Australia has supplied AUD$1.6 billion in military aid to Ukraine since 2022. The new Greens leader, David Shoebridge, will fight to end this military aid.


Opinions. Should the Australia governments slash their massive spending, so to reign in inflation and lower pressure on hikes in interest. Considering the covid splurge debt is about to be rolled over into higher interest rates federally, and at state level.

Hard time ahead.

I have a few relatives in the Ukraine. I don't want the country obliterated by Russia.

Hung Uncut Black Muslim Jew wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 9:57am:

Australia has supplied AUD$1.6 billion in military aid to Ukraine since 2022.

Wow. $400k a year. How many Greens politicians does that pay for their "service"? ;D ;D ;D

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 10:44am:

I have a few relatives in the Ukraine. I don't want the country obliterated by Russia.

Nobody does. The amount Australia is giving to promote that particular warfare will not change the outcome.

There is a lesson there though. Ukraine gave up their weapons on a promise that the US and the UK will protect them. Crimea was taken from her ... US and UK looked the other way.

Australia is setting herself up for a similar outcome. US and UK can not be trusted.

lee wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 1:00pm:

Hung Uncut Black Muslim Jew wrote on Oct 3rd, 2026 at 9:57am: Australia has supplied AUD$1.6 billion in military aid to Ukraine since 2022. Wow. $400k a year. How many Greens politicians does that pay for their "service"? ;D ;D ;D

Obviously Lee's talking to himself again.

Hung Uncut Black Muslim Jew wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 1:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 3rd, 2026 at 10:44am: I have a few relatives in the Ukraine. I don't want the country obliterated by Russia. Nobody does. The amount Australia is giving to promote that particular warfare will not change the outcome. There is a lesson there though. Ukraine gave up their weapons on a promise that the US and the UK will protect them. Crimea was taken from her ... US and UK looked the other way. Australia is setting herself up for a similar outcome. US and UK can not be trusted.

Scenario: if the NLP Right were in power here. We could trust Trump and even get some trade concessions.  While the Lefty anti-Trump ALP are in. Trump isn't interested.
Same with Great Britain 🇬🇧. 
If the Right were in power again. We could rely on them. Unlike the Left currently in, which is bowing to the E.U. like a subordinate to France.

Your mistake in your Post shows that you really don't understand the difference between the United Kingdom & Great Britain and what they stand for.
The United Kingdom is for Royalty 👑- Master of Ceremony aka Music & Entertainment.
Great Britain is for Politics, Military, etc.

Hung Uncut Black Muslim Jew wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 1:38pm:

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 3rd, 2026 at 10:44am: I have a few relatives in the Ukraine. I don't want the country obliterated by Russia. Nobody does. The amount Australia is giving to promote that particular warfare will not change the outcome. There is a lesson there though. Ukraine gave up their weapons on a promise that the US and the UK will protect them. Crimea was taken from her ... US and UK looked the other way. Australia is setting herself up for a similar outcome. US and UK can not be trusted.

Can I count on you to consider that Australia has always been on its own in terms of its defence? From what I have heard from people in the military from both Britain and America, they would do what they can to help alleviate a threat to Australia. However, we are on our own during a direct conflict with a foreign power.

Ukraine 🇺🇦  was always dead in the water.
It has had to sponge, scab and bludge for handouts from lots of other nations.

All because they poked the Russian bear like Cuba 🇨🇺  did on the USA doorstep.
Mr dress in black Rock n' Roll Media celebrity Zelensky bit off more than he could chew.
Even now, those that are serving Ukraine are posting clips that its a losing battle as Ukraine spirals into future massive debt and exploitation by the E.U. if they come out of it with what they have left to call Ukraine.

UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 2:31pm:

Hung Uncut Black Muslim Jew wrote on Oct 3rd, 2026 at 1:38pm: UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 3rd, 2026 at 10:44am: I have a few relatives in the Ukraine. I don't want the country obliterated by Russia. Nobody does. The amount Australia is giving to promote that particular warfare will not change the outcome. There is a lesson there though. Ukraine gave up their weapons on a promise that the US and the UK will protect them. Crimea was taken from her ... US and UK looked the other way. Australia is setting herself up for a similar outcome. US and UK can not be trusted. Can I count on you to consider that Australia has always been on its own in terms of its defence? From what I have heard from people in the military from both Britain and America, they would do what they can to help alleviate a threat to Australia. However, we are on our own during a direct conflict with a foreign power.

Australia is at greater risk aligning with US and Britain.

AUD$4 billion PWR3+ nuclear reactors. Critics argue the Dreadnought-class submarine program using PWR3 reactors is plagued by excessive costs and delays.  The project was reported to be five years behind schedule

AUD$4 billion. Australia has agreed to sequentially acquire three used U.S. Virginia-class nuclear submarines starting in 2032, a shift from the original plan to receive active-duty vessels. On condition the US produce over 3 a year. The yanks are currently producing 1.1 per year. So that cash is gone for nothing.

Secret billions for public housing for up to 1000 American military, while the Labor government ignores the homeless ranks growing.

Billions for two ports to host foreign nuclear subs.

A fraction of this could have been invested into research and development for tech such as drones and unmanned underwater vehicles.

Independence, decrease Australia as a target, while building stronger and stronger so to defend ourselves.

Helping to protect Ukraine against the viscious Russian invasion is the right thing to do.

The greens normally pride themselves on doing the right thing. Apparently this new leader is confirming himself to be a jerk.

The right thing is not using Australia's taxes to supply weapons to any warfare, except in preparation to defend Australia's in case of invasion.

It's hypocritical to oppose supplying weapons for one cinema of war i.e Israel's genocides, while supporting others.

Labor's silence and support for Israel's genocidal warmongering is shameful.

It's time for Australia to be independent, and withdraw from outdated pacts when other's in those pacts are warmongers and bullies.

What a damn shame Ukraine is -
there are plenty of resources in Russia and plenty in Ukraine -
enough that everyone could be happy with what they've got -
instead we have a destructive war.


Same in the Middle East -
Iran has plenty of resources just like Saudi Arabia but
they are destroying each other for no net gain -
when they were all on a good wicket - they could all prosper.

War is the most stupid thing that humans ever do.

There is money and spoils in war.  Countries make money out of misery by creating demand for weapons and provoking their uses. Then there are resources to be stolen from the losers, and earnings from the contracts for the rebuilds

Until the economic model backing war is dismantled, war will persist ... until the weapons wipe everyone off the face of the planet. AI could be that weapon.

Doing the same thing over, expecting a different result, hasn't worked for Australia. Time to go down a new Greens path.

Hung Uncut Black Muslim Jew wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2026 at 7:38pm:

The right thing is not using Australia's taxes to supply weapons to any warfare, except in preparation to defend Australia's in case of invasion. It's hypocritical to oppose supplying weapons for one cinema of war i.e Israel's genocides, while supporting others. Labor's silence and support for Israel's genocidal warmongering is shameful. It's time for Australia to be independent, and withdraw from outdated pacts when other's in those pacts are warmongers and bullies.

Historically agressive countries like Russia do not stop till someone makes them. Gifting them what they want today will just make it harder later.


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Labor's silence and support for Israel's genocidal warmongering is shameful.

True. Same as the Liberals.

Then we should ban Russian oil derivatives from our petrol stations, from the trucks that carry our food etc. Every Australian is indirectly funding Russia's warmongering at the moment.

Food, energy, debt payments, everything will sky rocket when we do, for the Ukrainians.

How many here are really willing to defend Ukraine with their wallets.

russian blood oil is still flowing into Australia, and imports from one Asian supplier are surging

https://afuo.org.au/russian-blood-oil-is-still-flowing-into-australia-and-imports-from-one-asian-supplier-are-surging/


( Yes the Coailtion and ON are also )