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Message started by tallowood on Aug 28th, 2026 at 2:37pm

Title: CIA in Moscow mistery
Post by tallowood on Aug 28th, 2026 at 2:37pm

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CIA Director John Ratcliffe made an unannounced, secretive visit to Moscow on August 25, 2026.

No official explanation was given


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaJpx6FuPg4


Title: Re: CIA in Moscow istery
Post by Jasin on Aug 28th, 2026 at 2:43pm
Australia will be the new USSR in the future.
The promised land for Slavic Europeans.
But it will succeed where Russia failed with the USSR.

N.America is for Celtic Western Europeans.
Oceania is for Latin Southern Europeans.
Sahul-Australia is for Slavic Eastern Europeans.
The Skandi Northern Europeans get slops on Europe.

Title: Re: CIA in Moscow mistery
Post by tallowood on Aug 28th, 2026 at 3:17pm
Some speculation from ex CIA analyst Larry Jonson: "that maybe it was to pick up some US bodies, it's possible CIA officers have been killed in the course of Russia's strikes in Ukraine".


Title: Re: CIA in Moscow mistery
Post by tallowood on Aug 28th, 2026 at 4:30pm
I got onto a Russian AI. So here is translation:


Quote:
AI OSINT.

The facts are minimal for now. An American C-17 has arrived at Vnukovo. The purpose of the visit has not been officially disclosed. If Ratcliffe is indeed on board, it's not "just to talk." The CIA director doesn't fly to Moscow for diplomatic tea.

The main point of the visit is a closed discussion about the larger escalation matrix. Ukraine is the top layer. Iran is a possible second layer. And the real topic could be a nexus: Ukraine + Iran + oil + sanctions + risk of direct conflict.

Everything is clear regarding Ukraine. Negotiations are stalled. Moscow demands that the "realities on the ground" be taken into account. Washington is trying to understand whether there is even a window for a ceasefire, a pause, or at least a managed freeze. This requires not a press release, but a closed channel where one can verify what is rhetoric and what is the real position.

But the Iranian version is no weaker than it appears.

Iran is not a localized Middle East crisis right now. These include the nuclear program, the Strait of Hormuz, oil, sanctions, China, Israel, US domestic politics, and the risk of a major regional war. Russia isn't a neutral intermediary, but it does have a stable channel to Tehran.

So why Moscow?

First. Check who's really making decisions in Iran. Diplomats may say one thing, security officials another. The CIA needs to understand whether Tehran has a real negotiating center.

Second. Send a signal through Moscow: if Iran escalates further, the consequences will be serious. And Russia must understand where the American red line lies.

Third. Try to untie the Ukraine-Iran knot. Not in a crude "you give us Iran, we give you Ukraine" way. That doesn't work. Rather, something more subtle: the US may want Russia not to strengthen Iran, not to help circumvent sanctions, and not to push the Strait of Hormuz toward an explosion. Russia may want the US to ease pressure on Ukraine, limit strikes on Russian infrastructure, and recognize it as a mandatory participant in any major security deal.

Fourth. Oil. If Hormuz starts burning in earnest, it's no longer diplomacy. It's about gas prices, inflation, tanker insurance, elections, and the risk of drawing in allies.

For the White House, this may be more urgent than Ukraine.

The probabilities are as follows:
Ukraine + escalation management – ​​about 35%.
Iran as a separate, closed issue – about 25%.
Iran and Ukraine as a package deal – about 20%.
Exchanges and the humanitarian track – about 10%.
Other – about 10%.

Key: the CIA director's visit isn't about a final agreement. It's about a reality check. Is it even possible to negotiate anything on the other side? Who speaks for the top official? Where are the real red lines? What would constitute crossing the line?

What to watch next:
Will there be Russian contact with Iran after Moscow?
Will statements be made not about Ukraine, but about Hormuz, the nuclear program, or "regional security"?
Will there be new secondary sanctions against entities linked to Iran?
Will a new US-Iran channel emerge through Oman, Qatar, or Pakistan?
Will there be hints of a pause in strikes against Russian infrastructure?

In short: this may not be a "pro-Ukraine" visit. And it's not a "pro-Iran" visit. This is a visit to prevent the US from simultaneously getting Ukraine, Iran, an oil crisis, and a new sanctions war with Russia and China.

Title: Re: CIA in Moscow mistery
Post by Paki gob on a stick on Aug 31st, 2026 at 11:38am
Oh, I don't know, Tallow. The Russians have other ideas:


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Vladimir Vasiliev, a senior researcher at the Institute for US and Canadian Studies, offers another hypothesis: Ratcliffe may have acted as Trump’s trusted courier, carrying a message the White House did not want to send through conventional diplomatic channels.


https://www.rt.com/russia/644787-cia-chief-moscow-russian-media/amp/

This, of course, is ludicrous. If DL wanted to talk turkey, he'd send Jarad and Steve Whitkoff.

DL would never trust the CIA to do a deal his family and golf buddy could fix. This one has all the signs of a rogue CIA director.

DEEP STATE !!!


Title: Re: CIA in Moscow mistery
Post by tallowood on Aug 31st, 2026 at 12:36pm

Quote:
Ratcliffe may have acted as Trump’s trusted courier, carrying a message the White House did not want to send through conventional diplomatic channels.



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The Boeing C-17 Globemaster III is a large, heavy-lift military transport aircraft


Why C17 was used if it was only a message to be delivered?

Title: Re: CIA in Moscow mistery
Post by Jasin on Aug 31st, 2026 at 12:43pm
Im going for the Spy and prisoner swap along with the usual signed paperworks needed every year

Title: Re: CIA in Moscow mistery
Post by tallowood on Aug 31st, 2026 at 1:39pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 31st, 2026 at 12:43pm:
Im going for the Spy and prisoner swap along with the usual signed paperworks needed every year


Highly likely.

Also, Sergei Naryshkin, the head of Russia's SVR foreign ​intelligence service, said that he had held a "working-level meeting" with John Ratcliffe, which means operational rather then strategical level.

Few days before the meeting Maria Zaharova from Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs  issued a warning to UK that UK military installations  may be attacked in response to British killing Russia civilians and Russian ambassador to UK was recalled, so Ratcliffe may be was assessing probability of that threat on behalf of Brits.

Title: Re: CIA in Moscow mistery
Post by Jasin on Aug 31st, 2026 at 2:05pm
You know the Leftists on here would call this Russian Collusion again.  ;D

Title: Re: CIA in Moscow mistery
Post by tallowood on Aug 31st, 2026 at 2:11pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 31st, 2026 at 2:05pm:
You know the Leftists on here would call this Russian Collusion again.  ;D


C17 full of dollars from https://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1788009753?  :o

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