Are there rules in Islam for beards or personal grooming?

I'd tell you, but you'd probably just accuse me of lying, if I didn't provide you with the answer you sought...

Why don't you tell me which answer you want to hear, so we can save the hostilities?

I've heard Muslims have to remove underarm and pubic hair.

I want to hear the truth Abu, without silly diversions. I can handle that. Can you?

If you can promise not to falsely accuse me of being a liar if I don't give the answer you sought?

as far as I've been told beards are recommended as part of the sunnah but there's debate over whether they're required- is that right abu?

as to removing certain body hair- it's for hygenic reasons. I don't know if it's merely encouraged or what

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as far as I've been told beards are recommended as part of the sunnah but there's debate over whether they're required- is that right abu?

Spot on Gaybriel.


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as to removing certain body hair- it's for hygenic reasons. I don't know if it's merely encouraged or what

Partially right.

Removing of this hair, along with nail clipping and circumcision are considered to be part of the 'fitrah' the natural religion that was from Abraham (pbuh). It's also called tahoor which means purity/cleanliness, so yes there's obviously some hygienic aspect to it.

So most devout Muslim men shave their armpits but grow their beards, because it's what Muhammed did?

freediver wrote on Oct 30^th, 2008 at 7:06pm:

So most devout Muslim men shave their armpits but grow their beards, because it's what Muhammed did?

beards I believe so

shaving armpits etc is what abu described above which has other reasons attached to it

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So most devout Muslim men shave their armpits but grow their beards, because it's what Muhammed did?

What he did, and what he advised us to do.

So most Muslims shave all off their pubes?

I have great beard and mustachios as well to keep bloody flies out of my mouth when yapping. This is a common sense in a warm humid climate, which has nothing to do with a religion and lots of other country people have beards too like Aussie pioneers had.

BTW, do you know that in old Scandinavian common law inability of bear growing was a legal reason for a woman to apply for divorce as well as a husband wearing women's closing?
Also, one of the "racial" characteristics of Asian and Arab men is their poor facial hair in comparison to Hebrews or Australian aboriginals beards.

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Also, one of the "racial" characteristics of Asian and Arab men is their poor facial hair in comparison to Hebrews

Since Arabs and Hebrews are pretty much the same race, that sounds a bit suspicious.

abu_rashid wrote on Oct 30^th, 2008 at 11:47pm:

Quote: Also, one of the "racial" characteristics of Asian and Arab men is their poor facial hair in comparison to Hebrews Since Arabs and Hebrews are pretty much the same race, that sounds a bit suspicious.

I think you mixed "racial" (physical appearance) with linguistic (same language group) proprieties.

Nope genetic tests have shown that Arabs and Jews are very similarly genetically.

Also, come on, Arabs are known to be quite hairy. What a joke, light facial hair???

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 1^st, 2008 at 8:34pm:

Nope genetic tests have shown that Arabs and Jews are very similarly genetically. Also, come on, Arabs are known to be quite hairy. What a joke, light facial hair???

I'm talking about Hebrews, Judaism is a religion.
You can find some very tall Chinese but it would be wrong to say that Chinese are a race of tall people.

The originator of the Hebrew race, the patriarch Abraham, originally came from the city of Ur not from Arabian peninsula.

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I'm talking about Hebrews, Judaism is a religion.

As am I.


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The originator of the Hebrew race, the patriarch Abraham

He was not only the originator of the Hebrews, but also the Arabs. This just proves my point.


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originally came from the city of Ur not from Arabian peninsula.

The land of the Arabs historically stretched right up into Jordan and Iraq and Palestine.

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 1^st, 2008 at 9:22pm:

Quote: I'm talking about Hebrews, Judaism is a religion. As am I. [quote]The originator of the Hebrew race, the patriarch Abraham

He was not only the originator of the Hebrews, but also the Arabs. This just proves my point.


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originally came from the city of Ur not from Arabian peninsula.

The land of the Arabs historically stretched right up into Jordan and Iraq and Palestine.[/quote]

Hebrew and Jew is not the same. For example Karl Marx was Hebrew but not Jewish.

Abraham was mixed up with some Arab women, which accounts why some but not all modern Arabs have good facial grows.

The land of the Arabs historically was in Arabian peninsula south of Mesopotamia, that's why Sumerian texts refer to Arabs as foreigners and invaders. Ur was a Mesopotamian city-state.

A lol, or a pithy comeback, that is the aussie way to address the above post Abu, give it a try, you do not have to try and hide from everything that you think of as challenging, to be challenged can be good.

Here is an example of how religion has nothing to do with beards.
http://speakingoffaith.publicradio.org/programs/ancheemin/images/fiveteachers.jpg

All this disgusting fellows are atheists but only 2 of them have proper beards.

So most Muslims shave off all their pubes?

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Hebrew and Jew is not the same. For example Karl Marx was Hebrew but not Jewish.

Hebrew refers to the people, Jewish can refer to the people, or the religion, or both.

I was purely referring to the ethnic group, as were you, why do you continue arguing this, when I clearly told you I'm referring to the same thing as you?


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Abraham was mixed up with some Arab women, which accounts why some but not all modern Arabs have good facial grows.

According to the Bible, Abraham (pbuh) had at least 3 wives and was the progenitor of many different nations of people. Hence his name, which means in Hebrew "Father of many nations".. Two of those nations are the Jewish/Hebrew nation (don't mix with the religion named after them) and the Arab nation.


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The land of the Arabs historically was in Arabian peninsula south of Mesopotamia, that's why Sumerian texts refer to Arabs as foreigners and invaders.

It's irrelevant, since the Bible declares Abraham (pbuh) to be the progenitor of the Arabs.

freediver, why do you keep asking a question about something answered in post #6 already? This seems to be habitual for you. You need all kinds of extra clarifications and affirmations etc. Just read the thread properly, so you don't have to keep confirming everything all the time. It's clearly answered in that post.

No it isn't.

That is why you keep getting the same questions, you always try to be evasive, are you that ashamed of what you believe, that you will not freely share it?

It's clearly stated in post #6.

I'm not going to repeat myself all day long for lazy people who can't be bothered reading something thoroughly. If you don't wanna read, you're not too interested in knowing.

BS, post six just says certain hair.

Previously you confirmed pits, but refused to expand on that answer, are you too ashamed or embarrassed to give a straight answer?

What pubes have to do with beards anyway?

mozza,


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BS, post six just says certain hair.

Sorry, I correct myself, it's blatantly obvious to any half wit with a micron or two of grey matter in his cranium.


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are you too ashamed or embarrassed to give a straight answer?

Nope, if I was  ashamed I wouldn't have posted post #6. There is no shame in asking about religious matters in Islam that might be considered shameful. There is however an aversion to redunant and incessant questioning.

The Prophet (saw) said: "What destroyed those [religious] communities before you was nothing but their excessive questioning and quarrelling with their prophets"


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Previously you confirmed pits, but refused to expand on that answer,

Wrong, I did not specify armpits at all. Please, for the umpteenth time, if you wanna understand the thread, and what's been said, go and actually read it. Don't be such an ignoramus in every post you make.

If you don't, please exit the thread, thank you very much for coming.

tallowood, the original topic is boring for freediver and mozza, they must move it to something that they see as shameful in Islam (even though it is clearly not) because they cannot speak about Islam without attacking, deriding, denigrating or snickering at it in some form or another.