfunctional," he told ABC Television. Australia's No 2 telco Optus earlier expressed concern about amendments being sprung at short notice. When it came to Telstra, the biggest telco, the government insisted the amendments need to be resolved so there was no commercial uncertainty as it dealt with NBN Co. The Senate was adjourned at 10pm AEDT, and is not scheduled to return until May 10 which is budget day. |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by buzzanddidj on Mar 25th, 2011 at 10:28pm buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 25th, 2011 at 1:21pm:
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Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by cods on Mar 26th, 2011 at 7:31am buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 25th, 2011 at 10:28pm:
all I can say buzz is we have far more money than we are lead to believe..[aka flood levy and carbon tax]. as much as I see computers as a fact of life... for the life of me I cant see them being more valueable than fixing our flood zones..and hopefully saving lives in the future. if that couldnt be put on hold for say 12 months well I am staggered.. guess our priorities are more than opposites. |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 26th, 2011 at 10:20am the nbn has already wasted 10's of millions of dollars, if not 100's |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by buzzanddidj on Mar 26th, 2011 at 5:49pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 26th, 2011 at 10:20am:
How has it been "wasted" ? SO far ... It is UNDER BUDGET And AHEAD of schedule |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by buzzanddidj on Mar 26th, 2011 at 6:32pm
NBN latest ...
NBN bills passed after marathon session By Stephen Johnson, AAP March 25, 2011, 10:04 pm National broadband network bills have passed the Senate after a marathon Friday night sitting. The upper house chamber was meant to have adjourned on Thursday for six weeks, but an extra day was scheduled. Communications Minister Stephen Conroy threw parliament into disarray by springing forward 35 amendments to an access arrangements bill. The process was slow, and threatened to spill over into Saturday. Shortly after 9.30pm AEDT, however, the Senate voted 34 to 32 to pass two key NBN bills, with the Australian Greens and crossbench senators Nick Xenophon and Steve Fielding siding with Labor. After a 12-hour sitting, senators voted on 23 pages of amendments governing the commercial operations of the company behind the $36 billion project. Earlier in the evening, the government compromised on its most contentious amendment, covering the role of the competition regulator. The minister originally wanted the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) to get permission from NBN Co to vary any points of interconnect. But Senator Xenophon and the Greens jointly put forward their own amendment so NBN Co would not have a right of veto over an ACCC decision. It passed 34 to 32, with the government siding with crossbench senators. The amendment also called on the ACCC to review by June 2013 policies relating to network interconnection points. The coalition supported the crossbenchers' amendment, but ended up voting against the government's entire amendment with the changes. Still, the NBN Companies bill and an access arrangements bill have both passed the Senate. In a statement, Senator Conroy said the passage of amendments covering national wholesale pricing would translate into affordable retail prices for high-speed broadband "for all Australians no matter where they live". "Passage of these bills further underpins the Gillard government's policy to deliver structural reform of the telecommunications industry to promote, for the first time, sustainable retail-level competition," he said. Cont ... http://au.news.yahoo.com/queensland/a/-/latest/9077971/nbn-bills-passed-after-marathon-session/ |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 26th, 2011 at 7:03pm Quote:
useless, cowardly action to thrust through leglislation at a witching hour. SO many amendments, it is deeply flawed |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by buzzanddidj on Mar 26th, 2011 at 9:40pm
Did you MISS this, sprint ?
buzzanddidj wrote on Mar 26th, 2011 at 5:49pm:
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Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by Deathridesahorse on Mar 26th, 2011 at 9:48pm cods wrote on Mar 26th, 2011 at 7:31am:
Hey buddy, WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SENSIBLE AUSTRALIANS WHO DON'T LIVE ON FLOODPLAINS!??! DON'T GO INTO POLITICS TOO SOON WILL YA MATEY! ;) ;) ;D :D :D :D :D :-[ Hey buddy, WHAT ABOUT ALL THE SENSIBLE AUSTRALIANS WHO DON'T LIVE ON FLOODPLAINS!??! DON'T GO INTO POLITICS TOO SOON WILL YA MATEY! ;) ;) ;D :D :D :D :D :-[ |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by Deathridesahorse on Mar 26th, 2011 at 9:50pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Mar 26th, 2011 at 7:03pm:
DON'T GO INTO SALES MATE: YOU ARE HOPELESS! :'( :'( :'( :'( :o 8-) DON'T GO INTO SALES MATE: YOU ARE HOPELESS! :'( :'( :'( :'( :o 8-) DON'T GO INTO SALES MATE: YOU ARE HOPELESS! :'( :'( :'( :'( :o 8-) DON'T GO INTO SALES MATE: YOU ARE HOPELESS! :'( :'( :'( :'( :o 8-) |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by Sprintcyclist on Apr 1st, 2011 at 12:20am oops - anyone here know what it means when an uncosted project has delays ?? well, juliars nbn has yet another delay Quote:
http://www.smh.com.au/business/soaring-costs-halt-tenders-for-nbn-20110331-1cnl3.html ANY delay is an added expense. |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by Deathridesahorse on Apr 1st, 2011 at 3:22pm
STEVE CANNANE: But when I went back to Greg Hunt today, he said he defines 100 square kilometres as a hundred by a hundred, not 10 by 10.
STEVE CANNANE: But when I went back to Greg Hunt today, he said he defines 100 square kilometres as a hundred by a hundred, not 10 by 10. STEVE CANNANE: But when I went back to Greg Hunt today, he said he defines 100 square kilometres as a hundred by a hundred, not 10 by 10. STEVE CANNANE: But when I went back to Greg Hunt today, he said he defines 100 square kilometres as a hundred by a hundred, not 10 by 10. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :-[ :-X STEVE CANNANE: But when I went back to Greg Hunt today, he said he defines 100 square kilometres as a hundred by a hundred, not 10 by 10. STEVE CANNANE: But when I went back to Greg Hunt today, he said he defines 100 square kilometres as a hundred by a hundred, not 10 by 10. STEVE CANNANE: But when I went back to Greg Hunt today, he said he defines 100 square kilometres as a hundred by a hundred, not 10 by 10. STEVE CANNANE: But when I went back to Greg Hunt today, he said he defines 100 square kilometres as a hundred by a hundred, not 10 by 10. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :-[ :-X I would say GREG HUNTS PURPOSEFUL DECEPTION TO MILLIONS MORE THAN COUNTERS ANY ATTACK ON THE NBN! :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ BYE BYE TONY 'ANTI-MARKET FORCES' ABBOTT : HE WAS A COMPLETE JOKE!!! :-X :-X :'( ;D |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by dsmithy70 on Apr 1st, 2011 at 3:58pm Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 1st, 2011 at 12:20am:
Well let me be blunt: STOP FVKING AROUND WITH THE MENTAL CASE & INSTALL TURNBULL. At worst you'll win the 2013 election at best the Independents will cross the floor before then. Why are you wasting time with this idiot. |
Title: Re: Let the NBN waste begin Post by Maqqa on Apr 2nd, 2011 at 10:39am
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/nbn-circus-up-to-its-tricks-again/story-e6frg9if-1226032264141
THE NBN circus show has changed tack yet again, by engaging in talks with a Leighton-Siemens joint venture, Silcar, over taking a big slice of the $10-12 billion network construction. This comes nine months after a tender aimed at finding half a dozen firms to build the project ended this week with the rejection of all the bids and a claim of industry price-gouging. |
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