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Message started by Armchair_Politician on Oct 17th, 2026 at 2:45pm

Title: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 17th, 2026 at 2:45pm
Great to see the leaders of the EU stepping up to help Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion, because Trump clearly won't help.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/16/europe/zelensky-brussels-trump-relationship-intl

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.



Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:46pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Source?

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:53pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Source?

Source for what?


Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:59pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:53pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:46pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Source?

Source for what?


Don't play cute with us, old boy. Stop hiding your source. Post it.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 17th, 2026 at 5:55pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 17th, 2026 at 6:16pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?


Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 17th, 2026 at 7:08pm

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?


Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.


We know what it's about, old boy. Every Western, democratic, Enlightened, superior, liber...

Oh, you know the word. Mette, Albo, Burnham, everyone - except your DL.

Except you. Funny how he makes you go all weak at the knees.

You'll eat it and you'll like it. You're a Vlad man now.

Yes, Master.

Title: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 17th, 2026 at 7:27pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 2:45pm:
Great to see the leaders of the EU stepping up to help Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion, because Trump clearly won't help.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/16/europe/zelensky-brussels-trump-relationship-intl


Zelya and his friends




Title: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 17th, 2026 at 7:59pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.




“I’ve caught a bear!”
“Well, bring it here!”
“It won’t come.”
“Then go over there yourself!”
“But it won’t let me!”




Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 17th, 2026 at 8:00pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 7:08pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?


Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.


We know what it's about, old boy. Every Western, democratic, Enlightened, superior, liber...

Oh, you know the word. Mette, Albo, Burnham, everyone - except your DL.

Except you. Funny how he makes you go all weak at the knees.

You'll eat it and you'll like it. You're a Vlad man now.

Yes, Master.

You are gesticulating and grimacing incoherenty, as always, geriatric homosexual fantasist.




Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 17th, 2026 at 9:08pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 2:45pm:
Great to see the leaders of the EU stepping up to help Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion, because Trump clearly won't help.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/16/europe/zelensky-brussels-trump-relationship-intl



more to the point, trump is aiding putin

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Marla on Oct 18th, 2026 at 1:02am

tallowood wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 7:27pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 2:45pm:
Great to see the leaders of the EU stepping up to help Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion, because Trump clearly won't help.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/16/europe/zelensky-brussels-trump-relationship-intl


Zelya and his friends




Awww, that's adorable. You're so retarded for a Zionist pig

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 18th, 2026 at 7:08am

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?


Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.


Are you suggesting that Ukraine just give up, let Russia keep the territory it has invaded and wait for the next time Putin invades? Would you accept your country being invaded and being told by Trump to suck it up?

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 18th, 2026 at 7:09am

tallowood wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 7:27pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 2:45pm:
Great to see the leaders of the EU stepping up to help Ukraine fight against the Russian invasion, because Trump clearly won't help.

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/10/16/europe/zelensky-brussels-trump-relationship-intl


Zelya and his friends



You really are a Russian troll/bot, aren’t you?

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 18th, 2026 at 10:31pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 18th, 2026 at 7:08am:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?


Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.


Are you suggesting that Ukraine just give up, let Russia keep the territory it has invaded and wait for the next time Putin invades? Would you accept your country being invaded and being told by Trump to suck it up?



Is that what you think I said, nutso?



Why not read what I posted before you rush out your mindless deranged monomania that you just repeat, repeat, repeat, no matter what is said or done.

Ukraine is not going to defeat Russia, no matter how much money or what weapons it is given.
NATO is not going to bomb Russia, as it bombed the Serbs, to liberate cknquered Ukrainian territory.

Russia is not going to conquer Ukraine. In 4 years it made very little headway, compared to the 4 years between 1941 and 1945 when it drove the Germans all the way go Berlin.

What does Russia want and what pruce is it willing to pay? What does Ukraine want and is willing to pay? NATO? The world?

They should stop kiling each other and start talking.
(*"Unless deep down it is about some unfathomable ancient hatred they have for each other and the senseless killing is what both actually want).

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 18th, 2026 at 11:11pm

Frank wrote on Oct 18th, 2026 at 10:31pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 18th, 2026 at 7:08am:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?


Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.


Are you suggesting that Ukraine just give up, let Russia keep the territory it has invaded and wait for the next time Putin invades? Would you accept your country being invaded and being told by Trump to suck it up?



Is that what you think I said, nutso?



Why not read what I posted before you rush out your mindless deranged monomania that you just repeat, repeat, repeat, no matter what is said or done.

Ukraine is not going to defeat Russia, no matter how much money or what weapons it is given.
NATO is not going to bomb Russia, as it bombed the Serbs, to liberate cknquered Ukrainian territory.

Russia is not going to conquer Ukraine. In 4 years it made very little headway, compared to the 4 years between 1941 and 1945 when it drove the Germans all the way go Berlin.

What does Russia want and what pruce is it willing to pay? What does Ukraine want and is willing to pay? NATO? The world?

They should stop kiling each other and start talking.
(*"Unless deep down it is about some unfathomable ancient hatred they have for each other and the senseless killing is what both actually want).


Check him out, Nutso.

That's a yes.

He's already said his DL should take Greenland, and that is, indeed, his very own country.

Yes, Master.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:19am

Frank wrote on Oct 18th, 2026 at 10:31pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 18th, 2026 at 7:08am:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 6:16pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 5:55pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 17th, 2026 at 4:25pm:
So where is this help going? what will be achieved?

Ukraine is not going to drive the Russians out of Eastern Ukraine (40% ethnic Russians, even higher is larger cities) or the Crimea (70% ethnic Russinas i the cities).

Russia, even if it conquers the whole of Ukraine, would have a captive people who would be more trouble  than benefit to Russia. The cost of rebuilding alone would make a complete conquest pointless. Russia cannot swallow OR spit out Ukraine now.

The Soviet Union was attacked by Germany in June 1941. By June 1945 the Red army was in Berlin. Russia has advanced what? 150kms into Ukraine in 4 years?

What the **** is going on over there??

Why would Ukraine flirt with becoming a NATO member, knowing how that that would be treated as a threat by Russia? What is the cause of this war and what do each want?

Why not stop the shooting and start talking? After all, they know each other better than anyone knows them.


The EU should work on cease fire, not the continuation of a pointless, idiotic war between virtually indistinguishable peoples. The Europeans are as useless as they were duing the Balkan wars which were also between virtually indistingushable poeples. European NATO without the Americans is a toothless, timid, shabby tiger in drag.


Ukraine is actually holding Russian forces in many places and even pushing them back in some. Most people are saying that it’s essentially a stalemate right now. The thing is that Ukrainian forces are inflicting massive amounts of casualties on Russian forces, so much so that they’re turning to conscripts and North Korean soldiers. It seems that Ukraine is more than holding their own against a much larger force. Good on them.

Yeah... and?


Russia is not conquering Ukraine.
Ukraine is not expelling Russia.

So now they are hitting each other over the head, as they have been for 4 years, without getting anywhere.
Stalemate - if has been a stalemate for most of the 4 years of this war. And it's not going anywhere else. Russia is too weak as is Ukraine. Nobody knows what this is about other than Slavic stupidity.


Are you suggesting that Ukraine just give up, let Russia keep the territory it has invaded and wait for the next time Putin invades? Would you accept your country being invaded and being told by Trump to suck it up?



Is that what you think I said, nutso?



Why not read what I posted before you rush out your mindless deranged monomania that you just repeat, repeat, repeat, no matter what is said or done.

Ukraine is not going to defeat Russia, no matter how much money or what weapons it is given.
NATO is not going to bomb Russia, as it bombed the Serbs, to liberate cknquered Ukrainian territory.

Russia is not going to conquer Ukraine. In 4 years it made very little headway, compared to the 4 years between 1941 and 1945 when it drove the Germans all the way go Berlin.

What does Russia want and what pruce is it willing to pay? What does Ukraine want and is willing to pay? NATO? The world?

They should stop kiling each other and start talking.
(*"Unless deep down it is about some unfathomable ancient hatred they have for each other and the senseless killing is what both actually want).


Zelensky has said he’s happy to discuss peace with Putin, if he stops the bombing. In fact, Zelensky has said this numerous times. Putin has so far refused. What’s Zelensky supposed to do? Stop bombing Russian troops and let Russia have free reign?

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:37am
russia attacked Ukraine

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:39am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:37am:
russia attacked Ukraine


According to Trump, Ukraine is to blame.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2026 at 7:12am

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:37am:
russia attacked Ukraine

Why?

For what reason?
To what purpose?

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Muriel on Oct 19th, 2026 at 7:43am

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 7:12am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:37am:
russia attacked Ukraine

Why?

For what reason?
To what purpose?



Tell us, Frank. And don't bother with the neo-Nazi regime narrative and propaganda used by the Russian government to justify its invasion.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:07am

Muriel wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 7:43am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 7:12am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:37am:
russia attacked Ukraine

Why?

For what reason?
To what purpose?



Tell us, Frank. And don't bother with the neo-Nazi regime narrative and propaganda used by the Russian government to justify its invasion.


You're rude, Muriel. The old boy doesn't address details.

Him just say-a what he's told. He's Vlad's man now.

Yes, Master.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 7:12am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:37am:
russia attacked Ukraine

Why?

For what reason?
To what purpose?


Putin claimed without evidence that the Ukrainian government was run by "neo-Nazis" and "drug addicts" who were illegitimate. He stated Russia's goal was to "denazify" and completely disarm the country. This is despite far-right parties hold zero seats in the Ukrainian parliament. He falsely claimed that the Ukrainian government was committing "bullying and genocide" against Russian-speaking citizens in the eastern Donbas region. It's worth noting that independent international monitors found absolutely no evidence of genocide in the Donbas. He stated the invasion was an act of self-defense to protect the breakaway Donetsk and Luhansk republics, which Russia recognized as independent right before the attack. In essays and speeches leading up to the war, Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.

So in other words, he doesn't think Ukraine has a right to exist and has given entirely fictional justification based on supposed Nazi ideology that's meant to be prevalent in the Ukrainian government in order to back up his reasons for his "special military operation". This is laughably ridiculous given the fact that Zelensky's family was heavily persecuted during WWII by the Nazi's due to their Jewish roots. Zelensky himself is Jewish. What Putin really wants is to overthrow the Ukrainian democratic government, and re-establish Russian (think Soviet) control over former Soviet territories.

Title: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:50am
Zelensky shares REAL values with leaders in EU  ;D




Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:03am

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:50am:
Zelensky shares REAL values with leaders in EU  ;D



So you've got nothing, just pointless memes and full stops?

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:08am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:03am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:50am:
Zelensky shares REAL values with leaders in EU  ;D



So you've got nothing, just pointless memes and full stops?


So you've got nothing, just smelly poo in your head.




Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:25am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 7:12am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:37am:
russia attacked Ukraine

Why?

For what reason?
To what purpose?


Putin claimed without evidence that the Ukrainian government was run by "neo-Nazis" and "drug addicts" who were illegitimate. He stated Russia's goal was to "denazify" and completely disarm the country. This is despite far-right parties hold zero seats in the Ukrainian parliament. He falsely claimed that the Ukrainian government was committing "bullying and genocide" against Russian-speaking citizens in the eastern Donbas region. It's worth noting that independent international monitors found absolutely no evidence of genocide in the Donbas. He stated the invasion was an act of self-defense to protect the breakaway Donetsk and Luhansk republics, which Russia recognized as independent right before the attack. In essays and speeches leading up to the war, Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.

So in other words, he doesn't think Ukraine has a right to exist and has given entirely fictional justification based on supposed Nazi ideology that's meant to be prevalent in the Ukrainian government in order to back up his reasons for his "special military operation". This is laughably ridiculous given the fact that Zelensky's family was heavily persecuted during WWII by the Nazi's due to their Jewish roots. Zelensky himself is Jewish. What Putin really wants is to overthrow the Ukrainian democratic government, and re-establish Russian (think Soviet) control over former Soviet territories.


Did you catch that, old boy? No?

Sorry, Armchair, can you say this a little slower?

He's from Balogney.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:33am

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:50am:
Zelensky shares REAL values with leaders in EU  ;D







Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

Democracy. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:33am

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Title: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:38am
Yes dictator Vlad Zelensky ever so toosh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so2KTN0F6i8


Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:51am

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Bomb to submission? No one ever bombs anybody to submission, you silly old thing, you should know that by now. Milosevic was ultimately brought down by international law.

Ukraine isn't having any luck bombing Vlad into submission either, but boy, he's giving it a jolly good go. The only thing that will stop this one is a NATO-backed guarantee, which your DL refuses to entertain.

And we all know why.

Yes, Master.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:52am

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:51am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Bomb to submission? No one ever bombs anybody to submission, you silly old thing, you should know that by now. Milosevic was ultimately brought down by international law.

Ukraine isn't having any luck bombing Vlad into submission either, but boy, he's giving it a jolly good go. The only thing that will stop this one is a NATO-backed guarantee, which your DL refuses to entertain.

And we all know why.

Yes, Master.


Trump has learned that the hard way with Iran, or has he? I still think he's in denial about how effective his choices regarding Iran have been. He still seems to think (or at least says publicly) that Iran doesn't control the Strait of Hormuz and that it is open for ships. The truth is, it isn't.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:53am

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Have you got an answer, Frank?



"So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know."

Title: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:00am
Vlad Zelensky learned to do hands up  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-Ys6XHH4VA


Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:09am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Have you got an answer, Frank?



"So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know."


I do not believe that this war came out of the blue.

I do not think either that one side is entirely innocent and the other is entirely responsible.

I think the Russians, as Bismarck observed, will respond to anything with unexpected stupidity. They are Serbs in that regard. I don't think Ukrainians are distinguishable from Russians.

Expanding NATO into what was the Warsaw pact was provocative but those nations were really not Russian/Soviet so there was an understandable desire to be protected from the ex-Soviet Union. Flirting with Ukraine joining NATO was a leap too far.

Ukraine treats it's various minorities badly. The Russian Ukrainian animosity is mystery to me as I don't think of them as different people. They evidently do. They are indistinguishable in their corruption and self- mythologising.  Why they can't talk to each other is, to me, a sign of unfathomable stupidity on both sides.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:15am

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Have you got an answer, Frank?



"So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know."


I do not believe that this war came out of the blue.

I do not think either that one side is entirely innocent and the other is entirely responsible.

I think the Russians, as Bismarck observed, will respond to anything with unexpected stupidity. They are Serbs in that regard. I don't think Ukrainians are distinguishable from Russians.

Expanding NATO into what was the Warsaw pact was provocative but those nations were really not Russian/Soviet so there was an understandable desire to be protected from the ex-Soviet Union. Flirting with Ukraine joining NATO was a leap too far.

Ukraine treats it's various minorities badly. The Russian Ukrainian animosity is mystery to me as I don't think of them as different people. They evidently do. They are indistinguishable in their corruption and self- mythologising.  Why they can't talk to each other is, to me, a sign of unfathomable stupidity on both sides.


First of all, NATO is a defensive alliance. It doesn't go around invading other countries, and never has. The same cannot be said of Russia, especially under Putin. So the excuse that NATO expansion is reason for Russia to invade Ukraine is absolute nonsense and just plain stupid. Second, you didn't answer my question. What would you have done on the day Putin ordered his forces to invade Ukraine? Would you have ordered Ukrainian forces to fight, or surrender?

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:16am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know.


The jury's in. The old boy wants Zalensky to cede the eastern territories to give Vlad a deeper foothold to creep into Europe.

He wants us to take Vlad at his word, call the whole thing off and give DL a Nobel prize. The next prez will be stuck with Vlad's invasion of the Baltics, which never would have happened if DL was prez, oh no, never ever.

DEEP STATE !!!

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:20am

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know.


The jury's in. The old boy wants Zalensky to cede the eastern territories to give Vlad a deeper foothold to creep into Europe.

He wants us to take Vlad at his word, call the whole thing off and give DL a Nobel prize. The next prez will be stuck with Vlad's invasion of the Baltics, which never would have happened if DL was prez, oh no, never ever.

DEEP STATE !!!


Gotta love how the orange felon is bagging Zelensky for not making a deal with Putin. I thought we were all lead to believe that Trump is a master deal maker and the war would end in 24 hours? Why is he asking Zelensky to make a deal?

Title: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:24am
The REAL Reason Europe Destroyed Itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hot3fPpGrPU

Stupidity of degenerated Euro political elites.

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:42am

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:24am:
The REAL Reason Europe Destroyed Itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hot3fPpGrPU

Stupidity of degenerated Euro political elites.


Well, you've definitely got the monopoly on stupid.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:43am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:20am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know.


The jury's in. The old boy wants Zalensky to cede the eastern territories to give Vlad a deeper foothold to creep into Europe.

He wants us to take Vlad at his word, call the whole thing off and give DL a Nobel prize. The next prez will be stuck with Vlad's invasion of the Baltics, which never would have happened if DL was prez, oh no, never ever.

DEEP STATE !!!


Gotta love how the orange felon is bagging Zelensky for not making a deal with Putin. I thought we were all lead to believe that Trump is a master deal maker and the war would end in 24 hours? Why is he asking Zelensky to make a deal?


Not sure. Zalensky agreed to his no-bombing deal until DL turned Starlink off and Vlad got to work bombing power stations, a supermarket and kindergarten.

Cunning, no?

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:47am

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:42am:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:24am:
The REAL Reason Europe Destroyed Itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hot3fPpGrPU

Stupidity of degenerated Euro political elites.


Well, you've definitely got the monopoly on stupid.


You are the stupid one because your head is filled with poo  ::)


Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:50am

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:43am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:20am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know.


The jury's in. The old boy wants Zalensky to cede the eastern territories to give Vlad a deeper foothold to creep into Europe.

He wants us to take Vlad at his word, call the whole thing off and give DL a Nobel prize. The next prez will be stuck with Vlad's invasion of the Baltics, which never would have happened if DL was prez, oh no, never ever.

DEEP STATE !!!


Gotta love how the orange felon is bagging Zelensky for not making a deal with Putin. I thought we were all lead to believe that Trump is a master deal maker and the war would end in 24 hours? Why is he asking Zelensky to make a deal?


Not sure. Zalensky agreed to his no-bombing deal until DL turned Starlink off and Vlad got to work bombing power stations, a supermarket and kindergarten.

Cunning, no?


In the three days following Trump's unilateral announcement of a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia on targeting energy facilities, Putin struck Ukrainian energy facilities 76 times and killed 11 civilians. During that time, Zelensky didn't once strike a Russian energy facility even though he was never told of any ceasefire agreement because none existed except in Trump's depraved mind. So now Zelensky has had enough and resumed strikes on Russian energy infrastructure, as he should. Trump really shows what a dumbass he is when he says Zelensky doesn't want the war to end. Such a stupid thing to say. Of course he wants it to end and he has said as much over and over again. If he didn't, then why was he the only one to observe Trump's imaginary energy ceasefire?

Title: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:54am
Europe's Mass-Psychosis Getting WORSE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llSgrF8h9AU


Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:29pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:50am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:43am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:20am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:16am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:33am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know.


The jury's in. The old boy wants Zalensky to cede the eastern territories to give Vlad a deeper foothold to creep into Europe.

He wants us to take Vlad at his word, call the whole thing off and give DL a Nobel prize. The next prez will be stuck with Vlad's invasion of the Baltics, which never would have happened if DL was prez, oh no, never ever.

DEEP STATE !!!


Gotta love how the orange felon is bagging Zelensky for not making a deal with Putin. I thought we were all lead to believe that Trump is a master deal maker and the war would end in 24 hours? Why is he asking Zelensky to make a deal?


Not sure. Zalensky agreed to his no-bombing deal until DL turned Starlink off and Vlad got to work bombing power stations, a supermarket and kindergarten.

Cunning, no?


In the three days following Trump's unilateral announcement of a ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia on targeting energy facilities, Putin struck Ukrainian energy facilities 76 times and killed 11 civilians. During that time, Zelensky didn't once strike a Russian energy facility even though he was never told of any ceasefire agreement because none existed except in Trump's depraved mind. So now Zelensky has had enough and resumed strikes on Russian energy infrastructure, as he should. Trump really shows what a dumbass he is when he says Zelensky doesn't want the war to end. Such a stupid thing to say. Of course he wants it to end and he has said as much over and over again. If he didn't, then why was he the only one to observe Trump's imaginary energy ceasefire?


What a loser, eh? DL has a call with Vlad, promises him a win, and has Starlink switched off to give Vlad as many civilian casualties as he can get.

He then tells Zalensky not to blow up any Russian oil plants. Don't you dare, DL says. He's concocted a ceasefire with Vlad.

Now, Congress is onto it, the GOP is up in arms and US voters are smelling a rat. They're finally wising up to what DL's been on about the whole time.

The Moscow hotel room, the meetings in Trump Tower, Manafort, Mike Flynn, Roger Stone, the whole hysteria over Russia Russia Russia.

So now we know. Right there, in the White House, is the Manchurian candidate we've suspected all along. DL's actually doing what he was paid to do.

And the old boy? The same guy who wants Greenland handed over?

Yes, Master.

Title: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:32pm
Europe Can't Win a War With Russia — British Commodore Explains

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3sZg4gcnb0&t=8s


Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:35pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Have you got an answer, Frank?



"So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know."


I do not believe that this war came out of the blue.

I do not think either that one side is entirely innocent and the other is entirely responsible.

I think the Russians, as Bismarck observed, will respond to anything with unexpected stupidity. They are Serbs in that regard. I don't think Ukrainians are distinguishable from Russians.

Expanding NATO into what was the Warsaw pact was provocative but those nations were really not Russian/Soviet so there was an understandable desire to be protected from the ex-Soviet Union. Flirting with Ukraine joining NATO was a leap too far.

Ukraine treats it's various minorities badly. The Russian Ukrainian animosity is mystery to me as I don't think of them as different people. They evidently do. They are indistinguishable in their corruption and self- mythologising.  Why they can't talk to each other is, to me, a sign of unfathomable stupidity on both sides.


First of all, NATO is a defensive alliance. It doesn't go around invading other countries, and never has. The same cannot be said of Russia, especially under Putin. So the excuse that NATO expansion is reason for Russia to invade Ukraine is absolute nonsense and just plain stupid. Second, you didn't answer my question. What would you have done on the day Putin ordered his forces to invade Ukraine? Would you have ordered Ukrainian forces to fight, or surrender?

NATO bombed the Serbs even though no NATO country was attacked by any of the Yugo belligerents.

As to the second question, Ukraine did not act alone, not up to that day, not since. So who else is involved? Who was encouraging Ukraine to ignore its own history and location?

I certainly would not have flirted with NATO membership. Especially not when dealing with Russia, a stupid and corrupt country with imperial ambitions, knowing that my country, Ukraine, is a match for corruption and stupidity even if not for imperial ambitions ( although with a strong bent for 'Ukranification' of the people within its historically dodgy borders.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:46pm

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Have you got an answer, Frank?



"So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know."


I do not believe that this war came out of the blue.

I do not think either that one side is entirely innocent and the other is entirely responsible.

I think the Russians, as Bismarck observed, will respond to anything with unexpected stupidity. They are Serbs in that regard. I don't think Ukrainians are distinguishable from Russians.

Expanding NATO into what was the Warsaw pact was provocative but those nations were really not Russian/Soviet so there was an understandable desire to be protected from the ex-Soviet Union. Flirting with Ukraine joining NATO was a leap too far.

Ukraine treats it's various minorities badly. The Russian Ukrainian animosity is mystery to me as I don't think of them as different people. They evidently do. They are indistinguishable in their corruption and self- mythologising.  Why they can't talk to each other is, to me, a sign of unfathomable stupidity on both sides.


First of all, NATO is a defensive alliance. It doesn't go around invading other countries, and never has. The same cannot be said of Russia, especially under Putin. So the excuse that NATO expansion is reason for Russia to invade Ukraine is absolute nonsense and just plain stupid. Second, you didn't answer my question. What would you have done on the day Putin ordered his forces to invade Ukraine? Would you have ordered Ukrainian forces to fight, or surrender?

NATO bombed the Serbs even though no NATO country was attacked by any of the Yugo belligerents.

As to the second question, Ukraine did not act alone, not up to that day, not since. So who else is involved? Who was encouraging Ukraine to ignore its own history and location?

I certainly would not have flirted with NATO membership. Especially not when dealing with Russia, a stupid and corrupt country with imperial ambitions, knowing that my country, Ukraine, is a match for corruption and stupidity even if not for imperial ambitions ( although with a strong bent for 'Ukranification' of the people within its historically dodgy borders.


Hey Armchair, he'll be chortling about Ukraine's borders during the reign of Catherine the Great next.

You're in good company here, Tallow.

Bots will be bots, no?

Title: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:49pm
Russia is Crushing Ukraine's Capacity to Fight
Iuliia Mendel used to work for Zelensky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpSG7k984g

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Armchair_Politician on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:11pm

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Have you got an answer, Frank?



"So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know."


I do not believe that this war came out of the blue.

I do not think either that one side is entirely innocent and the other is entirely responsible.

I think the Russians, as Bismarck observed, will respond to anything with unexpected stupidity. They are Serbs in that regard. I don't think Ukrainians are distinguishable from Russians.

Expanding NATO into what was the Warsaw pact was provocative but those nations were really not Russian/Soviet so there was an understandable desire to be protected from the ex-Soviet Union. Flirting with Ukraine joining NATO was a leap too far.

Ukraine treats it's various minorities badly. The Russian Ukrainian animosity is mystery to me as I don't think of them as different people. They evidently do. They are indistinguishable in their corruption and self- mythologising.  Why they can't talk to each other is, to me, a sign of unfathomable stupidity on both sides.


First of all, NATO is a defensive alliance. It doesn't go around invading other countries, and never has. The same cannot be said of Russia, especially under Putin. So the excuse that NATO expansion is reason for Russia to invade Ukraine is absolute nonsense and just plain stupid. Second, you didn't answer my question. What would you have done on the day Putin ordered his forces to invade Ukraine? Would you have ordered Ukrainian forces to fight, or surrender?

NATO bombed the Serbs even though no NATO country was attacked by any of the Yugo belligerents.

As to the second question, Ukraine did not act alone, not up to that day, not since. So who else is involved? Who was encouraging Ukraine to ignore its own history and location?

I certainly would not have flirted with NATO membership. Especially not when dealing with Russia, a stupid and corrupt country with imperial ambitions, knowing that my country, Ukraine, is a match for corruption and stupidity even if not for imperial ambitions ( although with a strong bent for 'Ukranification' of the people within its historically dodgy borders.


Once again, you're twisting history to try to make it conform with your point of view. NATO got involved in the Bosnian War to stop mass atrocities, enforce United Nations (UN) resolutions, and bring about a peace settlement. NATO's role was to enforce UN sanctions and embargos, establish and enforce a no-fly zone to stop aircraft bombing ground targets, and protect UN safe areas. So it wasn't a case of NATO going and doing it's own thing - it got involved specifically at the request of the UN Security Council from a series of UN resolutions to stop Serbian ethnic cleansing.

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:21pm

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:49pm:
Russia is Crushing Ukraine's Capacity to Fight
Iuliia Mendel used to work for Zelensky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpSG7k984g


Not sure how you can say that when the casualty ratio's about 1:7 in Ukraine's favour.

The only crushing Vlad's doing is civilian targets: power stations, schools, hospitals. These are war crimes of epic proportions, totally not cricket, but that's okay.

You've been joined by our very own old boy, who's now trying to play they're all as bad as each other.

The old boy's actually trying harder than you, dear. Even you know Vlad's just having a laugh.

He?


Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:38pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:11pm:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:35pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:15am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 11:09am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:53am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:35am:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:29am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:32am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:
Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.


And how is that idea going to be overcome by arms?
The Serbs have much the same idea about Kosovo and were bombed into submission ( but the idea never wdnt away).

Who is going to bomb Russia into submission? Germany? Francistan? Engladesh?


Arms?

[b]Democracy[/b :-/]. 99% of Kosovans voted for independence. Genocides tend to do that.

I know I know, so unfair. The Serbs are still bitching about it. What's worse is Kosovo's on track to join the EU.

That gets Vlad ever so toosh, as you'd imagine. That's why you're posting us his lines, no?

Always absolutely never ever.

Soooo... Who's going to bomb Russia into submission a la Serbia, lying paki?

You forgot to say? Why play tooshy homosexual instead? ( Don't need to answer. To ask was to answer)


Have you got an answer, Frank?



"So what would you have done? Imagine for a moment that you're the President of Ukraine on the day Putin's forces invade your country. What do you do? Seriously, I would really like to know."


I do not believe that this war came out of the blue.

I do not think either that one side is entirely innocent and the other is entirely responsible.

I think the Russians, as Bismarck observed, will respond to anything with unexpected stupidity. They are Serbs in that regard. I don't think Ukrainians are distinguishable from Russians.

Expanding NATO into what was the Warsaw pact was provocative but those nations were really not Russian/Soviet so there was an understandable desire to be protected from the ex-Soviet Union. Flirting with Ukraine joining NATO was a leap too far.

Ukraine treats it's various minorities badly. The Russian Ukrainian animosity is mystery to me as I don't think of them as different people. They evidently do. They are indistinguishable in their corruption and self- mythologising.  Why they can't talk to each other is, to me, a sign of unfathomable stupidity on both sides.


First of all, NATO is a defensive alliance. It doesn't go around invading other countries, and never has. The same cannot be said of Russia, especially under Putin. So the excuse that NATO expansion is reason for Russia to invade Ukraine is absolute nonsense and just plain stupid. Second, you didn't answer my question. What would you have done on the day Putin ordered his forces to invade Ukraine? Would you have ordered Ukrainian forces to fight, or surrender?

NATO bombed the Serbs even though no NATO country was attacked by any of the Yugo belligerents.

As to the second question, Ukraine did not act alone, not up to that day, not since. So who else is involved? Who was encouraging Ukraine to ignore its own history and location?

I certainly would not have flirted with NATO membership. Especially not when dealing with Russia, a stupid and corrupt country with imperial ambitions, knowing that my country, Ukraine, is a match for corruption and stupidity even if not for imperial ambitions ( although with a strong bent for 'Ukranification' of the people within its historically dodgy borders.


Once again, you're twisting history to try to make it conform with your point of view. NATO got involved in the Bosnian War to stop mass atrocities, enforce United Nations (UN) resolutions, and bring about a peace settlement. NATO's role was to enforce UN sanctions and embargos, establish and enforce a no-fly zone to stop aircraft bombing ground targets, and protect UN safe areas. So it wasn't a case of NATO going and doing it's own thing - it got involved specifically at the request of the UN Security Council from a series of UN resolutions to stop Serbian ethnic cleansing.


Oh, he's twisting alright. He'll say whatever he's told.

We stand for sovereign borders, territorial integrity, the rule of law and peace - we must have peace.

The old boy stands for his DL, who promised to be a dictator, but only on Day One.

Vlad told him to pull his head in, so he complied.

Yes, Master.

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:55pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:21pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:49pm:
Russia is Crushing Ukraine's Capacity to Fight
Iuliia Mendel used to work for Zelensky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpSG7k984g

Not sure how you can say that when the casualty ratio's about 1:7 in Ukraine's favour.
The only crushing Vlad's doing is civilian targets: power stations, schools, hospitals. These are war crimes of epic proportions, totally not cricket, but that's okay.
You've been joined by our very own old boy, who's now trying to play they're all as bad as each other.
The old boy's actually trying harder than you, dear. Even you know Vlad's just having a laugh.
He?


Iuliia Mendel says that and she knows better than Karnal on the stick whose head filled with poo from fake news media because Julia was dictator Zelensky press secretary and adviser.



Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Setanta on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:17pm
Iuliia Mendel

Daniel L. Davis

Afghanistan whistleblower turned Putin apologist mainstreams Russian excuses for invading Ukraine

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:24pm

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:21pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:49pm:
Russia is Crushing Ukraine's Capacity to Fight
Iuliia Mendel used to work for Zelensky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpSG7k984g

Not sure how you can say that when the casualty ratio's about 1:7 in Ukraine's favour.
The only crushing Vlad's doing is civilian targets: power stations, schools, hospitals. These are war crimes of epic proportions, totally not cricket, but that's okay.
You've been joined by our very own old boy, who's now trying to play they're all as bad as each other.
The old boy's actually trying harder than you, dear. Even you know Vlad's just having a laugh.
He?


Iuliia Mendel says that and she knows better than Karnal on the stick whose head filled with poo from fake news media because Julia was dictator Zelensky press secretary and adviser.


Iulia would say that, now wouldn't she? She's now working for Vlad.

Iulia's been bitching about Zalensky on Tucker. And we all know who's side he's on, ja?


Quote:
The former secretary was also invited to speak at a Sept. 16 sideline event at the invitation of Germany's far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), she said on Sept. 8.

Members of the party have previously criticized military support for Ukraine and financial support for Ukrainian refugees.

Mendel faced backlash online for her choice to participate in the event.

"(Y)ou agreed to speak about 'peace' at an AfD-organized event, a party that opposes military aid to Ukraine while Russia is waging the war. Am I right?" Ukrainian brand Saint Javelin wrote, replying to Mendel on X.


No answer.

Oh look, Iulia's gone.

Yes, Master.

Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:54pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:11pm:
Once again, you're twisting history to try to make it conform with your point of view. NATO got involved in the Bosnian War to stop mass atrocities, enforce United Nations (UN) resolutions, and bring about a peace settlement. NATO's role was to enforce UN sanctions and embargos, establish and enforce a no-fly zone to stop aircraft bombing ground targets, and protect UN safe areas. So it wasn't a case of NATO going and doing it's own thing - it got involved specifically at the request of the UN Security Council from a series of UN resolutions to stop Serbian ethnic cleansing.


Not at all.

The Europeans and the UN were totally useless. The Srebrenica massacre occured while UN peacekeepers looked on.
It was the US and UK who finally had enough and expressly bypassed the UN and its Security Council, and brought the Serbs to heel. It was mainly US ( the vast majority, over 60%), UK and French planes, European NATO contribution being not getting in the way and kveching about actual decisive action (which is what they usually have been doing).

And so to Russia. The US is not going to bomb Russia. Will Engladesh or Francistan or Germanüye?  Poland?
France and Germany have invaded Russia and were driven out. France and Britain tried to liberate the Crimea in the 1850s and failed. Whose turn is it to arse-kick the Russians?

Maybe look at the map.There is no subjugation of Russia. It is vast and has nukes. It has more experience in enduring hardship inflicted from outside than any Eutopean country, as well as vastly greater experience in inflicting it on its own people and montering and dehumanising them. Ukraine ditto.



Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:57pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:24pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:21pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:49pm:
Russia is Crushing Ukraine's Capacity to Fight
Iuliia Mendel used to work for Zelensky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpSG7k984g

Not sure how you can say that when the casualty ratio's about 1:7 in Ukraine's favour.
The only crushing Vlad's doing is civilian targets: power stations, schools, hospitals. These are war crimes of epic proportions, totally not cricket, but that's okay.
You've been joined by our very own old boy, who's now trying to play they're all as bad as each other.
The old boy's actually trying harder than you, dear. Even you know Vlad's just having a laugh.
He?


Iuliia Mendel says that and she knows better than Karnal on the stick whose head filled with poo from fake news media because Julia was dictator Zelensky press secretary and adviser.


Iulia would say that, now wouldn't she? She's now working for Vlad.

Iulia's been bitching about Zalensky on Tucker. And we all know who's side he's on, ja?


Quote:
The former secretary was also invited to speak at a Sept. 16 sideline event at the invitation of Germany's far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), she said on Sept. 8.

Members of the party have previously criticized military support for Ukraine and financial support for Ukrainian refugees.

Mendel faced backlash online for her choice to participate in the event.

"(Y)ou agreed to speak about 'peace' at an AfD-organized event, a party that opposes military aid to Ukraine while Russia is waging the war. Am I right?" Ukrainian brand Saint Javelin wrote, replying to Mendel on X.


No answer.

Oh look, Iulia's gone.

Yes, Master.


Julia was working for dictator Vlad Zelensky while Karnal the stick holder just blagging on the stick so she knows and Karnal does not.

Simple, is it not  ;D



Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Sprintcyclist on Oct 19th, 2026 at 3:08pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:17am:

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 7:12am:

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 6:37am:
russia attacked Ukraine

Why?

For what reason?
To what purpose?


Putin claimed without evidence that the Ukrainian government was run by "neo-Nazis" and "drug addicts" who were illegitimate. He stated Russia's goal was to "denazify" and completely disarm the country. This is despite far-right parties hold zero seats in the Ukrainian parliament. He falsely claimed that the Ukrainian government was committing "bullying and genocide" against Russian-speaking citizens in the eastern Donbas region. It's worth noting that independent international monitors found absolutely no evidence of genocide in the Donbas. He stated the invasion was an act of self-defense to protect the breakaway Donetsk and Luhansk republics, which Russia recognized as independent right before the attack. In essays and speeches leading up to the war, Putin openly questioned Ukraine’s right to exist as an independent state. He argued that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people" and claimed that modern Ukraine was an "artificial state" created entirely on historical Russian lands.

So in other words, he doesn't think Ukraine has a right to exist and has given entirely fictional justification based on supposed Nazi ideology that's meant to be prevalent in the Ukrainian government in order to back up his reasons for his "special military operation". This is laughably ridiculous given the fact that Zelensky's family was heavily persecuted during WWII by the Nazi's due to their Jewish roots. Zelensky himself is Jewish. What Putin really wants is to overthrow the Ukrainian democratic government, and re-establish Russian (think Soviet) control over former Soviet territories.


not that any reason would be accepted by an american cult following conspiracy theory rapist voter

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 3:16pm

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:57pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:24pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:21pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:49pm:
Russia is Crushing Ukraine's Capacity to Fight
Iuliia Mendel used to work for Zelensky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpSG7k984g

Not sure how you can say that when the casualty ratio's about 1:7 in Ukraine's favour.
The only crushing Vlad's doing is civilian targets: power stations, schools, hospitals. These are war crimes of epic proportions, totally not cricket, but that's okay.
You've been joined by our very own old boy, who's now trying to play they're all as bad as each other.
The old boy's actually trying harder than you, dear. Even you know Vlad's just having a laugh.
He?


Iuliia Mendel says that and she knows better than Karnal on the stick whose head filled with poo from fake news media because Julia was dictator Zelensky press secretary and adviser.


Iulia would say that, now wouldn't she? She's now working for Vlad.

Iulia's been bitching about Zalensky on Tucker. And we all know who's side he's on, ja?


Quote:
The former secretary was also invited to speak at a Sept. 16 sideline event at the invitation of Germany's far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), she said on Sept. 8.

Members of the party have previously criticized military support for Ukraine and financial support for Ukrainian refugees.

Mendel faced backlash online for her choice to participate in the event.

"(Y)ou agreed to speak about 'peace' at an AfD-organized event, a party that opposes military aid to Ukraine while Russia is waging the war. Am I right?" Ukrainian brand Saint Javelin wrote, replying to Mendel on X.


No answer.

Oh look, Iulia's gone.

Yes, Master.


Julia was working for dictator Vlad Zelensky while Karnal the stick holder just blagging on the stick so she knows and Karnal does not.

Simple, is it not  ;D


It most certainly is. Iulia, Tucker and your DL have all received funds at one time or another from Vlad.

You not so much. You volunteer your services gratis.

Do you have any other sources you'd like us to check out, Tallow?

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by tallowood on Oct 19th, 2026 at 3:28pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 3:16pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:57pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:24pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:21pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:49pm:
Russia is Crushing Ukraine's Capacity to Fight
Iuliia Mendel used to work for Zelensky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpSG7k984g

Not sure how you can say that when the casualty ratio's about 1:7 in Ukraine's favour.
The only crushing Vlad's doing is civilian targets: power stations, schools, hospitals. These are war crimes of epic proportions, totally not cricket, but that's okay.
You've been joined by our very own old boy, who's now trying to play they're all as bad as each other.
The old boy's actually trying harder than you, dear. Even you know Vlad's just having a laugh.
He?


Iuliia Mendel says that and she knows better than Karnal on the stick whose head filled with poo from fake news media because Julia was dictator Zelensky press secretary and adviser.


Iulia would say that, now wouldn't she? She's now working for Vlad.

Iulia's been bitching about Zalensky on Tucker. And we all know who's side he's on, ja?


Quote:
The former secretary was also invited to speak at a Sept. 16 sideline event at the invitation of Germany's far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), she said on Sept. 8.

Members of the party have previously criticized military support for Ukraine and financial support for Ukrainian refugees.

Mendel faced backlash online for her choice to participate in the event.

"(Y)ou agreed to speak about 'peace' at an AfD-organized event, a party that opposes military aid to Ukraine while Russia is waging the war. Am I right?" Ukrainian brand Saint Javelin wrote, replying to Mendel on X.


No answer.

Oh look, Iulia's gone.

Yes, Master.


Julia was working for dictator Vlad Zelensky while Karnal the stick holder just blagging on the stick so she knows and Karnal does not.

Simple, is it not  ;D


It most certainly is. Iulia, Tucker and your DL have all received funds at one time or another from Vlad.

You not so much. You volunteer your services gratis.

Do you have any other sources you'd like us to check out, Tallow?


knowledgeable and intelligent people

Karnal, I would like you to go to Ukraine and see for yourself instead of blindly believe bs from fake news media.






Title: Re: Zelensky praises REAL leaders in EU
Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:16pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 3:08pm:
not that any reason would be accepted by an american cult following conspiracy theory rapist voter

Behold the entire intellectual heft of the TDS mongs.
Step forward, Snivelling Simp.

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:24pm

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 3:28pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 3:16pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:57pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 2:24pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:55pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 1:21pm:

tallowood wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 12:49pm:
Russia is Crushing Ukraine's Capacity to Fight
Iuliia Mendel used to work for Zelensky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpSG7k984g

Not sure how you can say that when the casualty ratio's about 1:7 in Ukraine's favour.
The only crushing Vlad's doing is civilian targets: power stations, schools, hospitals. These are war crimes of epic proportions, totally not cricket, but that's okay.
You've been joined by our very own old boy, who's now trying to play they're all as bad as each other.
The old boy's actually trying harder than you, dear. Even you know Vlad's just having a laugh.
He?


Iuliia Mendel says that and she knows better than Karnal on the stick whose head filled with poo from fake news media because Julia was dictator Zelensky press secretary and adviser.


Iulia would say that, now wouldn't she? She's now working for Vlad.

Iulia's been bitching about Zalensky on Tucker. And we all know who's side he's on, ja?


Quote:
The former secretary was also invited to speak at a Sept. 16 sideline event at the invitation of Germany's far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD), she said on Sept. 8.

Members of the party have previously criticized military support for Ukraine and financial support for Ukrainian refugees.

Mendel faced backlash online for her choice to participate in the event.

"(Y)ou agreed to speak about 'peace' at an AfD-organized event, a party that opposes military aid to Ukraine while Russia is waging the war. Am I right?" Ukrainian brand Saint Javelin wrote, replying to Mendel on X.


No answer.

Oh look, Iulia's gone.

Yes, Master.


Julia was working for dictator Vlad Zelensky while Karnal the stick holder just blagging on the stick so she knows and Karnal does not.

Simple, is it not  ;D


It most certainly is. Iulia, Tucker and your DL have all received funds at one time or another from Vlad.

You not so much. You volunteer your services gratis.

Do you have any other sources you'd like us to check out, Tallow?


knowledgeable and intelligent people

Karnal, I would like you to go to Ukraine and see for yourself instead of blindly believe bs from fake news media.


But of course. You'd like to see one of Vlad's drones up my bottom, now wouldn't you?

Alas, the last thing you want is for the members here to see things for themselves, Tallow.

Your entire existence is Russian disinformation. You're here to shut down all reality.

If you had your way, you'd shut down all debate entirely.

Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Frank on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:42pm

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:24pm:
one of Vlad's drones up my bottom.



Your only interest, poof.

Drones, anything really,  up yer Khyber.
It must be a veritable bowerbird's nest by now, with all the knicknacks youve been shovin up ya.

Dont tell us how it feels.




Title: Re: Another pointless bs thread
Post by Enquiring mind on Oct 19th, 2026 at 10:04pm

Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 9:42pm:

Enquiring mind wrote on Oct 19th, 2026 at 8:24pm:
one of Vlad's drones up my bottom.



Your only interest, poof.

Drones, anything really,  up yer Khyber.
It must be a veritable bowerbird's nest by now, with all the knicknacks youve been shovin up ya.

Dont tell us how it feels.


Moi?

I'm not so sure Tallow wants to know how we feel, dear boy.

We do have history with his previous socks, after all.

You?

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