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Message started by oceansblue on Aug 18th, 2007 at 3:56pm

Title: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by oceansblue on Aug 18th, 2007 at 3:56pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Indian_Ocean_earthquake

The Boxing Day Tsunamai of three yrs ago was a devastating disaster and happened relatively on our doorstep.


With Global warming having an effect on our seas this problem is bound to become a reality sooner rather than later.

Are we preparing to protect life and billions in exposed and vulnerable real estate on our coastlines? I doubt it.




Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by oceansblue on Aug 18th, 2007 at 4:02pm


so tranquil one moment --

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by oceansblue on Aug 18th, 2007 at 4:32pm



Tsunami Causes
Tsunami Characteristics


A tsunami can be generated by any disturbance that displaces a large mass of water, such as an earthquake, landslide or meteor impact.

Tsunamis can be generated when the sea floor abruptly deforms and vertically displaces the overlying water. Tectonic earthquakes are a particular kind of earthquake that are associated with the earth's crust deformation; when these earthquakes occur beneath the sea, the water above the deformed area is displaced from its equilibrium position. Waves are formed as the displaced water mass moves under the influence of gravity to regain its equilibrium. When large areas of the sea floor elevate or subside, a tsunami can be created. Large vertical movements of the earth's crust can occur at plate boundaries. Plates interact along these boundaries called "faults". Around the margins of the Pacific Ocean, for example, denser oceanic plates slip under continental plates in a process known as subduction. Subduction earthquakes are particularly effective in generating tsunamis.

Submarine landslides, which often accompany large earthquakes, as well as collapses of volcanic edifices, can also disturb the overlying water column as sediment and rock slump downslope and are redistributed across the sea floor. Similarly, a violent submarine volcanic eruption can uplift a water column and generate a tsunami.

Large landslides and cosmic-body impacts can disturb the water from above, as momentum from falling debris is transferred to the water into which the debris falls. Generally speaking, tsunamis generated from these mechanisms, unlike the Pacific-wide tsunamis caused by some earthquakes, dissipate quickly and rarely affect coastlines distant from the source area. However if the landslide or cosmic body is large enough, it will create a megatsunami. A megatsunami is a tsunami, usually caused by a collapsing island, asteroid impact, or huge chunks of ice falling into a large body of water, and is hundreds of meters high.


Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by freediver on Aug 18th, 2007 at 5:38pm
Some friends of mine was out fishing once near Hervey Bay. They had waded out to a sand bar and then crossed to the other side to fish. High tide had just passed so one of them put the esky next to the water's edge. After a while he turned around and the water was lapping at it, so he moved it back up. Soon the water was lapping at it again. By then the other guy had moved to the far end of the sand bar. He was called over and they made a hasty retreat back to the beach as the sandbar diappeared under the water. They told another bloke who was camping nearby what had happened. He said it was a small tsunami and that it had been all over the radio. On the way back they heard some official on the radio saying that they were well prepared and if it had been a seirous tsunami they would have been able to warn everyone in time. Not sure how you warn someone who is out fishing in the middle of nowhere.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by oceansblue on Aug 18th, 2007 at 7:26pm

freediver wrote on Aug 18th, 2007 at 5:38pm:
Some friends of mine was out fishing once near Hervey Bay. They had waded out to a sand bar and then crossed to the other side to fish. High tide had just passed so one of them put the esky next to the water's edge. After a while he turned around and the water was lapping at it, so he moved it back up. Soon the water was lapping at it again. By then the other guy had moved to the far end of the sand bar. He was called over and they made a hasty retreat back to the beach as the sandbar diappeared under the water. They told another bloke who was camping nearby what had happened. He said it was a small tsunami and that it had been all over the radio. On the way back they heard some official on the radio saying that they were well prepared and if it had been a seirous tsunami they would have been able to warn everyone in time. Not sure how you warn someone who is out fishing in the middle of nowhere.


This is quite scary FD..


So this means that Tsunamis occur more frequently than we imagine...

We are are fairly low lying country and I live on a point..sea either side of me..the thought has occurred to me that it could easily happen here..and when we get a king tide high winds and a full moon at the same time , it can get quite frightening..





Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by Aussie Nationalist on Aug 18th, 2007 at 7:51pm
There is evidence on the cliffs along the NSW coast of a large tsunami which struck about 20 years before cooks landing. The way the rocks are positioned testify to this and of Aboriginal stories of a giant wave.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by oceansblue on Aug 18th, 2007 at 8:17pm

wrote on Aug 18th, 2007 at 7:51pm:
There is evidence on the cliffs along the NSW coast of a large tsunami which struck about 20 years before cooks landing. The way the rocks are positioned testify to this and of Aboriginal stories of a giant wave.



would be fascinating to get more information on that.,maybe I can dig something up.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by freediver on Aug 18th, 2007 at 10:05pm
How does the position of rocks tell you how recently the last big wave was? How can you tell whether it rolled down from above, got pushed up from below, or got pushed up when sea levels were higher?

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by Aussie Nationalist on Aug 18th, 2007 at 10:47pm

freediver wrote on Aug 18th, 2007 at 10:05pm:
How does the position of rocks tell you how recently the last big wave was? How can you tell whether it rolled down from above, got pushed up from below, or got pushed up when sea levels were higher?


I saw it in a documentary a couple of years ago. They carbon dated ex-living material under these massive boulders and they were discovered to be about 250 years old.
The boulders were also heaped in a way not like standard erosion, but like they'd been moved together and piled in the same spot.
And freediver, do you have to debate everything!

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by oceansblue on Aug 18th, 2007 at 11:29pm

wrote on Aug 18th, 2007 at 10:47pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 18th, 2007 at 10:05pm:
How does the position of rocks tell you how recently the last big wave was? How can you tell whether it rolled down from above, got pushed up from below, or got pushed up when sea levels were higher?


I saw it in a documentary a couple of years ago. They carbon dated ex-living material under these massive boulders and they were discovered to be about 250 years old.
The boulders were also heaped in a way not like standard erosion, but like they'd been moved together and piled in the same spot.
And freediver, do you have to debate everything!


Im glad you went over that Aussie..Im curious too...very informative and its great how scientific findings can tell us so much...

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by oceansblue on Aug 18th, 2007 at 11:36pm
http://ro.uow.edu.au/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1035&context=scipapers

this link may be the event you were talking about AN.

"Cosmic Mega Tsunami in the Australian region:are they supported by Aboriginal and Maori legends?"

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by Aussie Nationalist on Aug 19th, 2007 at 12:07am
I cant read that oceans. i dont have the program.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by Aussie Nationalist on Aug 19th, 2007 at 12:21am
I found it. eat this freediver. ;)

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Asia-Tsunami/Haunted-by-the-coast-of-christmases-past-and-future/2004/12/31/1104344986721.html?from=moreStories

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by PoliticalMonkey on Oct 28th, 2007 at 10:41pm
Im scared of tsunamis! I hope global warming doesnt cause one!

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by IQSRLOW on Oct 28th, 2007 at 11:19pm

PoliticalMonkey wrote on Oct 28th, 2007 at 10:41pm:
Im scared of tsunamis! I hope global warming doesnt cause one!


GW will be responsible for tsunami's, ozone layer depletion, cancer increases, dead polar bears, equine flu, irritable bowel syndrome, increased flatulence, diabetes, emphysema and impotence.

Be afraid...be very afraid  :o  

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by Dude on Oct 28th, 2007 at 11:39pm

PoliticalMonkey wrote on Oct 28th, 2007 at 10:41pm:
Im scared of tsunamis! I hope global warming doesnt cause one!


The least of your worries mate. Imagine if a Huuuuuge 500,000 ton meteorite smashed into the pacific......

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by deepthought on Oct 29th, 2007 at 7:08am

wrote on Oct 28th, 2007 at 11:39pm:

PoliticalMonkey wrote on Oct 28th, 2007 at 10:41pm:
Im scared of tsunamis! I hope global warming doesnt cause one!


The least of your worries mate. Imagine if a Huuuuuge 500,000 ton meteorite smashed into the pacific......


Or a pea sized one smashing into your melon.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by Dude on Oct 29th, 2007 at 11:24am

deepthought wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 7:08am:

wrote on Oct 28th, 2007 at 11:39pm:

PoliticalMonkey wrote on Oct 28th, 2007 at 10:41pm:
Im scared of tsunamis! I hope global warming doesnt cause one!


The least of your worries mate. Imagine if a Huuuuuge 500,000 ton meteorite smashed into the pacific......


Or a pea sized one smashing into your melon.


Thats a terrifying possibility. Ever heard about the one the size of a golf ball smashing into the back of a lady's car in the U.S a bunch of years back? Such a small rock, so much damage. Car was a write off.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by deepthought on Oct 29th, 2007 at 6:10pm

wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 11:24am:

deepthought wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 7:08am:

wrote on Oct 28th, 2007 at 11:39pm:

PoliticalMonkey wrote on Oct 28th, 2007 at 10:41pm:
Im scared of tsunamis! I hope global warming doesnt cause one!


The least of your worries mate. Imagine if a Huuuuuge 500,000 ton meteorite smashed into the pacific......


Or a pea sized one smashing into your melon.


Thats a terrifying possibility. Ever heard about the one the size of a golf ball smashing into the back of a lady's car in the U.S a bunch of years back? Such a small rock, so much damage. Car was a write off.


No never heard of it but now I'm going to wear a helmet every where I go.  Just in case.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by jerrys_chillihole on Oct 29th, 2007 at 8:51pm
Just in case? good idea

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by Dude on Oct 29th, 2007 at 9:44pm

deepthought wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 6:10pm:
[quote author=Dude link=1187416590/15#17 date=1193621091]
No never heard of it but now I'm going to wear a helmet every where I go.  Just in case.


Better not Fly either. A commercial Jet was knocked out of the sky by a small meteor about 20 years back.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by deepthought on Oct 29th, 2007 at 9:47pm

wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 9:44pm:

deepthought wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 6:10pm:
[quote author=Dude link=1187416590/15#17 date=1193621091]
No never heard of it but now I'm going to wear a helmet every where I go.  Just in case.


Better not Fly either. A commercial Jet was knocked out of the sky by a small meteor about 20 years back.


Mate, you're freakin' me out.   You're a barrel of laughs aren't you.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by jerrys_chillihole on Oct 29th, 2007 at 9:56pm

wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 9:44pm:

deepthought wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 6:10pm:
[quote author=Dude link=1187416590/15#17 date=1193621091]
No never heard of it but now I'm going to wear a helmet every where I go.  Just in case.


Better not Fly either. A commercial Jet was knocked out of the sky by a small meteor about 20 years back.



Thats it Im not flyin again, a random meteor is just too risky lol

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by deepthought on Oct 30th, 2007 at 8:51pm

prometheus wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 9:56pm:

wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 9:44pm:

deepthought wrote on Oct 29th, 2007 at 6:10pm:
[quote author=Dude link=1187416590/15#17 date=1193621091]
No never heard of it but now I'm going to wear a helmet every where I go.  Just in case.


Better not Fly either. A commercial Jet was knocked out of the sky by a small meteor about 20 years back.



Thats it Im not flyin again, a random meteor is just too risky lol


You don't need to be flying to be hit on the bonce by one.  I suggest you stay indoors.

Title: Re: Tsunami..are we prepared?
Post by oceansblue on Oct 31st, 2007 at 5:45pm
As for tsunami

its possible with global warming and melting of ice caps that oceans levels and inevitably rise and unstable weather patterns will be problematic-
Hurricanes etc. Im not sure hurricanes will cause a tsunami however
:-?

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